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Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: Take me out to the Ball Game ()
Date: April 05, 2014 09:36PM

Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
http://www.wtop.com/120/3596985/Va-ballpark-proposal-stirs-slave-trade-memories

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A proposal to build a ballpark in the slave-trading center of the former capital of the Confederacy has stirred opposition from African-Americans and others who contend it is "sacred ground" and no place to play baseball.

Opponents heckled Mayor Dwight C. Jones in November when he outlined plans for the $200 million, stadium-centered economic development project in Shockoe Bottom, the city's oldest neighborhood and home to its lucrative slave trade in the decades leading to the Civil War.

By some estimates, more 300,000 men, women and children were jailed, bought and sold in the Bottom and shipped throughout the Southern states in the decades leading to the Civil War.

The stadium proposal has unleashed pent-up frustration among those who believe the city has literally buried that shameful chapter of its history.

Opponents have even recruited for their cause descendants of Solomon Northrop, whose tale of being kidnapped and sold into slavery was the basis of the celebrated movie "12 Years a Slave." He was held in a Richmond slave jail before being taken to New Orleans.

If nothing else, the debate has created the prospect of a long-overdue conversation about Richmond's shameful role in the slave trade. Richmond was second only to New Orleans in the slave commerce.

Maurie D. McInnis, a scholar who has studied the slave trade in Richmond, said the city should embrace the moment.

"There is an energy and attention to a history that has been bulldozed away and that needs to be acknowledged and made accessible to a public audience that clearly has a real appetite for this history," she said.

Shockoe Bottom lies east of the city's financial district and a few blocks from the Capitol. It is home to nightclubs, shops and restaurants and lofts carved out of former tobacco warehouses.

While some have questioned the stadium development proposal for other reasons, the fiercest opposition has come from those who fear the construction will hamper future efforts to uncover remnants of the slave trade beneath generations of development.

"We are just now beginning to be able study what's here," said Ana Edwards, among the leading opponents of the stadium. "What they are proposing to do is essentially going to make it impossible to go any further."

Supporters of the stadium have countered that brick-and-mortar remnants of the slave trade have long ago disappeared. They also have proposed a slave memorial and a $30 million museum as part of the project.

Jones, who was greeted with chants of "Shame" when he publicly outlined the development, has also has proposed archaeological work that would recover slave-trade artifacts for future public display.

Jones, who is African American, said in an interview the issue is "very personal" to him and the overall development will create jobs and economic growth for the city of 200,000.

A series of slave trail markers tell the Bottom's history, from the James River where slaves were transported on steamboats for sale, to an archaeological dig at Lumpkin's Slave Jail, one of the largest slave-holding businesses and one of the more notorious. It was called "The Devil's Half-Acre" for the cruelty of its owner. A memorial now marks the site.

Nearby, a parking lot that once entombed a burial ground for thousands of slaves and freed blacks has been peeled away. It now is a vast grassy expense beneath a tangle of interstate highways.

During the neighborhood's heyday as a slave-trading center it was home to hotels, financial institutions and shops, including those that provided clothing to dress up slaves who were destined to be servants.

The business of slavery was conducted openly, with slaves marching to the rail station or the port. Auction houses generated millions in pre-Civil War dollars in revenue. Some traders served in city government.

The stadium development has the support of many business owners in the Bottom. They believe it will make a destination of the area, which has scared away some city dwellers because of highly publicized incidents of violence. Business owners say the rowdiness is overstated.

Paul Goldman, the former chairman of the state Democratic Party, is seeking to take the decision about the development out of the hands of city officials through a petition drive to blunt or at least slow the project. He believes the existing stadium is just fine.

"How can you decide anything unless you know where the history is?" he asked. "They'll just bulldoze the history."

For Edwards, the Bottom has a personal connection. She has traced some of her ancestors to the slave trade there. She can see some development, but not a ballpark.

"A lot of people want their stories told, a lot of people want to be acknowledged," Edwards said as she stood in the city's Old Negro Burial Ground, which was once covered by a parking lot. "We want that story to reflect the contributions, the sacrifice, the achievements -- the grit that makes us who we are."

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: Take me out to the Ball Game ()
Date: April 05, 2014 09:37PM

David Napier, owner of The Old City Bar in Richmond’s former slave-trading district, is president of the Shockoe Bottom Neighborhood Association, is photographed in his bar in Richmond, Va., Wednesday April 3, 2014. The association has backed an economic development proposal that includes a baseball stadium. Some opponents argue the national pastime shouldn’t be played were slaves were jailed, bought and sold. Napier says the development can enhance the city’s oldest neighborhood and also pay homage to the hundreds of thousands of slaves that were traded in the streets of the Bottom in the decades leading to the Civil War.
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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 05, 2014 10:22PM

People are stupid.

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: aadfdsfasdfasdfsadf ()
Date: April 06, 2014 05:19AM

Take me out to the Ball Game Wrote:
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> For Edwards, the Bottom has a personal connection.
> She has traced some of her ancestors to the slave
> trade there. She can see some development, but not
> a ballpark.
>
> "A lot of people want their stories told, a lot of
> people want to be acknowledged," Edwards said as
> she stood in the city's Old Negro Burial Ground,
> which was once covered by a parking lot. "We want
> that story to reflect the contributions, the
> sacrifice, the achievements -- the grit that makes
> us who we are."

They want to build a stadium over an area where slave's graves were? BAD IDEA!

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: libs suck it ()
Date: April 06, 2014 07:07AM

Liberals will complain about anything just to complain and prevent any kind of economic benefit. Fucking nigs sold nigs. Deal with it and move on. Don't you libs still have to protest the name redskins?

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: cDjj7 ()
Date: April 06, 2014 07:25AM

libs suck it Wrote:
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> Liberals will complain about anything just to
> complain and prevent any kind of economic benefit.
> Fucking nigs sold nigs. Deal with it and move on.
> Don't you libs still have to protest the name
> redskins?

That was in Africa ass, not here in America. Show me one black slave owner.

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: edumaction ()
Date: April 06, 2014 07:38AM

cDjj7 Wrote:
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>
> That was in Africa ass, not here in America. Show
> me one black slave owner.


http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2821/before-the-civil-war-were-some-slave-owners-black

Or hell, google is your friend as well...

https://www.google.com/search?q=American+Black+slave+owner&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=Palemoon:en-US:official&client=firefox&channel=fflb

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: JUypD ()
Date: April 06, 2014 08:08AM

"Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories"

Memories? I want to meet this person who remembers slave trading.

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: libs suck it ()
Date: April 06, 2014 08:17AM

cDjj7 Wrote:
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> libs suck it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Liberals will complain about anything just to
> > complain and prevent any kind of economic
> benefit.
> > Fucking nigs sold nigs. Deal with it and move
> on.
> > Don't you libs still have to protest the name
> > redskins?
>
> That was in Africa ass, not here in America. Show
> me one black slave owner.

How do you know a lib is a dumb fuck?

They try to communicate.

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: pd6un ()
Date: April 06, 2014 08:22AM

Shit, libs still think terrorist Hussein Obama is the first black president. That public school lack of education doesn't teach them real American history. Liberal public schools rewrite history. God forbid libs learn there were 8 presidents before Washington and the first was a Moor.

Libtards!

LOLZ!

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 06, 2014 12:38PM

I thought the first President under the Articles of Confederation was John Hanson of Maryland. There was a dispute about his ancestry, but it was over whether he was of English or Scandanavian ancestry..

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: yupblack ()
Date: April 06, 2014 01:39PM

pd6un Wrote:
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> Shit, libs still think terrorist Hussein Obama is
> the first black president. That public school lack
> of education doesn't teach them real American
> history. Liberal public schools rewrite history.
> God forbid libs learn there were 8 presidents
> before Washington and the first was a Moor.
>
> Libtards!
>
> LOLZ!


Peyton Randolph (September 10, 1721 – October 22, 1775) was a planter and public official from the Colony of Virginia. He served as speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses, chairman of the Virginia Conventions, and the first President of the Continental Congress.

Randolph was born in Tazewell Hall,[3][4] Williamsburg, Virginia[5] to a prominent family. His parents were Sir John Randolph,[6] the son of William Randolph, and Susannah Beverley, the daughter of Peter Beverley; his brother was John Randolph. His father died when he was 16.

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: couldbeblack ()
Date: April 06, 2014 01:41PM

Samuel Huntington (July 16, 1731 [O.S. July 5, 1731] – January 5, 1796) was a jurist, statesman, and Patriot in the American Revolution from Connecticut. As a delegate to the Continental Congress, he signed the Declaration of Independence and the Articles of Confederation. He also served as President of the Continental Congress from 1779 to 1781, chief justice of the Connecticut Supreme Court from 1784 to 1785, and the 18th Governor of Connecticut from 1786 until his death.

Samuel was born to Nathaniel and Mehetabel Huntington on July 16,[1][2] 1731 in Windham, Connecticut (his birthplace is now in Scotland, Connecticut, which broke off from Windham). He was the fourth of ten children, but the oldest son. He had a limited education in the common schools, then was self-educated. When Samuel was 16 he was apprenticed to a cooper, but also continued to help his father on the farm. His education came from the library of Rev. Ebenezer Devotion and books borrowed from local lawyers.
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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: PNjHT ()
Date: April 07, 2014 11:45AM

bullshit you remember the slave trade days your grandad didn't

and i say that assuming your a damn democrat and fuck and breed quickly

and what about italian slavery in NY, irish up N., chinese shrimp fishers . black enslaving black back then and still now in africa ?

fucking bull shit me

"You Don't Know the South"

if you from here you can say it's been so long since business hired illegals fearing a discrimination lawsuit you can't remember when it wasn't that way.

that you can't remember when DC wasn't controlled by "the minority" and how they dispurse funds: that's there business but they are a crooked cruel city of thrive or die and king of the hill

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Virginia ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: Take me out to the Ball Game ()
Date: April 07, 2014 11:53AM


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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: Nn7yT ()
Date: April 07, 2014 01:46PM

DC gov members have been in Fiarfax doing pitches to build "police security huts wiht high tech equip, one way mirrors, and room for a few 'officers' during the game" in all fairfax HS

you'd think they'd get their asses booted out. no. we're talking a county gov that invited entanglements with DC Metro instead of their own VA rail

yea. remember those old slaves.

sorry i have other problems

like worrying about how many millions each of these facist fuck city deals costs and when the bastards are going to be at my door

like that

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: YmjC9 ()
Date: April 07, 2014 01:48PM

high tech gov hut (workers fucking inside) seen on field

everybody off the field

it's no longer a nice game and costing peoples heads

everyone off the damn field

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: K7xC9 ()
Date: April 07, 2014 01:55PM

i coudl tell from teh wording and structure it was copied from a city proposal from a large city

it was length and technical and the person supposedly proposing it: practically a teen

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: LL9Mb ()
Date: April 07, 2014 01:57PM

answers to questions were no where near co-ordinate with the "contract proposal" wording

yet the county people seemed giddy about the opportunity of blowing more taxes , they were happy giggling and such

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: jvHUc ()
Date: April 07, 2014 01:58PM

spit on your glove walk off the field

million dollar facists watching you play from two way glass, probably on drugs fucking. do you have a copy of the key to the hut on the field ?

FUCK THAT

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: JKKdT ()
Date: April 07, 2014 02:03PM

how many blacks never get a basketball that holds air when that proposal goes through, city designed structure, power, import electronics, new regulations written, staff, the million dollar damn works ?

bullshit. it's not about color it's about the color of money.

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: nigs gonna nig ()
Date: April 07, 2014 05:58PM

First black president John Hanson.
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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: just sayin ()
Date: April 07, 2014 06:40PM

libs suck it Wrote:
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> cDjj7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > libs suck it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Liberals will complain about anything just to
> > > complain and prevent any kind of economic
> > benefit.
> > > Fucking nigs sold nigs. Deal with it and move
> > on.
> > > Don't you libs still have to protest the name
> > > redskins?
> >
> > That was in Africa ass, not here in America.
> Show
> > me one black slave owner.
>
> How do you know a lib is a dumb fuck?
>
> They try to communicate.

Says the poster who does not know that "a lib" is singular but "they" is plural. A penny for your thoughts would be price-gouging.

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: Derp derp ()
Date: April 07, 2014 09:07PM

just sayin Wrote:
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> libs suck it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > cDjj7 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > libs suck it Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Liberals will complain about anything just
> to
> > > > complain and prevent any kind of economic
> > > benefit.
> > > > Fucking nigs sold nigs. Deal with it and
> move
> > > on.
> > > > Don't you libs still have to protest the
> name
> > > > redskins?
> > >
> > > That was in Africa ass, not here in America.
> > Show
> > > me one black slave owner.
> >
> > How do you know a lib is a dumb fuck?
> >
> > They try to communicate.
>
> Says the poster who does not know that "a lib" is
> singular but "they" is plural. A penny for your
> thoughts would be price-gouging.

Funny, you corrected the grammar but didn't disagree with the sentiment. Just sayin'

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Re: Va. ballpark proposal stirs slave-trade memories
Posted by: The south ()
Date: April 09, 2014 02:57PM

Welcome to Virginia

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