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nova High schools
Posted by: hs1 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:35AM

rank high schools on
academics
sports
safety
students
teachers
crowded or not

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: IKnowThisShit ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:45PM

aite man
academics go to TJ, Langely, Mclean, Woodson

sports- depends on the sport
TJ's got mad tennis and swim teams
Langely, marshall all good at bball
centerville for football

saftey- they all safe

students- Tj is where dem indians at. Langely is a white boy school. annandale's got latinas running wild.

teachers- they all shit

crowd- who cares

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:59PM

Simple ranking system:
1. TJ
2. Schools in northern county plus Woodson and possibly Robinson
3. Schools in the center and western part of the county
4. Schools inside the Beltway plus Lee, Edison, Hayfield and West Potomac
5. Mount Vernon

This is going to hold true for categories that matter.

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Re: nova High schools
Date: July 15, 2014 08:17PM

Don't be too hard on MVHS. We got our issues by not everyone here is trash.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: The Human League ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:32PM

Mt Vernon HS Student,

What exactly is the problem at MVHS? Is there even a problem at all? Or is this just a bunch of hype. It cannot be as bad as everyone says, MVHS has decent SAT scores, not good, but not bad. Prince William County on the other hand has some problems with a few of the schools: Freedom, Gar-Field, for example have not fared to well the past few years; declining SAT participation and declining scores. Mount Vernon has at least managed to stay afloat from what I can tell.

Help me clear this up.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: burning money ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:49PM

The Human League Wrote:
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> Mt Vernon HS Student,
>
> What exactly is the problem at MVHS? Is there even
> a problem at all? Or is this just a bunch of hype.
> It cannot be as bad as everyone says, MVHS has
> decent SAT scores, not good, but not bad. Prince
> William County on the other hand has some problems
> with a few of the schools: Freedom, Gar-Field, for
> example have not fared to well the past few years;
> declining SAT participation and declining scores.
> Mount Vernon has at least managed to stay afloat
> from what I can tell.
>
> Help me clear this up.

The problem with Mount Vernon is that there is a large percentage of the school population that is there only because they're required to be there by state law and have no interest in learning or becoming educated, usually because the people in their community do not value learning or education (and often actively ostracize and abuse the members of their community that DO want to learn and be educated).

If you don't give a shit about being educated, you're going to be a shit student, but the Fairfax County school system is required to spend tens of thousands of dollars effectively babysitting your ignorant, foolish ass regardless.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: PRT ()
Date: July 22, 2014 10:19AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Simple ranking system:
> 1. TJ
> 2. Schools in northern county plus Woodson and
> possibly Robinson
> 3. Schools in the center and western part of the
> county
> 4. Schools inside the Beltway plus Lee, Edison,
> Hayfield and West Potomac
> 5. Mount Vernon
>
> This is going to hold true for categories that
> matter.

Note the following:
- "Northern" county schools include Herndon and South Lakes
- "Schools inside the Beltway are Annandale, McLean, Falls Church, Stuart, and Marshall. Not all of these are bad schools.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: MVHS Alumni ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:54AM

Mt Vernon HS Student Wrote:
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> Don't be too hard on MVHS. We got our issues by
> not everyone here is trash.


The majority there is trash. The CSS kids are more rational and mature than the the mainstream. Dumb kids fighting over the dumbest things, along with them not caring at all about their academics.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 22, 2014 12:03PM

PRT Wrote:
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> Note the following:
> - "Northern" county schools include Herndon and
> South Lakes
> - "Schools inside the Beltway are Annandale,
> McLean, Falls Church, Stuart, and Marshall. Not
> all of these are bad schools.

It was meant to be a quick and easy ranking. Someone else did a far better analysis on a school by school basis in another thread a couple of days later. While I disagree with a few of his classifications, his list makes a good starting point.

To clarify though I would include McLean and Marshall in with the northern county schools and Herndon and South Lakes in with the western schools. The other northern county schools would be Langley, Madison and Oakton.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: Definitive Answer ()
Date: July 22, 2014 02:00PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> PRT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Note the following:
> > - "Northern" county schools include Herndon
> and
> > South Lakes
> > - "Schools inside the Beltway are Annandale,
> > McLean, Falls Church, Stuart, and Marshall.
> Not
> > all of these are bad schools.
>
> It was meant to be a quick and easy ranking.
> Someone else did a far better analysis on a school
> by school basis in another thread a couple of days
> later. While I disagree with a few of his
> classifications, his list makes a good starting
> point.
>
> To clarify though I would include McLean and
> Marshall in with the northern county schools and
> Herndon and South Lakes in with the western
> schools. The other northern county schools would
> be Langley, Madison and Oakton.

This is the prior list. [It is a bit confusing to suggest schools within the beltway are bad when McLean and Marshall are inside the beltway, or to call Oakton a "northern county school" when it's in the middle of the county and is attended by kids who live in the center and western part of the county.]

Tier 1: TJHSST. In a class by itself academically, but a magnet for resentment as well due to the fact that it's increasingly difficult to get into if you are not an Asian student who attended one of a small number of middle schools (Carson, Longfellow, Rocky Run, Kilmer, Frost, Jackson and Lake Braddock) with big programs for gifted students. A bonanza to test prep centers across NoVa.

Tier 2: Langley. The wealthiest and highest-achieving of the neighborhoods schools in FCPS, with far lower percentages of low-income students than any other school. Its Achilles heel, to the extent it has one, is its reputation for social exclusivity and academic competition. Ex-Langley parents whose children have not had a good experience there tend to be very vituperative and highly outspoken; Langley-bashing by those who get freaked out by its Aryan repuation (notwithstanding the large number of Asian and Middle-Eastern students) is also common.

Tier 3: McLean, Madison, Woodson, Oakton. Considered the top neighborhood schools in FCPS after Langley. People will also pay extra to live in these districts, and real estate brokers will mention homes in these districts by name in their listings. But, along with Langley, also most likely to be called "pressure cookers," experience demoralizing student suicides, and generate business for local psychiatrists.

Tier 4: Marshall. A Tier-3 aspirant, but not quite there yet. Bucking the demographic trend in FCPS by gaining white students every year. Ryan McElveen's alma mater and pet school. Just lost the long-time principal who helped raise the school's profile.

Tier 5: West Springfield, Lake Braddock, Robinson, Chantilly, Westfield. Very good schools that are popular with military families, tech workers and those who like to call themselves "down-to-earth," but also don't want to send their kids to schools with too many ESOL/FARMS kids. Among the largest schools in terms of total enrollment.

Tier 6: Herndon, South Lakes, Fairfax, South County, Centreville. Similar to Tier 5, but touted less frequently on message boards and with somewhat higher percentages of low-income students.

Tier 7: West Potomac. Pulls from both very wealthy neighborhoods in Alexandria east of Route 1 and poorer areas like Hybla Valley. Created years ago by merging Fort Hunt and Groveton, which would be like deciding to merge Madison and Falls Church today. Similar in some respects to TC Williams in the City of Alexandria, but with a larger number of middle and upper-middle income students.

Tier 8: Annandale, Falls Church, Stuart, Lee, Edison, Hayfield, Mount Vernon. Majority-minority, low-income schools that have the lowest test scores. Includes several schools with IB programs that probably aren't worth the expense. Tend to be the schools that are openly mocked on message boards by those who wake up every morning wishing they were in Texas armed and personally patrolling the border. Even so, still probably better than most public schools in the country.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: Karen Garzam ()
Date: July 22, 2014 02:34PM

Let's not dance around it - schools with more whites and asians are best. School with more blacks are worst. It's an obvious, undeniable fact. If you want to summarize the school rankings, sort them in order of their demographics.

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: 4whatitsworth ()
Date: July 22, 2014 02:59PM

Tier 4 has the best overall schools in FCPS:

Virginia High School League Wells Fargo Cup for Academic Activities

Points are awarded for outstanding participation in: scholastic bowl, creative writing, theatre, forensics, debate, newspaper, yearbook and magazine.

AAA VHSL State Champions
2002 – Chantilly
2004 – Chantilly
2005 – Chantilly
2006 – Chantilly
2007 – Westfield
2008 – Chantilly
2009 – Chantilly
2010 – Westfield
2011 – Westfield
2012 – Westfield
2013 – TJ

6A VHSL State Champions
2014 – Chantilly

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/wells-fargo-2014-academic-standings.pdf

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Re: nova High schools
Posted by: YOLO ()
Date: July 22, 2014 04:29PM

Let's face it, these kids in this county are idiots.

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