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Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
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Fairfax County Democrats
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Date: January 18, 2013 10:36AM
You're invited to join us for this free and open event next Tuesday. Here are the details:
The Springfield District Democratic Committee and the National Affairs Committee present
Stop Gun Violence: A Discussion on the Overhaul of the Federal and Virginia Gun Laws
Tuesday, January 22, 2013
7:00 PM - 7:45 PM
FCDC General Meeting to follow
West Springfield High School Cafeteria
6100 Rolling Rd, Springfield, VA 22152
Program Panelists:
Colin Goddard, Virginia Tech Survivor, The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
Joshua Horwitz, Executive Director, Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
Martina Leinz, Virginia State President, Million Mom March
LuAnn McNabb, President, The Angel Fund
Omar Samaha, Gun Violence Prevention Activist
Refreshments will be provided by the Fairfax County Young Democrats
Panelists' Biographies:
Colin Goddard is the Assistant Director of Victims and Youth Advocacy and Federal Legislation for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He survived being shot four times during the worst school shooting in American history * the Virginia Tech massacre of April 16, 2007. That chilling experience prompted Goddard to become an advocate for sensible gun laws at the nation’s most prominent gun violence prevention advocacy group in June 2010. Colin graduated Virginia Tech in 2008 with a B.A. in International Studies and a minor in French in 2008.
Joshua Horwitz is Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence who has spent nearly two decades working on gun violence prevention issues. Josh developed the long-term strategy to close illegal firearms markets as a way to focus the gun control movement on the huge gaps in our nation's gun laws that easily allow criminals to obtain firearms. He has managed dozens of issue campaigns at the state and federal level-including, in 2005, the successful campaign to defend the power of the citizens of the District of Columbia to establish gun laws without the interference of Congress. He also represents victims and municipalities in their suits against the gun industry.
Martina Leinz has advocated for responsible gun laws since high school when one of her classmates opened fire at Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego, killing two and injuring nine, including eight children. In 2000, she participated in the first Million Mom March in Washington. She has been an active member of the organization ever since and has served as the Virginia State President for the past six years. In 2007, she received the Martin Luther King Jr. Award for Community Service for her gun violence prevention efforts by Johns Hopkins University.
LuAnn McNabb is the President of the Board of Directors of The Angel Fund which is an organization that seeks to educate, advocate and implement practical solutions to the issues that caused the tragedy at Virginia Tech on April 16, 2007. Founded by Reema Samaha's parents, Joe and Mona Samaha, the Angel Fund educates through its website, panel discussions and the media, advocates by meeting with elected officials and testifying at hearings and is seeking practical solutions to issues that contributed to the tragedy: privacy and information sharing, campus safety and security, and mental health. The Angel Fund is seeking change in laws and policies in order to prevent another tragedy.
Ms. McNabb was also the Director, Programs and Legislation and Executive Director for the VTV Family Outreach Organization.
Omar Samaha graduated in 2006 from Virginia Tech, where his sister Reema was killed during the mass shooting on April 16, 2007. Since then, Omar has been an advocate for stronger gun laws, from participating in an undercover investigation for ABC’s 20/20, to leading the nationwide Fix Gun Checks campaign. He now works full time on gun violence prevention in Washington D.C. In 2010 Omar advocated closing the gun show loophole in campaign ads for Congressman Gerry Connolly.
The Springfield District Democratic Committee and the National Affairs Committee present
Stop Gun Violence: A Discussion on the Overhaul of the Federal and Virginia Gun Laws
Tuesday, January 22, 2013
7:00 PM - 7:45 PM
FCDC General Meeting to follow
West Springfield High School Cafeteria
6100 Rolling Rd, Springfield, VA 22152
Program Panelists:
Colin Goddard, Virginia Tech Survivor, The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
Joshua Horwitz, Executive Director, Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
Martina Leinz, Virginia State President, Million Mom March
LuAnn McNabb, President, The Angel Fund
Omar Samaha, Gun Violence Prevention Activist
Refreshments will be provided by the Fairfax County Young Democrats
Panelists' Biographies:
Colin Goddard is the Assistant Director of Victims and Youth Advocacy and Federal Legislation for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. He survived being shot four times during the worst school shooting in American history * the Virginia Tech massacre of April 16, 2007. That chilling experience prompted Goddard to become an advocate for sensible gun laws at the nation’s most prominent gun violence prevention advocacy group in June 2010. Colin graduated Virginia Tech in 2008 with a B.A. in International Studies and a minor in French in 2008.
Joshua Horwitz is Executive Director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence who has spent nearly two decades working on gun violence prevention issues. Josh developed the long-term strategy to close illegal firearms markets as a way to focus the gun control movement on the huge gaps in our nation's gun laws that easily allow criminals to obtain firearms. He has managed dozens of issue campaigns at the state and federal level-including, in 2005, the successful campaign to defend the power of the citizens of the District of Columbia to establish gun laws without the interference of Congress. He also represents victims and municipalities in their suits against the gun industry.
Martina Leinz has advocated for responsible gun laws since high school when one of her classmates opened fire at Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego, killing two and injuring nine, including eight children. In 2000, she participated in the first Million Mom March in Washington. She has been an active member of the organization ever since and has served as the Virginia State President for the past six years. In 2007, she received the Martin Luther King Jr. Award for Community Service for her gun violence prevention efforts by Johns Hopkins University.
LuAnn McNabb is the President of the Board of Directors of The Angel Fund which is an organization that seeks to educate, advocate and implement practical solutions to the issues that caused the tragedy at Virginia Tech on April 16, 2007. Founded by Reema Samaha's parents, Joe and Mona Samaha, the Angel Fund educates through its website, panel discussions and the media, advocates by meeting with elected officials and testifying at hearings and is seeking practical solutions to issues that contributed to the tragedy: privacy and information sharing, campus safety and security, and mental health. The Angel Fund is seeking change in laws and policies in order to prevent another tragedy.
Ms. McNabb was also the Director, Programs and Legislation and Executive Director for the VTV Family Outreach Organization.
Omar Samaha graduated in 2006 from Virginia Tech, where his sister Reema was killed during the mass shooting on April 16, 2007. Since then, Omar has been an advocate for stronger gun laws, from participating in an undercover investigation for ABC’s 20/20, to leading the nationwide Fix Gun Checks campaign. He now works full time on gun violence prevention in Washington D.C. In 2010 Omar advocated closing the gun show loophole in campaign ads for Congressman Gerry Connolly.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
ResourceOfficer
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Date: January 18, 2013 10:52AM
Armed security will be provided by the FCPD.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Whine fest
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Date: January 18, 2013 11:00AM
Can't have a Democratic meeting without victims. Doesn't sound like anyone will have any real solutions except to stop bad looking guns. It is only 45 minutes, probably 30 minutes too long.
Are the refreshments vegan?
Are the refreshments vegan?
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Tough One
()
Date: January 18, 2013 11:01AM
Is Gerry Connolly going to be providing refreshments to the "whine and cheese" party?
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Jess1
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Date: January 18, 2013 12:08PM
"Colin graduated Virginia Tech in 2008 with a B.A. in International Studies and a minor in French"
and works for a "non profit".
'nuff said.
and works for a "non profit".
'nuff said.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
no bank survellience camera
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Date: January 18, 2013 12:18PM
Just don't park anywhere near Gerry and you shouldn't get backed over.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
blah blah
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Date: January 18, 2013 12:31PM
Waste of time here, guys bio says "VT survivor" ? what kina of bio is that??? Morons that just want to infringe on your rights
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
ROCKO MEATS
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Date: January 18, 2013 01:01PM
I'll be attending with my brothers Smith and Wesson
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Enough said
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Date: January 18, 2013 01:08PM
I'm having a meeting to protest forks, you see, Forks are really bad, they need to be controlled. Because of forks that I use to eat, I have gained a massive amount of weight and now have diabetes and high blood pressure.
Something needs be be done about forks.
Something needs be be done about forks.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BrandonG.M.U.
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Date: January 18, 2013 01:47PM
Fun drinking game: bring a bottle of booze and take a shot each time the word clip is used instead of magazine! If you're a serious drinker, also take a shot each time the term "assault rifle" is misused.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
dieing breed
()
Date: January 20, 2013 01:27PM
And you promise that falls church democrat "Gardner the pedefile" won't be there out on some sort of special furlough.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
g.g allin
()
Date: January 20, 2013 01:58PM
Sounds like fun party. all missionary position only fuck knuckles. Get a life.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Dane Bramage
()
Date: January 20, 2013 03:38PM
It's a shame someone in Norris Hall didn't have gun, other than Cho.
Frankly speaking, getting rid of all guns in the US is on par with shipping back all the illegal immigrants. Not possible.
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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
Frankly speaking, getting rid of all guns in the US is on par with shipping back all the illegal immigrants. Not possible.
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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
fair trade
()
Date: January 20, 2013 03:55PM
Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> It's a shame someone in Norris Hall didn't have
> gun, other than Cho.
>
> Frankly speaking, getting rid of all guns in the
> US is on par with shipping back all the illegal
> immigrants. Not possible.
I will turn in my guns if all of the illegal spic and niggs are shipped out.
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> It's a shame someone in Norris Hall didn't have
> gun, other than Cho.
>
> Frankly speaking, getting rid of all guns in the
> US is on par with shipping back all the illegal
> immigrants. Not possible.
I will turn in my guns if all of the illegal spic and niggs are shipped out.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
old lady next door.
()
Date: January 20, 2013 04:02PM
This is great and exciting news. I will be there rain or snow with my check book in hand. It's great to see the youth providing refreshments :)
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Ralph Pootawn
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Date: January 20, 2013 04:02PM
That meeting room with be filled with so much ignorance.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
FederalistPapers
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Date: January 20, 2013 04:06PM
I wonder how many times they'll use the word "hunting" and not have a clue as to what the 2nd Amendment is all about.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Colt 45
()
Date: January 20, 2013 04:08PM
Stop gun violence? Try stopping diarrhea.
Ever heard of the 2nd amendment you liberal douchebag? Go after the drug companies that make the shit these crazy assholes take to medicate themselves into gunning down innocent people.
Why don't you have a free and open Democratic event to create some jobs? Oh, that's right, y'all don't fucking know how.
If Reema had a gun on her when Cho showed up, she'd still be alive.
Ever heard of the 2nd amendment you liberal douchebag? Go after the drug companies that make the shit these crazy assholes take to medicate themselves into gunning down innocent people.
Why don't you have a free and open Democratic event to create some jobs? Oh, that's right, y'all don't fucking know how.
If Reema had a gun on her when Cho showed up, she'd still be alive.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
old lady next door.
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Date: January 20, 2013 04:22PM
From your insane post I would imagine a high dosage of Valium would do you well.
Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like the ones they had when the constitution was written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never included the second amendment if they would have seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle is capable of.
Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like the ones they had when the constitution was written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never included the second amendment if they would have seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle is capable of.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
rodney
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Date: January 20, 2013 04:24PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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> From your insane post I would imagine a high
> dosage of Valium would do you well.
>
> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
You must have been kinda hot before electricity was invented.
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> From your insane post I would imagine a high
> dosage of Valium would do you well.
>
> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
You must have been kinda hot before electricity was invented.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
E gads
()
Date: January 20, 2013 04:55PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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> From your insane post I would imagine a high
> dosage of Valium would do you well.
>
> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
You might be right if you are that old.
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> From your insane post I would imagine a high
> dosage of Valium would do you well.
>
> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
You might be right if you are that old.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 101
()
Date: January 20, 2013 05:48PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
As usual you couldnt be more wrong. Maybe this is why the founding fathers didnt want women to vote, after all if your distorted view of their wishes is good enough to take away guns its certainly good enough to take away your right to vote
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> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
As usual you couldnt be more wrong. Maybe this is why the founding fathers didnt want women to vote, after all if your distorted view of their wishes is good enough to take away guns its certainly good enough to take away your right to vote
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
The Old Ways Are Best
()
Date: January 20, 2013 05:58PM
Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
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> old lady next door. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just
> like
> > the ones they had when the constitution was
> > written. I'm sure our for fathers would have
> never
> > included the second amendment if they would
> have
> > seem the destruction a modern assault style
> rifle
> > is capable of.
>
>
> As usual you couldnt be more wrong. Maybe this is
> why the founding fathers didnt want women to vote,
> after all if your distorted view of their wishes
> is good enough to take away guns its certainly
> good enough to take away your right to vote
And while we're at it, lets get the darkies back to work in the fields, starting with the pretender in the White House and his mammy Michelle! They're just getting too uppity!
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> old lady next door. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just
> like
> > the ones they had when the constitution was
> > written. I'm sure our for fathers would have
> never
> > included the second amendment if they would
> have
> > seem the destruction a modern assault style
> rifle
> > is capable of.
>
>
> As usual you couldnt be more wrong. Maybe this is
> why the founding fathers didnt want women to vote,
> after all if your distorted view of their wishes
> is good enough to take away guns its certainly
> good enough to take away your right to vote
And while we're at it, lets get the darkies back to work in the fields, starting with the pretender in the White House and his mammy Michelle! They're just getting too uppity!
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
old lady next door.
()
Date: January 20, 2013 05:59PM
Another example you just proved to all of us why the constitution is nothing but a outdated piece of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you for the input young man.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Typical Liberal Dbag
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:05PM
Good now we can have the police arrest you without cause, search your home without a warrant, torture a confession out of you, and just plant evidence. We can follow that up with an execution without a trial.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
big dummy
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:18PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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> Another example you just proved to all of us why
> the constitution is nothing but a outdated piece
> of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you for
> the input young man.
bla bla bla bla.
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> Another example you just proved to all of us why
> the constitution is nothing but a outdated piece
> of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you for
> the input young man.
bla bla bla bla.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 101
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:18PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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> Another example you just proved to all of us why
> the constitution is nothing but a outdated piece
> of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you for
> the input young man.
Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter than we thought and didnt want people like you voting that just pick and choose what they deem to be important.
Youre welcome to just leave the country if you think the constitution is hindering your life so much. But youre nothing more than a troll. You claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich, if thats the case you never actually worked and just married into money
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> Another example you just proved to all of us why
> the constitution is nothing but a outdated piece
> of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you for
> the input young man.
Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter than we thought and didnt want people like you voting that just pick and choose what they deem to be important.
Youre welcome to just leave the country if you think the constitution is hindering your life so much. But youre nothing more than a troll. You claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich, if thats the case you never actually worked and just married into money
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
VT Against Guns
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:19PM
Enough said Wrote:
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> I'm having a meeting to protest forks, you see,
> Forks are really bad, they need to be controlled.
> Because of forks that I use to eat, I have gained
> a massive amount of weight and now have diabetes
> and high blood pressure.
> Something needs be be done about forks.
You're an idiot.
When was the last time you saw 20-30 people killed in 5 minutes by forked
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'm having a meeting to protest forks, you see,
> Forks are really bad, they need to be controlled.
> Because of forks that I use to eat, I have gained
> a massive amount of weight and now have diabetes
> and high blood pressure.
> Something needs be be done about forks.
You're an idiot.
When was the last time you saw 20-30 people killed in 5 minutes by forked
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Everything Kills
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:23PM
More people die each day due to a life of poor diet choices than all the mass shootings.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
old lady next door.
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:25PM
Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> old lady next door. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another example you just proved to all of us
> why
> > the constitution is nothing but a outdated
> piece
> > of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you
> for
> > the input young man.
>
>
> Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter
> than we thought and didnt want people like you
> voting that just pick and choose what they deem to
> be important.
>
> Youre welcome to just leave the country if you
> think the constitution is hindering your life so
> much. But youre nothing more than a troll. You
> claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich, if
> thats the case you never actually worked and just
> married into money
One ting that serves me better than you is my memory. I never claimed to be 50. I said I have over 50 years of experience dealing with these matters. Stick a fork in it.
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> old lady next door. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another example you just proved to all of us
> why
> > the constitution is nothing but a outdated
> piece
> > of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you
> for
> > the input young man.
>
>
> Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter
> than we thought and didnt want people like you
> voting that just pick and choose what they deem to
> be important.
>
> Youre welcome to just leave the country if you
> think the constitution is hindering your life so
> much. But youre nothing more than a troll. You
> claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich, if
> thats the case you never actually worked and just
> married into money
One ting that serves me better than you is my memory. I never claimed to be 50. I said I have over 50 years of experience dealing with these matters. Stick a fork in it.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
JustanFYI
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:29PM
VT Against Guns Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Enough said Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm having a meeting to protest forks, you see,
> > Forks are really bad, they need to be
> controlled.
> > Because of forks that I use to eat, I have
> gained
> > a massive amount of weight and now have
> diabetes
> > and high blood pressure.
> > Something needs be be done about forks.
>
> You're an idiot.
>
>
> When was the last time you saw 20-30 people killed
> in 5 minutes by forked
There are 40,000 people killed per year in car accidents and it's the leading cause of death for ages 1-30. Source: http://www.lawcore.com/car-accident/statistics.html
Maybe we should be more concerned with making cars illegal since it's statistically the BIGGEST killer in the US.
That reminds me, guns are banned in Chicago. How is it possible that they are the leading Homicide capital in the US and someone is shot and killed almost daily? Have you not noticed that ALL of these incidents (school shootings, mall shootings, etc) are ALWAYS "gun free zones"?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Enough said Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm having a meeting to protest forks, you see,
> > Forks are really bad, they need to be
> controlled.
> > Because of forks that I use to eat, I have
> gained
> > a massive amount of weight and now have
> diabetes
> > and high blood pressure.
> > Something needs be be done about forks.
>
> You're an idiot.
>
>
> When was the last time you saw 20-30 people killed
> in 5 minutes by forked
There are 40,000 people killed per year in car accidents and it's the leading cause of death for ages 1-30. Source: http://www.lawcore.com/car-accident/statistics.html
Maybe we should be more concerned with making cars illegal since it's statistically the BIGGEST killer in the US.
That reminds me, guns are banned in Chicago. How is it possible that they are the leading Homicide capital in the US and someone is shot and killed almost daily? Have you not noticed that ALL of these incidents (school shootings, mall shootings, etc) are ALWAYS "gun free zones"?
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
JustanFYI
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:32PM
Everything Kills Wrote:
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> More people die each day due to a life of poor
> diet choices than all the mass shootings.
Correct. In the United States roughly 39.8 million, or 1 in 6, die from health risks related to being overweight every year.
Incidents of mass murder in the U.S. declined from 42 in the 1990s to 26 in the first decade of this century. The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning.
Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335739/facts-about-mass-shootings-john-fund#
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> More people die each day due to a life of poor
> diet choices than all the mass shootings.
Correct. In the United States roughly 39.8 million, or 1 in 6, die from health risks related to being overweight every year.
Incidents of mass murder in the U.S. declined from 42 in the 1990s to 26 in the first decade of this century. The chances of being killed in a mass shooting are about what they are for being struck by lightning.
Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/335739/facts-about-mass-shootings-john-fund#
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
MoreInfo
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:32PM
Right after the meeting, everyone can meet up at Glory Days in Burke.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
the confessor
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:38PM
VT Against Guns Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Enough said Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm having a meeting to protest forks, you see,
> > Forks are really bad, they need to be
> controlled.
> > Because of forks that I use to eat, I have
> gained
> > a massive amount of weight and now have
> diabetes
> > and high blood pressure.
> > Something needs be be done about forks.
>
> You're an idiot.
>
>
> When was the last time you saw 20-30 people killed
> in 5 minutes by forked
How many people are Morbidly Obese in this country? millions!! Forks are the work of the devil!!! Ban forks now!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Enough said Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm having a meeting to protest forks, you see,
> > Forks are really bad, they need to be
> controlled.
> > Because of forks that I use to eat, I have
> gained
> > a massive amount of weight and now have
> diabetes
> > and high blood pressure.
> > Something needs be be done about forks.
>
> You're an idiot.
>
>
> When was the last time you saw 20-30 people killed
> in 5 minutes by forked
How many people are Morbidly Obese in this country? millions!! Forks are the work of the devil!!! Ban forks now!!!!
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
lou cypher
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:40PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > old lady next door. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Another example you just proved to all of us
> > why
> > > the constitution is nothing but a outdated
> > piece
> > > of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you
> > for
> > > the input young man.
> >
> >
> > Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter
> > than we thought and didnt want people like you
> > voting that just pick and choose what they deem
> to
> > be important.
> >
> > Youre welcome to just leave the country if you
> > think the constitution is hindering your life
> so
> > much. But youre nothing more than a troll.
> You
> > claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich,
> if
> > thats the case you never actually worked and
> just
> > married into money
>
>
> One ting that serves me better than you is my
> memory. I never claimed to be 50. I said I have
> over 50 years of experience dealing with these
> matters. Stick a fork in it.
Forks need to be banned!!!! They made me fat!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > old lady next door. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Another example you just proved to all of us
> > why
> > > the constitution is nothing but a outdated
> > piece
> > > of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you
> > for
> > > the input young man.
> >
> >
> > Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter
> > than we thought and didnt want people like you
> > voting that just pick and choose what they deem
> to
> > be important.
> >
> > Youre welcome to just leave the country if you
> > think the constitution is hindering your life
> so
> > much. But youre nothing more than a troll.
> You
> > claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich,
> if
> > thats the case you never actually worked and
> just
> > married into money
>
>
> One ting that serves me better than you is my
> memory. I never claimed to be 50. I said I have
> over 50 years of experience dealing with these
> matters. Stick a fork in it.
Forks need to be banned!!!! They made me fat!!
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 101
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:41PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > old lady next door. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Another example you just proved to all of us
> > why
> > > the constitution is nothing but a outdated
> > piece
> > > of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you
> > for
> > > the input young man.
> >
> >
> > Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter
> > than we thought and didnt want people like you
> > voting that just pick and choose what they deem
> to
> > be important.
> >
> > Youre welcome to just leave the country if you
> > think the constitution is hindering your life
> so
> > much. But youre nothing more than a troll.
> You
> > claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich,
> if
> > thats the case you never actually worked and
> just
> > married into money
>
>
> One ting that serves me better than you is my
> memory. I never claimed to be 50. I said I have
> over 50 years of experience dealing with these
> matters. Stick a fork in it.
No you said you have 50 years of experience thats means youre 50 or cant do math, which is it?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > old lady next door. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Another example you just proved to all of us
> > why
> > > the constitution is nothing but a outdated
> > piece
> > > of paper behind 4 inches of glass. Thank you
> > for
> > > the input young man.
> >
> >
> > Or that the Founding Fathers were a lot smarter
> > than we thought and didnt want people like you
> > voting that just pick and choose what they deem
> to
> > be important.
> >
> > Youre welcome to just leave the country if you
> > think the constitution is hindering your life
> so
> > much. But youre nothing more than a troll.
> You
> > claim to be retired at the age of 50 and rich,
> if
> > thats the case you never actually worked and
> just
> > married into money
>
>
> One ting that serves me better than you is my
> memory. I never claimed to be 50. I said I have
> over 50 years of experience dealing with these
> matters. Stick a fork in it.
No you said you have 50 years of experience thats means youre 50 or cant do math, which is it?
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
old lady next door.
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:42PM
Justinfyi has such a narrow min he cannot see the larger picture of gun violence in this country and compares everything to a mass shooting. He needs to watch piers morgan for a better understanding.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
valdeez
()
Date: January 20, 2013 06:52PM
When you have a gun you don't have to worry about gun violence, because you will fuck up any hard nigger that try's to steel your paper or fucks with you. Good luck being a victim, wish you the best.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Dane Bramage
()
Date: January 20, 2013 09:50PM
old lady next door. Wrote:
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>
> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
Shut down your computer. You should be limited to quill and parchment. I'm sure our forefathers would have never included the first amendment if they would have seem the idiocy spewed forth via the interwebz.
-------------------------------------------------
“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
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>
> Gun owners should be limited to muskets, just like
> the ones they had when the constitution was
> written. I'm sure our for fathers would have never
> included the second amendment if they would have
> seem the destruction a modern assault style rifle
> is capable of.
Shut down your computer. You should be limited to quill and parchment. I'm sure our forefathers would have never included the first amendment if they would have seem the idiocy spewed forth via the interwebz.
-------------------------------------------------
“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Reality Check 4 All
()
Date: January 22, 2013 11:06AM
An important start to keeping our kids safe!
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BoBoBo
()
Date: January 22, 2013 11:34AM
Ask Omar Samaha what his views are on belt bombs. I understand his opposition to guns. I won't be able to attend the meeting. I just want to hear that he also wants to do away with his people's preferred method of violence.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Anything for the kids
()
Date: January 22, 2013 12:11PM
Reality Check 4 All Wrote:
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> An important start to keeping our kids safe!
Really? What will this accomplish?
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> An important start to keeping our kids safe!
Really? What will this accomplish?
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Reality Check 4 All
()
Date: January 22, 2013 12:23PM
Anything for the kids Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Reality Check 4 All Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > An important start to keeping our kids safe!
>
>
> Really? What will this accomplish?
It will accomplish an open discussion about how to prevent some mentally ill person from shooting up Fairfax county schools or local shopping malls.
We can't just sit back and wait until some gun nut kills 30-40 students at the local school.
We need to take preventive action now.
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> Reality Check 4 All Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > An important start to keeping our kids safe!
>
>
> Really? What will this accomplish?
It will accomplish an open discussion about how to prevent some mentally ill person from shooting up Fairfax county schools or local shopping malls.
We can't just sit back and wait until some gun nut kills 30-40 students at the local school.
We need to take preventive action now.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Anything for the kids
()
Date: January 22, 2013 12:35PM
Actually you have a more open door discussion here. Only Democrats will be at that feel good meeting. You get to hear both sides here on FFXU, but I know the Dems only want to hear what is on their agenda.
"We can't just sit back and wait until some gun nut kills 30-40 students at the local school.
We need to take preventive action now."
You sound like this is emenient that it will happen here, it isn't. School is much safer than many other activities children are involved in. But you are really not interested in the children, it is the guns that bother you. While you "take preventive action now" against "some gun nut" by limiting what he or she can buy, he or she will just change their choice of weapons, maybe go to explosives and inflict more deaths. But it is okay with you libs because guns are bad and people are never to blame for their actions.
"We can't just sit back and wait until some gun nut kills 30-40 students at the local school.
We need to take preventive action now."
You sound like this is emenient that it will happen here, it isn't. School is much safer than many other activities children are involved in. But you are really not interested in the children, it is the guns that bother you. While you "take preventive action now" against "some gun nut" by limiting what he or she can buy, he or she will just change their choice of weapons, maybe go to explosives and inflict more deaths. But it is okay with you libs because guns are bad and people are never to blame for their actions.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Get Your Head out of Your.....
()
Date: January 22, 2013 12:39PM
Reality Check,
If you really want to "take preventative action now", lock up the criminally insane, post a cop or 'school resource officer', and teach your kids that evil exists in the world and how they should react if the Devil comes calling.
Life isn't safe. Get over it.
The operative word in your statement "We can't just sit back and wait until some gun nut kills 30-40 students at the local school." is NUT. As in not balanced and shouldn't be walking the streets.
But banning objects is about the dumbest thing we can possibly do to "keep our kids safe". We haven't banned bathtubs, swimming pools, or cars, and yet they are involved in the deaths of more kids than firearms are in this country. So stop blaming the object. Blame the person, not the tool.
Is it really that hard to figure out? Objects aren't evil. PEOPLE are evil. Switchblade knives aren't evil, but yet they are difficult to own in VA. So, a steak knife is just as effective if I want to hurt someone. Big SUVs kill people in the wrong hands, but they also take kids to soccer practice.
THE OBJECT ISN'T THE PROBLEM YOU IDIOTS! Is that REALLY so hard to understand???
If you really want to "take preventative action now", lock up the criminally insane, post a cop or 'school resource officer', and teach your kids that evil exists in the world and how they should react if the Devil comes calling.
Life isn't safe. Get over it.
The operative word in your statement "We can't just sit back and wait until some gun nut kills 30-40 students at the local school." is NUT. As in not balanced and shouldn't be walking the streets.
But banning objects is about the dumbest thing we can possibly do to "keep our kids safe". We haven't banned bathtubs, swimming pools, or cars, and yet they are involved in the deaths of more kids than firearms are in this country. So stop blaming the object. Blame the person, not the tool.
Is it really that hard to figure out? Objects aren't evil. PEOPLE are evil. Switchblade knives aren't evil, but yet they are difficult to own in VA. So, a steak knife is just as effective if I want to hurt someone. Big SUVs kill people in the wrong hands, but they also take kids to soccer practice.
THE OBJECT ISN'T THE PROBLEM YOU IDIOTS! Is that REALLY so hard to understand???
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
gungrabber101
()
Date: January 22, 2013 03:54PM
All they are going to do is damn the only straw man that they have the mental capacity to conceptualize-the legal gun owner.
I guarantee you they won't say a word about the link between these mass shootings and antidepressants. That is too messy for dumbfuck liberals.
I guarantee you they won't say a word about the link between these mass shootings and antidepressants. That is too messy for dumbfuck liberals.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Reality Check 4 All
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:06PM
Get Your Head out of Your..... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Reality Check,
> If you really want to "take preventative action
> now", lock up the criminally insane, post a cop or
> 'school resource officer', and teach your kids
> that evil exists in the world and how they should
> react if the Devil comes calling.
>
> Life isn't safe. Get over it.
So C4 explosives and hand grenades shouldn't be banned?
Stop with your nonsense and excuses. We know that mainly one type of rifle is being used in all the attacks on malls and schools. Why wouldn't we outlaw that type of rifle?
It has certainly been proven, like C4 explosives and hand grenades, over and over that type of rifle is a threat to public security.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Reality Check,
> If you really want to "take preventative action
> now", lock up the criminally insane, post a cop or
> 'school resource officer', and teach your kids
> that evil exists in the world and how they should
> react if the Devil comes calling.
>
> Life isn't safe. Get over it.
So C4 explosives and hand grenades shouldn't be banned?
Stop with your nonsense and excuses. We know that mainly one type of rifle is being used in all the attacks on malls and schools. Why wouldn't we outlaw that type of rifle?
It has certainly been proven, like C4 explosives and hand grenades, over and over that type of rifle is a threat to public security.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BrandonG.M.U.
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:12PM
Its pretty much impossible to use explosives safely without significant damage to the area around it. You can use a firearm to defend yourself without killing/damaging everything within the surrounding area.
Attacks use handguns because they're killing people up close and for that you don't need a rifle. You can also carry two at the same time unlike a long gun. The difficulty in concealing a rifle is also a major factor.
Attacks use handguns because they're killing people up close and for that you don't need a rifle. You can also carry two at the same time unlike a long gun. The difficulty in concealing a rifle is also a major factor.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Reality Check 4 stupid idiot
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:17PM
Where can you get C4? You cannot. If you try to get such weapons there are strictly controlled ATF classes assigned to such things that is highly regulated.
FBI annual crime statistics show that hammers and clubs far outnumber the number of murders committed with a rifle.
Crimes committed with handguns are far more frequent compared to rifles. But of course you are yet another dumb fuck liberal afraid of the scary black rifle.
Dips shit.
FBI annual crime statistics show that hammers and clubs far outnumber the number of murders committed with a rifle.
Crimes committed with handguns are far more frequent compared to rifles. But of course you are yet another dumb fuck liberal afraid of the scary black rifle.
Dips shit.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Ed Realtor
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:17PM
BrandonG.M.U. Wrote:
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> Its pretty much impossible to use explosives
> safely without significant damage to the area
> around it. You can use a firearm to defend
> yourself without killing/damaging everything
> within the surrounding area.
>
> Attacks use handguns because they're killing
> people up close and for that you don't need a
> rifle. You can also carry two at the same time
> unlike a long gun. The difficulty in concealing a
> rifle is also a major factor.
The gunmen at the Newtown School, Aurora Mall and New Mexico had no problems walking around with a AR-15 and firing off hundreds of rounds.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Its pretty much impossible to use explosives
> safely without significant damage to the area
> around it. You can use a firearm to defend
> yourself without killing/damaging everything
> within the surrounding area.
>
> Attacks use handguns because they're killing
> people up close and for that you don't need a
> rifle. You can also carry two at the same time
> unlike a long gun. The difficulty in concealing a
> rifle is also a major factor.
The gunmen at the Newtown School, Aurora Mall and New Mexico had no problems walking around with a AR-15 and firing off hundreds of rounds.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Gun Control Now!
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:21PM
Reality Check 4 stupid idiot Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Where can you get C4? You cannot. If you try to
> get such weapons there are strictly controlled ATF
> classes assigned to such things that is highly
> regulated.
>
> FBI annual crime statistics show that hammers and
> clubs far outnumber the number of murders
> committed with a rifle.
>
> Crimes committed with handguns are far more
> frequent compared to rifles. But of course you are
> yet another dumb fuck liberal afraid of the scary
> black rifle.
>
> Dips shit.
So by your logic there are no crimes committed and deaths that can attributed to C4 because criminals can't get their hands on it. Because C4 can cause mass deaths...
Now you are starting to understand the concept of banning for public safety.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Where can you get C4? You cannot. If you try to
> get such weapons there are strictly controlled ATF
> classes assigned to such things that is highly
> regulated.
>
> FBI annual crime statistics show that hammers and
> clubs far outnumber the number of murders
> committed with a rifle.
>
> Crimes committed with handguns are far more
> frequent compared to rifles. But of course you are
> yet another dumb fuck liberal afraid of the scary
> black rifle.
>
> Dips shit.
So by your logic there are no crimes committed and deaths that can attributed to C4 because criminals can't get their hands on it. Because C4 can cause mass deaths...
Now you are starting to understand the concept of banning for public safety.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Factico
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:25PM
Reality Check 4 stupid idiot Wrote:
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>
> FBI annual crime statistics show that hammers and
> clubs far outnumber the number of murders
> committed with a rifle.
WRONG! WRONG!
In 2012 there were 12,082 deaths committed by firearms, 36 by hammers and 58 by club.
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>
> FBI annual crime statistics show that hammers and
> clubs far outnumber the number of murders
> committed with a rifle.
WRONG! WRONG!
In 2012 there were 12,082 deaths committed by firearms, 36 by hammers and 58 by club.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Rifles
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:31PM
Why do people think that an AR-15 is some high powered rifle? Because its black? Does a V-4 car with a sporty body kit make it a sports car?
Why no cal to ban FN FAL's and all their clones? Those can fire 20 and 30 round magazines and they fire .308 round which has more stopping power than the AR's .223 Remington.
Why no cal to ban FN FAL's and all their clones? Those can fire 20 and 30 round magazines and they fire .308 round which has more stopping power than the AR's .223 Remington.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Get Your Head Out of Your....
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:37PM
(snip)Stop with your nonsense and excuses. We know that mainly one type of rifle is being used in all the attacks on malls and schools. Why wouldn't we outlaw that type of rifle?
It has certainly been proven, like C4 explosives and hand grenades, over and over that type of rifle is a threat to public security(snip)
If *THAT* type of rifle is a threat to public security, WHY DO THE COPS IN FAIRFAX COUNTY HAVE THEM?!?
The rifle is an object. REPEAT AFTER ME...a hunk of steel and plastic will not ever hurt me.
Banning ojects doesn't work. Are you willing to ban swimming pools? Kids drown, you know...most of them in WATER. WATER KILLS KIDS! Let's ban water. ;)
Why WOULD you outlaw that type of rifle? Shouldn't we ban THAT type of CAR that kills kids? Or baseball bat?
Aren't illegal drugs...ummm, banned? How's that working out??
Personally, I'd rather have the HUMAN that causes the problem locked up, or at least in a padded room until they can be helped.
Really want to walk the dog with explosives and grenades? Try hard enough, and I'm POSITIVE you can get your hands on both, depsite them being incredibly difficult to own legally (not impossible, just difficult).
Name me one time that banning an object has actually worked. We tried it with alcohol in this country. THAT worked out well.
It has certainly been proven, like C4 explosives and hand grenades, over and over that type of rifle is a threat to public security(snip)
If *THAT* type of rifle is a threat to public security, WHY DO THE COPS IN FAIRFAX COUNTY HAVE THEM?!?
The rifle is an object. REPEAT AFTER ME...a hunk of steel and plastic will not ever hurt me.
Banning ojects doesn't work. Are you willing to ban swimming pools? Kids drown, you know...most of them in WATER. WATER KILLS KIDS! Let's ban water. ;)
Why WOULD you outlaw that type of rifle? Shouldn't we ban THAT type of CAR that kills kids? Or baseball bat?
Aren't illegal drugs...ummm, banned? How's that working out??
Personally, I'd rather have the HUMAN that causes the problem locked up, or at least in a padded room until they can be helped.
Really want to walk the dog with explosives and grenades? Try hard enough, and I'm POSITIVE you can get your hands on both, depsite them being incredibly difficult to own legally (not impossible, just difficult).
Name me one time that banning an object has actually worked. We tried it with alcohol in this country. THAT worked out well.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Holy F
()
Date: January 22, 2013 04:57PM
^Whoa^ That's a scary post. Put down the drugs now son.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Gun Control Now!
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:07PM
I will make this very simple.
YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD CAR SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD CAR SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
ICBS
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:10PM
Gun Control Now! Wrote:
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> I will make this very simple.
>
> YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD CAR
> SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
Car seats and lead paints aren't mentioned in the Constitution.
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> I will make this very simple.
>
> YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD CAR
> SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
Car seats and lead paints aren't mentioned in the Constitution.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Gun Control Now!
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:10PM
Forgot my favorite - Asbestos is banned too. : )
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BrandonG.M.U.
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:13PM
No demand or legit use now for unsafe car seats, lead paint, nor asbestos.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Read up Conservative GOP
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:14PM
ICBS Wrote:
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> Gun Control Now! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will make this very simple.
> >
> > YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD
> CAR
> > SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
>
> Car seats and lead paints aren't mentioned in the
> Constitution.
So what? We can always amend the constitution. We've been doing that ever since the constitution was written.
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> Gun Control Now! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will make this very simple.
> >
> > YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD
> CAR
> > SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
>
> Car seats and lead paints aren't mentioned in the
> Constitution.
So what? We can always amend the constitution. We've been doing that ever since the constitution was written.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BrandonG.M.U.
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:16PM
Yeah maybe we can declare certain religions invalid too.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Get Your Head Out of Your....
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:18PM
1. I'm not your son.
2. What's scary? Pointing out that Fairfax County cops have the EXACT types of weapons and 'high capacity' magazines that these liberals want banned? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Isn't that what we teach kids?
The arguement goes...'well, the cops need them because of the bad guys...'. Right, the cops patrol FAIRFAX COUNTY, where we supposedly all live. That means there are bad guys in the neighborhood, right? If you choose not to protect your family, make your peace with that and go to sleep tonight. Personally, I choose to protect my family with more than a cell phone. And how DARE you tell me how I can protect my family.
3. Prohibition didn't work. Cocaine and pot are illegal, but yet I'm pretty sure I could get my hands on either on the streets of Fairfax County, so how's that working? Banning objects doesn't work. What's scary about those statements?
Stop and think. The object is just an object. Explosives are generally difficult to own, yet the Unabomber cooked them up in his shack in the woods. The Oklahoma City bombings happened, and so have tons of other incidents. Crazy people will always find a way to do what they want to do. The key to the puzzle isn't the object...its the people.
Is that so hard to understand? Or do you just not WANT to understand that?
2. What's scary? Pointing out that Fairfax County cops have the EXACT types of weapons and 'high capacity' magazines that these liberals want banned? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Isn't that what we teach kids?
The arguement goes...'well, the cops need them because of the bad guys...'. Right, the cops patrol FAIRFAX COUNTY, where we supposedly all live. That means there are bad guys in the neighborhood, right? If you choose not to protect your family, make your peace with that and go to sleep tonight. Personally, I choose to protect my family with more than a cell phone. And how DARE you tell me how I can protect my family.
3. Prohibition didn't work. Cocaine and pot are illegal, but yet I'm pretty sure I could get my hands on either on the streets of Fairfax County, so how's that working? Banning objects doesn't work. What's scary about those statements?
Stop and think. The object is just an object. Explosives are generally difficult to own, yet the Unabomber cooked them up in his shack in the woods. The Oklahoma City bombings happened, and so have tons of other incidents. Crazy people will always find a way to do what they want to do. The key to the puzzle isn't the object...its the people.
Is that so hard to understand? Or do you just not WANT to understand that?
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
History Major
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:18PM
Thomas Jefferson and many others agreed that the constitution was a starting point and living document.
Thomas Jeffersons Quote-
"I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
Thomas Jeffersons Quote-
"I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 101
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:21PM
Read up Conservative GOP Wrote:
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> ICBS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gun Control Now! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I will make this very simple.
> > >
> > > YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD
> > CAR
> > > SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
> >
> > Car seats and lead paints aren't mentioned in
> the
> > Constitution.
>
> So what? We can always amend the constitution.
> We've been doing that ever since the constitution
> was written.
Okay we can amend the 2nd amendment right after we go back to saying you have to be a land owner to vote. Since you think rights are trivial, your right to vote shouldnt mean anything
-------------------------------------------------------
> ICBS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gun Control Now! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I will make this very simple.
> > >
> > > YES WE BAN OBJECTS THAT ARE UNSAFE LIKE CHILD
> > CAR
> > > SEATS AND LEAD PAINTS.
> >
> > Car seats and lead paints aren't mentioned in
> the
> > Constitution.
>
> So what? We can always amend the constitution.
> We've been doing that ever since the constitution
> was written.
Okay we can amend the 2nd amendment right after we go back to saying you have to be a land owner to vote. Since you think rights are trivial, your right to vote shouldnt mean anything
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Get Your Head Out of Your....
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:22PM
Ahh, the joys of typing when fired up...
Forgive the typo above. This being the internet and all, I'm sure someone is going to jump on that instead of actually debating the meat of the post above.
Going back to my JOB now...you can debate this until the cows come home, but I've got taxes to pay.
Forgive the typo above. This being the internet and all, I'm sure someone is going to jump on that instead of actually debating the meat of the post above.
Going back to my JOB now...you can debate this until the cows come home, but I've got taxes to pay.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Gun Control Now!
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:25PM
Get Your Head Out of Your.... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 1. I'm not your son.
>
> 2. What's scary? Pointing out that Fairfax County
> cops have the EXACT types of weapons and 'high
> capacity' magazines that these liberals want
> banned? What's good for the goose is good for the
> gander, right? Isn't that what we teach kids?
>
> The arguement goes...'well, the cops need them
> because of the bad guys...'. Right, the cops
> patrol FAIRFAX COUNTY, where we supposedly all
> live. That means there are bad guys in the
> neighborhood, right? If you choose not to protect
> your family, make your peace with that and go to
> sleep tonight. Personally, I choose to protect my
> family with more than a cell phone. And how DARE
> you tell me how I can protect my family.
>
> 3. Prohibition didn't work. Cocaine and pot are
> illegal, but yet I'm pretty sure I could get my
> hands on either on the streets of Fairfax County,
> so how's that working? Banning objects doesn't
> work. What's scary about those statements?
>
> Stop and think. The object is just an object.
> Explosives are generally difficult to own, yet the
> Unabomber cooked them up in his shack in the
> woods. The Oklahoma City bombings happened, and so
> have tons of other incidents. Crazy people will
> always find a way to do what they want to do. The
> key to the puzzle isn't the object...its the
> people.
>
> Is that so hard to understand? Or do you just not
> WANT to understand that?
If nothing can be stopped then why lock your car or house?
It's simple, you're putting in place barriers to prevent unnecessary actions from occurring.
By the way... another school shooting occurred today. Go figure.
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> 1. I'm not your son.
>
> 2. What's scary? Pointing out that Fairfax County
> cops have the EXACT types of weapons and 'high
> capacity' magazines that these liberals want
> banned? What's good for the goose is good for the
> gander, right? Isn't that what we teach kids?
>
> The arguement goes...'well, the cops need them
> because of the bad guys...'. Right, the cops
> patrol FAIRFAX COUNTY, where we supposedly all
> live. That means there are bad guys in the
> neighborhood, right? If you choose not to protect
> your family, make your peace with that and go to
> sleep tonight. Personally, I choose to protect my
> family with more than a cell phone. And how DARE
> you tell me how I can protect my family.
>
> 3. Prohibition didn't work. Cocaine and pot are
> illegal, but yet I'm pretty sure I could get my
> hands on either on the streets of Fairfax County,
> so how's that working? Banning objects doesn't
> work. What's scary about those statements?
>
> Stop and think. The object is just an object.
> Explosives are generally difficult to own, yet the
> Unabomber cooked them up in his shack in the
> woods. The Oklahoma City bombings happened, and so
> have tons of other incidents. Crazy people will
> always find a way to do what they want to do. The
> key to the puzzle isn't the object...its the
> people.
>
> Is that so hard to understand? Or do you just not
> WANT to understand that?
If nothing can be stopped then why lock your car or house?
It's simple, you're putting in place barriers to prevent unnecessary actions from occurring.
By the way... another school shooting occurred today. Go figure.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BrandonG.M.U.
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:31PM
Feel free to boycott Groupon for pulling anything associated with guns including gun safety and self-defense training classes. Local shithead and failed owner Ted Leonsis sits on their board and has financed them heavily. Typical thinking from a former AOL asshole. Guess he got bored with running the Wizards into the ground and making sure that the Caps fail in the playoffs every year.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Get Your Head Out of Your....
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:33PM
There is no law forcing me to lock my doors. That's MY CHOICE, not some imposed feel good law.
If you want to lock your doors, feel free. And I'll choose to lock mine. But don't tell me I have to do something by law that is inherently a CHOICE by an INDIVIDUAL.
Thank you for making my point.
Want to save lives? Put throttle limits in every car sold, and retrofit every car on the road. No one NEEDS to go 75mph, and throttling everyone will save lives. Since the you don't have a RIGHT to own OR drive a car, you should be perfectly fine with that solution to saving lives. And it will be more effective than banning plastic, steel, and aluminum objects.
If you want to lock your doors, feel free. And I'll choose to lock mine. But don't tell me I have to do something by law that is inherently a CHOICE by an INDIVIDUAL.
Thank you for making my point.
Want to save lives? Put throttle limits in every car sold, and retrofit every car on the road. No one NEEDS to go 75mph, and throttling everyone will save lives. Since the you don't have a RIGHT to own OR drive a car, you should be perfectly fine with that solution to saving lives. And it will be more effective than banning plastic, steel, and aluminum objects.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Another School Shooting
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:34PM
This just in, another school shooting in Houston
(CNN) -- Students ducked under desks and ran for cover during a shooting at a community college in Texas on Tuesday.
At least three people were injured in the shooting at the North Harris Campus of Lone Star College in Houston, including two students who were apparently caught in crossfire, a school spokesman said.
Two suspects involved in the shooting were in custody, CNN affiliates KHOU and KTRK reported. CNN has not independently confirmed the second suspect's arrest.
Witnesses told CNN affiliates that at least one gunman opened fire after an altercation between two people.
Jed Young, a school spokesman, said officials believe there were two shooters.
One of them was among the wounded and was taken into custody shortly after the shooting, he said. The other shooter fled the campus, Young said.
(CNN) -- Students ducked under desks and ran for cover during a shooting at a community college in Texas on Tuesday.
At least three people were injured in the shooting at the North Harris Campus of Lone Star College in Houston, including two students who were apparently caught in crossfire, a school spokesman said.
Two suspects involved in the shooting were in custody, CNN affiliates KHOU and KTRK reported. CNN has not independently confirmed the second suspect's arrest.
Witnesses told CNN affiliates that at least one gunman opened fire after an altercation between two people.
Jed Young, a school spokesman, said officials believe there were two shooters.
One of them was among the wounded and was taken into custody shortly after the shooting, he said. The other shooter fled the campus, Young said.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
More GUNS Damn it!
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:37PM
^ That's what happens when you have guns in schools ^
More guns, more shootings. I wonder if the shooter looked the wrong at his girlfriend? That's shooting stuff!
More guns, more shootings. I wonder if the shooter looked the wrong at his girlfriend? That's shooting stuff!
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
So who is going?
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:38PM
Who is going to the meeting tonight with the large sign: "Keep Your HANDS OFF My Guns"
I cannot make the meeting, but look forward to the FFXU report.
I cannot make the meeting, but look forward to the FFXU report.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Mason Jars
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:41PM
A bunch of us students from George Mason are going to support the gun control initiative.
No Guns on Campus!
No Guns on Campus!
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Westerns
()
Date: January 22, 2013 05:44PM
So who is going? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who is going to the meeting tonight with the large
> sign: "Keep Your HANDS OFF My Guns"
>
>
> I cannot make the meeting, but look forward to the
> FFXU report.
I'll be there with my sign "KEEP YOUR BULLETS OUT OF MY KIDS!"
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who is going to the meeting tonight with the large
> sign: "Keep Your HANDS OFF My Guns"
>
>
> I cannot make the meeting, but look forward to the
> FFXU report.
I'll be there with my sign "KEEP YOUR BULLETS OUT OF MY KIDS!"
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
MouseInTheCorner
()
Date: January 22, 2013 06:09PM
More GUNS Damn it! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^ That's what happens when you have guns in
> schools ^
>
> More guns, more shootings. I wonder if the
> shooter looked the wrong at his girlfriend?
> That's shooting stuff!
The college is a Gun Free Zone. Guess they didn't see the signs.
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^ That's what happens when you have guns in
> schools ^
>
> More guns, more shootings. I wonder if the
> shooter looked the wrong at his girlfriend?
> That's shooting stuff!
The college is a Gun Free Zone. Guess they didn't see the signs.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BrandonG.M.U.
()
Date: January 22, 2013 06:33PM
Mason Jars Wrote:
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> A bunch of us students from George Mason are going
> to support the gun control initiative.
>
> No Guns on Campus!
There were and probably still are guns on students while on campus.
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> A bunch of us students from George Mason are going
> to support the gun control initiative.
>
> No Guns on Campus!
There were and probably still are guns on students while on campus.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
MosbyDick
()
Date: January 22, 2013 06:40PM
Is GM security armed? I've never really paid attention.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
BrandonG.M.U.
()
Date: January 22, 2013 06:43PM
Unless something has changed in the past few years, the police at Mason and at NOVA are armed officers.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 101
()
Date: January 22, 2013 07:09PM
More GUNS Damn it! Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^ That's what happens when you have guns in
> schools ^
>
> More guns, more shootings. I wonder if the
> shooter looked the wrong at his girlfriend?
> That's shooting stuff!
There wasnt more guns in that school there were whatever guns the shooters had. You seem to be missing the connection that almost all of these shootings happen at soft targets where they know no one else is armed.
You want to stop school shootings tell the media to stop hounding it. All theyve done is given twisted or mentally ill individuals a way to leave their mark on the world as they exit it.
-------------------------------------------------------
> ^ That's what happens when you have guns in
> schools ^
>
> More guns, more shootings. I wonder if the
> shooter looked the wrong at his girlfriend?
> That's shooting stuff!
There wasnt more guns in that school there were whatever guns the shooters had. You seem to be missing the connection that almost all of these shootings happen at soft targets where they know no one else is armed.
You want to stop school shootings tell the media to stop hounding it. All theyve done is given twisted or mentally ill individuals a way to leave their mark on the world as they exit it.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 101
()
Date: January 22, 2013 07:10PM
MosbyDick Wrote:
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> Is GM security armed? I've never really paid
> attention.
Theyre state police officers, yes the GMU police are armed but are no better than waiting for fairfax city police since they arent in buildings and basically just drive around or wait for a call
-------------------------------------------------------
> Is GM security armed? I've never really paid
> attention.
Theyre state police officers, yes the GMU police are armed but are no better than waiting for fairfax city police since they arent in buildings and basically just drive around or wait for a call
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
So who is going?
()
Date: January 22, 2013 08:25PM
Westerns Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So who is going? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who is going to the meeting tonight with the
> large
> > sign: "Keep Your HANDS OFF My Guns"
> >
> >
> > I cannot make the meeting, but look forward to
> the
> > FFXU report.
>
> I'll be there with my sign "KEEP YOUR BULLETS OUT
> OF MY KIDS!"
Pics of your sign AT the meeting, or I call BS.
-------------------------------------------------------
> So who is going? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who is going to the meeting tonight with the
> large
> > sign: "Keep Your HANDS OFF My Guns"
> >
> >
> > I cannot make the meeting, but look forward to
> the
> > FFXU report.
>
> I'll be there with my sign "KEEP YOUR BULLETS OUT
> OF MY KIDS!"
Pics of your sign AT the meeting, or I call BS.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Dane Bramage
()
Date: January 22, 2013 09:09PM
Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> MosbyDick Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is GM security armed? I've never really paid
> > attention.
>
>
> Theyre state police officers, yes the GMU police
> are armed but are no better than waiting for
> fairfax city police since they arent in buildings
> and basically just drive around or wait for a call
They hang out the Dunkin Donuts at University Mall. Except when they're playing cops. http://newsdesk.gmu.edu/2013/01/fairfax-campus-to-host-joint-safety-training-exercises-with-city-of-fairfax-and-fairfax-county/
Boom!
-------------------------------------------------
“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
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> MosbyDick Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is GM security armed? I've never really paid
> > attention.
>
>
> Theyre state police officers, yes the GMU police
> are armed but are no better than waiting for
> fairfax city police since they arent in buildings
> and basically just drive around or wait for a call
They hang out the Dunkin Donuts at University Mall. Except when they're playing cops. http://newsdesk.gmu.edu/2013/01/fairfax-campus-to-host-joint-safety-training-exercises-with-city-of-fairfax-and-fairfax-county/
Boom!
-------------------------------------------------
“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Long Timer
()
Date: January 24, 2013 05:47PM
Are the refreshments fair trade, free range, organic, locally sourced from cooperative farms employing sustainable practices and paying their workers/owners a living wage? If not, I'm not going.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
guntotinchristian
()
Date: January 26, 2013 04:51PM
Interesting data!
"Why is it the progressive liberal that steals guns and then goes and kills
movie goers and children in school has never been an NRA member?"
Ft Hood - Registered Democrat- Muslim
Columbine - Too young to vote - both families were registered Democrats
and progressive liberals
VA Tech - Wrote hate mail to Pres Bush and to his staff. Registered
Democrat
Colorado Theater - Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama
campaign, occupy wall street participant, progressive liberal
Connecticut School Shooter - Registered Democrat, hated Christians
Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal
democrats."
Interesting...isn't it?
"Why is it the progressive liberal that steals guns and then goes and kills
movie goers and children in school has never been an NRA member?"
Ft Hood - Registered Democrat- Muslim
Columbine - Too young to vote - both families were registered Democrats
and progressive liberals
VA Tech - Wrote hate mail to Pres Bush and to his staff. Registered
Democrat
Colorado Theater - Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama
campaign, occupy wall street participant, progressive liberal
Connecticut School Shooter - Registered Democrat, hated Christians
Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal
democrats."
Interesting...isn't it?
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
omegajb
()
Date: January 26, 2013 04:56PM
I don't really care which side of this issue most people are on but I find it odd they want to ban guns but having Planned Parenthood perform over 300,000 abortions a year is alright by them.
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 102
()
Date: January 26, 2013 06:47PM
omegajb Wrote:
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> I don't really care which side of this issue most
> people are on but I find it odd they want to ban
> guns but having Planned Parenthood perform over
> 300,000 abortions a year is alright by them.
EXACTLY THIS.
This has never been about the kids, its always been about getting rid of things they dont like and theyre just using kids as something to hide behind
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> I don't really care which side of this issue most
> people are on but I find it odd they want to ban
> guns but having Planned Parenthood perform over
> 300,000 abortions a year is alright by them.
EXACTLY THIS.
This has never been about the kids, its always been about getting rid of things they dont like and theyre just using kids as something to hide behind
Re: Gun Control Meeting Jan 22
Posted by:
YTcnF
()
Date: November 30, 2016 07:55PM
Fairfax County Democrats Wrote:
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> You're invited to join us for this free and open
> event next Tuesday. Here are the details:
>
> The Springfield District Democratic Committee and
> the National Affairs Committee present
>
> Stop Gun Violence: A Discussion on the Overhaul of
> the Federal and Virginia Gun Laws
>
> Tuesday, January 22, 2013
> 7:00 PM - 7:45 PM
> FCDC General Meeting to follow
> West Springfield High School Cafeteria
> 6100 Rolling Rd, Springfield, VA 22152
-------------------------------------------------------
> You're invited to join us for this free and open
> event next Tuesday. Here are the details:
>
> The Springfield District Democratic Committee and
> the National Affairs Committee present
>
> Stop Gun Violence: A Discussion on the Overhaul of
> the Federal and Virginia Gun Laws
>
> Tuesday, January 22, 2013
> 7:00 PM - 7:45 PM
> FCDC General Meeting to follow
> West Springfield High School Cafeteria
> 6100 Rolling Rd, Springfield, VA 22152