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Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: News patrol ()
Date: April 29, 2014 03:51PM

Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA: Punishment too harsh?
I would say so! He made a trangression. What happened to forgiveness?
That $2.5 million fine is way to high. He doesn't have that kind of money lying around. A $10,000 fine would be appriote.

He can't go to any NBA facilities, meetings, etc. They are trying to force him to sell the team that he bought with his own money!

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Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been banned for life by the NBA in response to racist comments the league says he made in a recorded conversation.

NBA commissioner Adam Silver said Tuesday that he will try to force the controversial owner to sell his franchise. Sterling has also been fined $2.5 million, and Silver made no effort to hide his outrage over the comments.

Silver said a league investigation found that the NBA's longest-tenured owner was in fact the person on the audiotapes that were released over the weekend.

Sterling
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As part of his lifetime ban, Donald Sterling can't attend NBA games or practices, be present at any Clippers facility, or participate in any business or player personnel decisions involving the team.
"We stand together in condemning Mr. Sterling's views," Silver said. "They simply have no place in the NBA."

Sterling acknowledged he was the man on the tape, Silver said.

Sterling is immediately barred from attending any NBA games or practices, be present at any Clippers office or facility, or participate in any business or player personnel decisions involving the team. He also cannot participate in any league business going forward.

"This league is far bigger than any one owner, any one coach and any one player," Silver said.

The woman on the recording cooperated with the NBA, as did a third person who was in the room when the tape was made, a source told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne. The woman verified to the league that it was her and Sterling on the tapes, according to the source.

The recordings that have been released were made last September, the source said.

The penalties issued against Sterling drew an immediate reaction from players, teams and executives around the NBA.

The Clippers released a statement shortly after Silver's announcement, saying that the team "wholeheartedly" supports the discipline.

"We wholeheartedly support and embrace the decision by the NBA and Commissioner Adam Silver today," the Clippers' statement said. "Now the healing process begins."

Lakers legend and Hall of Famer Magic Johnson, who was mentioned in the audio recording, took to Twitter to voice his support for Silver's ruling.



Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban also tweeted his approval.


Sacramento mayor Kevin Johnson, the former Phoenix Suns star and acting liaison for the National Basketball Players Association, said at a separate news conference Tuesday that he is proud of the league's decision.

"Adam Silver is not only the owner's commissioner, he's the player's commissioner," Johnson said.

The NAACP, which rescinded a lifetime achievement award initially intended for Sterling, also applauded the league's sanctions against Sterling.

"The NAACP is pleased the NBA is taking swift and strong action against Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling for his racist and offensive remarks," the statement said. "Their decision to ban Mr. Sterling indefinitely from the league, seek his removal from ownership and fine him $2.5 million -- the maximum amount under NBA rules -- is both welcomed and supported.

"The alleged statements made by Mr. Sterling were deplorable and cannot be tolerated. Bigotry and hatred have no place in the NBA or any other arena of our society."

The fine will be donated to organizations dedicated to anti-discrimination and tolerance efforts that will be jointly selected by the NBA and the Players Association, Silver said.

Sterling's comments were released over the weekend by TMZ and Deadspin, and numerous NBA owners and players have condemned them. Even President Barack Obama weighed in on the crisis, the first of Silver's brief tenure as commissioner.

The announcement of the sanctions came just hours before the Clippers will play the Golden State Warriors in Game 5 of a knotted-up Western Conference first-round playoff series.

Several sponsors either terminated or suspended their business dealings with the team on Monday, though individual deals that some of those companies have with Clippers stars like Chris Paul and Blake Griffin will continue and were not affected.

Still, it was a clear statement that companies, like just about everyone inside the league, were outraged.

The issues raised when the tapes were released over the weekend represent just another chapter in Sterling's long history of being at the center of controversy.

In the past, he's faced extensive federal charges of civil rights violations and racial discrimination in his business dealings, and some of his race-related statements would be described as shocking.

He has also been sued in the past for sexual harassment by former employees, and even the woman who goes by the name "V. Stiviano" -- allegedly the female voice on the tapes at the center of this scandal -- describes Sterling in court documents as a man "with a big toothy grin brandishing his sexual prowess in the faces of the Paparazzi and caring less what anyone else thought, the least of which, his own wife."

Stiviano is being sued by Rochelle Sterling, who is seeking to reclaim at least $1.8 million in cash and gifts that her husband allegedly provided the woman.
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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: April 29, 2014 04:09PM

Thank goodness we have another thread on this in Fairfax Forum. The six in Off-Topic just weren't enough.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: But What About ()
Date: April 29, 2014 04:14PM

So nigger Jay-Z wears his black supremacy medallion in public and it's ok? Niggers call each other niggers on the court and it's ok?

And why is no one blaming Sterling's whore for recording what was supposed to be a private conversation and giving it to the media whores at TMZ?

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: way too much ()
Date: April 29, 2014 04:16PM

If it was a nigger saying something about white people, they would have gotten a pat on the back.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: unreal ()
Date: April 29, 2014 04:20PM

My question is, where's the scrutiny on the NAACP???? They gave this guy a Lifetime Achievement Award, a President's award and one other in recent years. In fact, he was scheduled to receive another honor next month.

Do they screen anyone?? No they don't! They simply allow racists or anyone else looking for minority "cred" to write checks and they'll give them an award. It's an organized shakedown and they are perfectly willing to be bought off - in fact that's their business model.

Shame on them as well as this douchebag owner.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Lagree. ()
Date: April 29, 2014 04:22PM

People are confusing the meaning of free-speech and first amendment rights as it relates to private industry. Mr. Sterling (an NAACP Lifetime Achievement Award recipient) is entitled to say anything he likes short of "Fire!" in a theatre. Meh...he's banned for life. Meh...he's fined $2.5M. You can't take the team from him. He has people who oversee the day to day operations and he will make up that $2.5M by the end of the next fiscal quarter. He has numerous real estate holdings that pay him a handsome amount of money. The Clippers, one of the worst performing teams in professional sports over the last 30 years are simply a non-revenue generating asset that he hopes to have bought low and will sell (when he decides to sell) for as higher a price from what he paid as he can. It's private property. Mr. Sterling's private property. All you've done is try to lower the profile of a man who has said some words that you disagree with. Additionally, the recorded statements were obtained without his consent and will not be admissible in a court of law. So, when he counter-sues on the basis of 1st Amendment...Mr. Sterling and NOT the NBA will prevail here.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Mr. reality ()
Date: April 29, 2014 04:23PM

Who the fuck watches basketball?

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Real sports ()
Date: April 29, 2014 04:49PM

Mr. reality Wrote:
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> Who the fuck watches basketball?


People who like real sports! Basketball is the respect sport of them all.

Baseball is just a bunch of over-paid pussys standing in a field and stuffing their lips with chewing tobacco.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: lagree not thoughtful ()
Date: April 29, 2014 08:43PM

Lagree - the Clippers are indeed a revenue generating asset, especially now that they play at Staples (like the Lakers) and that they are now a better team than the Lakers. The Clippers do not appraise like the Lakers - the latest appraisal is around $550M, but since the Milwaukee Bucks, a team in a marginal market, just sold for around that amount, the Clippers could fetch $800M - not bad for a $12M investment of Mr. Sterling's.

The NBA's by-laws make it difficult to force Sterling out. They are written to address cases of insolvency and not a complete lack of moral fabric. Silver's ruling may indeed be a catalyt to forcing Sterling out. No one will accept a trade to the Clippers, and I can see where draft choices will even refuse to play. The value of the franchise with Sterling as an equity owner will likely precipitously decline. The team is worth far more without Sterling that with him, especially given where they play. Sterling likes his millions, and he will get them when he conducts an auction of the business.

The First Amendment is irrelevant. The NBA does not care about the First Amendment, as it only involves abridgement of speech by the Government. Sterling's one avenue in litigation is to plan to move the team - not so easy given the team's commitments in LA - and bring an antitrust suit against the NBA - which would leave the NBA a bit vulnerable. But this involves litigation and money and this guy, while stubborn and indeed long known as the worst owner in sports, will likely see the writing on the wall and sell, my guess is relatively quickly before devaluation hits the franchise.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Donald Sterling ()
Date: April 29, 2014 09:53PM

Can't wait until all my lawsuits are paid off on this false accusation...

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: As The Firefighters Arrive ()
Date: April 29, 2014 10:25PM

And find Sterling's ass burning one says to the others.. "You know he has given huge amounts to Democrat Gun Grabbers"

"Fuck him let him burn Phil"

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: April 29, 2014 10:34PM

Why does Adam Silver look like a nosferatu with AIDS....

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Good luck! ()
Date: April 29, 2014 10:52PM

Donald Sterling Wrote:
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> Can't wait until all my lawsuits are paid off on
> this false accusation...


Good luck!

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: JREwing ()
Date: April 29, 2014 11:37PM

He just tryin' to run a bitnet now whats wrong with dat?

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Jack Lacey ()
Date: April 29, 2014 11:39PM

How many violations of the Constitution happened today? At least five. But the talking heads don't dare talk about that.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Lagree. ()
Date: April 30, 2014 01:43PM

lagree not thoughtful Wrote:
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> Lagree - the Clippers are indeed a revenue
> generating asset, especially now that they play at
> Staples (like the Lakers) and that they are now a
> better team than the Lakers. The Clippers do not
> appraise like the Lakers - the latest appraisal is
> around $550M, but since the Milwaukee Bucks, a
> team in a marginal market, just sold for around
> that amount, the Clippers could fetch $800M - not
> bad for a $12M investment of Mr. Sterling's.
>
> The NBA's by-laws make it difficult to force
> Sterling out. They are written to address cases
> of insolvency and not a complete lack of moral
> fabric. Silver's ruling may indeed be a catalyt
> to forcing Sterling out. No one will accept a
> trade to the Clippers, and I can see where draft
> choices will even refuse to play. The value of
> the franchise with Sterling as an equity owner
> will likely precipitously decline. The team is
> worth far more without Sterling that with him,
> especially given where they play. Sterling likes
> his millions, and he will get them when he
> conducts an auction of the business.
>
> The First Amendment is irrelevant. The NBA does
> not care about the First Amendment, as it only
> involves abridgement of speech by the Government.
> Sterling's one avenue in litigation is to plan to
> move the team - not so easy given the team's
> commitments in LA - and bring an antitrust suit
> against the NBA - which would leave the NBA a bit
> vulnerable. But this involves litigation and
> money and this guy, while stubborn and indeed long
> known as the worst owner in sports, will likely
> see the writing on the wall and sell, my guess is
> relatively quickly before devaluation hits the
> franchise.

The First Amendment is completely relevant here. As it relates to a civil court case. Which is what you're going to have beginning in a few months once all of the filings have been made.

You have a recorded conversation which was made without Sterling's consent. In a court of law, that renders the recording in admissible as evidence. Without that recording, the NBA's case falls apart. Oh sure, they'll trot out his litigation history, his business practices, etc. The judge is going to look at that and say, "Mr. Sterling's last court appearance was in 2009. Why did you wait until now to file suit? If he's such a menace to society and your league...why didn't David Stern take action back when he was still commissioner? Case dismissed...Mr. Sterling in accordance with the NBA by-laws will indeed serve a lifetime ban and pay the fine as stipulated by Mr. Silver but, the Clippers team is Mr. Sterling's asset to own as long as he likes."

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Yes... But... ()
Date: April 30, 2014 02:00PM

Early indications are that the conversation in question (as well as 99 hours and 45 minutes of other conversations) were NOT taped without Mr. Sterling's consent but, rather, explicitly WITH his consent.

Indications are that he WANTED his conversations taped because it would help him refresh his recollection of what he said during them.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Lagree. ()
Date: April 30, 2014 04:05PM

Yes... But... Wrote:
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> Early indications are that the conversation in
> question (as well as 99 hours and 45 minutes of
> other conversations) were NOT taped without Mr.
> Sterling's consent but, rather, explicitly WITH
> his consent.
>
> Indications are that he WANTED his conversations
> taped because it would help him refresh his
> recollection of what he said during them.

Could you please post a link to the "early indications"?

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: Dennis at AA Burger ()
Date: April 30, 2014 04:40PM

Insult your customer and lose business. That's grounds for termination.



We at All-American Burger believe the customer is always right.

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Re: Donald Sterling receives lifetime ban from NBA and $2.5 million fine: Punishment too harsh?
Posted by: strunk ()
Date: April 30, 2014 07:09PM

way too much Wrote:
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> If it was a nigger saying something about white
> people, they would have gotten a pat on the back.

A singular noun requires a singular pronoun (i.e., "he" not "they"). It is no wonder that so many people think all white people are stupid.

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