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Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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No More Safe Trails In Fairfax
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Date: February 21, 2020 02:12PM
You will not be legally able to drive into any park with a legally concealed handgun permit if this passes the Democrat controlled house soon .
This unconstitutionally act will criminalize law abiding citizens and put all others at great risk of terror attacks in the Nations Capitol area , as the law abiding concealed gun holders are too often the only legally armed persons in these areas except criminals . Banning persons from carrying firearms in public buildings is one thing, now to say no guns are allowed in the parking lots or vehicles even if they lock them in the trunks of their cars is complete irresponsible hatred and disregard for the publics safety
I expect Fairfax to place several dozen armed police constantly at every FCPA rec center and parks to protect us from now on if this act passes , you will not be able to walk on a trail legally armed.
This bill is a RAPIST Relief ACT ! Virginias parks will now be to dangerous to go to as havens for RAPISTS ROBBERS AND KILLERS Even In The US Federal parks you may carry concealed for your personal protection
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUE WITH LAW ABIDING PEOPLE LEGALLY ARMED IN PARKS IN FAIRFAX
THIS ACT DOES NOT PROTECT ANYONE ! IT ENDANGERES ALL legally
SB 35 was voted yea in the Virginia Senate by Fairfaxs Democrats and will soon be voted on in the Virginia House Contact them and tell them NO To This Rapist Assault Bill
SB 35 sent to the Va House now to be voted upon by the House maybe Monday
E. Notwithstanding the provisions of this section, a locality may adopt an ordinance that prohibits the possession, carrying, or transportation of any firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof (i) in any building, or part thereof, owned or used by such locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality, for governmental purposes; (ii) in any public park owned by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality; (iii) in any recreation or community center facility operated by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality; or (iv) in any public street, road, alley, or sidewalk or public right-of-way or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public and is being used by or is adjacent to a permitted event or an event that would otherwise require a permit. In buildings that are not owned by a locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality, such ordinance shall apply only to the part of the building that is being used for a governmental purpose and when such building, or part thereof, is being used for a governmental purpose.
Any such ordinance may include security measures that are designed to reasonably prevent the unauthorized access of such buildings, parks, recreation or community center facilities, or public streets, roads, alleys, or sidewalks or public rights-of-way or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public and is being used by or is adjacent to a permitted event or an event that would otherwise require a permit by a person with any firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, such as the use of metal detectors and increased use of security personnel.
F. Notice of any ordinance adopted pursuant to subsection E shall be posted (i) at all entrances of any building, or part thereof, owned or used by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality, for governmental purposes; (ii) at all entrances of any public park owned by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality; (iii) at all entrances of any recreation or community center facilities operated by the locality, or by any authority or local
This unconstitutionally act will criminalize law abiding citizens and put all others at great risk of terror attacks in the Nations Capitol area , as the law abiding concealed gun holders are too often the only legally armed persons in these areas except criminals . Banning persons from carrying firearms in public buildings is one thing, now to say no guns are allowed in the parking lots or vehicles even if they lock them in the trunks of their cars is complete irresponsible hatred and disregard for the publics safety
I expect Fairfax to place several dozen armed police constantly at every FCPA rec center and parks to protect us from now on if this act passes , you will not be able to walk on a trail legally armed.
This bill is a RAPIST Relief ACT ! Virginias parks will now be to dangerous to go to as havens for RAPISTS ROBBERS AND KILLERS Even In The US Federal parks you may carry concealed for your personal protection
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUE WITH LAW ABIDING PEOPLE LEGALLY ARMED IN PARKS IN FAIRFAX
THIS ACT DOES NOT PROTECT ANYONE ! IT ENDANGERES ALL legally
SB 35 was voted yea in the Virginia Senate by Fairfaxs Democrats and will soon be voted on in the Virginia House Contact them and tell them NO To This Rapist Assault Bill
SB 35 sent to the Va House now to be voted upon by the House maybe Monday
E. Notwithstanding the provisions of this section, a locality may adopt an ordinance that prohibits the possession, carrying, or transportation of any firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof (i) in any building, or part thereof, owned or used by such locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality, for governmental purposes; (ii) in any public park owned by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality; (iii) in any recreation or community center facility operated by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality; or (iv) in any public street, road, alley, or sidewalk or public right-of-way or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public and is being used by or is adjacent to a permitted event or an event that would otherwise require a permit. In buildings that are not owned by a locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality, such ordinance shall apply only to the part of the building that is being used for a governmental purpose and when such building, or part thereof, is being used for a governmental purpose.
Any such ordinance may include security measures that are designed to reasonably prevent the unauthorized access of such buildings, parks, recreation or community center facilities, or public streets, roads, alleys, or sidewalks or public rights-of-way or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public and is being used by or is adjacent to a permitted event or an event that would otherwise require a permit by a person with any firearms, ammunition, or components or combination thereof, such as the use of metal detectors and increased use of security personnel.
F. Notice of any ordinance adopted pursuant to subsection E shall be posted (i) at all entrances of any building, or part thereof, owned or used by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality, for governmental purposes; (ii) at all entrances of any public park owned by the locality, or by any authority or local governmental entity created or controlled by the locality; (iii) at all entrances of any recreation or community center facilities operated by the locality, or by any authority or local
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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nigga please
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Date: February 21, 2020 03:28PM
I carry everywhere. No one knows and no one does shit about it.
If libtards want to ignore laws, so can we. Fuck'em.
If libtards want to ignore laws, so can we. Fuck'em.
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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KindOfButNo
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Date: February 21, 2020 07:08PM
No More Safe Trails In Fairfax Wrote:
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> This unconstitutionally act will criminalize law
> abiding citizens
Well, it's true that it's unconstitutional. But it's not true that it will criminalize law abiding citizens, as ordinances aren't criminal offenses.
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> This unconstitutionally act will criminalize law
> abiding citizens
Well, it's true that it's unconstitutional. But it's not true that it will criminalize law abiding citizens, as ordinances aren't criminal offenses.
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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A Very Bad Law From Democrats
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Date: February 21, 2020 07:43PM
Their giving Fairfax and all other counties cities towns authority of law with penalties where there's no existing problem in Fairfax with people with a CCW or anywhere else in Virginia , its going to be a very bad unconstitutional law if it passes without a CCW exception or at least allowing the guns to be locked in a vehicle when going into a park
Just more typical overplaying of their hand which will destroy them in 2020 and 2021 as issues like this cross party lines
It could be a class 1 misdemeanor up to a year in jail for exercising your constitutional rights to walk on a public trail safely that your tax money pays for. It will make parks much more dangerous especially trails
§ 15.2-1429. Penalties for violation of ordinances.
Any locality may prescribe fines and other punishments for violations of ordinances, which shall be enforced by proceedings as if such violations were misdemeanors. However, no fine or term of confinement for the violation of ordinances shall exceed the penalties provided by general law for the violation of a Class 1 misdemeanor, and such penalties shall not exceed those penalties prescribed by general law for like offenses.
Code 1950, §§ 15-8, 15-77.64; 1954, c. 529; 1956, cc. 218, 664; 1956, Ex. Sess., c. 40; 1958, cc. 279, 328; 1960, c. 606; 1962, c. 623, § 15.1-505, 15.1-901; 1974, c. 598; 1976, c. 582; 1978, c. 150; 1991, cc. 25, 609, 710; 1997, c. 587.
Just more typical overplaying of their hand which will destroy them in 2020 and 2021 as issues like this cross party lines
It could be a class 1 misdemeanor up to a year in jail for exercising your constitutional rights to walk on a public trail safely that your tax money pays for. It will make parks much more dangerous especially trails
§ 15.2-1429. Penalties for violation of ordinances.
Any locality may prescribe fines and other punishments for violations of ordinances, which shall be enforced by proceedings as if such violations were misdemeanors. However, no fine or term of confinement for the violation of ordinances shall exceed the penalties provided by general law for the violation of a Class 1 misdemeanor, and such penalties shall not exceed those penalties prescribed by general law for like offenses.
Code 1950, §§ 15-8, 15-77.64; 1954, c. 529; 1956, cc. 218, 664; 1956, Ex. Sess., c. 40; 1958, cc. 279, 328; 1960, c. 606; 1962, c. 623, § 15.1-505, 15.1-901; 1974, c. 598; 1976, c. 582; 1978, c. 150; 1991, cc. 25, 609, 710; 1997, c. 587.
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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No Retired Police Exemption
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Date: February 21, 2020 08:06PM
Retired police can carry concealed in any state by federal law but only where CCW is legal not anywhere that sworn police can carry
More reckless stupidity by Democrats for now
More reckless stupidity by Democrats for now
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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From The State On New Laws
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Date: February 21, 2020 08:11PM
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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3 Words That Will Screw Them
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Date: February 21, 2020 08:27PM
SB 35 "That prevents an employee of that locality or any person from storing at that locality's workplace a lawfully possessed firearm and ammunition in a locked private motor vehicle. Nothing in this section shall prohibit a law-enforcement officer, as "
They did not put "or any person" in the bill that would allow a firearm lawfully possessed to be kept in a locked private motor vehicle by any person
SB 35 is an UNCONSTITUTIONAL INFRINGEMENT without such language inserted into the bill and will be struck down if anyone is arrested that lawfully possesses a firearm that is in a locked private motor vehicle
They did not put "or any person" in the bill that would allow a firearm lawfully possessed to be kept in a locked private motor vehicle by any person
SB 35 is an UNCONSTITUTIONAL INFRINGEMENT without such language inserted into the bill and will be struck down if anyone is arrested that lawfully possesses a firearm that is in a locked private motor vehicle
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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Probably Causes/ Pissed Off Cops
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Date: February 22, 2020 09:52PM
If your parked in the lot how are cops going to come up with a probably cause to search for a gun locked in your car unless your start screaming at people "Ive Got A Gun in My Car and Im going to kill you " or your peddling drugs or robbing people or something equally crazy . If you enter a building they may have surprise metal detectors
In two years this will be gone as Dems will take a bath in 2020 and 21 impeaching and overreaching and lose it all
Cop who are retired are going to raise hell as they did not get exempted by this unconstitutional Virginia act and the LEOSA has exemptions that disallow carrying concealed by retirees in school zones public parks ,public buildings airports and more that prohibit concealed carry
In any event The LEOSA is a unconstitutional act itself as it creates a super 1st class of citizenship with a superior right to the citizen which they are to 2nd amendment rights
The constitution gives them no such authority, nor does it allow congress to make such a special class of citizens active sworn police are government agents not retired who are employed full or part time
Also federal law allows transport in any state of a firearm if the owner can legally posses it in their home state and its locked unloaded in a area not accessible to the driver , you have a right to stop in a park to take a shit or piss ask directions or ask for help or call for assistance with car troubles or a thousand other things
In two years this will be gone as Dems will take a bath in 2020 and 21 impeaching and overreaching and lose it all
Cop who are retired are going to raise hell as they did not get exempted by this unconstitutional Virginia act and the LEOSA has exemptions that disallow carrying concealed by retirees in school zones public parks ,public buildings airports and more that prohibit concealed carry
In any event The LEOSA is a unconstitutional act itself as it creates a super 1st class of citizenship with a superior right to the citizen which they are to 2nd amendment rights
The constitution gives them no such authority, nor does it allow congress to make such a special class of citizens active sworn police are government agents not retired who are employed full or part time
Also federal law allows transport in any state of a firearm if the owner can legally posses it in their home state and its locked unloaded in a area not accessible to the driver , you have a right to stop in a park to take a shit or piss ask directions or ask for help or call for assistance with car troubles or a thousand other things
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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LEOSA
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Date: February 22, 2020 10:27PM
Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers_Safety_Act
No concealed carrying in exempted areas for retired cops as they have no law enforcement authority that is superior to any other citizen
Another of Bush 43's unconstitutional acts as president he's not been called on yet
If LEOSA was amended to include any law abiding citizen who possesses a conceal handgun permit it would not create a special super class or 2nd amendment rights to such super citizens, and they called it "The Citizens Safety Act" CSA LOL it would be constitutional
As it stands there's constant confusion with this LEOSA act as to whom qualifies as a law enforcement officer or retired law enforcement officer
https://daiglelawgroup.com/leosa-state-by-state-why-are-retired-police-officers-having-problems/
BTW Retired police can not possess machine guns suppressors or destructive device unless other wise authorized by law as special tax stamp holders ie: owners of federal registered class III weapons and devices, citizens are the same .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers_Safety_Act
No concealed carrying in exempted areas for retired cops as they have no law enforcement authority that is superior to any other citizen
Another of Bush 43's unconstitutional acts as president he's not been called on yet
If LEOSA was amended to include any law abiding citizen who possesses a conceal handgun permit it would not create a special super class or 2nd amendment rights to such super citizens, and they called it "The Citizens Safety Act" CSA LOL it would be constitutional
As it stands there's constant confusion with this LEOSA act as to whom qualifies as a law enforcement officer or retired law enforcement officer
https://daiglelawgroup.com/leosa-state-by-state-why-are-retired-police-officers-having-problems/
BTW Retired police can not possess machine guns suppressors or destructive device unless other wise authorized by law as special tax stamp holders ie: owners of federal registered class III weapons and devices, citizens are the same .
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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Constitutional Schooler
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Date: February 25, 2020 10:19AM
SB35 has commas after each sentence which describes its authority, then it ends with the part about permitted events and then the metal detectors and security
It looks like it only gives authority to ban guns in the areas listed when permitted events take place at the sites not 24/7 so the governor does not have to make last minute declarations of no guns all over the state like in Richmond and before Charlottesville at any permitted event big or small
WTOP did say its to ban guns at permitted events but FXU needs a real lawyer to explain as Im just a jailhouse type
It looks like it only gives authority to ban guns in the areas listed when permitted events take place at the sites not 24/7 so the governor does not have to make last minute declarations of no guns all over the state like in Richmond and before Charlottesville at any permitted event big or small
WTOP did say its to ban guns at permitted events but FXU needs a real lawyer to explain as Im just a jailhouse type
Re: Enter All Fairfax Parks At Your Own RISK They will Soon Be Rapist Havens And Robber Roosts For Killers
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IT Bans Both
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Date: February 25, 2020 10:31AM
Guns at permitted events and in publiuc buildings and parks . Its a law that has nbo reason to exist to suppress the right of the people to bear arms even wi8th a CCW permit for their safety
The Virginia Citizen Defense League explanation
SB 35, Senator Surovell, allows localities to prohibit the carry of firearms or ammunition at any permitted event, or any event that would otherwise require a permit. It also allows localities to prohibit the carry of firearms into local government buildings and parks. This legislation is a solution in search of a problem. The only casualties in recent memory at a permitted event were the victims of the intentional misuse of a vehicle as a weapon, yet no ban has been proposed for vehicles at permitted events. Current laws already cover any crimes that can be committed at such events. The only incident in a local government building was a disgruntled employee that murdered co-workers in a gun-free zone. Disarming the law abiding does NOT make them safer. SB 35 is a solution in search of a problem. It is an unjustified restriction on law-abiding gun owners.
The Virginia Citizen Defense League explanation
SB 35, Senator Surovell, allows localities to prohibit the carry of firearms or ammunition at any permitted event, or any event that would otherwise require a permit. It also allows localities to prohibit the carry of firearms into local government buildings and parks. This legislation is a solution in search of a problem. The only casualties in recent memory at a permitted event were the victims of the intentional misuse of a vehicle as a weapon, yet no ban has been proposed for vehicles at permitted events. Current laws already cover any crimes that can be committed at such events. The only incident in a local government building was a disgruntled employee that murdered co-workers in a gun-free zone. Disarming the law abiding does NOT make them safer. SB 35 is a solution in search of a problem. It is an unjustified restriction on law-abiding gun owners.