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Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: seallb ()
Date: July 14, 2014 12:36PM

Hold on here. I thought it was supposed to be all about those
nasty people in PW County enforcing their illegal immigration policy.
Thanks Sharoom Bullover and Gerry "Conman" Connolly.




The record flood of Central American children crossing the U.S. border is stretching funds and setting off improvisation at public schools.

While politicians spend the summer fighting over how to turn back the tide, school leaders across the country are struggling to absorb a new student population the size of Newark, New Jersey. More than 40,000 children, many of them fresh from violent, harrowing journeys, have been released since October to stateside relatives as courts process their cases.

"These kids were homesick and heartbroken," said Robin Hamby, a family specialist for Fairfax County Public Schools in suburban Washington, which began feeling the surge almost as soon as it began three years ago.

Her Virginia district employs more teachers who work with non-English speakers than ever, and wrote a curriculum to reunite children and parents, many of whom haven't seen one another in years. Houston is increasing training and translation. Los Angeles nurses are working overtime to screen for emotional trauma created on the journey north.

Full story here:


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-us-classrooms-prepare-for-flood-as-migrants-become-pupils-20140712%2c0%2c4201836.story

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: GCMb3 ()
Date: July 14, 2014 01:12PM

seallb Wrote:
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> "These kids were homesick and heartbroken," said
> Robin Hamby, a family specialist for Fairfax
> County Public Schools in suburban Washington,
> which began feeling the surge almost as soon as it
> began three years ago.

Well if they're so homesick, send them back home to Mexico. Problem solved!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gatehouse ()
Date: July 14, 2014 01:16PM

Robin Hamby is wrong. There is no illegal immigrant problem in Fairfax County. We do not count them so they do not exist. They do not affect class size nor take resources away from other educational needs.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dV7Vm ()
Date: July 14, 2014 01:25PM

seallb Wrote:
> "These kids were homesick and heartbroken," said
> Robin Hamby, a family specialist for Fairfax

yes everytime you assert we are the devil with those magic words we are your slaves. Robin fairfax, targeting anyone not a democrat and your own too as well, is the picture i've taken

yes VA ham is now owned by china thanks to democrats

pain your nursery room you made for a future child BLACK, because democrats are going to have your baby for you - and blame you for it

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: johnny ringo ()
Date: July 14, 2014 01:53PM

Typical class of 2020 in any FFX County elementary school.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: so what ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:21PM

you scared for the future

are pablo and maria going to take away all the jobs from Johnny and Suzie

oh wait Kanisha Shakur and Katie Lee already do that lol

whites days are numbered bitches

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ddo ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:25PM

Interesting tidbit on Corey Stewart's Facebook page. He's tracking down where the illegals are being detained in PW County. How long before Sharoom does the same?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Section_8_Sharon ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:28PM

Ddo Wrote:
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> Interesting tidbit on Corey Stewart's Facebook
> page. He's tracking down where the illegals are
> being detained in PW County. How long before
> Sharoom does the same?


Except that Sharon will offer to wash their feet.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: LOL... ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:29PM

so what Wrote:
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> whites days are numbered bitches

And ain't the little weenies whining over it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pick up the phone, call Tyronne ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:33PM

LOL... Wrote:
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> so what Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > whites days are numbered bitches
>
> And ain't the little weenies whining over it.


Might want to let the brothers know.

They'll be in worse shape as a result much more so than whites.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: LOL... ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:36PM

Pick up the phone, call Tyronne Wrote:
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> Might want to let the brothers know. They'll be in
> worse shape as a result much more so than whites.

No, it's everybody else against you palefaces. Get ready to eat some shit, whitey. Paybacks are...well, you know.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Lashinda's old job called ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:46PM

LOL... Wrote:
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> Pick up the phone, call Tyronne Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Might want to let the brothers know. They'll be
> in
> > worse shape as a result much more so than
> whites.
>
> No, it's everybody else against you palefaces.
> Get ready to eat some shit, whitey. Paybacks
> are...well, you know.


Nope, it's not. They're not taking my job, driving down my wages, or raising costs in my neighborhood. They are taking theirs. And they're starting to understand that.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hahatoomuch ()
Date: July 14, 2014 02:47PM

so funny this double edged sword.
non-whites flood in record numbers to get away from their own culture.
Get to the US and do everything to pretend they are still in the culture they fled.

Then say joke is on whites cause they will soon be minorities... but isn't the joke on everyone cause the country you fled to will soon be like the one you fled FROM?

just move here, and cut ties with your past and all would be perfect it's not about your skin color it's about your lack of interest in keep the USA the country you desired to come to.

so short sighted.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: the new world order ()
Date: July 14, 2014 03:08PM

Asians (Rich/nicest parts of Farifax)

Whites (Loudoun County and Middle Class Fairfax)

Hispanics (Crappy areas of Fairfax)

Blacks (PG Ghetto and worse)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pedro Johnson ()
Date: July 14, 2014 03:41PM

the new world order Wrote:
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> Asians (Rich/nicest parts of Farifax)
>
> Whites (Loudoun County and Middle Class Fairfax)
>
> Hispanics (Crappy areas of Fairfax)
>
> Blacks (PG Ghetto and worse)

Hispanics have taken over parts of PG County too. Been to College Park lately?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dsgjfa7634w5fhj ()
Date: July 14, 2014 03:46PM

This was posted in the off topic section today. Blacks will feel the pain far worse than whites or asians.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/14/obama-slammed-worst-president-ever-black-chicagoan/

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ColumbiaPikeCommando ()
Date: July 14, 2014 04:33PM

I can't help but wonder if Gerry and Sharon have known this all along but didn't say anything.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Democrat ()
Date: July 14, 2014 04:50PM

As long as they learn English. We will be happy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: so did you just get here!? ()
Date: July 14, 2014 04:56PM

ColumbiaPikeCommando Wrote:
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> I can't help but wonder if Gerry and Sharon have
> known this all along but didn't say anything.


Know anything about it? are you really that stupid, they orchestrated it. They cant come up with the extra money and programs fast enough to make sure everyone gets their free shit.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: sal ()
Date: July 14, 2014 05:16PM

Democrat Wrote:
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> As long as they learn English. We will be happy.

We? You got a turd in your pocket?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Hey Assholes... ()
Date: July 14, 2014 06:57PM

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Can't wait for it. ()
Date: July 14, 2014 07:06PM

so what Wrote:
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> you scared for the future
>
> are pablo and maria going to take away all the
> jobs from Johnny and Suzie
>
> oh wait Kanisha Shakur and Katie Lee already do
> that lol
>
> whites days are numbered bitches


When whitey is gone, who going to pay your bills? it sure as fuck ain't gonna be the Negroes.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Hey Assholes ()
Date: July 14, 2014 07:11PM

Can't wait for it. Wrote:
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> When whitey is gone, who going to pay your bills?
> it sure as fuck ain't gonna be the Negroes.

None of you asswipe racist dumbfucks makes enough money to pay any taxes. It's the people you hate who do all the paying.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: the realist ()
Date: July 14, 2014 07:17PM

Hey Assholes Wrote:
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> Can't wait for it. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When whitey is gone, who going to pay your
> bills?
> > it sure as fuck ain't gonna be the Negroes.
>
> None of you asswipe racist dumbfucks makes enough
> money to pay any taxes. It's the people you hate
> who do all the paying.


Have you been to an emergency room lately? Illegal spics with no insurance flood the place, someone's paying for those dirty filthy people.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 14, 2014 07:28PM

the realist Wrote:
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> Have you been to an emergency room lately? Illegal
> spics with no insurance flood the place, someone's
> paying for those dirty filthy people.

Fucking moron. You have no idea in the world of who is illegal and who is not or who has insurance and who does not. You are just a big fucking asshole who shoots his damned fool mouth off anyway. Worthless shit-for-brains fucktard. In actuality, because of the risks inherent in their status, illegals try to have as little to do with "the system" as they possibly can. The Hispanics you see in an ER waiting room are legal and most of them have some form of insurance.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: YOU'RE A STUPID FUCK ()
Date: July 14, 2014 08:13PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> the realist Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Have you been to an emergency room lately?
> Illegal
> > spics with no insurance flood the place,
> someone's
> > paying for those dirty filthy people.
>
> Fucking moron. You have no idea in the world of
> who is illegal and who is not or who has insurance
> and who does not. You are just a big fucking
> asshole who shoots his damned fool mouth off
> anyway. Worthless shit-for-brains fucktard. In
> actuality, because of the risks inherent in their
> status, illegals try to have as little to do with
> "the system" as they possibly can. The Hispanics
> you see in an ER waiting room are legal and most
> of them have some form of insurance.

And you know this how? Are you checking everyone for immigration status and insurance before they come in to the ER? Didn't think so.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: igetitnow ()
Date: July 14, 2014 08:19PM

So the illegals are being allowed to come here to push out the black people? Basically take over all the lower-class jobs so there are none left for black people? In hopes that black people will rage and try to kill each other in frustration as well as come after all other races then you can quickly lock them all up/death penalty? And the prison industry wins even more? Business owners win because they get even cheaper labor since they don't have to pay black people/affirmative action? You just use that to get more asians and hispanics promoted instead? Am I getting this right? Is this the big secret plan?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: sounds good ()
Date: July 14, 2014 08:27PM

Getting rid of the lazy blacks would be a very good start. Then target the illegals.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Nig Nog ()
Date: July 14, 2014 08:53PM

igetitnow Wrote:
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> So the illegals are being allowed to come here to
> push out the black people? Basically take over all
> the lower-class jobs so there are none left for
> black people? In hopes that black people will rage
> and try to kill each other in frustration as well
> as come after all other races then you can quickly
> lock them all up/death penalty? And the prison
> industry wins even more? Business owners win
> because they get even cheaper labor since they
> don't have to pay black people/affirmative action?
> You just use that to get more asians and hispanics
> promoted instead? Am I getting this right? Is this
> the big secret plan?


Yes, just look at the current demorgraphic make-up in LA in what used to be "historically black" neighborhoods.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Fact enema for the asshole ()
Date: July 14, 2014 08:54PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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>
> Fucking moron. You have no idea in the world of
> who is illegal and who is not or who has insurance
> and who does not. You are just a big fucking
> asshole who shoots his damned fool mouth off
> anyway. Worthless shit-for-brains fucktard. In
> actuality, because of the risks inherent in their
> status, illegals try to have as little to do with
> "the system" as they possibly can. The Hispanics
> you see in an ER waiting room are legal and most
> of them have some form of insurance.


Bullshit. Have you looked at the Emergency Medicaid costs lately? +$2 billion/year, 99% of which is illegals. That's just the emergency Medicaid costs not State and private costs and all of the rest which are many times that.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 14, 2014 09:07PM

Fact enema for the asshole Wrote:
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> Bullshit. Have you looked at the Emergency
> Medicaid costs lately? +$2 billion/year, 99% of
> which is illegals. That's just the emergency
> Medicaid costs not State and private costs and all
> of the rest which are many times that.

You're peeing all over yourself here, you ignorant racist dumbfuck. First of all, Medicaid is a form of health insurance. Second of all, you have to apply and meet both state and federal residency and citizenship requirements. Useless dork-brained asshole hasn't got the first fucking clue of what he's talking about. Just a total asshat waste of time and space.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Eric the actor ()
Date: July 14, 2014 09:09PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> You're peeing all over yourself here, you ignorant
> racist dumbfuck. First of all, Medicaid is a form
> of health insurance. Second of all, you have to
> apply and meet both state and federal residency
> and citizenship requirements. Useless
> dork-brained asshole hasn't got the first fucking
> clue of what he's talking about. Just a total
> asshat waste of time and space.


Don't you have a lawn to mow?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 14, 2014 09:16PM

Eric the actor Wrote:
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> Don't you have a lawn to mow?

It's dark outside. Fucking idiots.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Fact enema for the asshole ()
Date: July 14, 2014 09:35PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Fact enema for the asshole Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bullshit. Have you looked at the Emergency
> > Medicaid costs lately? +$2 billion/year, 99%
> of
> > which is illegals. That's just the emergency
> > Medicaid costs not State and private costs and
> all
> > of the rest which are many times that.
>
> You're peeing all over yourself here, you ignorant
> racist dumbfuck. First of all, Medicaid is a form
> of health insurance.

So your lame attempt to justify your bullshit is that Medicaid which illegals leech off of is 'insurance?' LOL!

> Second of all, you have to
> apply and meet both state and federal residency
> and citizenship requirements. Useless
> dork-brained asshole hasn't got the first fucking
> clue of what he's talking about. Just a total
> asshat waste of time and space.


Wrong shit for brains.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2013/february/13/medicaid-illegal-immigrant-emergency-care.aspx

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Thanks For The Heads Up ()
Date: July 14, 2014 09:42PM

>whites days are numbered bitches Like it will help with Democrats as in the "Asshole Reporter" The #1 Shill on FXU under many names.


Oh yes Obamacare does not cover illegals does it ?? Thats why hospitols are losing money around here. Take a peek at Arlington Hospitol. they come in give anybodys apt number bogus name then there gone.

Send the illegals back home despite the Assholes rants, we cant take care of the world.

Asshole you are free to spend Your money on the illegals, Not Mine or anyone else's

Why dont you advocate things AMERICANS NEED not aid for illegals.


"dumbfuck,dork brained asshole, racist dumbfuck,fucktard, asswipe"

The Democratic Party Poster Child with the nicest things to say..

Listen Asshole, its time for you to flush yourself down the sewer drain.. again.. You Turd, You need to stop posting and eat something..

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: more tax ()
Date: July 14, 2014 09:58PM

vote for the meals tax so we can continue the support

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: WTHolyF ()
Date: July 15, 2014 02:25AM

@Asshole Report #14... If you had anything legitimate to add to the conversation you wouldn't resort to all the swearing at the opposition. You must be a libtard who doesn't have an opinion of his own, but is simply regurgitating the libtard talking points. So have a Nice Fucking Day!!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hmmmm ()
Date: July 15, 2014 02:37AM

Why are so many North Arlington schools inundated with hispanics that one such elementary school in clarendon became bilingual?? (including me a hispanic) who went to those North Arlington schools?

the new world order Wrote:
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> Asians (Rich/nicest parts of Farifax)
>
> Whites (Loudoun County and Middle Class Fairfax)
>
> Hispanics (Crappy areas of Fairfax)
>
> Blacks (PG Ghetto and worse)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Are you asian????? ()
Date: July 15, 2014 02:40AM

I think Asians basically like mostly Asian communities (Annandale) or intermingling with Whites and moving closer to them. A lot though live in mixed neighborhoods. If you do see an Asian family living in a huge house they are typically living with their whole family even the grandma.

hmmmm Wrote:
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> Why are so many North Arlington schools inundated
> with hispanics that one such elementary school in
> clarendon became bilingual?? (including me a
> hispanic) who went to those North Arlington
> schools?
>
> the new world order Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Asians (Rich/nicest parts of Farifax)
> >
> > Whites (Loudoun County and Middle Class
> Fairfax)
> >
> > Hispanics (Crappy areas of Fairfax)
> >
> > Blacks (PG Ghetto and worse)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Edelstein424 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:51AM

So there's this =

More than one-third of the 13,424 kindergartners in the county this year qualified for free or reduced-price meals, a federal measure of poverty, and close to 40 percent of the Class of 2026 requires additional English instruction, among the most ever for a Fairfax kindergarten class.

and this =

During the past five years, costs for English language instruction increased by more than $18 million, and elementary school teachers say they spend an increasing amount of their time on remedial education.

and this =

At Springfield’s Lynbrook Elementary, 502 out of the 637 students speak Spanish at home, school records show, and 89 percent of those Spanish-speaking children were born in the United States.

“We’re all ESOL teachers here,” said Principal Mary McNamee, noting that literacy has become central to the school’s curriculum.

and this =

School officials said there is evidence that some immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.

“People were driven out of Prince William by the intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet for people who want to live in a tolerant society.”

more =

Kevin Sneed, director of construction and planning for the school system, said the rise in enrollment in recent years has created capacity issues, leading the schools to use more than 990 trailers for extra classroom space. At many schools, supply closets have been transformed into miniature food banks for children who come to school hungry and return home at the end of the day to homes with bare cupboards.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Cpy ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:09AM

Edelstein424 Wrote:
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> So there's this =
>
> More than one-third of the 13,424 kindergartners
> in the county this year qualified for free or
> reduced-price meals, a federal measure of poverty,
> and close to 40 percent of the Class of 2026
> requires additional English instruction, among the
> most ever for a Fairfax kindergarten class.
>
> and this =
>
> During the past five years, costs for English
> language instruction increased by more than $18
> million, and elementary school teachers say they
> spend an increasing amount of their time on
> remedial education.
>
> and this =
>
> At Springfield’s Lynbrook Elementary, 502 out of
> the 637 students speak Spanish at home, school
> records show, and 89 percent of those
> Spanish-speaking children were born in the United
> States.
>
> “We’re all ESOL teachers here,” said
> Principal Mary McNamee, noting that literacy has
> become central to the school’s curriculum.
>
> and this =
>
> School officials said there is evidence that some
> immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince
> William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school
> system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic
> students between 2008 and 2014.
>
> “People were driven out of Prince William by the
> intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said.
> “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody
> here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet
> for people who want to live in a tolerant
> society.”
>
> more =
>
> Kevin Sneed, director of construction and planning
> for the school system, said the rise in enrollment
> in recent years has created capacity issues,
> leading the schools to use more than 990 trailers
> for extra classroom space. At many schools, supply
> closets have been transformed into miniature food
> banks for children who come to school hungry and
> return home at the end of the day to homes with
> bare cupboards.
>
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-f
> airfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-
> future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-1
> 1e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html


Velkoff is full of shit.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: AMERICA IS DONE ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:28AM

America is HIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

I don't plan on being around this country when I retire. I already have plans to move to another country where they don't have this problem. Actually 3 countries have my interest. I've done the research on them and now have to decide which one to move to. I've compared the problems here in the U.S. and these countries do not have that problem. Another 10 years and I'm out of here! Will renounce my ciitzenship also.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Si Si Puede! ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:59AM

It is so good to hear the home language every time I go by the school! Gracias!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FfxCtyTaxpayer61 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:59AM

School officials said there is evidence that some immigrant families moved to Fairfax after Prince William’s law took effect; the Fairfax school system experienced an increase of 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.

“People were driven out of Prince William by the intolerance shown in that film,” Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms. I’m happy to be a magnet for people who want to live in a tolerant society.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html


The Fairfax Board of Education Member Velkoff for FCPS is happy to be a magnet with our tax money and wants to have a meals tax too to get more?

What on earth is happening in Fairfax? This is crazy and will push out all the older homeowners who won't be able to afford to stay.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: bbutttt all the taxes'n'shit... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:02AM

'cause moar people = moar taxes!!!
Or something. Jewh8ter2 will be here shortly to 'splain it all...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Rport #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:08AM

Fact enema for the asshole Wrote:
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> So your lame attempt to justify your bullshit is
> that Medicaid which illegals leech off of is
> 'insurance?' LOL!

Correct, you hideous dumbfuck. People with Medicaid are A) not illegal, and B) not uninsured. What a total fucking asshole you are!

> Wrong shit for brains.

Attention asshole. Emergency medical care -- such as for pregnant women about to deliver -- is provided on the same basis to EVERYONE. Immigration status has fucking nothing to do with it you fucking moron. How fucking stupid can one person be? Seriously!

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Posted by: asshole report = jewh8ter ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:20AM

Same attempts to conflate or misinform.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:25AM

Thanks For The Heads Up Wrote:
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> Like it will help with Democrats as in the
> "Asshole Reporter" The #1 Shill on FXU under
> many names.

Seems to have earned that ranking by kicking the living shit out of uneducated total dumbfucks and assholes such as yourself, you low-life worthless scumbag.

> Take a peek at Arlington Hospitol. they come
> in give anybodys apt number bogus name then there
> gone.

It's the fucking Virginia Hospital Center, you worthless moron, and there are at least four errors in that single fucking sentence. Ignorant fucking dorkbrained asshole.

> Asshole you are free to spend Your money on the
> illegals, Not Mine or anyone else's

Pay your taxes, bitch-boy. Insignificant as the amounts might be to most people.

> Why dont you advocate things AMERICANS NEED not
> aid for illegals.

Why don't you grow up and stop behaving like the fucking equivalent of a soiled diaper.

> Listen Asshole, its time for you to flush
> yourself down the sewer drain.. again.. You Turd,
> You need to stop posting and eat something..

Go fuck yourself, asswipe clown boy. You don't have a single worthwhile thing to say. Never have, never will. Too fucking STUPID by a very long shot.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: yep, same leftist troll ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:29AM

Should try to mix up the terms a bit...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: pNTm6 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:29AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Thanks For The Heads Up Wrote:

> > Asshole you are free to spend Your money on the
> > illegals, Not Mine or anyone else's

+1

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:30AM

more tax Wrote:
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> vote for the meals tax so we can continue the support

You'll have to wait a few years for that, dumbass. Meanwhile, real estate taxes 100% paid by county residents will go up. That's so much better than having tourists, commuters, and business travelers pitch in a nice chunk of the needed change for us. You people are SUCH fucking assholes!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:32AM

WTHolyF Wrote:
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> @Asshole Report #14... If you had anything
> legitimate to add to the conversation you wouldn't
> resort to all the swearing at the opposition. You
> must be a libtard who doesn't have an opinion of
> his own, but is simply regurgitating the libtard
> talking points. So have a Nice Fucking Day!!!!

LOL! Go fuck yourself, little boy You've been a virgin long enough.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: PnbFX ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:33AM

pNTm6 Wrote:
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> Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks For The Heads Up Wrote:
>
> > > Asshole you are free to spend Your money on
> the
> > > illegals, Not Mine or anyone else's
>
> +1

do not forget that if a gov worker 3x-15x pay they had been uses foreign labor to cheapen work on their home: that's your money too.... it isn't good enough for them to be paid more, they extend this hellish advantage by denying you even the decency of sweating to recover that tax money by labor.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:51AM

Cpy Wrote:
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> Velkoff is full of shit.

It was Prince William County that was full of shit. Their idiotic racism was a gigantic step backwards and slap-in-the-face blowback failure. Their ignorant nativist show-boating ended up costing them tens of millions in lost revenues and property values. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! They've now had to spend years trying to convince people they didn't really mean it. Seems to be working out okay, as PWC is now more than 20% Hispanic with white-only now being a minority. LOL!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: more people good to a point ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:56AM

^And that is why the gov workers are not getting raises and why they get sequestered and why they are not replacing those who retire and why we have gone into a downward spiral . . .

We need people who pay taxes and not people who don't. It's not going to get any better with the baby boom retiring and paying less in taxes (unless we get more higher paying jobs in the economy). The retirees will leave the area and will be replaced with people who need more local (ie. school) services. Many of those replacements look like immigrants. This could be wonderful, but it sounds somewhat unbalanced in the near term.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:04PM

AMERICA IS DONE Wrote:
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> I don't plan on being around this country when I
> retire. I already have plans to move to another
> country where they don't have this problem.
> Actually 3 countries have my interest. I've done
> the research on them and now have to decide which
> one to move to. I've compared the problems here
> in the U.S. and these countries do not have that
> problem. Another 10 years and I'm out of here!
> Will renounce my ciitzenship also.

Why don't you list these countries so we can make fun of your choices? Or are you really just day-dreaming based on some typical Heritage Foundation bullshit?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: don't paint PWC with one brush ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:05PM

"It was Prince William County that was full of shit. Their idiotic racism was a gigantic step backwards and slap-in-the-face blowback failure. Their ignorant nativist show-boating ended up costing them tens of millions in lost revenues and property values. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! They've now had to spend years trying to convince people they didn't really mean it. Seems to be working out okay, as PWC is now more than 20% Hispanic with white-only now being a minority. LOL!"

What cost them money was the Great Recession and the property values went down because many of the houses there were sold to Hispanics who got the liars' loans and didn't know what they were doing (basically they got duped by lenders). What happened is that the native population got upset about the reduced values caused by the funky loans and blamed the illegals for the problems. That is probably not fair, but the legal hispanics don't have any problem there. Nobody is trying to kick out legal immigrants and there are plenty of them in PWC and they have no reason to leave. Many are US citizens. They can go anywhere as this is their country. It's more economical to live down there. Bottom line.

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Posted by: LOL at "True the Vote" ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:06PM

asshole report = jewh8ter Wrote:
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> Same attempts to conflate or misinform.

Drop dead, asshole!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-00781 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:08PM

yep, same leftist troll Wrote:
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> Should try to mix up the terms a bit...

So nothing else to say again. Just the same old goober whining and mewling. What a fucking worthless dipshit!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Master of Reality... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:25PM

Dems have dropped "immigration" as a talking point. Didn't you get the memo?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:32PM

don't paint PWC with one brush Wrote:
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> What cost them money was the Great Recession and
> the property values went down because many of the
> houses there were sold to Hispanics who got the
> liars' loans and didn't know what they were doing
> (basically they got duped by lenders).

Fucking fairy tale. The Great Recession was everywhere. It was only in moron PWC that hispanic-owned businesses shut down and fled whether they were legal or not. It was only PWC that area shoppers who had a choice no longer visited. Just as PWC residents themselves chose to take their business to neighboring counties instead. The anti-immigrant ordinance was a giant and still visible black-eye for PWC and a very costly failure.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BF&P ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:41PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> don't paint PWC with one brush Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What cost them money was the Great Recession
> and
> > the property values went down because many of
> the
> > houses there were sold to Hispanics who got the
> > liars' loans and didn't know what they were
> doing
> > (basically they got duped by lenders).
>
> Fucking fairy tale. The Great Recession was
> everywhere. It was only in moron PWC that
> hispanic-owned businesses shut down and fled
> whether they were legal or not. It was only PWC
> that area shoppers who had a choice no longer
> visited. Just as PWC residents themselves chose
> to take their business to neighboring counties
> instead. The anti-immigrant ordinance was a giant
> and still visible black-eye for PWC and a very
> costly failure.

Bullshit. We need to do the same here in Fairfax. Enough of this illegal lunacy and send them all back where they came from.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Something brown on your head ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:45PM

Asshole Rport #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Fact enema for the asshole Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So your lame attempt to justify your bullshit
> is
> > that Medicaid which illegals leech off of is
> > 'insurance?' LOL!
>
> Correct, you hideous dumbfuck. People with
> Medicaid are A) not illegal, and B) not uninsured.
> What a total fucking asshole you are!
>

Wrong. As the Kaiser article and many others explain, emergency Medicaid as well as various state implementations of Medicaid are available to and very heavily used by illegals. And Medicaid is not 'insurance' in that form. It is the exact opposite - funding provided to defray costs for services where they do not have insurance.

> > Wrong shit for brains.
>
> Attention asshole. Emergency medical care -- such
> as for pregnant women about to deliver -- is
> provided on the same basis to EVERYONE.
> Immigration status has fucking nothing to do with
> it you fucking moron. How fucking stupid can one
> person be? Seriously!

Except that it's not since illegals are the primary group which use those funds. Along with others like CHIP and Migrant Health Centers which primarily serve them.

http://www.undocumentedpatients.org/issuebrief/health-policy-and-access-to-care/

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Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:46PM

Master of Reality... Wrote:
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> Dems have dropped "immigration" as a talking
> point. Didn't you get the memo?

Immigration is an ISSUE. Has been since even before the days of Ronnie "The Napper" Reagan. It will continue to be an issue until we can establish a comprehensive normalization of the immigration process. But because there is no such solution that does not include what a bunch of worthless RACIST ASSHOLES will see as amnesty or a pathway to citizenship, such a solution may be a long time coming. This is what happens when the truly stupid people are allowed to have a say in things. Meanwhile, millions of new immigrants will be coming into the country. That much is a given. Whether we react to that rationally is most definitely not a sure thing at all.

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Posted by: Canoe ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:49PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Master of Reality... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dems have dropped "immigration" as a talking
> > point. Didn't you get the memo?
>
> Immigration is an ISSUE. Has been since even
> before the days of Ronnie "The Napper" Reagan. It
> will continue to be an issue until we can
> establish a comprehensive normalization of the
> immigration process. But because there is no such
> solution that does not include what a bunch of
> worthless RACIST ASSHOLES will see as amnesty or a
> pathway to citizenship, such a solution may be a
> long time coming. This is what happens when the
> truly stupid people are allowed to have a say in
> things. Meanwhile, millions of new immigrants
> will be coming into the country. That much is a
> given. Whether we react to that rationally is
> most definitely not a sure thing at all.

Fuck the illegals.

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Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 12:53PM

BF&P Wrote:
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> Bullshit. We need to do the same here in Fairfax.
> Enough of this illegal lunacy and send them all
> back where they came from.

Right, the fact that enacting stupid dumbass emotion-driven legislation turned into a gigantic and costly failure for PWC does not mean that the same thing would happen here. Maybe we are different. Or maybe you are just another stupid ignorant racist dumbfuck. I think I'm going to have to go with Option-B on this one.

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Posted by: Asshole Report $14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 01:19PM

Something brown on your head Wrote:
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> Wrong. As the Kaiser article and many others
> explain, emergency Medicaid as well as various
> state implementations of Medicaid are available to
> and very heavily used by illegals.

The first fucking sentence in the report states that illegals do not have access to Medicaid, you useless dumbass fucktard.

> And Medicaid is not 'insurance' in that form. It
> is the exact opposite - funding provided to defray
> costs for services where they do not have insurance.

So, it's insurance against not having insurance? My God, you are a colossal fucking moron. People covered under Medicaid are not uninsured. Asshole!

> Except that it's not since illegals are the
> primary group which use those funds. Along with
> others like CHIP and Migrant Health Centers which
> primarily serve them.

Actually, the Hastings Center also points out that undocumented immigrants are INELIGIBLE for Medicaid and most other state and federally-funded programs, you lying fucking asswipe. Here is a direct quote from the report you cited...

"With the excep­tion of emer­gency med­ical care, undoc­u­mented immi­grants are not eli­gi­ble for fed­er­ally funded pub­lic health insur­ance pro­grams, includ­ing Medicare, Med­ic­aid and the Child Health Insur­ance Pro­gram (CHIP).

Did you see them refer to Medicaid as a "health insurance program"? LOL! Your whole thesis here is based on a gigantic worthless farce of lies. This is because you yourself are just another gigantic worthless ignorant racist right-wing dumbfuck. So you can just go fuck yourself at any time here, you stupid useless lying asshole!

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Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 01:23PM

Canoe Wrote:
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> Fuck the illegals.

LOL! That ACTUALLY IS the most intelligent thing you could come up with, isn't it! What a bunch of pathetic fucking goober-yahoos.

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Posted by: comments ()
Date: July 15, 2014 01:36PM

One of the problems is that many people said that they would vote for immigration reform once the borders were sealed. This was years ago. So the building of a "wall" commenced. Now it seems that the "wall" did not really work so those people who said they would vote for reform now have a huge reason not to vote for said reform. Huge problem.

Also, arguing whether illegals get Medicaid, etc. is pointless. Anyone who shows up at an emergency room has to be treated. That is the law. If there is no insurance, etc., the hospitals "write if off" which means that the rest of us pay for it one way or another (through taxes or jacked up insurance premiums or both). The treatment is not "free".

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Posted by: Something brown on your head ()
Date: July 15, 2014 01:53PM

Asshole Report $14-0071 Wrote:
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> Something brown on your head Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wrong. As the Kaiser article and many others
> > explain, emergency Medicaid as well as various
> > state implementations of Medicaid are available
> to
> > and very heavily used by illegals.
>
> The first fucking sentence in the report states
> that illegals do not have access to Medicaid, you
> useless dumbass fucktard.
>
> > And Medicaid is not 'insurance' in that form.
> It
> > is the exact opposite - funding provided to
> defray
> > costs for services where they do not have
> insurance.
>
> So, it's insurance against not having insurance?
> My God, you are a colossal fucking moron. People
> covered under Medicaid are not uninsured.
> Asshole!
>

They are not covered under the normal Medicaid program. They ARE covered, as I said, under emergency Medicaid funding. Which is the whole point of the article titled "Medicaid Helps Hospitals Pay For Illegal Immigrants’ Care," you fucking asstard. As well as covered under various other state implementations and other Federal healthcare programs.


> > Except that it's not since illegals are the
> > primary group which use those funds. Along
> with
> > others like CHIP and Migrant Health Centers
> which
> > primarily serve them.
>
> Actually, the Hastings Center also points out that
> undocumented immigrants are INELIGIBLE for
> Medicaid and most other state and federally-funded
> programs, you lying fucking asswipe. Here is a
> direct quote from the report you cited...
>
> "With the excep­tion of emer­gency med­ical
> care, undoc­u­mented immi­grants are not
> eli­gi­ble for fed­er­ally funded pub­lic
> health insur­ance pro­grams, includ­ing
> Medicare, Med­ic­aid and the Child Health
> Insur­ance Pro­gram (CHIP).
>
> Did you see them refer to Medicaid as a "health
> insurance program"? LOL! Your whole thesis here
> is based on a gigantic worthless farce of lies.
> This is because you yourself are just another
> gigantic worthless ignorant racist right-wing
> dumbfuck. So you can just go fuck yourself at any
> time here, you stupid useless lying asshole!


Sorry dumbshit, your lame attempt to try to twist it isn't going to work. They receive support through emergency Medicaid funding. Emergency Medicaid funding is part of the Medicaid program. Therefore, they do, as the article goes on to explain, receive Medicaid funding. Specifically, Medicaid program funding which is not structured as 'insurance' but rather specifically as reimbursement where insurance is not present.

And if you'd read beyond the first paragraph you'd have come to another which explains that:

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"In addi­tion to EMTALA, it is also pos­si­ble for undoc­u­mented immi­grants to qual­ify for Med­ic­aid cov­er­age for emer­gency care. The def­i­n­i­tion of emer­gency care and the scope of ser­vices avail­able through the Med­ic­aid pro­grams vary by state. For exam­ple, in New York State Med­ic­aid for Emer­gency Care may be used to pro­vide chemother­apy and radi­a­tion ther­apy to undoc­u­mented patients with can­cer. In New York State, Cal­i­for­nia, and North Car­olina, it may be used to pro­vide out­pa­tient dial­y­sis to undoc­u­mented patients.15"

And another which provides examples of state funding provided:

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"Although fed­eral funds may not be used to pro­vide non-emergency health care to undoc­u­mented immi­grants, some states and local gov­ern­ments use their own funds to offer cov­er­age to undoc­u­mented chil­dren.3 For exam­ple, the Healthy Kids pro­gram in San Fran­cisco cov­ers unin­sured chil­dren under the age of 19, includ­ing undoc­u­mented chil­dren.4 Sim­i­larly, the All Kids pro­gram Illi­nois cov­ers all chil­dren under the age of 19 who meet pro­gram income require­ments, regard­less of immi­gra­tion sta­tus.5"

Along with exceptions which existed for those in a deferred status (i.e., still 'illegal' at the time) and "dreamers:"

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"In about half of the U.S. states, immi­grant chil­dren under the age of 21 and preg­nant woman who have been granted deferred action on their immi­gra­tion sta­tus are allowed to apply for Med­ic­aid and the CHIP or enroll in their state’s high risk insur­ance pool. An excep­tion to this, how­ever, are the so-called “dream­ers” – the esti­mated 1.7 mil­lion undoc­u­mented teenagers and young adults granted deferred action by the Obama Admin­is­tra­tion on June 15, 2012.7"

Along with non-reimbursed services provided under EMTALA, and through federally funded FQHCs, MHCs, etc.

You realize that people can just click on these links and read them for themselves versus your selective quotes right? lol

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Posted by: GuyNextDoor ()
Date: July 15, 2014 01:58PM

Our local politicians need to get their noses out of Obama's butt and do something to stop this nonsense.

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Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 02:27PM

comments Wrote:
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> One of the problems is that many people said that
> they would vote for immigration reform once the
> borders were sealed. This was years ago.

Yes, and it was plain that they were lying through their teeth at the time. These are racist and nativist bigots we are talking about here, after all. Nobody else would have been crude enough to believe that, even at $4 million per mile, a fence or wall was going to solve anybody's problem.

The real problem of course is that politicians of old drew a line right through the heart of a significant social, economic, and cultural zone. Expecting that people will actually be cognizant and respectful of that line is an example of simple pig-headed foolishness. It's not going to happen. The border will not be orderly until it becomes easier to come here and work legally than it is to come here and work illegally. Short of that, it's just going to be more of the same.

> Also, arguing whether illegals get Medicaid, etc.
> is pointless.

It is never pointless to reject a malicious lie.

> Anyone who shows up at an emergency room has to
> be treated. That is the law.

The law applies to public hospitals.

> If there is no insurance, etc., the hospitals "write
> if off" which means that the rest of us pay for it
> one way or another (through taxes or jacked up
> insurance premiums or both). The treatment is not
> "free".

We all pay for everything. There isn't anyone else here but us. The point of it all is to maximize the value we receive while minimizing the cost that we pay. Quite a lot of the people who post here have no talent at that at all.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Edelstein424 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 02:32PM

With 36,000+ Fairfax students in FCPS, the Medicaid question doesn't really matter. The cost for students who are ESL and free/reduced = huge.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think schools can ask parents for any proof of citizenship. So they're just stuck taking any student who shows up any day, right?

If students who are illegal weren't in Fairfax schools think what the savings would be in the school budget and what the rest of the students would have access to.

But Velkoff is saying what? Make Fairfax a sanctuary city and bring in even more? The budget is already busted as is.

And the School Board wanted taxing power this year and the meals tax. Can you imagine?

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Posted by: the talent ()
Date: July 15, 2014 02:49PM

"We all pay for everything. There isn't anyone else here but us. The point of it all is to maximize the value we receive while minimizing the cost that we pay. Quite a lot of the people who post here have no talent at that at all."


Part of the question is who are the "we"? Some people have maximized "the value" of these immigrants and some people have paid the cost and they aren't the same people. That is why you have this polarization on the issue. People do have a talent for seeing this.

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Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 03:04PM

Edelstein424 Wrote:
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> If students who are illegal weren't in Fairfax
> schools think what the savings would be in the
> school budget and what the rest of the students
> would have access to.

Documented or not, the parents of all these kids are paying the same county real estate taxes that you are. Hence, their kids have the same right to attend FCPS as yours do. Funny how that works, huh.

> But Velkoff is saying what? Make Fairfax a sanctuary
> city and bring in even more? The budget is already
> busted as is. And the School Board wanted taxing power
> this year and the meals tax. Can you imagine?


Study harder. The meals tax is a revenue measure already adopted in 39 cities, 47 counties, and at least 104 towns within the Commonwealth. These include all of Vienna, Herndon, Fairfax, Falls Church, Arlington, Manassas, and Manassas Park. The Board of Supervisors recently asked a panel to review prospects for adopting a county-level meals tax. But the final decision was not to proceed at this time.

FCPS is meanwhile all but entirely dependent upon the Board of Supervisors for the adequacy of its annual funding. This year as in others, the Board chose to meet its needs by undercutting schools and school programs. An independent taxing authority would be well invested in FCPS. Schools are the largest part of the county budget, but they and the children they serve and educate get shafted for unrelated political reasons under the present setup. Let the educators make taxing decisions re education and let the Board spend more time figuring out how best to deal with storm-water runoff.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: DocintheBox ()
Date: July 15, 2014 03:18PM

^^"Documented or not, the parents of all these kids are paying the same county real estate taxes that you are. Hence, their kids have the same right to attend FCPS as yours do."^^


No, they do not. Subsidized housing, multi-families per housing unit and families dropping kids at FCPS bus stops when they live out of county and state doesn't equal paying county real estate taxes.

The landlords and landowners do --- we are picking up the tab in every which way. Extra services, translation for parents, free breakfast and lunch, reduced or free field trips, supplies. The list is endless.

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Posted by: errmm hold up ()
Date: July 15, 2014 03:19PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Edelstein424 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----

> Documented or not, the parents of all these kids
> are paying the same county real estate taxes that
> you are. Hence, their kids have the same right to
> attend FCPS as yours do. Funny how that works,
> huh.




Right, so Juan and Lolita, who rent out a basement for $800 per month pay the same in RE taxes as whites do.

Jauns landlord pays $3,500 a year in RE taxes, he shares the house with four families. That is $875 per year, that goes to support Jaun and Lolitas 4 kids.

Now us legal hardworking whites, we pay more in RE taxes, have less kids, and tend to send our kids to private schools. Like myself, I pay over $5,000 a year in RE taxes and send my kids to O'Connell.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hard one.. ()
Date: July 15, 2014 03:24PM

I wonder which group contributes more in taxes.

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Hmmm wonder which one...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 03:25PM

the talent Wrote:
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> Part of the question is who are the "we"? Some
> people have maximized "the value" of these
> immigrants and some people have paid the cost and
> they aren't the same people. That is why you have
> this polarization on the issue. People do have a
> talent for seeing this.

Face it. People of a certain sort have a talent for falling for worthless slop and stereotypes. And people of a different sort delight in taking advantage of that weakness.

We all benefit greatly from the work of the foreign-born in the county. Among other things, they haul stuff, build stuff, and clean and maintain stuff. Then they make sure the the homes and bodies we inhabit, the cars we drive, and the food we eat are all fit for our occupancy, use, and consumption. We are all riding on a wave of productivity that is worked up every day by the foreign-born, usually starting from about the time the sun comes up. And whether documented or not, they pay the same taxes as anyone else does. That's the reality of the situation. Only the truly stupid believe otherwise.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: asshole to asshole ()
Date: July 15, 2014 03:38PM

At least you are consistent

Here are some facts for you

There is no way the ESOL people are paying their own way in taxes for the resources they are using within the county. ESOL costs the county over 150% above what a normal student costs.

So that means every time a poor (mostly Hispanic) immigrant moves to Fairfax thats an additional drain on the system. Over the longterm this is not sustainable and we are beginning to see the effects of this situation.

FCPS is NOT underfunded. FCPS needs to learn how to better manage the resources it has instead of wanting more. Guess what they will always want more.

'We all benefit greatly from the work of the foreign-born in the county. Among other things, they haul stuff, build stuff, and clean and maintain stuff. Then they make sure the the homes and bodies we inhabit, the cars we drive, and the food we eat are all fit for our occupancy, use, and consumption. We are all riding on a wave of productivity that is worked up every day by the foreign-born, usually starting from about the time the sun comes up. And whether documented or not, they pay the same taxes as anyone else does. That's the reality of the situation. Only the truly stupid believe otherwise."

I agree with you here but one question. How did these things get accomplished say before 1990? Is it wrong to appreciate a time pre ESOL explosion and pre so many people reliant on the government for basic existence?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Rep[ort #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 03:40PM

DocintheBox Wrote:
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> No, they do not.

Yes, they fucking do, you uneducated asstard. Same income and payroll taxes, same real estate, sales, and excise taxes. You have to be REALLY FUCKING STUPID to think that immigrants are somehow getting a free ride on taxes.

> Subsidized housing, multi-families per housing unit and
> families dropping kids at FCPS bus stops when they live out
> of county and state doesn't equal paying county real
> estate taxes.

Hmmm. There is exactly NOTHING about any of this that is relevant to place of birth or immigration status. I might suppose that you are REALLY FUCKING STUPID on this account. In fact, I do.

> The landlords and landowners do --- we are picking
> up the tab in every which way.

Go give yourself an enema, you gigantic assfuck. Property taxes on rental units are passed on to tenants. Just like other costs of doing business. Obviously, you have never been an actual landlord. Lots of experience at being a fucktard it would seem though.

> Extra services, translation for parents, free breakfast and lunch, reduced or
> free field trips, supplies. The list is endless.

And again none of it is keyed to birthplace or immigration status. Your shit runneth over, you colossally fat-headed dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: unschooled ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:02PM

There are two types of immigrants to FFX County. One type is highly educated and has an H1B1 visa or is a doctor, etc. That type is paying taxes and is not a drain on the county. That type may even have children at TJ and has focused on educating their child. That type is here legally for sure. There are also others here legally who are working in service or construction and whose children have received a good foundation for learning. They do not require remedial education and chances are they do not need free lunch, etc.

Then there are those who are here illegally. I think this post is about those people (as the thread title indicates). If this category were to be taken as a separate category of immigrants, then yes, they are probably not paying enough taxes to take care of their expenses to other taxpayers here (and they probably won't over the long term either). And, yes, our native born high school drop outs probably don't take care of their own taxpayer provided support through our taxes either. The question is: which type are on our border right now and do we need more high school drop outs in the economy? It is possible that we do. We need to think about that in terms of the jobs available in FFX County and in terms of the needs that these children will present to our schools and how much our citizens are willing to pay in taxes. Right now it's not looking too good. It's all about balancing these things. You can state that people are being racist, but people may also worry about their taxes (and that is a legitimate thing for them to be concerned about). If people who are working (like the man above who pays 5K in RE taxes, but has his kids at O'Connell) leave this county, that is a problem. The meals tax could bring in some more money, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to what will be needed (at least according to what we are told is needed).

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:05PM

errmm hold up Wrote:
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> Right, so Juan and Lolita, who rent out a basement
> for $800 per month pay the same in RE taxes as
> whites do.

That's correct. Part of that $800 per month is a direct pass-through of real estate taxes assessed against the landlord's property. The tenant is the one paying it regardless of whether one or both or neither of them is documented.

> Jauns landlord pays $3,500 a year in RE taxes, he
> shares the house with four families. That is $875
> per year, that goes to support Jaun and Lolitas 4
> kids.

No, dumbfuck. Never mind that $3500 divided by 5 is $700, however much it is, it goes from each family's rent to the county and then about 60% of it on average will be passed on to FCPS to run the schools. Doesn't matter whether they have four kids or none. This is the same deal that EVERYONE fucking gets.

> Now us legal hardworking whites, we pay more in RE
> taxes, have less kids, and tend to send our kids
> to private schools. Like myself, I pay over
> $5,000 a year in RE taxes and send my kids to
> O'Connell.

LOL! I pay better than twice that and don't have any kids in any school at all. What do you think that means, asstard?

Poor choice on O'Connell, by the way. But then again, if you could reason with religious people, there wouldn't be any religious people.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Juan P ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:11PM

Que?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: DocintheBox ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:11PM

When 23 people live in one house representing 5 or more families, they are not paying the same in taxes.

Subsidized (what is called rent-controlled in other places in the country) depletes the tax base precisely because they don't pay the same. That's where the 'subsidized' part comes in.

People dropping their kids at bus stops who live out of county and out of state? No, they are not paying the same in taxes because they aren't paying any in Fairfax County at all.

Increased use and demand of services IS tied to birthplace and immigration status.

Almost 65% of kids needing ESOL services also get free and reduced meals. That's before the need for the interpreters, parent outreach staff, social workers and so on.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:11PM

hard one.. Wrote:
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> I wonder which group contributes more in taxes.

I undoubtedly pay quite a bit more is income, real estate, sales, excise, and meals taxes than you do. Are you actually stupid enough to believe that this means you don't pay those same taxes yourself?

Go ahead -- admit to being that big of a dumbfuck!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: get it now ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:14PM

"LOL! I pay better than twice that and don't have any kids in any school at all. What do you think that means, asstard?"


That means you are totally out of touch with the average citizen who has to make ends meet and who is tired of having their taxes go up while their earnings stay the same or go down. You cannot possibly understand why people are worried about this issue. You probably have illegals cleaning all your bathrooms and mowing your lawn. Glad to hear you have no kids.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: errmm hold up (22044) ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:18PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> errmm hold up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right, so Juan and Lolita, who rent out a
> basement
> > for $800 per month pay the same in RE taxes as
> > whites do.
>
> That's correct. Part of that $800 per month is a
> direct pass-through of real estate taxes assessed
> against the landlord's property. The tenant is
> the one paying it regardless of whether one or
> both or neither of them is documented.

Yes, I agree.



>
> > Jauns landlord pays $3,500 a year in RE taxes,
> he
> > shares the house with four families. That is
> $875
> > per year, that goes to support Jaun and Lolitas
> 4
> > kids.
>
> No, dumbfuck. Never mind that $3500 divided by 5
> is $700, however much it is, it goes from each
> family's rent to the county and then about 60% of
> it on average will be passed on to FCPS to run the
> schools. Doesn't matter whether they have four
> kids or none. This is the same deal that EVERYONE
> fucking gets.

I said four families, not five. Anyways, I understand they do pay the tax, that's not the issue here. It's the amount they are paying, which is not enough.

$875 divided between 4 kids, so you have just under $220 per kid annualy. Not enough to cover the free lunches and ESOL costs.

>
> > Now us legal hardworking whites, we pay more in
> RE
> > taxes, have less kids, and tend to send our
> kids
> > to private schools. Like myself, I pay over
> > $5,000 a year in RE taxes and send my kids to
> > O'Connell.
> > LOL! I pay better than twice that and don't have
> any kids in any school at all. What do you think
> that means, asstard?

That means you are not a leach, congrats.
>
> Poor choice on O'Connell, by the way. But then
> again, if you could reason with religious people,
> there wouldn't be any religious people.

Any recommendations? Sure beats the local public school, Jeb Stuart.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Legallyhere ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:23PM

get it now Wrote:
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> "LOL! I pay better than twice that and don't have
> any kids in any school at all. What do you think
> that means, asstard?"
>
>
> That means you are totally out of touch with the
> average citizen who has to make ends meet and who
> is tired of having their taxes go up while their
> earnings stay the same or go down. You cannot
> possibly understand why people are worried about
> this issue. You probably have illegals cleaning
> all your bathrooms and mowing your lawn. Glad to
> hear you have no kids.

+1MILLION!

P.S. Let's have a "no kids" tax.
All these people without children aren't paying their fare share of raising the next generation on a daily basis.
We should tax them for "NOT" having kids.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: sNIFF ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:28PM

What is that smell in this thread? What is it?

It is our very own Gerry. We love you man! But I'm curious how you hold down a job when you post this much.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pwnage level = 1 TRILLION ()
Date: July 15, 2014 04:53PM

get it now Wrote:
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> "LOL! I pay better than twice that and don't have
> any kids in any school at all. What do you think
> that means, asstard?"
>
>
> That means you are totally out of touch with the
> average citizen who has to make ends meet and who
> is tired of having their taxes go up while their
> earnings stay the same or go down. You cannot
> possibly understand why people are worried about
> this issue. You probably have illegals cleaning
> all your bathrooms and mowing your lawn. Glad to
> hear you have no kids.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:02PM

asshole to asshole Wrote:
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> There is no way the ESOL people are paying their
> own way in taxes for the resources they are using
> within the county.

They aren't supposed to, you freaking dumbass. It isn't a one-on-one, pay-as-you-go system. We all reap the benefits of UNIVERSAL FREE public education. So we all pay. Rich or poor. Lots of kids or none. We all pitch in and we all benefit. That's the way many things work in a society. You should go back and reread your basic membership packet materials.

> ESOL costs the county over 150% above what a normal student costs.

What about the physically challenged and kids with other severe handicaps. Not to mention the gifted and talented. They cost more than a "normal kid" as well. Of course, most people realize that it is FUCKING NORMAL to have a whole range of such kids in a school system with 180,000 students, but I'd bet that whole issue is simply above your pay-grade.

> So that means every time a poor (mostly Hispanic)
> immigrant moves to Fairfax thats an additional
> drain on the system. Over the longterm this is
> not sustainable...

Hey, dumbfuck. You aren't smart enough to know what's "sustainable" and what's not. You don't even know the names of the tools one would use in order to determine actual "sustainability". It's just a stupid pop-culture buzzword that assholes toss around in hopes of somehow sounding knowledgeable. It's not working.

> ...and we are beginning to see the effects of
> this situation.

The effects are that total assholes get on the internet and make complete fools of themselves over the matter. Beyond that, there's nothing of any actual substance to report.

> FCPS is NOT underfunded. FCPS needs to learn how
> to better manage the resources it has instead of
> wanting more. Guess what they will always want
> more.

Idiot. FCPS will NEED more and more funding so long as the county continues to grow. The need THIS YEAR to expand class sizes (again) and delay promised teacher pay increases (again) is meanwhile plain evidence that FCPS is indeed underfunded at the present time, this coming on the heels of cutbacks from bearing a considerable share of the County's burdens in reacting to the colossal failure of dumbass right-wing economic policies back in the last decade. You remember all that, don't you?

> I agree with you here but one question. How did
> these things get accomplished say before 1990? Is
> it wrong to appreciate a time pre ESOL explosion
> and pre so many people reliant on the government
> for basic existence?

Learn some history. It was of course much higher earlier on, but we are just now approaching the 13-15% level of foreign-born in the US population that was the norm between the Civil War and WWI. That war plus the Great Depression, WWII, and the Cold War made travel in general difficult and reduced emigration around the globe. By 1970, the foreign-born had reached an all-time low of 4.7% of the US population. It has been rising ever since. We are presently well past the 12% level and approaching 13%. The inescapable waves of immigration that will accompany the retirement of the baby boomers will push us higher still. Be ready for it.

As for the institution of public welfare programs, that came about for one and only one reason: private institutions proved themselves to be totally and woefully INADEQUATE to the task. They still are. Go out and ask the field directors of some supposedly private charities (most of them receive major funding from the public sector, you know) whether the government should increase or decrease its role in their areas. No matter where you go or whom you talk to, you will receive one and only one answer. You already know what it is.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Jewh8ter2 still doesn't get ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:17PM

"illegal"

What a dumbfuq

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hmmmmmmmm ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:18PM

The white couple looks republican!! and bad cut and paste job with the central american protesters.

hard one.. Wrote:
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> I wonder which group contributes more in taxes.
>
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> 1af9f69e201a73de438be970d-500wi"/>
>
>

>
> src="http://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/92154
> 4/preview/stock-footage-a-happy-family-stands-in-f
> ront-of-their-beautiful-brick-house.jpg"/>
>
>
>
> Hmmm wonder which one...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hmmmmmmmm ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:18PM

The white couple looks republican!! and bad cut and paste job with the central american protesters.

hard one.. Wrote:
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> I wonder which group contributes more in taxes.
>
> src="http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345
> 1af9f69e201a73de438be970d-500wi"/>
>
>

>
> src="http://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/92154
> 4/preview/stock-footage-a-happy-family-stands-in-f
> ront-of-their-beautiful-brick-house.jpg"/>
>
>
>
> Hmmm wonder which one...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hmmmmmmmm ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:18PM

The white couple looks republican!! and bad cut and paste job with the central american protesters.

hard one.. Wrote:
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> I wonder which group contributes more in taxes.
>
> src="http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345
> 1af9f69e201a73de438be970d-500wi"/>
>
>

>
> src="http://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/92154
> 4/preview/stock-footage-a-happy-family-stands-in-f
> ront-of-their-beautiful-brick-house.jpg"/>
>
>
>
> Hmmm wonder which one...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Dumbfuq gets pwnd again ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:20PM

CBO shows that "Of that group, not quite half have fulfilled the requirements of U.S. citizenship. Of the remaining people, about half are authorized to live and work in the United States, and about half are not authorized to live or work in the country."

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44134

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: More data: ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:22PM

"In 2012, 27 percent of the foreign-born population between the ages of 25 and 64 had not completed high school, compared with 7 percent of the native-born population. That difference was even larger among foreign-born people from certain regions of the world: A majority of people from Mexico and Central America, for example, had less than a high school diploma"

Our leftist dumbfuq probably thinks that they'll enroll in HS...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Hey, they're hard working, right ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:23PM

er, no:
"On average between 1994 and 2012, the unemployment rate among people born in Mexico or Central America was 7.0 percent, whereas the rate for native-born workers was 4.6 percent and for workers born in Asia, 4.5 percent. "

bbuttheypaytaxesorsomething...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: worthless spics ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:25PM

Oh yeah... they just got out of Annandale High

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: fuck you asshole ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:31PM

I know lets get all these leeches to come to your house live there use your stuff because it is so beneficial society just think of all the good you can do

FCPS can't spend money as it is why should we keep giving them more hey I know you can donate more of your money to that too

Get your own head out of your own ass you stupid dumb fuck cunt bitch democrat retard. You are totally screwing this county over for what so we can have more diversity.

Go fuck up your own house

Dont tread on me

Dumb fuck

Cunt

Bitch

Fuck you

ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEE

oh and have a nice day

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Rt1neighbor ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:32PM

from mt.vernon online article

Because there isn't enough funding for Fairfax County's Head Start program, approximately 828 children in the county are on a waiting list to enter the Head Start program --------

Of those 828, 690 or 83 percent, live near the county's Richmond Highway corridor in Fairfax County, according to statistics from the county.


reason there isn't enough funding to begin with? because illegals often work under the table, not paying income tax or income is so low they don't pay anyway, just claim earned income & child tax credits

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Yup ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:38PM

they are leeches

right now we are at a tipping point towards becoming like Maryland higher taxes and sanctuary status..... look at Montgomery County its coming.

person from earlier is right too with more and more baby boomers where is the income going to come from

they will keep jacking up the taxes because less and less% are non-leeches

its a recipie for disaster

and to clarify again

legal immigration fine good even

illegal low skill leech immigration very bad

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ThrowBackTuesday ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:38PM

Throw back Tuesday time!
Why have we ended up in this situation? Who said this?

"I can just tell you Fairfax County is not going to go the route of some of our neighbors,"
"We're not going to demagogue. We're not going to essentially roll back the welcome mat."

Good ol' Gerry Connolly. In 2007.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/22/AR2007102202429.html

Thanks for not rolling back the mat, Gerry.

Ted Velkoff is apparently keeping up the messaging work for FCPS.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: overload ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:48PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Go out and ask the field directors of
> some supposedly private charities (most of them
> receive major funding from the public sector, you
> know) whether the government should increase or
> decrease its role in their areas. No matter where
> you go or whom you talk to, you will receive one
> and only one answer. You already know what it is.


Yeah, the answer is too damn many illegals leeching off of them too.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:49PM

unschooled Wrote:
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> There are two types of immigrants to FFX County...

The foreign-born population is quite diverse. Just as the native-born population is. But taxation and expenditure decisions are not linked in any way with regard to either population segment. We tax what we feel we need to tax and apportion those burdens as we see fit. Presently the bottom 20% by income lose about 16% of their gross earnings to some form of taxation while the top 20% typically lose about twice that. If that's unfair, it isn't unfair enough to have brought the people who run the show on revenue to the idea of making any significant changes. Expenditures are meanwhile appropriated to those areas where the Congress believes there are current needs. The proportion that goes to actual social welfare programs for anyone is actually quite small.

> It's all about balancing these things.

Yeah, everything is that way.

> You can state that people are being racist, but
> people may also worry about their taxes (and that
> is a legitimate thing for them to be concerned about).

LOL! If that's what these "people" were actually concerned about, they wouldn't be so focused on immigration. Face it -- these are racist goobers, plain and simple.

> If people who are working (like the man above who
> pays 5K in RE taxes, but has his kids at O'Connell)
> leave this county, that is a problem.

No, it isn't a problem at all. This area is highly transient in comparison to most others. People come and go here all the time. One more or less in either direction isn't going to matter one whit. And in any case, the right-wing meme of people bouncing about from state to state and nation to nation over such trivial matters is actually a complete fiction.

> The meals tax could bring in some more money, but
> that's a drop in the bucket compared to what will
> be needed (at least according to what we are told
> is needed).

Each 1% of a meals tax (it can't be anything more than 4%) would bring in an estimated $22.5 million in the first year. Some 25-30% of the people who paid the tax would be non-residents, but closer to 40% of the actual revenues would come from them. Much of the rest would come from those county residents who can afford to dine out both well and often.

The "drop in the bucket" argument would meanwhile prevent you from picking up a $10 bill you found lying in the street. In other words, it is not necessary for part of the answer to resolve all of the problem.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: jewh8ter attempting to deflect ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:58PM

Gets ass whipped by CBO.
Hilarity ensues.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: What race is Mexican, que? ()
Date: July 15, 2014 05:59PM

Bueller?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole sighting #1326-c ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:00PM

jewh8ter attempting to deflect Wrote:
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> Gets ass whipped by CBO.
> Hilarity ensues.


Well, according to the Bochnom studies conducted in 2004 using Karls Mels theory, illegals are paying more taxes than legal millionaires. It's the high earning tax payers that are the issue. Paying thousands a year in taxes, and not even using the public school systems.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: CBO > you ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:03PM

Deal with it

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: worried parent ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:08PM

If schools provide ESOL services they should also provide SSOL (Spanish as a second language). By the time the 2014 kindergarten class is out looking for a job they will be unemployable if they are not bilingual. Beginning a second language in middle school/high school is too late! It is already impossible to be hired for certain jobs if one does not speak a second language.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Obama's 1% Funders ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:10PM

Asshole sighting #1326-c Wrote:
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> jewh8ter attempting to deflect Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gets ass whipped by CBO.
> > Hilarity ensues.
>
>
> Well, according to the Bochnom studies conducted
> in 2004 using Karls Mels theory, illegals are
> paying more taxes than legal millionaires. It's
> the high earning tax payers that are the issue.
> Paying thousands a year in taxes, and not even
> using the public school systems.


Numbers please? And just how do illegals pay taxes, other than sales taxes which none of us can avoid?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:12PM

DocintheBox Wrote:
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> When 23 people live in one house representing 5 or
> more families, they are not paying the same in
> taxes.

Yes, they are. They are paying exactly the same rent -- and hence exactly the same property taxes -- as any other resident would pay. If some ridiculous fundie family with 21 children moved in, they would pay the same thing. And all their kids would have every right to attend FCPS schools. There simply is no birthplace or immigration status vector at work here.

> Subsidized (what is called rent-controlled in
> other places in the country) depletes the tax base
> precisely because they don't pay the same. That's
> where the 'subsidized' part comes in.

This again? It isn't actually a supposition, but let's suppose that I make much more than you do and hence pay much more in taxes than you do. Does that mean that you don't pay the very same taxes that I do? No. It means that many of our taxes impose burdens that vary by income. I pay what I am supposed to pay and -- in what may actually BE a supposition -- you pay what you are supposed to pay. But ypou still pay all the same taxes that I do.

> People dropping their kids at bus stops who live
> out of county and out of state? No, they are not
> paying the same in taxes because they aren't
> paying any in Fairfax County at all.

This also does not happen. Kids have to be registered to attend a particular school. Others will not be taught. They will be turned over to authorities.

> Increased use and demand of services IS tied to
> birthplace and immigration status.

No, it isn't. That's simply a dumb statement. Not quite, but nearly half of all undocumented residents entered the country legally. They simply didn't leave when they were supposed to. Many of these make high six figure incomes and their demands for public services are unexceptional in every way. What you mean to say but are afraid to is that you hate and fear low-income people as well as swarthy-looking people who like to speak a language that you don't understand. Same totally irrational dumbfuck mindset as the assholes who freaked over the "Flying Imams" praying at the airport before boarding a flight home after a Muslim conference. What a huge embarrassment to this county and country you people are!

> Almost 65% of kids needing ESOL services also get
> free and reduced meals. That's before the need for
> the interpreters, parent outreach staff, social
> workers and so on.

So what? Almost all of the people in hospital are either sick or injured. Think of the health care savings we could realize simply by deporting sick and injured people. Which is just another way of pointing out what a total dumbfuck asshole you are.

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Posted by: Bull$hitter now ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:15PM

still can't comprehend the difference between "legal" and "illegal", tries to assert that "taxes" collected from working legal immigrants has anything to do with Jose and the boys...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Walk back much, Jewh8ter2? ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:16PM

Try to be consistent thru at least one thread, 'kay?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: NO MEANS NO ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:18PM

Looks like Asshole*** is another apologists for the failed immigration policies of the past five presidents.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: rghdsk ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:20PM

Same totally irrational dumbfuck
> mindset as the assholes who freaked over the
> "Flying Imams" praying at the airport before
> boarding a flight home after a Muslim conference.
> What a huge embarrassment to this county and
> country you people are!
>

Not an embarassment at all. Muslims should be deported too. All they are is trouble looking for a place to happen. Look at the UK, France, and some
other European countries. I don't want that to happen here and I don't give a flying fuck if you like it or not. Gerry Connolly might like their money but I don't.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Illegal loving faggot ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:21PM

Still can't comprehend amount paid vs the amount used.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: # Here complaining about legal ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:27PM

immigrants, especially those working hard to support themselves & families = 0.

Number of people here unable to comprehend simple English = 1.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: response ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:29PM

"but nearly half of all undocumented residents entered the country legally. They simply didn't leave when they were supposed to. Many of these make high six figure incomes and their demands for public services are unexceptional in every way"

How can they be making that kind of money if they are not legally here? Oh, yes, it's "under the table". Gee, I wish I could make that much and not pay taxes.So what? Almost all of the people in hospital are either sick or injured. Think of the health care savings we could realize simply by deporting sick and injured people."

Sick and injured people are not analagous to the current emergency immigrant situation. One involves citizens and the other one does not. Many people in hospitals have personal insurance for the likelihood of sickness or injury. We expect people to become sick and injured and we have planned for it (and people themselves have personally planned for it by paying for insurance). It's a false analogy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Calls "swarthy", but we're raaaa ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:31PM

aaacists.

Yawn.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:31PM

get it now Wrote:
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> That means you are totally out of touch with the
> average citizen who has to make ends meet and who
> is tired of having their taxes go up while their
> earnings stay the same or go down. You cannot
> possibly understand why people are worried about
> this issue. You probably have illegals cleaning
> all your bathrooms and mowing your lawn. Glad to
> hear you have no kids.

I did have kids, but they grew up and went off on their own. Kids these days. I do indeed have a landscaping service and a cleaning service. They do a terrific job. And just like you, I have no way at all of telling which if any of these people (yes, they are all in fact people) might be undocumented. The principals that I deal with have told me that they do not wish to be targets of federal prosecution and therefore make every effort to verify green cards, I-9's, and other such papers. I don't ask them to do more, and neither does the law. I was meanwhile not always as well off as I am today. I once struggled to make ends meet. And I did not even once blame my situation on Vietnamese refugees or the Mariel boat people. That's because I have never been an asshole or dumbfuck. You of course cannot say the same.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: You ain't got shit ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:35PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> get it now Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That means you are totally out of touch with
> the
> > average citizen who has to make ends meet and
> who
> > is tired of having their taxes go up while
> their
> > earnings stay the same or go down. You cannot
> > possibly understand why people are worried
> about
> > this issue. You probably have illegals
> cleaning
> > all your bathrooms and mowing your lawn. Glad
> to
> > hear you have no kids.
>
> I did have kids, but they grew up and went off on
> their own. Kids these days. I do indeed have a
> landscaping service and a cleaning service. They
> do a terrific job. And just like you, I have no
> way at all of telling which if any of these people
> (yes, they are all in fact people) might be
> undocumented. The principals that I deal with
> have told me that they do not wish to be targets
> of federal prosecution and therefore make every
> effort to verify green cards, I-9's, and other
> such papers. I don't ask them to do more, and
> neither does the law. I was meanwhile not always
> as well off as I am today. I once struggled to
> make ends meet. And I did not even once blame my
> situation on Vietnamese refugees or the Mariel
> boat people. That's because I have never been an
> asshole or dumbfuck. You of course cannot say the
> same.


Oh my, someone from Fairfax over the age of 50 that is well off. Jeez, great job, how'd you do that? Go to work everyday?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: no way at all of telling ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:39PM

100% Bullshit. As any of us who actually employ people will tell you.

Is this before or after you were in the Army?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Bull$hitter now ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:40PM

Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current infestation. Hilarious.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Had Enough ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:42PM

The ILLEGAL spics are nothing but Locust. A massive drain on the working society, They are nothing but fucking LOCUST!!!
And you all know it!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: living in the past ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:46PM

Welcome to 2014 from your new dumbfuck asshole neighbor. I'll be making important decisions about your hospital care when your Alzheimer's kicks in.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Brown pride. ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:48PM

Nothing but Locust.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:48PM

errmm hold up (22044) Wrote:
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> I said four families, not five.

You said that "Jaun" shared the place with four families. That makes a total of five.

> Anyways, I understand they do pay the tax, that's not
> the issue here. It's the amount they are paying, which
> is not enough.

So the County weasels are making you pay too much and low-income residents not enough? That's how you actually see things here?
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:49PM

Gerry's quoted comment was interesting enough to run numbers.

In 2002, five years before, FCPS student #s

160,697 June 2002



In 2007, when he made that statement, FCPS student #s


163,593 June 2007 up 2896 students


In 2012, five years later, FCPS student #s


177,435 June 2012 up 13842 students


Now, in 2014, FCPS students #s

183,231 June 2014 up 22534 students



Had per annum student growth rate remained consistent to the five years leading up to Connolly's statement, there would only be 167,937 FCPS students now or 15,294 fewer students, predominantly high needs according to reports by school officials.

The growth rate climbed 470% x the previous per annum rate after Prince William's efforts and then Connolly's statement.

The more you know.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:49PM

Gerry's quoted comment was interesting enough to run numbers.

In 2002, five years before, FCPS student #s

160,697 June 2002



In 2007, when he made that statement, FCPS student #s


163,593 June 2007 up 2896 students


In 2012, five years later, FCPS student #s


177,435 June 2012 up 13842 students


Now, in 2014, FCPS students #s

183,231 June 2014 up 22534 students



Had per annum student growth rate remained consistent to the five years leading up to Connolly's statement, there would only be 167,937 FCPS students now or 15,294 fewer students, predominantly high needs according to reports by school officials.

The growth rate climbed 470% x the previous per annum rate after Prince William's efforts and then Connolly's statement.

The more you know.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Jewh8ter2 still flinging away, ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:50PM

Now with 40% less comprehension.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: VVMKu ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:56PM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> Gerry's quoted comment was interesting enough to
> run numbers.
>

Now go look at the racial and income breakdowns for students and you'll see who's driving the growth.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ever going to reply to the CBO ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:56PM

Data, dumbfuq?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 06:56PM

Legallyhere Wrote:
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> P.S. Let's have a "no kids" tax. All these people
> without children aren't paying their fare share of
> raising the next generation on a daily basis. We
> should tax them for "NOT" having kids.

About 36% of Fairfax County households included children under the age of 18. About 100% of Fairfax County households pay the property taxes that support Fairfax County Public Schools. If you want to so this "daily basis" thing, we need to about triple your taxes and give me a big fat rebate. Dumbass.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Re[porty #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:03PM

sNIFF Wrote:
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> What is that smell in this thread? What is it?
> It is our very own Gerry. We love you man! But
> I'm curious how you hold down a job when you post
> this much.

I'm actually not the same person as any of the Gerry's, but I am retired for the most part. Took almost ten years to pull it off, as people kept begging me to do one more thing for them. You know how that goes. Or maybe you don't. In any case, I now work when I want to and don't when I don't. Out of town trip last week and finished up a monthly project yesterday. Today, I decree that I may post all I want to in between various chores and errands. Don't you wish you were me?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report $14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:12PM

More data: Wrote:
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> In 2012, 27 percent of the foreign-born population
> between the ages of 25 and 64 had not completed high
> school, compared with 7 percent of the native-born
> population.

Hmmm. 27% of 13% would be 3.51% of the population, or about 11.1 million people. Meanwhile, 7% of 87% would be 6.1% of the population or about 19.2 million people. Easy to see that it's these native-born fuckers that are causing most of the problem here, whatever the actual problem actually is. Dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ooooooooooh . . . nope ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:26PM

"Don't you wish you were me?"

OMG no! You sound like an arrogant know-it-all and I would hate to live with you. You "decree that you may post all you want between errands and chores"???? Are you kidding? You need to take a chill pill.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Fun with Numbers ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:29PM

Asshole Report $14-0071 Wrote:
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> More data: Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In 2012, 27 percent of the foreign-born
> population
> > between the ages of 25 and 64 had not completed
> high
> > school, compared with 7 percent of the
> native-born
> > population.
>
> Hmmm. 27% of 13% would be 3.51% of the
> population, or about 11.1 million people.
> Meanwhile, 7% of 87% would be 6.1% of the
> population or about 19.2 million people. Easy to
> see that it's these native-born fuckers that are
> causing most of the problem here, whatever the
> actual problem actually is. Dumbfuck.


So what you're saying is that at 13% of the population they represent a greatly disproportionate number at about 1/3 of those without a diploma.

Thanks. Good to know.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:32PM

Hey, they're hard working, right Wrote:
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> "On average between 1994 and 2012, the
> unemployment rate among people born in Mexico or
> Central America was 7.0 percent, whereas the rate
> for native-born workers was 4.6 percent and for
> workers born in Asia, 4.5 percent. "

Yo, asswipe. Unemployment rates for Hispanics born anywhere at all are higher than for native-born workers because the latter are so predominantly palefaces. The same exact thing will hold true for any non-white demographic. Look up fucking Native Americans, you mindless dipshit.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 07:51PM

fuck you asshole Wrote:
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> oh and have a nice day

Every day in my life is nice. This is one of the benefits of not being a worthless goober asshole. Some days, I just sit back and enjoy reading through the various appreciations we receive from scholarship recipients of the educational foundation my family established now many years ago. It's very satisfying to hear about the difference one has made in the lives of others. I'm guessing that all you do is piss other people off. Probably not so much reward in that sort of thing.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:02PM

Rt1neighbor Wrote:
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> reason there isn't enough funding to begin with?
> because illegals often work under the table, not
> paying income tax or income is so low they don't
> pay anyway, just claim earned income & child tax
> credits

No, asshole. No significant employer wants to risk a visit from ICE or the IRS. Employers need plausible deniability and the cheapest and easiest way to accomplish that is to treat all employees the same way. That means full withholding, health benefits, the whole nine yards. All of these expenses are tax-deduxtible. Fines and income lost while serving prison sentences are not.

The EITC and ACCC are meanwhile available to all those who meet the criteria for taking them. There is no racial, birthplace, or citizenship component involved there. Of course, due to their inherent fear of any sort of contact with the system, actual illegals very often do not file a tax return, even if they would be due a refund as the result. Treasury is sitting on tens of billions of dollars worth of taxes that illegals paid in but will never receive a dime back from.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dumbfuq forgets Asians ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:05PM

In unemployment

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report $14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:20PM

worried parent Wrote:
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> If schools provide ESOL services they should also
> provide SSOL (Spanish as a second language). By
> the time the 2014 kindergarten class is out
> looking for a job they will be unemployable if
> they are not bilingual. Beginning a second
> language in middle school/high school is too late!
> It is already impossible to be hired for certain
> jobs if one does not speak a second language.

Virtually all students in Canada and significant Asian and European economies are at least bilingual from an early age. We are clearly not doing enough to keep up. Spanish is the de facto second language of the US already and it will only become moreso over time. We can't even handle that.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:29PM

Bull$hitter now Wrote:
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> still can't comprehend the difference between
> "legal" and "illegal", tries to assert that
> "taxes" collected from working legal immigrants
> has anything to do with Jose and the boys...

Pay attention, asshole. Everyone pays sales taxes, everyone pays excise taxes, and whether you rent or own, you are paying real estate taxes. Almost all working illegals are subject to payroll and income taxes. The exceptions are the handful who work for small time shysters and outright criminals. No significant employer falls into those categories.

Bottom line here is that you've been had by a bunch of lying asshats. Nice going, dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:31PM

NO MEANS NO Wrote:
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> Looks like Asshole*** is another apologists for
> the failed immigration policies of the past five
> presidents.

So you were down with Jimmy Carter. Cool.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:37PM

rghdsk Wrote:
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> Not an embarassment at all. Muslims should be
> deported too.

You know, I'm not at all surprised that one from the band of total fucking assholes would come up with such transparent dumbfuck nonsense as that.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Xvy6T ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:43PM

Ooooooooooh . . . nope Wrote:
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> "Don't you wish you were me?"
>
> OMG no! You sound like an arrogant know-it-all
> and I would hate to live with you. You "decree
> that you may post all you want between errands and
> chores"???? Are you kidding? You need to take a
> chill pill.


He's such a boorish asshole that he actually thinks his posts like that make him look good. lmao

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:48PM

Illegal loving faggot Wrote:
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> Still can't comprehend amount paid vs the amount used.

Go fuck yourself, you ignorant pinhead. Your measure is NOT FUCKING VALID. This isn't some private sector marketplace. We collect taxes. In a completely separate exercise, we parcel out those and other revenues for expenditure. There are some cases where the proceeds of some tax or other are earmarked to specific purposes. But the bulk of all spending everywhere comes from general revenues. There is no link from the income side to the outlay side. Maybe take a course or something and get caught up with the real world.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: plenty to go around ()
Date: July 15, 2014 08:53PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> rghdsk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not an embarassment at all. Muslims should be
> > deported too.



You're fucking right, those scum backwards ass dumbfuck muslims should be deported. They are the other cancer that lives in America.
But lets focus on this illegal spic problem first.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:03PM

response Wrote:
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> How can they be making that kind of money if they
> are not legally here? Oh, yes, it's "under the
> table".

No, you dumbfuck. These people are everything from meat packers to plumbers to surgeons to systems engineers. They are ordinary in every way except for their immigration status. You don't see them. All you see is some fucking asshole stereotype. That's because you are just some fucking asshole.

> Sick and injured people are not analagous to the
> current emergency immigrant situation.

Like gifted and talented students, they cost more than "normal" people. Try to keep up or something.

> We expect people to become sick and injured and we
> have planned for it (and people themselves have
> personally planned for it by paying for
> insurance). It's a false analogy.

Dumbass, we know that some people will cost more to BOTH the education and health care systems. No more planning is necessary in one case than in the other. You are just too plain fucking dumb to understand how incompetently nonsensical your comments actually are.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Response ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:05PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> response Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How can they be making that kind of money if
> they
> > are not legally here? Oh, yes, it's "under the
> > table".
>
> No, you dumbfuck. These people are everything
> from meat packers to plumbers to surgeons to
> systems engineers. They are ordinary in every way
> except for their immigration status. You don't
> see them. All you see is some fucking asshole
> stereotype. That's because you are just some
> fucking asshole.
>
> > Sick and injured people are not analagous to
> the
> > current emergency immigrant situation.
>
> Like gifted and talented students, they cost more
> than "normal" people. Try to keep up or
> something.
>
> > We expect people to become sick and injured and
> we
> > have planned for it (and people themselves have
> > personally planned for it by paying for
> > insurance). It's a false analogy.
>
> Dumbass, we know that some people will cost more
> to BOTH the education and health care systems. No
> more planning is necessary in one case than in the
> other. You are just too plain fucking dumb to
> understand how incompetently nonsensical your
> comments actually are.


^^^^ Douchebag says what?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dKPux ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:07PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Dumbass, we know that some people will cost more
> to BOTH the education and health care systems. No
> more planning is necessary in one case than in the
> other. You are just too plain fucking dumb to
> understand how incompetently nonsensical your
> comments actually are.


And those people are called illegals.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: for those of you just joining us ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:11PM

Thread Cliff notes :

Illegals - Pay very little in taxes and use a lot of resources such as ESOL and free lunches. This creates a deficit, which means legal hardworking Americans must pay even more.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Down the drain ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:19PM

for those of you just joining us Wrote:
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> Thread Cliff notes :
>
> Illegals - Pay very little in taxes and use a lot
> of resources such as ESOL and free lunches. This
> creates a deficit, which means legal hardworking
> Americans must pay even more.


ILLEGALS must go!! why the fuck do I pay for anything at the store, or follow any laws? I will just take it. It's ILLEGAL, but what's the problem?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:20PM

You ain't got shit Wrote:
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> Oh my, someone from Fairfax over the age of 50
> that is well off. Jeez, great job, how'd you do
> that? Go to work everyday?

In the beginning. But if you're perhaps talented and clever and have a little luck to run with, you can come to a point where you make more in unearned income than you do in earned income. From that point on, going to work every day is simply not necessary. But if you are particularly blessed in actually loving the work that you do, you might just want to stick with it anyway.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:24PM

Bull$hitter now Wrote:
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> Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> infestation. Hilarious.

So you totally missed the point. How many dozens of times a day does that actually happen to you?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: The point is.. ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:25PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> > infestation. Hilarious.
>
> So you totally missed the point. How many dozens
> of times a day does that actually happen to you?


Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically superior to El Salvadorians and Hondurans.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:27PM

living in the past Wrote:
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> Welcome to 2014 from your new dumbfuck asshole
> neighbor. I'll be making important decisions
> about your hospital care when your Alzheimer's
> kicks in.

Actually, my health profile and history suggest a very low probability of that. Have you been tested? It's never too early to know, after all.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Can't argue ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:27PM

The point is.. Wrote:
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> Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> > > infestation. Hilarious.
> >
> > So you totally missed the point. How many
> dozens
> > of times a day does that actually happen to
> you?
>
>
> Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically superior to
> El Salvadorians and Hondurans.


That's a good point.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: locust plague ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:29PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> > infestation. Hilarious.
>
> So you totally missed the point. How many dozens
> of times a day does that actually happen to you?


Not even close to an equivalent comparison.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: They're always the last to know ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:35PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> living in the past Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Welcome to 2014 from your new dumbfuck asshole
> > neighbor. I'll be making important decisions
> > about your hospital care when your Alzheimer's
> > kicks in.
>
> Actually, my health profile and history suggest a
> very low probability of that. Have you been
> tested? It's never too early to know, after all.


Looks to have kicked in already since you completely missed the boat on that post. lol

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: racial recap ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:37PM

Cubans

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Average annual income earned in the U.S - $37,000

Vietnamese

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Average annual income earned in the U.S - $49,000

El Salvador

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verage annual income earned in the U.S - $14,000

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:38PM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> Had per annum student growth rate remained
> consistent to the five years leading up to
> Connolly's statement....

Your math skills are horrible, but why would you expect student growth rates to remain constant over any five year period, not to mention the ones in question? Are you just too oblivious to understand the foolishness in that?

> The more you know.

Or the less, in some cases.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:43PM

Ooooooooooh . . . nope Wrote:
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> OMG no! You sound like an arrogant know-it-all
> and I would hate to live with you.

Yeah, intelligent people are a threat, aren't they. Fucking goober.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:50PM

Fun with Numbers Wrote:
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> So what you're saying is that at 13% of the population
> they represent a greatly disproportionate number at
> about 1/3 of those without a diploma.

How much larger than one-third is two-thirds? Any idea?

And what are the numbers for those who came here prior to their school-aged years? Kind of not fair to criticize people for failure to take advantage of opportunities they never had to begin with. But why would you let things like that bother you when it's so much easier just to be stupid?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: NPnFG ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:52PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Ooooooooooh . . . nope Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OMG no! You sound like an arrogant know-it-all
> > and I would hate to live with you.
>
> Yeah, intelligent people are a threat, aren't
> they. Fucking goober.


Intelligent people are great.

Pretentious boors like you suck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:53PM

dKPux Wrote:
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> And those people are called illegals.

Only by assholes. Thanks for self-identifying.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0072 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:56PM

The point is.. Wrote:
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> Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically superior to
> El Salvadorians and Hondurans.

Yes, you need your own special Asshole Report number.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:58PM

locust plague Wrote:
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> Not even close to an equivalent comparison.

So, you've now missed the same point twice. I don't hold out much hope for you.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Fun with numbers ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:01PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Fun with Numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So what you're saying is that at 13% of the
> population
> > they represent a greatly disproportionate number
> at
> > about 1/3 of those without a diploma.
>
> How much larger than one-third is two-thirds? Any
> idea?
>
> And what are the numbers for those who came here
> prior to their school-aged years? Kind of not
> fair to criticize people for failure to take
> advantage of opportunities they never had to begin
> with. But why would you let things like that
> bother you when it's so much easier just to be
> stupid?

How much larger than 13% is 87%?

They still lag significantly even by third generation.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:02PM

They're always the last to know Wrote:
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> Looks to have kicked in already since you
> completely missed the boat on that post. lol

I fully realize that you are just an ignorant stooge, but the point was your suggesting Alzheimer's to begin with -- a forecast quite contradictory to the suggestions of established medical evidence. Way to fuck up. goober.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Illegal Education ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:04PM

I'm so glad my kids are not in Fairfax public schools.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: pUxEF ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:07PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> They're always the last to know Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Looks to have kicked in already since you
> > completely missed the boat on that post. lol
>
> I fully realize that you are just an ignorant
> stooge, but the point was your suggesting
> Alzheimer's to begin with -- a forecast quite
> contradictory to the suggestions of established
> medical evidence. Way to fuck up. goober.


You're obviously confused old man.

Worse, you don't even realize it. lol

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:08PM

NPnFG Wrote:
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> Intelligent people are great.
> Pretentious boors like you suck.

I'm sorry to learn of the significant butthurt that my posts here seem to have caused you. Maybe if you were better able to keep up, things like this would not happen to you quite so often. Worthless fucking dumbass.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:24PM

Fun with numbers Wrote:
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> How much larger than 13% is 87%?

Ask a more intelligent question. The fact is that your problem people are twice as likely to be native-born as foreign-born. When are you douchebag honkies going to clean up your act?

> They still lag significantly even by third generation.

Not very many lag behind you. Most for instance might have guessed that the comparison is apples to oranges, but that sailed right past you.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Winning hearts and minds ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:25PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> NPnFG Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Intelligent people are great.
> > Pretentious boors like you suck.
>
> I'm sorry to learn of the significant butthurt
> that my posts here seem to have caused you. Maybe
> if you were better able to keep up, things like
> this would not happen to you quite so often.
> Worthless fucking dumbass.


None at all.

In fact, I very much like when you post. The more the better. You do all the work of revealing what a true blowhard asshole you are. And a great job I might add.

Please, continue...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:26PM

Illegal Education Wrote:
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> I'm so glad my kids are not in Fairfax public schools.

So would be FCPS, I'm guessing.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Illegal, dumbfuq, means ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:27PM

to not follow the law. Jewh8ter2 = assfuck, now.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Nice trolling ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:29PM

Im going to bed

See you in the morning

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Which part of "unemployed" ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:29PM

your little troll brain, Jewh8ter?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Rport #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:29PM

pUxEF Wrote:
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> You're obviously confused old man. Worse, you don't
> even realize it. lol

I've been all over you assholes for hours. You've COLLECTIVELY got fucking nothing. Just a bunch of hopeless sad-sack loser moron dumbfucks.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "all over"? Wrong, dumbfuq. We > ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:31PM

you. Deal with the suck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: to the old rich smart man ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:32PM

Don't you have one of those errands to run or a chore or something?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report $14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:35PM

Winning hearts and minds Wrote:
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> None at all.

Trying to change horses in the middle of a stream? That's some fucking butthurt you've got going on.

> In fact, I very much like when you post. The more
> the better. You do all the work of revealing what
> a true blowhard asshole you are. And a great job
> I might add. Please, continue...

Well, it's getting late and you worthless assholes are getting lamer by the minute.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Damn it ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:37PM

to the old rich smart man Wrote:
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> Don't you have one of those errands to run or a
> chore or something?


Something tells me the breakfast burritos at Anita's are going to suck tomorrow morning.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: oooooh, it's getting pissy... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:39PM

and stomping it's little troll feet. Careful, mommy might come and turn off your interwebz...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Our little troll ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:39PM

doesn't work, anyway. Remember?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Here's laughing at you, kid... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:40PM

enjoy!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:41PM

to the old rich smart man Wrote:
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> Don't you have one of those errands to run or a
> chore or something?

If I did, I'd be doing it. It's not like beating the crap out of you assholes takes all that much of my attention. Too bad I can't offer you any of the chicken stew I made an hour or so ago. Quite tasty. I like to add a little chili oil to give it some snap. But you don't cook, do you. I bet you grill. LOL! Where's my fork 'n' tongs?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Help! I'm surrounded by ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:42PM

assholes!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Well, Jewh8ter2 has dropped ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:43PM

most of it's "tards" comments. Adding "assholes" every two seconds, though.

What a goober. Too bad it can't afford a real life.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Still impersonating others, ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:45PM

though, asshole. Nice. Dumbfuq.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:47PM

Damn it Wrote:
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> Something tells me the breakfast burritos at
> Anita's are going to suck tomorrow morning.

Anita's? Try The Virginian for breakfast if you're in Vienna area. They serve it all day long. Good eats!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:48PM

Yes, I'm an asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: what a shithole ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:49PM

must've loved the 29 Diner.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Cracka say wut? ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:49PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Fun with numbers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How much larger than 13% is 87%?
>
> Ask a more intelligent question. The fact is that
> your problem people are twice as likely to be
> native-born as foreign-born. When are you
> douchebag honkies going to clean up your act?


My problem people? I'm half Puerto Rican and half Italian both right off of the boat. Does that qualify as a "honkie?" lmao

The fact is that the high school completion rate is significantly lower among immigrants. Much lower among Hispanic illegals even after multiple generations. The numbers are only larger in the case of native-born because there are far more. Which you very obviously understand but you're just being a fucktard and trying to play up numbers vs rate now in a weak attempt to prop up your own bullshit.

>
> > They still lag significantly even by third
> generation.
>
> Not very many lag behind you. Most for instance
> might have guessed that the comparison is apples
> to oranges, but that sailed right past you.

The rates are what they are. As much as you may like them not to be or pretend that they aren't.

Some more white guilt with your cracker, cracker?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:51PM

Well, Jewh8ter2 has dropped Wrote:
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> What a goober. Too bad it can't afford a real life.

LOL! The number of fucking digits in my bank balance is larger than the number of your active brain cells. Stupid goober dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0072 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:52PM

But they pay taxes. Or something. I don't know what. I don't even know why I hate Borders so much.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hmm not quite right ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:53PM

I don't think your 'statistics' count that a lot of central american women work as nannies for various families for the cheap ass white families who don't want to dish out on day care school and it doesn't include the many hispanic guys who work as random handymen and laborers. It also doesn't include the illegal immigrants who are working for chinese or korean sweatshop restaurants where they don't ask for legal documentation or the house cleaners who work out of their home. If you add those up the unemployment rate is much lower.

Hey, they're hard working, right Wrote:
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> er, no:
> "On average between 1994 and 2012, the
> unemployment rate among people born in Mexico or
> Central America was 7.0 percent, whereas the rate
> for native-born workers was 4.6 percent and for
> workers born in Asia, 4.5 percent. "
>
> bbuttheypaytaxesorsomething...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: You don't even have a "bank ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:54PM

balance", troll. Now get your shinebox.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: I said, "get your shinebox" ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:54PM

asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:54PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Yes, I'm an asshole.

How low is that actually when you have to resort to spoofing another poster's handle? Go explode yourself, you stupid worthless fucktard.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Winning hearts and minds ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:55PM

Asshole Report $14-0071 Wrote:
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> Winning hearts and minds Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > None at all.
>
> Trying to change horses in the middle of a stream?
> That's some fucking butthurt you've got going on.
>

Nope, I'll be here riding your old ass like a champ.

>
> > In fact, I very much like when you post. The
> more
> > the better. You do all the work of revealing
> what
> > a true blowhard asshole you are. And a great
> job
> > I might add. Please, continue...
>
> Well, it's getting late and you worthless assholes
> are getting lamer by the minute.


Past your bed time Grandpa. You old folks get cranky when you don't get your 5 hours of sleep. lol

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ohhh, it's pissy now. ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:56PM

whaa, whaa.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0073 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:56PM

Hey, I'm an asshole!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: uhh the vietnamese.... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:56PM

are not liked by many Asian nationalities who consider themselves better like the korean or japanese. Vietnamese is the bottom of the pole at the same level of salvador in terms of poverty.


The point is.. Wrote:
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> Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> > > infestation. Hilarious.
> >
> > So you totally missed the point. How many
> dozens
> > of times a day does that actually happen to
> you?
>
>
> Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically superior to
> El Salvadorians and Hondurans.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: How does it feel to be so wrong ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:57PM

about everything, asshole?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Man oh Man ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:58PM

DETROIT = FAIRFAX. My kids have graduated...time to get out. LOVE America, but this policy is WRONG. Illegal...it's as simple as that. They should not be allowed to be here living off everyone else hard work. Do it the legal way and I'm all for it. I have a friend who is Mexican and she joined the US Army to fight against the 9/11 terrorism and gained her citizenship the right way.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:58PM

what a shithole Wrote:
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> must've loved the 29 Diner.

Their partial reopening is at the end of the month. Probably September for full-scale operations.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: genetically superior ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:58PM

Nietzsche called and wants his reputation back from you asshole...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Yes but... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 10:59PM

uhh the vietnamese.... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> are not liked by many Asian nationalities who
> consider themselves better like the korean or
> japanese. Vietnamese is the bottom of the pole at
> the same level of salvador in terms of poverty.
>
>
> The point is.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our current
> > > > infestation. Hilarious.
> > >
> > > So you totally missed the point. How many
> > dozens
> > > of times a day does that actually happen to
> > you?
> >
> >
> > Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically superior
> to
> > El Salvadorians and Hondurans.


Yes, that is true, but the bottom end Asian still beats the bottom end Hispanic.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Meanwhile, at Denney's... ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:00PM

Our own racist troll holds court for his "genetically superior" thoughts & imaginary friends.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Is mexico like central america?? ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:01PM

Your mexican friend did it the right way very nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous gang like el salvador where the youngest of children are initiated? If you or your kids lived in those cities would you want to stay there and deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?

Man oh Man Wrote:
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> DETROIT = FAIRFAX. My kids have graduated...time
> to get out. LOVE America, but this policy is
> WRONG. Illegal...it's as simple as that. They
> should not be allowed to be here living off
> everyone else hard work. Do it the legal way and
> I'm all for it. I have a friend who is Mexican
> and she joined the US Army to fight against the
> 9/11 terrorism and gained her citizenship the
> right way.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: laughable ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:04PM

Maybe in your pea sized brain. At least latinos don't eat dogs and cats or their young or have major self esteem issues and self hatred! I guess that is considered high class for you?

Yes but... Wrote:
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> uhh the vietnamese.... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > are not liked by many Asian nationalities who
> > consider themselves better like the korean or
> > japanese. Vietnamese is the bottom of the pole
> at
> > the same level of salvador in terms of poverty.
> >
> >
> > The point is.. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Bull$hitter now Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Confuses Cubans & Vietnamese w/our
> current
> > > > > infestation. Hilarious.
> > > >
> > > > So you totally missed the point. How many
> > > dozens
> > > > of times a day does that actually happen to
> > > you?
> > >
> > >
> > > Vietnamese and Cubans are genetically
> superior
> > to
> > > El Salvadorians and Hondurans.
>
>
> Yes, that is true, but the bottom end Asian still
> beats the bottom end Hispanic.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:11PM

Cracka say wut? Wrote:
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> My problem people? I'm half Puerto Rican and half
> Italian both right off of the boat. Does that
> qualify as a "honkie?" lmao

Honky transcends race and ethnicity. Even a clueless dumbfuck ought to have known that.

> The fact is that the high school completion rate
> is significantly lower among immigrants. Much
> lower among Hispanic illegals even after multiple
> generations.

Why would that be? Have you adjusted for fucking anything?

> The numbers are only larger in the case of native-
> born because there are far more. Which you very
> obviously understand but you're just being a
> fucktard and trying to play up numbers vs rate now
> in a weak attempt to prop up your own bullshit.

Blow me, asshole. You're the goober who tried to hide the actual numbers behind your misleading unadjusted rates. Don't apply for any sort of math or statistics job. You'll just be laughed out of the building if all that is the best you can muster. Mindless assfuck.

> The rates are what they are.

Yes. Misleading. Which you still utterly fail to comprehend. What a dork!

> Some more white guilt with your cracker, cracker?

Guilt? None of this was any of my doing. Some bunch of racist low-grade assholes are the ones causing most of the problems here, worthless pieces of goober trash that they are.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: racial recap ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:12PM

13 Vietnam 94


27 El Salvador 80


http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html

Pho > Pupusas

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 9pWD7 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:14PM

Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
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> Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> children are initiated? If you or your kids lived
> in those cities would you want to stay there and
> deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
>


It does. Five in the top 25 in the world by murder rate.

Acapulco is 3rd at 112.8/100K
Culiacán 15th at 54.6/100K
Torreón 18th at 54.2
Chihuahua 21st at 50.1
Ciudad Victoria 22nd at 49.2

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:17PM

Winning hearts and minds Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Past your bed time Grandpa. You old folks get
> cranky when you don't get your 5 hours of sleep. lol

Got the All Star game on tape delay over here. Maybe once that's over. I'll head to bed. It's nice not to have to get up and go to work unless you want to. It's a pleasure that I suspect you'll never ever know. Ignorant fucking asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pay up cracka ()
Date: July 15, 2014 11:24PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cracka say wut? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My problem people? I'm half Puerto Rican and
> half
> > Italian both right off of the boat. Does that
> > qualify as a "honkie?" lmao
>
> Honky transcends race and ethnicity. Even a
> clueless dumbfuck ought to have known that.


So does being a pretentious asshole like you.


>
> > The fact is that the high school completion
> rate
> > is significantly lower among immigrants. Much
> > lower among Hispanic illegals even after
> multiple
> > generations.
>
> Why would that be? Have you adjusted for fucking
> anything?
>
> > The numbers are only larger in the case of
> native-
> > born because there are far more. Which you very
>
> > obviously understand but you're just being a
> > fucktard and trying to play up numbers vs rate
> now
> > in a weak attempt to prop up your own bullshit.
>
>
> Blow me, asshole. You're the goober who tried to
> hide the actual numbers behind your misleading
> unadjusted rates. Don't apply for any sort of
> math or statistics job. You'll just be laughed
> out of the building if all that is the best you
> can muster. Mindless assfuck.
>

There's no adjustment necessary to the rates/number. As you well know. You're the one now trying to count on the basis of raw numbers with no consideration of the relative numbers in the population.


> > The rates are what they are.
>
> Yes. Misleading. Which you still utterly fail to
> comprehend. What a dork!


Not at all misleading. They are the rates for each group. Because there are more or less of one or another doesn't change the respective rates.

>
> > Some more white guilt with your cracker,
> cracker?
>
> Guilt? None of this was any of my doing. Some
> bunch of racist low-grade assholes are the ones
> causing most of the problems here, worthless
> pieces of goober trash that they are.


You're white, you're guilty. You owe me cracker.

lmao

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 16, 2014 12:37AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> BeanCounter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Had per annum student growth rate remained
> > consistent to the five years leading up to
> > Connolly's statement....
>
> Your math skills are horrible, but why would you
> expect student growth rates to remain constant
> over any five year period, not to mention the ones
> in question? Are you just too oblivious to
> understand the foolishness in that?
>
> > The more you know.
>
> Or the less, in some cases.



I really hope you did not graduate from FCPS

The more insults & free flowing profanity someone throws is inverse indicator of intelligence

Who said student body growth should remain constant? That was not what was provided. It's called math. Remedial version once for free, after that there's a charge.

.36% per annum FCPS student body growth for period 2002 to 2007 increased to 1.7% per annum growth 2007 to 2014. Per annum rate increase 470%.

579.2 additional students/year avg 2002 to 2007

3347.6 additional students/year avg 2007 to 2012

Cause and effect dictate something happened to effect change of that magnitude.

The neighboring school district's county supervisors addressed illegal immigration's impact on their budget, schools, hospitals, police and other public services in 2007.

Fairfax County's supervisor Gerry Connolly then rolled out the welcome mat.

Draw your own conclusions.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: You didn't answer my question! ()
Date: July 16, 2014 12:45AM

Read and answer the question again please. Honduras is first in homocides and has the most dangerous city in the world. Mexico has a lot of drug trafficking coming in from central america but it's not as close. They don't have a severe gang problem either. Basically the reason salvadorans were granted asylum back in the 80's was because of the major violence going on in el salvador that is still going on. You should try speaking to a salvadoran and asking them about it! A mexican's story will pale in comparison to a person from central america.
9pWD7 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> > nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> > world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> > have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> > gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> > children are initiated? If you or your kids
> lived
> > in those cities would you want to stay there
> and
> > deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
> >
>
>
> It does. Five in the top 25 in the world by
> murder rate.
>
> Acapulco is 3rd at 112.8/100K
> Culiacán 15th at 54.6/100K
> Torreón 18th at 54.2
> Chihuahua 21st at 50.1
> Ciudad Victoria 22nd at 49.2

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ArtFromTheHeart ()
Date: July 16, 2014 01:04AM

Ted Velkoff from FCPS must idolize Gerry Connolly's Fairfax County Welcome Mat and Education for Illegals No Matter the Cost half-baked message!

Here's your sign, Velkoff & Connolly:
Attachments:
b&j.png

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: El Niño ()
Date: July 16, 2014 01:49AM

You didn't answer my question! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Read and answer the question again please.
> Honduras is first in homocides and has the most
> dangerous city in the world. Mexico has a lot of
> drug trafficking coming in from central america
> but it's not as close. They don't have a severe
> gang problem either. Basically the reason
> salvadorans were granted asylum back in the 80's
> was because of the major violence going on in el
> salvador that is still going on. You should try
> speaking to a salvadoran and asking them about it!
> A mexican's story will pale in comparison to a
> person from central america.


Depends on how you want to count it. Honduras has the highest rate but it has far fewer in number than many others. 7,172 vs 26,037 for Mexico, 50,108 for Brazil, 16,072 for Venezuela. The relatively small population for it as well as the other Central American countries of primary interest is what causes the rate to be very high. If you think that Mexico and the others don't have a gang and other similar organized crime problems, then you're nuts. They just have a large enough population otherwise to offset all of the murders as far as the rate goes.

Not to diminish that Honduras has some of the worst, but there are many others in the same general range. Once you get above a certain level a few 1,000s here or there really doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of difference in making it any more or less of a clusterfuck. e.g., 1/3 of the greater number of murders in Venezuela happen in one place (Caracas) vs 1/5 of a smaller of murders in Honduras happening in San Pedro Sula. Which is more dangerous? Who cares, they're both nightmares.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: how'sthat? ()
Date: July 16, 2014 02:42AM

How did the Illegals are Flooding Fairfax's Classrooms turn into a countries of Central America murder rate debate?

Mind the Thread people.


Now, how do you say that in Spanish, Urdu, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Hindi, Arabic, Farsi and every other language we pay to translate into?

Waiting for the shoe to drop when we start having to give homework to students in their native language without even expecting people to learn English.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: mrsoleary ()
Date: July 16, 2014 11:49AM

BeanCounter said FCPS student population was:

2002: 160,697
2007: 163,593 (+2,896)
2012: 177,435 (+13,842)
2014: 183,231 (+22,534)


If this is right, that does seem like an incredible increase. Has there been anything which explains the amount of increase?

Do other school systems in the area have this kind of increase?

I'll bet schools aren't allowed to ask whether students are legally in the US because the county probably doesn't want that information out there.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: thats legit ()
Date: July 16, 2014 02:30PM

Numbers are correct

There are the rapid changes occurring in our enrollment and demographics. Since FY 2010, overall enrollment has grown by more than 15,000 students. Since 2010, our ESOL population has increased by 51 percent and we are projecting that nearly 29,000 students will need ESOL services next year. Meanwhile the number of students eligible for Free and Reduced Price Meals has grown by 25 percent to more than 52,000 students next year. More than one in four FCPS students is now eligible for free or reduced price meals.

Source Chairman Moon presentation to Board of Supervisors

Its a good read for people who can actually read things

http://www.fcps.edu/news/fy2015/docs/bosremarks040814.pdf

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: are they afraid to tell us? ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:24PM

^ The link above explains the situation, but does not answer the previous poster's questions which are:

"If this is right, that does seem like an incredible increase. Has there been anything which explains the amount of increase?

Do other school systems in the area have this kind of increase?"


Will anyone answer these questions??????

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: unsafe in parts of the US ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:29PM

As for gang problems and homicides, the city of Chicago looks more and more like some of these Central American countries every day.

I would think that the danger level depends on where you are in each of these countries.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FWIW ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:33PM

List of 2013 cities with most homicides:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ummm are you an idiot? ()
Date: July 16, 2014 05:47PM

El Niño Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> You didn't answer my question! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Read and answer the question again please.
> > Honduras is first in homocides and has the most
> > dangerous city in the world. Mexico has a lot
> of
> > drug trafficking coming in from central america
> > but it's not as close. They don't have a severe
> > gang problem either. Basically the reason
> > salvadorans were granted asylum back in the
> 80's
> > was because of the major violence going on in
> el
> > salvador that is still going on. You should try
> > speaking to a salvadoran and asking them about
> it!
> > A mexican's story will pale in comparison to a
> > person from central america.
>
>
> Depends on how you want to count it. Honduras has
> the highest rate but it has far fewer in number
> than many others. 7,172 vs 26,037 for Mexico,
> 50,108 for Brazil, 16,072 for Venezuela. The
> relatively small population for it as well as the
> other Central American countries of primary
> interest is what causes the rate to be very high.
> If you think that Mexico and the others don't have
> a gang and other similar organized crime problems,
> then you're nuts. They just have a large enough
> population otherwise to offset all of the murders
> as far as the rate goes.
>
> Not to diminish that Honduras has some of the
> worst, but there are many others in the same
> general range. Once you get above a certain level
> a few 1,000s here or there really doesn't make a
> whole hell of a lot of difference in making it any
> more or less of a clusterfuck. e.g., 1/3 of the
> greater number of murders in Venezuela happen in
> one place (Caracas) vs 1/5 of a smaller of murders
> in Honduras happening in San Pedro Sula. Which is
> more dangerous? Who cares, they're both
> nightmares.

THe statistics are based on a city per 100,000 persons. Looking at that, more murders are done by 1 city in Honduras categorized as the most dangerous in the world. It's not the same idiot. Mexico has more cities and all of them are safer than acapulco. As a whole Honduras is plagued by gang, drug, and govt corruption problems. You can't answer the question yet you still want to be right. Stubborn fuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Statistician ()
Date: July 16, 2014 06:22PM

A city with a long history of electing democrats is guaranteed to have a high murder rate. And no, there is never a rational lib response to this inconvenient truth. When you vote democrat, you're supporting murder.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: reason why ()
Date: July 16, 2014 08:19PM

blacks vote nearly 100% democrat

imagine the outrage if white voted 100% republican

double standard much

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 16, 2014 09:26PM

Prince William
60,229 June 2002

72,654 June 2007 12,425

83,551 June 2012 23,322

85,847 June 2014 25,618


Loudoun
37,532 June 2002

50,740 June 2007 13,208

65,653 June 2012 28,121

70,858 June 2014 33,326


Comparing 2002-2007 to 2007-2012, the growth rate changes are staggering:
Fairfax 2007 to 2012 v. 2002 to 2007 370%
Loudoun 2007 to 2012 v. 2002 to 2007 -16.48%
Prince William 2007 to 2012 v. 2002 to 2007 -27.30%


If growth rates were comparable to the five years prior to 2007:
FCPS = 15,294 *fewer* students now
Loudoun = 306 additional students now
Prince William = 5,445 additional students now


It seems Prince William took steps it felt necessary and got the results to avoid having about 5,500 more students than they have now have.


Prince William's growth rate reduced radically in those comparative time periods. The recent growth from 2012-2014 compared to 2002-2007 has been cut -86.68%.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ReadThis ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:15PM

wondering how much this cost:
Attachments:
fcps arabic.PNG

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: By BY ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:20PM

Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> children are initiated? If you or your kids lived
> in those cities would you want to stay there and
> deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
>


Not my fucking problem. Bottom of the rung Illegal Hispanics are not welcome.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: neerbeer ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:27PM

bazinga.
Attachments:
fcps vietnamese.PNG

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pulp fiction ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:34PM

English mother fucker! Do you speak it..

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Math-tastic ()
Date: July 16, 2014 10:46PM

This isn't hard.

BeanCounter already gave the #s-


Prince William Board of Supervisors saw writing on wall in 2007 and acted decisively to comply with intent of federal immigration laws whether fed government closed border or not.

After they put public on notice and put ICE on speed dial, their school growth slammed to halt: -27.30% growth in next 5 yrs.

FCPS annual enrollment growth rate increased by 370% in same time.

Thanks Gerry Connolly for 2007 start on the downward slide the current Fairfax supervisors have done nothing about.

If FCPS school board or superintendent had any balls, they'd shout it from the mountaintop.

ICE needs to be Fairfax County's new best friend. Sorry, but we have our own in Bailey's, Rt.1, and more to take care of.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FreakEnomix ()
Date: July 16, 2014 11:53PM

Good grief almighty.

Can't you folks see that GDP equivalent in Virginia has been crushed since 2007?

http://econpost.com/virginiaeconomy/virginia-gdp-size-rank

The data for economic growth show Virginia GDP grew
nominally at 1.3% in real terms from 2007 to 2008.

During the years of 2000-2008, Virginia GDP grew at
an annual rate of 5.4% in nominal terms and in real
terms the economy grew by 2.8%.

The purple-ing [or blue-ing] is so very very bad for northern Virginia.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: but your dirty white shit poor ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:31AM

By BY Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Is mexico like central america?? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your mexican friend did it the right way very
> > nice. Now does Mexico have a city that is the
> > world's top in homicides like Honduras? Does it
> > have a city overrun by a vicious and dangerous
> > gang like el salvador where the youngest of
> > children are initiated? If you or your kids
> lived
> > in those cities would you want to stay there
> and
> > deal with it and 'wait' to be legal?
> >
>
>
> Not my fucking problem. Bottom of the rung Illegal
> Hispanics are not welcome.


but your dirty bottom of the barrel white trash ancestors were! and worse they lied and stole the last 240 years! Yeah but you grew to be a entitled shit who think his shit smells better than everyone else's. One day this land will go back to the ones who still have indian blood (hispanics)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: The Human League ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:44AM

FreakEnomix Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Good grief almighty.
>
> Can't you folks see that GDP equivalent in
> Virginia has been crushed since 2007?
>
> http://econpost.com/virginiaeconomy/virginia-gdp-s
> ize-rank
>
> The data for economic growth show
> Virginia GDP grew
> nominally at 1.3% in real terms from
> 2007 to 2008.
>
> During the years of 2000-2008, Virginia
> GDP grew at
> an annual rate of 5.4% in nominal terms
> and in real
> terms the economy grew by 2.8%.
>
> The purple-ing [or blue-ing] is so very very bad
> for northern Virginia.

Not sure if you are being serious... but like its kind of obvious what happened in 2008.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: EPIC ()
Date: July 17, 2014 01:25AM

The leaked EPIC report discusses the motivational factors of the illegal immigrants in their choice to migrate to the United States:

(U//LES) In late May, the U.S. Border Patrol interviewed unaccompanied children (UAC) and migrant families apprehended in the Rio Grande Valley. Of the 230 total migrants interviewed, 219 cited the primary reason for migrating to the United States was the perception of U.S. immigration laws granting free passes or permisos to UAC and adult female OTMs traveling with minors. Migrants indicated that knowledge of permisos was widespread across Central America due to word of mouth, local, and international media messaging—prompting many to depart for the United States within 30 days of becoming aware of these perceived benefits, according to the same reporting.

(U//LES) A majority of migrants interviewed also noted that they had encountered family units, consisting of a mother and child under the age of 18 during their journey to the United States and that the families had indicated they planned to surrender to U.S. authorities because they were informed that they would likely be released.

The EPIC report discusses the lack of correlation between violence rates in Central America and the current border crisis:

(U//LES) EPIC assesses homicide trends and migrant interviews suggest violence is likely not the principal factor driving the increase in UAC migration. While CBP data from early fiscal year 2011 indicates a steady increase in OTM and UAC migration, United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) statistics— within this same timeframe— show a decline in per capita homicide rates in these three countries; El Salvador saw the sharpest decline, followed by Honduras and Guatemala, respectively.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gunlover ()
Date: July 17, 2014 04:00AM

Any got grey hair?

Never Run Out of Ammo

Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People

Them or You

The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:09AM

Pay up cracka Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So does being a pretentious asshole like you.

Go fuck yourself, loser. You were an asshole when you got up this morning and will still be an asshole when you go to bed tonight. Intellectually, there is no functional justification for your existence. You bring nothing to the table and take nothing away. Sort of like a dead fish or a lump of coal. Worthless is one good word for it.

> There's no adjustment necessary to the rates/number. As you well know.

I certainly know a great deal more than you do in this area, one part of which is knowing that you cannot validly compare dissimilar populations. Dissimilarities not analyzed and not as necessary corrected for carry biases that move the numbers in ways not related to the thesis. This is pretty standard stuff for people who actually know what they are talking about. You plainly are not in that class. Not nearly.

> You're the one now trying to count on the basis of
> raw numbers with no consideration of the relative
> numbers in the population.

Kiss my ass, you worthless ignorant dumbfuck. Transparency calls for ALL the data to be on the table. You fucking march in here with your goober/doofus percentage-based claims and insinuations, then go all ape-shit when somebody comes along and posts the raw numbers behind those percentages, thus suggesting that your all your stooge-brained claims are the nonsense that they always have been. You're nothing but a dishonest piece of worthless partisan troll-shit. As I said, go fuck yourself, loser.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Our little troll is back, mad ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:13AM

as ever, with spittle flying as it furiously pounds cutnpaste talking points. How cute!

How is our little sock troll this AM?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Sock head ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:14AM

You all seem to have a picture burned into your minds that illegal immigrants are of hispanic origin. Through my line of work i know for a fact that you may find out there are large quantities of other people sharing social security numbers, names, and even birth certificates. Ive witnessedfirst hand and had to even terminate employment due to this problem. Ive seen Europeans (specifically Irish), African people from all over that continent (white and black), asians, and of course from all over the Middle East. So why none of the same outrage over any of those people? And trust me they arent here illegally working for pennies. You like so many others around here now are a racist.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: What "race" is Mexico, exactly? ()
Date: July 17, 2014 08:56AM

Brazil? El Salvador? Costa Rica?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:39AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I really hope you did not graduate from FCPS

Such relevance. If you need reassurance however, you may with confidence assume that I have graduated from a number of schools that you could never have gotten into.

> The more insults & free flowing profanity someone
> throws is inverse indicator of intelligence

False. Identifying devious and disinformed fucktards and then boldly labeling them as such is a high calling. Think in a similar vein of "Doctors Without Borders" out on the front lines inoculating those most at risk against the effects of an emerging plague. Get the picture?

> Who said student body growth should remain constant?

You did. That's why my reply pointed it out.

> It's called math. Remedial version once for free,
> after that there's a charge.

Your business model sucks. I am much more deeply versed in the field than you.

> .36% per annum FCPS student body growth for period
> 2002 to 2007 increased to 1.7% per annum growth
> 2007 to 2014. Per annum rate increase 470%.

Fathead, the rate of growth in FCPS membership has averaged 1.1% in this century. It was a little lower prior to the Great Recession and has been a little higher since. This sort of stability is why PROJECTED membership for FCPS has been in the 100-101% range of the subsequent ACTUAL membership in nearly all recent years. The exceptions in particular were 2007-08 and 2008-09. The general explanation of those two small underestimates has been that the severity of the Great Recession was not anticipated in projections and that marginal private and sectarian school families were unexpectedly forced by income effects to pull the plug and return to FCPS in those years.

> 579.2 additional students/year avg 2002 to 2007
> 3347.6 additional students/year avg 2007 to 2012
> Cause and effect dictate something happened to
> effect change of that magnitude.

The first cause here is cherry-picking. The second is failure to imagine any other contributing factors beyond the single stupid biased one that you wish to push forward. These are clown-claims, bro.

> The neighboring school district's county supervisors
> addressed illegal immigration's impact on their budget,
> schools, hospitals, police and other public services
> in 2007.

LOLOLOL! Owing to its socio-economically disastrous results, the PWC anti-immigrant ordinance was amended in substance a mere six months after it went into effect, and it was never actually enforced by anyone. None of the goals or aims of the ordinance were ever actually met or achieved, but the adverse effects on county image, cash-flow, and levels of economic activity were indeed notable. This is why PWC beat such a hasty retreat, a rush to backtrack to the point where the county today is majority-minority with the foreign-born comprising 21% of the population and 30.3% of the population speaking a language other than English at home. Compare that 2010 number to the 16.3% number from 2000. You are reporting here from La-la-land, dude, not from Prince William County.

> Fairfax County's supervisor Gerry Connolly then rolled
> out the welcome mat. Draw your own conclusions.

By that, you mean that Fairfax was not stupid enough to follow PWC's disastrously failed lead. Thank goodness for that!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:49AM

mrsoleary Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> BeanCounter said FCPS student population was:
>
> 2002: 160,697
> 2007: 163,593 (+2,896)
> 2012: 177,435 (+13,842)
> 2014: 183,231 (+22,534)
>
> If this is right, that does seem like an
> incredible increase.

Though the unsourced data themselves are correct enough here, the numbers in parentheses represent a 5-year change, another 5-year change, and then a fucking 12-year change!!! Honest mistake? Hahahahaha! This is the self-proclaimed math whiz at work here. He wants to tutor other people at ti. This was a crude and deliberate FALSIFICATION of the data done in an attempt to suggest changes that have never occurred. We sometimes call this sort of behavior LYING!!!

> Has there been anything which explains the amount of increase?

Good question. I wonder why Math Whiz Boy never asked or answered it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "actually enforced by anyone" ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:53AM

Except as noted by that notorious anti illegal immigration rag, the WaPo: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/06/AR2010050602382.html

Troll = wrong again...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: OMG!!!! THE NUMBERS!!!! ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:54AM

So, what's your (alleged) point? MB is using the same scale throughout. Selecting ranges and yelling "poopoohead" isn't exactly showing mental acuity.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Troll still won't answer Qs.. ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:56AM

but still in spittle flecked rage.

They're Illegal, rage boy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: IllegalIllegalIllegal... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:57AM

just to piss off irrational rage boy some more...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Get your shinebox, troll... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 09:57AM

Illegal

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Teacher Friend ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:04AM

I have a teacher friend at a prominently Hispanic Elementary School in Herndon and she is really frustrated with the number of kids in her class who are struggling academically. These kids barely speak English, have difficult family lives and are getting lost in the system. The problem continues to get worse and as much as she tries, these kids might be in a better position here in the states, but in the long run they will continue to have trouble assimilate to the new culture.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ummmm...nope. ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:05AM

Yes, I have been in the emergency room lately. the guy who came in after me didn't speak english, didn't have insurance and (against HIPAA guidelines) the receptionist was bitching to me about it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:11AM

thats legit Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Numbers are correct

The math isn't.

> Source Chairman Moon presentation to Board of
> Supervisors. Its a good read for people who can
> actually read things

Here's another interesting quote from it...

"We have reached a tipping point where the underfunding of our schools at both the county and state levels for the past several years has led us to where we now face a distressing reality – one that suggests there is very real and troubling evidence that our great school system is beginning to show signs of decline."

Investments in maintaining not just good but excellent public schools have been among the linchpins of the economic growth and progress of Fairfax County over the past 20 years. Walk away from that, and all bets are off. We can become a has-been county much more quickly than many might suspect. Drain the oil out of a Mercedes and see how far you can drive it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Troll really trying to divert... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:33AM

from getting it's little ass kicked again.

BTW, FCPS's heyday was in the early 90s. Get with the 21st Century, jewh8ter.

(FWIW, total $/pupil actual spending increase > inflation. Shitty ROI there)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Even MSNBC now understanding ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:45AM

concept of "illegal"

Liberal heads explode. Hilarity ensues.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FrickinFrustratedinFairfax ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:53AM

My wife and I are trying to find a house in Fairfax in one of the decent school zones at a reasonable price. The problem is, all of the houses we can afford (under a half million) are in school zones infested with illegal immigrants. My daughter's school sucks because of them and just gets worse and worse. A once strong school system is crumbling...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: under .5M? ... ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:56AM

and I'm betting that back in Kansas you thought wages here were superdeduperhigh, amiright?

Get the fuck out. Goober. Must be a teapartier.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 17, 2014 10:57AM

FrickinFrustratedinFairfax Wrote:
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> My wife and I are trying to find a house in
> Fairfax in one of the decent school zones at a
> reasonable price. The problem is, all of the
> houses we can afford (under a half million) are in
> school zones infested with illegal immigrants. My
> daughter's school sucks because of them and just
> gets worse and worse. A once strong school system
> is crumbling...

Well too bad!

I pay over $10k a year in property taxes so I have out priced the problem.

My income is unearned income, so I don't have to pay the tax rate that most of you peasants have to pay.


Unlike you peasents who cut your own lawns, I hire migrants to cut mine!

Hahhaa I'm living the good life!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: private schools are the way togo ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:35AM

FrickinFrustratedinFairfax Wrote:
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> My wife and I are trying to find a house in
> Fairfax in one of the decent school zones at a
> reasonable price. The problem is, all of the
> houses we can afford (under a half million) are in
> school zones infested with illegal immigrants. My
> daughter's school sucks because of them and just
> gets worse and worse. A once strong school system
> is crumbling...


Buy a house you like and just send your kids to private school. FCPS are turning to shit, which is why private schools around here are becoming more popular. Just look at PVI.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:38AM

Hispanic/Latino #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 22,556 14.00%

2014 43,211 23.60%


Black/African American #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 16,909 10.50%

2014 18,840 10.30%


Asian #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 25,771 16.00%

2014 35,670 19.50%


As percentage of total FCPS student population
Blacks dropped -1.9%
Asians increased +21.88%
Hispanic increased +68.57%

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Petulant Lib ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:42AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> Hispanic/Latino #s and % of total FCPS students
>
> 2002 22,556 14.00%
>
> 2014 43,211 23.60%
>
>
> Black/African American #s and % of total FCPS
> students
>
> 2002 16,909 10.50%
>
> 2014 18,840 10.30%
>
>
> Asian #s and % of total FCPS students
>
> 2002 25,771 16.00%
>
> 2014 35,670 19.50%
>
>
> As percentage of total FCPS student population
> Blacks dropped -1.9%
> Asians increased +21.88%
> Hispanic increased +68.57%

STOP CONFUSING US WITH FACTS!!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Panties all in a bunch ()
Date: July 17, 2014 11:47AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Pay up cracka Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So does being a pretentious asshole like you.
>
> Go fuck yourself, loser. You were an asshole when
> you got up this morning and will still be an
> asshole when you go to bed tonight.
> Intellectually, there is no functional
> justification for your existence. You bring
> nothing to the table and take nothing away. Sort
> of like a dead fish or a lump of coal. Worthless
> is one good word for it.
>

I'm sorry that you're a pretentious asshole. Feel better now?


> > There's no adjustment necessary to the
> rates/number. As you well know.
>
> I certainly know a great deal more than you do in
> this area, one part of which is knowing that you
> cannot validly compare dissimilar populations.
> Dissimilarities not analyzed and not as necessary
> corrected for carry biases that move the numbers
> in ways not related to the thesis. This is pretty
> standard stuff for people who actually know what
> they are talking about. You plainly are not in
> that class. Not nearly.
>

You certainly can validly compare dissimilar populations, and many other dissimilar things, without "adjustment." If that were not the case, then that would exclude most demographic comparisons. And you definitely can compare graduation rates between different racial groups. There may need to be some adjustment to specific data sets to make them comparable and there may be underlying reasons for and differences between the groups which require some further understanding and explanation in order to interpret and explain the results, but the comparison of such data in and of itself is valid. Simply because they are dissimilar does not necessarily imply required "adjustment."

The graduation rates for respective demographic groups are what they are. Even where proper data adjustments are made, the results are the same. There are no valid data or methods "adjustment" which you can make which will change that immigrant, and specifically recent Hispanic immigrant, graduation rates significantly lag those of other groups.


> > You're the one now trying to count on the basis
> of
> > raw numbers with no consideration of the
> relative
> > numbers in the population.
>
> Kiss my ass, you worthless ignorant dumbfuck.
> Transparency calls for ALL the data to be on the
> table. You fucking march in here with your
> goober/doofus percentage-based claims and
> insinuations, then go all ape-shit when somebody
> comes along and posts the raw numbers behind those
> percentages, thus suggesting that your all your
> stooge-brained claims are the nonsense that they
> always have been. You're nothing but a dishonest
> piece of worthless partisan troll-shit. As I
> said, go fuck yourself, loser.

Says the dumbshit who regularly cherry picks whatever works best for the argument being made at the time, omitting that which does not. And who just tried to blatantly distort things by comparing raw numbers with no consideration of the relative sizes of the populations. lol!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:02PM

Petulant Lib Wrote:
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> > STOP CONFUSING US WITH FACTS!!!!


^You're welcome.


White #s and % of total FCPS students

2002 89,530 55.80%

2014 75,962 41.40%


As % of FCPS student population

White students dropped -25.81%

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: great choices ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:19PM

The guy on here who is in his 50's or 60's or whatever and who keeps posting incessantly about how much money he has and that he has no kids does not matter. He's almost dead. The people who matter are the ones actually paying taxes out of earned income (not him). They are the the majority of residents here and what happens to their salaries and their expenses is what matters going forward in this county. If they don't have as much money, there is nothing that Mr. Rich can say that will change how they vote and how they view illegals coming in here. Mr. Rich is not in touch with reality. The working people who have children have even more incentive to keep high quality schools here. There is nothing worse than working hard, paying more taxes, and sending your kid to a school where he/she is not receiving an education that is appropriately challenging and interesting. As someone above noted, the people who value a high level of education are looking for areas of the county where they can get that. That behavior will further segregate the county economically. The achievement gap follows. Either spend the most you can on a house or give it up and use the money for private school for your kids (or don't have kids and pay for the illegals' kids).

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Mr. Rich = our little troll ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:49PM

and of course, it isn't "rich" or anything - just spewing talking points. Note the language use...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: GPS ()
Date: July 17, 2014 12:52PM

Mr. Rich = our little troll Wrote:
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> and of course, it isn't "rich" or anything - just
> spewing talking points. Note the language use...


Yeah. Time for him to get off the information superhighway.

How-to-Make-Money-Online-and-be-Famous-S

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dont feed the troll ()
Date: July 17, 2014 02:13PM

Its not a racial thing

Its the unsustainable increase in ESOL and FRMS and ILLLEGAL immigration

Long term this county is screwed

More and more people requiring services = higher taxes and lower quality education in other parts of the county. The increasing class sizes are just the beginning.

I'm not talking for everyone either. Class sizes in the Northern aka richer part of the county have increased to over 30 persons per class at the Elementary level.


If you are spending more for some people you have to reduce quality/spending for others or increase taxes. Are people really going to like having their taxes go up for reduced quality in education just so the illegals can keep cashing in.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Schools Crippled ()
Date: July 17, 2014 05:12PM

FCPS has deteriorated dramatically over the last two decades. That deterioration is accelerating. What is the school board doing? Undertaking a $5.6 million project to change the school day when it is clear that there are many other costs (traffic etc.) associated with the change. This is the type of thing that is very frustrating to county taxpayers and home owners.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 17, 2014 05:37PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> mrsoleary Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BeanCounter said FCPS student population was:
> >
> > 2002: 160,697
> > 2007: 163,593 (+2,896)
> > 2012: 177,435 (+13,842)
> > 2014: 183,231 (+22,534)
> >
> > If this is right, that does seem like an
> > incredible increase.
>
> Though the unsourced data themselves are correct
> enough here, the numbers in parentheses represent
> a 5-year change, another 5-year change, and then a
> fucking 12-year change!!! Honest mistake?
> Hahahahaha! This is the self-proclaimed math whiz
> at work here. He wants to tutor other people at
> ti. This was a crude and deliberate FALSIFICATION
> of the data done in an attempt to suggest changes
> that have never occurred. We sometimes call this
> sort of behavior LYING!!!
>
> > Has there been anything which explains the
> amount of increase?
>
> Good question. I wonder why Math Whiz Boy never
> asked or answered it.


Agreed I posted one number from the wrong set of calculations when providing the FCPS figures.
I have no side, there's no falsification. It was just change over time increase versus change from previous increase.

160,697 June 2002

163,593 June 2007 +2,896

177,435 June 2012 +16,738

183,231 June 2014 +22,534

It's just data from the public school websites in Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William and anyone can look it up and run the numbers.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: knockout ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:01AM

Students in FCPS are one thing with it costs the system to educate them but the ones who don't graduate are the bigger cost.

The dropout numbers for white students is .47%
For hispanic students it's more than 7 times that rate at 3.33%.
The dropout for blacks is less than half the hispanics at 1.51%

Dropouts cost more and return less.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: American Taxpayer ()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:33AM

as a tax paying American who has to fight tooth and nail for IEP and school services for my child who is a brain tumor survivor with medical impairments, I am outraged by this nonsense. if one of these illegals harmed a child or committed some other criminal act, I bet all these do-gooders would change their tunes in a NY minute! they are here ILLEGALLY. period. end of story. ILLEGAL is just that. send them somewhere else, I shudder to think that they are right down the street from my home and being taken care of when so many americans struggle every day to provide for their families!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 3GYwU ()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:36AM

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:51AM

Statistician Wrote:
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> A city with a long history of electing democrats
> is guaranteed to have a high murder rate. And no,
> there is never a rational lib response to this
> inconvenient truth. When you vote democrat,
> you're supporting murder.

And how have things worked out in proper cities with a long history of electing Republicans? You know, like er...um...ah...hmmm. It doesn't seem like there actually ARE any proper cities with a history of electing Republicans. This is perhaps because Republicans so thoroughly tend to fail whenever there is actually something more than the catching of dogs to be governed. Or perhaps it's because the GOP is really just the party of low-intelligence, low-information rural goobers, hicks, and hayseeds still stuck within a Laura Ingalls world and the bounds of outdated myth and superstition. Or maybe there's another explanation. Whatever the explanation is, the fact remains that where people tend to congregate, they also tend to elect Democrats.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Repot #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:01AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> It seems Prince William took steps it felt
> necessary and got the results to avoid having
> about 5,500 more students than they have now
> have.

No, they got potfuls of results that nobody wanted. The immigration ordinance was in effect for all of two months before it was gutted and the Great Apology Tour began instead. I wonder what the cost to remaining taxpayers was for printing up and passing out all those color glossy brochures about how they didn't really mean it and it was safe to work and shop in PWC once again.

> Prince William's growth rate reduced radically in
> those comparative time periods. The recent growth
> from 2012-2014 compared to 2002-2007 has been cut
> -86.68%.

Percents of percents again? Second derivatives may be interesting, but they certainly conceal quite a lot. Why are you trying to hide behind them? In my case, I believe that it's because you fully realize that you otherwise have no actual case to make here.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:10AM

Math-tastic Wrote:
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> FCPS annual enrollment growth rate increased by
> 370% in same time.

In case you missed it, actual FCPS membership has increased at a rate of just about 1.1% per year. A little lower than that prior to the Great Recession and a little higher than that since. Like those of Mark Twain's death, rumors of any sort of classroom flooding are greatly exaggerated.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Rport #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:23AM

IllegalIllegalIllegal... Wrote:
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> just to piss off irrational rage boy some more...

Dude, we all know that you can't either keep up or contribute here, but someone should step up and point out that your hair appears to be on fire.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Our little troll is back... ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:28AM

still flinging irrelevance.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:34AM

Panties all in a bunch Wrote:
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> I'm sorry that you're a pretentious asshole. Feel
> better now?

I'm fine as always, you ignorant prick-faced asshole.

> You certainly can validly compare dissimilar
> populations, and many other dissimilar things,
> without "adjustment."

> There may need to be some adjustment to specific
> data sets to make them comparable...

Contradict yourself much, goober? Face it. You don't know shit about this topic or any other topic that has come up in the thread. You're just a worthless dumbfuck asshole and nothing more.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:35AM

And I spewspewspew....

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:42AM

Schools Crippled Wrote:
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> FCPS has deteriorated dramatically over the last
> two decades.

How have you determined this? Would others following the same methodology be apt to arrive at the same or at least a similar conclusion?

> What is the school board doing? Undertaking a $5.6
> million project to change the school day when it
> is clear that there are many other costs (traffic
> etc.) associated with the change. This is the type
> of thing that is very frustrating to county
> taxpayers and home owners.

The push to change FCPS bell schedules arises from outside interests -- namely the dupes enslaved by the TEA Party-like reactionaries at SLEEP, Inc.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:52AM

Yep, I'm jewh8ter2. Same shit, different sock.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:03AM

BeanCounter Wrote:
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> Agreed I posted one number from the wrong set of
> calculations when providing the FCPS figures.

The fan club may not approve, but at least you are man enough to admit the obvious error when it is finally pointed out to you.

> I have no side, there's no falsification.

I would disagree. You continue to distort and misuse the data in attempts to support claims that are not valid. Actually independent observers and analysts do not succumb to such temptations.

> It was just change over time increase versus
> change from previous increase.

> 160,697 June 2002
> 163,593 June 2007 +2,896
> 177,435 June 2012 +16,738
> 183,231 June 2014 +22,534

> It's just data from the public school websites in
> Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William and anyone
> can look it up and run the numbers.

I am more than well aware of the source of the data, but you have even here put the data into a biased framework, one that leads readers toward the making of assumptions that are simply not warranted. The "shocking increases" suggested by what YOU have put into Column-3 are not a reflection of reality.

If you simply took the 160,697 membership from 2002 and expanded that by 1.1% per year, the result you would get for 2014 would be 183,241. Isn't that a fact?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Panties all up you ass ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:09AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Panties all in a bunch Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm sorry that you're a pretentious asshole.
> Feel
> > better now?
>
> I'm fine as always, you ignorant prick-faced
> asshole.
>

Yes, you're doing a fine job of being a pretentious asshole. As always.


> > You certainly can validly compare dissimilar
> > populations, and many other dissimilar things,
> > without "adjustment."
>
> > There may need to be some adjustment to
> specific
> > data sets to make them comparable...
>
> Contradict yourself much, goober? Face it. You
> don't know shit about this topic or any other
> topic that has come up in the thread. You're just
> a worthless dumbfuck asshole and nothing more.

I know that, as much as you hate the reality and try to obscure it with bullshit, the fact is that immigrant graduation rates and particularly Hispanic rates significantly lag those of non-immigrants. Why you'd even be arguing the fact beyond just being your usual asshole self, I don't know.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:23AM

Because I can.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:27AM

American Taxpayer Wrote:
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> as a tax paying American who has to fight tooth
> and nail for IEP and school services for my child
> who is a brain tumor survivor with medical
> impairments, I am outraged by this nonsense.

Blow it out your ass, Miss Piggy. The taxes of immigrant workers are paying the extra costs of your IEP and the special attention and assistance your child receives on account of his/her special needs. Which is of course exactly what should happen. Just as kids for whom English is a second language should be receiving special attention and assistance. What's good for the goose...

> If one of these illegals harmed a child or committed
> some other criminal act, I bet all these do-gooders
> would change their tunes in a NY minute!

Fuck off, bitch. Nobody advocates immunity from criminal prosecution for anyone. The problem here is all the redneck goober assholes who want to treat all vaguely Hispanic-looking people (and often enough all vaguely Middle Eastern-looking people as well) as if they were criminals. Get the fuck off the pot with that total nonsense, moron-woman.

> they are here ILLEGALLY. period. end of story.
> ILLEGAL is just that.

Do you know what a status-crime is, dearie? It's what the Nazis did to the Jews, and -- kind of ironically -- it's what Israel often does to Palestinians. Make it a law that people you don't like need to have a piece of paper just to walk around. Then make the pieces of paper scarce. Then complain that all these people without papers are evil lawbreakers. It's a phony shell-game. A third-grader should be able to see through it.

> I shudder to think that they are right down
> the street from my home and being taken care
> of when so many americans struggle every day
> to provide for their families!

Seriously? Then you are one clueless dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:29AM

I've got talking points. Goober assholes.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:39AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> And I spewspewspew....

LOLOLOLOLOL!!! As if ANYONE would mistake a worthless whimpering fucktard for the actual man behind the actual handle. Stupid assfuck. But thanks for playing and all...
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ah, antisemitism in every thread ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:50AM

Courtesy of Asshole #9 and Zyklon B.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:02AM

Panties all up you ass Wrote:
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> Yes, you're doing a fine job of being a
> pretentious asshole. As always.

Perhaps oddly and perhaps not, total dumbfucks often seem to believe that those with capacities and capabilities broadly and vastly superior to their own are somehow being "pretentious". It's like a goober trait to think that or something. Like the people who regularly beat the crap out of them at sports or pool or poker or whatever are all just a bunch of "showoffs". Isn't that right, Envy-Boy?

> I know that, as much as you hate the reality and
> try to obscure it with bullshit, the fact is that
> immigrant graduation rates and particularly
> Hispanic rates significantly lag those of
> non-immigrants.

No one has disagreed with that, you mindless assfuck. The problems come from the ignorant racist asshole fucktard conclusions you draw from that, all the while claiming not yourself to be an ignorant racist asshole fucktard.

> Why you'd even be arguing the fact beyond just being
> your usual asshole self, I don't know.

Let's face it, dumbfuck. The list of things you don't know is super-long. No one -- least of all yourself -- should be surprised in the least by the event of your not knowing something.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: MarkMcW ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:09AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> If you simply took the 160,697 membership from
> 2002 and expanded that by 1.1% per year, the
> result you would get for 2014 would be 183,241.
> Isn't that a fact?

Then why does FCPS keep asking for so much more money?
Or could it be 1%+ of a big number compounded each year is a lot of growth?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: StickItBarry ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:10AM

Most Voters Want to Send Latest Illegal Immigrants Home ASAP

Thursday, July 17, 2014

Most voters don’t want any of the young illegal immigrants who’ve recently arrived here housed in their state and say any legislation passed by Congress to deal with the problem should focus on sending them home as soon as possible.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the primary focus of any new immigration legislation passed by Congress should be to send the young illegal immigrants back home as quickly as possible. Just 27% say it should focus instead on making it easier for these illegal immigrants to remain in the United States. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Full story here:


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2014/most_voters_want_to_send_latest_illegal_immigrants_home_asap

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Panties stuffed in your mouth ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:22AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Panties all up you ass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, you're doing a fine job of being a
> > pretentious asshole. As always.
>
> Perhaps oddly and perhaps not, total dumbfucks
> often seem to believe that those with capacities
> and capabilities broadly and vastly superior to
> their own are somehow being "pretentious". It's
> like a goober trait to think that or something.
> Like the people who regularly beat the crap out of
> them at sports or pool or poker or whatever are
> all just a bunch of "showoffs". Isn't that right,
> Envy-Boy?


Oh yeah, I've always wanted to be a pretentious asshole. lol

I happily concede the title for that one to you. Congrats, you're King of Assholes.


>
> > I know that, as much as you hate the reality
> and
> > try to obscure it with bullshit, the fact is
> that
> > immigrant graduation rates and particularly
> > Hispanic rates significantly lag those of
> > non-immigrants.
>
> No one has disagreed with that, you mindless
> assfuck. The problems come from the ignorant
> racist asshole fucktard conclusions you draw from
> that, all the while claiming not yourself to be an
> ignorant racist asshole fucktard.


Actually you did.

>
> > Why you'd even be arguing the fact beyond just
> being
> > your usual asshole self, I don't know.
>
> Let's face it, dumbfuck. The list of things you
> don't know is super-long. No one -- least of all
> yourself -- should be surprised in the least by
> the event of your not knowing something.


I know that you're a pretentious asshole. As does everyone else here. As does everyone else in your miserable life.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:28AM

MarkMcW Wrote:
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> Then why does FCPS keep asking for so much more money?

So much more money??? Plainly, you don't even understand the question.

> Or could it be 1%+ of a big number compounded each
> year is a lot of growth?

Well, in this case it led to an increase of 22,544 students over the course of 12 years, an average of 1,879 new students per year. The point, however, was that some of the rates being bandied about by partisans earlier were gross distortions of reality.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:30AM

StickItBarry Wrote:
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> Most Voters Want to Send Latest Illegal Immigrants
> Home ASAP

Are these the same people who were so sure that there were WMD in Iraq? Maybe we should follow the founders and learn not to ask these people very many questions.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: I love me some illegals... er, ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:37AM

http://www.city-journal.org/html/12_2_do_we_want.html

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:42AM

Panties stuffed in your mouth Wrote:
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> Oh yeah, I've always wanted to be a pretentious
> asshole. lol I happily concede the title for that
> one to you. Congrats, you're King of Assholes.
> I know that you're a pretentious asshole. As does
> everyone else here. As does everyone else in your
> miserable life.

Waaa, waaa, waaa! The bad man made the poor wittle boy feel bad...
.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pissy Panties ()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:20AM

Gaping Prolapsed Asshole Wrote:
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> Waaa, waaa, waaa! The bad man made the poor
> wittle boy feel bad...
> .


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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:22AM

Anger? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Poopy Panties ()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:30AM

Anal fissure Wrote:
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> Anger? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!


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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Game Set Match ()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:38AM

% increase of ESOL through the roof
% increase of FARMS through the roof
% increase of services demanded through the roof

Ben Dover Fairfax

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: we ARE rich ()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:53AM

Looks like FCPS has plenty of money:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-ends-the-year-with-million-in-unspent-cash-again/2014/07/17/239f1dda-0dca-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23_story.html

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: thanks asshole report! ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:15PM

we ARE rich Wrote:
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> Looks like FCPS has plenty of money:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fair
> fax-ends-the-year-with-million-in-unspent-cash-aga
> in/2014/07/17/239f1dda-0dca-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23
> _story.html

Asshole report paid his real estate tax late, they weren't budgeting in the millions they would get from him.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: SillyKniggits ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:18PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Well, in this case it led to an increase of 22,544
> students over the course of 12 years, an average
> of 1,879 new students per year. The point,
> however, was that some of the rates being bandied
> about by partisans earlier were gross distortions
> of reality.


well well well. lookee who's distorting numbers now! "dude, that was years ago".

you can't average student growth over a dozen years and say it's only 1879 more a year.

when 3000 kids show up in one year, any school system is screwed. scratch that. the taxpayers are royally screwed and then some.

that's more than most high schools! just popping up out of where? even the flattened rate over 12 years of almost 1900 that doesn't take into account bigger recent increases is bad. we don't teach kids in bounce house blow up schools.

yet.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report # 14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:19PM

we ARE rich Wrote:
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> Looks like FCPS has plenty of money:

Well, we have an asshole surplus, that's for sure. The budget is fucking SUPPOSED to result in small end-of-year unexpended balances. That's because it is so much easier to deal with surpluses than with shortfalls. Obviously, you (and I'm sure many other dumbfucks here) are just TOO FUCKING STUPID to have figured that out. The FFXU dunce-factor rears its ugly head once again.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: SillyKniggits ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:20PM

PS AR #14-0071

You know what I do in your general direction. Take your coconuts and go.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:27PM

thanks asshole report! Wrote:
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> Asshole report paid his real estate tax late, they
> weren't budgeting in the millions they would get
> from him.

ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY

It's uncomfortable being such a fucking failure in life, isn't it, you pathetic little goober-shit loser. I'd invite you to drive by my place just to make you feel a little worse, but you can't really see it from the road. Isn't it about time for you to vacuum that 350 sqft condo, btw? Worthless dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: makes no sense ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:30PM

It's not so much that they have a surplus as that they SB is allowed to use their discretion on how to spend it (and they report here that in the past it has been spent on Blackberrys and turf fields). THAT is the problem. There should be oversight (regs) on how the surplus can be spent and it shouldn't be for this kind of stuff. They want to implement a meals tax when this is going on? Right.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: not the one cursing. ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:30PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> thanks asshole report! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Asshole report paid his real estate tax late,
> they
> > weren't budgeting in the millions they would
> get
> > from him.
>
> ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...ENVY...E
> NVY...ENVY
>
> It's uncomfortable being such a fucking failure in
> life, isn't it, you pathetic little goober-shit
> loser. I'd invite you to drive by my place just
> to make you feel a little worse, but you can't
> really see it from the road. Isn't it about time
> for you to vacuum that 350 sqft condo, btw?
> Worthless dumbfuck.


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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:42PM

SillyKniggits Wrote:
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> well well well. lookee who's distorting numbers
> now! "dude, that was years ago".

Go fuck yourself, you ignorant worthless turd-muncher. 2014 is fucking THIS YEAR. Are you so fucked up as to be unable to get the concept of THIS FUCKING YEAR through your head? What a god-awful dumbfuck.

> you can't average student growth over a dozen
> years and say it's only 1879 more a year.

ATTENTION ALL HOPELESS DUMBFUCKS AND ASSHOLES: When growth over 12 years amounts to 22,544 students, then the average annual student increase across those 12 years was 22,544 divided by 12 equals 1,879. That's the FUCKING DEFINITION of an average, you mindless fucking moron.

And all that fucking explosion in enrollment you useless goober fucktards forever whine over has actually been a measly 1.1% per year. You fucking stooge-fucks are just plain batshit stupid. That's all there is to it. Too fucking dumb.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:48PM

SillyKniggits Wrote:
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> PS AR #14-0071 You know what I do in your general
> direction. Take your coconuts and go.

Blow me, you worthless ignorant asshole. You and your consistently shit-faced goober blabber are of utterly no consequence. Go soak in your misery and envy, you pathetic dickless failure.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:52PM

makes no sense Wrote:
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> It's not so much that they have a surplus as that
> they SB is allowed to use their discretion on how
> to spend it (and they report here that in the past
> it has been spent on Blackberrys and turf fields).
> THAT is the problem. There should be oversight
> (regs) on how the surplus can be spent and it
> shouldn't be for this kind of stuff. They want to
> implement a meals tax when this is going on?
> Right.

Standard practice to allow such trivial amounts to be reprogrammed at executive discretion at the end of a fiscal year. What desert island have you been stuck on all these years?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: A New Name? ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:53PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Blow me, you worthless ignorant asshole. You and
> your consistently shit-faced goober blabber are of
> utterly no consequence. Go soak in your misery
> and envy, you pathetic dickless failure.

Let's see... who on FU writes like this? Hmmmm...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:56PM

not the one cursing. Wrote:
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...
You be the CURSEE, you miserable worthless lying dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 01:01PM

A New Name? Wrote:
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> Let's see... who on FU writes like this? Hmmmm...

I do, moron. It's the fourth fucking page of the thread. How fucking slow on the take-up are you, asshole?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: K7Cuh ()
Date: July 18, 2014 01:08PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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>
> > you can't average student growth over a dozen
> > years and say it's only 1879 more a year.
>
> ATTENTION ALL HOPELESS DUMBFUCKS AND ASSHOLES:
> When growth over 12 years amounts to 22,544
> students, then the average annual student increase
> across those 12 years was 22,544 divided by 12
> equals 1,879. That's the FUCKING DEFINITION of an
> average, you mindless fucking moron.
>


What was the increase in Hispanic students over that same time?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gerrymandarer2 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 01:10PM

A New Name? Wrote:
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> Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Blow me, you worthless ignorant asshole. You
> and
> > your consistently shit-faced goober blabber are
> of
> > utterly no consequence. Go soak in your misery
> > and envy, you pathetic dickless failure.
>
> Let's see... who on FU writes like this? Hmmmm...

Ahhh you finally got me, took you long enough!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Frustrated in Fairfax ()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:09PM

I don't know if too many people on this thread have firsthand knowledge of the "flood" of students, but those of us with kids in the system see it and have felt it. My daughter was in a preschool where the afterschool teacher was an immigrant (legal, I assumed) and as soon as the lead teacher would leave, she would only speak Spanish to the students that were there (70% in the afterschool were Hispanic). She ignored my daughter and ostracized her. I saw this happen twice before lodging a complaint and moving her out of that shoddy-ass program. Her Elementary school is ridiculous. What could be a good school has so many kids that can't communicate in English that the teacher has to focus on them leaving my kid not getting the instruction she deserves. Kids are asked to purchase supplies through the school so so the "newcomers" who get the freebies will have the same backpack and pencils and crayons and not feel left out.

Some of you might wonder about the numbers being manpulated, but I know what I see with my own eyes, and it tells me that this immigration/infestation/invasion is destroying this school system, this tax base and this country.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: No such thing as a free lunch... ()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:14PM

Here's an interesting piece of information I found. If you look at the schools in the Fairfax County Public Schools, then look at their hispanic population and the percentage of students receiving free or reduced lunch, the numbers are within a couple of percentage points. For instance, Providence Elementary - 31%Hispanic, 33% Free lunch. Try it yourself...it's a fun game!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: for frustrated ()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:45PM

You should

Move to Loudoun/better yet get out of Northern Virginia all together
Make more money and move to a good distric
My favorite not shower for 2 days and wear the same clothing to school and join in on all the free stuff whopee

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:50PM

K7Cuh Wrote:
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> What was the increase in Hispanic students over
> that same time?

Fewer than an average of 1,879 per year, which of course has no bearing at all on how fucking averages are calculated. Stupid dumbshit.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:55PM

Frustrated in Fairfax Wrote:
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> I don't know if too many people on this thread
> have firsthand knowledge of the "flood" of
> students, but those of us with kids in the system
> see it and have felt it.

Gee, another sorry-ass plea for special status. Go sit in the corner, dweebette. Your petition is DENIED!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:58PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Frustrated in Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't know if too many people on this thread
> > have firsthand knowledge of the "flood" of
> > students, but those of us with kids in the
> system
> > see it and have felt it.
>
> Gee, another sorry-ass plea for special status.
> Go sit in the corner, dweebette. Your petition is
> DENIED!
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Repoprt #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:59PM

No such thing as a free lunch... Wrote:
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> Here's an interesting piece of information I
> found. If you look at the schools in the Fairfax
> County Public Schools, then look at their hispanic
> population and the percentage of students
> receiving free or reduced lunch, the numbers are
> within a couple of percentage points. For
> instance, Providence Elementary - 31%Hispanic, 33%
> Free lunch. Try it yourself...it's a fun game!

What did you say your IQ was? 70? 75?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:00PM

@Asshole: my bad - that pic isnt for you, it's for whoever you were responding to.....................

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: beat around the bush ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:00PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Frustrated in Fairfax Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I don't know if too many people on this
> thread
> > > have firsthand knowledge of the "flood" of
> > > students, but those of us with kids in the
> > system
> > > see it and have felt it.
> >
> > Gee, another sorry-ass plea for special status.
>
> > Go sit in the corner, dweebette. Your petition
> is
> > DENIED!


Oh no gordy, it can't be the illegals fault. I make 10 million a year and know everything. I'm really special.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:01PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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Another non-mustard-cutter? Oh boy...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole eportr #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:04PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Asshole: my bad - that pic isnt for you, it's
> for whoever you were responding
> to.....................

Well, everyone but you seems to be a bit confused on that then.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:06PM

slower than molasses in January, I am

i still know I have more pressing concerns in my life that what the colour of the kids in the damn school are.............

pic unrelated



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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 2ThePoint ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:20PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> K7Cuh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What was the increase in Hispanic students over
> > that same time?
>
> Fewer than an average of 1,879 per year, which of
> course has no bearing at all on how fucking
> averages are calculated. Stupid dumbshit.

Yeah, less... Like very few less... Like the vast majority. Which has bearing on the subject of this thread.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Re[pot #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:29PM

beat around the bush Wrote:
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> I make 10 million a year and know everything. I'm
> really special.

Oh no! Envy-Boy is still sobbing away over there. That's so sad. You should have worked both smarter and harder it looks like, my destitute poor little churl.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Why I love ffxu ()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:32PM

Almost 400 replies of complete fuckery in only a few days. Stay classy Fairfax!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: bendover ()
Date: July 18, 2014 05:16PM

Fairfax more taxes to pay for all the extra stuff for our especial amigos

Have a great weekend

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: get out your checkbook ()
Date: July 18, 2014 05:35PM

bendover Wrote:
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> Fairfax more taxes to pay for all the extra stuff
> for our especial amigos
>
> Have a great weekend


Yes free back packs, free school supplies(enjoy buying yours), free meals and 10 to a classroom while your kid sits packed with 30 others.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: johnny ringo ()
Date: July 18, 2014 06:16PM

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: jVcwY ()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:22PM

The IG’s office issued its report on this audit--which covered tax years 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010--this March.

One of its findings was that there were 365 dead children whose SSNs reportedly earned wages during the four years audited. “In three cases,” the IG determined, “the earnings were legitimate and earned by child actors who had died.”

But in the other 362 cases, people had misused the SSNs of dead children.

On their face, Social Security records indicated that these 362 dead children had worked for 626 different employers over the four-year period covered by the audit and earned a collective $9 million.

“Of the 362 deceased children, 326 were under age 7 when the wages were earned,” said the report. “In fact, 24 of the children had died at birth.”

In many cases, a parent or a relative stole the dead child’s SSN.

“In 59 of these cases, it is likely the deceased child’s parent used the child’s identity for employment,” said the report. “For these cases, we found that the reported names on the W-2s matched the parent’s names on the child’s Numident. For example, a child who was 2-years-old when he died in January 2000 had over $119,000 in wages reported for TYs 2007 through 2009 by a construction company.”

In 13 cases, the dead child had been receiving “disability benefits” before he or she died. The baby boy whose illegal-alien father posthumously stole his identity was one of these.

“For example, a child who was under 1-year-old when he died in July 2001 had over $114,000 in wages reported for TYs 2007 through 2009 by a company in the business, administrative, and support industry,” said the audit report.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: SillyKniggits ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:27PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> SillyKniggits Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > well well well. lookee who's distorting numbers
> > now! "dude, that was years ago".
>
> Go fuck yourself, you ignorant worthless
> turd-muncher. 2014 is fucking THIS YEAR. Are you
> so fucked up as to be unable to get the concept of
> THIS FUCKING YEAR through your head? What a
> god-awful dumbfuck.
>
> > you can't average student growth over a dozen
> > years and say it's only 1879 more a year.
>
> ATTENTION ALL HOPELESS DUMBFUCKS AND ASSHOLES:
> When growth over 12 years amounts to 22,544
> students, then the average annual student increase
> across those 12 years was 22,544 divided by 12
> equals 1,879. That's the FUCKING DEFINITION of an
> average, you mindless fucking moron.
>
> And all that fucking explosion in enrollment you
> useless goober fucktards forever whine over has
> actually been a measly 1.1% per year. You fucking
> stooge-fucks are just plain batshit stupid.
> That's all there is to it. Too fucking dumb.




"dude that was years ago" quip explained for you using small words

-> as in white house's witless tommy vietor quote saying talking points were irrelevant because "that was two years ago". clearly went over your head. too much time on ffxu?


>22,544 divided by 12 equals 1,879.

maybe you did graduate from fcps.

to average the increase over 12 years depresses more recent, higher increases. flattening out #s over 12 years distorts {hides} problem of bigger increases after 2007. looking at hispanic student increased #s, yes a bunch in fcps classrooms are probably illegal.


(fetchez la vache!)
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: GoldSharpie ()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:38PM

K7Cuh Wrote:
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> Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > > you can't average student growth over a dozen
> > > years and say it's only 1879 more a year.
> >
> > ATTENTION ALL HOPELESS DUMBFUCKS AND ASSHOLES:
> > When growth over 12 years amounts to 22,544
> > students, then the average annual student
> increase
> > across those 12 years was 22,544 divided by 12
> > equals 1,879. That's the FUCKING DEFINITION of
> an
> > average, you mindless fucking moron.
> >
>
>
> What was the increase in Hispanic students over
> that same time?


Hispanic/Latino % increased 67.86% in that same time

22,556 14.05% of 160,584 students in 2002

43,211 23.58% of 183,269 students in 2014

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:18PM

SillyKniggits Wrote:
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Listen up, you dried-up worthless ignorant turd-munching toad-fuck hack: 2014 is the CURRENT FUCKING YEAR. Got that? Averages are and always have been calculated as the sum of the observations divided by the number of observations. Got that? It has been repeatedly pointed out that individual annual increases were slightly below the 1.1% 12-year average rate prior to the Great Recession (that your bang-up gang of hopeless assfucks created and then prolonged) and slightly higher after. What has not been pointed out -- because it would have been a patent, deliberate, and assholishly grotesque distortion of the truth -- is that any skyrocketing increases in FCPS enrollment have occurred. That assholishness of course does not bother worthless assholes in the slightest, contemptible loser dickwad fucking liars that all of them are. That is why they have repeatedly tried to claim such increases when there is in fact no fucking history of them at all. In this, they simply mark themselves as nothing more than disgusting social dregs, pathetic mental low-lifes, and useless ignorant lying fucking asstards and dorkshits. As such a feckless and thoroughly proven asshole, you certainly seem well suited to that role.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Jose Canyousee ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:48PM

In the past 20 years, the Hispanic population of the school system has almost quadrupled, reaching more than 43,000 students this year (2013), or 23.6 percent of the school population, according to the Report of Student Membership by Ethnicity, Race and Gender.

The number of white students has decreased by more than 16,000 in the same time frame, to just under 76,000 this year. From the start of the 1993-94 school year, the percentage of white students has dipped 26 points, from 67.4 percent to 41.4 percent of the student body.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:49PM

GoldSharpie Wrote:
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> Hispanic/Latino % increased 67.86% in that same
> time. 22,556 = 14.05% of 160,584 students in 2002.
> 43,211 = 23.58% of 183,269 students in 2014.

20-year history of Hispanic enrollment in FCPS, not accounting for changes in what counts as Hispanic that have occurred over that time...

1994 -- 11,606 = 8.5%
1999 -- 16,332 = 10.9%
2004 -- 24,720 = 15.1%
2009 -- 30,549 = 18.1%
2014 -- 43,211 = 23.6%

Nothing to see here but the expected recession-related dip to lower than usual membership growth over 2004-09.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: White Flight ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:08PM

1992 TO 2012 ETHNICITY AND RACE
MEMBERSHIP AT FIVE-YEAR INTERVALS

White

1992-1993 92,764 68.8%
1997-1998 91,608 62.2%
2002-2003 87,997 54.1%
2007-2008 78,839 47.7%
2012-2013 76,279 42.3%


Hispanic

1992-1993 10,477 7.8%
1997-1998 15,254 10.4%
2002-2003 23,812 14.6%
2007-2008 28,251 17.1%
2012-2013 41,171 22.8%

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:14PM

LOL! Why not click on the link for this year?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Browm Drowned ()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:42PM

In FY 2014, $21.7 million including 299.0 school-based positions is required to
accommodate enrollment and demographic adjustments.

The FY 2014 projection includes 3,089 students more than the FY 2013 projection and
accounts for continued shifts in the English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL),
Special Services, and Free or Reduced-Price Meals eligible populations.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 08:43AM

Fuck you, you goober assholes.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 08:54AM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> Fuck you, you goober assholes.

The massive pain and butthurt being experienced by poor talentless Envy-Boy continues unabated. Did I mention that I had dinner Wednesday with Chuck Schumer and Lindsey Graham? I don't think I did. Lots of talk about immigration. But what would a stupid goober asshole pisssant like you know about that? Fucking nothing, that's what. Stupid goober moron. Keep on sobbing, loser-boy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:40AM

Browm Drowned Wrote:
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> In FY 2014, $21.7 million including 299.0 school-
> based positions is required to accommodate enrollment
> and demographic adjustments. The FY 2014 projection
> includes 3,089 students more than the FY 2013 projection
> and accounts for continued shifts in the English for
> Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL), Special Services,
> and Free or Reduced-Price Meals eligible populations.

Your point being that we should not be teaching English to those we demand learn English? That's pretty dumb. Do you feel the same way about teaching STEM courses given the levels of demand for STEM-competent graduates?

Meanwhile, the costs of subsidized and partly-subsidized meals are a federally underwritten expense. Just like the snack and summer food service programs. The data are used at the county level merely as markers for changing demographics. That is something that has been going on for quite a long time. But demographics tell only a part of the story. A large part is played as well by economics, as eligibility for subsidized meals is tied to two economic signposts -- 130% of poverty level and 185% of poverty level. General declines in employment and income since 2000 -- only accelerated by the effects of the Great Republican Recession -- have been a significant driver of rising subsidized meals program participation numbers. Right-wing white-out doesn't cover up that fact.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:41AM

Fuck you, you envious goober asshole. I'm the real one, and at least try to get the dates/events correct when dropping names. Goober teapartier.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:42AM

Of course... since all have the same aptitudes for STEM work.

What a goober racist asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:43AM

See, this is how we know you're the goober asshole - there was no decline in employment in FFX over the past decade. Only a teapartier would make such a glaring error.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: POTNUS ()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:47AM

"Meanwhile, the costs of subsidized and partly-subsidized meals are a federally underwritten expense. Just like the snack and summer food service programs."

The suggestion, as is always the case with liberals, is that these programs cost nothing. In this case, Fairfax County does not have to pay because the federal government pays.

If you look it up, I believe that you will find that Fairfax County residents pay federal income tax, so they are are paying for it.

It was the same with the proposed meals tax. One supporter on FFU actually called the tax a free lunch, even though it was cost those paying it $90 million the first year, so something like a billion dollars over the first decade, for a completely new tax.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 19, 2014 10:02AM

Fuck you Eric, you goober racist asshole. I've got your number.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: The democrat ()
Date: July 19, 2014 01:27PM

FCPS will be the model of future for our new illegals, teach them to speak english, then replace those still can't speak english niggers. Damn 400 years in this country and those niggers are still dumb as they were the first day they got here.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: good plan but.. ()
Date: July 19, 2014 01:29PM

The democrat Wrote:
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> FCPS will be the model of future for our new
> illegals, teach them to speak english, then
> replace those still can't speak english niggers.
> Damn 400 years in this country and those niggers
> are still dumb as they were the first day they got
> here.


What will be do with the niggers?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: HUCJK ()
Date: July 19, 2014 01:40PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Browm Drowned Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In FY 2014, $21.7 million including 299.0
> school-
> > based positions is required to accommodate
> enrollment
> > and demographic adjustments. The FY 2014
> projection
> > includes 3,089 students more than the FY 2013
> projection
> > and accounts for continued shifts in the
> English for
> > Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL), Special
> Services,
> > and Free or Reduced-Price Meals eligible
> populations.
>
> Your point being that we should not be teaching
> English to those we demand learn English? That's
> pretty dumb. Do you feel the same way about
> teaching STEM courses given the levels of demand
> for STEM-competent graduates?
>
> Meanwhile, the costs of subsidized and
> partly-subsidized meals are a federally
> underwritten expense. Just like the snack and
> summer food service programs. The data are used
> at the county level merely as markers for changing
> demographics. That is something that has been
> going on for quite a long time. But demographics
> tell only a part of the story. A large part is
> played as well by economics, as eligibility for
> subsidized meals is tied to two economic signposts
> -- 130% of poverty level and 185% of poverty
> level. General declines in employment and income
> since 2000 -- only accelerated by the effects of
> the Great Republican Recession -- have been a
> significant driver of rising subsidized meals
> program participation numbers. Right-wing
> white-out doesn't cover up that fact.


The point being that they are a large and disproportionate cost which drains resources from those who are supposed to be here as opposed to those who are not.

We have a surplus of STEM-competent graduates and workers. Businesses aren't pushing for HB visas and similar because we need more, they're doing so because they want more *cheap* immigrant STEM workers.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: The democrat ()
Date: July 19, 2014 02:40PM

good plan but.. Wrote:
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> The democrat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FCPS will be the model of future for our new
> > illegals, teach them to speak english, then
> > replace those still can't speak english niggers.
>
> > Damn 400 years in this country and those
> niggers
> > are still dumb as they were the first day they
> got
> > here.
>
>
> What will be do with the niggers?


You are supposed the furnish your niggers to replaced with an airline ticket to Africa. Try Malaysian airline,cheaper and will divert over the Ulkraine.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Dicoveries ()
Date: July 19, 2014 05:00PM

POTNUS Wrote:
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> The suggestion, as is always the case with
> liberals, is that these programs cost nothing.

No, it's that the costs are not paid for by Fairfax County. Reduced price meals are NOT driving up anybody's property taxes.

> In this case, Fairfax County does not have to
> pay because the federal government pays. If
> you look it up, I believe that you will find
> that Fairfax County residents pay federal income
> tax, so they are are paying for it.

If you knew your ass from a hole in the ground, you would know that there is no connection between taxation and spending at the federal level. The costs of the various subsidized meals programs can go up or down and the number at the bottom of your 1040 will stay exactly the same.

> It was the same with the proposed meals tax. One
> supporter on FFU actually called the tax a free
> lunch, even though it was cost those paying it $90
> million the first year, so something like a
> billion dollars over the first decade, for a
> completely new tax.

Pay attention. A county-level meals tax was not proposed. It was studied and shelved. A big difference meanwhile between property taxes and a meals tax is that 100% of property tax revenues come from county residents while only 60-70% of meal tax revenues would. Let's see if that will sink in.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoveries ()
Date: July 19, 2014 05:18PM

HUCJK Wrote:
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> The point being that they are a large and
> disproportionate cost which drains resources from
> those who are supposed to be here as opposed to
> those who are not.

LOL! Swim upstream much, Bozo? The FACT is that legal or not (and again, you don't know which is which) many children of Hispanic heritage ARE here and since their parents pay the same taxes that you do, these kids have every right to attend FCPS schools and to be provided with education appropriate to their needs, often including instruction in English for speakers of other languages. The FCPS curriculum is in fact tailored in this way to meet the needs of many student subsets.

> We have a surplus of STEM-competent graduates and
> workers. Businesses aren't pushing for HB visas
> and similar because we need more, they're doing so
> because they want more *cheap* immigrant STEM
> workers.

Ah, I see. You live in an alternative universe. That would explain the propeller-beanie ridiculousness of your comments across the board.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Blah blah blah blah blah ()
Date: July 19, 2014 05:28PM

Gerrymanderer2:
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> POTNUS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The suggestion, as is always the case with
> > liberals, is that these programs cost nothing.
>
> No, it's that the costs are not paid for by
> Fairfax County.


Gosh, then who pays for them if not us?


> If you knew your ass from a hole in the ground,
> you would know that there is no connection between
> taxation and spending at the federal level. The
> costs of the various subsidized meals programs can
> go up or down and the number at the bottom of your
> 1040 will stay exactly the same.

So costs go up and no one pays more. That's impressive. Explains why that GMU prof received a Nobel in Economics.

> Pay attention. A county-level meals tax was not
> proposed. It was studied and shelved.

Not shelved, dead and buried. Best comment from the report:

"The County does not need more revenue."

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/mealstax/meals-tax-referendum-final-report.htm

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: POTNUS ()
Date: July 19, 2014 05:49PM

FAD wrote:

"Pay attention. A county-level meals tax was not proposed. It was studied and shelved. A big difference meanwhile between property taxes and a meals tax is that 100% of property tax revenues come from county residents while only 60-70% of meal tax revenues would. Let's see if that will sink in."

Along with the name-calling, thanks for proving my point that liberals always suggest that it's all free money the government spends.

Okay, so of the $90 million raised the first year by the "free lunch" meals tax only 60-70% (about $70 million) would have come out of the pockets of Fairfax County residents. So is the other 30-40% just free money? Of course not, it is coming out of the pockets of others who eat in Fairfax and is not available for them to spend on other things, which workers make or provide.

Just like when Fairfax residents pay a meals tax in other counties. It's not free money. It comes out of our pockets, giving us less money to spend on cars, houses, diapers, books, and other things that workers make or provide.

This is exactly what is killing middle class workers and entrepreneurs today.

I also note that you explicitly claim that there is no connection between government spending and the amount of money the government raises. Sadly, this reveals that you are very inflicted with the liberal mindset that government does not have to pay for what it spends. Of course it does, in the long run. Your kids and mine will have to make up the difference, or face higher interest rates or inflation.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoveries ()
Date: July 19, 2014 06:05PM

Blah blah blah blah blah Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer2:

LOLOLOLOL!!!

> Gosh, then who pays for them if not us?

The federal government, as had already been pointed out. Not really all that much on the uptake, are you.

> So costs go up and no one pays more. That's impressive.

No, it's perfectly ordinary. There is no connection between federal receipts and outlays. The federal government is not some large-scale version of your tiny little no-account household. The federal government plays by very different rules. Possibly you've never bothered to investigate here? That would explain your tabula rasa ignorance.

> Explains why that GMU prof received a Nobel in Economics.

Buchanan or Smith? Not that I'd expect you to understand a word that either one of them ever wrote.

> Not shelved, dead and buried. Best comment from
> the report: "The County does not need more revenue."

Wow, you really are a goober dumbfuck. After the ravages if the Great Recession (inflicted upon us by a bunch of right-wing economic assholes), this County and many others are left in desperate need of expanded revenues. While the timing may not have been right, a meals tax -- such as the ones already on the books in hundreds of other Virginia jurisdictions -- would have been quite an efficient and effective step in that direction. As such, the idea will resurface in the not at all distant future. And it will ultimately be adopted.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverees ()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:10PM

POTNUS Wrote:
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> Along with the name-calling...

You get what you pay for, Dumbo, so mind your step a little more closely if you are the thin-skinned type.

> thanks for proving my point that liberals always
> suggest that it's all free money the government
> spends.

The federal government is not a household. There is no connection between its receipts and outlays. None. This is a basic premise of federal finance. It would be covered during Week-1 of the course. Along with taxing authority and currency-issuing authority.

> Okay, so of the $90 million raised the first year
> by the "free lunch" meals tax only 60-70% (about
> $70 million) would have come out of the pockets of
> Fairfax County residents.

Bad math. 70 is 78% of 90. 60-70% of 90 would be 54-63. That's covered in Week-1 of like the fifth grade.

> So is the other 30-40% just free money? Of course
> not, it is coming out of the pockets of others who
> eat in Fairfax...

That's right. Commmuters from other states and counties who use our services but don't actually pay for them. Then there are the tourists who come from far and wide to enjoy our local splendors, and of course the business travellers who come to meet and greet and entertain and lobby, but who also don't bother to leave much of a tip for housekeeping.

> ...and is not available for them to spend on other
> things, which workers make or provide. Just like
> when Fairfax residents pay a meals tax in other
> counties. It's not free money. It comes out of our
> pockets, giving us less money to spend on cars,
> houses, diapers, books, and other things that
> workers make or provide. This is exactly what is
> killing middle class workers and entrepreneurs today.

Oh, the humanity! I think I need a hanky! But let's review. Vienna, Herndon, Fairfax City, and the City of Falls Church, along with Manassas and Manassas Park, Alexandria, and Arlington are already among the nearly 200 Virginia jurisdictions that impose a meals tax. Despite the phony threats and ridiculous sob stories invented by dishonest meals tax opponents, the economies of these locales are not crumbling, jobs are not disappearing, and local families are not disintegrating. Exactly NONE of the things that tax critics issue their dire warnings over have ever actually come to pass in any of these places. They simply have an expanded and more diverse tax base to work from. Good for them, but ho help to us.

> I also note that you explicitly claim that there
> is no connection between government spending and
> the amount of money the government raises.

That's because it is true. When the bills come in, Treasury managers use whatever cash they have on hand to pay them, and after that, they simply borrow the rest. Been that way for a long, long time. The nation was in fact born of borrowing and debt. Debt has quite a prominent place on our family tree.

> Sadly, this reveals that you are very inflicted with
> the liberal mindset that government does not have to
> pay for what it spends.

God, you're a goober. Borrowing is a means of financing, just like paying with cash.

> Of course it does, in the long run. Your kids and mine will have to make up
> the difference, or face higher interest rates or inflation.

You're truly sick. How much are you struggling under the burden of WWII debts that the supposedly Greatest Generation walked away from and dumped in your lap? Are those bills what's holding you back? Is that what's troubling you, Bunky? You might want to go get a grip or something!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Disoverees ()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:14PM

Yeah, here's another one for you to go register, Envy-Boy, you worthless low-life fucktard. Being drawn-and-quartered yet again seems to have left you in a foul mood, you useless piece of ignorant toad-shit.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: POTNUS ()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:40PM

FAD, by your logic, which is interspersed amongst the name-calling, it seems like the government might as well just buy everyone a McMansion, a Lexus, and an Ivy League education, since it doesn't really have to pay for what it spends.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: who pays ()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:57PM

The children are already paying. Our state colleges used to be much more heavily subsidized by state government. Now the kids have loans (which are basically those tax subsidies ). The burden of those "student loan taxes" is weighing down the recovery. That money that used to be used for college subsidies is now going to FRM, health care, and education expenses for others. That's how the middle class is further gouged. There truly is no free lunch. The government got the students to borrow. The level of overall debt is high.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverees ()
Date: July 19, 2014 08:08PM

POTNUS Wrote:
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> FAD, by your logic, which is interspersed amongst
> the name-calling, it seems like the government
> might as well just buy everyone a McMansion, a
> Lexus, and an Ivy League education, since it
> doesn't really have to pay for what it spends.

Dude, the government pays for everything it purchases. If it didn't, suppliers would simply stop entering into contracts with them. And the world economic order would collapse. The question here is over how various payments are financed. Reduced cost meals are financed by payments from the feds to local schools. The schools then use those funds to provide the covered meals, at no cost to students at 130% of poverty and below, and at reduced cost to those at 131-185% of poverty. These are free funds to the schools. The feds can and do simply cut such checks. When those checks are ultimately presented to Treasury for payment, cash on hand will be used for that purpose if available, or the amounts needed will simply be borrowed. No additional taxes will be either due or collected. Receipts in general are an entirely separate matter from outlays.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Futher Asshole Discoverees ()
Date: July 19, 2014 08:42PM

who pays Wrote:
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> The children are already paying. Our state
> colleges used to be much more heavily subsidized
> by state government. Now the kids have loans
> (which are basically those tax subsidies ). The
> burden of those "student loan taxes" is weighing
> down the recovery. That money that used to be
> used for college subsidies is now going to FRM,
> health care, and education expenses for others.
> That's how the middle class is further gouged.
> There truly is no free lunch. The government got
> the students to borrow. The level of overall debt
> is high.

State schools are obviously a state matter, but it's quite true that pressures from right-wing fiscal morons to cut taxes and spending led legislatures all over the country to slash higher education funding, leaving more and more of the tab for Mom and Dad to pick up or for a student to borrow against uncertain future earnings. An object lesson in how trying to do things on the cheap will often backfire.

As outlined above, free and reduced meals do not impose an additional burden on anyone. Rates of increase in health care costs have been reduced. What is otherwise squeezing the middle class is cuts in their pay and benefits imposed by corporatists unopposed by any countervailing power.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: E3kLm ()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:34PM

Further Asshole Discoveries Wrote:
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> HUCJK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The point being that they are a large and
> > disproportionate cost which drains resources
> from
> > those who are supposed to be here as opposed to
> > those who are not.
>
> LOL! Swim upstream much, Bozo? The FACT is that
> legal or not (and again, you don't know which is
> which) many children of Hispanic heritage ARE here
> and since their parents pay the same taxes that
> you do, these kids have every right to attend FCPS
> schools and to be provided with education
> appropriate to their needs, often including
> instruction in English for speakers of other
> languages. The FCPS curriculum is in fact
> tailored in this way to meet the needs of many
> student subsets.


None of which changes the fact that they are a large and costly drain on resources and the primary factor which now drives increased costs.


> > We have a surplus of STEM-competent graduates
> and
> > workers. Businesses aren't pushing for HB
> visas
> > and similar because we need more, they're doing
> so
> > because they want more *cheap* immigrant STEM
> > workers.
>
> Ah, I see. You live in an alternative universe.
> That would explain the propeller-beanie
> ridiculousness of your comments across the board.


We graduate more new STEM candidates every year than there are new STEM jobs created. In addition to having an existing surplus of STEM workers and losing versus gaining STEM positions. The only segment of the market beyond some limited, more specific areas where there is any significant shortage is at lower, semi-technical levels.

The reason that the Facebooks and Microsofts, et. al., all push the visa angle (note to the virtual exclusion of any other approach) is that they want access to a large pool of pre-trained, specialized-skill workers on a shorter-term track at lower cost. In most years the top 10 H-1B visa sponsors are large outsourcing firms like Infosys and Tata who hire/provide about half of all. Only a very small percentage (< 5%) ever even apply to become citizens. Most are trained and then rotate back to their home country often with the work. When Gates and others say that they couldn't run their business without them, what they really mean is that they couldn't hit their numbers and product cycles if they had to pay full longer-term employee life-cycle rates and train and retrain people. We can produce all of the STEM grads that we want and it won't change the dynamics of that labor market.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 19, 2014 10:06PM

E3kLm Wrote:
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> None of which changes the fact that they are a
> large and costly drain on resources and the
> primary factor which now drives increased costs.

God, you're a dumbfuck. This is universal free education we are doing here. The gifted and talented are a large and costly drain on resources. IDEA kids are a large and costly drain on resources. Athletes are a large and costly drain on resources. Pampered little white pricks and sissies are a large and costly drain on resources. Fucking everybody enrolled is part of some large and costly drain on resources, so please do just go fuck your worthless self and be done with it.

> We graduate more new STEM candidates every year
> than there are new STEM jobs created. In addition
> to having an existing surplus of STEM workers and
> losing versus gaining STEM positions. The only
> segment of the market beyond some limited, more
> specific areas where there is any significant
> shortage is at lower, semi-technical levels.

First of all, moron, education in general is for tomorrow, not today. Second of all, a strong STEM foundation will be necessary over broad ranges of STEM and non-STEM careers in a future that you are too fucking deaf, dumb, and blind to envision. Nobody gives two fucks about what Facebook (seriously?) or Microsoft are doing to influence federal policy. It's irrelevant. This is about the world of FCPS, a world in which you rather plainly have no functional role to play at all.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: h3Gwn ()
Date: July 20, 2014 01:02AM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> E3kLm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > None of which changes the fact that they are a
> > large and costly drain on resources and the
> > primary factor which now drives increased
> costs.
>
> God, you're a dumbfuck. This is universal free
> education we are doing here. The gifted and
> talented are a large and costly drain on
> resources. IDEA kids are a large and costly drain
> on resources. Athletes are a large and costly
> drain on resources. Pampered little white pricks
> and sissies are a large and costly drain on
> resources. Fucking everybody enrolled is part of
> some large and costly drain on resources, so
> please do just go fuck your worthless self and be
> done with it.


Except it's not at all free. And what's spent on those who shouldn't be here takes away from those who should.


>
> > We graduate more new STEM candidates every year
> > than there are new STEM jobs created. In
> addition
> > to having an existing surplus of STEM workers
> and
> > losing versus gaining STEM positions. The only
> > segment of the market beyond some limited, more
> > specific areas where there is any significant
> > shortage is at lower, semi-technical levels.
>
> First of all, moron, education in general is for
> tomorrow, not today. Second of all, a strong STEM
> foundation will be necessary over broad ranges of
> STEM and non-STEM careers in a future that you are
> too fucking deaf, dumb, and blind to envision.
> Nobody gives two fucks about what Facebook
> (seriously?) or Microsoft are doing to influence
> federal policy. It's irrelevant. This is about
> the world of FCPS, a world in which you rather
> plainly have no functional role to play at all.


You were the one citing demand for STEM-competent grads. That whole premise directly relates to what big players like the Facebooks, Microsofts, and others, do to influence policy. What they push in the way of immigration policy trees down to state and local government and education levels and becomes completely distorted in typical telephone-game fashion as some dire need for STEM-competent grads for jobs (allegedly) only possible to fill with immigrants now because of shortfalls in our education system. To a large extent that's not the case.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ding ding dong ()
Date: July 20, 2014 01:12AM

Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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>
> > Gosh, then who pays for them if not us?
>
> The federal government, as had already been
> pointed out. Not really all that much on the
> uptake, are you.
>
> > So costs go up and no one pays more. That's
> impressive.
>
> No, it's perfectly ordinary. There is no
> connection between federal receipts and outlays.
> The federal government is not some large-scale
> version of your tiny little no-account household.
> The federal government plays by very different
> rules. Possibly you've never bothered to
> investigate here? That would explain your tabula
> rasa ignorance.
>


Thank you, kind sir, for sharing your wisdom.

I do have two questions. Why do we have a federal income tax? And why do we have a federal budget?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BlueinNoVA ()
Date: July 20, 2014 01:27AM

This isn't about STEM grads or anything like it.

It is politically-incorrect to point out that the dropout rate is off the charts for Hispanic/Latino studunets.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 20, 2014 08:04AM

h3Gwn Wrote:
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> Except it's not at all free.

Fuck off, goober. Just how dumb do you think people are?

> And what's spent on those who shouldn't be here takes
> away from those who should.

Can't understand "free" and can't understand "universal" either? What the fuck DO you understand, you low-life goober moron?

> You were the one citing demand for STEM-competent grads.

Because STEM-competency is a basic requirement moving forward. Sort of like computer-literacy today. Once the exclusive province of geeks, facility with computers is now a basic requirement across the board. You really do have limited horizons, don't you.

> That whole premise directly relates to what big
> players like the Facebooks, Microsofts, and others,
> do to influence policy.

Only in the desperate. limited, and absurdly distorted minds of idiot goober dumbfucks. That would be YOU, by the way.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: wrong on so many levels ()
Date: July 20, 2014 08:15AM

Hey fucking dipshit asscrack for brains liberal piece of shit fucking loser dumbfuck illegal lover fucking idiotic moronic loser liberal piece of crap

Bottom line

Illegals cost more money than what they give back

more illegals = more expenses = more taxes for people that actually pay for the stuff

Game Set match

oh and have a nice day

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Assholes Dicoverys ()
Date: July 20, 2014 08:59AM

ding ding dong Wrote:
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> Thank you, kind sir, for sharing your wisdom.

Didn't understand it, did you?

> I do have two questions. Why do we have a federal
> income tax? And why do we have a federal budget?

Because of history. In the old days, money was tied to stocks of physical commodities -- salt, beads, gold, whatever. In that world, money itself behaves like a commodity and strict accountings of all inventories of it have to be maintained. Then along came some smarter people who realized that the value of money created within an economy was not tied to any single commodity, but to the value of all real goods and services produced within that economy. The value of the US dollar for instance is not derived from how much gold we have, but from the fact that we produce about 22% of all the real goods and services that are produced anywhere in the world. So long as there is transparency in GDP then, you can allow markets to determine the relative values of the currency and simply be done with the matter. In this world, it is not theoretically necessary to have an income tax. We could simply borrow everything. Borrowing and taxation are of course close relatives: each removes assets from the private sector which are then returned to it all but immediately via public sector spending. The net effects are the same, except that in one case, you carry public debt, and in the other case, you don't. Public debt is the trade-off for not having to pay any taxes. We could of course borrow more to repay that debt (which is what we actually do today anyway). In any case, it would be likely that a budget and related documents would be seen as desirable. Since it bears very little resemblance to a household budget, most people have a zero-level of comprehension with regard to the actual federal budget and budget process, but even in its current crippled state, it does generate large amounts of data that can be explored and mined for information that is very useful to the evaluation and development of public policy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Futher Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 20, 2014 09:04AM

BlueinNoVA Wrote:
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> This isn't about STEM grads or anything like it.
> It is politically-incorrect to point out that the
> dropout rate is off the charts for Hispanic/Latino
> studunets.

If calculated in the same way, the dropout rate for children in active military families would be off the charts as well. These are transient populations. They move regularly.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: More Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 20, 2014 09:11AM

wrong on so many levels Wrote:
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> Bottom line. Illegals cost more money than what they give back.

No, they don't. They contribute much more than you think they do, and they draw far fewer public services than you think they do. There isn't much serious debate about this anymore. Illegals are a net plus to the economy.

Gotta go. Working to put some influence on Capitol Hill types in the club at Nats Park today. You have a nice day too.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-002 ()
Date: July 20, 2014 09:58AM

Racist goober assholes.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "illegals a net plus" = ()
Date: July 20, 2014 10:00AM

Only when one ignores the legal distinction. Of course, our resident asshole thinks that teen/20 something gang bangers = working source of taxes.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: asshole claiming to be a ()
Date: July 20, 2014 10:06AM

big dick player...

almost funny. Except the pathetic parts.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: interesting comment on article ()
Date: July 20, 2014 01:46PM

Found this in the comment section of a 2011 article about the changes in demographics in Washington DC:


Ward4DC
3/27/2011 3:59 PM EDT
I read all the comments on this article with interest and sadness. I am black and a native Washingtonian. I welcome any civic minded citizen/resident into our neighborhood. We're always had whites living in my neighborhood in Ward 4, along with black college educated professionals. Their numbers are increasing and I don't have a problem with that. I welcome educated whites into our neighborhood. What I don't like is seeing 'savages' moving into our neighborhood destroying it and not taking pride in their living surroundings. I belong to our local Civic Association and we have a mixture of blacks, whites, and few Latinos. One of my neighbors is white and Jewish. We came to know each other by getting involved on public safety and other quality of life issues in our neighborhood. Unfortunately, we have many of lower class Salvadorans/Central Americans that have moved into Ward 4 and they live like animals due their culture and up bringing back in El Salvador/Central America. Many live in overcrowded apartment buildings, urinate and defecate in public, throw trash and beer cans on the ground. We had enough native born Americans (blacks) living in the neighborhood that was helping to destroy it. We don't need to import poverty into the United States. The people I see walking through the neighborhood picking up trash off the streets, it's my white neighbors. Myself and my white Jewish neighbor have been trying to get others to take pride in our neighborhood by getting involve. We hope more young professional couples with children will move into our neighborhood in the future. I would rather see educated white U.S. citizens move into my neighborhood than to see the low life current 'savages' (MS-13 gangs) moving in. You don't have to have money or be wealthy to take pride in your neighborhood by keeping your surroundings clean. I have 12 more years to work before I can retire. Looking at what is happening in my neighborhood and country with the influx of illegal aliens, it's depressing. Guess what, illegals aren't going anywhere and their numbers will continue to increase and ghettoize the United States. I LOOK FORWARD TO MY DEATH!!!!!!


The article:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/black-dc-residents-plummet-barely-a-majority/2011/03/24/ABtIgJQB_story.html

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 7gucg ()
Date: July 20, 2014 02:32PM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> h3Gwn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Except it's not at all free.
>
> Fuck off, goober. Just how dumb do you think
> people are?
>
> > And what's spent on those who shouldn't be here
> takes
> > away from those who should.
>
> Can't understand "free" and can't understand
> "universal" either? What the fuck DO you
> understand, you low-life goober moron?
>

Can't understand that it's not free to those paying for it and "universal" includes large numbers of illegals who shouldn't be here which significantly increases that cost? Even FCPS understands and, as PC as it tries to be about it, concedes that much.


> > You were the one citing demand for
> STEM-competent grads.
>
> Because STEM-competency is a basic requirement
> moving forward. Sort of like computer-literacy
> today. Once the exclusive province of geeks,
> facility with computers is now a basic requirement
> across the board. You really do have limited
> horizons, don't you.

Duh. Welcome to 20 years ago.

But that wasn't the point you were (weakly) attempting to make in citing demand for STEM-competent grads.


> > That whole premise directly relates to what big
> > players like the Facebooks, Microsofts, and
> others,
> > do to influence policy.
>
> Only in the desperate. limited, and absurdly
> distorted minds of idiot goober dumbfucks. That
> would be YOU, by the way.

And in the many statements by politicians and educators citing the same as evidence of and justification for immigration policy changes and educational requirements, resources, and spending to meet that need. Which, again, largely doesn't really exist as it's typically represented.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Dirty Sanchez ()
Date: July 20, 2014 04:36PM

There are approximately 100,000 public schools in the US. So I can see how putting 40,000 new students in them (2 for every 5 schools) would really strain things.

Hyperbole much?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: wake up ()
Date: July 20, 2014 04:57PM

"There are approximately 100,000 public schools in the US. So I can see how putting 40,000 new students in them (2 for every 5 schools) would really strain things.

It doesn't work that way. These kids mostly end up in the same places together. When you put 600 kids, say in FCPS, that puts a serious strain on FCPS. These children require lots more services on average. ESOL, counseling, free lunch, not to mention health services and additional help from Fairfax County--and all systems are not as affluent as Fairfax. Thousands and thousands per child. You are naïve if you do not understand this.

It is interesting to see where these kids are going. Texas and Arizona have been screaming about this for years. With the current influx, it is affecting all states (it will be interesting to see if any get sent to states with vulnerable Democrats this year.) Lynn, MA, mayor is very upset about the drain on their system.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Dirty Sanchez ()
Date: July 20, 2014 05:06PM

There are 196 schools in FCPS. I can image that 3 per school is just a tremendous burden.

Hyperbole much?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: wake up ()
Date: July 20, 2014 05:15PM

"There are 196 schools in FCPS. I can image that 3 per school is just a tremendous burden.

Hyperbole much?"

These kids don't end up in all 196 schools. Do you know anything about this? Really? Go to FCPS website and check out the FARMS of the elementary schools. Some schools have almost none--and some have very,very high percentages.
Do you know the cost of educating each child? These kids cost at least 15K per child--and that doesn't include all the special services they require. So, take 600 and multiply that by 15K. Do the math--it's not peanuts.

ps. Have you seen the trailers in FCPS--just where do you think we could put these kids. And, remember, we have more money than most school systems--and we cannot afford it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: head up ass ()
Date: July 20, 2014 05:31PM

Fuck the "illegal" Hispanics. Fuck the liberals that support " Illegal" Hispanics. jesus, what part of "illegal" do people not understand?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Dirty Sanchez ()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:46PM

head up ass Wrote:
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> Fuck the "illegal" Hispanics. Fuck the liberals
> that support " Illegal" Hispanics. jesus, what
> part of "illegal" do people not understand?


The part where you're obsessed with the word. You ever speed? Did you know that speeding is illegal? Therefore, technically, you're...wait for it....wait for it....AN ILLEGAL!!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ding ding dong ()
Date: July 20, 2014 08:32PM

Further Assholes Dicoverys Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ding ding dong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> > Thank you, kind sir, for sharing your wisdom.
>
> > I do have two questions. Why do we have a federal income tax? And why do we have a federal budget?
>
> Because of history. In the old days, money was
> tied to stocks of physical commodities -- salt,
> beads, gold, whatever. In that world, money
> itself behaves like a commodity and strict
> accountings of all inventories of it have to be
> maintained. Then along came some smarter people
> who realized that the value of money created
> within an economy was not tied to any single
> commodity, but to the value of all real goods and
> services produced within that economy. The value
> of the US dollar for instance is not derived from
> how much gold we have, but from the fact that we
> produce about 22% of all the real goods and
> services that are produced anywhere in the world.
> So long as there is transparency in GDP then, you
> can allow markets to determine the relative values
> of the currency and simply be done with the
> matter. In this world, it is not theoretically
> necessary to have an income tax. We could simply
> borrow everything. Borrowing and taxation are of
> course close relatives: each removes assets from
> the private sector which are then returned to it
> all but immediately via public sector spending.
> The net effects are the same, except that in one
> case, you carry public debt, and in the other
> case, you don't. Public debt is the trade-off for
> not having to pay any taxes. We could of course
> borrow more to repay that debt (which is what we
> actually do today anyway). In any case, it would
> be likely that a budget and related documents
> would be seen as desirable. Since it bears very
> little resemblance to a household budget, most
> people have a zero-level of comprehension with
> regard to the actual federal budget and budget
> process, but even in its current crippled state,
> it does generate large amounts of data that can be
> explored and mined for information that is very
> useful to the evaluation and development of public
> policy.

Thank you. Is there a word to describe your unique perspective on how this all works?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Yes ()
Date: July 20, 2014 08:48PM

ding ding dong Wrote:
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>
> Thank you. Is there a word to describe your
> unique perspective on how this all works?


bullshit

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Forestvale78 ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:43AM

The FY 2013 budget includes 741.3 new positions, most of which are being added to address enrollment growth—projected to be 181,608 students in FY 2013—and student demographic changes. (February 10, 2012)

http://www.fcps.edu/news/fy2013/bottomline/bottomline021012.html

I don't know what new positions cost in FCPS but if they were added to handle the student growth and the growth was because of or impacted by demographic changes as their newsletter says, then the additional jobs were needed to handle a lot of students with high needs.

Figure a wild guess estimate of only $50,000 per job that would be $37,050,000 by their own account because of "enrollment growth and student demographic changes." for just one year.

That was two budget cycles ago and it sounds like it is just getting worst.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: mula mula ()
Date: July 21, 2014 11:48AM

Any good stat's now? Have our ESOL costs gone up? Are we paying for more teacher's assistants? What %'s are we really talking about at a county level?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: putting it all together again ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:05PM

FY 2013 is above

Most of the additional money being requested by the school board is due to "enrollment growth and student demographic changes."

FY 2014

http://commweb.fcps.edu/newsreleases/newsrelease.cfm?newsid=2281

The FY 2014 Approved Budget includes $21.7 million to address student membership growth and changes in student demographics

FY 2015

http://commweb.fcps.edu/newsreleases/newsrelease.cfm?newsid=2543

FCPS is projecting an increase of 2,160 students that, combined with changing student demographics, translates to an additional cost of $19.5 million.

The other thing you have to realize is none of these new positions are one time costs. These positions all increase health insurance costs, pay and step increase costs, and retirement costs.

Also to pay for these new services existing services and positions are being cut. The quality of service for people in the "have areas" has been decreasing to pay for higher service levels in the "have not areas"

ESOL % increase is elsewhere in this thread

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 08:56AM

ding ding dong Wrote:
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> Thank you. Is there a word to describe your
> unique perspective on how this all works?

Educated. And the perspective is hardly unique. You might be thoroughly unschooled in finance and economics, but not everyone is.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 08:59AM

Yes Wrote:
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> bullshit

When was the last time you successfully made change for a dollar? Stupid asshole fucktard doesn't have the first clue of where to go look for the first clue.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 09:02AM

Forestvale78 Wrote:
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> That was two budget cycles ago and it sounds like
> it is just getting worst.

More than 700 positions were cut in the current cycle. Class sizes were increased again and pay increases were delayed again. Way to keep up, asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 09:11AM

putting it all together again Wrote:
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> The other thing you have to realize is none of
> these new positions are one time costs. These
> positions all increase health insurance costs, pay
> and step increase costs, and retirement costs.
>
> Also to pay for these new services existing
> services and positions are being cut. The quality
> of service for people in the "have areas" has been
> decreasing to pay for higher service levels in the
> "have not areas"
>
> ESOL % increase is elsewhere in this thread

Every year is a new year in the world of free universal public education. Has been since the whole idea got going. The system reacts over time to the changing nature of the public it serves. The fact that you personally HATE a particular bunch of school-aged kids in the county certainly does make you a worthless racist dumbfuck, but it is no indictment of FCPS at all. So why don't you just go off and fuck yourself, you disgraceful braindead dipshit.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: statistics ()
Date: July 22, 2014 09:36AM

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/22/children-12-and-under-are-fastest-growing-group-of-unaccompanied-minors-at-u-s-border/

Interesting statsitics on the ages. Surprising: more Mexicans last year than others. Why do they keep saying they are all from Central America. Also interesting, after Obama made his promise to those young Dreamers, the numbers escalated. Words have consequences.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Hello, Hello - Hola ()
Date: July 22, 2014 10:25AM

This will be the norm soon in FCPS:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/27/justice/california-school-american-flag-shirts/

Court: School was within its rights to ban U.S. flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo
By Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN
updated 3:09 PM EST, Mon March 3, 2014
Watch this video
Calif. court OKs ban on U.S. flag shirts
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

An appeals court says the Northern California school's decision kept students safe
Live Oak High School's principal told students to take off American flag T-shirts
The students later filed a civil rights suit against the school and administrators
The incident unfolded on Cinco de Mayo in 2010

(CNN) -- A California school that stopped students from wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo didn't violate their constitutional rights, an appeals court ruled Thursday.

The school's approach, according to the appeals court, kept students safe in a climate of racial tension.

"The controversy and tension remained," a panel of judges from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said in their opinion, "but the school's actions presciently avoided an altercation."

School officials were worried about violence and disruption of school activities "and their response was tailored to the circumstance," the opinion said.

The case dates back to May 5, 2010, when the principal of Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, California, asked a group of students wearing American flag T-shirts to turn their shirts inside out or take them off.

The students at the Northern California school refused, according to the appeals court's summary of the case, and later brought a civil rights suit against the school and two administrators, arguing that their rights to freedom of expression, equal protection and due process had been violated.

Judges said the civil rights case forced them to weigh the difficult question of what takes precedence: students' free speech rights or school safety concerns?

According to court documents, the incident occurred amid "ongoing racial tension and gang violence within the school, and after a near-violent altercation had erupted during the prior Cinco de Mayo over the display of an American flag."

The previous year, court documents said, a group of students carrying a Mexican flag had clashed with students who hung an American flag from a tree and chanted "USA" on Cinco de Mayo, a holiday marking a famous Mexican military battle that is often celebrated in the United States.

In 2010, the appeals court said, "threats issued in the aftermath of the incident were so real that the parents of the students involved in the suit kept them home from school two days later."

CNN first learned of the court's ruling on Twitter.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: some days are better than others ()
Date: July 22, 2014 10:37AM

Interesting that the vast majority are still teenagers. It would actually be easier to get the younger ones in terms of schooling. The older ones present much more difficulty in schooling because we do not have time to school them (when they come older) and get them to our standards in order to graduate. Many of those will be drop outs and will not be the net contributors to our tax base that people think they will be. These are not people coming from the middle class of a war torn country (such as the Afghanis or Vietnamese who came here). This is a more difficult group in terms of schooling and they are coming at a time when we are trying to recover from a major recession. This is the problem. If the populace here had not just suffered economic setbacks (constant threats of sequestration and no wage gains), the overall climate may be different (more welcoming). As it stands, people wonder if their own children will be able to compete in the future economy. They don't have the feeling of assurance that they need in order to start paying for other people's children (yet). This stuff goes in cycles. It also doesn't help that some of the people who are so welcoming are the ones who have not suffered and/or have their kids in private schools. This area has been a bubble and it has been easier historically to accept immigrants, but these immigrants are different and these times are different. Fairfax County is definitely changing.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 10:52AM

*statistics Wrote:
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> http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/22/ch
> ildren-12-and-under-are-fastest-growing-group-of-u
> naccompanied-minors-at-u-s-border/
>
> Interesting statsitics on the ages. Surprising:
> more Mexicans last year than others. Why do they
> keep saying they are all from Central America.

Actually, nobody says that who isn't confused over whether Mexico is a part of North America or Central America.

> Also interesting, after Obama made his promise to
> those young Dreamers, the numbers escalated.

It was after Bush invaded Iraq also.

> Words have consequences.

Yes, and yours are making you look like a typical right-wing stooge.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: gemuaknar ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:08AM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The fact that you personally HATE a particular
> bunch of school-aged kids in the county certainly
> does make you a worthless racist dumbfuck, but it
> is no indictment of FCPS at all. So why don't you
> just go off and fuck yourself, you disgraceful
> braindead dipshit.


Just because the big changes in FCPS student numbers are pointed out doesn't mean someone is racist. It also doesn't mean an indictment of FCPS because they are stuck with the kids who show up so it's not their fault. It anything it's an indictment of the Feds because they aren't enforcing border control and of the Fairfax Board of Supervisors because they aren't doing anything about illegals in Fairfax County.
So yes it makes it worse in FCPS in the classrooms and in the budget.
It is even more offensive to people who have waited and paid to immigrate here legally.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: In agreed-ment ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:21AM

gemuaknar Wrote:
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> Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The fact that you personally HATE a particular
> > bunch of school-aged kids in the county
> certainly
> > does make you a worthless racist dumbfuck, but
> it
> > is no indictment of FCPS at all. So why don't
> you
> > just go off and fuck yourself, you disgraceful
> > braindead dipshit.
>
>
> Just because the big changes in FCPS student
> numbers are pointed out doesn't mean someone is
> racist. It also doesn't mean an indictment of FCPS
> because they are stuck with the kids who show up
> so it's not their fault. It anything it's an
> indictment of the Feds because they aren't
> enforcing border control and of the Fairfax Board
> of Supervisors because they aren't doing anything
> about illegals in Fairfax County.
> So yes it makes it worse in FCPS in the classrooms
> and in the budget.
> It is even more offensive to people who have
> waited and paid to immigrate here legally.


All true

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Borderline ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:23AM

are they afraid to tell us? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^ The link above explains the situation, but does
> not answer the previous poster's questions which
> are:
>
> "If this is right, that does seem like an
> incredible increase. Has there been anything which
> explains the amount of increase?
>
> Do other school systems in the area have this kind
> of increase?"
>
>
> Will anyone answer these questions??????


There's this below, and that we don't really know how long we've been preparing...

http://fcnp.com/2014/07/03/a-penny-for-your-thoughts-news-of-greater-falls-church-156/

A Penny for Your Thoughts: News of Greater Falls Church
July 3, 2014 8:58 AM0 Comments
By Penny Gross

prenny-fcnp

Happy 4th of July! I hope all the parades, picnics, and fireworks will be terrific! There are so many places in the world today where the “rockets’ red glare and bombs bursting in air” actually are military armaments, not carefully planned colorful displays we enjoy at the Mall or local park. I am thankful every day that we live in such a great, and peaceful, nation. No wonder people want to come here.

And there’s the rub. Recent media reports have focused on thousands of children fleeing to the United States from Central and South America, unaccompanied by their parents or other responsible adults. The federal government, according to the reports, is housing the children in old federal facilities in Arizona, California, and Texas, while efforts to identify the children and what to do about them continue. The numbers apparently have overwhelmed the ability of the Border Patrol and other federal agencies to handle the situation. Last week, the small town of Lawrenceville, Virginia, near the North Carolina border, was in the news when it learned of a federal plan to house 500 children at St. Paul’s College, a historic black college that is closing. The town of about 1400 residents apparently had not been consulted ahead of time, and town leaders were concerned about how its existing infrastructure – police, fire protection, schools – could handle an increase of so many children at once. No one had time to plan.

And there’s another rub. Local governments provide local services; the feds don’t. Local governments plan for gradual growth in services needed by residents and businesses, based on trends tracked across time. While extra services, such as those generated by weather-related incidents, usually can be accommodated on an emergency basis for a short time, the situation is much different for long-term needs. Long-term planning is critical, and that is why, at Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors meeting, I asked County Executive Ed Long to examine the issues and provide the Board with recommendations about steps that may be needed to handle an unexpected influx of unaccompanied children, if such an event should occur, and report back at our July 29 Board meeting.

Fairfax County has a long history of welcoming newcomers. In the mid-1970s, Vietnamese refugees, many with professional degrees, came to Fairfax after the fall of Saigon. In the early 1980s, Afghani refugees, including educators and engineers, came after the Russians invaded their homeland. They have opened businesses, raised families, and became an integral part of the diverse tapestry of our community. In 2005, after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf Coast, Fairfax County welcomed a few hundred families who were forced out of their homes. Volunteers and non-profit agencies stepped forward, as did the school system, to provide temporary assistance for about a year, until the families could return home.

We should be able to meet any challenge, with good planning. That’s the gist of my Board Matter, and something to think about on Independence Day.
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Posted by: she says it ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:39AM

Fairfax County has a long history of welcoming newcomers. In the mid-1970s, Vietnamese refugees, many with professional degrees, came to Fairfax after the fall of Saigon. In the early 1980s, Afghani refugees, including educators and engineers, came after the Russians invaded their homeland.



Yes, all those professionally degreed educators and engineers were not hard to plan for. Notice how the Hurricane Katrina people returned home after a year. Different stories.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Fruther Assholes Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 12:02PM

Hello, Hello - Hola Wrote:
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> This will be the norm soon in FCPS:

Yes, by all means let's go back to the Massive Resistance of the 1950's and 60's. Because the right is still the same bunch of assholes and racist fucktards as they were back then.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 12:19PM

gemuaknar Wrote:
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> Just because the big changes in FCPS student
> numbers are pointed out doesn't mean someone is
> racist.

It would at the least mean that they were stupid. FCPS membership has increased since 2000 not st some astronomical rate, but at a rate of almost exactly 1.1% per year. It was a little less prior to the Great Recession and a little more since, but there have been no big changes and no tidal waves of boys and girls.

And if it weren't totally fucking obvious, the fact that the whiners focus only on Hispanic students is pretty much a take-it-to-the-bank guaranty of racism. These are disgusting filthy BIGOTS we are dealing with here.

> It anything it's an indictment of the Feds because
> they aren't enforcing border control...

How many $4 million per mile border walls do you want to put up, Mr. Gorbachev?

> ...and of the Fairfax Board of Supervisors because
> they aren't doing anything about illegals in Fairfax County.

You mean like plunging us into same dumbfuck abyss that Prince William County threw itself into and still hasn't fully recovered from? That would be a real smart idea.

> So yes it makes it worse in FCPS in the classrooms
> and in the budget. It is even more offensive to people
> who have waited and paid to immigrate here legally.

Bullshit. You demand that people have a little piece of paper, then you don't make anywhere near enough little pieces of paper available, then you blame the situation on the people who didn't get one. What a total dumbfuck system that is. You'd get an "F" on a 4th grade science project for designing a system like that.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: bnkjc ()
Date: July 22, 2014 12:21PM

statistics Wrote:
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> http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/22/ch
> ildren-12-and-under-are-fastest-growing-group-of-u
> naccompanied-minors-at-u-s-border/
>
> Interesting statsitics on the ages. Surprising:
> more Mexicans last year than others. Why do they
> keep saying they are all from Central America.
> Also interesting, after Obama made his promise to
> those young Dreamers, the numbers escalated.
> Words have consequences.


The largest increase in unaccompanied minors is coming from Central America. That's the group that both advocates and opponents want to highlight for their own reasons. As a sympathy play in the case of the former. To make it appear more of a crisis and failure of the administration on the part of the latter. They also have more media appeal as a story as well. So that's the group that gets played up on all sides. As the numbers show though, they represent a small percentage of the overall numbers with even most of the 'children' being male teenagers 14-17, and most of the younger kids travelling with adults.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: fuck you further asshole ()
Date: July 22, 2014 01:25PM

You know what motherfucker dipshit for brains bitch low life mother fucker asshole

The ILLEGAL aliens here are causing taxes to increase for the rest of us

The % increase of FARMS and ESOL is much much greater than 1.1% over any time period starting in 2005 to the present

You really must be dumbfuck to not understand basic statistics. Due us all a favor and fucking kill yourself you worthless piece of cock shit

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Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 22, 2014 01:36PM

fuck you further asshole Wrote:
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> The ILLEGAL aliens here are causing taxes to
> increase for the rest of us

Whether legal or illegal, immigrants pay thye same taxes you do.

> The % increase of FARMS and ESOL is much much
> greater than 1.1% over any time period starting in
> 2005 to the present

The foreign-born percentage of the population hit bottom in 1970. It has been increasing ever since, just now staring to reach the 13-15% range that had been the accepted norm between the Civil War and WWI. The rate of increase in enrollment in FCPS between 2000 and today has in fact been at an annual rate of 1.1%. That's simply indisputable. FARMS are of course funded by the Feds, not Fairfax. We do pay extra for ESOL, just as we pay extra for athletes, the gifted and talented, IDEA kids, and various other populations. This is part of the package when you do universal free public education. Try moving someplace else if you don't like it.

> You really must be dumbfuck to not understand
> basic statistics. Due us all a favor and fucking
> kill yourself you worthless piece of cock shit

How old are you again?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: look ()
Date: July 22, 2014 01:42PM

http://www.fcps.edu/news/fy2013/bottomline/bottomline021012.html

Please read the blue bar on the side. These are FCPS's own statistics for 2007-2012. Their own stats say that there was a 48% increase in ESOL students (and 35% for FRM's) between 2007 and 2012. So you can talk all you want about a 1.1% increase in the school population since 2000, but the most recent stats show an increase in ESOL at the rate of 9% per year for 2007-2012. Those kind of increases have hugely affected the recent budgets. When you add in the 2000-2006 numbers, you can dilute the percentage of increase. The fact is that the increases have been greater in the most recent years and continuing those kinds of increases is draining the system.

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Posted by: rightttttt on ()
Date: July 22, 2014 10:17PM

+1000

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: GoldSharpie ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:14PM

FY 2013 budget from ^^^^
Q: One of the big ticket items in the FY 2013 budget is money for our increasing student enrollment. How is that calculated?
A: The FY 2013 budget includes $45.7 million to accommodate the anticipated increase of nearly 4,000 additional students as well as changes in student demographics. The reason for this budget increase is to provide staffing to meet the needs of these incoming students.


FY 2015 budget got worse.
This is what Moon-ie said this year about FCPS budget.
http://www.fcps.edu/news/fy2015/docs/bosremarks040814.pdf;

"There are the rapid changes occurring in our enrollment and demographics.

Since FY 2010, overall enrollment has grown by more than 15,000 students.

Since 2010, our ESOL population has increased by 51 percent and we are 
projecting that nearly 29,000 students will need ESOL services next year.

Meanwhile the number of students eligible for Free and Reduced Price 
Meals has grown by 25 percent to more than 52,000 students next year.   

More than one in four FCPS students is now eligible for free or reduced 
price meals."

The bucks aren't for Sally Citizen and Larry Local. FCPS is bleeding money for kids pouring into the county.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Quit Lying With SOB Stories ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:32PM

>Because the right is still the same bunch of assholes and racist fucktards as they were back then.

You stupid shit for brains leftist party line hack

They were Democrats! Your Hero's Harry Byrd and others...Democrats!
Not Republicans you Obama shoe licking shit.


No More SOB Stories Send these kids back.

And DONT Talk To Me or Anyone else again about "blowing anyone" ..You Democrat Pervert..

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: gemuaknar ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:39PM

Quit Lying With SOB Stories Wrote:
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> >Because the right is still the same bunch of
> assholes and racist fucktards as they were back
> then.
>
> You stupid shit for brains leftist party line
> hack
>
> They were Democrats! Your Hero's Harry Byrd and
> others...Democrats!
> Not Republicans you Obama shoe licking shit.
>
>
> No More SOB Stories Send these kids back.
>
> And DONT Talk To Me or Anyone else again about
> "blowing anyone" ..You Democrat Pervert..


^ + Infinity! ^

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: an odd response ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:53PM

"The bucks aren't for Sally Citizen and Larry Local. FCPS is bleeding money for kids pouring into the county."

That is exactly right.

If you read the related threads, it's pretty clear that conservatives are concerned about this fact and liberals think it is wonderful. I don't get it, but it's the way it is.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 23, 2014 12:33AM

look Wrote:
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> Please read the blue bar on the side. These are
> FCPS's own statistics for 2007-2012. Their own
> stats say that there was a 48% increase in ESOL
> students (and 35% for FRM's) between 2007 and
> 2012. So you can talk all you want about a 1.1%
> increase in the school population since 2000, but
> the most recent stats show an increase in ESOL at
> the rate of 9% per year for 2007-2012. Those kind
> of increases have hugely affected the recent
> budgets. When you add in the 2000-2006 numbers,
> you can dilute the percentage of increase. The
> fact is that the increases have been greater in
> the most recent years and continuing those kinds
> of increases is draining the system.

What is so hard to understand here? The student population at FCPS has increased since 2000 at an average rate of 1.1%. Simple and indisputable fact. ESOL students cost more than an average student. So do athletes, IDEA kids, G&T, and kids in alternative schools. These groups are all part of free universal public education. Free and reduced meals are meanwhile paid for by the feds, not FCPS. What's actually been draining the system has been the Great Recession that right-wing goobers produced, and the Board's reluctance to make up for those lost revenues by raising tax rates sufficiently to allow it to send a proper allotment to the schools.

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Posted by: A final solution for GOP goobers ()
Date: July 23, 2014 03:33AM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> What's actually been draining the
> system has been the Great Recession that
> right-wing goobers produced,

Ya those right wing goobers who sued the banks in the late '90s for not giving enough bad mortgage loans to unqualified minorities, which set up the subprime bubble and caused the recession!

Oh wait the libtards did that.

Hmm well it's still the right wing goober's fault for being racists and not working a second job, selling their kidneys and donating all the money to the federal government to help our first handsome black tv president in his time of need.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Liberal Dumbfuck ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:03AM

Whoever that retard who posts under asshole names is a complete dumb fuck. It must be some kind of Organize for America dipshit who is paid to post all day. The absolute drivel that comes from this stupid ass is amazing and frightening.

God damn stupid... the bull shit about the recession that the right wing created... Do you remember your faggot hero Barney Frank blubbering about Der is notin wong wid fannie mae and fweddie mac stupid? That was at a hearing which was about the very issue of the collapse. Fuckwads like you would have been running to court if they cut off easy mortgages to minorities, many of whom were you favorite immigrant class and some illegal.

Obama is transforming America, importing poverty and stupid liberal bedwetting cocksuckers like this person are heralding this invasion. I guess if that cocksucker works for the Democratic party it is happy days.
But the US taxpayer is going to have to foot the bill for yet another round of poverty...
I know we can print more money.

Fuck you Further Asshole Discoveries.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 23, 2014 08:54AM

GoldSharpie Wrote:
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> The bucks aren't for Sally Citizen and Larry Local.
> FCPS is bleeding money for kids pouring into the county.

Asshole. Funds allotted to FCPS are spent on EVERYONE. The "bleeding" as you so moronically call it is on behalf of every student in the system. The problem lately is that the Board of Supervisors has not been proactive -- or even properly reactive -- in seeking to restore the cuts to educations that were made in meeting the pressures created by the Great Recession. This has left everyone in a bind. It is only your extreme disgusting dumbfuck racism that allows you to believe that kids of Hispanic origin are causing the problems. It is far more the case that disgraceful screwed up racist assholes such as yourself are causing the problems.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Furtehr Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:09AM

Quit Lying With SOB Stories Wrote:
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> >Because the right is still the same bunch of
> assholes and racist fucktards as they were back
> then.
>
> You stupid shit for brains leftist party line
> hack. They were Democrats! Your Hero's Harry Byrd
> and others...Democrats! Not Republicans you
> Obama shoe licking shit.

Attention all you mindless goober dumbfucks. Right and left do not equate to Republican and Democrat. Right-wing racist reactionaries were once Democrats, in large part because it was the more than liberal Radical Republicans who were the driving force behind Reconstruction in the south. Lincoln could call himself a Republican back in those days. Today, he would revile and spit on the Republican Party. These southern racists became the so-called Dixiecrats, and they remained in the Democratic Party until the crook Richard Nixon ran his blatant appeals to racism (euphemistically called his "Southern Strategy") and turned them all into Republicans. Racism and rich people have prospered ever since under the totally phony Big Tent, though nobody else has.

> No More SOB Stories Send these kids back.

Back where, moron? And when could that occur, and what would we do with them in the meantime? Stupid ignorant dumbshit.

> And DONT Talk To Me or Anyone else again about
> "blowing anyone" ..You Democrat Pervert..

Blow me, you worthless ignorant asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:28AM

A final solution for GOP goobers Wrote:
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> Ya those right wing goobers who sued the banks in
> the late '90s for not giving enough bad mortgage
> loans to unqualified minorities, which set up the
> subprime bubble and caused the recession! Oh wait
> the libtards did that.

My God, but you're stupid. It has been illegal to discriminate in lending or housing since the 1960's. There have been suits against banks who have violated those laws ever since. At the end of those cases, the banks typically 'fess up to their sins and try to make amends and restore their tarnished images. These suits had exactly fucking nada, zip, zero to do with the genesis of the Great Recession. That calamity was entirely the child of cowboy capitalists on Wall Street and dumbass laissez-faire free-marketeers in Washington. That child was born and raised and brought into full flower between 2002 and 2006. All Republicans all the time. Looking back, it is hard to believe that anyone could have been that dumb.

Meanwhile and as a needed FYI, there was never any policy, law, rule, or court decision that ordered any lender to extend one dime of credit to any borrower who was not fully qualified for it. You're just too fucking stupid to have known that.

> Hmm well it's still the right wing goober's fault
> for being racists and not working a second job,
> selling their kidneys and donating all the money
> to the federal government to help our first
> handsome black tv president in his time of need.

See what I mean about stupid? You shit-for-brains right-wing morons have cornered the fucking market on that. Stupid-ass goober dumbfucks.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Nothing to see here ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:51AM

move along people

argument has been won for anyone with any common sense (read not a stupid leftwing liberal)

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:25AM

Liberal Dumbfuck Wrote:
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> ...the bull shit about the recession that the
> right wing created... Do you remember your faggot
> hero Barney Frank blubbering> about Der is notin
> wong wid fannie mae and fweddie mac stupid?
> That was at a hearing which was about the very
> issue of the collapse.

LOL! You've swallowed the bullshit whole! Get your worthless fucking head out of the Echo Chamber, asshole. Barney Frank was the ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee from 1995 to 2007. That mans he was part of the minority. All he could do was talk. To have brought about any actual policy, he would have somehow had to sneak his schemes past a Republican committee chairman, a Republican Speaker of the House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican President. I doubt that even you are a big enough dumbfuck to imagine that he was capable of pulling that off.

As for his statements about the GSE's not being in crisis, those entities were pulled back into federal receivership in 2008, but Frank's statements abnout them were made in 2003, at a time when the GSE's were in fact not in crisis, and nobody believed that they were. Here is an exchange from the very hearing you refer to as the result of having been totally punked by a Naked Emperor propaganda video you saw on YouTube. The hearing was held on September 10, 2003. The parties here are Barney Frank and Treasury Secretary Snow, who was on the Hill to testify in favor of a Bush administration proposal to create a GSE czar who could overrule any decisions of the officers of those enterprises. This was just one of various Bush attempts to crush the GSE's and "privatize the mission" by turning it all over to Wall Street -- the very people who were in the process of creating the Great Recession. Enjoy...

Rep. FRANK: Let me ask you, Mr. Secretary—and again I appreciate that there is not a lot of rhetoric in here about how terrible [the GSE's] are. I appreciate that you think we should enhance the regulation, but I get the impression that you were talking more about guarding against potential future problems developing, rather than feeling that there is an urgent need to stave off some crisis. Are we in a crisis now with these entities?

Treas. Sec. SNOW: No, that is a fair characterization, Congressman Frank, of our position. We are not putting this proposal before you because of some concern over some imminent danger to the financial system for housing; far from it.

Far from it. Far from it, he says. Even the administration's pointman on this particular effort to squeeze the GSE's out of secondary mortgage market share and hand all that over to Wall Street admits up front and in no uncertain terms that the administration does not see any existing or looming crisis in the GSE's.

Do you feel really, really stupid yet, asshole???

> Fuckwads like you would have been running to court if
> they cut off easy mortgages to minorities, many of whom
> were you favorite immigrant class and some illegal.

Easy or hard, it is FUCKING ILLEGAL to deny either credit or housing to anyone on the basis of their being a member of a protected minority. How much do you hate America anyway? As for illegal immigrants, tens of thousands of them did in fact hold mortgages, and they were one of the BEST PERFORMING market segments as the financial crisis continued to grow. Only at the end as their jobs began to vanish did their default rates begin to match those of US citizens.

Once again you are on the total dumbshit end of the stick here, and I strongly suspect that this is the only place you'll ever be found. Worthless yapping dumbfuck.

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Posted by: Further Asshole Disoverys ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:32AM

Nothing to see here Wrote:
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> move along people
> argument has been won for anyone with any common
> sense (read not a stupid leftwing liberal)

That's right...wallow in the depths of your mindless fucking ignorance. You worthless goober dumbfucks know nothing else. Just stupid. That's all you can fucking manage. What a collection of unfit fucking assholes!

Here, you moron dumbshit kindergartner. Go watch a nice cartoon...

http://crisisofcredit.com/

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BlueinNoVa ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:16PM

FAD'ys (Further Asshole Disoverys) said:

The "bleeding" as you so moronically call it is on behalf of every student in the system."


NO, it isn't. It's pretty simply stated by the school system themselves when FCPS says:

"Since 2010, our ESOL population has increased by 51 percent and we are
projecting that nearly 29,000 students will need ESOL services next year.

Meanwhile the number of students eligible for Free and Reduced Price
Meals has grown by 25 percent to more than 52,000 students next year.

More than one in four FCPS students is now eligible for free or reduced
price meals."



If there wasn't a 51% ESOL population increase for 29,000 students or 52,000 FRM students which has grown to 1 in 4 FCPS kids, the budget needs wouldn't be as great as they are.

It's not hard. But when ever other word you type is f' this or f' that, powers of deduction are limited, I guess.

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Posted by: Telling It Like it Is ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:28PM

>It's not hard. But when ever other word you type is f' this or f' that, powers of deduction are limited, I guess.

+ 1000000000000000000 to Infinity

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole is a cocksucker ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:43PM

Hey Asshole discoveries you cocksucking moron. Nooo... Fannie and Fweddie were alright stupid ass wipe... the easy money for your voting blocks to get mortgage had nothing to do with the system going down. Liberal faggots like you are useless.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FAD ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:46PM

Further Asshole Discoveries says blow me to someone. That is impossible because you are and have a pussy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Stick this in your ass ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:56PM

I just want to clarify something that the moronic Asshole Discoveries and he is discovering that he likes things in his asshole. In one post, this clueless cocksucker, blames the collapse of 2008 on his favorite term GOP goobers. Now, I don't really care that much for the GOP either, but this this talking point is complete and utter bullshit. And fucking liberals recite it like the Koran, which they love... right? OK Further Asshole Diiscories... is it a dildo you discovered in your ass? Let's look at what the Bosotn Globe said about your faggot hero, who you say is blameless in the mortgage based collapse. And you stupid dibpshit, the Boston Globe is liberal:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/28/franks_fingerprints_are_all_over_the_financial_fiasco/

Franks fingerprints all over the financial fiasco... Can you read that you fuckwad?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: (R)etard thinks we'll vote for R ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:01PM

gemuaknar Wrote:
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> Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The fact that you personally HATE a particular
> > bunch of school-aged kids in the county
> certainly
> > does make you a worthless racist dumbfuck, but
> it
> > is no indictment of FCPS at all. So why don't
> you
> > just go off and fuck yourself, you disgraceful
> > braindead dipshit.
>
>
> Just because the big changes in FCPS student
> numbers are pointed out doesn't mean someone is
> racist. It also doesn't mean an indictment of FCPS
> because they are stuck with the kids who show up
> so it's not their fault. It anything it's an
> indictment of the Feds because they aren't
> enforcing border control and of the Fairfax Board
> of Supervisors because they aren't doing anything
> about illegals in Fairfax County.
> So yes it makes it worse in FCPS in the classrooms
> and in the budget.
> It is even more offensive to people who have
> waited and paid to immigrate here legally.


Im one of those people whose family waited and immigrated here legally. I'm not offended and I certainly won't join the side of you fucktard republicans who have kept immigration quotes arbitrarily low for the past 2 decades because of your xenophobic racist bases in the south and DER TURKIN ERRRR GERBS!!!!

Fuck you.

My family waited 8 years to be able to come here, and then another 13 years to finally get citizenship. You think that should be a healthy immigration policy? Perhaps you douchebags could stop trying to repeal established laws and shutting down the government long enough to pass a law, then maybe we wouldnt have border crises caused by your stupid immigration policies

Cunt

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: (R)etard Alert ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:04PM

Stick this in your ass Wrote:
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> I just want to clarify something that the moronic
> Asshole Discoveries and he is discovering that he
> likes things in his asshole. In one post, this
> clueless cocksucker, blames the collapse of 2008
> on his favorite term GOP goobers. Now, I don't
> really care that much for the GOP either, but this
> this talking point is complete and utter bullshit.
> And fucking liberals recite it like the Koran,
> which they love... right? OK Further Asshole
> Diiscories... is it a dildo you discovered in your
> ass? Let's look at what the Bosotn Globe said
> about your faggot hero, who you say is blameless
> in the mortgage based collapse. And you stupid
> dibpshit, the Boston Globe is liberal:
>
> http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinio
> n/oped/articles/2008/09/28/franks_fingerprints_are
> _all_over_the_financial_fiasco/
>
> Franks fingerprints all over the financial
> fiasco... Can you read that you fuckwad?


Lol, OpEd = not affiliated with the politics of the paper some times, depends on the actual columnist. For instance, I can find lots of whack job right wing trash in the Washington Post and New York Times editorials as well talkin about how Bush is great, Cheney should be trusted, etc.

Secondly, just because you are teaparty doesn't mean you aren't butt buddies with the GOP. So shut the fuck up. We know you GOP and GOP+ folks have your panties in a twist about who hates the black president the most, but for the rest of us here in GDP producing America, we see you as idiot placating dinosaurs, and racist ignorant southern douches... in other words we see you as conservitard republicans.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: We just think you're a dumbuck ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:06PM

(R)etard thinks we'll vote for R Wrote:
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>
> Im one of those people whose family waited and
> immigrated here legally. I'm not offended and I
> certainly won't join the side of you fucktard
> republicans who have kept immigration quotes
> arbitrarily low for the past 2 decades because of
> your xenophobic racist bases in the south and DER
> TURKIN ERRRR GERBS!!!!
>
> Fuck you.
>
> My family waited 8 years to be able to come here,
> and then another 13 years to finally get
> citizenship. You think that should be a healthy
> immigration policy? Perhaps you douchebags could
> stop trying to repeal established laws and
> shutting down the government long enough to pass a
> law, then maybe we wouldnt have border crises
> caused by your stupid immigration policies
>
> Cunt


^ Yet another example of a typical libtard. lol

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: MarkMcW ()
Date: July 24, 2014 12:12AM

listen windbag apologist FAD, blow all the hot air and insults you like, it doesn't matter.

every way it's looked at, fcps budget is busted wide open by exploding population of very high needs kids in the last few years. fy2009 is the real start of the downslide.


***Serving a Growing Student Population
Fairfax County Public Schools serves the needs of a growing
student population. As more students are projected to enter
our classrooms in FY 2014, more teaching and school staff
positions are needed. A shift in student demographics is also
occurring as the enrollment climbs. Students receiving services
for English for Speakers of Other Languages has increased
42.3 percent since FY 2009 and students eligible for free or
reduced-price meals, which is an indicator for poverty, has
increased 35.5 percent in the same time period.
http://www.fcps.edu/cco/pubs/myfcps/employees/2013_02_20/stateoftheschools.shtml***


15,000 kids in a few years? that ain't 1.1% bro.
it is why we keep getting screwed on re tax increases though.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Liberty's Gaping Gash ()
Date: July 24, 2014 04:15AM

(R)etard thinks we'll vote for R Wrote:
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> gemuaknar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The fact that you personally HATE a
> particular
> > > bunch of school-aged kids in the county
> > certainly
> > > does make you a worthless racist dumbfuck,
> but
> > it
> > > is no indictment of FCPS at all. So why
> don't
> > you
> > > just go off and fuck yourself, you
> disgraceful
> > > braindead dipshit.
> >
> >
> > Just because the big changes in FCPS student
> > numbers are pointed out doesn't mean someone is
> > racist. It also doesn't mean an indictment of

>
> Im one of those people whose family waited and
> immigrated here legally. I'm not offended and I
> certainly won't join the side of you fucktard
> republicans who have kept immigration quotes
> arbitrarily low for the past 2 decades because of
> your xenophobic racist bases in the south and DER
> TURKIN ERRRR GERBS!!!!
>
> Fuck you.
>
> My family waited 8 years to be able to come here,
> and then another 13 years to finally get
> citizenship. You think that should be a healthy
> immigration policy?

What a gigantic, repulsive ungrateful cunt you are.

Please, by all means, if you think our titanic annual immigration quotas are too small feel free to immigrate to a more accommodating first world country like Australia, Germany or Canada...

Oh wait it's a total bitch getting into those countries if you're not white or a highly specialized Asian, compared to whorish America with its comparatively gaping open front door.

I guess those countries are far more "xenophobic and racist" than long suffering America, but because were such pathetic whipped dogs we get to listen to ungrateful cunts like you say things that would get you thrown into an Australian refugee camp.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "waited 8 years" ()
Date: July 24, 2014 08:24AM

What took them so long? Couldn't collect enough $$$ by blowing sailors? 13 years for citizenship?

As one with several naturalized citizens in the family, I'm calling bullshit on your claim.

Prove that it took them 13 years with no extenuating circumstances, or STFU, troll.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: we are a great country for sure ()
Date: July 24, 2014 08:48AM

In Australia, they don't even let them set foot in the country. They send them off to some camp in New Zealand while they are "processed". In Europe there is no automatic citizenship by birth. In Germany there are no "German as a Second Language" classes in the public schools. The immigrants must pay for their own German lessons until they can test high enough to go to public school. I know this because I had an Afghani student who had spent 6 years in Germany before coming here. Her German was excellent (yeah, German accent in English) and she actually missed Germany (spending your formative years somewhere is significant in terms of your idea of where you are from and who you are). We are truly a great country in terms of what we do for immigrants. We should be proud of that, but we should know our limits.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Vulture ()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:43PM

All of you need to shut up.

You all are fighting over *Public* school. Anything that's public and available to everyone and anyone is going to suck, period. You are just seeing this now. The whole reason why Fairfax County and the country in general are bringing in all these immigrants is to displace lower class Whites and ghetto Blacks. You realize that there are FEMA prison camps already in place? Where do you think the displaced citizens will go? Don't think they will be forced in there either, after awhile, they will be begging to get in!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dee dee doo doo ()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:51PM

Tinfoil much?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi ()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:51PM

But they're just like the baby Jesus.

Are you going to deny the baby Jesus ESOL support and free lunches?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Pontius Pilate ()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:59PM

Nancy Pelosi Wrote:
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> But they're just like the baby Jesus.
>
> Are you going to deny the baby Jesus ESOL support
> and free lunches?


We all know what happened to Jesus in the end...People are sick and tired of these ILLEGAL dirty no good fuckers, a backlash will happen.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Vulture ()
Date: July 24, 2014 08:07PM

No tinfoil, google "FEMA camps in America" and see them for yourself. They even have footage on youTube.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: grw ()
Date: July 25, 2014 07:43PM

the whites are pretty much fucked in the US or anywhere else. White women don't want have kids no more or can't becasue of all the STD's they got in college after the blakcs run a train on them. Europe from Norway to Grece, germany to Spain is getting replenish by Muslims and Africans. Walk in Paris you might as well be in senegal or Mali. The UK is full of Pakistanians and nigerians, most of them do not even work. Australia is full of Indonesians and all the Asians moving in, same in New Zeland. No white heaven any more. Check Canada, half of Jamaica lives there and thousands of Chinese and Arabs. You might as well move to the Farkland Islands. White folks just need to accept it, and then go to the senior center so the African nurse assistants can clean their behinds as the they discuss the great generation and World War II

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Retard Alert Means himself ()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:40PM

Hey FAD and Retard I am Alert... you are probably the same person and if not, you are sucking each other cocks or butt fucking each other....

Invite some illegals over to your house today fuck faces.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:01PM

BlueinNoVa Wrote:
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> If there wasn't a 51% ESOL population increase for
> 29,000 students or 52,000 FRM students which has
> grown to 1 in 4 FCPS kids, the budget needs
> wouldn't be as great as they are.

Expanding ESOL comes with some costs, but for the millionth time, the Feds pay for FRM, not FCPS. Basically, these are demographic, not budgetary numbers.

> It's not hard. But when ever other word you type
> is f' this or f' that, powers of deduction are
> limited, I guess.

That would be wrong, you stupid worthless goober dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:29PM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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>
> Expanding ESOL comes with some costs, but for the
> millionth time, the Feds pay for FRM, not FCPS.
> Basically, these are demographic, not budgetary
> numbers.


So your argument is that since the "Feds" pay it's not coming from American TAXPAYER?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:30PM

Further Asshole is a cocksucker Wrote:
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> Hey Asshole discoveries you cocksucking moron.
> Nooo... Fannie and Fweddie were alright stupid ass
> wipe...

They were just fine in 2003 when Barney Frank (and pretty much everybody else) was saying they were not in any existing or looming crisis. Far from it, in fact.

> ...the easy money for your voting blocks to
> get mortgage had nothing to do with the system
> going down. Liberal faggots like you are useless.

I don't have any voting blocks -- or blocs, for that matter -- but the people who were engaging in worse and worse predatory lending practices and abuses and earning greater and greater profits from it all were private brokers (Countrywide, Ameriquest, New Century Financial, etc.) and the private-label securitizers that the Wall Street "big five" had built out as detours around the lending standards of Fannie Mae et al. Wall Street greed and dumbshit laissez-faire Bushie refusal to halt the process are what caused the crisis.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: drinkwater431 ()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:36PM

At the FCPS School Board meeting this week the Superintendent said that Fairfax has moved to the 10th largest school district in the country. They were 11th. Being in the 10 largest isn't a positive because it just means more students with the same limited resources.

The worse news may come soon because she said by the start of school in September the registration numbers could push FCPS to 9th largest.

FCPS increased 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008 and 2014.
High needs, High poverty, High ESOL students numbers = source of biggest growth.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: costs ()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:39PM

http://www.fairus.org/Default.aspx?PageID=12601279&A=SearchResult&SearchID=7739186&ObjectID=12601279&ObjectType=1

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshhole Discoverys ()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:53PM

Stick this in your ass Wrote:
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> And you stupid dibpshit, the Boston Globe is liberal:

Really? Who owns the Globe? In any case. the author (I use the term loosely) is Jeff Jacoby, not a liberal at all, but a hack propagandist. No serious person anywhere believes that the Community Reinvestment Act had anything to do with the credit crisis. That is a complete fiction invented by Thomas DiLorenzo of the freaking Mises Institute (same guy who thinks Lincoln was our worst President) in a desperate attempt to divert mounting blame for the collapse away from Republicans and onto whatever Democrats he could, but particularly the hated Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. This is all pure fairy tale nonsense, but you assholes will buy it all if it's merely told to you often enough. Stupid dumbfucks.

Next the asshole Jacoby claims that actual Fed policies tried to push banks to make loans against their will or face the prospect of heavy fines. That's more invented bullshit. There has never been a law, rule, policy, or court decision calling for lenders to extend credit to ANY borrower who was not fully qualified for it. Once again though, you stupid dumbshits buy the crap no matter how foul-smelling it is. That's the price of being stupid -- you'll fall for fucking anything. Worthless dumbasses.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:18PM

MarkMcW Wrote:
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> listen windbag apologist FAD, blow all the hot air
> and insults you like, it doesn't matter.

So, go fuck yourself then, you stupid ignorant douchebag. You are in possession of no valid information at all.

> every way it's looked at, fcps budget is busted
> wide open by exploding population of very high
> needs kids in the last few years. fy2009 is the
> real start of the downslide.

LOL! 2009 is the teeth of the fucking Great Recession you right-wing assholes caused. As they lost their jobs, these immigrants you hate so much actually began to "self-deport" as mindless fucktards called it, but kids whose parents had been only marginally able to afford private school or whose home-schooling parents had to go out and get an actual job to try to help make ends meet all got dumped back into FCPS. As for overall FCPS membership (that's the actual word for enrollment), in 2002, it was 160,697. In 2014, it was 183,231. Go use your copious goober math skills to figure out the annualized rate of increase.

As for FCPS budget issues, there are many causes, chief among them being the Board of Supervisors' refusal to restore to FCPS not just the resources they lost during the Great recession, but even what was taken away from them at that time. Class sizes are growing, teachers are leaving, programs are being cut back. The strength of Fairfax County as a vibrant and successful economic area springs from the strengths of our school system. Deliberately gutting it is simply folly.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: AHA! ()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:36PM

FAD'ys is limpy the gimp.

Stu Gibson the nastiest person ever to serve on the Fairfax school board.

Found another place for him to spew more Stu.

Ew.



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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Forther Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:42PM

we are a great country for sure Wrote:
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> In Europe there is no automatic citizenship by birth.

Yes, there is. In Germany since you were talking about it, all you need is a German parent. But in 2000, they also liberalized the rules for gaining citizenship without a German parent.

Basically, there are two means of acquiring citizenship at birth. The first is "jus soli" or birth on a country's soil. Virtually the entire western hemisphere has this, but it's not that common elsewhere. The second is "jus sanguinis" or birth to parents, one or both of whom are a country's citizens. Almost all countries have some form of this, but the conditions may vary. The UN is very concerned about "stateless" people -- those who don't have citizenship anywhere -- and has been pressuring members to help make statelessness impossible.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Jewh8ter fucked up again... ()
Date: July 26, 2014 12:36AM

"by birth" meaning "location", dumbfuq, and here's the quote from the German Embassy:
"German citizenship is not established through birth on German territory but by descent from a German legal mother and/or a German legal father."

Note too that to become a German citizen,"fluency in the German language is another precondition"

So much for "it's easy in Germany" bullshit. Our resident asstroll goes down again.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 08:08AM

Retard Alert Means himself Wrote:
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> Invite some illegals over to your house today fuck faces.

I don't know about (R)etard Alert, but while I can tell if a person speaks Spanish and at least vaguely looks to be of Hispanic heritage, I can't tell (and neither can you) who is an immigrant and who is native-born, much less make any sort of guess at all as to whether an actual immigrant is legal (i.e., documented) or not. From where I sit, it's only total assholes who think they can do that.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Furtehr Assholes Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 08:23AM

an odd response Wrote:
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> If you read the related threads, it's pretty clear
> that conservatives are concerned about this fact
> and liberals think it is wonderful. I don't get
> it, but it's the way it is.

If you weren't of such sharply limited intelligence, you would have realized that everyone is concerned about our schools and the students in them. The larger point is that these people you unjustly dignify by calling them "conservatives" (a better term would have been "assholes") are concerned for all the wrong and a bunch of totally phony race-based reasons. Other people (we'll call them the "non-assholes") are concerned that FCPS has been underfunded since the onset of the Great Bush Recession, and that both the state and county have failed to step up to restore and protect the funding needed to maintain the excellence in education that has been such a driver of economic interest in the area from both individuals and corporations. We have a golden goose here. Killing it would not be a good idea at all, but that's what worthless dingbat anti-tax and anti-spending morons are all about. Stupid dumbshit fucktards.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ah, it's BOOOOOOSHS fault... ()
Date: July 26, 2014 08:59AM

Thanks for clearing that up, asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "vaguely looks" ()
Date: July 26, 2014 09:01AM

You can tell nationality by "vague looks"? That's fucking amazing. Tell me, what "race" is El Salvadoran? Costa Rican? Brazilian?

You, asshole, are a racist. Pure, simple, jewh8ting racemonger. Sad that you live in the 21st century, but there it is.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 09:01AM

Liberty's Gaping Gash Wrote:
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> Please, by all means, if you think our titanic
> annual immigration quotas are too small feel free
> to immigrate...

What good would that do? Oh, that's right...it was just a stupid emotional outburst. Meanwhile, our immigration "quotas" are plainly too low. The economy is in fact demanding workers at various wage/salary levels that the domestic labor market either cannot or does not provide. The rest-of-world area has a healthy collection of just the sorts of people we are looking for. 2 + 2 = 4, right? But no. We stupidly try to cap the flow of such needed workers at unrealistically low levels, hence what comes naturally ends up occurring in the dark instead of out in the open, leading to exactly the sort of please-nobody cock-up that we have today. The immigration mess will not be fixed until it is easier to come here and work legally than it is to come here and work illegally. That's the bottom line. The US does not have enough native-born workers to back-fill behind the now retiring baby-boomers. The aging of the boomers and of the population generally will only increase the demand for home, health, and personal care services that immigrants already dominate. As the result, many, many more of them will be coming regardless of what we do. We can act sensibly or continue to be stupid. Pretty sure I know which side you'll take on the matter.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FEMA Camper ()
Date: July 26, 2014 09:09AM

Vulture Wrote:
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> No tinfoil, google "FEMA camps in America" and see
> them for yourself. They even have footage on
> youTube.

LOL! After that, google the "NAFTA Superhighway" and the "Amero". But I did google "FEMA camps". This is from the first-listed hit...

"FEMA concentration camps exist in the mind of a particularly loopy bunch of conspiracy theorists who believe that mass internment facilities have been built across the continental United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, in preparation for a future declaration of martial law."

So, how loopy would you say you are, actually? Kind of loopy? Pretty loopy? Totally loopy? I'm guessing that it's C.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: July 26, 2014 09:11AM

grw Wrote:
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> the whites are pretty much fucked in the US or
> anywhere else. White women don't want have kids no
> more...

US fertility rates are indeed at 90-year lows, but the rate for whites has held fairly constant. Nearly all of the reductions have come among minority non-white populations.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further ()
Date: July 26, 2014 09:23AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> So your argument is that since the "Feds" pay it's
> not coming from American TAXPAYER?

No, that it isn't paid for by FCPS, meaning that increases in FRMs are not driving any school budget shortfalls at all. They have no impact on the FCPS budget.

Furthermore, it's US investors and those in China, Japan, the UK, and elsewhere who acquire US debt who are actually paying for it. It's not US taxpayers either. US taxpayers don't pay for much these days. Taxes overall have been at their lowest levels since the 1950's.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Say what? ()
Date: July 26, 2014 09:35AM

Surely nobody thinks the Feds...which of course means us taxpayers (us) picks up the tab for educating the illegals.

Look at the budget for fops. The majority is local taxes...real estate and sales tax and some state tax. Very little comes from the federal budget.

Either way we py it not some magic money tree.

The burden is too much...time to deport. I'm sick of paying someone else's bills.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:11AM

drinkwater431 Wrote:
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> At the FCPS School Board meeting this week the
> Superintendent said that Fairfax has moved to the
> 10th largest school district in the country. They
> were 11th. Being in the 10 largest isn't a
> positive because it just means more students with
> the same limited resources.

Huh??? Don't more people live here each year? Aren't more dwellings built, owned, and occupied each year? Don't most people receive some sort of wage increases in an average year? What exactly do you think "resources" are?

> The worse news may come soon because she said by
> the start of school in September the registration
> numbers could push FCPS to 9th largest.

There are no financial effects from national ranking. This isn't college football.

> FCPS increased 14,000 Hispanic students between 2008
> and 2014. High needs, High poverty, High ESOL students
> numbers = source of biggest growth.

A student's being Hispanic doesn't cost FCPS anything extra, and there are many well-off Hispanic families in the county whose children need no more special services than yours do.

ESOL does bring extra costs, but it involves more than simply Hispanics, as the translation of school documents into Arabic, Chinese, Farsi, Korean, Urdu, and Vietnamese would suggest. This is a strongly and diversely international area, and it is only becoming more so. Adapt or die, dinosaur.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Disoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:18AM

costs Wrote:
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As opposed to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, this version of FAIR is a nativist slime-organization. Skinheads with better than some neo-nazi T-shirt on.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Forther Asshole Disoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:36AM

Jewh8ter fucked up again... Wrote:
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> "by birth" meaning "location", dumbfuq,

Jus soli versus jus sanguinis. Already outlined for you and you STILL fucked it up. Moron.

> ...and here's the quote from the German Embassy:
> "German citizenship is not established through
> birth on German territory but by descent from a
> German legal mother and/or a German legal
> father."

Apparently you believe that "descent" can occur independently of "birth"? What a useless asshole. Go back to bed.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: SpeakEnglishDammit ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:39AM

Further Asshole Disoverys Wrote:
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> costs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> As opposed to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting,
> this version of FAIR is a nativist
> slime-organization. Skinheads with better than
> some neo-nazi T-shirt on.

FAIR was declared a hate group by a hate group. Talk about haters, the Southern Poverty Law Center is spewing hatred continuously on George $oro$ dime.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:42AM

Ah, it's BOOOOOOSHS fault... Wrote:
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> Thanks for clearing that up, asshole.

LOL! Quite a number of god-awful things were Bush's fault, and they all still are. He doesn't get some sort of clean-slate hall-pass just because he skipped out of town. History books will be blaming Bush for all the stuff he messed up for centuries. Better get used to it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "right of the soil" bullshitter ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:49AM

Throws in some LAAAATINNNN (follow that teabaggerracistscum!!!!!) and completely fucks up trying to reinterpret the simple terms from the Germans. Then proceeds to fuck itself by trying to claim some point about birth/descent, which no one else has trouble comprehending.

Too fucking funny.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Furtehr Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:49AM

"vaguely looks" Wrote:
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> You can tell nationality by "vague looks"?

Hispanic is not a nationality, dumbass. And yes, I can tell if a person standing before me vaguely looks Hispanic. Or black, or South or East Asian, or even Pacific Islander in many cases. If you can't do that, it's just one more very serious problem that you have. Seek help.

> You, asshole, are a racist. Pure, simple,
> jewh8ting racemonger. Sad that you live in the
> 21st century, but there it is.

The only class of people I dislike is assholes. You would be one of those, so go fuck yourself, you worthless moron.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Racist asshole still won't ... ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:50AM

answer basic questions, continues to fuck it's own face.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: why people are not happy ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:52AM

FurtherAssholeDiscoverys wrote:

drinkwater431 Wrote:
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> At the FCPS School Board meeting this week the
> Superintendent said that Fairfax has moved to the
> 10th largest school district in the country. They
> were 11th. Being in the 10 largest isn't a
> positive because it just means more students with
> the same limited resources.

Huh??? Don't more people live here each year? Aren't more dwellings built, owned, and occupied each year? Don't most people receive some sort of wage increases in an average year? What exactly do you think "resources" are?




Sure more people live here, but more dwellings are NOT built each year. My own street has more and more cars as each house is occupied by more and more people. And people do not receive some sort of wage increases in an average year. If you hadn't noticed, sequestration is still in effect and many workers were furloughed last year. People actually made LESS money. Many of FCPS's own employees have had their contracts reduced. The federal government is a big driver of the local economy. Will Congress ensure that job cuts will not happen and we will continue to be the rich county we have been? It certainly doesn't look too good for the next couple of years. But, yes, long term we may have growth if the private sector grows. But those personal care jobs for baby boomers are not the kind of jobs that will create a lot of taxes. Many of the boomers will move out of this area in order to find cheaper overall costs (and less traffic and better lifestyle). I suppose fast food and cheap construction labor (the roads really need to be fixed) will always be needed. I wonder if there is enough competition in those areas. The lower the wages go, the more people you will have in each house, apartment, etc. This type of housing is not always the most sanitary or sane (more cars, more neighborhood strife, more urban social problems). As Mr. Moon said, you have a tipping point in schools that become 40% or more FRMs. I'm not making this stuff up.

Capitalism is great, but we also have finite resources on this planet. The challenge going forward will be to balance our resources with our growth. So far (based on the huge debt in this country), we haven't been doing a very good job.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "Further" sockpuppet... ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:53AM

Can't even comprehend the difference between "debt" and "deficit".

BTW, still waiting on explanation of 13 year bullshit...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "quota" system? WTF??? ()
Date: July 26, 2014 10:55AM

Hey asshole goober - you're seemingly unaware that the Quota system was dumped back in the '60s.

What a fucktard. Must be a jewh8ter, too.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:00AM

Say what? Wrote:
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> Look at the budget for fops. The majority is local
> taxes...real estate and sales tax and some state
> tax. Very little comes from the federal budget.

All of the cost of free and reduced price meals comes from the feds. FRMs data are principally used as a demographic -- not a budgetary -- indicator within FCPS.

> Either way we pay it not some magic money tree.

No, we don't. None of us has paid one fucking cent in extra taxes as the result federal FRMs payments. Learn how your country actually works or go back to wherever you came from. Dumbfuckistan might be the best that I could guess.

> The burden is too much...time to deport. I'm sick
> of paying someone else's bills.

Well, I'm sick of listening to stupid know-nothing goober babbling. What a bunch of totally confused and befuddled assholes.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Racist asshole troll... ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:05AM

banging away on a Saturday morning. How fucking pathetic.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: makes no difference? ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:11AM

Interesting article in the WP today:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-approves-funds-for-full-day-mondays-at-elementary-schools/2014/07/25/355364c0-1403-11e4-98ee-daea85133bc9_story.html


Although FCPS has $38 million surplus, Pat Hynes (Hunter Mill) does not think it is important to fully fund the step increase for teachers (which they have not gotten for years):


“We can’t raise money, and we can’t run in the red,” said member Pat Hynes (Hunter Mill). She said that the supervisors have put the administration at a disadvantage next year by leaving the schools “tens of millions of dollars short.”

Hynes also said that although she is seeking better compensation for schools staff, “a couple of months of step is not going to make a big difference.”

According to the 2014 Washington Area Boards of Education guide, Fairfax County’s average salary for mid-career teachers ranks behind school districts in the cities of Alexandria and Falls Church and in Arlington, Montgomery, Prince George’s and Prince William counties.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: yucky24. ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:30AM

I have no friends and I am angry!!!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:34AM

SpeakEnglishDammit Wrote:
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> FAIR was declared a hate group by a hate group.
> Talk about haters, the Southern Poverty Law Center
> is spewing hatred continuously on George $oro$ dime.

SPLC has been around since the 1970's, and has been busy ever since making life as miserable as possible for the KKK, Aryan Nations, the White Patriot Party, and a quite a long list of other such racist and nativist hate groups who defile people on the basis of class. They have no special connection to George Soros.

The brazen and bigoted liars at FAIR easily earned and richly deserved their own designation as a hate group. Hate is what makes them tick. Perhaps you too?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:43AM

"right of the soil" bullshitter Wrote:
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> Throws in some LAAAATINNNN (follow that
> teabaggerracistscum!!!!!) and completely fucks up
> trying to reinterpret the simple terms from the
> Germans. Then proceeds to fuck itself by trying to
> claim some point about birth/descent, which no one
> else has trouble comprehending. Too fucking funny.

Give up, goober. Jus soli and jus sanguinis are the actual terms. They mean what I said they mean and are used where I said they are used. Here are two nice links to wikipedia where you might possibly be able to catch up to an average eighth-grader...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: migrant worker in Vienna ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:44AM

yucky24. Wrote:
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> I have no friends and I am angry!!!!!
>
> src="http://www.drelist.com/wp-content/uploads/201
> 3/10/burried-penis-c2-1.jpg" width=3000>


I was meticulously grooming someones lawn in Vienna when I looked through the window and saw that. I could see he had FFXU up on his computer.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Sightings ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:48AM

Racist asshole still won't ... Wrote:
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> answer basic questions, continues to fuck it's own
> face.

Hmmm. Yet another worthless fucktard with nothing meaningful to say. if that's the best you can do, you can just go fuck yourself, asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:51AM

why people are not happy Wrote:
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> Sure more people live here, but more dwellings are
> NOT built each year.

Dear God!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Sightings ()
Date: July 26, 2014 12:33PM

why people are not happy Wrote:
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> If you hadn't noticed, sequestration is still in effect

No, it isn't, and neither are furloughs. Federal pay freezes have also ended, and even the woefully underfunded FCPS will be give teachers a pay raise at the end of the year. Just 21% of Fairfax County residents are employed by ANY level of government, but if you want more economic support from Congress, you'll have to get rid of the Republicans. Private sector wages have also been growing and are expect to continue to do so.

http://www.bna.com/wage-trend-indicator-p12884902670/

Strong long-term growth in demand for home, health, and personal care services will bring more immigration. CEO's will continue to make more than these new arrivals do. They will all still pay the same taxes that you do. If those are not enough, maybe we should enact a meals tax to help out.

Boomers (and anyone else) will be disappointed if they believe that moving elsewhere in retirement or earlier will magically bring them more for less. What they will get is much less for too much. That sort of deal is available all over.

> Capitalism is great, but we also have finite
> resources on this planet.

Capitalism comes in many flavors. None of them is any unmitigated good. Some of them taste just plain awful. Limited resources is meanwhile a constant restraint. We have always faced it. Through technology, we manage to lift the ceilings over time.

US public debt is simply not a problem. It is entirely manageable at present levels, levels that are quite a bit lower than what they were after WWII, and much lower than what Japan is currently carrying.

Not having any actual answer to anything, Republicans have been preaching the evils of debt and spending ever since they were voted out of power. Before that, they didn't care. Beware the swill being sold by two-faced liars.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further ASsshole Sightings ()
Date: July 26, 2014 12:37PM

"Further" sockpuppet... Wrote:
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> Can't even comprehend the difference between
> "debt" and "deficit".

Dude, I am light years above you in any phase of economics. That's not the only subject either.

> BTW, still waiting on explanation of 13 year
> bullshit...

You'll need to be much more specific.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 12:39PM

"quota" system? WTF??? Wrote:
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> Hey asshole goober - you're seemingly unaware that
> the Quota system was dumped back in the '60s.
> What a fucktard. Must be a jewh8ter, too.

Didn't see the quote-marks, eh? Or did you just not understand why they were there? Asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 12:46PM

Racist asshole troll... Wrote:
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> banging away on a Saturday morning. How fucking
> pathetic.

For me, it's like getting in a couple of rounds of golf. I'm retired and wealthy and can do whatever I like. And sometimes I like to just sit here and crush the life out of fucking ignorant little turd-faced asshole fucktards like you. So go fuck yourself, you worthless asshole. And have a nice day.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 26, 2014 12:53PM

makes no difference? Wrote:
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> According to the 2014 Washington Area Boards of
> Education guide, Fairfax County’s average salary
> for mid-career teachers ranks behind school
> districts in the cities of Alexandria and Falls
> Church and in Arlington, Montgomery, Prince
> George’s and Prince William counties.

Had to make these and other cuts to get FCPS and the county as a whole through the storm of the Great Recession. Now we need to get ourselves caught back up, but neither the Board nor the state is addressing that need at all, much less sufficiently. A meals tax dedicated to FCPS would be one idea, and simply getting independent taxing authority to FCPS would be another. The course we are on will fly us straight into a mountain. Some sort of correction is imperative.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Sightings ()
Date: July 26, 2014 12:56PM

yucky24. Wrote:
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> I have no friends and I am angry!!!!!

I have many fiends and am smart, wealthy, and retired. Eat your fucking heart out, you pathetic goober. You have fallen behind and will never catch up.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: how? ()
Date: July 26, 2014 02:25PM

FAD wrote:

makes no difference? Wrote:
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> According to the 2014 Washington Area Boards of
> Education guide, Fairfax County’s average salary
> for mid-career teachers ranks behind school
> districts in the cities of Alexandria and Falls
> Church and in Arlington, Montgomery, Prince
> George’s and Prince William counties.

Had to make these and other cuts to get FCPS and the county as a whole through the storm of the Great Recession. Now we need to get ourselves caught back up, but neither the Board nor the state is addressing that need at all, much less sufficiently. A meals tax dedicated to FCPS would be one idea, and simply getting independent taxing authority to FCPS would be another. The course we are on will fly us straight into a mountain. Some sort of correction is imperative.

How is it that practically every other school area (including the oh so awful PWC) did not suffer so much so they can pay more to their teachers? They must be making a lot more in tax revenue? Their citizens are willing to pay more in taxes?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: sequester cuts for 9 years ()
Date: July 26, 2014 02:37PM

FAD wrote:

why people are not happy Wrote:
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> If you hadn't noticed, sequestration is still in effect

No, it isn't, and neither are furloughs. Federal pay freezes have also ended, and even the woefully underfunded FCPS will be give teachers a pay raise at the end of the year. Just 21% of Fairfax County residents are employed by ANY level of government, but if you want more economic support from Congress, you'll have to get rid of the Republicans. Private sector wages have also been growing and are expect to continue to do so.

The sequester is in effect through 2023:

http://democrats.budget.house.gov/committee-report/frequently-asked-questions-about-sequestration-under-budget-control-act-2011

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: "specific" as in... ()
Date: July 26, 2014 02:45PM

you made a claim which you (seemingly) can't support. Again.

You = fat troll afraid of sunlight.

Too fucking funny.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: pay more in taxes? ()
Date: July 26, 2014 02:46PM

None of the above, as you left out "spend less in other areas".

Dumbfuq.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: IHAVESOMANYFRIENDS ()
Date: July 26, 2014 02:48PM

THATICANSPENDANICEWEEKENDHERE!!!


Please. Do tell us more, racist goober asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: EffinBroke ()
Date: July 26, 2014 11:03PM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> Racist asshole troll... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > banging away on a Saturday morning. How fucking
> > pathetic.
>
> For me, it's like getting in a couple of rounds of
> golf. I'm retired and wealthy and can do whatever
> I like. And sometimes I like to just sit here and
> crush the life out of fucking ignorant little
> turd-faced asshole fucktards like you. So go fuck
> yourself, you worthless asshole. And have a nice
> day.


Yep, we know. Someone got it right above, Stu.
Rotten tomato throwing on behalf of FCPS parents + taxpayers commence!

Throw your little Stewie fit on-line. The numbers from FCPS tell us all we need, that ESOL percentages are skyrocketing and free & reduced numbers are too.

We can see neighborhood houses with lots and lots of people living in them. Many families don't live in one house breaking housing laws when they are legal.

The money in FCPS keeps getting directed to kids who are increasing strain on the system needing more and more services along with their parents.

Retired and wealthy? Write a big fat check to the county to enforce immigration laws and save us from becoming Detroit then.
Attachments:
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: TheFutureIsHere ()
Date: July 27, 2014 12:16AM

"surging enrollment is attributed to higher birthrates among Asian and Hispanic families, who account for one of every four births in Fairfax."

"the rise in enrollment in recent years has created capacity issues, leading the schools to use more than 990 trailers for extra classroom space. At many schools, supply closets have been transformed into miniature food banks for children who come to school hungry and return home at the end of the day to homes with bare cupboards."



Great, because schools as food pantries is just what we need for FCPS.

Where is ICE?

Velkoff said. “In Fairfax, our feeling is we welcome everybody here with open arms."

Ted Velkoff's mouth is writing checks he can't cash. It is insanity to say something like that.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-fairfax-county-kindergarten-classes-school-systems-future-comes-into-focus/2014/06/28/1ced10d2-f25e-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Get Ready Culpeper ()
Date: July 27, 2014 07:54AM

One good thing for the cocksucking bed wetter liberals who post about their love of illegal immigration in Fairfux, is that all the indigent Central Americans will soon be heading to Culpeper because of the cost of living here, or Harrisonburg for a job in the fine poultry industries... Cheap Chicken liberal fuck heads!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: You are incorrect ()
Date: July 27, 2014 10:40AM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> Say what? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Look at the budget for fops. The majority is
> local
> > taxes...real estate and sales tax and some
> state
> > tax. Very little comes from the federal budget.
>
> All of the cost of free and reduced price meals
> comes from the feds. FRMs data are principally
> used as a demographic -- not a budgetary --
> indicator within FCPS.
>
> > Either way we pay it not some magic money tree.
>
> No, we don't. None of us has paid one fucking
> cent in extra taxes as the result federal FRMs
> payments. Learn how your country actually works
> or go back to wherever you came from.
> Dumbfuckistan might be the best that I could
> guess.
>
> > The burden is too much...time to deport. I'm
> sick
> > of paying someone else's bills.
>
> Well, I'm sick of listening to stupid know-nothing
> goober babbling. What a bunch of totally confused
> and befuddled assholes.

1. The federal reimbursement for FRM does not cover all the costs to FCPS. Ignoring the fraud that exists and that no one is ever audited. The fraud is probably upwards of 50 percent in some schools.

2. The largest expense is ESL which runs about 21k ber year vs 14k for English speaking. Feds don't pay for that.

3. How many illegals are there....lost count. I am guessing 40k, maybe more. That is a lot of schools we wouldn't have built. Coaching.

Pew foundation has added it all up per state. You can read the reports. CA and TX will be bankrupt in five years. No doubt in my mind.

You pay these bills, pal. I have college tuition to pay and fund my own retirement. Why the hell should I have to pay someone else's bills who is in the US illegally. That is fucked up.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Gerry ConMan ()
Date: July 27, 2014 10:43AM

You are incorrect Wrote:
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> Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Say what? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Look at the budget for fops. The majority is
> > local
> > > taxes...real estate and sales tax and some
> > state
> > > tax. Very little comes from the federal
> budget.
> >
> > All of the cost of free and reduced price meals
> > comes from the feds. FRMs data are principally
> > used as a demographic -- not a budgetary --
> > indicator within FCPS.
> >
> > > Either way we pay it not some magic money
> tree.
> >
> > No, we don't. None of us has paid one fucking
> > cent in extra taxes as the result federal FRMs
> > payments. Learn how your country actually
> works
> > or go back to wherever you came from.
> > Dumbfuckistan might be the best that I could
> > guess.
> >
> > > The burden is too much...time to deport. I'm
> > sick
> > > of paying someone else's bills.
> >
> > Well, I'm sick of listening to stupid
> know-nothing
> > goober babbling. What a bunch of totally
> confused
> > and befuddled assholes.
>
> 1. The federal reimbursement for FRM does not
> cover all the costs to FCPS. Ignoring the fraud
> that exists and that no one is ever audited. The
> fraud is probably upwards of 50 percent in some
> schools.
>
> 2. The largest expense is ESL which runs about 21k
> ber year vs 14k for English speaking. Feds don't
> pay for that.
>
> 3. How many illegals are there....lost count. I am
> guessing 40k, maybe more. That is a lot of schools
> we wouldn't have built. Coaching.
>
> Pew foundation has added it all up per state. You
> can read the reports. CA and TX will be bankrupt
> in five years. No doubt in my mind.
>
> You pay these bills, pal. I have college tuition
> to pay and fund my own retirement. Why the hell
> should I have to pay someone else's bills who is
> in the US illegally. That is fucked up.

We do not have a problem with illegal immigration in Fairfax County.

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Posted by: backbone being broken ()
Date: July 27, 2014 11:01AM

Government employees (at all levels) now have to pay into 401K type accounts in order to fund their retirements. This has been true for federal employees for many years and is now true for state employees (including FCPS). Since all levels of government can no longer afford to give defined pensions, there will be more and more people who are upset with illegal immigration. People are under a lot of stress when they have to pay increases for college for their kids (way above inflation because the government is also no longer funding these places) and find money to save for their own retirements. Meanwhile the government seems to have enough money to shuttle illegal immigrants all over the country.

Absurd. This is not about racism or assholism. It's about money. If we had tons of money, okay, do whatever.

I just read that there are 16 million homeowners in this country who are still "underwater". We can bail out the big banks and help "illegals", but we can't help our own citizens who are working? Being in the middle sucks. You just get to pay the bills.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: America First Illegals Go Home ()
Date: July 27, 2014 11:20AM

So true, and our veterans are all being taken care of so well. We are all so well off here. And Obama now wants asylum for these illegals.

Take the 3.7 billion he wants to piss away on the border divide that by about 150 million Taxpayers and send us taxpayers a check for 25 dollars to spend in our local economeys.

Send the illegals home.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 12:56PM

You are incorrect Wrote:
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> 1. The federal reimbursement for FRM does not
> cover all the costs to FCPS.

Yes, it does. If you wish to pursue some ultimately humiliating argument to the contrary, please begin by providing a list of the actual program-related incremental costs that are not covered.

> Ignoring the fraud that exists and that no one is
> ever audited.

Anyone receiving SNAP or TANF benefits is automatically eligible for FRMs. Many though not all families receiving WIC are automatically eligible for FRMs. FRMs-eligible families are often eligible for but not yet enrolled in S-CHIP. These programs pass info back and forth routinely. Additionally, the FCPS Office of Food & Nutrition Services performs verification audits throughout the school year. Does this mean that there is a 0% fraud rate? No. Does it mean that you are a stupid goober dumbfuck? Yes. Stupid is bad for you -- you should give it up.

> The fraud is probably upwards of 50 percent in some schools.

According to what, your asshole? That's a trusted source alright.

> 2. The largest expense is ESL which runs about 21k
> ber year vs 14k for English speaking. Feds don't
> pay for that.

It's ESOL, beanbag, but the feds don't pay for that, whether a student's primary language is Arabic, Chinese, Farsi, Goober, Korean, Spanish, Urdu, Vietnamese, or something else. ESOL students are an added expense for FCPS, just as gifted and talented students, athletes, IDEA students, and those in alternative schools are. Teaching all types however is the core function of any free universal public school system. FCPS is one of those, and quite a good one. Much better than some one-room schoolhouse back in Dustbowlburg.

> 3. How many illegals are there....lost count. I am
> guessing 40k, maybe more. That is a lot of schools
> we wouldn't have built. Coaching.

You lost count before you got to 1. 40K would be close to the total number of FCPS students with an Hispanic heritage. You of course haven't the foggiest notion of which or how many among them might be illegal. Keep in mind that any of them born here are US citizens, and that many are happier to have them in the fold than you.

> Pew foundation has added it all up per state. You
> can read the reports. CA and TX will be bankrupt
> in five years. No doubt in my mind.

Is gold going to $10,000 an ounce soon as well? Tin-foil hats can be powerful things. But not as powerful as Wonder Woman's "Lasso of Truth", something you would actually have benefited much more from than that dumb hat. God, you look stupid!

> You pay these bills, pal. I have college tuition
> to pay and fund my own retirement. Why the hell
> should I have to pay someone else's bills who is
> in the US illegally. That is fucked up.

Oh, you're just so special! Everybody has bills, you selfish greedy goober fucktard moron. Take Hispanics, for example. Or wealthy retired people. Maybe you should have started your little college and retirement savings plans a little sooner, and done a little more to protect them than voting for a total asshole to be the 43rd President. It's him and your own damned dipshit self you should be mad at, not Hispanics. Try a little "Personal Responsibility®" for a change. Can't take that much heat? Well fuck off, then.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 12:59PM

Gerry ConMan Wrote:
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> We do not have a problem with illegal immigration
> in Fairfax County.

True by definition. Asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: check ()
Date: July 27, 2014 01:17PM

AD wrote:


The fraud is probably upwards of 50 percent in some schools.

According to what, your asshole? That's a trusted source alright.


Read:

http://educationnext.org/fraud-in-the-lunchroom/

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: fun fun fun ()
Date: July 27, 2014 01:35PM

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/07/school_board_members_and_others_lied_to_get_free_lunch_for_their_kids_state_comptroller_says.html


They should just give free lunch to EVERYBODY and have it over with. Same for health care. They should have a basic level of food and health care for everyone. If you want the french fries or the strawberry milk or the anesthesia with your wisdom tooth removal, then you pay. But basic food and basic health care is for everyone. When you have all these limits and people are cheating, it pisses off the people who have to pay for it and then they cheat too. Pretty soon you have everybody trying to game the system. It costs a lot to monitor all the cheating. It was so out of control that the president of the school board had her kids on free lunch. What a model.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Futher Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 02:02PM

backbone being broken Wrote:
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> Government employees (at all levels) now have to
> pay into 401K type accounts in order to fund their
> retirements. This has been true for federal
> employees for many years and is now true for state
> employees (including FCPS). Since all levels of
> government can no longer afford to give defined
> pensions, there will be more and more people who
> are upset with illegal immigration.

Whether documented or not, immigrants are doing nothing to harm you. The people you SHOULD be upset with are the Romneyists and other right-wing corporatist types who in the name of short-term profit-taking, sacked all your private sector benefits and then used their vast media empires to go into stupid-goober farming, raising up crop after crop of the ignorant anti-tax dumbfucks who make it difficult now for even public sector systems to maintain proper compensation. It's all a giant race to the bottom for you and for tens of millions of others, while it's all an increasingly cozy and comfortable recline at an ever higher top for them. When are you assholes ever going to wake up and smell the fucking coffee?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Futher Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 02:04PM

Hahahaha sucks to be you goober fucktards. The majority of my income is unearned income, I don't pay the same tax rate as you guys do. Fuck my lawn looks good.

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Posted by: we do smell the coffee ()
Date: July 27, 2014 03:49PM

"Whether documented or not, immigrants are doing nothing to harm you. The people you SHOULD be upset with are the Romneyists and other right-wing corporatist types who in the name of short-term profit-taking, sacked all your private sector benefits and then used their vast media empires to go into stupid-goober farming, raising up crop after crop of the ignorant anti-tax dumbfucks who make it difficult now for even public sector systems to maintain proper compensation. It's all a giant race to the bottom for you and for tens of millions of others, while it's all an increasingly cozy and comfortable recline at an ever higher top for them. When are you assholes ever going to wake up and smell the fucking coffee?"

Heck, we are mad at the Romney types---of course. But we're not happy seeing the immigrants undercut our wages either. We can be upset about both you know. It's all part of the same problem. The short-term profit-taking comes on the backs of the immigrants as well. We certainly aren't making any money off the immigrants, but the likes of Romney (and you no doubt) are.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: fuck pedro ()
Date: July 27, 2014 03:52PM

ILLEGAL...Just what part of ILLEGAL do you fuckers not understand? fuck the spic kids,next wave of locust welfare non working leaches.
send them back. fuck em.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 06:46PM

check Wrote:
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> Read:

LOL! Your asshole would actually have been a better source. The John Locke Foundation is an ultra-rightwing sock-puppet group of corporatist billionaires -- especially Arthur Pope, but also people with names like Lambe, Hume, Roe, and (of course) the Koch brothers, both directly and through extensive financial and personnel ties between JLF and the Koch-founded and controlled American Legislative Exchange Council and State Policy Network. There is no suspense or mystery at all as to how any JLF "analysis" will turn out. JLF is a laissez-faire extremist group opposed to virtually all forms of public intervention from social safety nets to zoning and workplace safety laws. They can and do wantonly and regularly lie, cheat, steal, distort, and misrepresent in attempts to bend the facts to whatever versions of non-reality they prefer.

Notice in this article how much the author wants you to believe that parents do not respond to confirmation letters because they are in fact committing fraud. Even when follow up studies show no such thing. Notice that the authors of the Mathematica study cited in the article refute the claims that were made about it. Notice how much the author wants you to believe that a federal limit of 3,000 or 3% for a verification audit sample is part of a conspiracy to hide the truth about fraud. In fact it is because 3% or 3,000 is already well more than an adequate sample size and going further is simply to waste program funds on harassing low-income people rather than feeding them, all without gaining any new or different information. And of course, if programs actually did go beyond 3%, someone at JLF would be writing an article claiming that high levels of fraud in FRMs are proven by the fact that so much verification has to be done. Two-faced assholes playing both sides of the street? That's simply who the jerks at JLF really are.

In brief, paying any attention at all to such pandering disinformation sources as the John Locke Foundation is how one becomes an ignorant asshole to begin with. You should wean yourself from such tainted infantile slop as quickly as possible.

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Posted by: didn't read it ()
Date: July 27, 2014 06:54PM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> check Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Read:
>
> LOL! Your asshole would actually have been a
> better source. The John Locke Foundation is an
> ultra-rightwing sock-puppet group of corporatist
> billionaires -- especially Arthur Pope, but also
> people with names like Lambe, Hume, Roe, and (of
> course) the Koch brothers, both directly and
> through extensive financial and personnel ties
> between JLF and the Koch-founded and controlled
> American Legislative Exchange Council and State
> Policy Network. There is no suspense or mystery
> at all as to how any JLF "analysis" will turn out.
> JLF is a laissez-faire extremist group opposed to
> virtually all forms of public intervention from
> social safety nets to zoning and workplace safety
> laws. They can and do wantonly and regularly lie,
> cheat, steal, distort, and misrepresent in
> attempts to bend the facts to whatever versions of
> non-reality they prefer.
>
> Notice in this article how much the author wants
> you to believe that parents do not respond to
> confirmation letters because they are in fact
> committing fraud. Even when follow up studies
> show no such thing. Notice that the authors of
> the Mathematica study cited in the article refute
> the claims that were made about it. Notice how
> much the author wants you to believe that a
> federal limit of 3,000 or 3% for a verification
> audit sample is part of a conspiracy to hide the
> truth about fraud. In fact it is because 3% or
> 3,000 is already well more than an adequate sample
> size and going further is simply to waste program
> funds on harassing low-income people rather than
> feeding them, all without gaining any new or
> different information. And of course, if programs
> actually did go beyond 3%, someone at JLF would be
> writing an article claiming that high levels of
> fraud in FRMs are proven by the fact that so much
> verification has to be done. Two-faced assholes
> playing both sides of the street? That's simply
> who the jerks at JLF really are.
>
> In brief, paying any attention at all to such
> pandering disinformation sources as the John Locke
> Foundation is how one becomes an ignorant asshole
> to begin with. You should wean yourself from such
> tainted infantile slop as quickly as possible.


Douchebag says what?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: AnObserver ()
Date: July 27, 2014 06:58PM

Futher Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> Hahahaha sucks to be you goober fucktards. The
> majority of my income is unearned income, I don't
> pay the same tax rate as you guys do. Fuck my lawn
> looks good.

I highly doubt anyone who uses "goober fucktard" on a regular basis has a lawn. Unless they killed one of their relations and that's where their unearned income comes from. Seems likely. "I'll get you....you....goffy goober fucktard!"

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Real Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 07:10PM

Futher Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> Hahahaha sucks to be you goober fucktards. The
> majority of my income is unearned income, I don't
> pay the same tax rate as you guys do. Fuck my lawn
> looks good.

Nothing smells quite so much of stinging defeat as when some humiliated worthless right-wing piece-of-crap fucktard has to stoop to spoofing the handle of a conqueror. Well, obliterator, actually. But still, it's just so totally pathetic.

By the way, profits may be unearned income, but they are very capitalistic, my stupid little goober pauper friend. And they are taxed as ordinary income on line 12 of your 1040 via good old Schedule-C. It's capital gains and certain qualifying dividends that are taxed at preferential rates, but what the fuck would you know about any of that? Moron.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Grey Poupon ()
Date: July 27, 2014 07:25PM

Real Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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>
> I'm such a douchebag.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: junk race ()
Date: July 27, 2014 07:26PM

Real Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> Futher Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hahahaha sucks to be you goober fucktards. The
> > majority of my income is unearned income, I
> don't
> > pay the same tax rate as you guys do. Fuck my
> lawn
> > looks good.
>
> Nothing smells quite so much of stinging defeat as
> when some humiliated worthless right-wing
> piece-of-crap fucktard has to stoop to spoofing
> the handle of a conqueror. Well, obliterator,
> actually. But still, it's just so totally
> pathetic.
>
> By the way, profits may be unearned income, but
> they are very capitalistic, my stupid little
> goober pauper friend. And they are taxed as
> ordinary income on line 12 of your 1040 via good
> old Schedule-C. It's capital gains and certain
> qualifying dividends that are taxed at
> preferential rates, but what the fuck would you
> know about any of that? Moron.


Spic says what?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 07:51PM

we do smell the coffee Wrote:
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> Heck, we are mad at the Romney types---of course.

I'm not sure who else here you mean to include as part of this "we" thing. Most of these goobers are just knee-jerk ignorant assholes who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag if you gave them a scissors.

> But we're not happy seeing the immigrants undercut
> our wages either.

If you are a black high-school dropout, illegals may be having an effect on wage rates that are relevant to you. No other group is actually in that boat.

> We certainly aren't making any money off the
> immigrants, but the likes of Romney (and you
> no doubt) are.

The economy reaps massive benefits from immigrants. Your typical racist hate-group website is going to tally up all sorts of inflated cost figures, but they'll never ever flip the coin over for you to show the product side.

Romney himself I presume has gone back to destroying US jobs and shipping them overseas, but by far the more dangerous thing is the economic mindset that he represented -- that of the financial economy (the one about indexes and rates and margins and paper) toward the real economy (the one about actual jobs and products and resources and people). The former folks are supposed to be the assistants of the latter, not their masters. That's why Romney -- and Reagan before him -- were so dangerous. Their destructive acolytes of course still are. Monetize people, squeeze all the profit out of them that you can, then discard their leftover hulks and take a tax deduction for the loss. It's really pretty easy to see how that sort of game is going to turn out, but not enough people do.

As for me, I treat all of the people who work for me the same way. Fairly. We can all do well if we simply work together like adults.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: meal tax ()
Date: July 27, 2014 08:07PM

walk across the border

free lunch, free backpacks, free medical, free house, free food assistance

in state college tuition when you are ready

bring the rest of the family members

free social security for the older ones

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys ()
Date: July 27, 2014 08:08PM

AnObserver Wrote:
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> I highly doubt anyone who uses "goober fucktard"
> on a regular basis has a lawn.

Shows you what you know, you ignorant goober fucktard. It's actually quite a large lawn. Much larger than average, and it grows lush and green in one of the better parts of one of the nicer neighborhoods in these environs. I get a lot of enjoyment just from looking out over it as the dappled shadows dance back and forth across it in the breeze. Sometimes I think of Monet creating his garden at Giverny just so he could paint the water lilies. Each of us designed quite nicely, but I can't paint.

> Unless they killed one of their relations and
> that's where their unearned income comes from.
> Seems likely.

The cream rises to the top, dude. That's all it really takes. And that's why you are where you are, and I am where I am.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys... ()
Date: July 27, 2014 08:13PM

meal tax Wrote:
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> walk across the border free lunch, free backpacks,
> free medical, free house, free food assistance, in
> state college tuition when you are ready. bring the
> rest of the family members. free social security for
> the older ones

Free Social Security, huh? Meanwhile, maybe you should just change your name to Pedro. Sounds like your life would be so much better if you did.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: huh ()
Date: July 27, 2014 09:23PM

yup, free social security

you can collect if you do not pay in

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Double douche ()
Date: July 27, 2014 09:45PM

Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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>
> Truly, I'm one of the biggest douchebags ever.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys... ()
Date: July 27, 2014 11:07PM

huh Wrote:
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> yup, free social security>
> you can collect if you do not pay in

No, you can't. You can collect survivor or dependent benefits based on the record of someone who paid in if those provisions apply. Otherwise, not so much.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys... ()
Date: July 27, 2014 11:09PM

If you fucktards want to discuss this in person we meet up at my luxurious Vienna estate!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Such crap ()
Date: July 27, 2014 11:38PM

I would love to see this fictitious audit the food services dept did to uncover the fraud....do share with us the results.

Frm eligibility is about 48k for a family of 4.

How the fuck do 35 percent of fops families live in this county making that?

Impossible.

They lie. The cut lawns, they clean houses, they earn tips, they drive taxis.

They don't report their income. They are freeloaders.

You pay their bills asshole. The treasury would love your donation since you are so fucking loaded. Write a chek to fops while you're at it too.

Stop wasting my goddamn money.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FAD Taxing ()
Date: July 28, 2014 01:20AM

Real Further Asshole Discoverys Wrote:

> By the way, profits may be unearned income, but
> they are very capitalistic, my stupid little
> goober pauper friend. And they are taxed as
> ordinary income on line 12 of your 1040 via good
> old Schedule-C. It's capital gains and certain
> qualifying dividends that are taxed at
> preferential rates, but what the fuck would you
> know about any of that? Moron.


Profits or losses from business under Schedule C are not unearned income. Not capital gains either.

You really are taxing.

The topic is Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms

FCPS is is buried. Taxpayers in Fairfax are buried. It's not any more complicated than that no matter how much you change the subject.

Someone wrote about a food audit. Not sure what that's about. A citizenship and legal residency audit is what's needed.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: people know ()
Date: July 28, 2014 11:52AM

Eventually the truth outs. When secrets are kept and what is happening is denied, it only makes people distrust government when they find out the truth. The distrust of government is at big time high levels. People cheat because they think the system is rigged against them anyway. To its credit, FCPS has put out the statistics and they pretty much tell you what is happening. You can also see it with your own eyes (if you aren't holed up in your Vienna Mcmansion typing away).

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: IllegalsDemandToMeetWithObumbler ()
Date: July 28, 2014 12:28PM

Illegals demand representation in White House meetings


By Stephen Dinan-The Washington Times Monday, July 28, 2014

Illegal immigrants plan to picket the White House Monday afternoon, calling on fellow immigrant-rights advocacy groups to refuse TO MEET with the Obama administration until President Obama specifically includes illegal immigrants in any future meetings.

“We are among the millions of people who will either benefit or be harmed by the decisions the President makes, and we are here to represent ourselves in any future negotiations,” said Rosi Carrasco, one of ORGANIZERS, in a statement announcing the action.

Billing themselves “undocumented immigrant leaders,” the organizers said they will ERECT a picket line to symbolize their demand.

The groups are fighting to keep momentum in the immigration debate, which has seemingly turned against them in recent weeks as Mr. Obama tries to deal with the surge of illegal immigrant children and families across the border.

That has complicated the president’s stated desire to claim executive powers to halt even more deportations for illegal immigrants already in the interior of the U.S. The immigration advocates had hoped he would halt all or most deportations, but Mr. Obama is under pressure to get tougher on illegal immigration in order to avoid sending the wrong message to Central Americans who are surging across the border, hoping to gain a foothold in the U.S.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/28/illegals-demand-representation-white-house/

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: when it's controlled ()
Date: July 28, 2014 12:44PM

This is an interesting article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-new-land-of-opportunity-for-immigrants-is-germany/2014/07/27/93464262-7eff-4931-817c-786db6d21ec8_story.html

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys... ()
Date: July 28, 2014 02:53PM

Such crap Wrote:
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> I would love to see this fictitious audit the food
> services dept did to uncover the fraud....do share
> with us the results.

Fucking dumbass. Audits involve verification of income data for a single family. They are done throughout the year. One at a time.

> Frm eligibility is about 48k for a family of 4.

100% of poverty level for a family of four is currently $23,850. See if you can figure out what 130% (for free meals) and 185% (for reduced-price meals) of that amount would be. (HINT: The answers are $31,005 and $44,123.) Probably still won't get it.

> How the fuck do 35 percent of fops families live
> in this county making that? Impossible.

35% huh. LOL!

> They lie. The cut lawns, they clean houses, they
> earn tips, they drive taxis. They don't report
> their income. They are freeloaders.

Thanks for uncovering all that for us, goober. None of it's true, but A for Effort anyway.

> You pay their bills asshole. The treasury would
> love your donation since you are so fucking
> loaded. Write a chek to fops while you're at it
> too.

My federal, state, and local taxes positively DWARF yours, so as you were too fucking stupid to figure out, I am already cutting all these very large checks to all of those levels of government. Doesn't affect my lifestyle at all. That's another nice thing about being wealthy.

> Stop wasting my goddamn money.

You on the other hand are simply too stupid to make enough money to owe any taxes of consequence. It's isn't "your money" any more once you pay a tax anyway, but you wouldn't pay enough to have a say, even if they did. Stupid dumbfuck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: JustLook ()
Date: July 28, 2014 11:04PM

Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys... ()

Such crap Wrote:
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> Frm eligibility is about 48k for a family of 4.

100% of poverty level for a family of four is currently $23,850. See if you can figure out what 130% (for free meals) and 185% (for reduced-price meals) of that amount would be. (HINT: The answers are $31,005 and $44,123.) Probably still won't get it.
Attachments:
VDoE National School Lunch totals 2013-14 stats.png

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Big ole can o fraud ()
Date: July 28, 2014 11:19PM

Further Asshole Discoverys... Wrote:
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> Such crap Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would love to see this fictitious audit the
> food
> > services dept did to uncover the fraud....do
> share
> > with us the results.
>
> Fucking dumbass. Audits involve verification of
> income data for a single family. They are done
> throughout the year. One at a time.


Very few. Very rarely. With most failing to respond.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hmm ()
Date: July 28, 2014 11:42PM

Further Asshole Discoverys... Wrote:
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> huh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > yup, free social security>
> > you can collect if you do not pay in
>
> No, you can't. You can collect survivor or
> dependent benefits based on the record of someone
> who paid in if those provisions apply. Otherwise,
> not so much.


read the website

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: JustLook ()
Date: July 29, 2014 12:20AM

FCPS schools

http://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/nutrition/statistics/index.shtml
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VDoE National School Lunch totals 2013-14 by school FCPS stats.png

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Disturbing ()
Date: July 29, 2014 12:21AM

JustLook Wrote:
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> Posted by: Further Asshole Discoverys... ()
>
> Such crap Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Frm eligibility is about 48k for a family of 4.
>
> 100% of poverty level for a family of four is
> currently $23,850. See if you can figure out what
> 130% (for free meals) and 185% (for reduced-price
> meals) of that amount would be. (HINT: The answers
> are $31,005 and $44,123.) Probably still won't get
> it.

Good God, look at those numbers. Thats what I might expect in Kentucky or Alabama - but Virginia? It looks like most of Virginia (except Northern Virginia, where the numbers are still suspicially high) is living in abject poverty.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: MarkMcW ()
Date: July 29, 2014 01:08AM

congratulations to the following fcps schools & pta's and their community's, you have more than 1/3 of your population defined as factors of poverty percentages for free and reduced lunch:


HYBLA VALLEY ELEMENTARY
LYNBROOK ELEMENTARY
MOUNT VERNON WOODS ELEMENTARY
BUCKNELL ELEMENTARY
GRAHAM ROAD ELEMENTARY
WEYANOKE ELEMENTARY
ALC AT BURKE
ANNANDALE TERRACE ELEMENTARY
CRESTWOOD ELEMENTARY
MOUNT EAGLE ELEMENTARY
DOGWOOD ELEMENTARY
GLEN FOREST ELEMENTARY
GROVETON ELEMENTARY
BAILEYS ELEMENTARY
HUTCHISON ELEMENTARY
WOODLEY HILLS ELEMENTARY
BRADDOCK ELEMENTARY
WESTLAWN ELEMENTARY
POE MIDDLE
PARKLAWN ELEMENTARY
ALC AT PIMMIT
GLASGOW MIDDLE
RIVERSIDE ELEMENTARY
WOODLAWN ELEMENTARY
CAMERON ELEMENTARY
QUANDER ROAD SCHOOL
GARFIELD ELEMENTARY
BREN MAR PARK ELEMENTARY
PINE SPRING ELEMENTARY
WOODBURN ELEMENTARY
WHITMAN MIDDLE
MOUNT VERNON HIGH
WASHINGTON MILL ELEMENTARY
ALC AT MOUNTAIN VIEW
BELVEDERE ELEMENTARY
BEECH TREE ELEMENTARY
STUART HIGH
KEY MIDDLE
FALLS CHURCH HIGH
SLEEPY HOLLOW ELEMENTARY
TIMBER LANE ELEMENTARY
HOLMES MIDDLE
HOLLIN MEADOWS ELEMENTARY
FORESTDALE ELEMENTARY
BURKE SCHOOL
HERNDON ELEMENTARY
ANNANDALE HIGH
LEE HIGH
BROOKFIELD ELEMENTARY
LONDON TOWNE ELEMENTARY
MASON CREST ELEMENTARY
SANDBURG MIDDLE
SARATOGA ELEMENTARY
BRYANT ALTERNATIVE CTR.
CEDAR LANE SCHOOL
GUNSTON ELEMENTARY
JACKSON MIDDLE
LORTON STATION ELEMENTARY
ROSE HILL ELEMENTARY
COATES ELEMENTARY
HERNDON MIDDLE
PROVIDENCE ELEMENTARY
WEST POTOMAC HIGH
CLEARVIEW ELEMENTARY
CENTRE RIDGE ELEMENTARY
DRANESVILLE ELEMENTARY
NORTH SPRINGFIELD ELEMENTARY
HUGHES MIDDLE
COLUMBIA ELEMENTARY
LAKE ANNE ELEMENTARY
FOREST EDGE ELEMENTARY
PULLEY CAREER CENTER
EDISON HIGH
TERRASET ELEMENTARY
CAMELOT ELEMENTARY
MOUNTAIN VIEW ALTERNATIVE HIGH
KEY CENTER
HALLEY ELEMENTARY

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: RESales in Fairfax ()
Date: July 29, 2014 04:12AM

MarkMcW Wrote:
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> congratulations to the following fcps schools &
> pta's and their community's, you have more than
> 1/3 of your population defined as factors of
> poverty percentages for free and reduced lunch:

After looking at the link with the Virginia Department of Education numbers, there's a realtors' point to pay attention to on number of schools by Supervisor district with more than one-third poverty FRM student numbers:


Braddock 2
Dranesville 6
Hunter Mill 5
Lee 12
Mason 19
Mount Vernon 15
Providence 5
Sully 3
Springfield 0

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: CELEBRATE THE DIVERSITY ()
Date: July 29, 2014 04:42AM

Why not just CELEBRATE THE DIVERSITY?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: You guys believe me now ()
Date: July 29, 2014 07:10AM

Inside the beltway AND below Route 7

or East of 95

= Ghetto

I'll just add again as Mr. Moon stated once a school crossed 40% FARMS people are screwed

Welcome to City of Alexandria people where the schools suck because anyone with money has either moved out or sends their kids to private school.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Look at the infestation ()
Date: July 29, 2014 07:13AM

Look at the crap we are all paying for

http://www.zillow.com/va/districts/fairfax-county-public-schools-437835/

Route 1 Blacks
Inside the Beltway Hispanics
Herndon Hispanics

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: NumberPlease? ()
Date: July 29, 2014 08:55AM

Yesterday the phone lines coming into the US Capitol were jammed due to people voicing their disgust with Obumblers amnesty scheme. The story is on Breitbart and Drudge this morning but not a word in the lamestream media.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: RESales in Fairfax ()
Date: July 29, 2014 11:47AM

Hot neighborhoods are always tied to their local school. The values of homes are the same.

The next big factor for home sales in Fairfax is this topic.

Realtors and buyers will focus on these schools.
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VDoE National School Lunch totals 2013-14 by school FCPS stats low FRM.png

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Miss Match ()
Date: July 29, 2014 01:01PM

Strange... These numbers are far higher than census or any other area income figures would indicate.

What could possibly account for the difference?

Apparently Fairfax is NOT one of the top 5 most wealthy counties in the country. Somebody should let Forbes know.

/sarcasm

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: TJ Faxx ()
Date: July 29, 2014 01:49PM

Interesting that the magnet STEM high school, Thomas Jefferson (TJ), has one of the lowest FARM levels in the county. It does not seem like the application process is doing a good job opening the school to those at all socioeconomic levels.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: perfect point ()
Date: July 29, 2014 02:08PM

Intel/smarts directly correlated to income

aka Fairfax County Schools don't do anything for anyone

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: July 29, 2014 02:13PM

RESales in Fairfax Wrote:
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> Hot neighborhoods are always tied to their local
> school. The values of homes are the same.
>
> The next big factor for home sales in Fairfax is
> this topic.
>
> Realtors and buyers will focus on these schools.


You dumb goober fucktard, illegals still pay RE taxes and contribute more than they use. Those numbers you posted are skewed, let me guess you found it on a right wing website? Asshole.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: bs ()
Date: July 29, 2014 02:30PM

thats fucking bullshit

why are you still here you piece of shit

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Tea Party in charge there ()
Date: July 29, 2014 03:07PM

"Those numbers you posted are skewed, let me guess you found it on a right wing website? Asshole."


The Virginia Department of Education is a right wing website?

Who woulda thunk?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: right wing virginia data ()
Date: July 29, 2014 03:10PM

http://doe.virginia.gov/support/nutrition/statistics/index.shtml

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: doh ()
Date: July 29, 2014 04:10PM

right wing virginia data Wrote:
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> http://doe.virginia.gov/support/nutrition/statisti
> cs/index.shtml


Fucking teabaggers.....

Oh, wait.......

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: illegals still pay RE taxes ()
Date: July 29, 2014 04:12PM

Yeah. 13 people living in a slum rental = plenty of tax revenue. Not.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! ()
Date: July 29, 2014 04:57PM

>You dumb goober fucktard, illegals still pay RE taxes and contribute more than they use

Ha Ha Ha ha ha ha ha!! Shit for brains Democrat Hack Capitol Hill staffer thinks they are going to win one for the Oblamer this fall

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Like we are ALL Stupid ..Even the DRONES know this country is in trouble thanks to Oblamer and the DEMs and Their Hacks and the Non-Stop flow of Illegals into this country.

"But But Butt there Future Votes For Democrats..."

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Tax Man ()
Date: July 29, 2014 06:01PM

You guys believe me now Wrote:
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> Welcome to City of Alexandria people where the
> schools suck because anyone with money has either
> moved out or sends their kids to private school.

Parents who send their kids to private schools still pay the same real estate taxes. How dumb are you people?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Ma Bell ()
Date: July 29, 2014 06:07PM

NumberPlease? Wrote:
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> Yesterday the phone lines coming into the US
> Capitol were jammed due to people voicing their
> disgust with Obumblers amnesty scheme. The story
> is on Breitbart and Drudge this morning but not a
> word in the lamestream media.

Only news to the bozos. TEA Party tried a mass call-in. It didn't work.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: uhhm okay? ()
Date: July 29, 2014 06:21PM

Tax Man Wrote:
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> You guys believe me now Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Welcome to City of Alexandria people where the
> > schools suck because anyone with money has
> either
> > moved out or sends their kids to private
> school.
>
> Parents who send their kids to private schools
> still pay the same real estate taxes. How dumb
> are you people?

Did he ever say people who send their kids to private schools don't pay RE taxes?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: SillyKniggits ()
Date: July 29, 2014 06:22PM

Asshole Report #14-0071 Wrote:
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> RESales in Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hot neighborhoods are always tied to their
> local
> > school. The values of homes are the same.
> >
> > The next big factor for home sales in Fairfax
> is
> > this topic.
> >
> > Realtors and buyers will focus on these
> schools.
>
>
> You dumb goober fucktard, illegals still pay RE
> taxes and contribute more than they use. Those
> numbers you posted are skewed, let me guess you
> found it on a right wing website? Asshole.


The Virginia Department of Education's official National School Lunch Program (NSLP) Free and Reduced Price Eligibility Report qualifies as a "right wing website"?
What next? You'll be claiming it's Obama's fault?

Oh wait.


Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
Fetchez la vache!
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Tax Man ()
Date: July 29, 2014 06:37PM

uhhm okay? Wrote:
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> Did he ever say people who send their kids to
> private schools don't pay RE taxes?

By lumping them in with people who move, he did. Are you a native English-speaker, by any chance?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Dude.... ()
Date: July 29, 2014 06:41PM

SillyKniggits Wrote:
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> Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

Learn to distinguish between "Asshole Report #14-0071" et cetera and all these various goober spoofers.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Got It Half Right This Time Goob ()
Date: July 29, 2014 06:55PM

>illegals still pay RE taxes and contribute more than they use

Yes they do pay RE taxes thru their rents, the landlord isnt paying that from the goodness of their hearts. All renters pay RE tax via rent payments.

But >contribute more than they use



NO WAY JOSE!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BeanCounter ()
Date: July 29, 2014 07:52PM

Looking at FCPS school retention rates, 4 of the 5 schools with the highest retention numbers are on the Free and Reduced Meal table in the thread above from the Virginia Dept of Education, above 50% FRM.


Hybla Valley FRM Total 89.32%
Annandale Terrace FRM Total 75.31%
Pine Spring FRM Total 57.12%
Parklawn FRM Total 65.90%



http://www.fcps.edu/it/studentreporting/documents/rets13.pdf
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Class Sizes Matter! ()
Date: July 31, 2014 12:01PM

It does matter whether students are here legally or not because in the end it affects all kids in Fairfax. Kids who don't speak English need lots of intervention with teachers and specialists, more parent liaisons, require more services because their situation, aren't able to participate and need much more free and reduced support which isn't just meals but also everything else like supplies, music, ++ because of high poverty and much more.

The staff costs at certain schools goes way up so other schools and kids end up paying by having their class sizes go up.

This is the latest FCPS has on the page about elementary class sizes.

http://www.fcps.edu/it/studentreporting/escsa.shtml
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Class Sizes Matter! ()
Date: July 31, 2014 12:09PM

Two school averages weren't in the total column above. This is one is fixed.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Waples Mill ()
Date: July 31, 2014 01:40PM

So what can a taxpayer in the Waples Mill ES district conclude. Many homeowners in the Waples Mill district pay very high real estate taxes and in return get the largest elementary school class sizes in the county and a high school (Oakton) that is a ramshackle dump and a grossly inadequate facility for the number of students attending, with a large number of dumpy trailers lined up along Blake Lane. Waples Mill ES class sizes are 50% greater on average than several schools in the county! Why should any incumbents get one vote in the district?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: mrsoleary ()
Date: July 31, 2014 03:25PM

Waples Mill is a Providence school and also has Sully students.

Kathy Smith, Sully, and other incumbents who have been on the FCPS school board forever have absolutely no problem with certain schools having bigger class sizes.

They have been socially engineering schools and boundaries for as long as anyone can remember. It's the 'politically correct' thing to do. I don't know about Patricia Reed's, Providence, take on this issue.

Funds and additional teachers are directed to the schools that are politically correct to support to show those kids get the resources they need. The FCPS school board does more for them because your kids will be fine.

Anyone tired of this approach? Then definitely don't vote for board members who've been in office for a long time or supporting these decisions.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: next steps ()
Date: July 31, 2014 04:23PM

the next logical step in all this is that people in Waples Mill and other high income areas will start taking their kids out of the public school and putting them in private school

Maybe if enough people did that Fairfax County would finally notice something as the test scores would nosedive county wide.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: next next steps ()
Date: July 31, 2014 07:19PM

The problem with just taking our kids out of FCPS is that it doesn't fix it even assuming people could afford it.

Really that's the same assumption the FCPS School Board makes, that just because a family lives in a certain area, zip code or other and that they aren't "FRM" and speak English that means their kids are advantaged or privileged.

To have average class sizes doubled just because kids speak English or labeled free or reduced need or whatever isn't acceptable.



Bucknell Elem 16.8 Mount Vernon
Lynbrook Elem 16.8 Lee
Pine Spring Elem 17.6 Providence
Hybla Valley Elem 17.7 Lee
Dogwood Elem 17.8 Hunter Mill
Graham Road Elem 17.8 Providence
Mount Eagle Elem 17.8 Lee
Annandale Terrace Elem 18.1 Mason
Cameron Elem 18.1 Lee
Crestwood Elem 18.2 Lee
Glen Forest Elem 18.2 Mason
Parklawn Elem 18.2 Mason
Garfield Elem 18.3 Lee
Sleepy Hollow Elem 18.4 Mason
Weyanoke Elem 18.4 Mason
Baileys Elem 18.7 Mason
Bren Mar Park Elem 18.7 Mason
Groveton Elem 18.7 Lee
Forestdale Elem 18.9 Lee
Mount Vernon Woods Elem 18.9 Mount Vernon
Woodlawn Elem 18.9 Mount Vernon
Riverside Elem 19 Mount Vernon
Timber Lane Elem 19.1 Providence
Belvedere Elem 19.2 Mason
Woodburn Elem 19.3 Providence
Hollin Meadows Elem 19.4 Mount Vernon
Little Run Elem 19.5 Braddock
Beech Tree Elem 19.6 Mason
Washington Mill Elem 19.6 Mount Vernon
Terraset Elem 19.7 Hunter Mill
London Towne Elem 19.8 Sully
Braddock Elem 19.9 Braddock
Brookfield Elem 20.1 Sully
Coates Elem 20.1 Dranesville
Hutchison Elem 20.1 Dranesville
North Springfield Elem 20.2 Braddock
Saratoga Elem 20.2 Mount Vernon
Westlawn Elem 20.3 Mason
Woodley Hills Elem 20.4 Mount Vernon
Camelot Elem 20.5 Mason
Olde Creek Elem 20.6 Braddock
Clearview Elem 20.7 Dranesville
Fort Belvoir Elem 20.7 Mount Vernon
Mason Crest Elem 20.9 Mason
Rose Hill Elem 21 Lee
Cunningham Park Elem 21.1 Hunter Mill
Lake Anne Elem 21.1 Hunter Mill
Cub Run Elem 21.2 Sully
Columbia Elem 21.3 Mason
Fairhill Elem 21.3 Providence
Armstrong Elem 21.4 Hunter Mill
Island Creek Elem 21.4 Lee
Poplar Tree Elem 21.4 Sully
Virginia Run Elem 21.5 Sully
Centre Ridge Elem 21.6 Sully
Fairfax Villa Elem 21.7 Braddock
Newington Forest Elem 21.7 Mount Vernon
Ravensworth Elem 21.7 Braddock
Herndon Elem 21.9 Dranesville
Lorton Station Elem 21.9 Mount Vernon
Dranesville Elem 22 Dranesville
Lemon Road Elem 22 Dranesville
Halley Elem 22.1 Mount Vernon
Westgate Elem 22.1 Providence
Belle View Elem 22.2 Mount Vernon
Bonnie Brae Elem 22.2 Braddock
Lane Elem 22.2 Lee
Deer Park Elem 22.3 Sully
Greenbriar East Elem 22.3 Springfield
Gunston Elem 22.3 Mount Vernon
Vienna Elem 22.3 Hunter Mill
Bush Hill Elem 22.4 Lee
Cardinal Forest Elem 22.5 Braddock
Cherry Run Elem 22.5 Springfield
Forest Edge Elem 22.5 Hunter Mill
Freedom Hill Elem 22.5 Providence
Providence Elem 22.5 Fairfax
Eagle View Elem 22.6 Braddock
Fox Mill Elem 22.7 Hunter Mill
Hunt Valley Elem 22.7 Springfield
Kings Park Elem 22.7 Braddock
Laurel Ridge Elem 22.7 Braddock
Rolling Valley Elem 22.7 Springfield
Forestville Elem 22.8 Dranesville
Franconia Elem 22.8 Lee
Sunrise Valley Elem 22.9 Hunter Mill
Daniels Run Elem 23 Fairfax
Fort Hunt Elem 23.1 Mount Vernon
Crossfield Elem 23.2 Hunter Mill
Powell Elem 23.2 Sully
Wakefield Forest Elem 23.2 Braddock
Aldrin Elem 23.3 Hunter Mill
Fairview Elem 23.3 Braddock
Mosby Woods Elem 23.4 Providence
Sherman Elem 23.4 Dranesville
Springfield Estates Elem23.4 Lee
West Springfield Elem 23.4 Springfield
Bull Run Elem 23.5 Sully
Kings Glen Elem 23.5 Braddock
Laurel Hill Elem 23.6 Mount Vernon
Marshall Road Elem 23.6 Hunter Mill
Clermont Elem 23.7 Lee
Navy Elem 23.7 Sully
Oak View Elem 23.7 Braddock
Silverbrook Elem 23.8 Springfield
Centreville Elem 23.9 Sully
McNair Elem 24 Hunter Mill
Oakton Elem 24 Providence
Westbriar Elem 24 Hunter Mill
Great Falls Elem 24.1 Dranesville
Hayfield Elem 24.1 Lee
Terra-Centre Elem 24.1 Braddock
Louise Archer Elem 24.2 Hunter Mill
Floris Elem 24.2 Hunter Mill
Haycock Elem 24.2 Dranesville
Mantua Elem 24.2 Providence
Union Mill Elem 24.2 Springfield
Willow Springs Elem 24.2 Springfield
Chesterbrook Elem 24.3 Dranesville
Orange Hunt Elem 24.3 Springfield
Keene Mill Elem 24.4 Springfield
Oak Hill Elem 24.4 Sully
Colvin Run Elem 24.5 Dranesville
White Oaks Elem 24.5 Springfield
Lees Corner Elem 24.6 Sully
Waynewood Elem 24.6 Mount Vernon
Sangster Elem 24.8 Springfield
Shrevewood Elem 24.8 Providence
Spring Hill Elem 25 Dranesville
Greenbriar West Elem 25.1 Springfield
Kent Gardens Elem 25.1 Dranesville
Stenwood Elem 25.1 Providence
Churchill Road Elem 25.2 Dranesville
Canterbury Woods Elem 25.3 Braddock
Hunters Woods Elem 25.3 Hunter Mill
Flint Hill Elem 25.4 Hunter Mill
Stratford Landing Elem 25.6 Mount Vernon
Wolftrap Elem 25.7 Hunter Mill
Waples Mill Elem 25.8 Providence

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: WMES ()
Date: July 31, 2014 09:36PM

Many Waples Mill district families do send their kids to private school.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 80/20 ()
Date: July 31, 2014 11:14PM

Based on the old 80/20 rule, the 20% of schools with the largest classrooms are skewed into a few FCPS districts. Lee & Mason are off scot free with no schools in the most crowded top 20%.


In other words, Lee & Mason get the most $ + resources. Braddock, Mount Vernon & Sully get the next.


Hunter Mill, Springfield & Sully get the shaft.


Braddock: 1

Dranesville: 6

Hunter Mill: 5

Lee: 0

Mason: 0

Mount Vernon: 2

Providence: 4

Springfield: 7

Sully: 2



The 20% of schools which have highest classroom sizes =

Waples Mill
Wolftrap
Stratford Landing
Flint Hill
Canterbury Woods
Hunters Woods
Churchill Road
Kent Gardens
Stenwood
Greenbriar West
Spring Hill
Shrevewood
Sangster
Waynewood
Lees Corner
Colvin Run
White Oaks
Keene Mill
Oak Hill
Chesterbrook
Orange Hunt
Haycock
Louise Archer
Floris
Mantua
Union Mill
Willow Springs

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: But The Big Questions ()
Date: July 31, 2014 11:36PM

Where does the illegal immigration End?? Wheres the breaking point? What will happen to the USA? What is the future of native born American children?


Tell Us !

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: mooov-over ()
Date: July 31, 2014 11:45PM

"Where does the illegal immigration End?? Wheres the breaking point? What will happen to the USA? What is the future of native born American children?


Tell Us !"


Tax cows . . . and they will be milked hard

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Big Answers ()
Date: August 01, 2014 01:02AM

But The Big Questions Wrote:
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> Where does the illegal immigration End?? Wheres
> the breaking point? What will happen to the USA?
> What is the future of native born American
> children?
>
>
> Tell Us !

Simple simple simple
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: fuck illegals!! ()
Date: August 01, 2014 01:05AM

Big Answers Wrote:
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> But The Big Questions Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does the illegal immigration End?? Wheres
> > the breaking point? What will happen to the
> USA?
> > What is the future of native born American
> > children?
> >
> >
> > Tell Us !
>
> Simple simple simple


All good, but you can let true Mexicans in. They aren't bad, which is unfortunately why you won't see many Mexicans around this area. If you do see them, they have a better education and better job than any garbage Honduran, Guati, or Salvi spic.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: craycray ()
Date: August 01, 2014 01:13AM

Big Answers Wrote:
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> But The Big Questions Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where does the illegal immigration End??
> >
> >
> Simple simple simple


ROFL!!!!!!

Imitation is sincerest form of flattery.

Build This HERE, The Sequel
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Jose can you see ()
Date: August 01, 2014 11:42PM

Jose can you see Wrote:
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> The threads and posts on FCPS over the last few
> days are really enlightening.
>
> The 14 schools which are under warning with their
> accreditation status have some of the highest free
> & reduced meal student numbers and, worse, the
> lowest classroom sizes.
>
> FCPS is spending buckets and buckets of money on
> these schools and it DOES NOT matter.
>
> The schools are still failing even with class
> sizes of 20, 18 or even 16 students. It doesn't
> matter how much money or how many additional
> teachers are put in those schools, it just pumps
> money to kids at the bottom with no impact.

cross post, but worth it
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: TheFutureIsHere ()
Date: August 02, 2014 12:54AM

In Fairfax and FCPS of all places. The illegals are crushing the classrooms and budget just like in California. The word is out now for the free ride for education and all the additional services available here. How did we get here?


It isn't just because of the people who have been on the FCPS board for a long time.


Only a few percent of Fairfax voted for these people and when candidates like this get elected, Fairfax gets what it asked for.


Pay some damn attention next time.



>Ted Velkoff stated, “I unequivocally support the current FCPS staffing >formula that targets extra resources to schools and populations in >greatest need.”


>Ryan McElveen, “The idea that students in an economically disadvantaged >part of the county receive increasing school funding is critical to >narrowing the achievement gap."




http://www.leedems.org/2011/10/21/dem-school-board-candidates-unanimously-support-needs-based-funding/

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: look at this ()
Date: August 02, 2014 06:58PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzOwe_n68ss

Did you know that if these kids are "refugees" they get benefits that your normal "undocumented" does not get?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: johnny ringo ()
Date: August 02, 2014 08:05PM

We need to welcome all of the benefits that diversidad brings to Fairfax County.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Sanctuary? ()
Date: August 04, 2014 02:11AM

How we got here:

Sharon Bulova's "acknowledgement of the contributions of Fairfax County’s immigrant community, and her refusal to adopt any measure that would target it beyond what’s already federally stipulated, have given the county the reputation of a sanctuary for immigrants."

Fundamentally changing America. And Fairfax County.

http://asu.news21.com/sanctuary-cities-fairfax-county-va/

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Narrowing the Achievement GAP ()
Date: August 04, 2014 07:33AM

All those stupid fucking liberal FCPS people bullshitting on about the achievement gap. Look dumb asses, you have to have vocational education re-instituted because little fucking Jose aint going to learn English well enough to either go to college or make it there.

So dumbnutses, go back to creating vocational schools instead of college prep high schools.

There, I saved you millions of dollars in studying the problem...

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Should Have Never Got Rid Of ()
Date: August 04, 2014 10:16AM

Vocational classes. But stupid starry eyed parents thought youg Billy would be a computer superstar so hundreds of thousands of young people ended up with bullshit for a eduacation in FCPS instead of a trade .

And with out American tradespeople here come Jose to take their place.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: BS detection kit ()
Date: August 20, 2014 02:04PM

More Asshole Discoverys Wrote:
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> wrong on so many levels Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Bottom line. Illegals cost more money than what
> they give back.
>
> No, they don't. They contribute much more than
> you think they do, and they draw far fewer public
> services than you think they do. There isn't much
> serious debate about this anymore. Illegals are a
> net plus to the economy.
>
> Gotta go. Working to put some influence on
> Capitol Hill types in the club at Nats Park today.
> You have a nice day too.


Capitol Hill types at Nats Park on A Sunday on a week where last votes were at 1 on Thursday and no votes again until Tuesday? Were you wowing the interns and Staff Asses? Nobody with any influence was around, dipshit. I bet you think you can impress with them at a game tonight, too. Your either the world's worst influence peddler or completely full of shit. Take your pick.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Asshole was already busted ()
Date: August 20, 2014 02:27PM

claiming to be rubbing shoulders @ Nats park - but dipshit forget to look at the schedule first...

either that, or it was rubbing itself.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: McNUgget ()
Date: August 23, 2014 07:51AM

Get Ready Culpeper Wrote:
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> One good thing for the cocksucking bed wetter
> liberals who post about their love of illegal
> immigration in Fairfux, is that all the indigent
> Central Americans will soon be heading to Culpeper
> because of the cost of living here, or
> Harrisonburg for a job in the fine poultry
> industries... Cheap Chicken liberal fuck heads!!!


ENjoy your chicken nugget!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: dsfghjkl; ()
Date: August 23, 2014 08:36AM

Waples Mill Wrote:
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> So what can a taxpayer in the Waples Mill ES
> district conclude. Many homeowners in the Waples
> Mill district pay very high real estate taxes and
> in return get the largest elementary school class
> sizes in the county and a high school (Oakton)
> that is a ramshackle dump and a grossly inadequate
> facility for the number of students attending,
> with a large number of dumpy trailers lined up
> along Blake Lane. Waples Mill ES class sizes are
> 50% greater on average than several schools in the
> county! Why should any incumbents get one vote in
> the district?


Oakton High might be a ramshackle dump but both of my kids graduated with a year of college under their belts and did very well in college. Looks aren't everything.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ^ ()
Date: August 25, 2016 05:33AM

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Phil a peeno. ()
Date: March 04, 2018 04:23AM

I love undocumented Americans!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: edjct ()
Date: March 04, 2018 09:16AM

un-announced vacation in USA over

deport them

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: economic analyst ()
Date: March 05, 2018 04:37PM

Phil a peeno. Wrote:
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> I love undocumented Americans!


These kids grow up to be tax paying citizens in most cases, they are good for our economy.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Salamut for what ()
Date: March 05, 2018 10:34PM

You don't get it. Tax payer or not. The more anchor babies the more will come illegally to do the same.

Numbersusa dot com

The process can't continue. It is harmful to the US.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: sofunnyitsnot ()
Date: March 05, 2018 10:43PM

economic analyst Wrote:
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> Phil a peeno. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I love undocumented Americans!
>
>
> These kids grow up to be tax paying citizens in
> most cases, they are good for our economy.


I would love for one of you nigger loving libtards to actually live in a shit area aka ANY apartment in Fairfax.

1 bedroom, 3 adults, 2 kids. 2 bedroom, 3-4 adults, 2-4 kids. 3 bedroom 3-5 adults 4 kids.

Do you even know what is going on in this area? Who even knows what kind of pedophile shit is going on within these 1-2 mattress living rooms...Kids dressed like whores waiting to get knocked up for more money. IT'S DISGUSTING!!!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Voter 65 ()
Date: March 06, 2018 09:49AM

The undocumented Americans need to be given the right to vote. That will make things better.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: FAILED OFF THE CHARTS ()
Date: March 06, 2018 11:25AM

Voter 65 Wrote:
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> The undocumented Americans need to be given the
> right to vote. That will make things better.


Better for their agenda, which is not better for the US.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: DemsWantIllegalstoVote ()
Date: March 06, 2018 11:32AM

Pluck those chickens! You don't need no education!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hot dog vendor ()
Date: March 07, 2018 11:32AM

We need more undocumented Americans not fewer.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Fourth of July ()
Date: March 07, 2018 11:36AM

hot dog vendor Wrote:
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> We need more undocumented Americans not fewer.


We need fewer people like you not more.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: George fucking Washington ()
Date: March 08, 2018 10:11AM

I like how they have the school lunch menu in Spanish and English. It makes the illegal kids feel right at home.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Taco glutton ()
Date: March 08, 2018 10:18AM

George fucking Washington Wrote:
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> I like how they have the school lunch menu in
> Spanish and English. It makes the illegal kids
> feel right at home

Do they serve pintos and rice?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: polltaker ()
Date: March 10, 2018 07:14AM

hot dog vendor Wrote:
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> We need more undocumented Americans not fewer.


We get more and more of them every year. I guess we are doing great huh?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: ALL illegals OUT ()
Date: March 10, 2018 08:05AM

ALL illegals need to GET OUT NOW!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: hernan cortez ()
Date: March 10, 2018 08:09AM

Another American dead, thanks to a drunk illegal who crashed into the back of his truck in Denver.
The liberals in Denver, a sanctuary city, let him post 25,000 bond so he's out on the streets again!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Juan Lake ()
Date: March 10, 2018 08:12AM

ALL illegals OUT Wrote:
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> ALL illegals need to GET OUT NOW!


Why don you try and make us? You too much of a coward thats is why!

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: fred hayward ()
Date: March 10, 2018 08:20AM

Why don't you follow the law?
Why don't you respect a country's laws?

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Juan Lake ()
Date: March 10, 2018 08:43AM

fred hayward Wrote:
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> Why don't you follow the law?
> Why don't you respect a country's laws?


Why don you make police enforce law? Even the police know hispanic people are good for this country. All the white people give us money all the time. White people too lazy to work. We love work and love all the money too.
Couple years ago I get stopped by Herndon police an they see my green card expired. They tell me to renew it soon an let me go. I never renew it because I no need it.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: Springfield girl ()
Date: March 10, 2018 09:57AM

how can you say white people are too lazy? I'm a white lady and I work 9 hours a day. Almost all my friends, most of whom are white,also work hard.
Please stop with the racism! You're not even supposed to be in this country and you're on here making racist comments.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: 80’s it was muzzies ()
Date: March 10, 2018 10:59AM

When I was in high school in ffx co,graduated in 90, it was afghani refugees.
Remember how there were afghani gangs at Annandale high school?
Because those fucks were sooo ingrained with mindless drivel from the Koran, they were hyper violent.
The Muslim mentality that encourages violence against “infidels”

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Flooding Fairfax Classrooms
Posted by: father patrick ()
Date: March 10, 2018 11:31AM

80’s it was muzzies Wrote:
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> When I was in high school in ffx co,graduated in
> 90, it was afghani refugees.
> Remember how there were afghani gangs at Annandale
> high school?
> Because those fucks were sooo ingrained with
> mindless drivel from the Koran, they were hyper
> violent.
> The Muslim mentality that encourages violence
> against “infidels”


Still not half as violent as Christians and their bible.

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