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Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
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News Patrol!
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Date: July 01, 2014 09:11AM
Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
In 1905, Albert Einstein calculated that the speed of light - thought to travel at 186,282 miles per second (299,792 km per second) - remains constant when travelling through a vacuum.
He also argued that, in theory, nothing can travel faster than light.
While this has been accepted for over a century, a controversial new study suggests Einstein was in fact wrong, and that the speed of light is slower than we think.
The study was conducted by Baltimore-based physicist, James Franson, who looked at why light particles of supernova SN 1987A arrived 4.7 hours later than expected.
The star’s collapse, which was seen from Earth in 1987, triggered a burst of neutrinos - an electrically neutral, weakly interacting elementary subatomic particle.
According to Einstein, this should have happened roughly three hours before a burst of optical light - and from that moment on, the pulses should have kept pace, both travelling at the speed of light.
However, the optical light arrived roughly 7.7 hours after the neutrinos - or 4.7 hours late.
The University of Maryland physicist believes the delay could have been because the light was in fact slowed as it travelled due to something known as 'vacuum polarisation'.
During this phenomenon, photons break down to something known as ‘positrons’ and electrons for a split second. before combining together again.
When they split, quantum mechanics creates a gravitational potential between the pair of ‘virtual’ particles.
Dr Franson argues that the process might have a gradual impact on the speed of the photon, meaning that over 168,000 light years, the photons may have suffered a near five-hour delay.
If the physicist is correct, it means scientists have to recalculate everything from our distance to the sun to some of the most distant objects seen in other galaxies.
Dr Franson’s paper has been submitted to the New Journal of Physics and is currently undergoing peer review.
In 1905, Albert Einstein calculated that the speed of light remains at a constant 186,282 miles per second (299,792 km per second) when travelling through a vacuum. While this theory has been accepted for over a century, a controversial new study now suggests Einstein was in fact wrong. The study was conducted by Baltimore-based physicist James Franson who looked at why light particles of supernova SN 1987A (pictured), which exploded in 1987, arrived 4.7 hours later than expected.
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In 1905, Albert Einstein calculated that the speed of light - thought to travel at 186,282 miles per second (299,792 km per second) - remains constant when travelling through a vacuum.
He also argued that, in theory, nothing can travel faster than light.
While this has been accepted for over a century, a controversial new study suggests Einstein was in fact wrong, and that the speed of light is slower than we think.
The study was conducted by Baltimore-based physicist, James Franson, who looked at why light particles of supernova SN 1987A arrived 4.7 hours later than expected.
The star’s collapse, which was seen from Earth in 1987, triggered a burst of neutrinos - an electrically neutral, weakly interacting elementary subatomic particle.
According to Einstein, this should have happened roughly three hours before a burst of optical light - and from that moment on, the pulses should have kept pace, both travelling at the speed of light.
However, the optical light arrived roughly 7.7 hours after the neutrinos - or 4.7 hours late.
The University of Maryland physicist believes the delay could have been because the light was in fact slowed as it travelled due to something known as 'vacuum polarisation'.
During this phenomenon, photons break down to something known as ‘positrons’ and electrons for a split second. before combining together again.
When they split, quantum mechanics creates a gravitational potential between the pair of ‘virtual’ particles.
Dr Franson argues that the process might have a gradual impact on the speed of the photon, meaning that over 168,000 light years, the photons may have suffered a near five-hour delay.
If the physicist is correct, it means scientists have to recalculate everything from our distance to the sun to some of the most distant objects seen in other galaxies.
Dr Franson’s paper has been submitted to the New Journal of Physics and is currently undergoing peer review.
In 1905, Albert Einstein calculated that the speed of light remains at a constant 186,282 miles per second (299,792 km per second) when travelling through a vacuum. While this theory has been accepted for over a century, a controversial new study now suggests Einstein was in fact wrong. The study was conducted by Baltimore-based physicist James Franson who looked at why light particles of supernova SN 1987A (pictured), which exploded in 1987, arrived 4.7 hours later than expected.
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Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
Greybeard
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Date: July 01, 2014 06:32PM
And this is on topic because...ah, I get it, there are lights in Fairfax County?
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
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eyes
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Date: July 01, 2014 06:58PM
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
Who
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Date: July 01, 2014 06:59PM
Who is Albert Einstein?
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
Independent
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:14PM
Too bad that assertion has yet to be peer reviewed and I expect it to be shot down once it has.
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
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Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:18PM
Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not interact much with other matters hence they arrive at Fairfax county after they were released. Photons on the other hand have to take a long time to escape the surface of the supernova hence the delay.
Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax discussion.
Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax discussion.
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
eesh
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:22PM
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
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> Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> interact much with other matters hence they arrive
> at Fairfax county after they were released.
> Photons on the other hand have to take a long time
> to escape the surface of the supernova hence the
> delay.
>
> Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> discussion.
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> Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> interact much with other matters hence they arrive
> at Fairfax county after they were released.
> Photons on the other hand have to take a long time
> to escape the surface of the supernova hence the
> delay.
>
> Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> discussion.
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Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
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ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?!
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:25PM
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
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> Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> interact much with other matters hence they arrive
> at Fairfax county after they were released.
> Photons on the other hand have to take a long time
> to escape the surface of the supernova hence the
> delay.
>
> Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> discussion.
You know intellectualism is frowned up on here...what's wrong with you!!!!
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> Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> interact much with other matters hence they arrive
> at Fairfax county after they were released.
> Photons on the other hand have to take a long time
> to escape the surface of the supernova hence the
> delay.
>
> Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> discussion.
You know intellectualism is frowned up on here...what's wrong with you!!!!
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Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
bumper zzz
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:26PM
*frowned upon...FIFY
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
kvkLT
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:27PM
I'll bring this back to FU.
If Albert Einstein were alive today, the Liberal Democrats wouldn't let him teach high school, because he doesn't have his Teaching Certificate.
If Albert Einstein were alive today, the Liberal Democrats wouldn't let him teach high school, because he doesn't have his Teaching Certificate.
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:28PM
ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?! Wrote:
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> Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > interact much with other matters hence they
> arrive
> > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > Photons on the other hand have to take a long
> time
> > to escape the surface of the supernova hence
> the
> > delay.
> >
> > Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> > discussion.
>
>
> You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> here...what's wrong with you!!!!
Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third grade where I came from.
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> Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > interact much with other matters hence they
> arrive
> > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > Photons on the other hand have to take a long
> time
> > to escape the surface of the supernova hence
> the
> > delay.
> >
> > Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> > discussion.
>
>
> You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> here...what's wrong with you!!!!
Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third grade where I came from.
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
like this is worth debating
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Date: July 01, 2014 07:59PM
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
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> ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > > interact much with other matters hence they
> > arrive
> > > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > > Photons on the other hand have to take a long
> > time
> > > to escape the surface of the supernova hence
> > the
> > > delay.
> > >
> > > Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> > > discussion.
> >
> >
> > You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> > here...what's wrong with you!!!!
>
> Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third
> grade where I came from.
what school?
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> ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > > interact much with other matters hence they
> > arrive
> > > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > > Photons on the other hand have to take a long
> > time
> > > to escape the surface of the supernova hence
> > the
> > > delay.
> > >
> > > Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> > > discussion.
> >
> >
> > You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> > here...what's wrong with you!!!!
>
> Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third
> grade where I came from.
what school?
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
Independent
()
Date: July 01, 2014 09:30PM
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
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> ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > > interact much with other matters hence they
> > arrive
> > > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > > Photons on the other hand have to take a long
> > time
> > > to escape the surface of the supernova hence
> > the
> > > delay.
> > >
> > > Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> > > discussion.
> >
> >
> > You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> > here...what's wrong with you!!!!
>
> Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third
> grade where I came from.
Pshhh...I learned it in 2nd grade. Besides, stuff like this goes over a majority of people's heads to begin with. If it doesn't involve aliens or M-Theory, people tune out.
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> ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > > interact much with other matters hence they
> > arrive
> > > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > > Photons on the other hand have to take a long
> > time
> > > to escape the surface of the supernova hence
> > the
> > > delay.
> > >
> > > Now back to regular racist homophobia Fairfax
> > > discussion.
> >
> >
> > You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> > here...what's wrong with you!!!!
>
> Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third
> grade where I came from.
Pshhh...I learned it in 2nd grade. Besides, stuff like this goes over a majority of people's heads to begin with. If it doesn't involve aliens or M-Theory, people tune out.
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
Offtopic Nazi
()
Date: July 02, 2014 06:33AM
This thread needs to be moved to Offtopic immediately because logic, psychics, and education have nothing to do with Fairfax County.
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
Al Zweistein
()
Date: July 02, 2014 07:40AM
Independent Wrote:
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> Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > > > interact much with other matters hence they
> > > arrive
> > > > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > > > Photons on the other hand have to take a
> long
> > > time
> > > > to escape the surface of the supernova
> hence
> > > the
> > > > delay.
> > > >
> > > > Now back to regular racist homophobia
> Fairfax
> > > > discussion.
> > >
> > >
> > > You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> > > here...what's wrong with you!!!!
> >
> > Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third
> > grade where I came from.
>
>
> Pshhh...I learned it in 2nd grade. Besides, stuff
> like this goes over a majority of people's heads
> to begin with. If it doesn't involve aliens or
> M-Theory, people tune out.
2nd grade? Was that a school for the slow and retarded? We covered this shit in preschool!
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> Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!?!?!?!?! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Here is an answer for you. Neutrino do not
> > > > interact much with other matters hence they
> > > arrive
> > > > at Fairfax county after they were released.
> > > > Photons on the other hand have to take a
> long
> > > time
> > > > to escape the surface of the supernova
> hence
> > > the
> > > > delay.
> > > >
> > > > Now back to regular racist homophobia
> Fairfax
> > > > discussion.
> > >
> > >
> > > You know intellectualism is frowned up on
> > > here...what's wrong with you!!!!
> >
> > Intellectualism? This stuff is taught in third
> > grade where I came from.
>
>
> Pshhh...I learned it in 2nd grade. Besides, stuff
> like this goes over a majority of people's heads
> to begin with. If it doesn't involve aliens or
> M-Theory, people tune out.
2nd grade? Was that a school for the slow and retarded? We covered this shit in preschool!
Re: Was Einstein wrong all along? Controversial theory suggests the speed of light is SLOWER than we think
Posted by:
hoaxxx
()
Date: July 02, 2014 08:25AM
Einstein is an Obama-sponsored hoax.