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Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Fred Sanford ()
Date: July 20, 2014 05:27PM

Gets called out by Polifact.

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2014/jul/20/barbara-comstock/barbara-comstock-said-millions-virginians-lost-ins/

Barbara, gone are the days where a politician can just make crap up. You should have known better. But hey, you raised money for Scooter Libby's defense fund, so your judgement is already questionable, at best.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Silvie fro Waldorf ()
Date: July 20, 2014 05:34PM

Cant wait for her "interviews" om WMAL's Morons on the Mall, with switch hitter Larry. She better be careful. Go on those shows and you make the news, though usually not in a good way.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Jess Sayin ()
Date: July 20, 2014 05:35PM

Ummm, doesn't really support your case very well.

The only error was what was a relatively simple mistake of stating Virginians versus Americans. Which her campaign acknowledged was a mistake and and corrected. As Politifact notes her point about Americans is in fact true.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Frank Luntz ()
Date: July 20, 2014 05:52PM

Jess Sayin Wrote:
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> Ummm, doesn't really support your case very well.
>
> The only error was what was a relatively simple
> mistake of stating Virginians versus Americans.
> Which her campaign acknowledged was a mistake and
> and corrected. As Politifact notes her point
> about Americans is in fact true.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

"No one could say exactly how many policies were cancelled, but media reports estimated the number was at least 4 million. The embarrassed White House offered a fix that allowed many of the disqualified plans to exist for another year. Some people were moved to a different plan by their insurance companies or got coverage on state exchanges created by the health care law."

They didn't "lose" health insurance, as Barbara stated. Certain plans were discontinued because they didn't meet the standards of the new law (including the new mental health parity enacted before the ACA). Options for other plans, or other systems, were offered to all.


Just Barbara playing with words.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Jess Sayin ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:07PM

Frank Luntz Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Jess Sayin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ummm, doesn't really support your case very
> well.
> >
> > The only error was what was a relatively simple
> > mistake of stating Virginians versus Americans.
>
> > Which her campaign acknowledged was a mistake
> and
> > and corrected. As Politifact notes her point
> > about Americans is in fact true.
>
> Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
>
> "No one could say exactly how many policies were
> cancelled, but media reports estimated the number
> was at least 4 million. The embarrassed White
> House offered a fix that allowed many of the
> disqualified plans to exist for another year. Some
> people were moved to a different plan by their
> insurance companies or got coverage on state
> exchanges created by the health care law."
>
> They didn't "lose" health insurance, as Barbara
> stated. Certain plans were discontinued because
> they didn't meet the standards of the new law
> (including the new mental health parity enacted
> before the ACA). Options for other plans, or
> other systems, were offered to all.
>
>
> Just Barbara playing with words.


If they had their policy cancelled (as I did by Aetna), then they did lose their insurance. Because they could pick up more in most cases more expensive coverage (as I had to), doesn't change the fact that they did lose their coverage.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Barbara's boy ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:12PM

Do ya'll remember Barbara's son Seth Comstock? He was the guy behind the Dina Ahmad and Sherrif Ahmad posts that blew up into viral threads. Welp, he apoarently moved to Eugene and started a "clothing company".
Barbara should be very proud! Lol
http://youtu.be/TaxS9U8hzOw

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Fred Sanford ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:21PM

Jess Sayin Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Frank Luntz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jess Sayin Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ummm, doesn't really support your case very
> > well.
> > >
> > > The only error was what was a relatively
> simple
> > > mistake of stating Virginians versus
> Americans.
> >
> > > Which her campaign acknowledged was a mistake
> > and
> > > and corrected. As Politifact notes her point
> > > about Americans is in fact true.
> >
> > Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
> >
> > "No one could say exactly how many policies
> were
> > cancelled, but media reports estimated the
> number
> > was at least 4 million. The embarrassed White
> > House offered a fix that allowed many of the
> > disqualified plans to exist for another year.
> Some
> > people were moved to a different plan by their
> > insurance companies or got coverage on state
> > exchanges created by the health care law."
> >
> > They didn't "lose" health insurance, as Barbara
> > stated. Certain plans were discontinued
> because
> > they didn't meet the standards of the new law
> > (including the new mental health parity enacted
> > before the ACA). Options for other plans, or
> > other systems, were offered to all.
> >
> >
> > Just Barbara playing with words.
>
>
> If they had their policy cancelled (as I did by
> Aetna), then they did lose their insurance.
> Because they could pick up more in most cases more
> expensive coverage (as I had to), doesn't change
> the fact that they did lose their coverage.


Policies were discontinued, they didn't "lose" coverage. The newer more costly plans were to comply mostly with the mental health parity made law before the ACA.

You must have had a really low level of health insurance, but now you have mental health coverage, so you be happy about that.

If B

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Tom Hilfiger ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:28PM

Hey brotha, your shirts are the shiznit!
...sike!

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: word games ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:30PM

Fred Sanford is correct. Nobody "lost" coverage. The affordable plans were just taken from people due to the ACA.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Brian, you fool ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:36PM

Jess Sayin Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Frank Luntz Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jess Sayin Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ummm, doesn't really support your case very
> > well.
> > >
> > > The only error was what was a relatively
> simple
> > > mistake of stating Virginians versus
> Americans.
> >
> > > Which her campaign acknowledged was a mistake
> > and
> > > and corrected. As Politifact notes her point
> > > about Americans is in fact true.
> >
> > Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
> >
> > "No one could say exactly how many policies
> were
> > cancelled, but media reports estimated the
> number
> > was at least 4 million. The embarrassed White
> > House offered a fix that allowed many of the
> > disqualified plans to exist for another year.
> Some
> > people were moved to a different plan by their
> > insurance companies or got coverage on state
> > exchanges created by the health care law."
> >
> > They didn't "lose" health insurance, as Barbara
> > stated. Certain plans were discontinued
> because
> > they didn't meet the standards of the new law
> > (including the new mental health parity enacted. Options for other plans, or
> > other systems, were offered to all.
> >
> >
> > Just Barbara playing with words.
>
>
> If they had their policy cancelled (as I did by
> Aetna), then they did lose their insurance.
> Because they could pick up more in most cases more
> expensive coverage (as I had to), doesn't change
> the fact that they did lose their coverage.


Policies were cancelled, people didn't "lose" health insurance. The newer, sometimes pricier, policies offered were compliant with the new standards, including the new mental health parity enacted before the ACA. If Barbara can't seem to distinguish "real cause," and if she plays political word games with the then "effect," then, we will have another Marsha Blackburn on our hands.


We don't need another misinformation shill in the house.

I am not sure you know this tidbit, but with your new plan, you have expanded mental health coverage. You should be happy about that.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: get the facts straight ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:44PM

Policies were cancelled that suited the needs of the people purchasing them. In many cases, they were quite affordable. The government required that these policies be changed--thus, making them unaffordable.
You may think that covering birth control for free is important. When you are a sixty year old man--not so much.

You may think that the government knows better than the citizens. You forget that the government is the citizens. The ACA was very unpopular when it was passed--and it is still unpopular.

Fact: Obama promised that people could keep their policies.
Fact: He lied.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Jess Sayin ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:54PM

Brian, you fool Wrote:
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>
> Policies were cancelled, people didn't "lose"
> health insurance. The newer, sometimes pricier,
> policies offered were compliant with the new
> standards, including the new mental health parity
> enacted before the ACA. If Barbara can't seem to
> distinguish "real cause," and if she plays
> political word games with the then "effect," then,
> we will have another Marsha Blackburn on our
> hands.
>
>
> We don't need another misinformation shill in the
> house.
>
> I am not sure you know this tidbit, but with your
> new plan, you have expanded mental health
> coverage. You should be happy about that.


My policy was cancelled. I did lose coverage. Because I had to buy another policy at a higher cost, which I didn't want, doesn't change that my policy was cancelled.

I don't need or care about mental health coverage. I don't need or care about maternity coverage. I don't want the deductible and out-of-pocket costs structured in the way that they are. My previous policy made more sense for my circumstances. It was better in terms of monthly premium, deductible, out-of-pocket, and access to doctor than what I ended up with now at a higher cost. Which is the case for many other self-employed people who aren't the beneficiaries of subsidies and credits provided to the low end.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: johnny ringo ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:57PM

A self-employed business partner of mine lost coverage. His policy was canceled. He had to signed up for an Obamacare plan. Turned out nearly none of the doctors he was seeing under his old plan took the plan he had under Obamacare.

So don't fucking lie and say that no one lost coverage.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Just the Fax ()
Date: July 20, 2014 07:06PM

All that really matters is that Democrats elected a community organizer, country disorganizer to the White House. Of course, he's failed miserably.

2014 will be a Republican wave election. Then we can begin to repair the damage done during the Obama (and Bush) years.

We have a lot of work to do.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Frank Luntz ()
Date: July 20, 2014 08:18PM

I stand corrected.

Of the 8,000,000 or so people living in Virginia only 850,000 Virginians were notified their plans were discontinued. That's barely just over 10% of Virginians.

And President Obama allowed many of them them to keep their current insurance for one more year to get past the mid-term elections.

The total number of people who lost insurance nationwide under Obamacare is about 4,000,000. That would be half of Virginia. Comstock's website clearly had a typo, which was corrected.

Many people don't look at large numbers with reason. They see "millions" as big and "ten percent" as small. Can't fix that. Sorry.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Stupid Redneck Goobers ()
Date: July 20, 2014 10:13PM

If only republicans weren't so God damn stupid, they might be able to see past their own stupidity.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Hateful Liberal Idiots ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:47AM

If only democrats weren't so insanely mad and paranoid, maybe they could have accomplished something useful during their years in power. Sad.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Algore ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:49AM

Democrats: Still promising all that free stuff. Though most people realize it will never happen.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: John Foust ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:50AM

Here is a list of my initiatives and accomplishments during my many years collecting public dollars:

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: The Voice of Reason ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:54AM

Barbara Comstock has a 99% chance of winning this election (says the Washington Post).

That's why Democrats who know nothing about John Foust are throwing mud and bringing in millions of out-of-state dollars. They have little else to do in an election which will not change the balance of power in the House.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Wait a Sec ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:56AM

Frank Luntz Wrote:
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>
> Of the 8,000,000 or so people living in Virginia
> only 850,000 Virginians were notified their plans
> were discontinued. That's barely just over 10% of
> Virginians.
>

How do those 850,000 Virginians relate to the 400,000 promised McAuliffe Medicaid?

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Sendthebill ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:59AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc

"It was the most memorable time of my life. It was a touching moment because I never thought this day would ever happen. I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage. You know, if I help him, he's gonna help me."

Just send the bill to BHO, ya' know.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Vera Baker ()
Date: July 21, 2014 01:30AM

It's nice in Martinique, but you're right about the Democrats being mad all the time. It starts at the top. Just google me if you want to know more.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Peggy Joseph ()
Date: July 21, 2014 01:36AM

Vera Baker Wrote:
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> It's nice in Martinique, but you're right about
> the Democrats being mad all the time. It starts at
> the top. Just google me if you want to know more.


I hear ya, sista. Democrats, Republicans, Greenies, independents — all of us! We must STOP falling victim to these slick politicians or to emotions or to political ads! Those things are all meant to trick you, to lull you into a false sense that this guy or girl is here to take care of you. That government can solve your problems. IT CAN’T!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/15/humphries-feel-good-story-peggy-joseph/#ixzz384v2PSwE

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: July 21, 2014 06:34AM

She likes raising money for neo con traitors whom out CIA Agents as revenge for their opposition to a costly wrong war based on lies and deception.

Scooter Libby and Dick Cheney type criminals are where her loyalties lie.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Honestly ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:51AM

Comstock will oppose a president who willfully and systematically ignores the rule of law, the Constitution, and his oath of office. Foust would be an administration sycophant.

Comstock will oppose economic and regulatory policies that hamstring the economy and hurt the middle class. Foust would be an administration sycophant.

Comstock will oppose Democratic high tax policies. Democrats in Fairfax just brought back a proposal for a meals tax that would have taken $90 million (primarily) from local residents in just the first year. Airline security tax just doubled today. That alone will take $35 billion out of the pockets of flyers over the next decade.

Comstock will oppose an administration that has willfully left our border unprotected and allowed waves of illegal immigrants to pour into the country. Democrats and Republicans in local communities are currently rebelling against the demands this uncontrolled immigration is having on their communities.

Comstock will oppose the least transparent administration in American history, one that stonewalls investigations and routinely releases policy announcements late on Friday afternoons so that they receive little coverage in the media.

Comstock will oppose an administration that can't even approve the Keystone pipeline even though its own State Department has determined that it will be a net plus for the global environment.

Comstock will oppose a president who went to fundraisers the night of the Benghazi attacks, who just went to fundraisers in TX but refused to take the opportunity to visit the border where thousands are crossing every week, who went to more fundraisers upon receiving news that Ukrainian separatists had just shot down a passenger liner over Europe.

Comstock will oppose a president who says that there was not a smidge of corruption at the IRS at the same time that a political supporter was supposedly investigating the corruption. If it's being investigated by the administration, how can the person in charge know the answer?

Nova has had six years of a sycophantic Democratic congressman in Washington and has seen how pathetic that can be. Thankfully this election will bring much needed change to a very corrupt Washington.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:53AM

We don't need any more do nothing corrupt obstructionist assholes in Congress. We need people that will get things done not long for the days of the disastrous Bush Administration.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Should Ignore Gerry ()
Date: July 21, 2014 03:10PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> We don't need any more do nothing corrupt
> obstructionist assholes in Congress. We need
> people that will get things done not long for the
> days of the disastrous Bush Administration.

Recognizing that it's best to ignore your idiot postings....

Democrats controlled both houses and the presidency for two years. Could do anything they wanted. Look what we got. What you mimic as "obstructionist" is the will of the people to prevent more Obama/Reid damage.

Almost the entire population of the country is screaming to stop illegal immigration.

Foreign policy is in shambles, thanks Hillary.

It's time for change. Real change. Change that puts American interests first.

John Foust is running on Obama/Connolly ideals. That's bad.

Barbara Comstock is running on what's best for her district, as espoused by the people. That's good.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: UR Crazy ()
Date: July 21, 2014 03:25PM

Honestly Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Comstock will oppose a president who willfully and
> systematically ignores the rule of law, the
> Constitution, and his oath of office. Foust would
> be an administration sycophant.
>
> Comstock will oppose economic and regulatory
> policies that hamstring the economy and hurt the
> middle class. Foust would be an administration
> sycophant.
>
> Comstock will oppose Democratic high tax policies.
> Democrats in Fairfax just brought back a proposal
> for a meals tax that would have taken $90 million
> (primarily) from local residents in just the first
> year. Airline security tax just doubled today.
> That alone will take $35 billion out of the
> pockets of flyers over the next decade.
>
> Comstock will oppose an administration that has
> willfully left our border unprotected and allowed
> waves of illegal immigrants to pour into the
> country. Democrats and Republicans in local
> communities are currently rebelling against the
> demands this uncontrolled immigration is having on
> their communities.
>
> Comstock will oppose the least transparent
> administration in American history, one that
> stonewalls investigations and routinely releases
> policy announcements late on Friday afternoons so
> that they receive little coverage in the media.
>
> Comstock will oppose an administration that can't
> even approve the Keystone pipeline even though its
> own State Department has determined that it will
> be a net plus for the global environment.
>
> Comstock will oppose a president who went to
> fundraisers the night of the Benghazi attacks, who
> just went to fundraisers in TX but refused to take
> the opportunity to visit the border where
> thousands are crossing every week, who went to
> more fundraisers upon receiving news that
> Ukrainian separatists had just shot down a
> passenger liner over Europe.
>
> Comstock will oppose a president who says that
> there was not a smidge of corruption at the IRS at
> the same time that a political supporter was
> supposedly investigating the corruption. If it's
> being investigated by the administration, how can
> the person in charge know the answer?
>
> Nova has had six years of a sycophantic Democratic
> congressman in Washington and has seen how
> pathetic that can be. Thankfully this election
> will bring much needed change to a very corrupt
> Washington.


So, in other words, Benghazi!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: not quite.... ()
Date: July 21, 2014 03:33PM

UR Crazy Wrote:
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> So, in other words, Benghazi!!!!!!!!!


No. I'm not so certain Mrs. Comstock would allow an ambassador to get murdered then try to blame it on a video nobody watched. That takes a certain level of incompetence....

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: EPI ()
Date: July 21, 2014 03:58PM

Honestly Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Comstock will oppose a president who willfully and
> systematically ignores the rule of law, the
> Constitution, and his oath of office. Foust would
> be an administration sycophant.
>
> Comstock will oppose economic and regulatory
> policies that hamstring the economy and hurt the
> middle class. Foust would be an administration
> sycophant.
>
> Comstock will oppose Democratic high tax policies.
> Democrats in Fairfax just brought back a proposal
> for a meals tax that would have taken $90 million
> (primarily) from local residents in just the first
> year. Airline security tax just doubled today.
> That alone will take $35 billion out of the
> pockets of flyers over the next decade.
>
> Comstock will oppose an administration that has
> willfully left our border unprotected and allowed
> waves of illegal immigrants to pour into the
> country. Democrats and Republicans in local
> communities are currently rebelling against the
> demands this uncontrolled immigration is having on
> their communities.
>
> Comstock will oppose the least transparent
> administration in American history, one that
> stonewalls investigations and routinely releases
> policy announcements late on Friday afternoons so
> that they receive little coverage in the media.
>
> Comstock will oppose an administration that can't
> even approve the Keystone pipeline even though its
> own State Department has determined that it will
> be a net plus for the global environment.
>
> Comstock will oppose a president who went to
> fundraisers the night of the Benghazi attacks, who
> just went to fundraisers in TX but refused to take
> the opportunity to visit the border where
> thousands are crossing every week, who went to
> more fundraisers upon receiving news that
> Ukrainian separatists had just shot down a
> passenger liner over Europe.
>
> Comstock will oppose a president who says that
> there was not a smidge of corruption at the IRS at
> the same time that a political supporter was
> supposedly investigating the corruption. If it's
> being investigated by the administration, how can
> the person in charge know the answer?
>
> Nova has had six years of a sycophantic Democratic
> congressman in Washington and has seen how
> pathetic that can be. Thankfully this election
> will bring much needed change to a very corrupt
> Washington.

Stop watching Fox News. Lawrence Mishell from the Economic Policy Institute said, “If lower taxes and less regulation was such good policy, then George W. Bush’s economy would have been a lot better. But under Bush, Republicans cut taxes on business and on investors and high-income people, and they didn’t add many regulations, and that business cycle was the first one in the postwar period where the income for a typical working-class family was lower at the end than at the beginning.”

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: No Foust ()
Date: July 21, 2014 04:22PM

Anyone would be better than Foust. The problem with the Dems is that their socialism and big nanny-state govt is headed too close to a dictatorship in which obamaheads primary concern is excusing his failures, corruption, and flaunting of laws.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: need a few corrections ()
Date: July 21, 2014 04:25PM

EPI Wrote:
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> Stop watching Fox News. Lawrence Mishell from the
> Economic Policy Institute said, “If lower taxes
> and less regulation was such good policy, then
> George W. Bush’s economy would have been a lot
> better. But under Bush, Republicans cut taxes on
> business and on investors and high-income people,
> and they didn’t add many regulations, and that
> business cycle was the first one in the postwar
> period where the income for a typical
> working-class family was lower at the end than at
> the beginning.”

First, EPI is a shill for big labor unions.

Second, Bush was a big regulator. The Bush team spent more taxpayer money on issuing and enforcing regulations than any previous administration in U.S. history. Between fiscal year 2001 and fiscal year 2009, outlays on regulatory activities, adjusted for inflation, increased from $26.4 billion to an estimated $42.7 billion, or 62 percent.

Third, you are full of shit.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: July 21, 2014 04:36PM

That's all Republicans have to offer, more Benghazi, whatever that means.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Oh, there's more ()
Date: July 21, 2014 05:01PM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> That's all Republicans have to offer, more
> Benghazi, whatever that means.


Read thread again. Just Benghazi? How about? IRS scandal, VA scandal, Failure to secure the border, Foreign Policy failures, Obamacare, Unconstitutional assertions of power (see Supreme Court decisions), a Justice Department that harasses reporters, destroyed hard drives, blockage of Keystone pipeline, attacks on coal industry, 100s of billions lost in clean energy investments, etc., etc.

Even Democrats are publicly rebuking Obama. Few Democrats up for election will appear on stage with him.

Yeah, and Benghazi, when the administration sent out the UN ambassador to tell an outrageous lie to the American public.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Truth Teller ()
Date: July 21, 2014 06:58PM

Oh, there's more Wrote:
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>
> Read thread again. Just Benghazi? How about? IRS
> scandal, VA scandal, Failure to secure the border,
> Foreign Policy failures, Obamacare,
> Unconstitutional assertions of power (see Supreme
> Court decisions), a Justice Department that
> harasses reporters, destroyed hard drives,
> blockage of Keystone pipeline, attacks on coal
> industry, 100s of billions lost in clean energy
> investments, etc., etc.

The IRS was used by Richard Nixon in a very similar way. VA scandal? The VA has been mismanaged for years. Only under Obama does something that's been fucked up badly for years become a "scandal."

Obamacare? Oh, how dare everyone get healthcare! How dare those people have healthcare, I'd rather they die quickly! Unconsitutional assertions of power, hmm, you mean like every president who's ever signed an executive order EVER? You mean like Reagan who sold weapons to anti-Communist rebels?

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: response to Truth Teller ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:09PM

No, the IRS was not used by Nixon because the IRS refused. Do a little research. Unfortunately, (you would know this if you watched the hearings), Lois Lerner was happy to help. Conveniently, her computer "crashed" and the hard drive has been "recycled". Also, conveniently, the computers of almost 20 of her colleagues also "crashed". And, FYI. Nixon was impeached. It is an impeachable offense and was one of the articles of impeachment.

Yes, VA has been mismanaged for years--but Obama promised to clean it up--and, in fact, had bragged about shortening the wait list. Again, do a little research.

Obamacare is a mess and the administration has delayed mandates in order to hide what a mess it is.

I cannot address Reagan and the sales of weapons--but what do you think was going on at the annex in Benghazi?

Here are some extra comments
Lies: video in Benghazi
"if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan:
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"
"Al Queda is decimated"
"The border is secure"
etc.etc.
ACA will save you 2500 dollars.
There's more.......

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:13PM

Oh, there's more Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> -----
> > That's all Republicans have to offer, more
> > Benghazi, whatever that means.
>
>
> Read thread again. Just Benghazi? How about? IRS
> scandal, VA scandal, Failure to secure the border,
> Foreign Policy failures, Obamacare,
> Unconstitutional assertions of power (see Supreme
> Court decisions), a Justice Department that
> harasses reporters, destroyed hard drives,
> blockage of Keystone pipeline, attacks on coal
> industry, 100s of billions lost in clean energy
> investments, etc., etc.
>
> Even Democrats are publicly rebuking Obama. Few
> Democrats up for election will appear on stage
> with him.
>
> Yeah, and Benghazi, when the administration sent
> out the UN ambassador to tell an outrageous lie to
> the American public.

You wouldn't know what a scandal was if it slapped you in the face. You're a God damn Republican for God sakes.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: True The Vote ! ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:14PM

Voter intimadation In Philly Whoa! thats a golden oldie Obama moment that he and Holder still chuckle about, Gerry loved that shit.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: History Repeats ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:15PM

Truth Teller Wrote:
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>
> The IRS was used by Richard Nixon in a very
> similar way...


Which was the second of the Articles of Impeachment against him.

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Article 2

Using the powers of the office of President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposed of these agencies.

This conduct has included one or more of the following:

1. He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the Internal Revenue Service, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, confidential information contained in income tax returns for purposed not authorized by law, and to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, income tax audits or other income tax investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.

2. He misused the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Secret Service, and other executive personnel, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, by directing or authorizing such agencies or personnel to conduct or continue electronic surveillance or other investigations for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; he did direct, authorize, or permit the use of information obtained thereby for purposes unrelated to national security, the enforcement of laws, or any other lawful function of his office; and he did direct the concealment of certain records made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of electronic surveillance.

3. He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, authorized and permitted to be maintained a secret investigative unit within the office of the President, financed in part with money derived from campaign contributions, which unlawfully utilized the resources of the Central Intelligence Agency, engaged in covert and unlawful activities, and attempted to prejudice the constitutional right of an accused to a fair trial.

4. He has failed to take care that the laws were faithfully executed by failing to act when he knew or had reason to know that his close subordinates endeavoured to impede and frustrate lawful inquiries by duly constituted executive, judicial and legislative entities concerning the unlawful entry into the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee, and the cover-up thereof, and concerning other unlawful activities including those relating to the confirmation of Richard Kleindienst as Attorney General of the United States, the electronic surveillance of private citizens, the break-in into the offices of Dr. Lewis Fielding, and the campaign financing practices of the Committee to Re-elect the President.

5. In disregard of the rule of law, he knowingly misused the executive power by interfering with agencies of the executive branch, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Criminal Division, and the Office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force, of the Department of Justice, and the Central Intelligence Agency, in violation of his duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.

Adopted 28-10 by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives.


Sound kinda familiar?

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: and, remember ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:20PM

Thank you, History Repeats.

Just remember, the IRS refused to help Nixon--in fact, I think someone may have resigned over it at the IRS.

Contrast that with the number of times the director of the IRS and his cronies visited the White House during that period.

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Re: Barbara Comstock screw up Sean Hannity talking point
Posted by: True The Vote ! ()
Date: July 21, 2014 07:39PM

Nice shot.

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