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Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Why? Wanna Stalk Me
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Date: January 17, 2009 10:44PM
My buddy recently applied at Arlington country police department and was denied. He was a military police officer in the Marine Corps. He was told that he needs at least 60 semester credits and that he can not substitute military training for school. So let me get this straight, some kid can go to NOVA and get his AA degree and become a cop but they wont allow a military cop that has 4 years of actual training in......???
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Obvious
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Date: January 18, 2009 12:53AM
Degree is required - if you don't like it, apply to an agency that doesn't require an advanced education.
FYI - I've never heard of Arlington Country.. although, there is an Arlington County.
FYI - I've never heard of Arlington Country.. although, there is an Arlington County.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Bob
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Date: January 18, 2009 06:06AM
It could have changed in the last 15 or so years, but I had a friend who joined the capitol police after returning from Desert Storm. He was a ranger, and I don't believe he had ANY college credits.
After a while he applied for and became a park police officer. He loved the Park Police, he was stationed at Glen Echo and patrolled the Clara Barton PKWY and got to do some stuff downtown a couple times a month. Plus he could volunteer to direct traffic at Wolftrap Farm Park and then watch the performance for free.
After a while he applied for and became a park police officer. He loved the Park Police, he was stationed at Glen Echo and patrolled the Clara Barton PKWY and got to do some stuff downtown a couple times a month. Plus he could volunteer to direct traffic at Wolftrap Farm Park and then watch the performance for free.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
tubby
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Date: January 18, 2009 11:26AM
Arlington County does not want some boneheaded former Marine slapping the residents around....especially those of the upscale North Arlington.
That stuff about learning valuable skills in the military is mostly bullshit. They're trying to enlist cannon fodder, so they'll tell them anything to get them to sign up.
I have a friend whose son operated a crane in the Army for 8 years, and when he got out nobody and I mean NOBODY would let the kid within 1000 feet of their civilian crane. And this was before big downturn in construction.
They didn't want "army-style" operators...he could just cost them too much money when he fucked up.
Like Bob said, this gyrene should apply to federal police agencies...they have to hire them.
That stuff about learning valuable skills in the military is mostly bullshit. They're trying to enlist cannon fodder, so they'll tell them anything to get them to sign up.
I have a friend whose son operated a crane in the Army for 8 years, and when he got out nobody and I mean NOBODY would let the kid within 1000 feet of their civilian crane. And this was before big downturn in construction.
They didn't want "army-style" operators...he could just cost them too much money when he fucked up.
Like Bob said, this gyrene should apply to federal police agencies...they have to hire them.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
opinion
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Date: January 18, 2009 12:47PM
He can apply to the multiple Sheriff, and university departments in the area.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Why? Wanna Stalk Me
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Date: January 18, 2009 02:15PM
tubby Wrote:
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> Arlington County does not want some boneheaded
> former Marine slapping the residents
> around....especially those of the upscale North
> Arlington.
>
> That stuff about learning valuable skills in the
> military is mostly bullshit.
Oh right but the community college degree will teach you to be such an upstanding citizen right???
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> Arlington County does not want some boneheaded
> former Marine slapping the residents
> around....especially those of the upscale North
> Arlington.
>
> That stuff about learning valuable skills in the
> military is mostly bullshit.
Oh right but the community college degree will teach you to be such an upstanding citizen right???
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
BillyBob
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Date: January 18, 2009 02:34PM
I heard that the Arlington Country Police have a more lax dental standards than the Arlington County Police....
Arlington County Police probably have plenty of applicants that meet and exceed their minimum standards. I'm willing to bet that they get plenty of former MP's who also have bachelor's degrees, or even more education. I would recommend that this person find a university police/security department where he meets the minimum standards, and that waives or discounts tuition for employees. Once he gets the education under his belt, he can shop around for another place to work.
Arlington County Police probably have plenty of applicants that meet and exceed their minimum standards. I'm willing to bet that they get plenty of former MP's who also have bachelor's degrees, or even more education. I would recommend that this person find a university police/security department where he meets the minimum standards, and that waives or discounts tuition for employees. Once he gets the education under his belt, he can shop around for another place to work.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
tubby
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Date: January 18, 2009 03:04PM
Why? Wanna Stalk Me Wrote:
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> Oh right but the community college degree will
> teach you to be such an upstanding citizen
> right???
Well, the community college won't brainwash them with the "I am Superman" shit that the Corps does.
Plus, with Henderson Hall located in the County, I'm sure the Arlington Police is well acquainted with just how immature most those guys are.
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> Oh right but the community college degree will
> teach you to be such an upstanding citizen
> right???
Well, the community college won't brainwash them with the "I am Superman" shit that the Corps does.
Plus, with Henderson Hall located in the County, I'm sure the Arlington Police is well acquainted with just how immature most those guys are.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Hippocrates
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Date: January 18, 2009 03:12PM
BillyBob Wrote:
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> I heard that the Arlington Country Police have a
> more lax dental standards than the Arlington
> County Police....
>
> Arlington County Police probably have plenty of
> applicants that meet and exceed their minimum
> standards. I'm willing to bet that they get
> plenty of former MP's who also have bachelor's
> degrees, or even more education. I would
> recommend that this person find a university
> police/security department where he meets the
> minimum standards, and that waives or discounts
> tuition for employees. Once he gets the education
> under his belt, he can shop around for another
> place to work.
That sounds like an appropriate plan of action. ACPD blows billy goats, btw.
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> I heard that the Arlington Country Police have a
> more lax dental standards than the Arlington
> County Police....
>
> Arlington County Police probably have plenty of
> applicants that meet and exceed their minimum
> standards. I'm willing to bet that they get
> plenty of former MP's who also have bachelor's
> degrees, or even more education. I would
> recommend that this person find a university
> police/security department where he meets the
> minimum standards, and that waives or discounts
> tuition for employees. Once he gets the education
> under his belt, he can shop around for another
> place to work.
That sounds like an appropriate plan of action. ACPD blows billy goats, btw.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Radiophile
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Date: January 18, 2009 04:59PM
Why? Wanna Stalk Me Wrote:
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> tubby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Arlington County does not want some boneheaded
> > former Marine slapping the residents
> > around....especially those of the upscale North
> > Arlington.
> >
> > That stuff about learning valuable skills in
> the
> > military is mostly bullshit.
>
>
> Oh right but the community college degree will
> teach you to be such an upstanding citizen
> right???
I could make the argument that the military is racist since they go around killing foreigners. Stop talking in generalities.
Stop deifying the military. They have their good and the have their bad apples (according to our own current Commander in Chief).
If the Arlington County PD wanted your friend, they would have found a way to get him. But they said they did not want him, and, according to you, did not really offer any alternatives. Sounds like your friend is the one with the issues, not the PD.
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> tubby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Arlington County does not want some boneheaded
> > former Marine slapping the residents
> > around....especially those of the upscale North
> > Arlington.
> >
> > That stuff about learning valuable skills in
> the
> > military is mostly bullshit.
>
>
> Oh right but the community college degree will
> teach you to be such an upstanding citizen
> right???
I could make the argument that the military is racist since they go around killing foreigners. Stop talking in generalities.
Stop deifying the military. They have their good and the have their bad apples (according to our own current Commander in Chief).
If the Arlington County PD wanted your friend, they would have found a way to get him. But they said they did not want him, and, according to you, did not really offer any alternatives. Sounds like your friend is the one with the issues, not the PD.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Libertarian1
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Date: January 18, 2009 07:01PM
Guarding ordinance and being a campus cop require completely different skill sets. If only colleges thought more about that when making staffing decisions.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
PoPo
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Date: January 18, 2009 07:41PM
There is a hiring freeze in Arlington right now. They won't hire anyone.
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Bob
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Date: January 18, 2009 10:35PM
Libertarian1 Wrote:
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> Guarding ordinance and being a campus cop require
> completely different skill sets. If only colleges
> thought more about that when making staffing
> decisions.
Actually, other than in combat zones, MPs generally do just about everything a regular "street cop" does, he just has the added difficulty of sometimes having to be a cop to someone who outranks him.
Imagine being a young Private on your first assignment at Fort Myer, and you pull over the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff for DUI? Or you bust a bunch of kids for vandalism, and one of them turns out to be the daughter of the base commander or something?
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> Guarding ordinance and being a campus cop require
> completely different skill sets. If only colleges
> thought more about that when making staffing
> decisions.
Actually, other than in combat zones, MPs generally do just about everything a regular "street cop" does, he just has the added difficulty of sometimes having to be a cop to someone who outranks him.
Imagine being a young Private on your first assignment at Fort Myer, and you pull over the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff for DUI? Or you bust a bunch of kids for vandalism, and one of them turns out to be the daughter of the base commander or something?
Re: Hiring Standards for ACPD
Posted by:
Blueyedcrackerdevil
()
Date: January 19, 2009 05:58PM
PoPo Wrote:
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> There is a hiring freeze in Arlington right now.
> They won't hire anyone.
Yup, this is true,
Fairfax county is only taking lateral transfers
Prince William?
Loudon I think only laterals
Tell him to try Metro Transit- a really long academy but he will have a accreditation in three areas, Maryland,DC and Virginia. Their academy is like 9 months, do another 1 1/2 half and then apply for a lateral transfer to any agency in the Metro area.
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> There is a hiring freeze in Arlington right now.
> They won't hire anyone.
Yup, this is true,
Fairfax county is only taking lateral transfers
Prince William?
Loudon I think only laterals
Tell him to try Metro Transit- a really long academy but he will have a accreditation in three areas, Maryland,DC and Virginia. Their academy is like 9 months, do another 1 1/2 half and then apply for a lateral transfer to any agency in the Metro area.