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FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Benjamin B P ()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:08PM

fwivey@fcps.edu

Contact fwivey@fcps.edu and ask her why she didn't postpone this trip (boondoggle) and
keep her Administrators in the classroom the last three days of school!

Budget shortfall? I think not!

Dr. Frances W Ivey is taking a group of Administrators to a conference in Florida on the
last three days of school. FCPS, in a financial crisis, is paying round trip airfare to
Florida, salaries, and all accommodations for this Boon Doggle.

As a parent, I am sickened that the principal of my school will not be at school on the
23, 24, and 25th of June. My kids have to make up the snow days; they will spend two
to three hours locked in a hot stuffy gym, at High School. My fourth grade child has
helped the classroom teacher pack up this week. No learning is going on. Why did they
extend school for our kids, but the Administrators and higher ups get to go to Florida
and party?

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Principal not there 4 kids ()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:17PM

Interesting news, if true.

When the County added 3 more days to our school year, why didn't this trip get postponed? I had plans, but was told to alter mine; I could take leave but had to have a sub lined up.


How many Principals and Admins are going to Florida from Cluster V?

Our Administrators need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

Shame on them for wasting taxpayers money on a trip to Florida.
None of us should show up to school next Mon., Tues., or Weds.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Sassypants ()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:17PM

How about you contact your state rep and complain that children do nothing after the SOL window closes so Kings Dominion and other amusement parks can take money off of Virginia's late stat to the school year. Not only does it cause VA students to start several weeks later than the other 49 states it leaves students with less time to prepare for AP/IB tests and nothing to do for 3 weeks after the SOL window closes in May.

Amusement parks are more important than your kids in politicians eyes.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Concerned about budget ()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:21PM

Give me the email addresses and point if contacts.
I will email not about K.D. Labor laws, but about the huge budget shortfall and the wasted money on trips.
Let them have the meetings at GMU conference center once kids are dismissed!



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> How about you contact your state rep and complain
> that children do nothing after the SOL window
> closes so Kings Dominion and other amusement parks
> can take money off of Virginia's late stat to the
> school year. Not only does it cause VA students to
> start several weeks later than the other 49 states
> it leaves students with less time to prepare for
> AP/IB tests and nothing to do for 3 weeks after
> the SOL window closes in May.
>
> Amusement parks are more important than your kids
> in politicians eyes.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Commonsense ()
Date: June 19, 2014 05:48PM

Congratulations to all FCPS graduating seniors. Best of luck in the future.

Leaving their accomplishment aside, it is pretty clear that this year has devolved into farce in Fairfax County. It is what happens when administrators let bureaucratic imperatives drive decisions instead of putting education first.

Schools start late and have numerous non-teaching days on the schedule, disrupting learning. One of my kids' teachers once said that MLK Day to spring break was great because it was the one time in the school year that students went several weeks in a row with only a day or two off. Seems like it might be a good idea to offer students more continuity.

School administrators clearly signal that they are not serious when they meet mandatory numbers for school days with drop off-pick up days that are just a couple of hours long. Teachers are telling kids not to come to school. What message does that send kids?

SOL testing creates box checking: numbers good no worries. The schedule creates box checking. We went the right number of days, regardless of what happens in the classroom.

It appears, according to this report, that some administrators are demonstrating how seriously they take educating their students: taking off to Florida at taxpayer expense during the school year (when the schedule allows summer and numerous, numerous professional development days.

FCPS is lucky to have many bright, well-prepared students, because the system itself can't really claim to be anything special.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: reality ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:02PM

This smells of BS. Unless there are some names, this "rumor" can be dismissed.

The Superintendent already put the nix on all this sort of travel

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: it all about the children ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:17PM

reality Wrote:
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> This smells of BS. Unless there are some names,
> this "rumor" can be dismissed.
>
> The Superintendent already put the nix on all this
> sort of travel


This only scratching the surface, ask about the FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin auditors

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Lynbrook Principal ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:30PM

Not BS

Mary McNamee at Lynbrook ES will not be at school next week. It is because a conference was scheduled by Dr. F. Ivey.




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> reality Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This smells of BS. Unless there are some names,
> > this "rumor" can be dismissed.
> >
> > The Superintendent already put the nix on all
> this
> > sort of travel
>
>
> This only scratching the surface, ask about the
> FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark
> Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin
> auditors

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Save taxpayer dollars ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:36PM

Frances W. Ivey is the person listed in the OP's post.







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> Not BS
>
> Mary McNamee at Lynbrook ES will not be at school
> next week. It is because a conference was
> scheduled by Dr. F. Ivey.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > reality Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > This smells of BS. Unless there are some
> names,
> > > this "rumor" can be dismissed.
> > >
> > > The Superintendent already put the nix on all
> > this
> > > sort of travel
> >
> >
> > This only scratching the surface, ask about the
> > FCPS catered affair at the atrium at Meadowlark
> > Gardens. Auditors, we don't need no stinkin
> > auditors

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: class size doesn't matter ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:37PM

This is why the meals tax won't pass

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: disgusto ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:40PM

This is a bunch of unsubstantiated trolling. One name does not a conference make. And class size does matter--classes of 31 mean your kid gets zero attention

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Golden ones ()
Date: June 19, 2014 07:23PM

Frances W. Ivey



-------------------------------------------------------
> fwivey@fcps.edu
>
> Contact fwivey@fcps.edu and ask her why she didn't
> postpone this trip (boondoggle) and
> keep her Administrators in the classroom the last
> three days of school!
>
> Budget shortfall? I think not!
>
> Dr. Frances W Ivey is taking a group of
> Administrators to a conference in Florida on the
> last three days of school. FCPS, in a financial
> crisis, is paying round trip airfare to
> Florida, salaries, and all accommodations for this
> Boon Doggle.
>
> As a parent, I am sickened that the principal of
> my school will not be at school on the
> 23, 24, and 25th of June. My kids have to make
> up the snow days; they will spend two
> to three hours locked in a hot stuffy gym, at High
> School. My fourth grade child has
> helped the classroom teacher pack up this week.
> No learning is going on. Why did they
> extend school for our kids, but the Administrators
> and higher ups get to go to Florida
> and party?

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Bump I'm Mom of 3 ()
Date: June 19, 2014 08:24PM

For the .mom of three.


I agree with you.
School should end 20 June. Period!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Congratulations to all FCPS graduating seniors.
> Best of luck in the future.
>
> Leaving their accomplishment aside, it is pretty
> clear that this year has devolved into farce in
> Fairfax County. It is what happens when
> administrators let bureaucratic imperatives drive
> decisions instead of putting education first.
>
> Schools start late and have numerous non-teaching
> days on the schedule, disrupting learning. One of
> my kids' teachers once said that MLK Day to spring
> break was great because it was the one time in the
> school year that students went several weeks in a
> row with only a day or two off. Seems like it
> might be a good idea to offer students more
> continuity.
>
> School administrators clearly signal that they are
> not serious when they meet mandatory numbers for
> school days with drop off-pick up days that are
> just a couple of hours long. Teachers are telling
> kids not to come to school. What message does that
> send kids?
>
> SOL testing creates box checking: numbers good no
> worries. The schedule creates box checking. We
> went the right number of days, regardless of what
> happens in the classroom.
>
> It appears, according to this report, that some
> administrators are demonstrating how seriously
> they take educating their students: taking off to
> Florida at taxpayer expense during the school year
> (when the schedule allows summer and numerous,
> numerous professional development days.
>
> FCPS is lucky to have many bright, well-prepared
> students, because the system itself can't really
> claim to be anything special.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: True ()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:10PM

It's true.

There are a LOT of administrators countywide attending a conference June 23-25. I didn't know it was in Florida, but it did bug me that: 1. They're not at school during sone of the most behaviorally challenging days of the school year, and 2. Not a very politically savvy thing to do when the school board is faced with cuts to programs and personnel to send a lot of people to a 3-day conference.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Retardz unite ()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:12PM

Can the Retardz figure out a solution, they are the smart ones

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: This is probably it ()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:37PM


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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Fed up geez ()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:02PM

How can they justify this?

Walk the walk and be in school for the kids, teachers, and community.

> It's true.

There are a LOT of administrators countywide attending a conference June 23-25. I didn't know it was in Florida, but it did bug me that: 1. They're not at school during sone of the most behaviorally challenging days of the school year, and 2. Not a very politically savvy thing to do when the school board is faced with cuts to programs and personnel to send a lot of people to a 3-day conference.



>
> http://www.cvent.com/events/22nd-annual-model-scho
> ols-conference/event-summary-6616a1a49681447aa6508
> 967e90f3f61.aspx?RefID=LeaderED&ct=59458a8c-b962-4
>
>
>
> Notice that a district in Wisconsin came under
> fire for going to this:
>
>
> http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&;
> SubSectionID=9&ArticleID=16150

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Washington Post ()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:08PM

Surprising the press hasn't caught wind of this yet.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Honestly ()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:19PM

I read the link to the conference by "This is probably it" (Thank you).

If this is the conference, they really know how to sling educational buzzwords. Do Fairfax County taxpayers have to pay extra per buzzword.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: County Employee ()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:53PM

They're going to tax you regardless, who cares if they go to a conference? The link looks legit to me.

Rules are rules with the school days. Being an elementary school teacher I can tell you 2/3 of the school's students have already done the paper work to state they are coming in next week and no one cares. What do you want the county to say? Yes, it is a meaningless few days, but your taxes are paying for child care and it is optional whether the child attends or not. If you don't like it keep them home, if you want to send them away for a few hours send them in.

It is amazing how obnoxious parents can be with their constant whining and nagging.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: #Buzzword ()
Date: June 19, 2014 10:56PM

You should be less concerned about the spending for a few days in Florida and more concerned about the ever increasing costs of trying to educate all these poor third world kids coming into our system. I'm not blaming them, but it's not like they make things easy either. ESOL programs, special assistants, special menus, and let us not forget we now have an entirely new group for the "achievement gap". Way to fucking go America.

Besides, it's not like your job never gave you anything nice for being a good employee. But maybe I'm in a minority in that I have an employer who treats me well because I bust my ass for them.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Modelschools ()
Date: June 19, 2014 11:27PM

Our principal said he was attending a "leadership conference" during the last three days of school, too, but didn't mention it was in Florida. It seems to me that as soon as we started using teacher workdays and federal holidays as snow make-up days, anything taking administrators away from schools during the published make-up days at the end of the year should have been cancelled. Even if the administrators learn something at the conference, it seems there must be a cheaper and less offensive way to teach them good leadership -- like fiscal and educational responsibility!

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: bvnFp ()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:54AM

Going to Florida this time of year is HELL. Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to stay as punishment.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: why oh why ()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:51AM

They should have had Boosterthon pay for it. A fun run for the admins to go to Florida? Why not?

Or they could raise the admission fee for the turf fields. Just think if we had the Trolley, one day a week the fare could be higher to pay for these conferences.

They are just hoping the meals tax gets approved.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: if you really knew ()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:10AM

I would like to see a list of what they use the County credit cards to pay for on these trips. I know in the past there have been unauthorized items purchased.....again no accountability

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: What's covered? ()
Date: June 20, 2014 12:56PM

Conference registration, 4 nights in the disney world swan resort, all airfare, cab fare, airport parking, and all meals.

Multiply that by all of the administrators going, and that's a chunk of change.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: June 20, 2014 01:02PM

bvnFp Wrote:
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> Going to Florida this time of year is HELL.
> Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to stay
> as punishment.

Actually worse here.

When it was 97 in DC the other day, it was 83 in Palm Bay FL where I am SE of Orlando.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Walt Disney resort ()
Date: June 20, 2014 04:35PM

They will be pool side, or in the A C


These admins should be with their students the last three days of school.







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> bvnFp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Going to Florida this time of year is HELL.
> > Grossly Hot and humid. They should be made to
> stay
> > as punishment.
>
> Actually worse here.
>
> When it was 97 in DC the other day, it was 83 in
> Palm Bay FL where I am SE of Orlando.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Too dang tired ()
Date: June 20, 2014 04:43PM

Please don't make the teachers make up days on TWD while the Admins are off to a leadership conference that requires expensive travel, lodging, and food. Plus per diem.

I hope that the media picks up on this!

Our principal said he was attending a "leadership conference" during the last three days of school, too, but didn't mention it was in Florida. It seems to me that as soon as we started using teacher workdays and federal holidays as snow make-up days, anything taking administrators away from schools during the published make-up days at the end of the year should have been cancelled. Even if the administrators learn something at the conference, it seems there must be a cheaper and less offensive way to teach them good leadership -- like fiscal and educational responsibility!

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: not the same ()
Date: June 20, 2014 04:45PM

"Besides, it's not like your job never gave you anything nice for being a good employee. But maybe I'm in a minority in that I have an employer who treats me well because I bust my ass for them."


You don't get it. This is tax money and there are plenty of good employees working for FCPS who bust their asses and never get to go to fancy resorts. They are called TEACHERS. In FCPS this kind of thing causes resentment towards the administrators. It is not a good thing. The other issue is that this conference is run by people who are less than stellar (read the second article mentioned above).

The "nice thing" that teachers would like their employer to give them is a RAISE (after so many years of not getting one).

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: say what ()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:00PM

So if FCPS is one of the top school systems in the country as they always horn blow about, shouldn't other school districts be coming here to a seminar to get something from them.?

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Poverty schools failed SOLs ()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:28PM

Non comment

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: lured in ()
Date: June 20, 2014 05:51PM

Three days in Florida at a conference isn't going to change any SOL scores. If this were the answer, it would sure be easy to fix our problems. These conferences are like snake oil. We buy the oil; they make lots of money.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: label on the oil ()
Date: June 20, 2014 06:00PM

The website for this conference says:

"Your entire team will walk away with concrete, real-world tested strategies
to transform instruction for the demands of the Common Core"

I can't wait to find out what the "concrete, real-world tested strategies" will be and how they will "transform instruction for the demands of the Common Core" (which we do not have in Virginia). I'll bet we won't hear a thing about them or anything else as a result of this. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Vomit ()
Date: June 20, 2014 06:57PM

May I go Throw up now?



model schools........ my Ass
-------------------------------------------------------
> The website for this conference says:
>
> "Your entire team will walk away with concrete,
> real-world tested strategies
> to transform instruction for the demands of the
> Common Core"
>
> I can't wait to find out what the "concrete,
> real-world tested strategies" will be and how they
> will "transform instruction for the demands of the
> Common Core" (which we do not have in Virginia).
> I'll bet we won't hear a thing about them or
> anything else as a result of this. If it sounds
> too good to be true, it probably is.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: repeat of the Las Vegas fiasco ()
Date: June 20, 2014 06:57PM

Hopefully the participants will be stupid enough to post photos on social media of all the "learning" they are doing. Maybe the Post would publish them the way that they published numerous articles on Garza's big shake up strategies and the budget shortfall, ad nauseum.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: WHY NOT?????????? ()
Date: June 20, 2014 08:31PM

if you really knew Wrote:
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> I would like to see a list of what they use the
> County credit cards to pay for on these trips. I
> know in the past there have been unauthorized
> items purchased.....again no accountability

Somebody FOIA the records on this trip and post them on the Underground. There is a thread running on the parking pass slush fund that you might find interesting. I had no idea this was going on. I have three kids in the system and several years to go on this. It all seems to revolve around taking care of the admin people, and sometimes the staff also.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Ivey's bake sale ()
Date: June 20, 2014 08:38PM

Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a car wash at GateHouse.
Donations only.

Also, A GoFund Me account is being created, once it has approval from Garza!

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Manure ()
Date: June 20, 2014 08:44PM

Garza said that “everything is on the table” as the school system seeks to address the projected $140 million shortfall.

Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School Conference.
And the other perks, including a golden parachute, for a few of the execs.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: oh ya, its going on ()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:02PM

Manure Wrote:
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> Garza said that “everything is on the table”
> as the school system seeks to address the
> projected $140 million shortfall.
>
> Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney
> World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School
> Conference.
> And the other perks, including a golden parachute,
> for a few of the execs.


A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some other golf resort, this is nothing new and obviously will not stop as long as the superintendent cries they need more money and the BOS caves and gives it to them, no questions asked. At your next PTA meeting, just ask your principal has much he or she gets for his or her slush fund and which caterers and restaurants it was spent at feeding the admin staff throughout the year.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Save Money FCPS!!! ()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:09PM

Stop spending my hard-earned tax dollars on things!!!

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:22PM

oh ya, its going on Wrote:
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> A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to
> a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some
> other golf resort, this is nothing new...

You're exactly right -- it's nothing new at all. Why are people so bent out of shape over it? Organizations large and small in both the public and private sectors invest significant sums in staff development because it makes them better organizations in the long run. I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could successfully run a lemonade stand.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: just do it ()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:26PM

oh ya, its going on Wrote:
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> Manure Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Garza said that “everything is on the
> table”
> > as the school system seeks to address the
> > projected $140 million shortfall.
> >
> > Oh, except for the all expense paid Walt Disney
> > World Swan and Dolphin Resort, Model School
> > Conference.
> > And the other perks, including a golden
> parachute,
> > for a few of the execs.
>
>
> A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups to
> a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or some
> other golf resort, this is nothing new and
> obviously will not stop as long as the
> superintendent cries they need more money and the
> BOS caves and gives it to them, no questions
> asked. At your next PTA meeting, just ask your
> principal has much he or she gets for his or her
> slush fund and which caterers and restaurants it
> was spent at feeding the admin staff throughout
> the year.


You don't have to ask the principal or wait for a PTA meeting. Ask to see the Educational Contingency Account. They have to show it to you. You either ask at the front office or send a request to the DCCO office. You will have your information within 12 working days.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: too funny ()
Date: June 20, 2014 09:31PM

Ivey's bake sale Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a
> car wash at GateHouse.
> Donations only.
>
> Also, A GoFund Me account is being created, once
> it has approval from Garza!



Crap this is TOO funny.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: send more people ()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:20PM

"Organizations large and small in both the public and private sectors invest significant sums in staff development because it makes them better organizations in the long run."

Understood. It doesn't seem like this has been working so well in FCPS. Maybe we need to spend even more at resorts like this one so that we get better results on our SOLs, etc. I can see that there is a direct connection here.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: jEeJ6 ()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:38PM

Not seeing Forest OR Trees Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> oh ya, its going on Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A couple years ago they sent all the higher ups
> to
> > a team building meeting at the Greenbrier or
> some
> > other golf resort, this is nothing new...
>
> You're exactly right -- it's nothing new at all.
> Why are people so bent out of shape over it?
> Organizations large and small in both the public
> and private sectors invest significant sums in
> staff development because it makes them better
> organizations in the long run. I have to wonder
> whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could
> successfully run a lemonade stand.


And everyone from those organizations who's been to these things knows that they're mostly just an excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for everyone involved. If they planned the exact same conference in Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as important to attend. lol

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: comedy of errors ()
Date: June 20, 2014 10:40PM

" I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack whiner people could successfully run a lemonade stand."



Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the video showing the guy who heads this:

conference:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-bracey/educations-baron-von-munc_b_101667.html

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: FvNkF ()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:06PM

comedy of errors Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> " I have to wonder whether you head-in-a-sack
> whiner people could successfully run a lemonade
> stand."
>
>
>
> Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the
> administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the
> video showing the guy who heads this:
>
> conference:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-br
> acey/educations-baron-von-munc_b_101667.html



That's funny. Lots of similar stuff out there. Basically makes him look like a con artist.

Scholastic owns a piece of the pie so I guess that explains why they're shown as a partner.

New York, NY (June 8, 2007) -- Scholastic, the global children’s publishing, education and media company, today announced that it has entered a five-year agreement with Dr. Bill Daggett and will acquire the stock of the International Center for Leadership in Education (ICLE) and join forces to provide greater support to school districts seeking whole school reform.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: laughing louder ()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:10PM


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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:40PM

send more people Wrote:
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> "Organizations large and small in both the public
> and private sectors invest significant sums in
> staff development because it makes them better
> organizations in the long run."
>
> Understood. It doesn't seem like this has been
> working so well in FCPS.

What the fuck would YOU know about it, you ignorant clown? Are you in any position to access and assess information regarding the success of staff development programs ANYWHERE, much less within FCPS? What a fucking goober!

> Maybe we need to spend even more at resorts like this
> one so that we get better results on our SOLs, etc.
> I can see that there is a direct connection here.

You're too stupid to see even block lettering writ large on a brightly illuminated wall. The Disney Institute has run very well-regarded development programs for years. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that they are a very successful organization. The lessons they have learned in achieving and building on that success are eminently usable in other organizations looking for similar results. Many people can benefit from the courses and seminars they have put together, but I imagine it would all be wasted on you in particular.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:14AM

jEeJ6 Wrote:
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> And everyone from those organizations who's been
> to these things knows that they're mostly just an
> excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for
> everyone involved.

Speak for yourself, douchebag. Obviously, you've never been among the ones nominated to go. You don't drill for oil where you know there's no chance of hitting any.

> If they planned the exact same conference in
> Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as
> important to attend. lol

Come on, goober. All sorts of seminars are held in Cleveland all the time. Hundreds of them. They draw from all over. You can't possibly be that dumb. Have you ever even been to Cleveland, or is it just too scary for you there? As for after-seminar R&R, everybody knows about City Center and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but there's much more to see and do there than just that. Even if you never go inside, the Museum of Contemporary Art is a must-see attraction for the non-mindless.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:34AM

comedy of errors Wrote:
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> Hmmm. I have to wonder the same thing about the
> administration of FCPS. Scroll down and watch the
> video showing the guy who heads this:

You contend that Willard Daggett heads FCPS staff development programs? I don't think so, goobster! See if the bartender will pour you another double.
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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:39AM

laughing louder Wrote:
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> I guess FCPS admin isn't much different from Cobb County:

Seems like there might have been a case of no due diligence down there in Cobb. Poor them. But after all, it's only Jawjah. What can you expect.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: deFMm ()
Date: June 21, 2014 01:31AM

Not Seeing Forest OR Trees Wrote:
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> jEeJ6 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And everyone from those organizations who's
> been
> > to these things knows that they're mostly just
> an
> > excuse to go to a nice resort somewhere for
> > everyone involved.
>
> Speak for yourself, douchebag. Obviously, you've
> never been among the ones nominated to go. You
> don't drill for oil where you know there's no
> chance of hitting any.
>
> > If they planned the exact same conference in
> > Cleveland, suddenly it wouldn't be nearly as
> > important to attend. lol
>
> Come on, goober. All sorts of seminars are held
> in Cleveland all the time. Hundreds of them.
> They draw from all over. You can't possibly be
> that dumb. Have you ever even been to Cleveland,
> or is it just too scary for you there? As for
> after-seminar R&R, everybody knows about City
> Center and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but
> there's much more to see and do there than just
> that. Even if you never go inside, the Museum of
> Contemporary Art is a must-see attraction for the
> non-mindless.


Actually I've been to the same hotels where this is being held many times. Among many others elsewhere. Including 'beautiful' Cleveland. It sucked.

This single facility in Orlando probably holds more conferences in a week or two than Cleveland does in a year. Likewise other more desirable locations. Which is why they have them there. Because people will come. (Duh) Especially the half-assed purely for-profit shows like this which can't draw otherwise.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 03:58AM

Of course. As it is evident, I'll go ahead and admit it.

I work for one of the best Administrators in the FCPS, and I'm proud to defend ALL of the administrators ... especially the ones that brought their spouses to the event, and extended their stays for a little mini-vacation. Being an administrator is a damn sight more difficult than teaching a class or three. All of them have earned a little R-and-R plus education, as well as the bonus-points for professional development that appear in their annual performance reviews.

I say more such investments! More often! And, for more administrators!

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: cluster car wash? ()
Date: June 21, 2014 08:24AM

too funny Wrote:
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> Ivey's bake sale Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tomorrow Cluster 5, Region 3, will be holding a
> > car wash at GateHouse.
> > Donations only.
> >
> > Also, A GoFund Me account is being created,
> once
> > it has approval from Garza!
>
>
>
> Crap this is TOO funny.

IT'S RAINING!!!!!! Great day for a car wash.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 08:56AM

deFMm Wrote:
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> Actually I've been to the same hotels where this
> is being held many times.

Worked housekeeping for a while after you couldn't make airfare back to DC?

> Among many others elsewhere. Including 'beautiful'
> Cleveland. It sucked.

It's getting pretty deep in here. Of course, people painted into corners often react in desperate and illogical ways.

> This single facility in Orlando probably holds
> more conferences in a week or two than Cleveland
> does in a year.

According to YOUR desperate wild-assed guesses? Somehow, I don't see that as best evidence. Maybe you should go learn more about both locations. Maybe you should go learn more in general. Might help keep you from looking like a hapless stooge on such a regular basis.

> Likewise other more desirable locations. Which is why
> they have them there. Because people will come. (Duh)

Actually, it's because Disney itself is located in Orlando. (Duh)

> Especially the half-assed purely for-profit shows like this which
> can't draw otherwise.

You know, with all this experience and insight that you now suddenly claim to have, you should really write a book. There are thousands and thousands of organizations out there who are at this very minute getting ready to send staff off to professional development courses and seminars all over the country. But these are just a big fat waste of money according to you. You really should step in and point out to the experts just where it is that they are all going wrong. Either that or you should admit that all you are is one too typical fucked-up know-nothing been-nowhere loud-mouthed FFXU goober asshole.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: manure ()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:06AM

Bottom line----

With our county facing such a public school budget crisis, put the travel out of VA on hold.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Car wash postponed ()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:10AM

Due to the weather, Ivey's car wash is postponed.

Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday. Please being One dozen baked goods, with ingredients labeled, to room 1105.

Although the conference attendees will be at the Conference, those funds must be raised!
While dropping off your baked item, please pick up you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia Peanuts.


Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Benjamin B J ()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:27AM

For those debating seminars.....stop it,

When our Board of Supervisors decided to extend our school year beyond the 20 June, all travel for the Administration should have been put on hold.

The admin living near me, giggled in delight, when saying that this conference was planned far in advance.
Fine, but families in this County had plans for next week.

These three days added are useless. Our kiddos, will not be doing squat. Summer vacay should have started yesterday!

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: love it!!!!!!!!!!! ()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:34AM

Car wash postponed Wrote:
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> Due to the weather, Ivey's car wash is postponed.
>
> Gatehouse will be having a bake sale on Monday.
> Please being One dozen baked goods, with
> ingredients labeled, to room 1105.
>
> Although the conference attendees will be at the
> Conference, those funds must be raised!
> While dropping off your baked item, please pick up
> you order form for Sally Foster, and Virginia
> Peanuts.
>
>
> Garza has yet to approve the Go Fund Me account


This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi pens.

You have to park in the parking garage. You will be towed out front. The neighbors don't like people visiting FCPS taking their spots.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:50AM

Not Seeing Forest OR Trees Wrote:
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> Of course. As it is evident, I'll go ahead and
> admit it.

Posting under another poster's handle is pretty much the last hope of desperate men. Sort of a crash-and-burn admission of total defeat. You did earn it though. It's not like all this shame and disgrace were just handed to you.

> I work for one of the best Administrators in the FCPS,
> and I'm proud to defend ALL of the administrators.

Very poorly guessed, asshole. I do not now and have never worked for FCPS or any other county government entity. In the interests of transparency though, I have spoken both for a fee and on a pro bono basis at a number of professional seminars and other gatherings.

> ... especially the ones that brought their spouses
> to the event, and extended their stays for a little
> mini-vacation.

Envious much? Is a day-trip to Lake Fairfax pretty much the biggest sort of get-away vacation you can handle? Otherwise, taking a spouse along and on a business trip and extending the stay at the front or back end is perfectly legal and common -- AT THE PARTICIPANT'S OWN EXPENSE. Ignorant goober.

> Being an administrator is a damn sight more difficult
> than teaching a class or three.

It's not a question of which is more difficult. These are different functions requiring different skill sets. The idea is that administrative functions are carried out by those with administrative skills and the educational functions are carried out by those with educational skills. Those with no skills carry out no functions, which will pretty much stand as a major stumbling block to your ever working for FCPS.

> All of them have earned a little R-and-R plus education,
> as well as the bonus-points for professional development
> that> appear in their annual performance reviews.

Continuing education REQUIREMENTS are built into the job for most working in any significant school system. Obviously, there haven't been any such things in your life. You think teachers just laze around all summer when they are actually off taking graduate-level courses to maintain and broaden their skills in an ever-changing world. You know, all that new stuff that you wouldn't understand or be able to keep up with.

> I say more such investments! More often! And, for more
> administrators!

And I say that you're just another worthless low-grade ignorant dumbfuck.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 09:53AM

cluster car wash? Wrote:
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> IT'S RAINING!!!!!! Great day for a car wash.

That's the thing about outdoor events that have to be planned in advance. You can never tell what the weather is going to be like. Third-graders realize this. You apparently do not.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Jewh8ter2 is whanging away at ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:00AM

the keyboard this am, talking points flying.
Of course, it's all unproven assertions, so it's less real than, say, that pile of dog shit Jewh8ter2 stepped in.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Goober gibberish ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:02AM

ABOUT THE CONFERENCE

Each year since its inception in 1992, the International Center for Leadership in Education has identified the schools across the nation and around the world that have made tremendous strides in student learning. Those schools are invited to share their successful strategies at our annual Model Schools Conference.

"With 100+ concurrent sessions, Model Schools Conference will empower and inspire participants to:

•raise rigor and relevance for all students
•make marked and sustainable improvement in classrooms and schoolwide immediately
•become energized to create positive change and improve instructional effectiveness
•implement ideas and strategies shared by the nation’s highest performing and rapidly improving schools
•benefit from countless networking opportunities with educators from schools across the U.S.
•transform student learning experiences by using instructional technology
•create and implement an effective, engaging learner environment"

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:03AM

manure Wrote:
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> Bottom line----
> With our county facing such a public school budget
> crisis, put the travel out of VA on hold.

Not how it's done, stupid. You make the fewest and smallest actual cuts that you can, and spread those out as broadly and thinly as possible. Goobers see waste in everything they don't understand. That's quite a lot of things of course. In actuality, there are always budget pressures and nothing gets in that does not provide or offer significant positive value. You want to do as little damage to that value as possible. Meat-axe management is awful management, which is why you will never be a part of that field.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Real world ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:06AM

Your cast of brilliance:

Bill Daggett is recognized worldwide for his proven ability to inspire audiences and move education systems toward more rigorous and relevant instruction
Before joining the International Center, Ray served as Senior Fellow at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Education Commissioner for Vermont, and President of ASCD
Having served as Maine’s Commissioner of Education and President of CCSSO, Sue is now a leader of one of the two multi-state consortia funded by U.S. Department of Education to develop assessments for Common Core State Standards
As principal of Brockton High from 2004-2012, Sue moved this 4,200-student urban school from being a case study in failure to outperforming 90% of Massachusetts high schools
A former professor of education at Hope College, Linda is an experienced trainer and shares her deep knowledge of brain research to aid in improving student achievement
As an interdisciplinary literacy specialist, Bernadette has addressed audiences on developing and supporting literacy instruction that embraces every student in every subject.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Meat-axe management ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:07AM

WTF does that goober talk even mean?

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: fewest and smallest actual cuts ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:09AM

Is how we've arrived at this impasse. Out here in the real world, if budgets are out of bounds, we cut them. Hard and fast, then go in and prevent the situations that caused the crisis.

It's called "problem solving", and it's hard work. Something goobers and "public workers" know little about.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: "Graduate level"? Ha ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:15AM

When said work = Bachelor of Science levels, let me know. Otherwise, it's fluff.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forests OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:23AM

Benjamin B J Wrote:
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> When our Board of Supervisors decided to extend
> our school year beyond the 20 June, all travel for
> the Administration should have been put on hold.

The extra days are mandated by law on penalty of lost funding. FCPS made every effort to comply with the law while recognizing the family factor by scheduling extra days that go no further than meeting the bare minimums to qualify as an instructional day. There are no significant events scheduled. There is no penalty for non-attendance. If you were too stupid to realize all this, well, that's on you.

> The admin living near me, giggled in delight, when
> saying that this conference was planned far in advance.

Any such conference would have been planned far in advance. That's how such tings are done, as seems to come as news to you. Meanwhile, why have you been so regularly associating with known FCPS administrators?

> Fine, but families in this County had plans for
> next week. These three days added are useless.
> Our kiddos, will not be doing squat. Summer
> vacay should have started yesterday!

It indeed did for the non-stupid.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forests OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:28AM

love it!!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
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> This is GREAT. I think everybody should show up en
> masse. How about a 10 am Flash Mob of parents? I
> will make peanut butter cookies. They stock Epi
> pens. You have to park in the parking garage. You
> will be towed out front. The neighbors don't like
> people visiting FCPS taking their spots.

You're a pre-teen, aren't you. Early signs are that the apple hasn't fallen far from the goober tree, though.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:30AM

Goober gibberish Wrote:
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> ABOUT THE CONFERENCE

Or not.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:33AM

Real world Wrote:
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> Your cast of brilliance:
> Bill Daggett is recognized worldwide...

As a quack who is not associated with Disney.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:35AM

Meat-axe management Wrote:
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> WTF does that goober talk even mean?

There's only so much help I'm going to be able to give here. Those who are basically beyond help are just not going to get any.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: ? If he's a quack, ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:36AM

Then why blow taxpayer's $?

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: mom245 ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:40AM

The fact that the administrators were allowed to go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little they actually do at the schools. The last days of school are the busiest time--exams, grades, facilities,

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forests OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:41AM

fewest and smallest actual cuts Wrote:
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> Is how we've arrived at this impasse. Out here in
> the real world, if budgets are out of bounds, we
> cut them. Hard and fast, then go in and prevent
> the situations that caused the crisis. It's called
> "problem solving", and it's hard work. Something
> goobers and "public workers" know little about.

Lemonade stand owners are not really a reliable source of information. Multi-dozens of dollars are not the same thing as multi-billions of dollars. The actual real world of budgeting works the way it works, and you know precious little about that.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:44AM

"Graduate level"? Ha Wrote:
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> When said work = Bachelor of Science levels, let
> me know. Otherwise, it's fluff.

Graduate level courses are by definition beyond the level of a Bachelor's degree. You have to be pretty dumb not to know that.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forests OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:46AM

? If he's a quack, Wrote:
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> Then why blow taxpayer's $?

Talk to Cobb County, Jawjah. They apparently did.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: The average profitable lemonade ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:48AM

stand operator = more knowledgeable about the real world's operations than the average BA in Edu.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: You're the one ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:49AM

Supporting the boondoggle.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forests OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:50AM

mom245 Wrote:
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> The fact that the administrators were allowed to
> go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little
> they actually do at the schools. The last days of
> school are the busiest time--exams, grades,
> facilities,

Pshaw! Those tasks are all as done as they would have been in any other case. Try to keep up here. These extra days are phony days, staged only to meet the technical requirements of the law.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: mom245 ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:55AM

^^^
you are a stupid liar. The last exam was given friday after a week of exams. Those must be being graded now. and what if a student missed their exam due to sickness.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: shouting "goober" = ()
Date: June 21, 2014 10:58AM

"I have no rational response, so I shout in a spit flying rage of self importance"

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: mom245 ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:03AM

Yes, those admins must be doing something so important and difficult at the schools that us lowly uneducated parents cant even understand what it is, even though apparently it doesn't involve students, learning and school safety.

No doubt the conference is on how to make TPS coversheets three pages instead of one

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: bake sale 10 am Monday!!!!!! ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:07AM

Bake sale 10am Monday at Gatehouse in the lobby. Sign-up sheet-

Brownies

Cupcakes

Snickerdoodles

Chocolate chip cookies

Oatmeal cookies

Gluten-free anything

Peanut Butter cookies (peanut lovers have rights, too)

Doughnuts




You should be able to get back in time for the bus, even on the short day.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:13AM

The average profitable lemonade Wrote:
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> stand operator = more knowledgeable about the real
> world's operations than the average BA in Edu.

While many also have a Masters in Education, an entry-level teacher would typically have a Bachelors in the primary field. You know -- physics, chemistry, history, math, English, and various other subjects that you never got higher than a "C" in. All must be certified in their field, pass regular exams, and do that continuing education thing. In their "free" time.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forests OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:35AM

You're the one Wrote:
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> Supporting the boondoggle.

Because you don't get sent to them, you and your ignorant low-life goober pals are the ones who think staff development programs are a boondoggle. That's stupid -- just plain stupid. The whole private and public sector world disagrees with you and for very good reason -- investments in staff development make for better, stronger, more effective organizations in the long run. If they didn't, there wouldn't be such an industry. Organizations that have in-house expertise available run in-house programs, but few organizations have experts in everything on staff. They go outside to get the expertise they need -- sometimes to local universities and sometimes to well-regarded individual contractors like me or corporate contractors like Disney. Get a grip.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: mom245 ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:44AM

^^^^

Translation: no, seriously, the emperor has clothes on. They're brand new, and if you can't see them, there's something wrong with you.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:46AM

mom245 Wrote:
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> you are a stupid liar. The last exam was given
> friday after a week of exams. Those must be being
> graded now. and what if a student missed their
> exam due to sickness.

No, dearie. June 20 was always the last day of school, and students are too sick to take their exams every year. There is nothing new here except to babbling Chicken Little ditzoids. Keep in mind that the first six "weather days" are already provided for in the basic FCPS schedule. It is only days 7, 9, 11, etc. that have to be "made up" under Virginia law. That's where the new phony days on June 23, 24, and 25 came from.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:52AM

shouting "goober" = Wrote:
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> "I have no rational response, so I shout in a spit
> flying rage of self importance"

Deal with the facts, goober. What? Can't do that? No rational point or statement to make? So STFU then.

|^^^^^^^^^^^\||____
| The STFU Truck |||"'"|""\__,_
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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: are they really broke? ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:55AM

We don't even know if the Florida admin is for real. Somebody pull some records.

If they are really broke, how come they are dropping $2300 at Maggiano's and $1820 on umbrellas etc. etc. etc.?

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:57AM

mom245 Wrote:
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> Yes, those admins must be doing something so
> important and difficult at the schools that us
> lowly uneducated parents cant even understand what
> it is, even though apparently it doesn't involve
> students, learning and school safety.

It's YOUR fault if you don't understand how the county school system works and instead fall for every stupid goober rumor that goes flying around. If you could ACTUALLY DO any of the these FCPS admin jobs, you would HAVE one of them. But YOU DON'T.

> No doubt the conference is on how to make TPS
> coversheets three pages instead of one

Yes, no doubt. Idiot.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: mom245 ()
Date: June 21, 2014 11:58AM

The difference is, "dearie", that the principals are in the building to deal with the situation. This year they are not.

You are just making my point: Apparently during one of the most important educational times of the year, it doesn't matter whether they are in the building or not. Because they dont really do anything.

It used to be that they dealt with discipline, extraordinary circumstances. . . now they just make up TPS coversheet specs

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Not Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:13PM

mom245 Wrote:
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> Translation: no, seriously, the emperor has
> clothes on. They're brand new, and if you can't
> see them, there's something wrong with you.

Plainly, there is something wrong with you. You don't understand shit. Calendars seem to be above your pay grade. FCPS runs more than 200 schools and centers serving some 185,000 students. That's more than the entire population of Newport News. FCPS is one of the biggest and most successful school systems in the country, and as in any large organization, it takes a lot of different people and different functions to make it all go. Want to comment on something? Learn what it is first. You've simply left that step out.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: NOt Seeing Forest OR Trees ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:35PM

mom245 Wrote:
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> The difference is, "dearie", that the principals
> are in the building to deal with the situation.
> This year they are not.

What situation? You do realize that there are assistant principals who regularly take over when principals are away for business or personal reasons. You are just making more and more of a fool out of yourself as this goes on.

> You are just making my point: Apparently during
> one of the most important educational times of the
> year, it doesn't matter whether they are in the
> building or not. Because they dont really do
> anything.

They do principal things, the ones that they wnet put and got their Masters and PhD's to be able to accomplish well. None of these involve proctoring exams or monitoring kids in the gym watching movies.

> It used to be that they dealt with discipline,
> extraordinary circumstances. . . now they just
> make up TPS coversheet specs

"Office Space" was a satirical and comedic piece of FICTION. You DO realize that, don't you? You've come up so short everywhere else, there's really no way to be sure that you haven't mistaken it for a reality flick. Otherwise, you do not know, and in any case have no standards by which to judge, what ANY FCPS employee is supposed to do or actually does. You are nothing but one more waste-of-time misinformed babbling no-account goober.

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: rpcoel ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:42PM

are they really broke? Wrote:
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> We don't even know if the Florida admin is for
> real. Somebody pull some records.
>
> If they are really broke, how come they are
> dropping $2300 at Maggiano's and $1820 on
> umbrellas etc. etc. etc.?

McLean High- 3/20/2013 Maggiano's $2300, 5/28/2013 "Umbrellas" $1820

Madison High- 5/30/2013 "coasters" $1533.50

Oakton High- 11/27/2013 "staff clothing" $4602.07

Woodson High- 6/17/2013 Pane E Vino $858.34

Are they really broke?

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: Goober Barney ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:46PM

The last few days are the busiest. Administrators should not be missing from their building. The Office staff and financial admin feels the pinch. Things fall on the acting admins; yet they are in the trenches with their own End of Year obligations.

For the person that sees the forest and/or trees; look at this from the students' and teachers' perspective. We are tired of our Admins being MIA when their are issues at school that need to be addressed!
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> The fact that the administrators were allowed to
> go on this bs boondoggle just shows you how little
> they actually do at the schools. The last days of
> school are the busiest time--exams, grades,
> facilities,

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Re: FCPS paying for admins to Florida last 3 days
Posted by: mom245 ()
Date: June 21, 2014 12:47PM

TPS reports are real things, dummy. Testing Procedure Specifications.

Its just that the cover sheets, which Office Space so aptly makes fun of, are bureaucratic gobbledygook.

And you keep making the point for me: "They do principal things" apparently things which the unenlightened cant even understand, since you don't bother explaining them.

But they apparently don't involve teaching, testing or discipline, since these things can go on without them.

Isn't that pretty much what goes on at "school"?

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