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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: You don't even have a "bank ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:54PM

balance", troll. Now get your shinebox.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: I said, "get your shinebox" ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:54PM

asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:54PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Yes, I'm an asshole.

How low is that actually when you have to resort to spoofing another poster's handle? Go explode yourself, you stupid worthless fucktard.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Winning hearts and minds ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:55PM

Asshole Report $14-0071 Wrote:
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> Winning hearts and minds Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > None at all.
>
> Trying to change horses in the middle of a stream?
> That's some fucking butthurt you've got going on.
>

Nope, I'll be here riding your old ass like a champ.

>
> > In fact, I very much like when you post. The
> more
> > the better. You do all the work of revealing
> what
> > a true blowhard asshole you are. And a great
> job
> > I might add. Please, continue...
>
> Well, it's getting late and you worthless assholes
> are getting lamer by the minute.


Past your bed time Grandpa. You old folks get cranky when you don't get your 5 hours of sleep. lol

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ohhh, it's pissy now. ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:56PM

whaa, whaa.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0073 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:56PM

Hey, I'm an asshole!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: uhh the vietnamese.... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:56PM

are not liked by many Asian nationalities who consider themselves better like the korean or japanese. Vietnamese is the bottom of the pole at the same level of salvador in terms of poverty.


The point is.. Wrote:
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> Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> > > infestation. Hilarious.
> >
> > So you totally missed the point. How many
> dozens
> > of times a day does that actually happen to
> you?
>
>
> Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically superior to
> El Salvadorians and Hondurans.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: How does it feel to be so wrong ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:57PM

about everything, asshole?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Man oh Man ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:58PM

DETROIT = FAIRFAX. My kids have graduated...time to get out. LOVE America, but this policy is WRONG. Illegal...it's as simple as that. They should not be allowed to be here living off everyone else hard work. Do it the legal way and I'm all for it. I have a friend who is Mexican and she joined the US Army to fight against the 9/11 terrorism and gained her citizenship the right way.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:58PM

what a shithole Wrote:
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> must've loved the 29 Diner.

Their partial reopening is at the end of the month. Probably September for full-scale operations.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: genetically superior ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:58PM

Nietzsche called and wants his reputation back from you asshole...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Yes but... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:59PM

uhh the vietnamese.... Wrote:
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> are not liked by many Asian nationalities who
> consider themselves better like the korean or
> japanese. Vietnamese is the bottom of the pole at
> the same level of salvador in terms of poverty.
>
>
> The point is.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> > > > infestation. Hilarious.
> > >
> > > So you totally missed the point. How many
> > dozens
> > > of times a day does that actually happen to
> > you?
> >
> >
> > Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically superior
> to
> > El Salvadorians and Hondurans.


Yes, that is true, but the bottom end Asian still beats the bottom end Hispanic.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Meanwhile, at Denney's... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:00PM

Our own racist troll holds court for his "genetically superior" thoughts & imaginary friends.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Is mexico like central america?? ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:01PM

Your mexican friend did it the right way very nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous gang like el salvador where the youngest of children are initiated? If you or your kids lived in those cities would you want to stay there and deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?

Man oh Man Wrote:
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> DETROIT = FAIRFAX. My kids have graduated...time
> to get out. LOVE America, but this policy is
> WRONG. Illegal...it's as simple as that. They
> should not be allowed to be here living off
> everyone else hard work. Do it the legal way and
> I'm all for it. I have a friend who is Mexican
> and she joined the US Army to fight against the
> 9/11 terrorism and gained her citizenship the
> right way.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: laughable ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:04PM

Maybe in your pea sized brain. At least latinos don't eat dogs and cats or their young or have major self esteem issues and self hatred! I guess that is considered high class for you?

Yes but... Wrote:
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> uhh the vietnamese.... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > are not liked by many Asian nationalities who
> > consider themselves better like the korean or
> > japanese. Vietnamese is the bottom of the pole
> at
> > the same level of salvador in terms of poverty.
> >
> >
> > The point is.. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our
> current
> > > > > infestation. Hilarious.
> > > >
> > > > So you totally missed the point. How many
> > > dozens
> > > > of times a day does that actually happen to
> > > you?
> > >
> > >
> > > Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically
> superior
> > to
> > > El Salvadorians and Hondurans.
>
>
> Yes, that is true, but the bottom end Asian still
> beats the bottom end Hispanic.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:11PM

Cracka say wut? Wrote:
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> My problem people? I'm half Puerto Rican and half
> Italian both right off of the boat. Does that
> qualify as a "honkie?" lmao

Honky transcends race and ethnicity. Even a clueless dumbfuck ought to have known that.

> The fact is that the high school completion rate
> is significantly lower among immigrants. Much
> lower among Hispanic illegals even after multiple
> generations.

Why would that be? Have you adjusted for fucking anything?

> The numbers are only larger in the case of native-
> born because there are far more. Which you very
> obviously understand but you're just being a
> fucktard and trying to play up numbers vs rate now
> in a weak attempt to prop up your own bullshit.

Blow me, asshole. You're the goober who tried to hide the actual numbers behind your misleading unadjusted rates. Don't apply for any sort of math or statistics job. You'll just be laughed out of the building if all that is the best you can muster. Mindless assfuck.

> The rates are what they are.

Yes. Misleading. Which you still utterly fail to comprehend. What a dork!

> Some more white guilt with your cracker, cracker?

Guilt? None of this was any of my doing. Some bunch of racist low-grade assholes are the ones causing most of the problems here, worthless pieces of goober trash that they are.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: racial recap ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:12PM

13 Vietnam 94


27 El Salvador 80


http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

Pho > Pupusas

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 9pWD7 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:14PM

Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
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> Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> children are initiated? If you or your kids lived
> in those cities would you want to stay there and
> deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
>


It does. Five in the top 25 in the world by murder rate.

Acapulco is 3rd at 112.8/100K
Culiacán 15th at 54.6/100K
Torreón 18th at 54.2
Chihuahua 21st at 50.1
Ciudad Victoria 22nd at 49.2

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:17PM

Winning hearts and minds Wrote:
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> Past your bed time Grandpa. You old folks get
> cranky when you don't get your 5 hours of sleep. lol

Got the All Star game on tape delay over here. Maybe once that's over. I'll head to bed. It's nice not to have to get up and go to work unless you want to. It's a pleasure that I suspect you'll never ever know. Ignorant fucking asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pay up cracka ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:24PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Cracka say wut? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My problem people? I'm half Puerto Rican and
> half
> > Italian both right off of the boat. Does that
> > qualify as a "honkie?" lmao
>
> Honky transcends race and ethnicity. Even a
> clueless dumbfuck ought to have known that.


So does being a pretentious asshole like you.


>
> > The fact is that the high school completion
> rate
> > is significantly lower among immigrants. Much
> > lower among Hispanic illegals even after
> multiple
> > generations.
>
> Why would that be? Have you adjusted for fucking
> anything?
>
> > The numbers are only larger in the case of
> native-
> > born because there are far more. Which you very
>
> > obviously understand but you're just being a
> > fucktard and trying to play up numbers vs rate
> now
> > in a weak attempt to prop up your own bullshit.
>
>
> Blow me, asshole. You're the goober who tried to
> hide the actual numbers behind your misleading
> unadjusted rates. Don't apply for any sort of
> math or statistics job. You'll just be laughed
> out of the building if all that is the best you
> can muster. Mindless assfuck.
>

There's no adjustment necessary to the rates/number. As you well know. You're the one now trying to count on the basis of raw numbers with no consideration of the relative numbers in the population.


> > The rates are what they are.
>
> Yes. Misleading. Which you still utterly fail to
> comprehend. What a dork!


Not at all misleading. They are the rates for each group. Because there are more or less of one or another doesn't change the respective rates.

>
> > Some more white guilt with your cracker,
> cracker?
>
> Guilt? None of this was any of my doing. Some
> bunch of racist low-grade assholes are the ones
> causing most of the problems here, worthless
> pieces of goober trash that they are.


You're white, you're guilty. You owe me cracker.

lmao

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 16, 2014 12:37AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> BeanCounter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Had per annum student growth rate remained
> > consistent to the five years leading up to
> > Connolly's statement....
>
> Your math skills are horrible, but why would you
> expect student growth rates to remain constant
> over any five year period, not to mention the ones
> in question? Are you just too oblivious to
> understand the foolishness in that?
>
> > The more you know.
>
> Or the less, in some cases.



I really hope you did not graduate from FCPS

The more insults & free flowing profanity someone throws is inverse indicator of intelligence

Who said student body growth should remain constant? That was not what was provided. It's called math. Remedial version once for free, after that there's a charge.

.36% per annum FCPS student body growth for period 2002 to 2007 increased to 1.7% per annum growth 2007 to 2014. Per annum rate increase 470%.

579.2 additional students/year avg 2002 to 2007

3347.6 additional students/year avg 2007 to 2012

Cause and effect dictate something happened to effect change of that magnitude.

The neighboring school district's county supervisors addressed illegal immigration's impact on their budget, schools, hospitals, police and other public services in 2007.

Fairfax County's supervisor Gerry Connolly then rolled out the welcome mat.

Draw your own conclusions.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: You didn't answer my question! ()
Date: July 16, 2014 12:45AM

Read and answer the question again please. Honduras is first in homocides and has the most dangerous city in the world. Mexico has a lot of drug trafficking coming in from central america but it's not as close. They don't have a severe gang problem either. Basically the reason salvadorans were granted asylum back in the 80's was because of the major violence going on in el salvador that is still going on. You should try speaking to a salvadoran and asking them about it! A mexican's story will pale in comparison to a person from central america.
9pWD7 Wrote:
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> Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> > nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> > world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> > have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> > gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> > children are initiated? If you or your kids
> lived
> > in those cities would you want to stay there
> and
> > deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
> >
>
>
> It does. Five in the top 25 in the world by
> murder rate.
>
> Acapulco is 3rd at 112.8/100K
> Culiacán 15th at 54.6/100K
> Torreón 18th at 54.2
> Chihuahua 21st at 50.1
> Ciudad Victoria 22nd at 49.2

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ArtFromTheHeart ()
Date: July 16, 2014 01:04AM

Ted Velkoff from FCPS must idolize Gerry Connolly's Fairfax County Welcome Mat and Education for Illegals No Matter the Cost half-baked message!

Here's your sign, Velkoff & Connolly:
Attachments:
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: El Niño ()
Date: July 16, 2014 01:49AM

You didn't answer my question! Wrote:
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> Read and answer the question again please.
> Honduras is first in homocides and has the most
> dangerous city in the world. Mexico has a lot of
> drug trafficking coming in from central america
> but it's not as close. They don't have a severe
> gang problem either. Basically the reason
> salvadorans were granted asylum back in the 80's
> was because of the major violence going on in el
> salvador that is still going on. You should try
> speaking to a salvadoran and asking them about it!
> A mexican's story will pale in comparison to a
> person from central america.


Depends on how you want to count it. Honduras has the highest rate but it has far fewer in number than many others. 7,172 vs 26,037 for Mexico, 50,108 for Brazil, 16,072 for Venezuela. The relatively small population for it as well as the other Central American countries of primary interest is what causes the rate to be very high. If you think that Mexico and the others don't have a gang and other similar organized crime problems, then you're nuts. They just have a large enough population otherwise to offset all of the murders as far as the rate goes.

Not to diminish that Honduras has some of the worst, but there are many others in the same general range. Once you get above a certain level a few 1,000s here or there really doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of difference in making it any more or less of a clusterfuck. e.g., 1/3 of the greater number of murders in Venezuela happen in one place (Caracas) vs 1/5 of a smaller of murders in Honduras happening in San Pedro Sula. Which is more dangerous? Who cares, they're both nightmares.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: how'sthat? ()
Date: July 16, 2014 02:42AM

How did the Illegals are Flooding Fairfax's Classrooms turn into a countries of Central America murder rate debate?

Mind the Thread people.


Now, how do you say that in Spanish, Urdu, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Hindi, Arabic, Farsi and every other language we pay to translate into?

Waiting for the shoe to drop when we start having to give homework to students in their native language without even expecting people to learn English.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: mrsoleary ()
Date: July 16, 2014 11:49AM

BeanCounter said FCPS student population was:

2002: 160,697
2007: 163,593 (+2,896)
2012: 177,435 (+13,842)
2014: 183,231 (+22,534)


If this is right, that does seem like an incredible increase. Has there been anything which explains the amount of increase?

Do other school systems in the area have this kind of increase?

I'll bet schools aren't allowed to ask whether students are legally in the US because the county probably doesn't want that information out there.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: thats legit ()
Date: July 16, 2014 02:30PM

Numbers are correct

There are the rapid changes occurring in our enrollment and demographics. Since FY 2010, overall enrollment has grown by more than 15,000 students. Since 2010, our ESOL population has increased by 51 percent and we are projecting that nearly 29,000 students will need ESOL services next year. Meanwhile the number of students eligible for Free and Reduced Price Meals has grown by 25 percent to more than 52,000 students next year. More than one in four FCPS students is now eligible for free or reduced price meals.

Source Chairman Moon presentation to Board of Supervisors

Its a good read for people who can actually read things

http://www.fcps.edu/news/fy2015/docs/bosremarks040814.pdf

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: are they afraid to tell us? ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:24PM

^ The link above explains the situation, but does not answer the previous poster's questions which are:

"If this is right, that does seem like an incredible increase. Has there been anything which explains the amount of increase?

Do other school systems in the area have this kind of increase?"


Will anyone answer these questions??????

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: unsafe in parts of the US ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:29PM

As for gang problems and homicides, the city of Chicago looks more and more like some of these Central American countries every day.

I would think that the danger level depends on where you are in each of these countries.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FWIW ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:33PM

List of 2013 cities with most homicides:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ummm are you an idiot? ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:47PM

El Niño Wrote:
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> You didn't answer my question! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Read and answer the question again please.
> > Honduras is first in homocides and has the most
> > dangerous city in the world. Mexico has a lot
> of
> > drug trafficking coming in from central america
> > but it's not as close. They don't have a severe
> > gang problem either. Basically the reason
> > salvadorans were granted asylum back in the
> 80's
> > was because of the major violence going on in
> el
> > salvador that is still going on. You should try
> > speaking to a salvadoran and asking them about
> it!
> > A mexican's story will pale in comparison to a
> > person from central america.
>
>
> Depends on how you want to count it. Honduras has
> the highest rate but it has far fewer in number
> than many others. 7,172 vs 26,037 for Mexico,
> 50,108 for Brazil, 16,072 for Venezuela. The
> relatively small population for it as well as the
> other Central American countries of primary
> interest is what causes the rate to be very high.
> If you think that Mexico and the others don't have
> a gang and other similar organized crime problems,
> then you're nuts. They just have a large enough
> population otherwise to offset all of the murders
> as far as the rate goes.
>
> Not to diminish that Honduras has some of the
> worst, but there are many others in the same
> general range. Once you get above a certain level
> a few 1,000s here or there really doesn't make a
> whole hell of a lot of difference in making it any
> more or less of a clusterfuck. e.g., 1/3 of the
> greater number of murders in Venezuela happen in
> one place (Caracas) vs 1/5 of a smaller of murders
> in Honduras happening in San Pedro Sula. Which is
> more dangerous? Who cares, they're both
> nightmares.

THe statistics are based on a city per 100,000 persons. Looking at that, more murders are done by 1 city in Honduras categorized as the most dangerous in the world. It's not the same idiot. Mexico has more cities and all of them are safer than acapulco. As a whole Honduras is plagued by gang, drug, and govt corruption problems. You can't answer the question yet you still want to be right. Stubborn fuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Statistician ()
Date: July 16, 2014 06:22PM

A city with a long history of electing democrats is guaranteed to have a high murder rate. And no, there is never a rational lib response to this inconvenient truth. When you vote democrat, you're supporting murder.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: reason why ()
Date: July 16, 2014 08:19PM

blacks vote nearly 100% democrat

imagine the outrage if white voted 100% republican

double standard much

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 16, 2014 09:26PM

Prince William
60,229 June 2002

72,654 June 2007 12,425

83,551 June 2012 23,322

85,847 June 2014 25,618


Loudoun
37,532 June 2002

50,740 June 2007 13,208

65,653 June 2012 28,121

70,858 June 2014 33,326


Comparing 2002-2007 to 2007-2012, the growth rate changes are staggering:
Fairfax 2007 to 2012 v. 2002 to 2007 370%
Loudoun 2007 to 2012 v. 2002 to 2007 -16.48%
Prince William 2007 to 2012 v. 2002 to 2007 -27.30%


If growth rates were comparable to the five years prior to 2007:
FCPS = 15,294 *fewer* students now
Loudoun = 306 additional students now
Prince William = 5,445 additional students now


It seems Prince William took steps it felt necessary and got the results to avoid having about 5,500 more students than they have now have.


Prince William's growth rate reduced radically in those comparative time periods. The recent growth from 2012-2014 compared to 2002-2007 has been cut -86.68%.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ReadThis ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:15PM

wondering how much this cost:
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: By BY ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:20PM

Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
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> Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> children are initiated? If you or your kids lived
> in those cities would you want to stay there and
> deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
>


Not my fucking problem. Bottom of the rung Illegal Hispanics are not welcome.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: neerbeer ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:27PM

bazinga.
Attachments:
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pulp fiction ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:34PM

English mother fucker! Do you speak it..

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Math-tastic ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:46PM

This isn't hard.

BeanCounter already gave the #s-


Prince William Board of Supervisors saw writing on wall in 2007 and acted decisively to comply with intent of federal immigration laws whether fed government closed border or not.

After they put public on notice and put ICE on speed dial, their school growth slammed to halt: -27.30% growth in next 5 yrs.

FCPS annual enrollment growth rate increased by 370% in same time.

Thanks Gerry Connolly for 2007 start on the downward slide the current Fairfax supervisors have done nothing about.

If FCPS school board or superintendent had any balls, they'd shout it from the mountaintop.

ICE needs to be Fairfax County's new best friend. Sorry, but we have our own in Bailey's, Rt.1, and more to take care of.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FreakEnomix ()
Date: July 16, 2014 11:53PM

Good grief almighty.

Can't you folks see that GDP equivalent in Virginia has been crushed since 2007?

http://econpost.com/virginiaeconomy/virginia-gdp-size-rank

The data for economic growth show Virginia GDP grew
nominally at 1.3% in real terms from 2007 to 2008.

During the years of 2000-2008, Virginia GDP grew at
an annual rate of 5.4% in nominal terms and in real
terms the economy grew by 2.8%.

The purple-ing [or blue-ing] is so very very bad for northern Virginia.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: but your dirty white shit poor ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:31AM

By BY Wrote:
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> Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> > nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> > world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> > have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> > gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> > children are initiated? If you or your kids
> lived
> > in those cities would you want to stay there
> and
> > deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
> >
>
>
> Not my fucking problem. Bottom of the rung Illegal
> Hispanics are not welcome.


but your dirty bottom of the barrel white trash ancestors were! and worse they lied and stole the last 240 years! Yeah but you grew to be a entitled shit who think his shit smells better than everyone else's. One day this land will go back to the ones who still have indian blood (hispanics)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: The Human League ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:44AM

FreakEnomix Wrote:
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> Good grief almighty.
>
> Can't you folks see that GDP equivalent in
> Virginia has been crushed since 2007?
>
> http://econpost.com/virginiaeconomy/virginia-gdp-s
> ize-rank
>
> The data for economic growth show
> Virginia GDP grew
> nominally at 1.3% in real terms from
> 2007 to 2008.
>
> During the years of 2000-2008, Virginia
> GDP grew at
> an annual rate of 5.4% in nominal terms
> and in real
> terms the economy grew by 2.8%.
>
> The purple-ing [or blue-ing] is so very very bad
> for northern Virginia.

Not sure if you are being serious... but like its kind of obvious what happened in 2008.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: EPIC ()
Date: July 17, 2014 01:25AM

The leaked EPIC report discusses the motivational factors of the illegal immigrants in their choice to migrate to the United States:

(U//LES) In late May, the U.S. Border Patrol interviewed unaccompanied children (UAC) and migrant families apprehended in the Rio Grande Valley. Of the 230 total migrants interviewed, 219 cited the primary reason for migrating to the United States was the perception of U.S. immigration laws granting free passes or permisos to UAC and adult female OTMs traveling with minors. Migrants indicated that knowledge of permisos was widespread across Central America due to word of mouth, local, and international media messaging—prompting many to depart for the United States within 30 days of becoming aware of these perceived benefits, according to the same reporting.

(U//LES) A majority of migrants interviewed also noted that they had encountered family units, consisting of a mother and child under the age of 18 during their journey to the United States and that the families had indicated they planned to surrender to U.S. authorities because they were informed that they would likely be released.

The EPIC report discusses the lack of correlation between violence rates in Central America and the current border crisis:

(U//LES) EPIC assesses homicide trends and migrant interviews suggest violence is likely not the principal factor driving the increase in UAC migration. While CBP data from early fiscal year 2011 indicates a steady increase in OTM and UAC migration, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) statistics— within this same timeframe— show a decline in per capita homicide rates in these three countries; El Salvador saw the sharpest decline, followed by Honduras and Guatemala, respectively.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gunlover ()
Date: July 17, 2014 04:00AM

Any got grey hair?

Never Run Out of Ammo

Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People

Them or You

The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:09AM

Pay up cracka Wrote:
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> So does being a pretentious asshole like you.

Go fuck yourself, loser. You were an asshole when you got up this morning and will still be an asshole when you go to bed tonight. Intellectually, there is no functional justification for your existence. You bring nothing to the table and take nothing away. Sort of like a dead fish or a lump of coal. Worthless is one good word for it.

> There's no adjustment necessary to the rates/number. As you well know.

I certainly know a great deal more than you do in this area, one part of which is knowing that you cannot validly compare dissimilar populations. Dissimilarities not analyzed and not as necessary corrected for carry biases that move the numbers in ways not related to the thesis. This is pretty standard stuff for people who actually know what they are talking about. You plainly are not in that class. Not nearly.

> You're the one now trying to count on the basis of
> raw numbers with no consideration of the relative
> numbers in the population.

Kiss my ass, you worthless ignorant dumbfuck. Transparency calls for ALL the data to be on the table. You fucking march in here with your goober/doofus percentage-based claims and insinuations, then go all ape-shit when somebody comes along and posts the raw numbers behind those percentages, thus suggesting that your all your stooge-brained claims are the nonsense that they always have been. You're nothing but a dishonest piece of worthless partisan troll-shit. As I said, go fuck yourself, loser.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Our little troll is back, mad ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:13AM

as ever, with spittle flying as it furiously pounds cutnpaste talking points. How cute!

How is our little sock troll this AM?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Sock head ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:14AM

You all seem to have a picture burned into your minds that illegal immigrants are of hispanic origin. Through my line of work i know for a fact that you may find out there are large quantities of other people sharing social security numbers, names, and even birth certificates. Ive witnessedfirst hand and had to even terminate employment due to this problem. Ive seen Europeans (specifically Irish), African people from all over that continent (white and black), asians, and of course from all over the Middle East. So why none of the same outrage over any of those people? And trust me they arent here illegally working for pennies. You like so many others around here now are a racist.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: What "race" is Mexico, exactly? ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:56AM

Brazil? El Salvador? Costa Rica?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:39AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> I really hope you did not graduate from FCPS

Such relevance. If you need reassurance however, you may with confidence assume that I have graduated from a number of schools that you could never have gotten into.

> The more insults & free flowing profanity someone
> throws is inverse indicator of intelligence

False. Identifying devious and disinformed fucktards and then boldly labeling them as such is a high calling. Think in a similar vein of "Doctors Without Borders" out on the front lines inoculating those most at risk against the effects of an emerging plague. Get the picture?

> Who said student body growth should remain constant?

You did. That's why my reply pointed it out.

> It's called math. Remedial version once for free,
> after that there's a charge.

Your business model sucks. I am much more deeply versed in the field than you.

> .36% per annum FCPS student body growth for period
> 2002 to 2007 increased to 1.7% per annum growth
> 2007 to 2014. Per annum rate increase 470%.

Fathead, the rate of growth in FCPS membership has averaged 1.1% in this century. It was a little lower prior to the Great Recession and has been a little higher since. This sort of stability is why PROJECTED membership for FCPS has been in the 100-101% range of the subsequent ACTUAL membership in nearly all recent years. The exceptions in particular were 2007-08 and 2008-09. The general explanation of those two small underestimates has been that the severity of the Great Recession was not anticipated in projections and that marginal private and sectarian school families were unexpectedly forced by income effects to pull the plug and return to FCPS in those years.

> 579.2 additional students/year avg 2002 to 2007
> 3347.6 additional students/year avg 2007 to 2012
> Cause and effect dictate something happened to
> effect change of that magnitude.

The first cause here is cherry-picking. The second is failure to imagine any other contributing factors beyond the single stupid biased one that you wish to push forward. These are clown-claims, bro.

> The neighboring school district's county supervisors
> addressed illegal immigration's impact on their budget,
> schools, hospitals, police and other public services
> in 2007.

LOLOLOL! Owing to its socio-economically disastrous results, the PWC anti-immigrant ordinance was amended in substance a mere six months after it went into effect, and it was never actually enforced by anyone. None of the goals or aims of the ordinance were ever actually met or achieved, but the adverse effects on county image, cash-flow, and levels of economic activity were indeed notable. This is why PWC beat such a hasty retreat, a rush to backtrack to the point where the county today is majority-minority with the foreign-born comprising 21% of the population and 30.3% of the population speaking a language other than English at home. Compare that 2010 number to the 16.3% number from 2000. You are reporting here from La-la-land, dude, not from Prince William County.

> Fairfax County's supervisor Gerry Connolly then rolled
> out the welcome mat. Draw your own conclusions.

By that, you mean that Fairfax was not stupid enough to follow PWC's disastrously failed lead. Thank goodness for that!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:49AM

mrsoleary Wrote:
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> BeanCounter said FCPS student population was:
>
> 2002: 160,697
> 2007: 163,593 (+2,896)
> 2012: 177,435 (+13,842)
> 2014: 183,231 (+22,534)
>
> If this is right, that does seem like an
> incredible increase.

Though the unsourced data themselves are correct enough here, the numbers in parentheses represent a 5-year change, another 5-year change, and then a fucking 12-year change!!! Honest mistake? Hahahahaha! This is the self-proclaimed math whiz at work here. He wants to tutor other people at ti. This was a crude and deliberate FALSIFICATION of the data done in an attempt to suggest changes that have never occurred. We sometimes call this sort of behavior LYING!!!

> Has there been anything which explains the amount of increase?

Good question. I wonder why Math Whiz Boy never asked or answered it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "actually enforced by anyone" ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:53AM

Except as noted by that notorious anti illegal immigration rag, the WaPo: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/06/AR2010050602382.html

Troll = wrong again...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: OMG!!!! THE NUMBERS!!!! ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:54AM

So, what's your (alleged) point? MB is using the same scale throughout. Selecting ranges and yelling "poopoohead" isn't exactly showing mental acuity.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Troll still won't answer Qs.. ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:56AM

but still in spittle flecked rage.

They're Illegal, rage boy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: IllegalIllegalIllegal... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:57AM

just to piss off irrational rage boy some more...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Get your shinebox, troll... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:57AM

Illegal

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Teacher Friend ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:04AM

I have a teacher friend at a prominently Hispanic Elementary School in Herndon and she is really frustrated with the number of kids in her class who are struggling academically. These kids barely speak English, have difficult family lives and are getting lost in the system. The problem continues to get worse and as much as she tries, these kids might be in a better position here in the states, but in the long run they will continue to have trouble assimilate to the new culture.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ummmm...nope. ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:05AM

Yes, I have been in the emergency room lately. the guy who came in after me didn't speak english, didn't have insurance and (against HIPAA guidelines) the receptionist was bitching to me about it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:11AM

thats legit Wrote:
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> Numbers are correct

The math isn't.

> Source Chairman Moon presentation to Board of
> Supervisors. Its a good read for people who can
> actually read things

Here's another interesting quote from it...

"We have reached a tipping point where the underfunding of our schools at both the county and state levels for the past several years has led us to where we now face a distressing reality – one that suggests there is very real and troubling evidence that our great school system is beginning to show signs of decline."

Investments in maintaining not just good but excellent public schools have been among the linchpins of the economic growth and progress of Fairfax County over the past 20 years. Walk away from that, and all bets are off. We can become a has-been county much more quickly than many might suspect. Drain the oil out of a Mercedes and see how far you can drive it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Troll really trying to divert... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:33AM

from getting it's little ass kicked again.

BTW, FCPS's heyday was in the early 90s. Get with the 21st Century, jewh8ter.

(FWIW, total $/pupil actual spending increase > inflation. Shitty ROI there)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Even MSNBC now understanding ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:45AM

concept of "illegal"

Liberal heads explode. Hilarity ensues.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FrickinFrustratedinFairfax ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:53AM

My wife and I are trying to find a house in Fairfax in one of the decent school zones at a reasonable price. The problem is, all of the houses we can afford (under a half million) are in school zones infested with illegal immigrants. My daughter's school sucks because of them and just gets worse and worse. A once strong school system is crumbling...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: under .5M? ... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:56AM

and I'm betting that back in Kansas you thought wages here were superdeduperhigh, amiright?

Get the fuck out. Goober. Must be a teapartier.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:57AM

FrickinFrustratedinFairfax Wrote:
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> My wife and I are trying to find a house in
> Fairfax in one of the decent school zones at a
> reasonable price. The problem is, all of the
> houses we can afford (under a half million) are in
> school zones infested with illegal immigrants. My
> daughter's school sucks because of them and just
> gets worse and worse. A once strong school system
> is crumbling...

Well too bad!

I pay over $10k a year in property taxes so I have out priced the problem.

My income is unearned income, so I don't have to pay the tax rate that most of you peasants have to pay.


Unlike you peasents who cut your own lawns, I hire migrants to cut mine!

Hahhaa I'm living the good life!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: private schools are the way togo ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:35AM

FrickinFrustratedinFairfax Wrote:
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> My wife and I are trying to find a house in
> Fairfax in one of the decent school zones at a
> reasonable price. The problem is, all of the
> houses we can afford (under a half million) are in
> school zones infested with illegal immigrants. My
> daughter's school sucks because of them and just
> gets worse and worse. A once strong school system
> is crumbling...


Buy a house you like and just send your kids to private school. FCPS are turning to shit, which is why private schools around here are becoming more popular. Just look at PVI.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:38AM

Hispanic/Latino #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 22,556 14.00%

2014 43,211 23.60%


Black/African American #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 16,909 10.50%

2014 18,840 10.30%


Asian #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 25,771 16.00%

2014 35,670 19.50%


As percentage of total FCPS student population
Blacks dropped -1.9%
Asians increased +21.88%
Hispanic increased +68.57%

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Petulant Lib ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:42AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> Hispanic/Latino #s and % of total FCPS students
>
> 2002 22,556 14.00%
>
> 2014 43,211 23.60%
>
>
> Black/African American #s and % of total FCPS
> students
>
> 2002 16,909 10.50%
>
> 2014 18,840 10.30%
>
>
> Asian #s and % of total FCPS students
>
> 2002 25,771 16.00%
>
> 2014 35,670 19.50%
>
>
> As percentage of total FCPS student population
> Blacks dropped -1.9%
> Asians increased +21.88%
> Hispanic increased +68.57%

STOP CONFUSING US WITH FACTS!!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Panties all in a bunch ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:47AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pay up cracka Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So does being a pretentious asshole like you.
>
> Go fuck yourself, loser. You were an asshole when
> you got up this morning and will still be an
> asshole when you go to bed tonight.
> Intellectually, there is no functional
> justification for your existence. You bring
> nothing to the table and take nothing away. Sort
> of like a dead fish or a lump of coal. Worthless
> is one good word for it.
>

I'm sorry that you're a pretentious asshole. Feel better now?


> > There's no adjustment necessary to the
> rates/number. As you well know.
>
> I certainly know a great deal more than you do in
> this area, one part of which is knowing that you
> cannot validly compare dissimilar populations.
> Dissimilarities not analyzed and not as necessary
> corrected for carry biases that move the numbers
> in ways not related to the thesis. This is pretty
> standard stuff for people who actually know what
> they are talking about. You plainly are not in
> that class. Not nearly.
>

You certainly can validly compare dissimilar populations, and many other dissimilar things, without "adjustment." If that were not the case, then that would exclude most demographic comparisons. And you definitely can compare graduation rates between different racial groups. There may need to be some adjustment to specific data sets to make them comparable and there may be underlying reasons for and differences between the groups which require some further understanding and explanation in order to interpret and explain the results, but the comparison of such data in and of itself is valid. Simply because they are dissimilar does not necessarily imply required "adjustment."

The graduation rates for respective demographic groups are what they are. Even where proper data adjustments are made, the results are the same. There are no valid data or methods "adjustment" which you can make which will change that immigrant, and specifically recent Hispanic immigrant, graduation rates significantly lag those of other groups.


> > You're the one now trying to count on the basis
> of
> > raw numbers with no consideration of the
> relative
> > numbers in the population.
>
> Kiss my ass, you worthless ignorant dumbfuck.
> Transparency calls for ALL the data to be on the
> table. You fucking march in here with your
> goober/doofus percentage-based claims and
> insinuations, then go all ape-shit when somebody
> comes along and posts the raw numbers behind those
> percentages, thus suggesting that your all your
> stooge-brained claims are the nonsense that they
> always have been. You're nothing but a dishonest
> piece of worthless partisan troll-shit. As I
> said, go fuck yourself, loser.

Says the dumbshit who regularly cherry picks whatever works best for the argument being made at the time, omitting that which does not. And who just tried to blatantly distort things by comparing raw numbers with no consideration of the relative sizes of the populations. lol!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:02PM

Petulant Lib Wrote:
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> > STOP CONFUSING US WITH FACTS!!!!


^You're welcome.


White #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 89,530 55.80%

2014 75,962 41.40%


As % of FCPS student population

White students dropped -25.81%

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: great choices ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:19PM

The guy on here who is in his 50's or 60's or whatever and who keeps posting incessantly about how much money he has and that he has no kids does not matter. He's almost dead. The people who matter are the ones actually paying taxes out of earned income (not him). They are the the majority of residents here and what happens to their salaries and their expenses is what matters going forward in this county. If they don't have as much money, there is nothing that Mr. Rich can say that will change how they vote and how they view illegals coming in here. Mr. Rich is not in touch with reality. The working people who have children have even more incentive to keep high quality schools here. There is nothing worse than working hard, paying more taxes, and sending your kid to a school where he/she is not receiving an education that is appropriately challenging and interesting. As someone above noted, the people who value a high level of education are looking for areas of the county where they can get that. That behavior will further segregate the county economically. The achievement gap follows. Either spend the most you can on a house or give it up and use the money for private school for your kids (or don't have kids and pay for the illegals' kids).

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Mr. Rich = our little troll ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:49PM

and of course, it isn't "rich" or anything - just spewing talking points. Note the language use...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: GPS ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:52PM

Mr. Rich = our little troll Wrote:
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> and of course, it isn't "rich" or anything - just
> spewing talking points. Note the language use...


Yeah. Time for him to get off the information superhighway.

How-to-Make-Money-Online-and-be-Famous-S

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dont feed the troll ()
Date: July 17, 2014 02:13PM

Its not a racial thing

Its the unsustainable increase in ESOL and FRMS and ILLLEGAL immigration

Long term this county is screwed

More and more people requiring services = higher taxes and lower quality education in other parts of the county. The increasing class sizes are just the beginning.

I'm not talking for everyone either. Class sizes in the Northern aka richer part of the county have increased to over 30 persons per class at the Elementary level.


If you are spending more for some people you have to reduce quality/spending for others or increase taxes. Are people really going to like having their taxes go up for reduced quality in education just so the illegals can keep cashing in.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Schools Crippled ()
Date: July 17, 2014 05:12PM

FCPS has deteriorated dramatically over the last two decades. That deterioration is accelerating. What is the school board doing? Undertaking a $5.6 million project to change the school day when it is clear that there are many other costs (traffic etc.) associated with the change. This is the type of thing that is very frustrating to county taxpayers and home owners.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 17, 2014 05:37PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> mrsoleary Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BeanCounter said FCPS student population was:
> >
> > 2002: 160,697
> > 2007: 163,593 (+2,896)
> > 2012: 177,435 (+13,842)
> > 2014: 183,231 (+22,534)
> >
> > If this is right, that does seem like an
> > incredible increase.
>
> Though the unsourced data themselves are correct
> enough here, the numbers in parentheses represent
> a 5-year change, another 5-year change, and then a
> fucking 12-year change!!! Honest mistake?
> Hahahahaha! This is the self-proclaimed math whiz
> at work here. He wants to tutor other people at
> ti. This was a crude and deliberate FALSIFICATION
> of the data done in an attempt to suggest changes
> that have never occurred. We sometimes call this
> sort of behavior LYING!!!
>
> > Has there been anything which explains the
> amount of increase?
>
> Good question. I wonder why Math Whiz Boy never
> asked or answered it.


Agreed I posted one number from the wrong set of calculations when providing the FCPS figures.
I have no side, there's no falsification. It was just change over time increase versus change from previous increase.

160,697 June 2002

163,593 June 2007 +2,896

177,435 June 2012 +16,738

183,231 June 2014 +22,534

It's just data from the public school websites in Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William and anyone can look it up and run the numbers.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: knockout ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:01AM

Students in FCPS are one thing with it costs the system to educate them but the ones who don't graduate are the bigger cost.

The dropout numbers for white students is .47%
For hispanic students it's more than 7 times that rate at 3.33%.
The dropout for blacks is less than half the hispanics at 1.51%

Dropouts cost more and return less.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: American Taxpayer ()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:33AM

as a tax paying American who has to fight tooth and nail for IEP and school services for my child who is a brain tumor survivor with medical impairments, I am outraged by this nonsense. if one of these illegals harmed a child or committed some other criminal act, I bet all these do-gooders would change their tunes in a NY minute! they are here ILLEGALLY. period. end of story. ILLEGAL is just that. send them somewhere else, I shudder to think that they are right down the street from my home and being taken care of when so many americans struggle every day to provide for their families!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 3GYwU ()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:36AM

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:51AM

Statistician Wrote:
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> A city with a long history of electing democrats
> is guaranteed to have a high murder rate. And no,
> there is never a rational lib response to this
> inconvenient truth. When you vote democrat,
> you're supporting murder.

And how have things worked out in proper cities with a long history of electing Republicans? You know, like er...um...ah...hmmm. It doesn't seem like there actually ARE any proper cities with a history of electing Republicans. This is perhaps because Republicans so thoroughly tend to fail whenever there is actually something more than the catching of dogs to be governed. Or perhaps it's because the GOP is really just the party of low-intelligence, low-information rural goobers, hicks, and hayseeds still stuck within a Laura Ingalls world and the bounds of outdated myth and superstition. Or maybe there's another explanation. Whatever the explanation is, the fact remains that where people tend to congregate, they also tend to elect Democrats.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Repot #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:01AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> It seems Prince William took steps it felt
> necessary and got the results to avoid having
> about 5,500 more students than they have now
> have.

No, they got potfuls of results that nobody wanted. The immigration ordinance was in effect for all of two months before it was gutted and the Great Apology Tour began instead. I wonder what the cost to remaining taxpayers was for printing up and passing out all those color glossy brochures about how they didn't really mean it and it was safe to work and shop in PWC once again.

> Prince William's growth rate reduced radically in
> those comparative time periods. The recent growth
> from 2012-2014 compared to 2002-2007 has been cut
> -86.68%.

Percents of percents again? Second derivatives may be interesting, but they certainly conceal quite a lot. Why are you trying to hide behind them? In my case, I believe that it's because you fully realize that you otherwise have no actual case to make here.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:10AM

Math-tastic Wrote:
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> FCPS annual enrollment growth rate increased by
> 370% in same time.

In case you missed it, actual FCPS membership has increased at a rate of just about 1.1% per year. A little lower than that prior to the Great Recession and a little higher than that since. Like those of Mark Twain's death, rumors of any sort of classroom flooding are greatly exaggerated.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Rport #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:23AM

IllegalIllegalIllegal... Wrote:
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> just to piss off irrational rage boy some more...

Dude, we all know that you can't either keep up or contribute here, but someone should step up and point out that your hair appears to be on fire.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Our little troll is back... ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:28AM

still flinging irrelevance.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:34AM

Panties all in a bunch Wrote:
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> I'm sorry that you're a pretentious asshole. Feel
> better now?

I'm fine as always, you ignorant prick-faced asshole.

> You certainly can validly compare dissimilar
> populations, and many other dissimilar things,
> without "adjustment."

> There may need to be some adjustment to specific
> data sets to make them comparable...

Contradict yourself much, goober? Face it. You don't know shit about this topic or any other topic that has come up in the thread. You're just a worthless dumbfuck asshole and nothing more.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:35AM

And I spewspewspew....

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:42AM

Schools Crippled Wrote:
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> FCPS has deteriorated dramatically over the last
> two decades.

How have you determined this? Would others following the same methodology be apt to arrive at the same or at least a similar conclusion?

> What is the school board doing? Undertaking a $5.6
> million project to change the school day when it
> is clear that there are many other costs (traffic
> etc.) associated with the change. This is the type
> of thing that is very frustrating to county
> taxpayers and home owners.

The push to change FCPS bell schedules arises from outside interests -- namely the dupes enslaved by the TEA Party-like reactionaries at SLEEP, Inc.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:52AM

Yep, I'm jewh8ter2. Same shit, different sock.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:03AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> Agreed I posted one number from the wrong set of
> calculations when providing the FCPS figures.

The fan club may not approve, but at least you are man enough to admit the obvious error when it is finally pointed out to you.

> I have no side, there's no falsification.

I would disagree. You continue to distort and misuse the data in attempts to support claims that are not valid. Actually independent observers and analysts do not succumb to such temptations.

> It was just change over time increase versus
> change from previous increase.

> 160,697 June 2002
> 163,593 June 2007 +2,896
> 177,435 June 2012 +16,738
> 183,231 June 2014 +22,534

> It's just data from the public school websites in
> Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William and anyone
> can look it up and run the numbers.

I am more than well aware of the source of the data, but you have even here put the data into a biased framework, one that leads readers toward the making of assumptions that are simply not warranted. The "shocking increases" suggested by what YOU have put into Column-3 are not a reflection of reality.

If you simply took the 160,697 membership from 2002 and expanded that by 1.1% per year, the result you would get for 2014 would be 183,241. Isn't that a fact?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Panties all up you ass ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:09AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Panties all in a bunch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm sorry that you're a pretentious asshole.
> Feel
> > better now?
>
> I'm fine as always, you ignorant prick-faced
> asshole.
>

Yes, you're doing a fine job of being a pretentious asshole. As always.


> > You certainly can validly compare dissimilar
> > populations, and many other dissimilar things,
> > without "adjustment."
>
> > There may need to be some adjustment to
> specific
> > data sets to make them comparable...
>
> Contradict yourself much, goober? Face it. You
> don't know shit about this topic or any other
> topic that has come up in the thread. You're just
> a worthless dumbfuck asshole and nothing more.

I know that, as much as you hate the reality and try to obscure it with bullshit, the fact is that immigrant graduation rates and particularly Hispanic rates significantly lag those of non-immigrants. Why you'd even be arguing the fact beyond just being your usual asshole self, I don't know.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:23AM

Because I can.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:27AM

American Taxpayer Wrote:
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> as a tax paying American who has to fight tooth
> and nail for IEP and school services for my child
> who is a brain tumor survivor with medical
> impairments, I am outraged by this nonsense.

Blow it out your ass, Miss Piggy. The taxes of immigrant workers are paying the extra costs of your IEP and the special attention and assistance your child receives on account of his/her special needs. Which is of course exactly what should happen. Just as kids for whom English is a second language should be receiving special attention and assistance. What's good for the goose...

> If one of these illegals harmed a child or committed
> some other criminal act, I bet all these do-gooders
> would change their tunes in a NY minute!

Fuck off, bitch. Nobody advocates immunity from criminal prosecution for anyone. The problem here is all the redneck goober assholes who want to treat all vaguely Hispanic-looking people (and often enough all vaguely Middle Eastern-looking people as well) as if they were criminals. Get the fuck off the pot with that total nonsense, moron-woman.

> they are here ILLEGALLY. period. end of story.
> ILLEGAL is just that.

Do you know what a status-crime is, dearie? It's what the Nazis did to the Jews, and -- kind of ironically -- it's what Israel often does to Palestinians. Make it a law that people you don't like need to have a piece of paper just to walk around. Then make the pieces of paper scarce. Then complain that all these people without papers are evil lawbreakers. It's a phony shell-game. A third-grader should be able to see through it.

> I shudder to think that they are right down
> the street from my home and being taken care
> of when so many americans struggle every day
> to provide for their families!

Seriously? Then you are one clueless dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:29AM

I've got talking points. Goober assholes.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:39AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> And I spewspewspew....

LOLOLOLOLOL!!! As if ANYONE would mistake a worthless whimpering fucktard for the actual man behind the actual handle. Stupid assfuck. But thanks for playing and all...
.
Attachments:
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ah, antisemitism in every thread ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:50AM

Courtesy of Asshole #9 and Zyklon B.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:02AM

Panties all up you ass Wrote:
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> Yes, you're doing a fine job of being a
> pretentious asshole. As always.

Perhaps oddly and perhaps not, total dumbfucks often seem to believe that those with capacities and capabilities broadly and vastly superior to their own are somehow being "pretentious". It's like a goober trait to think that or something. Like the people who regularly beat the crap out of them at sports or pool or poker or whatever are all just a bunch of "showoffs". Isn't that right, Envy-Boy?

> I know that, as much as you hate the reality and
> try to obscure it with bullshit, the fact is that
> immigrant graduation rates and particularly
> Hispanic rates significantly lag those of
> non-immigrants.

No one has disagreed with that, you mindless assfuck. The problems come from the ignorant racist asshole fucktard conclusions you draw from that, all the while claiming not yourself to be an ignorant racist asshole fucktard.

> Why you'd even be arguing the fact beyond just being
> your usual asshole self, I don't know.

Let's face it, dumbfuck. The list of things you don't know is super-long. No one -- least of all yourself -- should be surprised in the least by the event of your not knowing something.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: MarkMcW ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:09AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> If you simply took the 160,697 membership from
> 2002 and expanded that by 1.1% per year, the
> result you would get for 2014 would be 183,241.
> Isn't that a fact?

Then why does FCPS keep asking for so much more money?
Or could it be 1%+ of a big number compounded each year is a lot of growth?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: StickItBarry ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:10AM

Most Voters Want to Send Latest Illegal Immigrants Home ASAP

Thursday, July 17, 2014

Most voters don’t want any of the young illegal immigrants who’ve recently arrived here housed in their state and say any legislation passed by Congress to deal with the problem should focus on sending them home as soon as possible.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the primary focus of any new immigration legislation passed by Congress should be to send the young illegal immigrants back home as quickly as possible. Just 27% say it should focus instead on making it easier for these illegal immigrants to remain in the United States. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Full story here:


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2014/most_voters_want_to_send_latest_illegal_immigrants_home_asap

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Panties stuffed in your mouth ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:22AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Panties all up you ass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, you're doing a fine job of being a
> > pretentious asshole. As always.
>
> Perhaps oddly and perhaps not, total dumbfucks
> often seem to believe that those with capacities
> and capabilities broadly and vastly superior to
> their own are somehow being "pretentious". It's
> like a goober trait to think that or something.
> Like the people who regularly beat the crap out of
> them at sports or pool or poker or whatever are
> all just a bunch of "showoffs". Isn't that right,
> Envy-Boy?


Oh yeah, I've always wanted to be a pretentious asshole. lol

I happily concede the title for that one to you. Congrats, you're King of Assholes.


>
> > I know that, as much as you hate the reality
> and
> > try to obscure it with bullshit, the fact is
> that
> > immigrant graduation rates and particularly
> > Hispanic rates significantly lag those of
> > non-immigrants.
>
> No one has disagreed with that, you mindless
> assfuck. The problems come from the ignorant
> racist asshole fucktard conclusions you draw from
> that, all the while claiming not yourself to be an
> ignorant racist asshole fucktard.


Actually you did.

>
> > Why you'd even be arguing the fact beyond just
> being
> > your usual asshole self, I don't know.
>
> Let's face it, dumbfuck. The list of things you
> don't know is super-long. No one -- least of all
> yourself -- should be surprised in the least by
> the event of your not knowing something.


I know that you're a pretentious asshole. As does everyone else here. As does everyone else in your miserable life.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:28AM

MarkMcW Wrote:
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> Then why does FCPS keep asking for so much more money?

So much more money??? Plainly, you don't even understand the question.

> Or could it be 1%+ of a big number compounded each
> year is a lot of growth?

Well, in this case it led to an increase of 22,544 students over the course of 12 years, an average of 1,879 new students per year. The point, however, was that some of the rates being bandied about by partisans earlier were gross distortions of reality.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:30AM

StickItBarry Wrote:
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> Most Voters Want to Send Latest Illegal Immigrants
> Home ASAP

Are these the same people who were so sure that there were WMD in Iraq? Maybe we should follow the founders and learn not to ask these people very many questions.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: I love me some illegals... er, ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:37AM


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