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Re: Fairfax County R.E. Tax - 7.5% Increase
Posted by:
Henry Block
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Date: April 30, 2014 08:41PM
newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> Blessing of the Government Taxes
If you need to invoke some sky-god rot, your arguments truly are exhausted. My advoce would be to realize that tax courts have never recognized any such on behalf of other whiners, and that they will not on your behalf either.
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> Blessing of the Government Taxes
If you need to invoke some sky-god rot, your arguments truly are exhausted. My advoce would be to realize that tax courts have never recognized any such on behalf of other whiners, and that they will not on your behalf either.
Re: Fairfax County R.E. Tax - 7.5% Increase
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: April 30, 2014 08:51PM
Just having some fun. Now back to reality.
Again, you do realize that there are tens of thousands of households in Fairfax County that make less than the median income and suddenly having the equivalent of 2 or 3 or 4 car payments per year thrust upon them in the form of raised taxes is stressful. Especially, when they were forced into a new job at a reduced salary. And they were unable to keep their 16 year old car going and had to buy another one. But hey - since half the county is making $150K go ahead and raises everyone's taxes.
Since you are no doubt progressive leaning - what do you think about having the property tax rate tiered based on assessed value? That way the truly wealthy would pay their "fair" share. Why should folks who own a $250K property have to pay the same tax rate as someone who can afford a $500K or $1M property?
Plus that would have the added benefit of making financial decisions and calculations even more complex and difficult providing more job security for folks like you.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/30/2014 08:54PM by newgatedenizen.
Again, you do realize that there are tens of thousands of households in Fairfax County that make less than the median income and suddenly having the equivalent of 2 or 3 or 4 car payments per year thrust upon them in the form of raised taxes is stressful. Especially, when they were forced into a new job at a reduced salary. And they were unable to keep their 16 year old car going and had to buy another one. But hey - since half the county is making $150K go ahead and raises everyone's taxes.
Since you are no doubt progressive leaning - what do you think about having the property tax rate tiered based on assessed value? That way the truly wealthy would pay their "fair" share. Why should folks who own a $250K property have to pay the same tax rate as someone who can afford a $500K or $1M property?
Plus that would have the added benefit of making financial decisions and calculations even more complex and difficult providing more job security for folks like you.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/30/2014 08:54PM by newgatedenizen.
Re: Fairfax County R.E. Tax - 7.5% Increase
Posted by:
Plesiosaurus
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Date: July 29, 2014 08:46PM
"Social Security and Medicare will not go
> away---there's too much support for those programs"...uh-uh!
Well, sorry to have to report this to you, but these programs are both going away. The date they were passing along for the demise of Social Security system reported on the news yesterday has been moved up to 2033 from 2035 that they were touting last year (for Social Security bankruptcy). At this rate, beginning possibly much before then, everybody who is cvurrently receiving Social Security payout will start being reduced by up to 33% until the government account all runs out of cash.
The other one, Medicaid for disability, will be bankrupt in just a couple of years, so they want to start moving what is left of the social security funds over into the disability fund to continue funding the non-productive ones that don't want to find a job even if it could be tailored for their "disability". As many of those on disability aren't really that disabled that they could not work an appropriately "tailored" job, and given that the media constantly issues out ads through the media that beg everyone to apply for disability through a "lawyer" who will push it through for them no matter what, how long will those in retirement have to live before they are completely cut off? And without pensions, Social Security,the necessary savings amount of 1.2 million dollars necessary to live on for up to 30 more years to fund themselves and their needs when everything will be going up with inflation, and the fourth item--possible availability of a job, when millions who want jobs can't find one--well--
There needs to be a way that those approaching retirement can escape this coming hell simply by a request to receive in a total lump sum payment all of their social security value up front, take it all to another more solvent and fiscally conservative country (like you do to switch out your IRAs), put it then into that country's retirement system, and transfer their citizenship off of a currently sinking ship, before they have to face an enforced shortened lifespan ahead to begin when they are forced to apply for a Social Security check that is no longer going to be there. But the required payments into the system will not stop when the checks stop coming, so how will they be able to live like that?
There are still a few other solvent countries around the globe that don't have plans to turn their retirees into soylent green wafers, I am quite sure. Some of these also have a political system actually based on "Rule of Law" also. And with a simple change of the emigration/immigration laws of both the US and countries desiring to participate in such a citizen swap with whom such an arrangement might actually be made--maybe a swap of a US retiree family coming from the US as a new citizen in that country, and in return, that solvent country can trade out one of their newly captured undesirable illegal aliens to be exported back to the US, whose faux leadership covets these so much at present for the purpose of ensuring their continued political solvency in the future!
That might tie in with the issues with companies moving overseas, also. Those retirees still wanting to work in retirement can serve as a source of workers for them in the new country. Companies would be able to take their workers with them who wish to go. Taxes? Medicare? Why become a welfare guinea pig in the US for the rest of your life if you can find a place where it is cheaper to live, where healthcare is a fraction of the cost it is here, and where retirees are going to live anyway?
> away---there's too much support for those programs"...uh-uh!
Well, sorry to have to report this to you, but these programs are both going away. The date they were passing along for the demise of Social Security system reported on the news yesterday has been moved up to 2033 from 2035 that they were touting last year (for Social Security bankruptcy). At this rate, beginning possibly much before then, everybody who is cvurrently receiving Social Security payout will start being reduced by up to 33% until the government account all runs out of cash.
The other one, Medicaid for disability, will be bankrupt in just a couple of years, so they want to start moving what is left of the social security funds over into the disability fund to continue funding the non-productive ones that don't want to find a job even if it could be tailored for their "disability". As many of those on disability aren't really that disabled that they could not work an appropriately "tailored" job, and given that the media constantly issues out ads through the media that beg everyone to apply for disability through a "lawyer" who will push it through for them no matter what, how long will those in retirement have to live before they are completely cut off? And without pensions, Social Security,the necessary savings amount of 1.2 million dollars necessary to live on for up to 30 more years to fund themselves and their needs when everything will be going up with inflation, and the fourth item--possible availability of a job, when millions who want jobs can't find one--well--
There needs to be a way that those approaching retirement can escape this coming hell simply by a request to receive in a total lump sum payment all of their social security value up front, take it all to another more solvent and fiscally conservative country (like you do to switch out your IRAs), put it then into that country's retirement system, and transfer their citizenship off of a currently sinking ship, before they have to face an enforced shortened lifespan ahead to begin when they are forced to apply for a Social Security check that is no longer going to be there. But the required payments into the system will not stop when the checks stop coming, so how will they be able to live like that?
There are still a few other solvent countries around the globe that don't have plans to turn their retirees into soylent green wafers, I am quite sure. Some of these also have a political system actually based on "Rule of Law" also. And with a simple change of the emigration/immigration laws of both the US and countries desiring to participate in such a citizen swap with whom such an arrangement might actually be made--maybe a swap of a US retiree family coming from the US as a new citizen in that country, and in return, that solvent country can trade out one of their newly captured undesirable illegal aliens to be exported back to the US, whose faux leadership covets these so much at present for the purpose of ensuring their continued political solvency in the future!
That might tie in with the issues with companies moving overseas, also. Those retirees still wanting to work in retirement can serve as a source of workers for them in the new country. Companies would be able to take their workers with them who wish to go. Taxes? Medicare? Why become a welfare guinea pig in the US for the rest of your life if you can find a place where it is cheaper to live, where healthcare is a fraction of the cost it is here, and where retirees are going to live anyway?
Re: Fairfax County R.E. Tax - 7.5% Increase
Posted by:
readaboutit!!!
()
Date: August 04, 2014 09:05PM
The rates are going up, in spite of the fact that Fairfax County has a big budget surplus, because they are going to be building a ton of low-income housing to put all the new illegal immigrants in.
Also, longterm planning for all these new immigrants will necessitate loads of ghetto highrises with (40 floors full of people paying their taxes as part of their subsidized rent expense?) all backed by HUD, Fannie, Freddie, etc? This may be the future for most of the Fairfax land that now has only one owner-occupied house on it. The developers with their eyes on the creation of the prize can push up the land values until everyone is forced to sell and move out, then they take the land and put up--well, drive through the new unfolding Merrifield. That will very soon be our future too.
Also, longterm planning for all these new immigrants will necessitate loads of ghetto highrises with (40 floors full of people paying their taxes as part of their subsidized rent expense?) all backed by HUD, Fannie, Freddie, etc? This may be the future for most of the Fairfax land that now has only one owner-occupied house on it. The developers with their eyes on the creation of the prize can push up the land values until everyone is forced to sell and move out, then they take the land and put up--well, drive through the new unfolding Merrifield. That will very soon be our future too.