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Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Why isn't the law being enforced ()
Date: July 03, 2014 07:06AM

During the Fairfax County Board meeting yesterday, Penny Gross asked the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County. This is very disturbing! Why would the county want to encourage housing these illegals here?

***How is it that if I or any citizen breaks the law we get arrested and go to jail, yet both our elected and non-elected leadership and lawmakers simply ignore laws/break laws without any kind of consequence?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Interesting news ()
Date: July 03, 2014 07:17AM

This is what would happen if residents in the area found out that the Feds were trying to spread these illegal immigrants around the area. Truly they are flaunting the law...!


Protests turn back buses carrying illegal immigrant children
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/02/protests-force-buses-carrying-illegal-immigrant-children-to-be-rerouted/

Homeland Security buses carrying illegal immigrant children and families were rerouted Tuesday to a facility in San Diego after American flag-waving protesters blocked the group from reaching a suburban processing center.

The standoff in Murrieta came after Mayor Alan Long urged residents to complain to elected officials about the plan to transfer the Central American illegal immigrants to California to ease overcrowding of facilities along the Texas-Mexico border.

Many protesters held U.S. flags, while others held signs reading "stop illegal immigration," and "illegals out!"

"We can't start taking care of others if we can't take care of our own," protester Nancy Greyson, 60, of Murrieta, told the Desert Sun newspaper.

Many of the immigrants were detained while fleeing violence and extortion from gangs in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras.

After the buses were blocked, federal authorities rerouted the vehicles to a freeway and then to a customs and border facility in San Diego within view of the Mexico border.

The three buses were trailed by a half-dozen news crews during the two-hour trip. People near the San Diego facility were surprised by the caravan.

Juan Silva, 27, a welder in Chula Vista, said he thought officials were transporting drug traffickers. Then he heard the buses were carrying illegal immigrant families.

"I don't think people in that town should be against little kids," he said about the protesters in Murrieta. "We're not talking about rapists. We're talking about human beings. How would they feel if it was their kids?"

After the illegal immigrants are processed, Immigration and Customs Enforcement will decide who can be released while awaiting deportation proceedings.

Earlier in the day, a chartered plane landed in San Diego with 136 migrants on board, according to a federal Department of Homeland Security official who was not authorized to be named when speaking on the issue.

It was the first flight planned for California under the federal government's effort to ease the crunch in the Rio Grande Valley and deal with the flood of Central American children and families fleeing to the United States.

The government is also planning to fly illegal immigrants to Texas cities and another site in California, and it has already taken some migrants to Arizona.

More than 52,000 unaccompanied children have been detained after crossing the Texas-Mexico border since October in what President Obama has called a humanitarian crisis. Many of the illegal immigrants are under the impression that they will receive leniency from U.S. authorities.

Another flight was expected to take 140 migrants to a facility in El Centro, California, on Wednesday, said Lombardo Amaya, president of the El Centro chapter of the Border Patrol union. The Border Patrol would not confirm that arrival date.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: File Under D ()
Date: July 03, 2014 07:19AM

Duh - she's working for her constituency. Dems are elected by illegals, felons, leeches and America-haters. Why wouldn't she want more of them to come here?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: tKjEL ()
Date: July 03, 2014 08:34AM

File Under D Wrote:
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> Duh - she's working for her constituency. Dems
> are elected by illegals, felons, leeches and
> America-haters. Why wouldn't she want more of
> them to come here?

This is why they are so opposed to the new voter ID process.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Sadly ()
Date: July 03, 2014 08:43AM

Charity starts with your own. These children did not get this far by themselves. There are those who have talked with them and they said their own countries escorted them then Mexico escorted them the rest of the way

They did not come alone, they have older children with them and we know now that they were told that our borders were wide open. Come and they get food, housing, medical everything even our own do not get.

Obama did this, Obama wanted this, Obama and his momma need to be deported.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: El Puerco ()
Date: July 03, 2014 01:40PM

Her district includes Baileys X Roads and Culmore. More fraudulent votes for her.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: L4CxX ()
Date: July 03, 2014 01:45PM

El Puerco Wrote:
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> Her district includes Baileys X Roads and Culmore.
> More fraudulent votes for her.

Does anyone know if the County executive agreed to look into this?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Occam's Razor ()
Date: July 03, 2014 01:45PM

Because she's a libtard.

It really is that simple.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Sharoom Bullover ()
Date: July 03, 2014 01:52PM

Why isn't the law being enforced Wrote:
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> During the Fairfax County Board meeting yesterday,
> Penny Gross asked the County Executive to look
> into planning for the unaccompained illegals
> within Fairfax County. This is very disturbing!
> Why would the county want to encourage housing
> these illegals here?

So we'll have another excuse to raise taxes that's why. Dig deep you fucking peasants and approve all new taxes. Don't ask questions, just DO IT!!

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: 1,2,3,dah ()
Date: July 03, 2014 02:00PM

Because Fairfax county is a Sanctuary city and we can never have enough "Diversity", just not at my house!

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Answerer ()
Date: July 03, 2014 02:10PM

Because Gerry Connolly runs this town. Obama and Pelosi have painted themselves and the country into a corner. Now they need their minions to bail them out. Gerry is always happy to ingratiate himself.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Be There ()
Date: July 04, 2014 12:45AM

Why isn't the law being enforced Wrote:
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> During the Fairfax County Board meeting yesterday,
> Penny Gross asked the County Executive to look
> into planning for the unaccompained illegals
> within Fairfax County. This is very disturbing!
> Why would the county want to encourage housing
> these illegals here?

Penny is the only Supervisor with the balls to plan for the inevitable. Of course Gerry Connolly and John Foust are behind it too, but they need to be off the record or Pat Herrity will make a big deal of it.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: easyABC123 ()
Date: July 04, 2014 03:33AM

Interesting news Wrote:
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> This is what would happen if residents in the area
> found out that the Feds were trying to spread
> these illegal immigrants around the area. Truly
> they are flaunting the law...!
>
>
> Protests turn back buses carrying illegal
> immigrant children
> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/02/protests-for
> ce-buses-carrying-illegal-immigrant-children-to-be
> -rerouted/
>
> Homeland Security buses carrying illegal immigrant
> children and families were rerouted Tuesday to a
> facility in San Diego after American flag-waving
> protesters blocked the group from reaching a
> suburban processing center.
>
> The standoff in Murrieta came after Mayor Alan
> Long urged residents to complain to elected
> officials about the plan to transfer the Central
> American illegal immigrants to California to ease
> overcrowding of facilities along the Texas-Mexico
> border.
>
> Many protesters held U.S. flags, while others held
> signs reading "stop illegal immigration," and
> "illegals out!"
>
> "We can't start taking care of others if we can't
> take care of our own," protester Nancy Greyson,
> 60, of Murrieta, told the Desert Sun newspaper.
>
> Many of the immigrants were detained while fleeing
> violence and extortion from gangs in Guatemala, El
> Salvador and Honduras.
>
> After the buses were blocked, federal authorities
> rerouted the vehicles to a freeway and then to a
> customs and border facility in San Diego within
> view of the Mexico border.
>
> The three buses were trailed by a half-dozen news
> crews during the two-hour trip. People near the
> San Diego facility were surprised by the caravan.
>
> Juan Silva, 27, a welder in Chula Vista, said he
> thought officials were transporting drug
> traffickers. Then he heard the buses were carrying
> illegal immigrant families.
>
> "I don't think people in that town should be
> against little kids," he said about the protesters
> in Murrieta. "We're not talking about rapists.
> We're talking about human beings. How would they
> feel if it was their kids?"
>
> After the illegal immigrants are processed,
> Immigration and Customs Enforcement will decide
> who can be released while awaiting deportation
> proceedings.
>
> Earlier in the day, a chartered plane landed in
> San Diego with 136 migrants on board, according to
> a federal Department of Homeland Security official
> who was not authorized to be named when speaking
> on the issue.
>
> It was the first flight planned for California
> under the federal government's effort to ease the
> crunch in the Rio Grande Valley and deal with the
> flood of Central American children and families
> fleeing to the United States.
>
> The government is also planning to fly illegal
> immigrants to Texas cities and another site in
> California, and it has already taken some migrants
> to Arizona.
>
> More than 52,000 unaccompanied children have been
> detained after crossing the Texas-Mexico border
> since October in what President Obama has called a
> humanitarian crisis. Many of the illegal
> immigrants are under the impression that they will
> receive leniency from U.S. authorities.
>
> Another flight was expected to take 140 migrants
> to a facility in El Centro, California, on
> Wednesday, said Lombardo Amaya, president of the
> El Centro chapter of the Border Patrol union. The
> Border Patrol would not confirm that arrival date.

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By strategically posting “No Trespassing” signs in accordance with the law, a property owner has legal grounds to shoot trespassers found on their property. That’s what I was told. Why do we allow our government to make things so complicated and costly? Shoot first. Ask questions later. Within a day or two the problem is solved.
Attachments:
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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: ELepm ()
Date: July 04, 2014 07:50AM

Immigrants vs. culmore?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: NIMBY ()
Date: July 04, 2014 09:34AM

If not here, where? So much for a compassionate society

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: one more student per class ()
Date: July 04, 2014 12:49PM

compassion fatigue?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Worrieddd ()
Date: July 04, 2014 12:58PM

With all these kids coming in and with FCPS already having a hard time keeping up financially for the students that parents who pay the taxes how much else will the students loose in education if the are allowed to come. Someone needs to ask how many non US students are already in the system.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Big Brother ()
Date: July 04, 2014 01:08PM

Amazed at the uproar over this issue when Europe has seen as much or more from Africa over the past 5 years (Italy alone has seen 60,000 people from Africa alone so far this year). When you create an entitlement society and use the theory of "helping your fellow citizens" so they barely have to work, what do you expect? Others want the same and will do what they can to get here. Only a matter of time either the citizens fight back and say no more or watch in apathy as we further slip into dependence.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Pitiful ()
Date: July 07, 2014 02:24AM

I like this better:

http://www.galvestondailynews.com/free/article_8759f48a-056e-11e4-ada7-001a4bcf6878.html

LEAGUE CITY — The City Council is set to consider a resolution that would refuse any federal directives to process or house undocumented immigrants in League City.
A recent influx of undocumented children arriving in the U.S. has reignited the immigration debate at a national and local level.
The resolution, proposed by Councilwoman Heidi Thiess and Councilman Dan Becker, contends that an increasing population of undocumented minors poses a threat to students’ education and residents’ health.
The “increasing volume of illegal aliens is already bankrupting some cities and counties” in Texas, according to the proposed resolution.
The proposed resolution calls for city officials to deny any federal “requests or directives” to establish a facility to house, process or detain anyone in the country illegally, “designated as ‘refugee’ or otherwise.”
Citing a “potential threat of communicable diseases reported to be prevalent,” among undocumented immigrants, the resolution would also authorize city agencies to use “police power in any manner necessary to protect the health, safety and welfare of the citizens of League City.”
It also asks the state to take legislative and executive action to address the influx of undocumented immigrants, including additional resources for Border Patrol and enhanced human trafficking laws.
More than 50,000 unaccompanied minors have entered the U.S. from the border with Mexico since October, according to estimates from government officials. Most of the children are from Central American countries such as Guatemala.
Last week federal authorities relocated some detained undocumented immigrants to the Houston area.
The Galveston-based Children’s Center appeared on a list of suggested locations where undocumented children could find assistance in the Houston area. No League City locations were on the list.
The Children’s Center participates in a program that offers emergency housing for unaccompanied minors. It’s unclear if the proposal going before the League City Council would restrict private organizations and churches that may offer housing and aid to unaccompanied minors.
The City Council will meet for a work session today at the Johnnie Arolfo Civic Center, 400 West Walker St. at 5:30 p.m.
The proposed resolution is up for consideration Tuesday when the Council meets at 6 p.m. at 200 West Walker St.
Contact reporter Alex Macon at 409-683-5241 or alex.macon@galvnews.com.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: How it all works ()
Date: July 07, 2014 06:16AM

Gerry Connolly chief aide to Nancy Pelosi
Eric Holder's wife Sharon Malone supports congressional candidate John Foust
Connolly and Foust very tight with Fairfax supervisors like Penny Gross, Sharon Bulova, and Linda Smyth
Massive, uncontrolled immigration is having a huge negative impact on Fairfax County, and Fairfax citizen concerns are ignored and steamrolled.

(Immigrants are mostly good people who work hard and want a better life for their children. Immigration can be a positive for our nation. Massive, uncontrolled immigration is a negative for our nation.)

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Make it Stop ()
Date: July 07, 2014 09:36AM

Most of the citizens of Fairfax County are good people too who work hard and pay taxes only to suffer the collapse of our once shining schools and property values as we subsidize a growing, irresponsible and grossly dependent class.

At some point we must realize that we can't do it all for them and self reliance must be come into play. If these folks can't afford to live in Fairfax County then it's time to move.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Juan P ()
Date: July 07, 2014 09:42AM

Only a matter of time
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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Mason Resident ()
Date: July 07, 2014 09:59AM

NIMBY Wrote:
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> If not here, where? So much for a compassionate
> society

It is not a matter of NIMBY, the back yard is currently overflowing. We can't take care of all those souls now, so bring more in?

As for Penny's proposal....it is a "what if" scenario and that is a fair question to ask, but not the to the board members only, also to the taxpayer's.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Long Horn ()
Date: July 07, 2014 10:08AM

Pitiful Wrote:
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> I like this better:
>
> http://www.galvestondailynews.com/free/article_875
> 9f48a-056e-11e4-ada7-001a4bcf6878.html
>
> LEAGUE CITY — The City Council is set to
> consider a resolution that would refuse any
> federal directives to process or house
> undocumented immigrants in League City.
> A recent influx of undocumented children arriving
> in the U.S. has reignited the immigration debate
> at a national and local level.
> The resolution, proposed by Councilwoman Heidi
> Thiess and Councilman Dan Becker, contends that an
> increasing population of undocumented minors poses
> a threat to students’ education and residents’
> health.
> The “increasing volume of illegal aliens is
> already bankrupting some cities and counties” in
> Texas, according to the proposed resolution.
> The proposed resolution calls for city officials
> to deny any federal “requests or directives”
> to establish a facility to house, process or
> detain anyone in the country illegally,
> “designated as ‘refugee’ or otherwise.”
> Citing a “potential threat of communicable
> diseases reported to be prevalent,” among
> undocumented immigrants, the resolution would also
> authorize city agencies to use “police power in
> any manner necessary to protect the health, safety
> and welfare of the citizens of League City.”
> It also asks the state to take legislative and
> executive action to address the influx of
> undocumented immigrants, including additional
> resources for Border Patrol and enhanced human
> trafficking laws.
> More than 50,000 unaccompanied minors have entered
> the U.S. from the border with Mexico since
> October, according to estimates from government
> officials. Most of the children are from Central
> American countries such as Guatemala.
> Last week federal authorities relocated some
> detained undocumented immigrants to the Houston
> area.
> The Galveston-based Children’s Center appeared
> on a list of suggested locations where
> undocumented children could find assistance in the
> Houston area. No League City locations were on the
> list.
> The Children’s Center participates in a program
> that offers emergency housing for unaccompanied
> minors. It’s unclear if the proposal going
> before the League City Council would restrict
> private organizations and churches that may offer
> housing and aid to unaccompanied minors.
> The City Council will meet for a work session
> today at the Johnnie Arolfo Civic Center, 400 West
> Walker St. at 5:30 p.m.
> The proposed resolution is up for consideration
> Tuesday when the Council meets at 6 p.m. at 200
> West Walker St.
> Contact reporter Alex Macon at 409-683-5241 or
> alex.macon@galvnews.com.

Love this!

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Not a good situation. ()
Date: July 07, 2014 11:09AM

Our neighbor across the street has parties every weekend at their house, and on Sunday had a pretty good sized birthday party in their backyard, and their cars were parked on the road up and down the street. No big deal there, at this time of the year, everyone is having BBQs, parties, etc. The problem is with Hispanics is they just flaunt the law, and parked in front of the driveway for our American neighbor's house that unfortunately live next to them. I did a search of the address and found that a Bolivian owns that and two other houses in the area, and rents out that house to an employee(?) of his. Roughly there are about 50 to a hundred people in the backyard of that house on most weekends. Police are called and they don't do anything, except ask that they keep the music down. This time though, they saw the cars parked in front of driveways and too close to the intersections.

What's the freaking deal?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Enough ()
Date: July 07, 2014 12:03PM

Not a good situation. Wrote:
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>The problem is with Hispanics is they just flaunt the law, and parked in front of the driveway for our American neighbor's house that unfortunately live next to them...
> What's the freaking deal?


Weak police and code enforcement policies will allow this and similar behavior to persist and grow. There must be a deterrent.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: GK9Hv ()
Date: July 07, 2014 12:05PM

Enough Wrote:
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> Not a good situation. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >The problem is with Hispanics is they just flaunt
> the law, and parked in front of the driveway for
> our American neighbor's house that unfortunately
> live next to them...
> > What's the freaking deal?
>
>
> Weak police and code enforcement policies will
> allow this and similar behavior to persist and
> grow. There must be a deterrent.

I had an issue where my wife's car windshield was vandalized after she asked a hispanic male (drunk) to move his car that was parked IN OUR DRIVEWAY! Police came and did nothing.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: help me understand ()
Date: July 07, 2014 12:08PM

since when is it illegal to park cars on the street or have a party

Am I concerned with the illegal problem yes

The issue is most people complaining are the same HOA aholes who complain about everything tick people off and do more harm than good

To really get to the bottom of this we should be going after the employers. No jobs then the illegals go away.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Not a good situation. ()
Date: July 07, 2014 12:17PM

help me understand Wrote:
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> since when is it illegal to park cars on the
> street or have a party

It is when they park in front of your driveway so you can't get out. Also they can't park to close to the intersection and there's an ordinance about parking within 10 feet of driveways. Also there is a noise ordinance, these people have their spanish music blaring until 1 and 2am.

See here:

Noise
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/code/noise/

Parking Restrictions and Related Issues
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/fcdot/parking_restrictions.htm

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: serious question ()
Date: July 07, 2014 12:40PM

have you talked to them

I find that when I have an issue with neighbors talking to them usually does the trick. If its still an issue then you can escalate it.

I live in a very diverse area and 95% of the time talking solves the problem

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Not a good situation ()
Date: July 07, 2014 12:48PM

serious question Wrote:
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> have you talked to them
>
> I find that when I have an issue with neighbors
> talking to them usually does the trick. If its
> still an issue then you can escalate it.
>
> I live in a very diverse area and 95% of the time
> talking solves the problem

Oh yes, several times. Twice I have woken up to go to work on a Saturday morning and found a (drunk) friend of the neighbor's truck parked on my front lawn less than 6 feet from my front door. The cops came out on the 2nd time and arrested the driver (who had been drunk driving). He had parked it there confusing my house with his friend (my neighbor) at around 2am. Our two houses look nothing alike.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Not a good situation ()
Date: July 07, 2014 12:51PM

When I talked to the neighbor they were nice and friendly but basically told me to go fuck myself that they could park anywhere on the street they wanted. When I told them the ordinance, they slammed the door in my face. I've even heard them say shit in spanish to us and other neighbors. It's gotten to the point where the police have had to come out every weekend for a complaint from others in the neighborhood. Even heard one today that they throw uneaten food from their parties into yet another neighbor's yard.

BTW, all of them are here illegally, they are currently going thru the immigration process. The two houses (across the street from each other) are owned by a Bolivian who owns several other properties in the area.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Not a good situation ()
Date: July 07, 2014 02:03PM

Did I mention how sometimes we come home and find spanish people sitting on our deck in our backyard? They confuse my house with my neighbor's and sometimes climb over our fence or go through our gate to get into our backyard. I've since put in a lock and complained to the police on that more than a few times. They did nothing, even though I have had several "No Trespassing" signs on each side of my house and my backyard.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Softball ()
Date: July 07, 2014 06:48PM

Not a good situation Wrote:
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> They confuse my house with my neighbor's
> and sometimes climb over our fence or go through
> our gate to get into our backyard.

They are good at scaling fences. That's how they got here in the first place.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: SendEmBack ()
Date: July 07, 2014 10:01PM

Don't Herndon the rest of Fairfax. Parts of Herndon are an infested illegal alien shithole.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: On the Road Again ()
Date: July 08, 2014 12:17AM

You can be sure they ain't headed to McLean or Great Falls, Open wide Mason District, Mount Vernon and Lee!

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: First Things First ()
Date: July 08, 2014 12:34AM

Fairfax County has a sizable homeless population to take care of before taking on this burden.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: ThomasDiversffcpd ()
Date: July 08, 2014 01:48AM

Your anus is fragrant.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Ddvpd ()
Date: July 08, 2014 02:08AM

The law is never enforced by ffcpd haven't u fucktards got that yet??!!!
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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Inigo Montoya ()
Date: July 08, 2014 05:45AM

Not a good situation Wrote:
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> Did I mention how sometimes we come home and find
> spanish people sitting on our deck in our
> backyard?

These are Spanish people and they don't look like they would be any problem. But I don't think that's what is really on your deck...
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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Where are they now? ()
Date: July 08, 2014 08:57AM

Illegal immigrants: Where are they now?
http://www.insidenova.com/headlines/illegal-immigrants-where-are-they-now/article_341c311a-060f-11e4-b933-0019bb2963f4.html

Illegal immigration is once again a hot topic in Prince William County.

Board of supervisors Chairman Corey Stewart wants to force federal officials to say whether they’ve deported – or released -- an estimated 7,000 undocumented residents arrested by local police since 2008.

Stewart, R-At Large, has asked the board to vote this month on sending a Freedom of Information Act request to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to determine the whereabouts of people who have been arrested in the county and later turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials.

Federal officials have so far refused to share that information with the county. But at least some of those arrested have returned to the area, Stewart said, because about 700 have been re-arrested by police for other crimes over the years.

Stewart acknowledges that revisiting the immigration issue will likely remind residents of the county’s past controversial efforts to crack down on undocumented residents – some of which made national headlines. But he says the measure has nothing to do with racial profiling or any attempt to actively seek out recent immigrants.

Instead, Stewart says, the county simply wants to follow up on the whereabouts of arrestees suspected of being in the country illegally.

“I certainly don’t want to refight those battles, but this is a public safety concern first and foremost,” Stewart said. “What we’re trying to do is find out what the government did with these illegal alien criminals, some of whom are fairly dangerous.”

According to the 2013 Prince William County crime report, 496 people who lacked sufficient documents to live in the U.S. were arrested for crimes last year. That’s about 1 percent of the total number of county arrests.

The majority of those arrests – about 85 percent – were for traffic and misdemeanor charges while about 15 percent were for felonies, according to the report.

Some of Stewart’s fellow supervisors said they are surprised Stewart is raising the issue now and wondered aloud if the effort might be rooted in politics -- now that illegal immigration is once again making national headlines.

Supervisor Maureen Caddigan, R-Potomac, said Stewart’s proposal seemed a bit “out of the blue.” She also wonders whether it’s worth the effort.

“I have some questions about it,” she said. “We did this once before it gave us a black eye, and I guess my question is, with ICE, what is the FOIA going to cost?... Is it going to do any good? I guess I was really wondering what the purpose is.”

Caddigan called the recent arrival of unaccompanied immigrant children, thousands of whom are being detained in Arizona and Texas, “heartbreaking” and said more needs to be done to secure the nation’s borders. But she said immigration is a federal issue and not something the county has power to do anything about.

“We have people who are elected to work on those types of things,” she said. “I just don’t know why it’s on our level.”

Supervisor John Jenkins, D-Neabsco, said he hasn’t decided how he will vote and said he needs more information.

“I’m trying to figure out what damage is being done by status quo, I guess,” Jenkins said. “I don’t have enough information to say right now, but I think we should get more support from the federal government on identifying and treating the problem.”

Supervisor Pete Candland, R-Gainesville, said he’ll likely support the proposal simply because he’s always in favor of gathering more information.

But Candland also said he hopes to hear from law-enforcement officials about the need for the measure and whether there’s been a recent uptick in crime committed by undocumented residents.

“I hope [the measure] is rooted in some sort of facts, that there’s some sort of indication this will have a practical effect,” Candland said. “And I guess the FOIA will let us know.”

If the board approves the measure, it will mark the third time the county has attempted to obtain information on those referred to ICE as part of an agreement the county has had with ICE since 2008.

The program enables jail officers to check arrestees’ immigration status against an ICE database. If they are found to lack proper documents, their cases are referred to ICE. It’s unclear, however, whether the arrestees are physically transferred to ICE custody. Stewart said transfers are made to ICE after arrestees’ cases are adjudicated by local courts.

The county filed its first and second FOIAs with DHS in 2010 after Benedictine nun Denise Mosier was killed by a vehicle driven by Carlos A. Martinelly-Montano, then 24, who was determined to have entered the U.S. illegally from Bolivia with his family in 1996, when he was about 10 years old.

Martinelly-Montano, who was convicted on charges related to the fatal crash and is serving a prison term, had been convicted on drunk driving charges twice before the wreck. After the second conviction in 2008, Prince William County officials referred his case to ICE officials. Martinelly-Montano was a awaiting a deportation hearing when the crash occurred.

The county learned the details of Martinelly-Montano’s immigration status because of a FOIA request issued in 2010 for his “alien file,” which detailed how DHS followed up with his case following the 2008 arrest.

A second FOIA request was made for the alien files of every person detained from Prince William County between Jan. 1, 2008 and Nov. 22, 2010, the date the FOIA was issued, according to information provided by Prince William County Attorney Angela Horan’s office.

Federal officials initially refused to share Martinelly-Montano’s file, so the county filed a lawsuit and won a court order forcing DHS to turn over the file.

DHS responded to the second FOIA in February 2011, but only after county officials sought assistance from members of Congress.

But the information provided, a heavily redacted DHS spreadsheet, did not contain the information county officials were looking for. So the county filed a second lawsuit in U.S. District Court that was eventually dismissed when the judge directed county attorneys to exhaust “all administrative remedies” with DHS first, Horan wrote.

Stewart says he suspects the new effort will also eventually end up in court. According to Horan, the previous legal effort cost about $1,500 in county attorneys’ time, and the new effort would likely be similar.

“This effort would likely be in that ballpark,” Horan wrote. “However, costs could be higher, depending on the amount of staff resources ultimately required.”

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Illegal Immigrant Kids Flooding System
Posted by: Illegal Immigrant Kids Flooding ()
Date: July 08, 2014 09:30AM

Illegal Immigrant Kids Flooding System

Watch the news story here:
http://www.wusa9.com/videos/news/local/2014/07/08/12349219/

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Kids Flooding System
Posted by: Done ()
Date: July 08, 2014 09:57AM

The time to prepare was in 2007.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Grossssss ()
Date: July 08, 2014 10:01PM

Penny Gross is a transvestite is this fact? no but you morons will believe about anything.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: XMJhU ()
Date: July 09, 2014 09:39AM

Where do they get these nutbag politicians from anyway?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: twxYk ()
Date: July 09, 2014 11:32AM

totally right. MEXICO should not see anything wrong with caring for their own KIDS



going back home after vacationing in a foreign country is not a legal penalty

being sent back to the country you help create is not a penalty

if there are problems with corruption in the country then stealing from another country to avoid it is obviously not a fair answer

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"fair" isn't you walk in my country and get a gov job at 3x the payrate before sharon bull o va got in which is them stealing from me , and if i go to your country i'd be running for the boarder

obviously i didn't make the problem nor do i owe to resolve it

i owe to kick the ass of over paid early retiring gov and political workers here esp if corrupt in practices. to such an effeet they would use tax money to prevent others from earning.

thinking i'm slating on my credit things i didn't buy but others did ...

your a joke if you think i'm assumign debt of every fricking green card gov worker under sharon bull o va would hire to keep her ass in a mcmansion

i have my own problems and #1 is to be productive not chasing down assholes

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: VJTHW ()
Date: July 09, 2014 11:32AM


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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Don't Do It ()
Date: July 09, 2014 08:10PM

Our welfare system is strained
Our schools are crumbling
Our neighborhoods filled with overcrowded homes
Our property values are decaying
Our donation of charitable time and money is exhausted

We are reaching a tipping point.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: ¡Ay ay ay! ()
Date: July 10, 2014 12:54AM

http://fcnp.com/2014/07/03/a-penny-for-your-thoughts-news-of-greater-falls-church-156/

By Penny Gross

Happy 4th of July! I hope all the parades, picnics, and fireworks will be terrific! There are so many places in the world today where the “rockets’ red glare and bombs bursting in air” actually are military armaments, not carefully planned colorful displays we enjoy at the Mall or local park. I am thankful every day that we live in such a great, and peaceful, nation. No wonder people want to come here.

And there’s the rub. Recent media reports have focused on thousands of children fleeing to the United States from Central and South America, unaccompanied by their parents or other responsible adults. The federal government, according to the reports, is housing the children in old federal facilities in Arizona, California, and Texas, while efforts to identify the children and what to do about them continue. The numbers apparently have overwhelmed the ability of the Border Patrol and other federal agencies to handle the situation. Last week, the small town of Lawrenceville, Virginia, near the North Carolina border, was in the news when it learned of a federal plan to house 500 children at St. Paul’s College, a historic black college that is closing. The town of about 1400 residents apparently had not been consulted ahead of time, and town leaders were concerned about how its existing infrastructure – police, fire protection, schools – could handle an increase of so many children at once. No one had time to plan.

And there’s another rub. Local governments provide local services; the feds don’t. Local governments plan for gradual growth in services needed by residents and businesses, based on trends tracked across time. While extra services, such as those generated by weather-related incidents, usually can be accommodated on an emergency basis for a short time, the situation is much different for long-term needs. Long-term planning is critical, and that is why, at Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors meeting, I asked County Executive Ed Long to examine the issues and provide the Board with recommendations about steps that may be needed to handle an unexpected influx of unaccompanied children, if such an event should occur, and report back at our July 29 Board meeting.

Fairfax County has a long history of welcoming newcomers. In the mid-1970s, Vietnamese refugees, many with professional degrees, came to Fairfax after the fall of Saigon. In the early 1980s, Afghani refugees, including educators and engineers, came after the Russians invaded their homeland. They have opened businesses, raised families, and became an integral part of the diverse tapestry of our community. In 2005, after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf Coast, Fairfax County welcomed a few hundred families who were forced out of their homes. Volunteers and non-profit agencies stepped forward, as did the school system, to provide temporary assistance for about a year, until the families could return home.

We should be able to meet any challenge, with good planning. That’s the gist of my Board Matter, and something to think about on Independence Day.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: gag reflex ()
Date: July 10, 2014 12:59AM

¡Ay ay ay! Wrote:
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> http://fcnp.com/2014/07/03/a-penny-for-your-though
> ts-news-of-greater-falls-church-156/
>
> By Penny Gross
>
> Happy 4th of July! I hope all the parades,
> picnics, and fireworks will be terrific! There are
> so many places in the world today where the
> “rockets’ red glare and bombs bursting in
> air” actually are military armaments, not
> carefully planned colorful displays we enjoy at
> the Mall or local park. I am thankful every day
> that we live in such a great, and peaceful,
> nation. No wonder people want to come here.
>
> And there’s the rub. Recent media reports have
> focused on thousands of children fleeing to the
> United States from Central and South America,
> unaccompanied by their parents or other
> responsible adults. The federal government,
> according to the reports, is housing the children
> in old federal facilities in Arizona, California,
> and Texas, while efforts to identify the children
> and what to do about them continue. The numbers
> apparently have overwhelmed the ability of the
> Border Patrol and other federal agencies to handle
> the situation. Last week, the small town of
> Lawrenceville, Virginia, near the North Carolina
> border, was in the news when it learned of a
> federal plan to house 500 children at St. Paul’s
> College, a historic black college that is closing.
> The town of about 1400 residents apparently had
> not been consulted ahead of time, and town leaders
> were concerned about how its existing
> infrastructure – police, fire protection,
> schools – could handle an increase of so many
> children at once. No one had time to plan.
>
> And there’s another rub. Local governments
> provide local services; the feds don’t. Local
> governments plan for gradual growth in services
> needed by residents and businesses, based on
> trends tracked across time. While extra services,
> such as those generated by weather-related
> incidents, usually can be accommodated on an
> emergency basis for a short time, the situation is
> much different for long-term needs. Long-term
> planning is critical, and that is why, at
> Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors meeting, I asked
> County Executive Ed Long to examine the issues and
> provide the Board with recommendations about steps
> that may be needed to handle an unexpected influx
> of unaccompanied children, if such an event should
> occur, and report back at our July 29 Board
> meeting.
>
> Fairfax County has a long history of welcoming
> newcomers. In the mid-1970s, Vietnamese refugees,
> many with professional degrees, came to Fairfax
> after the fall of Saigon. In the early 1980s,
> Afghani refugees, including educators and
> engineers, came after the Russians invaded their
> homeland. They have opened businesses, raised
> families, and became an integral part of the
> diverse tapestry of our community. In 2005, after
> Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf
> Coast, Fairfax County welcomed a few hundred
> families who were forced out of their homes.
> Volunteers and non-profit agencies stepped
> forward, as did the school system, to provide
> temporary assistance for about a year, until the
> families could return home.
>
> We should be able to meet any challenge, with good
> planning. That’s the gist of my Board Matter,
> and something to think about on Independence Day.


I just threw up in my mouth a little.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: The US is Fucked ()
Date: July 10, 2014 05:25AM

Unfortunately this stupid fucking liberal politician is stating the reality that the surge of border teens and children are heading to Fairfax. This surge isn't poor little orphans wandering thousands of miles across Mexico to arrive at the border. It is Mommy and Daddy paying smugglers thousands of dollars to come live with them in America and take advantage of fucking Obama's Dream Act. See mommy and daddy or more accurately Momma and Baby Daddy, already live in Culmore. That little tyke that they left will ensure they don't get deported AND as an added bonus will qualify them for benefits.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Try Again ()
Date: July 10, 2014 08:51AM

This is how it's done!

http://m.wcyb.com/news/motion-approved-to-keep-immigrant-children-from-relocating-to-washington-county-va/26873858

Motion approved to keep immigrant children from relocating to Washington County, VA
By Callan Gray, cgray@wcyb.com

WASHINGTON COUNTY, VA -

We told you two weeks ago about rumors immigrant children could relocate to the Virginia Intermont College campus. At that time, we also found out the Washington County Board of Supervisors were planning to take action to keep that from happening.

We spoke with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services to see if VI was an option for housing the children. They told us the list of sites being considered is not available.

On Tuesday night, the Washington County, Va. Board of Supervisors unanimously passed a resolution saying they do not want immigrant children to be housed in the county or the surrounding areas.

"It's nothing against children or immigrants," said Dr. James Baker, the board member who proposed the resolution. "These really aren't immigrants. Immigrants come through the front door, these are sneaking through the window."

Baker called this an issue of lawlessness. He wrote in the measure, "the United States' southern border is currently being invaded by tens of thousands of illegal aliens."

We asked if he really felt the U.S. is being invaded. He replied, "I think it's hard to find a definition of invaded that doesn't fit."

Baker said that's why his resolution explicitly states they don't want illegal immigrants within the county, "unless charged as federal or state criminals."

It's tougher than the first draft from County Administrator Jason Berry, which would've told the federal government to ask the county for permission before bringing the children here.

Baker told us he doesn't think the government would give that heads up.

"It's not like they're presenting us with a plan and saying here's where we'll house 300 people, here's the amount of additional monies to support and pay for them that you'll receive," he explained.

Some county residents spoke up at Tuesday's meeting before the measure was approved, asking the board to reconsider.

"It's a complicated thing that is happening but it shows a level of desperation," said one resident.

Abrams Falls Road resident Christina Rehfuss said, "How many of our ancestors had to make the decision to put their kids on a ship and send them across the ocean because if they didn't, their kids would starve to death?"

Despite the opposition, Baker told us he stands by his decision saying the only immigrants welcome here are those who enter legally.

The county's resolution has no legal ground, it's just an opinion.

Baker said they'll send it to representatives at the state and federal level and pass it along to neighboring counties.

Click here to take a look at the resolution.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Be Gone With You ()
Date: July 10, 2014 09:24AM

Fairfax County is rotting from the inside out. These other counties in Virginia are showing some sense. Our Fairfax County Board of Supervisors must go!

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Unfortunately too late ()
Date: July 10, 2014 09:58AM

Be Gone With You Wrote:
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> Fairfax County is rotting from the inside out.
> These other counties in Virginia are showing some
> sense. Our Fairfax County Board of Supervisors
> must go!


FCPS has already rotted. It's a shadow of what it was 30 years ago. Developments over last two decades have ensured the collapse of the school system's reputation. Families won't pay extremely high real estate prices for mediocre schools. It's what happens when we elect politicians like Connolly, Foust, Gross, Smyth, Bulova, and Obama. There is not even the pretense that they are serving the taxpaying citizens of the county. They prefer the reliable support of dependent voters.

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Immigration debate rekindles issues in Va.
Posted by: Getting hotter ()
Date: July 10, 2014 09:59AM

Immigration debate rekindles issues in Va.
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/virginia/2014/07/09/immigration-debate-rekindles-issues-va/12431211/

WOODBRIDGE,Va. (WUSA9) -- The detainment of hundreds of immigrant children in the southwest part of the United States has rekindled a long standing debate over illegal immigration in Virginia.

Prince William county is again the focal point and there may be yet another lawsuit.

The county began checking the immigration status of anyone arrested by local police in 2008 despite heated debate and protest. The confrontation over the issue reached a peak after the conviction of illegal immigrant Carlos Montano in 2012 for a drunk driving accident which killed a local nun.

He was sentenced to 20 years in prison. However, the Prince William county wants to know again what happened to the 7,000 illegal immigrants local police arrested for crimes that were turned over to federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents.

Board of Supervisors Chairman Corey Stewart says they are renewing their efforts to get that information because of the renewed interest in illegal immigration country wide. He wants to know where each of the people is, either in jail, deported or where they are living.

But Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg from Legal Aide Justice Center says statistics on what happened to those people would be useful and he'd like to see them too, but revealing individual names and locations would be an invasion of privacy.

The first lawsuit filed by the county board of supervisors was rejected by the courts in 2011.

Stewart says they will file another one to get the information if their freedom of information request from I-C-E doesn't come soon.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: KEkPw ()
Date: July 10, 2014 11:46AM

When is the next meeting?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Angry ()
Date: July 10, 2014 12:49PM

KEkPw Wrote:
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> When is the next meeting?


Fairfax County BOS next meeting is July 29

Board of Supervisors Meetings:

Board meetings are open to the public and conducted according to the Board’s Rules of Procedure based on Robert’s Rules of Order. The chairman presides at Board meetings and has all the rights and duties of other Board members including one vote, but does not have independent executive authority or a legislative veto.
The Board usually meets two Tuesdays per month in the Board Auditorium in the Fairfax County Government Center, 12000 Government Center Parkway, Fairfax.

Meeting Schedule
Latest: July 1
Next: July 29

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: pCCPH ()
Date: July 10, 2014 03:38PM

she's a snowflake (pretty, white, there for show) on the take (getting bribed)

she doesn't represent me. and she knows i'm more a minority than they. she knows of great imbalance , but likely because she's creating it.

a total heartless bitch supporting anyone against republicans as if republicans are not part of her own country , as if she could claim "i though i could call them enemy and wage turf wars even though they were born here"

as if. seems to me a gov protects people from within against marauding from abroad

if i remember correctly

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: KEkPw ()
Date: July 10, 2014 03:41PM

Angry Wrote:
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> KEkPw Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When is the next meeting?
>
>
> Fairfax County BOS next meeting is July 29
>
> Board of Supervisors Meetings:
>
> Board meetings are open to the public and
> conducted according to the Board’s Rules of
> Procedure based on Robert’s Rules of Order. The
> chairman presides at Board meetings and has all
> the rights and duties of other Board members
> including one vote, but does not have independent
> executive authority or a legislative veto.
> The Board usually meets two Tuesdays per month in
> the Board Auditorium in the Fairfax County
> Government Center, 12000 Government Center
> Parkway, Fairfax.
>
> Meeting Schedule
> Latest: July 1
> Next: July 29

Thanks!

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: health risks ()
Date: July 10, 2014 04:46PM


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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Heated ()
Date: July 10, 2014 09:46PM

This is getting bad...

Houston mom goes off on border children situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W3OWr_0CF0

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: fupy7 ()
Date: July 10, 2014 10:12PM

¡Ay ay ay! Wrote:
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> http://fcnp.com/2014/07/03/a-penny-for-your-though
> ts-news-of-greater-falls-church-156/
>
> By Penny Gross
...
>
> Fairfax County has a long history of welcoming
> newcomers. In the mid-1970s, Vietnamese refugees,
> many with professional degrees, came to Fairfax
> after the fall of Saigon. In the early 1980s,
> Afghani refugees, including educators and
> engineers, came after the Russians invaded their
> homeland. They have opened businesses, raised
> families, and became an integral part of the
> diverse tapestry of our community.

Extemely different circumstances here with hundreds of thousands of unaccomapnied, uneducated, non english speaking children destined to our welfare system.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Fed Up! ()
Date: July 11, 2014 06:07AM

My mortgage payments will be higher next month to compensate for the increased property taxes. Averages aside, mine was a pretty good jump in actual dollars coming out of my pocket. So... not really in the mood for any grandstanding waste of taxpayer dollars

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Fairfax = Melting Pot ()
Date: July 11, 2014 06:15AM

Living in Fairfax is like living in a foreign country. THIS IS the melting pot of America, right here! Immigration laws are a joke in this country and law abiding, tax paying citizens are fed up, ergo, we are now seeing protests across the country and it is only going to get worse.

It did not go unnoticed that the police were out, in force, week before last at the U-Haul store up from IKEA chasing the illegals away from the store front. I applaud their efforts but it is like placing a bandage on an everlasting wound. It is useless. I do not frequent any of the stores on Rte 1 near Marumsco Plaza because I won't walk past a bunch of men in order to get into a store. What a shame that I have never been in any of those stores in the 7 years I have lived here. I went shopping today and I drove down to Aquia/Garrisonville where the people are polite and where I feel safe.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: There's No Place Like Home ()
Date: July 11, 2014 09:41AM

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/07/us_spending_252_a_day_per_chil.html

US spending $252 a day per child to care for young illegal immigrants, fourth military base now housing site


Leada Gore | lgore@al.com By Leada Gore | lgore@al.com
Email the author | Follow on Twitter
on July 03, 2014 at 2:56 PM, updated July 03, 2014 at 2:57 PM


With communities across the country pushing back on plans to locate young illegal immigrants in their area, the federal government is looking towards military bases to house the thousands of children streaming across America's southwestern border.

The Department of Health and Human Services announced yesterday it was no longer considering a Federal Emergency Management Agency facility in Anniston as a temporary housing location for undocumented children. On the same day, the Department of Defense announced a fourth military base will be opened as a shelter site.

"It's the right thing to do," Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, said.

The Pentagon has offered Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington, according to a report in Military.com. The base is home to a former summer camp which may be used as a housing location for as many as 600 children.

"We have offered this up to the Department of Health and Human Services to house the children while the Justice Department decides their fate," Warren said. "Those kids need a place to sleep."

Fort Sill, Oklahoma, Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas and Naval Base Ventura County in Southern California are currently housing as many as 2,572 children. The Military.com report said HHS has leased housing on the three bases for 120 days with an option to renew if needed.

High cost of care

Figures from Customs and Border Protection show 52,193 unaccompanied children age 17 and below - the vast majority from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras - have been apprehended at the southwestern border from last Oct. 1 through June 15. The cost for caring for the children is about $252 a day.

The total cost of care is expected to top $2 billion this year and will be covered through HHS.

"They're arriving exhausted and scared, in need of food and water," said CBP Commissioner R. Gil Kerlikowske. "Our agency and the Department of Homeland Security have mobilized to address this situation in a way consistent with our laws and our American values."

Kerlikowske said there have been more than 220 deaths along the southwest border this year, including 34 water-related deaths, or drownings.
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Staggering cost to the already generous US Taxpayers. If they stay the cost grows as we subsidize them and the families they will have.

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Posted by: Where They'll Stop Nobody Knows ()
Date: July 11, 2014 06:19PM

Lookout Virginia!!


http://www.abpnews.com/culture/social-issues/item/28921-baptists-represented-in-presidential-meeting-on-child-immigrant-crisis

By Jeff Brumley

Baptist disaster relief agencies are pressing hard to determine what, if anything, they can to do aid the immigrant children flooding into the nation along the southern border by the tens of thousands.

While some help has already been rendered, organizations ranging from Texas Baptist Men to the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship say it’s getting harder for volunteer-based groups to get access to the young immigrants as the federal government becomes more involved. Some of them also report growing criticism from Baptists and other Americans politically opposed to the presence of undocumented foreigners in the United States.

“We have received a lot of negative comments, and most don’t leave their names and [phone] numbers,” said Terry Henderson, state disaster relief director for TBM.

Comments include accusations that providing aid to immigrants only encourages them to keep coming.

“I say you need to come here and see before you make these comments,” he said.

Not that such criticisms are keeping aid agencies, including Catholic Charities, the Salvation Army, Baptist and other churches and organizations, from sending help.

Since May, they’ve been working in Texas border cities like Brownsville, Laredo and McAllen to meet the needs of what has grown to the estimated 50,000 unaccompanied immigrant children who have crossed the border so far in 2014. In May, TBM was asked by the Federal Emergency Management Agency to provide volunteers to help undocumented immigrants.

They are arriving in the U.S. in desperate conditions and being housed in shelters and detention centers. The scope of the situation is being described as a major humanitarian crisis.

But there are some significant differences between the border crisis and the natural disasters many Baptist and other agencies are accustomed to handling.

‘Ready to provide compassion’

For one, it’s much more complex because it’s both a domestic and an international crisis, said Tommy Deal, national disaster response coordinator for CBF.

Deal said he’s been communicating with CBF of Texas about the border situation, but added some of the organization’s response also may come from its international disaster response operations.


Tommy Deal
Meanwhile, CBF field personnel located along the border already are working with local churches to find ways to help, he said.

However and whoever responds, Deal said, the immigration situation can definitely be considered the kind of event that calls for disaster relief.

“It can be called a man-made disaster because it’s an event that’s taxing the local communities’ resources,” Deal said.

Increased liabilities

The crisis is a challenge for relief groups because it’s being managed by several federal agencies, said Dean Miller, disaster relief coordinator for the Virginia Baptist Mission Board.

President Obama recently asked Congress for $3.7 billion to address the crisis. The money would be shared by the Health and Human Services, Justice and Homeland Security departments — all of which are managing parts of the response.

Miller said that’s different from the kinds of crises Baptist and other faith-based disaster relief groups are trained to handle.

Dean Miller
“Some elements are similar — if we were asked to provide some temporary care for children during the day, for example,” Miller said via email. But “this is just so different [with] many more government agencies involved and the liability is increased.”

Due to those layers of jurisdiction, few know who to approach for permissions to respond — or even to learn what the specific needs are.

But the VBMB is preparing for the possibility that the government may transport immigrant children to Virginia, Miller said. He added they are also ready to respond to other states, if and when asked.

Miller said Virginia Baptists are “ready to provide compassion to an innocent group of children who need to feel the love of Christ during a difficult time.”

Limited options

Even so, statewide and national groups are feeling the pressure to act.

“We are beginning to find places along the border where churches and other organizations have been responding since all this happened — and they are getting tired,” said Marla Bearden, disaster response specialist with the Baptist General Convention of Texas.

“They are reaching out to people other than their sphere of influence for help.”

At the moment, few have access to the child immigrants because they are sequestered in government-supervised facilities. But Texas Baptists are trying to make arrangements to create travel packs to be given the youth when they are transported to other cities, including Dallas.

Marla Bearden
She said there’s also a need for Spanish-language Bibles — with both Old and New testaments — for immigrants currently being housed at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas.

Otherwise, those wishing to volunteer more directly need to be patient while authorities work out if and how non-governmental agencies can help.

“We are very limited in what we can do,” Bearden said.

‘That’s the deal’

Bearden added that the border situation has a political dimension that other crisis situations do not.

“I spoke with a couple of volunteers who worked with the children, who went with the idea that we just need to turn them back,” Bearden said.

She added that their attitude didn’t last very long after arrival.

“Once they saw the conditions the children were in, it changed their hearts and it changed them.”

The children are dirty and tired and infested with lice when they arrive in the U.S., she said.

“Some of them are as young as 3 years old who came across unaccompanied,” Bearden said. “That’s pretty bad.”

There are some who can be helped more directly, Henderson added, including immigrant families who are being sent back to their native countries.

Terry Henderson
Between the time of their processing and their return by bus, they can do laundry at a TBM laundry truck in McAllen and take showers at a TBM shower trailer in Loredo.

The key is that something is being done when possible — especially when children are involved, Henderson said.

“If Jesus was standing here with us, what would he tell us to do? That sounds kind of basic, but that’s the deal,” he said.

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Posted by: Honestly ()
Date: July 12, 2014 06:19AM

Answer to original OP, because Penny Gross, like Gerry Connolly, John Foust, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama, has no respect for the rule of law, or taxpaying citizens in general. They find dependent voters more reliable.

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Posted by: Cribbed ()
Date: July 12, 2014 10:40AM

http://www.arlnow.com/2014/07/09/unaccompanied-minor-immigrants-pose-dilemma-for-arlington/

Looks like Fairfax and Arlington are working from the same script. Give it a rest!


Unaccompanied Minor Immigrants Pose Dilemma for Arlington

by Ethan Rothstein | July 9, 2014 at 3:30 pm | 3,713 views | 185 Comments

APS Walk and Bike to School DayAcross the country, the boom in unaccompanied minors emigrating from Central America has caused federal authorities to devote more resources to border protection and enforce stricter deportation policies.

While one Arlington official is calling the growth in this population a “crisis,” most say we’re not there yet. Nonetheless, the county is monitoring the situation and making preparations before such immigrants start to have an impact.

Last week, the Sun Gazette reported that School Board member Emma Violand-Sanchez and County Board member Walter Tejada met with representatives from the Guatemalan Consulate to discuss the trend of unaccompanied minor immigrants, and, after the meeting, Violand-Sanchez told the School Board it was a “crisis situation.”

Tejada told ARLnow.com this morning that, while he wouldn’t characterize Arlington’s current population of unaccompanied minors as a crisis, the county is taking steps to prepare in case the population grows substantially.

“We’re organizing right now and saying, ‘how do we deal with this, what issues are we confronting?’” Tejada said. “The most important question is the welfare of the kids. How do we protect the children from being taken advantage of and falling into the wrong world? It’s a very complicated situation.”

According to Arlington Public Schools spokeswoman Linda Erdos, there were only 10 students identified as “homeless/unaccompanied youth” in the last school year. There were also 83 students in APS’ “Accelerated Literacy Support” program as of June, for older students new to the country who need additional literary support. That number increased from 22 students in June 2012.

“Because we are currently on summer break, we may not know the full impact on APS of the immigration of youth from Central America until the end of August and/or later in the 2014-15 school year,” Erdos said in an email. “We know that we need to be prepared to address this, given the reports in the media, and the response from the President and the federal government. We are also watching the situation closely because we know this may have a major impact on our operating budget.”

Arlington’s Department of Human Services hasn’t seen an increase in unaccompanied minors, according to department spokesman Kurt Larrick. There are always a few who come to the county every year, Larrick said, and those “tend to be older, they tend to have had a rough life at home.”

“I don’t think we’re at a crisis now by any means,” Larrick said. “We’re a long way from the Central American border so I don’t think it’s as acute locally as in other parts of the country.”

Both Larrick and Erdos said Arlington is an appealing destination for many of these immigrants because of its reputation for being welcoming, which dates back to accepting Vietnamese refugees during and after the Vietnam War in the 1970s.

Tejada said it’s impossible to know if the immigrants will eventually come to Arlington in large numbers, but instead of “being reactionary” as the county has been in the past to similar issues, this time the county is being proactive. Tejada said the county plans to organize “mobile Consulates” from different countries with populations in Arlington, such as El Salvador and Guatemala, in August.

“We’re alerting our partners to stand by,” Tejada said. ”There will be a call to action at some point, but we have to be careful not to put out a false call when there is no need.”

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Posted by: Liberals "Dream Act" ()
Date: July 12, 2014 10:51AM

This is where were going.


Why dont these people fend for themselves and build their own contries up???? Since they are so proud and fly their countrys flag.


Instead of coming here to tear ours down???
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Posted by: Location, Location, Location ()
Date: July 12, 2014 11:30AM

Isn't there room at Gitmo?

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Posted by: fdx9v ()
Date: July 12, 2014 01:31PM

Don't Do It Wrote:
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> Our welfare system is strained
> Our schools are crumbling
> Our neighborhoods filled with overcrowded homes
> Our property values are decaying
> Our donation of charitable time and money is
> exhausted
>
> We are reaching a tipping point.


Si, se puede!

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Posted by: Fix This ()
Date: July 13, 2014 12:04AM

Already in Fairfax County!


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-us-classrooms-prepare-for-flood-as-migrants-become-pupils-20140712,0,4892752,full.story


Esmé E. Deprez with help from Jose Enrique Arrioja

7:34 p.m. CDT, July 12, 2014

The record flood of Central American children crossing the U.S. border is stretching funds and setting off improvisation at public schools.

While politicians spend the summer fighting over how to turn back the tide, school leaders across the country are struggling to absorb a new student population the size of Newark, New Jersey. More than 40,000 children, many of them fresh from violent, harrowing journeys, have been released since October to stateside relatives as courts process their cases.

"These kids were homesick and heartbroken," said Robin Hamby, a family specialist for Fairfax County Public Schools in suburban Washington, which began feeling the surge almost as soon as it began three years ago.

Her Virginia district employs more teachers who work with non-English speakers than ever, and wrote a curriculum to reunite children and parents, many of whom haven't seen one another in years. Houston is increasing training and translation. Los Angeles nurses are working overtime to screen for emotional trauma created on the journey north.

U.S. authorities have apprehended more than 52,000 lone minors this fiscal year, part of a wave mostly from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. This week, President Barack Obama asked Congress for $3.7 billion to cope with the deluge that's overwhelmed processing centers, shelters where some children stay, courts and social-service agencies.

The Justice Department is changing its policy to give unaccompanied minors and families with children priority in immigration court, which could speed deportations and dissuade others from coming. Most children won't qualify for humanitarian relief and will be deported, said White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest.

A report from the office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, though, found that 58 percent may qualify for international protection.

Immigration has been a major cause of paralysis in Washington. The Republican Party has been unable to resolve internal divisions over the issue, even as Hispanic voters become a key bloc. Obama, meanwhile, has failed to sway opponents to rewrite laws to manage an undocumented population that has grown to more than 11 million. Republicans blame the second-term Democrat for what they call a porous border and lax enforcement.

The influx of children has intensified the situation. Obama met in Dallas on July 9 with Republican Gov. Rick Perry of Texas and with civic and religious leaders. Before the visit, speculation surrounded whether Perry would make the traditional and symbolic tarmac greeting. He did and a 15-minute meeting ensued aboard the presidential helicopter. The next day, the governor went on national television to criticize Obama for not visiting the border.

For all the political theater, schools are confronting the fallout of the crisis. In farflung cities and towns, a new student population is struggling to adapt to unfamiliar homes and the American education system. All the while, they're trying to persuade officials to let them stay.

Stories of beatings, rapes or extortion suffered in their home countries, during their travels or in the U.S. are widespread, said Debra Duardo, executive director of student health and human services for the Los Angeles Unified School District. Separation anxiety is common.

"There's no way a child is going to be able to come to school ready and able to learn if we don't address some of the other issues they're facing," Duardo said. "Schools are a safe haven."

Many lack immunizations or documentation proving they've had them, she said. While heightened demand crowded the main assessment center where checkups are done, moving it was too expensive, she said.

Soon after border agents detain unaccompanied minors, responsibility for their care falls to the U.S. Office of Refugee Resettlement. The agency's involvement ends when it places children with a relative or other sponsor, said a spokesman, Kenneth Wolfe.

That leaves districts like the Houston Independent School District, Texas's largest, on their own to estimate how many newcomers they'll receive.

Houston is planning for more this year than last year's 910, said Altagracia Guerrero, assistant superintendent of multilingual services. That was nearly double the number it had in 2012, but no one knows how many will show up on the first day of school in August.

Last year's influx helped qualify the district for a $1.6 million federal grant. Guerrero, who's part of a team coordinating a district-wide response, said she'll hire tutors and outreach workers, and educate employees about the surge so they can help students who are a part of it.

"You try to staff as closely to the projection as possible," she said.

Houston has deep experience with Spanish-speakers and sudden influxes of pupils: Hispanics already compose more than 60 percent of its student body, and the district was inundated with children in 2005 after Hurricane Katrina ripped through New Orleans and Mississippi. In Virginia, Fairfax County schools accommodate immigrants and refugees from war-torn countries in the Middle East and Africa. Still, leaders in both places say this crop of students is different.

Having arrived alone, whereas past refugees were more likely to come with family, this group is more vulnerable. Not only do few speak English, some know only indigenous languages for which translators are in short supply. Some are placed with relatives they've never met, while others haven't attended school for years.

Marlon, a 16-year-old Honduran who arrived in the United States alone in February and now lives with relatives in the New Orleans area, said he plans to enroll in school this month. His last name is being withheld because of his age.

"I haven't learned much here, but know with the school I will learn," he said in Spanish. "I think it's good to learn English here."

"If the judge allows me to stay, I can get a job if I speak English, and opportunity."

Schools are often children's initial point of contact with U.S. society, said Christina Wong, special assistant to the superintendent of San Francisco's Unified School District, which last year saw the number of Central American youth more than triple.

The district has "newcomer" programs in six high schools, where counselors connect families and children to organizations that help navigate legal, housing and foster-care systems.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is also offering succor, said Kristyn Peck, who oversees its Department of Children's Services. The group recently began training teachers in Virginia and Maryland on the inner workings of the juvenile immigration system.

One district was Fairfax, which had 5,192 Central American students in June, a 22 percent increase from 2011. As their ranks swelled, Hamby, the family specialist, fielded calls from teachers and social workers who sensed trouble.

"These children were depressed, parents were lost as to why their children didn't listen to them, teachers were dealing with children not just learning English but years below expected grade-slash-achievement level," she said.

Hamby taught staff about the drivers of the exodus: gang violence in Honduras, the collapse of the Guatemalan coffee market. She searched for a curriculum to help parents of newly arriving students, and after finding none, made her own.

Counselors now coach parents on how to connect with their children after years apart, and have them write unwanted feelings on helium balloons and release them into the sky. Hamby said she's applying for grants to fund parent support groups and lobbying for similar help for students.

Hamby's motivation stemmed in part from having been a high- school transplant herself: She moved to Fairfax as a junior from Delaware.

"I spoke the language, I had supportive parents and I still had a traumatic go of it," she said. "Once the kids are here, they're ours. We're going to do what we can for them."

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Posted by: tmvlu ()
Date: July 14, 2014 10:53AM

Why can't Fairfax County plan not to allow the influx of these border crossers like other counties?

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Md-Site-Ruled-Out-for-Immigrant-Children-266933461.html

Md. Site Ruled Out for Immigrant Children
Sunday, Jul 13, 2014 | Updated 1:36 PM ED


The federal government has decided not to use a vacant Army Reserve building in Westminster to temporarily house immigrant children after objections from Carroll County officials.

A spokesman for Maryland Republican Rep. Andy Harris told WBAL Radio that the congressman was notified late Saturday that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services decided not to use the Westminster facility.

Harris, who represents part of Carroll County, joined some county officials in opposing the move. In a statement, Harris said flying the children to Maryland made no sense.

More than 57,000 unaccompanied children have crossed the U.S. border from Central America since October, fleeing violence and extortion in their home countries. The Obama administration has asked Congress for $3.7 billion in emergency funding to cope with the crisis.

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Posted by: hGMCP ()
Date: July 14, 2014 10:55AM

They're doing this to line up these kids with their relatives, so when the Amnesty is granted, both the illegals and their kids get instant citizenship. Errrr...Wrong Obama!

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Penny for Penny's Thoughts ()
Date: July 14, 2014 11:39AM

Because Gerald Connolly told Penny Gross to do it, because Nancy Pelosi told Gerald Connolly to do it, because Barack Obama and Eric Holder told Nancy Pelosi to do it. And, by the way, Democratic congressional candidate John Foust is married to a business partner of Eric Holder's wife. Sure seems like the Obama administration will have a stranglehold on Northern Virginia if the dynamic duo of Connolly and Foust wins in the fall.

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Posted by: Nothing to See Here ()
Date: July 14, 2014 05:21PM

Some Governors aren't even being informed that these border children are being brought into their states!! What is going on?


http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/governors-livid-border-crisis-108835.html

Governors livid over border crisis

By KYLE CHENEY | 7/11/14 7:51 PM EDT
NASHVILLE — The surge of Latin American children trying to cross the U.S. border threatens to strain states’ resources and is testing their already fragile relationship with Washington, governors from both parties warned Friday.

As they gathered here for a meeting of the National Governors Association, the state leaders seethed at what they said was a lack of support and information from the federal government.

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That’s left them groping for solutions to an issue they say combines humanitarian concern for vulnerable children, fears of lax border security and intense election-year politics.

“I found out in the last 48 hours that approximately 200 illegal individuals have been transported to Nebraska [by the federal government],” said Nebraska Gov. Dave Heineman, a Republican, in an interview. “The federal government is complicit in a secret operation to transfer illegal individuals to my state and they won’t tell us who they are.”

(From POLITICO Magazine: Rare interviews with the children of America’s border disaster)

As thousands of unaccompanied minors have flocked to the United States in recent months, primarily from crime-wracked countries such as Guatemala and Honduras, the Obama administration has been sheltering them in federal facilities around the country while they await processing. U.S. Customs and Border Patrol estimates that more than 52,000 have crossed the border since Oct. 1, double the rate from a year earlier.

President Barack Obama has asked Congress for nearly $4 billion to deal with the crisis, and he’s warned parents in the migrants’ countries that their children may be sent back.

Obama’s approach has fractured Democrats’ political unity on the issue.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last month said the U.S. must “send a clear message [that] just because your child gets across the border doesn’t mean your child gets to stay.”

(POLITICO Podcast: Obama's border dilemma)

But on Friday, calls for mass deportation drew a rebuke from Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, a potential rival to Clinton for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.

“I believe it is contrary to everything we believe as a people to summarily send children back to death,” O’Malley said at a press conference here alongside other Democratic governors. He said pictures of the children in the United States, after traveling for miles along dangerous routes, look more like scenes from a “local Humane Society than a humane country.”

Meanwhile, Heineman, a fierce Obama critic, endorsed the president’s message.

“We’re going to treat any person, particularly children, humanely while they’re here,” he said. “They should humanely and expeditiously be returned to their country of origin to their family.”

(Also on POLITICO: Obama's immigration distraction)

He said he’d been on the phone for days with the federal Department of Health and Human Services trying to learn the identity of the children sent to Nebraska and where they’re being housed.

“So far, the secretary’s office is saying they’re not willing to provide us the names of the individuals that the federal government is transporting to my state,” he said.

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin, a Republican whose state is housing 1,100 immigrant children at Fort Sill – just 100 shy of total capacity – said she’s still grasping at the scope of the problem and worried about the conditions the children now face.

“We had one case of chicken pox. We’ve had many cases of scabies and lice,” Fallin said.

(Also on POLITICO: What to know: ‘08 immigration law)

She added that there’s been no guidance about how long the children will be housed, whether they’re entitled to any taxpayer-funded benefits, from education to Medicaid to foster care. And she’s unsure whether they might be “let loose in the United States” once they turn 18.

“Those are all the questions and concerns that governors like myself,” she said. “They are children so we want to treat them very humanely, but we also have a lot of concerns.”

The border crisis was on the tip of nearly every governor’s tongue in the early part of their meeting here, yet the group passed on the chance to grill Vice President Joe Biden on the subject when he appeared before them Friday.

During a question-and-answer session that followed a keynote address by Biden to the governors, the state executives asked him relatively tame questions about workforce development and jobs. And Biden — who also may run for president in 2016 — didn’t refer to the controversial topic, either.

(Also on POLITICO: Perry takes Hannity on border tour)

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, a Democrat, said Congress and the Obama administration need time to develop a “plan of action for the country.” But other Democrats were quick to blame the Republican-led House of Representatives, which they argued had stymied more comprehensive immigration reform efforts.

“There’s a paucity of suggestions on how to deal with this from Republicans, other than to point fingers,” said Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy.

Added Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin: “We have a Congress who refuses to do anything. Full stop.”

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Posted by: Problem solved ()
Date: July 14, 2014 05:31PM

“I believe it is contrary to everything we believe as a people to summarily send children back to death,” O’Malley said at a press conference here alongside other Democratic governors. He said pictures of the children in the United States, after traveling for miles along dangerous routes, look more like scenes from a “local Humane Society than a humane country.”


Cool. Let's send them all to MD then.

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Posted by: MD Govs Mansion has space ()
Date: July 14, 2014 05:45PM

Problem solved Wrote:
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> “I believe it is contrary to everything we
> believe as a people to summarily send children
> back to death,” O’Malley said at a press
> conference here alongside other Democratic
> governors. He said pictures of the children in the
> United States, after traveling for miles along
> dangerous routes, look more like scenes from a
> “local Humane Society than a humane country.”
>
>
> Cool. Let's send them all to MD then.


O'Malley coddles criminals, why wouldn't he do the same for illegals

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Posted by: Charity Begins at Their Home ()
Date: July 14, 2014 08:23PM

Closer and Closer.


Stewart: Immigrant Children Being Housed in Prince William County


Posted: Monday, July 14, 2014 2:54 pm | Updated: 5:48 pm, Mon Jul 14, 2014.
Jill Palermo Prince William Today | 2 comments

Some of the immigrant children showing up unaccompanied at the U.S. border in recent weeks have been transferred to Prince William County, Board of Supervisors Chairman Corey Stewart confirmed Monday.

Stewart, R-At Large, said that an official from Youth for Tomorrow -- a Bristow-based Christian nonprofit that provides housing, education and counseling services to troubled kids -- told him more than a week ago the organization had contracted with federal authorities to provide housing and services for some of the young immigrants being transferred from the southern borders.

Stewart said he’s also “heard rumors” that more children might be housed at the National Guard armory near the Prince William fairgrounds.

But Stewart said he has not visited either the fairgrounds or the Youth For Tomorrow campus and cannot verify whether any children are being housed at the armory or how many are currently staying on the Youth For Tomorrow campus.

InsideNoVA.com contacted Youth For Tomorrow as well as the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services for further information, but messages were not immediately returned.

Stewart said federal officials had not informed county officials of plans to relocate some of the children to Prince William County. He said he will discuss the situation at Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors’ meeting and will ask County Executive Melissa Peacor to investigate how many immigrant children are being housed in the county and under what circumstances.

Stewart also released a statement on his Facebook page Monday stating that no county facilities or resources are being used to help.

“The crisis at the border has again reached Prince William County. Without providing the county any notice, the federal government is now placing illegal immigrant children at private and perhaps federal facilities in our county,” the statement said.

“Although no county facilities are being used to house the children, I will ask the board tomorrow to direct the county executive to attempt to find out more about the location(s) where these children are being held and whether there is anything that the board can do to stop it. While it may seem cold hearted, it is important that these children be sent back home since letting them stay simply entices even more children to attempt the long and dangerous journey to the United States.”

In an interview Monday morning, Stewart said he told Youth for Tomorrow officials he did not support the decision to transfer children to their campus.

“When you look around the county and see the reaction many of our residents have to illegal immigrants, I just thought it was a tinder box,” Stewart said, adding that he believes the assistance sends the wrong message.

“While that might seem like the humanitarian thing to do, it’s sending a signal to others that maybe they should send their children on that long and dangerous trip,” Stewart said. “And that concerns me.”

Stewart said he “feels strongly” that the children should be deported and said he does not plan to visit either the armory or the YFT campus to personally assess the situation.

“I just think it’s going to be heartbreaking,” Stewart said of his decision not to visit either facility. “It’s a cold, hard decision [to call for children to be deported] … and I don’t want to put myself in the position where my personal feelings get in the way of what I need to do as a government official.”

Stewart also strived to distinguish the current crisis at the border with his recent efforts to determine the whereabouts of undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes in the county, calling them “two very different issues.”

During their meeting last week, supervisors voted to issue a Freedom of Information Act request to the federal Department of Homeland Security and the Immigrant and Customs Enforcement division seeking information about the estimated 7,000 undocumented immigrants who have been arrested and found guilty of committing crimes in Prince William County since 2008.

Stewart said he expects county residents to respond thoughtfully to the immigrant children being temporarily housed in the county. But he said he understands the anger some might have about the federal government’s failure adequately to address immigration issues.

“I think there’s a possibility that people are going to be upset but it’s important to keep the focus on who’s at fault,” Steward said, blaming federal officials for insufficient enforcement. “Our residents are educated and reasonable … I’m not worried they are going to be going up there with pitchforks. But they should be angry.”

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: When they turn, duck! ()
Date: July 14, 2014 08:33PM

Inigo Montoya Wrote:
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> Not a good situation Wrote:
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> -----
> > Did I mention how sometimes we come home and
> find
> > spanish people sitting on our deck in our
> > backyard?
>
> These are Spanish people and they don't look like
> they would be any problem. But I don't think
> that's what is really on your deck...


Whoa. Look at that honker on 2 and 3.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Absurd ()
Date: July 15, 2014 09:47PM

Let's not "plan" for any of this-- just inviting trouble.

Lynn officials: Illegal immigrant children are stressing city services

Posted: Jul 14, 2014 5:49 PM EDT
Updated: Jul 14, 2014 6:34 PM EDT

LYNN, Mass. (MyFoxBoston.com) -- Lynn is a municipality on the brink. Key department officials say a recent influx of illegal immigrant children and families in the city is stressing almost every service from trash collection to healthcare.

"We have been aware of the unaccompanied children issue for quite a while, and we were able to absorb a lot of these children early on," said Lynn Mayor Judith Flanagan Kennedy. "But now it's gotten to the point where the school system is overwhelmed, our health department is overwhelmed, the city's budget is being sustainably altered in order of accommodate all of these admissions in the school department."

Flanagan Kennedy says the first contact for immigrant arrivals in the city is the school system.

The amount of new foreign born student admissions has nearly doubled in the last two years. This school year alone saw more than 600 new admissions. Among those students, 248 were from Guatemala. Flanagan Kennedy says of those 248 children, 126 were illegal, undocumented minors.

"They are not literate in any language, so they do need some skills. And I assume they are enrolling in school to receive those skills," said Catherine Latham, Lynn's superintendent of schools

Latham says me the increase in new students has created overcrowding, forced her to hire more staff, and has impacted state testing scores and drop-out numbers.

Latham says that because of the age of some students, reportedly between 16 and 20 years old, they were placed in the ninth grade. Twenty years old is the cut off for high school entrants.

But a report by the National Review Online claims at least two illegal immigrant students in Lynn who claimed to be minors are actually much older adults. That article names two people who were released to family members in Lynn by federal officials.

In a statement to FOX 25 about the article, the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition (MIRA) said, "To focus on a tiny minority of outliers in this group is to risk performing a grave disservice to these young people in need."

"We have no proof that they are much older. So they will come to school. They came, I believe in April or May and enrolled usually in the system as ninth graders," Latham said. "Many of them do two years in the ninth grade."

Though it's difficult, school administrators do attempt to verify a student's age.

"But we are limited by the law," Latham said.

The law states Lynn schools cannot deny enrollment to anybody solely on the basis of not having paperwork. The law also says students have to be vaccinated.

And if any student doesn't have insurance, the city of Lynn picks up the tab for administering the injections.

Public Health Director MaryAnn O'Connor said she estimates the department has seen a 200 percent increase in vaccinations over the last couple years. O'Connor has also had to hire two additional part-time staff members and had to start a tuberculosis clinic for a huge spike in cases over the last two years.

It's created a percent increase in her budget.

"We have line items that we're borrowing from in the health department's budget in order to meet this immediate demand, but somewhere down the line, I'm going to have to deal with finding the money to replace that which has been taken out," Mayor Flanagan Kennedy said.

The mayor also says the solution is to stem the flow of illegal unaccompanied minors coming into her city on a federal level, and provide federal assistance to ease budget constraints.

"The way this is going, Lynn looks like a microcosm of the United States, in that we have been filled to capacity and we can't take anymore without having the people who are already here suffer," she said.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: pennh ()
Date: July 23, 2015 09:54PM

isnt she the pricnia

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Diehard Liberal ()
Date: July 24, 2015 06:46AM

Penny must not be getting any, and having seen the stats on their tendencies, is probably hoping to get raped by an illegal.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Rocco ()
Date: July 26, 2015 06:13PM

Penny should be put out to pasture, the old cow that she is.

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: JCdwd ()
Date: July 30, 2015 12:30PM

I was watching a BOS hearing yesterday - is she the bald one?

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Re: Why is Penny Gross, Mason District Supervisor, asking the County Executive to look into planning for the unaccompained illegals within Fairfax County?
Posted by: Augiedog ()
Date: August 01, 2015 08:54PM

Yea she's the bald one. I watched one of the late night meetings and she managed to fall asleep. I guess it is easier to re-elect the lazy then look for a better option.

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