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No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Jim Wordsworth, McLean
()
Date: June 10, 2014 03:17PM
No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140610/OPINION/140619925/1065/no-appetite-for-fairfax-county-food-tax&template=fairfaxTimes
Few families experience the daily frantic pace of bad traffic and overscheduling quite like Northern Virginians. As lives become busier, the sit down home cooked meal is becoming less frequent. Restaurants have become a respite for families and loved ones to exhale and reconnect. Prepared foods in grocery and retail stores offer ready-to-eat options others. Coffee shops and convenience stores provide a handy snack option for busy soccer moms and dads in between commitments.
Unfortunately Northern Virginians that rely on these dining options have found themselves in the crosshairs of elected officials looking to levy up to a 4 percent tax on food and drinks prepared at restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, doughnut and coffee shops, and convenience stores across the county. It is taxation without justification—ill conceived, undefined and on an unnecessary fast track.
The food tax would add another layer of burden on busy families that already have enough to worry about. Family budgets that are being stretched thin with everything from higher sales and real estate taxes, higher tolls, higher insurance premiums and more.
Supervisors suggest that commuters would be the primary targets of the tax, but that just isn’t the case. With a population of 1.1 million, Fairfax County residents and families for whom eating out is often a necessity rather than a choice would bear the brunt. Sadly, low to middle income families would feel the impact of this more acutely as they are the primary consumers of prepared meals.
More puzzling is the fact that there is no current plan for how the revenue raised from a food tax would be used. While tax rates are dropping in neighboring counties, real estate and other taxes in Fairfax are on the rise so there is no need for a tax cut offset. There are no current budget cuts on the table and the county bond rating remains solid. Nevertheless, a task force has been appointed and is on a hurried timetable to study and produce a “recommendation for how revenue from a food tax should be used.” Essentially, that means the Board has not yet identified an actual need for levying a food tax, but intends to rush it through the process to approve it so it can be on the November election ballot.
The tax is a blunt instrument that singles out a single industry that employs 40,000 and is an economic engine for Fairfax County and the beltway region. Restaurants and hospitality play a vital role in Fairfax County’s economy. We are one of few industries today that offers a clear entrepreneurial career ladder—from dishwasher to line cook, from busser to server to management and someday ownership. 80 percent of restaurant owners started in an entry-level position within the restaurant industry.
As our economy continues to recover from a debilitating downturn, which closed many restaurants, our leaders need to find ways to help create a favorable business climate so we can continue to provide jobs and stimulate growth. A new tax on top of multiple other tax hikes, the high costs of health insurance changes and other regulations will stifle our ability to hire employees and remain competitive. Restaurants might choose to locate elsewhere or the many conferences and large groups that seek lodging and dining sites may migrate to Washington, D.C. or Maryland suburbs.
If Supervisors wish to study the merits of a new food tax, it would be best to review history. A Fairfax County meals tax was put to voter referendum in April 1992, but was resoundingly defeated by voters 58 percent to 42 percent. Similarly, Loudoun County held a referendum for a meals tax in November 2008 but it failed by a vote of 70 percent to 30 percent.
Put simply, the proposal put forward by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors is taxation without justification. It will burden Fairfax County residents and families and dampen one bright spot in our economy. Voters have rejected it before and all indicators say there is no appetite for it today. Our elected officials can and should stop this effort in its tracks now.
Jim Wordsworth, McLean
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140610/OPINION/140619925/1065/no-appetite-for-fairfax-county-food-tax&template=fairfaxTimes
Few families experience the daily frantic pace of bad traffic and overscheduling quite like Northern Virginians. As lives become busier, the sit down home cooked meal is becoming less frequent. Restaurants have become a respite for families and loved ones to exhale and reconnect. Prepared foods in grocery and retail stores offer ready-to-eat options others. Coffee shops and convenience stores provide a handy snack option for busy soccer moms and dads in between commitments.
Unfortunately Northern Virginians that rely on these dining options have found themselves in the crosshairs of elected officials looking to levy up to a 4 percent tax on food and drinks prepared at restaurants, hotels, grocery stores, doughnut and coffee shops, and convenience stores across the county. It is taxation without justification—ill conceived, undefined and on an unnecessary fast track.
The food tax would add another layer of burden on busy families that already have enough to worry about. Family budgets that are being stretched thin with everything from higher sales and real estate taxes, higher tolls, higher insurance premiums and more.
Supervisors suggest that commuters would be the primary targets of the tax, but that just isn’t the case. With a population of 1.1 million, Fairfax County residents and families for whom eating out is often a necessity rather than a choice would bear the brunt. Sadly, low to middle income families would feel the impact of this more acutely as they are the primary consumers of prepared meals.
More puzzling is the fact that there is no current plan for how the revenue raised from a food tax would be used. While tax rates are dropping in neighboring counties, real estate and other taxes in Fairfax are on the rise so there is no need for a tax cut offset. There are no current budget cuts on the table and the county bond rating remains solid. Nevertheless, a task force has been appointed and is on a hurried timetable to study and produce a “recommendation for how revenue from a food tax should be used.” Essentially, that means the Board has not yet identified an actual need for levying a food tax, but intends to rush it through the process to approve it so it can be on the November election ballot.
The tax is a blunt instrument that singles out a single industry that employs 40,000 and is an economic engine for Fairfax County and the beltway region. Restaurants and hospitality play a vital role in Fairfax County’s economy. We are one of few industries today that offers a clear entrepreneurial career ladder—from dishwasher to line cook, from busser to server to management and someday ownership. 80 percent of restaurant owners started in an entry-level position within the restaurant industry.
As our economy continues to recover from a debilitating downturn, which closed many restaurants, our leaders need to find ways to help create a favorable business climate so we can continue to provide jobs and stimulate growth. A new tax on top of multiple other tax hikes, the high costs of health insurance changes and other regulations will stifle our ability to hire employees and remain competitive. Restaurants might choose to locate elsewhere or the many conferences and large groups that seek lodging and dining sites may migrate to Washington, D.C. or Maryland suburbs.
If Supervisors wish to study the merits of a new food tax, it would be best to review history. A Fairfax County meals tax was put to voter referendum in April 1992, but was resoundingly defeated by voters 58 percent to 42 percent. Similarly, Loudoun County held a referendum for a meals tax in November 2008 but it failed by a vote of 70 percent to 30 percent.
Put simply, the proposal put forward by the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors is taxation without justification. It will burden Fairfax County residents and families and dampen one bright spot in our economy. Voters have rejected it before and all indicators say there is no appetite for it today. Our elected officials can and should stop this effort in its tracks now.
Jim Wordsworth, McLean
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
93pJE
()
Date: June 12, 2014 03:34PM
Just another tax to pay for freeloaders.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Jizzy Jam
()
Date: June 12, 2014 04:31PM
I fucking hate people who declare war against any proposed tax. If you live in FFX and like the schools and the police service and the higher quality of life you need to recognize that we are losing talented people to Arlington, Falls Church, Loudon and even PWC because we can't afford to pay competitive benefits and salaries. A food tax similar to what ALREADY exists in Arlington and Falls Church City would allow us to generate that revenue.
Of course there is no plan for using the tax as of yet because the tax does not exist - FUCKING IDIOTS!!! THE BOS has no authority to levy a tax, what it does have authority to do is PUT THE ISSUE UP FOR VOTE. WHICH IS ALL THEY ARE FUCKING PROPOSING TO TO DO.
WHY THESE FUCKING TURD PARTY SISTER FUCKERS CAN"T UNDERSTAND THAT IS BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING.
BESIDES - WHY THE FUCK WOULD A FAMILY THAT IS STRETCHED THIN ON THEIR BUDGET BE EATING OUT TO BEGIN WITH.
FUCK THEM!
Of course there is no plan for using the tax as of yet because the tax does not exist - FUCKING IDIOTS!!! THE BOS has no authority to levy a tax, what it does have authority to do is PUT THE ISSUE UP FOR VOTE. WHICH IS ALL THEY ARE FUCKING PROPOSING TO TO DO.
WHY THESE FUCKING TURD PARTY SISTER FUCKERS CAN"T UNDERSTAND THAT IS BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING.
BESIDES - WHY THE FUCK WOULD A FAMILY THAT IS STRETCHED THIN ON THEIR BUDGET BE EATING OUT TO BEGIN WITH.
FUCK THEM!
Quote of the Day!
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: June 12, 2014 04:43PM
> BESIDES - WHY THE FUCK WOULD A FAMILY THAT IS
> STRETCHED THIN ON THEIR BUDGET BE EATING OUT TO
> BEGIN WITH.
> FUCK THEM!
Attachments:
> STRETCHED THIN ON THEIR BUDGET BE EATING OUT TO
> BEGIN WITH.
> FUCK THEM!
Attachments:
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Actually...
()
Date: June 12, 2014 04:48PM
Exactly. A meals tax would hit tourists here for business or pleasure and County locals who are wealthy enough to dine out often, but somehow not in any of the areas in and around the County that already have a meals tax that nobody notices.
The OP is nothing but another anti-tax load of Chicken Little bullshit.
The OP is nothing but another anti-tax load of Chicken Little bullshit.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Teacher's Spouse
()
Date: June 12, 2014 04:53PM
Jizzy Jam Wrote:
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> I fucking hate people who declare war against any
> proposed tax. If you live in FFX and like the
> schools and the police service and the higher
> quality of life you need to recognize that we are
> losing talented people to Arlington, Falls Church,
> Loudon and even PWC because we can't afford to pay
> competitive benefits and salaries. A food tax
> similar to what ALREADY exists in Arlington and
> Falls Church City would allow us to generate that
> revenue.
> Of course there is no plan for using the tax as of
> yet because the tax does not exist - FUCKING
> IDIOTS!!! THE BOS has no authority to levy a tax,
> what it does have authority to do is PUT THE ISSUE
> UP FOR VOTE. WHICH IS ALL THEY ARE FUCKING
> PROPOSING TO TO DO.
> WHY THESE FUCKING TURD PARTY SISTER FUCKERS CAN"T
> UNDERSTAND THAT IS BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING.
>
> BESIDES - WHY THE FUCK WOULD A FAMILY THAT IS
> STRETCHED THIN ON THEIR BUDGET BE EATING OUT TO
> BEGIN WITH.
> FUCK THEM!
No, FFX is losing talented people because we've embraced illegal latinos that are driving down the quality of our schools, libraries and other public institutions. Ask any teacher off the record. They spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to teach these 3rd world fencejumpers to stop shitting in their pants and eating with their hands, much less to read or speak English. Those of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can afford to more) do.
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> I fucking hate people who declare war against any
> proposed tax. If you live in FFX and like the
> schools and the police service and the higher
> quality of life you need to recognize that we are
> losing talented people to Arlington, Falls Church,
> Loudon and even PWC because we can't afford to pay
> competitive benefits and salaries. A food tax
> similar to what ALREADY exists in Arlington and
> Falls Church City would allow us to generate that
> revenue.
> Of course there is no plan for using the tax as of
> yet because the tax does not exist - FUCKING
> IDIOTS!!! THE BOS has no authority to levy a tax,
> what it does have authority to do is PUT THE ISSUE
> UP FOR VOTE. WHICH IS ALL THEY ARE FUCKING
> PROPOSING TO TO DO.
> WHY THESE FUCKING TURD PARTY SISTER FUCKERS CAN"T
> UNDERSTAND THAT IS BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING.
>
> BESIDES - WHY THE FUCK WOULD A FAMILY THAT IS
> STRETCHED THIN ON THEIR BUDGET BE EATING OUT TO
> BEGIN WITH.
> FUCK THEM!
No, FFX is losing talented people because we've embraced illegal latinos that are driving down the quality of our schools, libraries and other public institutions. Ask any teacher off the record. They spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to teach these 3rd world fencejumpers to stop shitting in their pants and eating with their hands, much less to read or speak English. Those of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can afford to more) do.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Actually...
()
Date: June 12, 2014 07:11PM
Teacher's Spouse Wrote:
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> Those of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka
> Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can
> afford to more) do.
LOL! Your teacher-spouse would have a full plate just trying to educate YOU!
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> Those of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka
> Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can
> afford to more) do.
LOL! Your teacher-spouse would have a full plate just trying to educate YOU!
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
What????
()
Date: June 12, 2014 07:14PM
" Those of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can afford to more) do."
I was tracking with you until this. What the fuck is it that you are trying to say?
I was tracking with you until this. What the fuck is it that you are trying to say?
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Jizzy Jam
()
Date: June 12, 2014 11:15PM
Teacher's Spouse Wrote:
> No, FFX is losing talented people because we've
> embraced illegal latinos that are driving down the
> quality of our schools, libraries and other public
> institutions. Ask any teacher off the record.
> They spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to
> teach these 3rd world fencejumpers to stop
> shitting in their pants and eating with their
> hands, much less to read or speak English. Those
> of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka
> Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can
> afford to more) do.
Hey Tea Bagger - those immigrant kids are the ones who are kicking the tails of your white snow flakes - in academics, sports and the arts. Go raise a bunch of tree cutters, tow truck drivers and plumbers. The NOT WHITES WILL BREED with your white kids and your genetics will be lost forever among those that are superior to yours. Survival of the fittest. It truly does work.
> No, FFX is losing talented people because we've
> embraced illegal latinos that are driving down the
> quality of our schools, libraries and other public
> institutions. Ask any teacher off the record.
> They spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to
> teach these 3rd world fencejumpers to stop
> shitting in their pants and eating with their
> hands, much less to read or speak English. Those
> of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka
> Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can
> afford to more) do.
Hey Tea Bagger - those immigrant kids are the ones who are kicking the tails of your white snow flakes - in academics, sports and the arts. Go raise a bunch of tree cutters, tow truck drivers and plumbers. The NOT WHITES WILL BREED with your white kids and your genetics will be lost forever among those that are superior to yours. Survival of the fittest. It truly does work.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Plain Facts
()
Date: June 12, 2014 11:25PM
Jizzy Jam Wrote:
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> Hey Tea Bagger - those immigrant kids are the ones
> who are kicking the tails of your white snow
> flakes - in academics, sports and the arts. Go
> raise a bunch of tree cutters, tow truck drivers
> and plumbers. The NOT WHITES WILL BREED with your
> white kids and your genetics will be lost forever
> among those that are superior to yours. Survival
> of the fittest. It truly does work.
A majority of the US population aged five and under is already non-white. By about 2020, that will be a majority of those aged 18 and under. Another 15-20 years and it will be a majority of everybody. The white era is at long last almost over in America.
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> Hey Tea Bagger - those immigrant kids are the ones
> who are kicking the tails of your white snow
> flakes - in academics, sports and the arts. Go
> raise a bunch of tree cutters, tow truck drivers
> and plumbers. The NOT WHITES WILL BREED with your
> white kids and your genetics will be lost forever
> among those that are superior to yours. Survival
> of the fittest. It truly does work.
A majority of the US population aged five and under is already non-white. By about 2020, that will be a majority of those aged 18 and under. Another 15-20 years and it will be a majority of everybody. The white era is at long last almost over in America.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Jizzy Jam
()
Date: June 12, 2014 11:28PM
I predict there will be a race war and it won't be whites against everyone else. It will be factions within all races who become desperate to maintain the purity of their respective races. I pray for a day when there will be no race. We'll all be so cross-bred that no one will be able to identify with any single race.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Fairfaxian
()
Date: June 13, 2014 09:31AM
So getting in the car, driving to a restaurant, waiting for a table, sitting down, ordering drinks, ordering appetizers, getting appetizers, ordering entrees, eating entrees, thinking about dessert, waiting for the check, paying, and driving home is somehow faster and easier than just cooking a meal?
It takes more time and is more expensive to go to a restaurant. Eating out is not a necessity; it is an economic luxury.
It takes more time and is more expensive to go to a restaurant. Eating out is not a necessity; it is an economic luxury.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Section_8_Sharon
()
Date: June 13, 2014 09:38AM
Jizzy Jam Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Teacher's Spouse Wrote:
>
> > No, FFX is losing talented people because we've
> > embraced illegal latinos that are driving down
> the
> > quality of our schools, libraries and other
> public
> > institutions. Ask any teacher off the record.
> > They spend a ridiculous amount of time trying
> to
> > teach these 3rd world fencejumpers to stop
> > shitting in their pants and eating with their
> > hands, much less to read or speak English.
> Those
> > of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka
> > Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can
> > afford to more) do.
>
>
> Hey Tea Bagger - those immigrant kids are the ones
> who are kicking the tails of your white snow
> flakes - in academics, sports and the arts. Go
> raise a bunch of tree cutters, tow truck drivers
> and plumbers. The NOT WHITES WILL BREED with your
> white kids and your genetics will be lost forever
> among those that are superior to yours. Survival
> of the fittest. It truly does work.
Funny how a discussion about a meals tax brings out the racists on this site.
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> Teacher's Spouse Wrote:
>
> > No, FFX is losing talented people because we've
> > embraced illegal latinos that are driving down
> the
> > quality of our schools, libraries and other
> public
> > institutions. Ask any teacher off the record.
> > They spend a ridiculous amount of time trying
> to
> > teach these 3rd world fencejumpers to stop
> > shitting in their pants and eating with their
> > hands, much less to read or speak English.
> Those
> > of us who can leave for "whiter" pastures (aka
> > Falls Church or Loundoun, where the beaners can
> > afford to more) do.
>
>
> Hey Tea Bagger - those immigrant kids are the ones
> who are kicking the tails of your white snow
> flakes - in academics, sports and the arts. Go
> raise a bunch of tree cutters, tow truck drivers
> and plumbers. The NOT WHITES WILL BREED with your
> white kids and your genetics will be lost forever
> among those that are superior to yours. Survival
> of the fittest. It truly does work.
Funny how a discussion about a meals tax brings out the racists on this site.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Sharoom Bullover
()
Date: June 13, 2014 09:38AM
We need this tax increase to pay for all the poor little children from central America who will be coming here. They will need shelter, food, clothing, cell phones, cars, and machetes. We must also serve them their native foods in the school cafeterias. At the next meeting I'll be displaying pictures of the poverty stricken so we can all feel warm and fuzzy. Dig deep people and pass this fucking tax or I will make you miserable. You are all peasants so do what I say and shut up.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
earth to nova
()
Date: June 13, 2014 09:41AM
There is such a thing as packing sandwiches and snacks. It isn't that difficult. However, for the people who haven't touched their kitchen appliances in years, this is a challenge.
Eating out is the exception rather than the rule in our house.
Eating out is the exception rather than the rule in our house.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Public Nuisance
()
Date: June 13, 2014 10:12AM
As sentient people already understand, a meals tax would add much needed revenue to County coffers while minimizing impacts on actual County residents.
Another good idea might be a fucking NUISANCE TAX on goober assholes. That might raise quite a bit of money.
Another good idea might be a fucking NUISANCE TAX on goober assholes. That might raise quite a bit of money.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Gerry's kids
()
Date: June 13, 2014 10:30AM
How about a tax for being a stupid libtard? Lord knows we have enough of them. So many that we could easily fund every stupid ass midnight basketball, affordable housing, ESOL program they could ever dream up.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Stupid Asshole Alert
()
Date: June 13, 2014 10:42AM
Gerry's kids Wrote:
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> How about a tax for being a stupid libtard? Lord
> knows we have enough of them. So many that we
> could easily fund every stupid ass midnight
> basketball, affordable housing, ESOL program they
> could ever dream up.
These people you childishly call "libtards" while actually being unable to establish any valid point at all are already forced to pay the Cassandra Tax -- the curse of being right about everything while having none of you braindead ignorant right-wing asshole fucktards believe a word of it. Stupid band of uneducated dumbshits.
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> How about a tax for being a stupid libtard? Lord
> knows we have enough of them. So many that we
> could easily fund every stupid ass midnight
> basketball, affordable housing, ESOL program they
> could ever dream up.
These people you childishly call "libtards" while actually being unable to establish any valid point at all are already forced to pay the Cassandra Tax -- the curse of being right about everything while having none of you braindead ignorant right-wing asshole fucktards believe a word of it. Stupid band of uneducated dumbshits.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
libtardo
()
Date: June 13, 2014 01:29PM
Stupid Asshole Alert Wrote:
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>
> These people you childishly call "libtards" while
> actually being unable to establish any valid point
> at all are already forced to pay the Cassandra Tax
> -- the curse of being right about everything while
> having none of you braindead ignorant right-wing
> asshole fucktards believe a word of it. Stupid
> band of uneducated dumbshits.
STFU libtard.
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>
> These people you childishly call "libtards" while
> actually being unable to establish any valid point
> at all are already forced to pay the Cassandra Tax
> -- the curse of being right about everything while
> having none of you braindead ignorant right-wing
> asshole fucktards believe a word of it. Stupid
> band of uneducated dumbshits.
STFU libtard.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Fairfaxian
()
Date: June 13, 2014 02:47PM
Gerry's kids Wrote:
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> How about a tax for being a stupid libtard? Lord
> knows we have enough of them. So many that we
> could easily fund every stupid ass midnight
> basketball, affordable housing, ESOL program they
> could ever dream up.
Yeah, a tax that encourages people to cook real food and eat dinner at home sure sounds like a partisan, liberal thing to me. Conservatives definitely wouldn't support any measure that encourages people to be more fiscally responsible (cooking is less expensive and generally healthier) and strengthen family bonds (by cooking, eating, and cleaning together).
Some things aren't politically partisan in nature.
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> How about a tax for being a stupid libtard? Lord
> knows we have enough of them. So many that we
> could easily fund every stupid ass midnight
> basketball, affordable housing, ESOL program they
> could ever dream up.
Yeah, a tax that encourages people to cook real food and eat dinner at home sure sounds like a partisan, liberal thing to me. Conservatives definitely wouldn't support any measure that encourages people to be more fiscally responsible (cooking is less expensive and generally healthier) and strengthen family bonds (by cooking, eating, and cleaning together).
Some things aren't politically partisan in nature.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
##########
()
Date: June 13, 2014 03:42PM
Ummh speak for yourself... Afterwork it's Yoga then gym... I get home by 8:30 PM. Ain't nobody got time to fuck around in the kitchen.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Fairfaxian
()
Date: June 13, 2014 04:17PM
########## Wrote:
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> Ummh speak for yourself... Afterwork it's Yoga
> then gym... I get home by 8:30 PM. Ain't nobody
> got time to fuck around in the kitchen.
Try using a slow cooker, or cooking huge meals on the weekends, dividing them into portions, and vacuum-sealing and freezing them. It really does not take much time. It only takes the will to do it - a lot like going to yoga and the gym.
Speaking of which: eating fat-and-sodium-laced takeout all the time is probably counterproductive to your yoga + gym commitment.
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> Ummh speak for yourself... Afterwork it's Yoga
> then gym... I get home by 8:30 PM. Ain't nobody
> got time to fuck around in the kitchen.
Try using a slow cooker, or cooking huge meals on the weekends, dividing them into portions, and vacuum-sealing and freezing them. It really does not take much time. It only takes the will to do it - a lot like going to yoga and the gym.
Speaking of which: eating fat-and-sodium-laced takeout all the time is probably counterproductive to your yoga + gym commitment.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
TOak
()
Date: June 13, 2014 05:28PM
Fairfax County politicians, like those across the river in Washington, believe that citizens work for them, instead of vice versa. Imagine if you go into your neighbors wallets or bank accounts. You might be restrained at first, just doing so to pay for the necessities. But once you saw it was pretty easy, you would soon be hanging out in strip joints and casinos. And that is American politics today.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Honestly...
()
Date: June 13, 2014 05:37PM
########## Wrote:
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> Ummh speak for yourself... Afterwork it's Yoga
> then gym... I get home by 8:30 PM. Ain't nobody
> got time to fuck around in the kitchen.
If you can afford the gym, you wouldn't notice a meals tax. Just like all those people in Fairfax City, Vienna, Herndon, Falls Church, and Alexandria already don't. Not to mention Arlington and even the two Manassases.
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> Ummh speak for yourself... Afterwork it's Yoga
> then gym... I get home by 8:30 PM. Ain't nobody
> got time to fuck around in the kitchen.
If you can afford the gym, you wouldn't notice a meals tax. Just like all those people in Fairfax City, Vienna, Herndon, Falls Church, and Alexandria already don't. Not to mention Arlington and even the two Manassases.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Asshole Loose Here
()
Date: June 13, 2014 05:40PM
TOak Wrote:
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> Fairfax County politicians, like those across the
> river in Washington, believe that citizens work
> for them, instead of vice versa. Imagine if you go
> into your neighbors wallets or bank accounts. You
> might be restrained at first, just doing so to pay
> for the necessities. But once you saw it was
> pretty easy, you would soon be hanging out in
> strip joints and casinos. And that is American
> politics today.
No, it plainly isn't, but you are just as plainly a worthless ignorant asshole today just like every other day.
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> Fairfax County politicians, like those across the
> river in Washington, believe that citizens work
> for them, instead of vice versa. Imagine if you go
> into your neighbors wallets or bank accounts. You
> might be restrained at first, just doing so to pay
> for the necessities. But once you saw it was
> pretty easy, you would soon be hanging out in
> strip joints and casinos. And that is American
> politics today.
No, it plainly isn't, but you are just as plainly a worthless ignorant asshole today just like every other day.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
TOak
()
Date: June 13, 2014 05:44PM
It seems like the residents of Arlington just noticed. They elected an independent (Republican) recently because they realized all the nonsense that their taxes were being used to pay for, like trolley stops that cost over $1 million per stop. What would have more efficient, taxing people who work to pay for projects that aggrandize and enrich politicians, or letting them keep to spend on what they thought was the best idea. Since they worked for the money, it seems like they have the most interest in seeing it spent well. How has Harry Reid and his family made a fortune in politics?
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Worthless Fucking Asshole
()
Date: June 13, 2014 05:45PM
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> Start paying attention. Everyone. You should be
> extremely outraged!
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Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Major League Asshole
()
Date: June 13, 2014 06:13PM
TOak Wrote:
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> It seems like the residents of Arlington just
> noticed. They elected an independent (Republican)
> recently because they realized all the nonsense
> that their taxes were being used to pay for, like
> trolley stops that cost over $1 million per stop.
The same two meet in the general election this Fall. Placing any bets on your guy, my little goober-fuck?
Your no-tax no-government nirvana doesn't fucking exist and never has. It's a cruel delusion suffered principally by weak-minded victims of corporate and populist propaganda. The nation, the state, and both Arlington and Fairfax counties have a responsibility to protect and address the needs and interests of citizens, but not their stupid ignorant goober asshole opinions.
When one bus-stop design proved too costly in Arlington, a new and less expensive design was commissioned. Columbia Pike is meanwhile on its way to decay. The transit corridor offers a way to bring it back and help it become a vibrant, successful hub of social and economic life in the area. You would hate to see that plan succeed, wouldn't you, fucktard?
> What would have more efficient, taxing people who
> work to pay for projects that aggrandize and
> enrich politicians, or letting them keep to spend
> on what they thought was the best idea. Since they
> worked for the money, it seems like they have the
> most interest in seeing it spent well.
Stupid asshole You are a leech for 20 years, then you work for 40 years, then you are a leech again for 20 years. Do you remember this: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived. Other people provided for you when you were a disgusting little slimeball. Well, more of a one than you are today. You OWE those people. Big time. Pay up, you stinking asshole.
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> It seems like the residents of Arlington just
> noticed. They elected an independent (Republican)
> recently because they realized all the nonsense
> that their taxes were being used to pay for, like
> trolley stops that cost over $1 million per stop.
The same two meet in the general election this Fall. Placing any bets on your guy, my little goober-fuck?
Your no-tax no-government nirvana doesn't fucking exist and never has. It's a cruel delusion suffered principally by weak-minded victims of corporate and populist propaganda. The nation, the state, and both Arlington and Fairfax counties have a responsibility to protect and address the needs and interests of citizens, but not their stupid ignorant goober asshole opinions.
When one bus-stop design proved too costly in Arlington, a new and less expensive design was commissioned. Columbia Pike is meanwhile on its way to decay. The transit corridor offers a way to bring it back and help it become a vibrant, successful hub of social and economic life in the area. You would hate to see that plan succeed, wouldn't you, fucktard?
> What would have more efficient, taxing people who
> work to pay for projects that aggrandize and
> enrich politicians, or letting them keep to spend
> on what they thought was the best idea. Since they
> worked for the money, it seems like they have the
> most interest in seeing it spent well.
Stupid asshole You are a leech for 20 years, then you work for 40 years, then you are a leech again for 20 years. Do you remember this: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived. Other people provided for you when you were a disgusting little slimeball. Well, more of a one than you are today. You OWE those people. Big time. Pay up, you stinking asshole.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
TOak
()
Date: June 13, 2014 07:09PM
Ad hominem attacks and (repeated) name calling, it's the Democratic approach to public debate. The cost of the trolley stops were reduced from the cost of an expensive home after the election and public humiliation of those behind the trolley plan. Also, the U.S. had enviable economic growth and rising standards of living for almost two centuries before regulation state took over.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
TOak
()
Date: June 13, 2014 07:31PM
I will add that my family, though not wealthy, worked hard to take care of me when I was young, which I appreciate and am happy to repay with love and attention and care today. I have provided for my retirement, so I will not be a "leech" in my later years. I also give generously, many times, indeed, what Vice President Joe Biden gives, at least according to media reports.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Crow
()
Date: June 14, 2014 12:00AM
Major League Asshole Wrote:
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> Your no-tax no-government nirvana doesn't fucking
> exist and never has. It's a cruel delusion
> suffered principally by weak-minded victims of
> corporate and populist propaganda. The nation,
> the state, and both Arlington and Fairfax counties
> have a responsibility to protect and address the
> needs and interests of citizens, but not their
> stupid ignorant goober asshole opinions.
Standard dumb strawman bullshit. There's a whole lot of space between no-tax, no-government and million dollar bus stops and silly trolley projects.
>
> When one bus-stop design proved too costly in
> Arlington, a new and less expensive design was
> commissioned. Columbia Pike is meanwhile on its
> way to decay. The transit corridor offers a way
> to bring it back and help it become a vibrant,
> successful hub of social and economic life in the
> area. You would hate to see that plan succeed,
> wouldn't you, fucktard?
>
What are you going to do with all of those poor brown people that you want to displace from the Pike? Already got rid of a lot of them in trade for white yups and hipsters. Not many places left to go.
Got some room in your neighborhood for several hundred affordable housing units? Yeah, I thought not.
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> Your no-tax no-government nirvana doesn't fucking
> exist and never has. It's a cruel delusion
> suffered principally by weak-minded victims of
> corporate and populist propaganda. The nation,
> the state, and both Arlington and Fairfax counties
> have a responsibility to protect and address the
> needs and interests of citizens, but not their
> stupid ignorant goober asshole opinions.
Standard dumb strawman bullshit. There's a whole lot of space between no-tax, no-government and million dollar bus stops and silly trolley projects.
>
> When one bus-stop design proved too costly in
> Arlington, a new and less expensive design was
> commissioned. Columbia Pike is meanwhile on its
> way to decay. The transit corridor offers a way
> to bring it back and help it become a vibrant,
> successful hub of social and economic life in the
> area. You would hate to see that plan succeed,
> wouldn't you, fucktard?
>
What are you going to do with all of those poor brown people that you want to displace from the Pike? Already got rid of a lot of them in trade for white yups and hipsters. Not many places left to go.
Got some room in your neighborhood for several hundred affordable housing units? Yeah, I thought not.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
mark j
()
Date: June 15, 2014 07:31PM
My drive to another county is short...see ya there
Posted by:
chuckhoffmann
()
Date: June 15, 2014 09:41PM
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2014 03:25PM by chuckhoffmann.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/2014 03:25PM by chuckhoffmann.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Ignorance is rampant
()
Date: June 15, 2014 10:02PM
Why, oh why, do I have to educate you fucktards?
Let's start with the fact that there already is a 6 percent meals tax. The proposal is to increase it.
As far as the inequity of "targeting a specific industry", boo fucking hoo, check out the taxes on hotel and car rentals.
Do the math, guys. Just a modest 2 percent cola for teachers costs what?
40 million?.... About....times that by 5 years plus double digit increases in bene costs. Oh and add in an additional 10000 students.
What is the number.....maybe 300 million, maybe more.
Where the hell is that coming from? Anyone?
Real estate? Good luck.
We send tons of tax dollars to the confederacy in Richmond and get jack back.
Either we tax locally or we secede from the state. Nova vs rova folks.
Let's start with the fact that there already is a 6 percent meals tax. The proposal is to increase it.
As far as the inequity of "targeting a specific industry", boo fucking hoo, check out the taxes on hotel and car rentals.
Do the math, guys. Just a modest 2 percent cola for teachers costs what?
40 million?.... About....times that by 5 years plus double digit increases in bene costs. Oh and add in an additional 10000 students.
What is the number.....maybe 300 million, maybe more.
Where the hell is that coming from? Anyone?
Real estate? Good luck.
We send tons of tax dollars to the confederacy in Richmond and get jack back.
Either we tax locally or we secede from the state. Nova vs rova folks.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
Hindenburg
()
Date: June 15, 2014 11:15PM
chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> I'm thinking the BoS is using the referendum on
> the meals tax as a sop to FCPS.
>
> From what I can tell, there's no way it's going to
> pass. The April 7, 1992 referendum on a meals tax
> was defeated 57% to 43%, and I'm pretty confident
> this one will go down in similarly incendiary
> fashion.
>
> If everyone knows it's going to be defeated, why
> hold a referendum?
>
> Because the BoS can then figuratively shrug its
> shoulders say to FCPS, "Look, we tried to pass a
> new tax to give you more money and it was
> defeated. There's nothing we can do." It's
> political theater at its finest.
>
> It's also possible that they'll use the failure of
> the meals tax as an excuse to increase property
> taxes more, but they're running into more and more
> resistance on that front and eventually the voters
> will say, "Enough!"
Think you're right with the down in flames prediction. Referenda to increase taxes like this usually don't go over very well. Much easier to pass bond measures since 99% of voters have no clue what they are other than seeing the words schools, parks, and libraries so it must be a good thing. Property tax increases aren't popular either but they're usually more incremental and don't need to be put to voters directly.
You're over thinking it with the FCPS angle. I think some do believe that it could pass. The hook in the PR campaign will be to present it as something that somebody else will be paying for, not you. Doubt that enough will buy that though.
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> I'm thinking the BoS is using the referendum on
> the meals tax as a sop to FCPS.
>
> From what I can tell, there's no way it's going to
> pass. The April 7, 1992 referendum on a meals tax
> was defeated 57% to 43%, and I'm pretty confident
> this one will go down in similarly incendiary
> fashion.
>
> If everyone knows it's going to be defeated, why
> hold a referendum?
>
> Because the BoS can then figuratively shrug its
> shoulders say to FCPS, "Look, we tried to pass a
> new tax to give you more money and it was
> defeated. There's nothing we can do." It's
> political theater at its finest.
>
> It's also possible that they'll use the failure of
> the meals tax as an excuse to increase property
> taxes more, but they're running into more and more
> resistance on that front and eventually the voters
> will say, "Enough!"
Think you're right with the down in flames prediction. Referenda to increase taxes like this usually don't go over very well. Much easier to pass bond measures since 99% of voters have no clue what they are other than seeing the words schools, parks, and libraries so it must be a good thing. Property tax increases aren't popular either but they're usually more incremental and don't need to be put to voters directly.
You're over thinking it with the FCPS angle. I think some do believe that it could pass. The hook in the PR campaign will be to present it as something that somebody else will be paying for, not you. Doubt that enough will buy that though.
Re: No appetite for Fairfax County food tax
Posted by:
from what era is that photo?
()
Date: June 15, 2014 11:16PM
That picture with the latins grabbing their crotch and middle finger up looks like it's circa early 90's and the clothing says the same!
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> while
> > actually being unable to establish any valid
> point
> > at all are already forced to pay the Cassandra
> Tax
> > -- the curse of being right about everything
> while
> > having none of you braindead ignorant
> right-wing
> > asshole fucktards believe a word of it. Stupid
> > band of uneducated dumbshits.
>
>
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> Stupid Asshole Alert Wrote:
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> >
> > These people you childishly call "libtards"
> while
> > actually being unable to establish any valid
> point
> > at all are already forced to pay the Cassandra
> Tax
> > -- the curse of being right about everything
> while
> > having none of you braindead ignorant
> right-wing
> > asshole fucktards believe a word of it. Stupid
> > band of uneducated dumbshits.
>
>
> STFU libtard.
>
>
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