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See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: You really want this? ()
Date: October 06, 2019 02:28PM

Please consider the Chicago Tribune article on the ‘Illinois Exodus.’

An “Escaping Illinois” Facebook group has more than 39,000 followers. One man even wrote a song called “Goodbye Illinois,” lamenting the state’s taxes and political corruption and expressing his desire to leave.

The state has been struggling to keep residents for decades, with more people leaving than arriving since at least 1970. But it’s only in the last few years that the state’s population and that of its largest and most important economic engine, Chicago, have slipped.





In 2018, the state had an estimated net migration loss of 6.5 people for every 1,000 residents, according to the most recent census data. Five years earlier, the net loss was about 3 people per 1,000 residents.

The latest number puts Illinois 49th out of the nation’s 50 states on net migration loss. Only Alaska had a worse rate, with a loss of 11 people per 1,000 residents.

Population decline is also happening in more parts of the state. From 1990 to 2000, 68 of Illinois’ 102 counties gained population. But so far this decade, only nine counties, including Kane, Will and DuPage in the Chicago area, have added residents.



Absurd Census Questions

The Census Bureau conducts a survey every month that includes questions about why a person changed residences in the previous year. The survey offers a range of possible answers, from foreclosure/eviction to change of climate to “wanted better neighborhood/less crime.”

The Census Bureau does not ask about income taxes, property taxes, or even taxes in general.

Nor does it ask about business climate or any of the key reasons businesses leave. And if businesses leave, the workers follow or are forced to get another job.

Tax Load



The Illinois Policy Institute reports [Despite taxing both sales and income, Illinois has higher property taxes than every single state that does not charge an income tax](Despite taxing both sales and income, Illinois has higher property taxes than every single state that does not charge an income tax.).

Property Tax on Median Home Illinois vs Indiana



Illinois vs Indiana Migration



Nineteen New Taxes

The above article was from 2017.

On May 24, 2019, the Illinois Policy Institute commented Governor Pritzker's 19 Different Tax and Fee Hikes Total $6.9 Billion.

That is on top of new "home rule" taxes in Chicago and Cook County.

On July 1, the state doubled the Illinois’ motor fuel tax to 38 cents from 19 cents per gallon giving Illinois the second highest gas tax in the nation.

Home Rule Expands

Chicago’s “Netflix tax” expands statewide, with the state charging a 7% tax on users of streaming services, as well as cable and satellite customers. None of these services were taxed at the state level.

Other tax hikes include alcohol, property transfer taxes, parking taxes, and ride-sharing (Uber tax).

The new vehicle registration tax jumps to $199, the third highest in the nation, and electric vehicle registration goes to $250 every year to pay for the gas taxes that electric vehicle owners should be paying but aren't.

Tax Sinkhole

Where is the money going?

Governor Pritzker (D-Idiot) says it to fund infrastructure.

That's a huge lie. Nearly all of it will go to teachers unions and police unions as Illinois pensions are among the worst funded in the nation.

Huge Income Tax Hikes in the Works

The Illinois legislature recently approved a constitutional amendment to allow "progressive" income taxes.

The Illinois Policy Institute comments on what to expect.

The last state to implement a plan similar to Pritzker’s was Connecticut in 1996. State lawmakers made the same promises of middle-class tax cuts, property tax relief and increased spending on social services. Those promises were broken. In fact, the typical Connecticut family has seen a 13% hike in their income tax rates since the implementation of Connecticut’s progressive tax, property tax burdens increased 35%, and the poverty rate increased 47% during the 10 years following the passage of their progressive tax.

SOURCE:

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/escape-illinois-get-the-hell-out-now-we-are-MbkLXKlb-UiH0YHirFPUUA/

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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: Nice data but....... ()
Date: October 06, 2019 04:19PM

Nice data and links.

My question:

Which state has less niggers?
The state with the lower amount, will be better.

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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: total bs . ()
Date: October 06, 2019 04:19PM

^^^ Just a bunch of bullshit,

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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: rust belt sucks ()
Date: October 06, 2019 04:24PM

Why anyone would want to live around there is beyond me. Shit weather, shit economy, high crime and high taxes. If I'm going to get fucked up the ass in high taxes I'm at least moving to Cali.

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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: progressive morons ()
Date: October 06, 2019 04:51PM

rust belt sucks Wrote:
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> Why anyone would want to live around there is
> beyond me. Shit weather, shit economy, high crime
> and high taxes. If I'm going to get fucked up the
> ass in high taxes I'm at least moving to Cali.


Maybe they're well established in a job with extended family and now democrats are forcing them to move away by turning Illinois into a third world shit hole? Don't think it can't happen where ever you live.

Why are you making STUPID FUCKING OBSERVATIONS which have nothing to do with the problem at hand?

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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: Liberal Disease ()
Date: October 06, 2019 05:15PM

The problem with this is that Liberals are like a disease. They flee the shitholes they create to go to a better run area. Only to turn that new area into the very cesspools they fled.

It's Happening here in Northern Virginia. Marylanders started fleeing the corrupt over taxed shithole of Maryland to go to Virginia. Once in Virginia they vote for the very same politicians that turned Maryland into a shithole.

Why are Liberal Democrats devoid of any reason or responsibility?

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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: rust belt sucks ()
Date: October 06, 2019 05:22PM

progressive morons Wrote:
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> rust belt sucks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why anyone would want to live around there is
> > beyond me. Shit weather, shit economy, high
> crime
> > and high taxes. If I'm going to get fucked up
> the
> > ass in high taxes I'm at least moving to Cali.
>
>
> Maybe they're well established in a job with
> extended family and now democrats are forcing them
> to move away by turning Illinois into a third
> world shit hole? Don't think it can't happen
> where ever you live.
>
> Why are you making STUPID FUCKING OBSERVATIONS
> which have nothing to do with the problem at hand?


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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: Niggers at Virginia beach ()
Date: October 06, 2019 08:06PM

Seeing this gif is like the one Summer I went to va beach and it was nigger week!
It was bad....smelly niggers everywhere. Lots o crime too

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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: You really want this? ()
Date: October 08, 2019 07:57AM


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Re: See what happens when a state turns blue - Illinois - Not taxing the rich, taxing the working class to pay for sweet government pensions
Posted by: YL4VM ()
Date: October 21, 2019 05:49AM

Demon-crat theft

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