In the world of ipads, iphones, cloud computing and touch screens, a school system with $2.5B budget, can't replace these computers in one elementary school? Really?

Love the floppy drive.
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It depends on what they're using them for.

In case you haven't gotten the 2 billion emails and tweets from Ryan McElweeny, FCPS was in budget cutting mode this year, not looking for new shit to buy that will just gather dust. If it's not stolen first.

History of Computers 101.
Hey, if they work, and do what is needed, save the money.
Plenty more opportunities to spend money later on.

save$$$$$$$$ Wrote:
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> History of Computers 101.
> Hey, if they work, and do what is needed, save the
> money.
> Plenty more opportunities to spend money later on.


Like astroturf for fields.

You really want touch screens in an Elementary school? Spend more money on iShit?
You do realize they're connected to a server?

Oh, that's right. You're a dumbshit. Get bent, hoser.

Why so faggot, bro? U mad?

Everything is outdated in FCPS, with the possible exception of offices at Gatehouse.

Most school buildings are past their useful life, just continually patched up.

The bus fleet is even worse, absolutely decrepit for the most part. Fortunately, the law won't let them keep a bus for more than 18 years, or they would let those things wheeze and spew noxious fumes for 20 years or more. I won't let my kids ride those junkers.

What's wrong w/them, dumbfuq? Wrote:
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> You really want touch screens in an Elementary
> school? Spend more money on iShit?
> You do realize they're connected to a server?
>
> Oh, that's right. You're a dumbshit. Get bent,
> hoser.
>
> Why so faggot, bro? U mad?

lol

go reboot a solaris server.

Ah, I see the problem in that picture now. It's all that University of Maryland junk hanging from the windows. I'd get rid of that before the computers, ha.

Or you just a dumbass with an internet connection?

Why so gay, faggot? You mad?

Hey, there are a lot of curse words floating around this forum! What the heck, clean it up guys.

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> Ah, I see the problem in that picture now. It's
> all that University of Maryland junk hanging from
> the windows. I'd get rid of that before the
> computers, ha.


+ 1. That really inspires our students to aim high! LOL.

Those HPs look mid-2000s!

Buying computers? Really? How about asking one of the vendors to donate some computers. It's called locking in a customer base from an early age.

V3JeN Wrote:
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> Buying computers? Really? How about asking one
> of the vendors to donate some computers. It's
> called locking in a customer base from an early
> age.

Remember when FCPS did that w/ Giant receipts to get Apple equipment back in the early 90's? It never really worked out since PCs were making their way into homes and came to dominate the mindshare of students compared to what they would experience at school.

I doubt anyone is going to get locked into HP or a Dell or whatever because they spend an hour a week on one at their school.

@Everyone - OP's something else - I mean, I'm sorry but a parent who has NEVER. SEEN. THE. INSIDE. OF. THEIR. CHILD'S. SCHOOL. UNTIL. JUNE!?!!??!!!

@OP: Easy for the rest of us to fig why FCPS arent wasting taxpayer dollars for IPAD FOR 2ND GRADERS, DUMBASS!!!!

Durrrrrrrrrr

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then again.............maybe it's just a kid who snuck a camphone in to try a get an upgraded system in the Computer Room so he can load some apps up on it, who knows LoLz

either way, not too sure why those computers are bad - maybe if they had something more like this on the scene we'd care what you were saying, OP
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Sad thing is they float 30 year bonds to buy computers that last 5 - 6 years max. People vote yes on that shit in amazing numbers. That's like getting a 30 year mortgage to buy a car - it makes no sense and will eventually be unsustainable. Schools will be paying off loans in 2030 for those PC's in the OP's post.

Noone is asking for Ipads.

But those computers are garbage.
They are about the same age as what I used when I graduated from FCPS, and that was over 10 years ago.

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> V3JeN Wrote:
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> > Buying computers? Really? How about asking
> one
> > of the vendors to donate some computers. It's
> > called locking in a customer base from an early
> > age.
>
> Remember when FCPS did that w/ Giant receipts to
> get Apple equipment back in the early 90's? It
> never really worked out since PCs were making
> their way into homes and came to dominate the
> mindshare of students compared to what they would
> experience at school.
>
> I doubt anyone is going to get locked into HP or a
> Dell or whatever because they spend an hour a week
> on one at their school.


I wonder when Dell lost their FCPS contract, and HP took over.

I'm hesitant to deploy iPads and similar technology to elementary students, do you know how often the screens get broken? Its bad enough that all the taechers and admins get them, they crack the screens all the time!

Why does FCPS allow racist posters in school? There is a Redskins poster clearly visible.

I'm amazed anybody would care. You send your kids to public school as punishment. You people hate your kids.

Way too much money is spent on technology in elementary schools. The money should be used on reducing class sizes. Every teacher in my school got a new laptop this year, for no reason. The ones we had were fine. This is elementary school. There is so much waste in the technology sector.

Those computers look fine. I don't know what you're talking about.

VEIK Wrote:
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> In the world of ipads, iphones, cloud computing
> and touch screens, a school system with $2.5B
> budget, can't replace these computers in one
> elementary school? Really?
>
> Love the floppy drive.


Gotta be a bunch of libs. That is NOT a FFX CO school. Why would they have Maryland Terps posters?
Stoooopid libs.

Fairfax will not replace these computers, they may replace the teachers computers but only every 4+ years?

The PTSA/Parents will replace the computers. At our FCPS school the PTSA/Parents raised over $80k in the past few years to replace all the library computers that were about 10 years old and to buy all sorts of technology for the teachers. Unfortunately not every PTSA or group of parents can raise this kind of money.

Dumb ass FCPS pays about 50% to Dell for the extended maintance on each machine. They should skip the maintenace and just buy 1 additional computer for every 10-20 computers deployed, this would save $$$$$$$.

FCPS needs to re-evaluate the warranty/extended service they have on their hardware as most schools have at least one tech person full time and there are floaters that help the schools. Keeping half a dozen spares on the shelf is far cheaper than the "contract" terms they pay for and when the machine are 2-4 years old, if they are still in service, there is Craigslist and ebay for buying like machines to match the antiques they are keeping in service.

Think outside of the box FCPS and use your head.

TeacherElem Wrote:
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> Way too much money is spent on technology in
> elementary schools. The money should be used on
> reducing class sizes. Every teacher in my school
> got a new laptop this year, for no reason. The
> ones we had were fine. This is elementary school.
> There is so much waste in the technology sector.


What was done with the OLD laptops?

stoooopid libs Wrote:
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> VEIK Wrote:
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> > In the world of ipads, iphones, cloud computing
> > and touch screens, a school system with $2.5B
> > budget, can't replace these computers in one
> > elementary school? Really?
> >
> > Love the floppy drive.
>
>
> Gotta be a bunch of libs. That is NOT a FFX CO
> school. Why would they have Maryland Terps
> posters?
> Stoooopid libs.

Its Clearview Elementary

Terps posters were there for Scholastic book fair.

nifty thrifty Wrote:
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> TeacherElem Wrote:
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> > Way too much money is spent on technology in
> > elementary schools. The money should be used on
> > reducing class sizes. Every teacher in my
> school
> > got a new laptop this year, for no reason. The
> > ones we had were fine. This is elementary
> school.
> > There is so much waste in the technology
> sector.
>
>
> What was done with the OLD laptops?

A lot of times when we upgrade to new laptops, they use the old ones to create mobile labs for student use.

When the TOTALLY get rid of laptops (as in - they're not even good enough for a mobile lab anymore) I think they pile them up in a warehouse somewhere. There was a story in the news awhile back (I think someone posted about it on FFU) about some fairfax county worker who stole a bunch of laptops from a warehouse somewhere.

They just updated to sneakernet 8.1. What are you complaining about?

Let's just adopt some monkeys from Africa and install software in their brains to solve basic math equations for your spoiled children so they can graduate 3rd grade full honors and eventually go on to enter the corporate finance world.

> What was done with the OLD laptops?

Craigslist!!!!

Did not not hear about the FCPS employee that was selling FCPS laptops on Craigslist.

I think he sold more than 500 before they caught on to what was going on?

If they got rid of these computers eveyone would be bitching about that too...remember the FCPL library fiasco. I'm sure they still work for internet word processing.

The computer needs of a kindergartner are pretty basic. Supposedly.
Although you never know these days.

Like most government institutions, FCPS pays inflated prices for outdated computers that the manufacturers would like to unload. What do they care? It's not their money they're spending. This is the reason the government sector is almost always more inefficient.

TOak Wrote:
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> Like most government institutions, FCPS pays
> inflated prices for outdated computers that the
> manufacturers would like to unload. What do they
> care? It's not their money they're spending. This
> is the reason the government sector is almost
> always more inefficient.


la courthouse (fx co courthouse)

fx co. court gets new PCs from a New Jersey firm. looked like ISA carryign them in to me, allot like.

that's a clear conflict of interest the comptuers aren't from NJ and neither is the gov money

i've also noticed fx co has other hires from NJ in thier offices, in upper areas

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hmmmm. maybe democrats are sacks of shit

uh huh. and the news of millions spent on the first fx co pub. school satellite project ?

and the 3D printers and stuff ?

and the cell phones and computers and calculators

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yes apple should get some forced purchases microsoft certainly has had their share in VA

VA has long forced students to use a particular brand of technology

which reminds me Bob MCDonald in a move he lamented ...

paid out $245 million + for Califorinia workers to supply VA with a mainframe which they had many problems with

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hell if ou wanted late and over bugdget why didn't they at least hire virginians ? anybody makes money that way. anybody.

This computer looks like it's serving as a "card catalog" in a library. Probably good use for it.

There are modern computers/laptops in every FCPS school. They have to upgrade often, as the software used for SOL testing changes every year. That's where the racket is folks. You want to bitch about school funding, that's where a huge chunk of it is.

Good enough then. Why buy a Mercedes when a clunker will do just fine.

el cheapo Wrote:
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> Good enough then. Why buy a Mercedes when a
> clunker will do just fine.

because of the $$$$ service contract asshole, and you knew that

little red riding hood

FCPS had these (even in elementary schools) but they were STOLEN - they were replaced with crappy HP chinese PC that were totally un-reliable (required "IT maintenance contracts").



the montiors on the units were beautiful engineering / photo quality monitors - STOLEN - replaced with chinese crap PC monitors. those monitors beat today's LED screens hands down (if you discount the invonvenience of picking one up, having already purchased it, there would be zero reason to not be still using it).

Apple monitors were big, beautiful, and expensive in the 1990's and early 2000's (before HP chinese PC and crappy LED monitors) (they were not always dress up like the one above, no)

engineers got 27" monitors (large even by today's LED standards)

some true photo "afficionado" still use them - because even the best chinese LED are crappy in comparison

THEY WERE STOLEN FROM FCPS

I remember when my nieces (late elementary school for them, late 90's or early 2000's) reported to me that their nice slim footprint apple computers were replace by hp china box PC. They said they didn't like the PC, the kids didn't like PC, and the teachers kept having to reboot them, and that they had no idea why the school "took away their apples". (and the monitors were smaller, 1/2 the street value of the ones stolen)

Its no wonder what it is important is falling apart in the county, with the One Fairfax initiative, paying money for political correctness initiatives such as LGBTQ, dozens of spoken and written languages, police chasing criminals, and expensive consultants for and lawsuits from these initiatives. Yet with increased property values not stemming the flow from around the world, some of the highest taxes and rents in the country.

In much of Virginia, an abacus is the most sophisticated computer available.

what the hell is telemudo maryland illegal alient printed "Washington Post" doing in a school room?

if that's fx co gov school there is no way they should be buying a maryland news paper and setting it next to every chinese pc

and for the HS English/Literature prize: if you get an article in the news paper you get bragging rights and extra credit

WTFAM: are you saying i have to kneel to illegal aliens and tell cnn political lies to get credit in school?

oh fuck you then

They need MUCHO MUCHO DENIRO to keep all the illegals they are giving sanctuary for in their high end townhouses compplete with food, transportation, and enough extra to send back to grandpa and grandma in Zacatecas. Why give it to the schools? Let all the Fairfax millionairres buy their own books and supplies who use the schools here. The money is much better spent doing humanitarian deeds to ensure we the powerful quadrant bosses keep ourselves in office!

The money needed for computers is currently being used to market our gun confiscation plans. Tell your kids they do not need a computer at school. Yes, China has just topped the world's smartest kids but we believe that your kids will be ok. We have started planning a new school program that involves 4 study halls and 2 gym classes per day. Digital calculators will be provided for the basic math portion.

I don't no dig'tal callator, jus' gimme my abacus; you won't be teachin' anyrthin' past 3rd grade math ennyways!

They can't spend it, they must save it for when SCOTUS overturns the Democrats gun ban so it can be disbursed to finalize all of the class action lawsuits that the state must pay off for the unconstitutional act against law abiding citizens suppressing their 2nd amendment rights

Don't worry it will go to a good cause , DAJAX will be buying a hundred new guns with his share

Your Democrats should have thought about what the legal repercussions will be upon the states budget with their gun bans not reasonable regulations