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Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: War on Deer pt 2 ()
Date: July 03, 2014 09:37AM

Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane
Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
http://reston.patch.com/groups/around-town/p/reston-association-oks-deer-hunt-on-sourwood-lane

The Reston Association Board of Directors voted last week to approve the deer-hunting request by owners of 11624, 11626 and 11628 Sourwood Lane in Reston, subject to the approval of the association’s legal counsel to grant permission to bow hunt through the 2016-2017 urban archery season.

The hunt will be subject to the conditions outlined in Use & Maintenance Standards Resolution 12, waiving the condition delineated in Section 3.a.iii of the Resolution that the proposed location of the hunter be held at least 75 yards away from any street.

During its Sept. 25, 2014 meeting, the board will consider regional and local deer management plans and how they relate to Reston.
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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: j9TJF ()
Date: July 03, 2014 09:42AM

Deer Hunt...for grazing??! Shame on these people

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: mcWJe ()
Date: July 03, 2014 11:27AM

"Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor."

WTF?!?

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: errol flynn ()
Date: July 03, 2014 11:35AM

Is this guy available?
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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: Gunlover ()
Date: July 03, 2014 01:24PM

Another brilliant idea that will fail.

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: Gunlover ()
Date: July 03, 2014 01:59PM

Wait this they see deer with arrows in them walking around. Incompetent bow hunters and arrow are not a quick kill.

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: 3MGbu ()
Date: July 04, 2014 09:39PM

hunting is a sport people pay buttloads of money they don't have to enjoy

used to be during hunting season the AFLCIO was no where to be found

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I'M NOT PAYING FOR YOUR FUCKING HOBBY

nor for you to hunt locally when i can't

fuck off

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: WTHolyF ()
Date: July 05, 2014 12:37AM

@Gunlover: you fucking lying cunt: you are just a fucking libtard, not a gun lover! The deer need to be controlled and bow hunting is the most reasonable solution for urban areas. You posted a bunch of fucking pictures that are the complete exception to the rule for controlled archery hunts!

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: Great Ideas! ()
Date: July 07, 2014 05:17AM

Expand this to include the nigs and beaners and Reston will be a great place to live!

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: Gunlover ()
Date: July 07, 2014 07:30AM

WTHolyF Wrote:
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> @Gunlover: you fucking lying cunt: you are just a
> fucking libtard, not a gun lover! The deer need to
> be controlled and bow hunting is the most
> reasonable solution for urban areas. You posted a
> bunch of fucking pictures that are the complete
> exception to the rule for controlled archery
> hunts!


http://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/hunting/2007/09/bowhunting-tale-shot


Bowhunting: Tale of the Shot




Where to shoot a whitetail and what to do if your arrow misses the mark.

Your goal is to zip an arrow through a buck's lungs and possibly his heart, too. But let's not duck reality here. Upon hearing the swish of even the quietest bowstring, many whitetails come unglued, dropping their bodies and whirling away in one spectacular motion. A perfectly aimed arrow might clip a
tree limb and veer offline. Squinting through the peep at a behemoth's
rack, you might freak and yank your release's trigger. All sorts of things can cause a "gimme" shot to go awry.

Sail an arrow cleanly over or under a deer and that's okay. But strike a deer in any of the four anatomical zones we've outlined here and it's your duty to work long and hard to recover that animal. Slack off in this area and you ought to have your archery license revoked. Here's how to read the shot.


Zone 1: No Man's Land


Hit: Many people aim too high on deer. I believe it's because from a tree stand 18 to 20 feet in the air, a buck looks farther away than he really is. If you aim high and pull the shot a few inches high, your arrow will hit in "no man's land." Sometimes this works out and you break the spine or cut the main artery that runs down a deer's back. More often you'll miss those vitals and strike only soft tissue.



Reaction: If the arrow strikes a deer's spine, the deer will hit the ground. On rare occasions it will thrash, recover and lunge off, so put another arrow into it if you can. If you miss the spine and aorta and hit only meat, the deer might run or simply jump and walk off.



Clues: Your buck will drop on the spot if you got lucky and spined him. There will be plenty of bright blood and long brown back hair if your arrow severed an artery. If you find a shaft smeared only with fat and flesh, then you didn't hit his vitals.



Trail pointers: A deer with a severed aorta will not go far, maybe as little as 60 yards; there will be a good amount of blood. Wait a half hour or so before trailing. Recovery will be 100 percent on spine and artery hits. When an arrow cuts flesh only, you'll find a small to moderate amount of blood at the point of impact, and it will peter off down the trail. It makes no difference how long you wait to start trailing the deer-you won't find that buck.




Zone 2: Too Far Back


Hit: If your arrow hits the very front of this zone it might clip the back of the lungs or hit the liver, especially if the deer is severely quartering away. A hit farther back will get only guts.



Reaction: Typically, a buck drops his hind end, bolts 75 yards or so and stops, sometimes humped in the middle. He will either lie down or walk off slowly. Generally, a paunch-shot deer will go no more than 200 to 250 yards before it beds for the first time.



Clues: If your arrow got liver, you'll find a lot of dark blood and brown hair on the ground. An arrow that passes through a paunch will stink and be covered with slimy green matter, brown or white belly hair and traces of watery blood. You'll find stomach or intestinal contents and fragments in the hit area and along the escape path.



Trail pointers: A deer shot through the liver won't go far. Wait two hours, follow the dark spoor and you'll find your game. Don't trail a deer hit in the paunch for at least 8 to 10 hours. It's better to wait 12 hours to let an animal bed a few times, stiffen and finally expire.


Zone 3: Too Much Shoulder


Hit: If you try to sneak an arrow too tight behind a buck's front leg, you might plant it a few inches too far forward into his bony, meaty shoulder. To avoid this poor hit, aim a few inches behind the shoulder and shoot for the biggest part of the lungs. They extend almost halfway back on a whitetail.



Reaction: A buck will run off low in the front end and off to one side. He'll appear ready to stumblle any minute but will usually recover and keep going.



Clues: A high shoulder hit often
results in poor arrow penetration. A carbon arrow might fall out as a deer bolts (look for meat and brown hair on the broadhead and some blood on the bottom of the arrow). An aluminum shaft might snap off (look for the top of it within 100 yards of where the deer ran). Either way, there won't be a lot of blood to begin with, and the trail will peter out quickly. Every now and then you'll get lucky: The arrow will zip under the scapula and clip the front of the lungs. If you hit a deer low in the brisket you'll find a lot of bright blood. Your arrow might have brown or white hair on it, along with meat and fat.



Trail pointers: If you hit low in this zone, wait at least an hour before looking. If you got lucky and cut major veins or an artery, you might find the buck quickly. But many deer survive flesh wounds. Wait a while longer
before looking for a whitetail shot high in the shoulder. If your arrow penetrated enough to cut the front of the lungs, the buck will die. If it went in a few inches and backed out or broke off, you're not going to find that deer. The good news is he will probably recover.




Zone 4: Bull's Eye!


Hit: Depending on whether a buck is broadside or
quartering away, your arrow could pierce both lungs and maybe his heart, or just one lung and maybe the heart.



Reaction: A buck kicks his hind legs, takes off like a shot and runs until he dies.



Clues: An arrow will often zip completely through an
animal that is standing broadside. When you retrieve your arrow, it should be covered from broadhead to nock with bright blood with some bubbles. If the arrow is not red from end to end it might have clipped only one lung. Any hair found on the ground or the shaft will be brown. If,on a quartering-away deer, the arrow catches a lot of shoulder bone and muscle, it won't penetrate fully. An aluminum shaft might snap as the animal bolts; look for part of it along the blood trail.



Trail pointers: A double-lunged buck is dead on his hooves. Check your arrow if you can find it, and then pick up the trail of red spray and go get him. But say you trail 100 yards and don't find your game; stop and back out. Chances are your arrow cut and collapsed only one lung. Wait at least four hours or come back the next morning. You should recover your deer within 200 to 300 yards of where you stopped.
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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: Gunlover ()
Date: July 07, 2014 07:37AM

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Arrow Head

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: July 07, 2014 07:47AM

Expand it to include libs and I'll do it for free!

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: Gunlover ()
Date: July 07, 2014 08:00AM

http://www.chuckhawks.com/killing_power_bullet_arrow.htm





Killing Power: Bullets and Arrows



The concept of impact energy and "killing power" are pervasive throughout the literature and come up in just about every discussion on cartridges. The size of the game animal also factors heavily in cartridge choice. People routinely shoot and kill deer (for instance) with a 400 grain arrow and a "muzzle velocity" as the arrow leaves the bow in the low 200 fps range. Why is it that a rifle with 600 ft. lbs. of energy downrange is considered too weak, while in the archery world, knockdown is not even discussed and the only issue is accurately hitting the lungs?


That was the question posed to me and it is a reasonable one. Understand up front that I am not an archer, I am only a shooter. However, it is my understanding that arrows kill by cutting blood vessels, like a knife or sword thrust, only at longer range.

Arrows are very long and skinny and have terrific sectional density to aid penetration. They are far better than any bullet in that regard. It takes much more energy to power a typical hunting bullet, given its much lower SD than an arrow, through flesh and bone. (Bullets work by brute force.)

The bigger and stronger the animal, the more bullet energy is required on target and the "tougher" (less expansion with higher weight retention) the bullet must be to ensure adequate penetration. The skin of what we call thick-skinned game can literally be inches thick and the shoulder of a bison or grizzly bear is a heck of a lot larger and harder to break than the shoulder of a whitetail deer.

After impact, bullets also cause severe bleeding, but have a much wider wound track. The permanent and temporary wound cavities (note the high speed photos of bullets hitting gelatin blocks) destroy or damage a substantial amount of tissue on their way through the animal. This introduces other wound mechanisms, such as shock to the nervous system and damage to, crushing of, or even cessation of operation of vital organs not directly touched by the bullet.

It is not unusual for a CXP2 class animal hit with fast-expanding bullet to fall dead on the spot, with "four feet in the air." A powerful bullet with sufficient kinetic energy can stop or turn the charge of an elephant or lion. I bet those sorts of results are very uncommon when an animal is hit by an arrow. Shoot an alert, angry and dangerous animal with an arrow and my guess is that you had better arrange to stay out of reach until he bleeds out.

The trauma (in addition to simple blood loss) caused by a bullet's impact is what introduces "stopping power" (a term used in reference to self-defense firearms), or "killing power" (usually used in reference to hunting rifles) into the equation. This gives firearms a big advantage over arrows in life or death situations and also helps to deliver quick kills to game animals, which should be the goal of every hunter. I don't want my deer to suffer fear and pain for one second longer than necessary, so I always try to use an adequate firearm for the job at hand, one that can cause an almost immediately fatal injury.




Shoot an alert, angry and dangerous animal with an arrow and my guess is that you had better arrange to stay out of reach until he bleeds out.

Hope the deer not in your backyard all pissed off.

Never Run Out of Ammo

Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People

Them or You

The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/07/2014 08:00AM by Gunlover.

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: Oily Bowhunk ()
Date: July 07, 2014 10:33AM


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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: huChF ()
Date: July 07, 2014 11:10AM

Is the deer problem really that bad in Reston? Haven't heard of any car accidents with them, just homeowners reporting them grazing on their property.

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: History 101 for dummies ()
Date: October 19, 2014 10:07AM

Gunlover Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.chuckhawks.com/killing_power_bullet_arr
> ow.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> Killing Power: Bullets and Arrows
>
>
>
> The concept of impact energy and "killing power"
> are pervasive throughout the literature and come
> up in just about every discussion on cartridges.
> The size of the game animal also factors heavily
> in cartridge choice. People routinely shoot and
> kill deer (for instance) with a 400 grain arrow
> and a "muzzle velocity" as the arrow leaves the
> bow in the low 200 fps range. Why is it that a
> rifle with 600 ft. lbs. of energy downrange is
> considered too weak, while in the archery world,
> knockdown is not even discussed and the only issue
> is accurately hitting the lungs?
>
>
> That was the question posed to me and it is a
> reasonable one. Understand up front that I am not
> an archer, I am only a shooter. However, it is my
> understanding that arrows kill by cutting blood
> vessels, like a knife or sword thrust, only at
> longer range.
>
> Arrows are very long and skinny and have terrific
> sectional density to aid penetration. They are far
> better than any bullet in that regard. It takes
> much more energy to power a typical hunting
> bullet, given its much lower SD than an arrow,
> through flesh and bone. (Bullets work by brute
> force.)
>
> The bigger and stronger the animal, the more
> bullet energy is required on target and the
> "tougher" (less expansion with higher weight
> retention) the bullet must be to ensure adequate
> penetration. The skin of what we call
> thick-skinned game can literally be inches thick
> and the shoulder of a bison or grizzly bear is a
> heck of a lot larger and harder to break than the
> shoulder of a whitetail deer.
>
> After impact, bullets also cause severe bleeding,
> but have a much wider wound track. The permanent
> and temporary wound cavities (note the high speed
> photos of bullets hitting gelatin blocks) destroy
> or damage a substantial amount of tissue on their
> way through the animal. This introduces other
> wound mechanisms, such as shock to the nervous
> system and damage to, crushing of, or even
> cessation of operation of vital organs not
> directly touched by the bullet.
>
> It is not unusual for a CXP2 class animal hit with
> fast-expanding bullet to fall dead on the spot,
> with "four feet in the air." A powerful bullet
> with sufficient kinetic energy can stop or turn
> the charge of an elephant or lion. I bet those
> sorts of results are very uncommon when an animal
> is hit by an arrow. Shoot an alert, angry and
> dangerous animal with an arrow and my guess is
> that you had better arrange to stay out of reach
> until he bleeds out.
>
> The trauma (in addition to simple blood loss)
> caused by a bullet's impact is what introduces
> "stopping power" (a term used in reference to
> self-defense firearms), or "killing power"
> (usually used in reference to hunting rifles) into
> the equation. This gives firearms a big advantage
> over arrows in life or death situations and also
> helps to deliver quick kills to game animals,
> which should be the goal of every hunter. I don't
> want my deer to suffer fear and pain for one
> second longer than necessary, so I always try to
> use an adequate firearm for the job at hand, one
> that can cause an almost immediately fatal
> injury.
>
>
>
>
> Shoot an alert, angry and dangerous animal with an
> arrow and my guess is that you had better arrange
> to stay out of reach until he bleeds out.
>
> Hope the deer not in your backyard all pissed off.


Civilization have been hunting with crude bows and arrows longer than firearms, Mr. Expert Gunlover.

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Re: Reston Association OKs Deer Hunt on Sourwood Lane; Residents must hire bow-hunting contractor.
Posted by: She's No Maid Marion ()
Date: October 19, 2014 10:45AM

A contractor has been found to do the job. Experienced as a bow hunter, she uses her own brand of beauty to lure deer close before shooting them dead.
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