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“DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: July 05, 2016 01:29AM

Key Points from "Gender Ideology Harms Children”, a published position statement by The American College of Pediatricians (ACP) published March 26, 2016

ACP urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts – not ideology – determine reality.

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KEY POINTS:
1.Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait.

2.The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female.

3.Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species. This principle is self-evident.

4.No one is born with a gender.

5.Everyone is born with a biological sex.

6.Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one.

7.People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex.

8.A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking.

9.When a healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, it is a recognized mental disorder.

10.As many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.

11.Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require
Conditioning children into believing that a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.

12.Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures that they will “choose” a lifetime of carcinogenic and otherwise toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.

13.[Obama’s mandate and fcps new rules] advocate a new scientifically BASELESS standard of care for children with a psychological condition that would otherwise resolve after puberty for the vast majority of patients concerned.

14.Our opponents advocate affirmation of children’s thoughts which are contrary to physical reality.

15.There is an obvious self-fulfilling nature to encouraging young children to impersonate the opposite sex and then institute pubertal suppression. If a boy who questions whether or not he is a boy (who is meant to grow into a man) is treated as a girl, then has his natural pubertal progression to manhood suppressed, have we not set in motion an inevitable outcome? All of his same sex peers develop into young men, his opposite sex friends develop into young women, but he remains a pre-pubertal boy. He will be left psychosocially isolated and alone. He will be left with the psychological impression that something is wrong. He will be less able to identify with his same sex peers and being male, and thus be more likely to self identify as “non-male” or female.

16.It is abusive to promote this ideology, first and foremost for the well-being of the gender dysphoric children themselves, and secondly, for all of their non-gender-discordant peers, many of whom will subsequently question their own gender identity, and face violations of their right to bodily privacy and safety.


See full article listed\ references at: https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Libtard lunacy ()
Date: July 05, 2016 01:55AM

You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: nHCcJ ()
Date: July 05, 2016 02:17AM

>You don't need to be a doctor to know that.

No, but when the federal government, posing as experts, claim the contrary, it helps to have the medical profession call them out for it.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: LIAR ()
Date: July 05, 2016 03:35AM

This is so tedious. The bogus right wing American College of Pediatricians is trying to pretend it is the legitimate American Academy of Pediatrics. Why don't you people ever investigate the bullshit put out by your beloved extremist right wing media?

The American College of Pediatricians (ACP), which utilizes the totally convincing slogan “Best for Children,” has issued a new position statement claiming that respecting transgender children’s identities causes them harm and conservative groups are already latching onto it.

If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because it’s a claim completely refuted by all available scientific evidence. It’s also because the ACP is not a legitimate medical organization; its name is designed to be mistaken for the American Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP, by contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200 members, and it has been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its anti-LGBT positions.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: TheObvi0us ()
Date: July 05, 2016 04:11AM

Right winged or not, surgically altering oneself to fit a mental construct is mental illness.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Formerly Confused ()
Date: July 05, 2016 04:16AM

So the liberals HATE the American College of Pediatricians. No surprise there.

FCPS forcing everyone to accept those who want to switch gender identity is as evil as it sounds, and does far more harm than good to those who have a gender identity problem.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: kbe7b ()
Date: July 05, 2016 04:35AM

>the totally convincing slogan “Best for Children,”

Reminds me a lot of Hillary ads. Everything for the children. Like if there were no children she wouldn't be running for office. Baloney.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Libtardz!!! LoLz!! ()
Date: July 05, 2016 05:07AM

LIAR Wrote:
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it has been designated a hate
> group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its
> anti-LGBT positions.

Lol, it cracks me up when somebody cites the SPLC. They hate everyone who is white and normal.

Nice try, though.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: not the AAP ()
Date: July 05, 2016 05:29AM

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It was an official-sounding but fringe group of politically motivated pediatricians who issued a statement on gender, not the respected American Academy of Pediatrics.
http://www.snopes.com/americas-pediatricians-gender-kids/

I would say "shame on the OP" but it is clear that he has no shame.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: try try again ()
Date: July 05, 2016 05:33AM

Libtardz!!! LoLz!! Wrote:
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> Lol, it cracks me up when somebody cites the SPLC.
> They hate everyone who is white and normal.
>
> Nice try, though.

Your assertion is a bald-faced lie but, of course, truth has little relevance to you.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: agreed ()
Date: July 05, 2016 06:52AM

nHCcJ Wrote:
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> >You don't need to be a doctor to know that.
>
> No, but when the federal government, posing as
> experts, claim the contrary, it helps to have the
> medical profession call them out for it.

Agreed. It's interesting to note that The American College of Pediatrics not only says that these policies are in error but that they are actually *harmful* to children and in some cases rise to the level of child abuse. That is some pretty strong language.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: trtrhrg ()
Date: July 05, 2016 07:54AM

Liberals will think that hormone therapy doesn't cause cancer in this case, because PCness trumps science in all aspects.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: whhyyynot ()
Date: July 05, 2016 07:55AM

If students decided to identify as faculty or even the principal, would liberals play along? Which delusions will liberals enable and which will they not enable?

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: No bull here jack ()
Date: July 05, 2016 08:03AM

Interesting that the left is attacking the messenger instead of the message. It's the politics of intimidation, which they have perfected to a science. Instead of attacking each other, however, let's look at some facts:

No objective test for gender dysphoria. Cannot get confirmation of condition through lab tests, brain scan, or DNA.

High percentage of trans have co-existing conditions -- e.g. JAMA Pediatrics, March 2016 -- Sample of 298 transgender women showed 40% had co-existing substance abuse and mental health diagnosis. Most common: Depression and non-alcohol psychoactive substance use dependance.

Difficult to distinguish between transgenderism and dissociative disorder, close resemblance brought on by common factor, childhood trauma.

2015 study shows insufficient research for any recommendation on treatment of children (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26119518).

With the above facts, compassion suggests more research instead of social experimentation.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Date: July 05, 2016 10:51AM

What should concern us, is those of us with a need for sex segregated privacy in bathrooms, lockers and showers are going to lose that right.

It doesn't matter why your child has that need, but we need to face reality, there is a large number of children (and parents that mandate this on their children) who have this need for sex segregation. Could be for religious reasons, or not. Could be because your ethnicity and culture mandate it. Whatever the reason, the policy FCPS is proposing completely takes that away from our children, and forces the biological sexes into spaces together where adequate privacy is not provided for them.

This also steps on women's rights, because it takes away sex segregated sports teams, fair competition, and allows biological male students with a real biological advantage to displace girls who would otherwise be able to compete.

Yes, we should protect gender non-conforming students from harm, bullying, and educational opportunity should never be denied. We need to love and respect all our students. This includes those with a mandate for sex segregation for whatever their modesty reasons are.

We need to stand up to the school board and let them know our child's needs. And that any policy put up for vote go through a process where all needs are considered and protected.

Please sign this petition, and let as many people know as possible to sign it, and write the school board members and let them know your opinion on the matter.

https://www.change.org/p/school-board-for-fairfax-county-public-schools-respect-all-student-rights-in-the-fcps-gender-identity-non-discrimination-policy

Show up at the July 14th at 6PM for the forum, be present to show your opposition to passing something that violates our student rights so severely.

Luther Jackson Middle School
3020 Gallows Rd., Falls Church, VA

Attached is a copy of the policy they will be approving then. Read it and be informed of how it impacts your children.
Attachments:
Transgender Reg 7-1-16.pdf

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: HNvHN ()
Date: July 05, 2016 11:50AM

No bull here jack Wrote:
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> Interesting that the left is attacking the
> messenger instead of the message. It's the
> politics of intimidation,

In this case it is those on the right that claimed we should be paying attention to the message BECAUSE of who the messenger was. You made the identity of the messenger a basis for the legitimacy of the message. Having done so you cannot turn around and say that the messenger is out of bounds.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: What a laugh ()
Date: July 05, 2016 12:04PM

@HNvNH -- Interesting that you insist on focusing on the messenger, and totally avoid discussing the facts. You proved the point you were arguing against.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: HNvHN ()
Date: July 05, 2016 12:57PM

Since you asked What a laugh:

1.Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: This statement is meaningless until defined, and when defined is quite often WRONG. If by sexuality you mean genetically defined sex, the norm for humans is to be born with either XX chromosomes if female and XY if male. However their are individuals born with a different combination, so there are MORE THAN TWO OPTIONS. If by sexuality you are talking about sexual behaviour or sexual preferences you again run into problems. In nature you will find males that have sex with females, males that have sex with males, males that will have sex with anything or males not interested in sex.

2.The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female: The comments above about humans who have chromosome combinations other than XX and XY disproves this statement.

3.Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species: Among mamals sex isn't simply about reproduction. It is also about pecking order. If you doubt it, spend some time in a dog park.

5.Everyone is born with a biological sex: This is true in the sense that we assign one based largely on outward physical appearances. However a person's sexual preferences and sexual identity can be driven by biological factors inconsistent with their outward physical appearance.

7.People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex: We've already established above that there are genetically more than two sexes. To carry this further though "sex" is driven by the cocktail of hormones that are body is producing, not just from our body parts. Even among individuals sharing the same chromosome makeup, the cocktail of hormones will differ.

8.A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking: This statement starts with the assumption that the sociental standard of judging what someone is is the only valid one. If it turns out society is incorrect or non-exclusive in setting its standards, the person's belief may indicate he or she has a more accurate assessment of what he or she is than society does.

9.When a healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, it is a recognized mental disorder: This is true because we chose to label it as one. It does raise the question why the ACP chose to qualify the statement with the word "healthy". Presumably they do not mean psychologically healthy because they then go on to say it is a mental disorder. If they mean physical, why would it be OK for a non-healthy biological boy to believe he is a girl but not a healthy one? Likewise why would it be OK for society to define and treat a non-healthy biological boy different from a healthy one?

10.As many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty: So what the ACP is saying is that despite being bombarded with social pressure to conform to socially acceptable norms, some boys and girls do hold out. How does this not undermine the ACP's argument?

13.[Obama’s mandate and fcps new rules] advocate a new scientifically BASELESS standard of care for children with a psychological condition that would otherwise resolve after puberty for the vast majority of patients concerned: Or it recognizes that our old fashioned world where men are men and do manly things and women are women and do womanly things was a gross oversimplification of how humans function.

14.Our opponents advocate affirmation of children’s thoughts which are contrary to physical reality: Your opponents advocate affirmation of children's thoughts which are contrary to your PHILOSOPHY-not quite the same thing.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Ha Ha Ha ()
Date: July 05, 2016 01:42PM

Hey HNvHN, you provided the laugh for today. You trashed the American College of Pediatrics statement by either misstating it or taking statements out of context, then showing the misstatement is wrong. What a laugh!

You also misinterpreted terms significantly, for example, you misinterpreted the term "norm" to mean "all the time".

Anyone who reads the entire statement (https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children) will readily see that you were seeking to mislead rather than enlighted.

But I guess that's what you do best!

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: HNvHN ()
Date: July 05, 2016 07:18PM

The only laughable thing was that I thought I could engage an obvious troll in an honest debate. Crawl back under the bridge with your troll buddies who like you have XXY chromosomes. While you are there you might want to check out what "norm" means in psychology.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: 100k in debt ()
Date: July 05, 2016 07:23PM

When I read the thread title I immediately thought they were talking about accruing 100k in debt to go to college.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: VhJVN ()
Date: July 05, 2016 07:36PM

LIAR Wrote:
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> This is so tedious. The bogus right wing American
> College of Pediatricians is trying to pretend it
> is the legitimate American Academy of Pediatrics.
> Why don't you people ever investigate the bullshit
> put out by your beloved extremist right wing
> media?
>
> The American College of Pediatricians (ACP),
> which utilizes the totally convincing slogan
> “Best for Children,” has issued a new position
> statement claiming that respecting transgender
> children’s identities causes them harm and
> conservative groups are already latching onto it.
>
> If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because
> it’s a claim completely refuted by all available
> scientific evidence. It’s also because the
> ACP is not a legitimate medical organization; its
> name is designed to be mistaken for the American
> Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national
> organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP, by
> contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200
> members, and it has been designated a hate
> group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its
> anti-LGBT positions.



Johns Hopkins agrees 100% and REFUSES to do gender reassignment.

How "right wing" is Johns Hopkins again?

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: an observation ()
Date: July 05, 2016 08:34PM

VhJVN Wrote:
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> LIAR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This is so tedious. The bogus right wing
> American
> > College of Pediatricians is trying to pretend
> it
> > is the legitimate American Academy of
> Pediatrics.
> > Why don't you people ever investigate the
> bullshit
> > put out by your beloved extremist right wing
> > media?
> >
> > The American College of Pediatricians (ACP),
> > which utilizes the totally convincing slogan
> > “Best for Children,” has issued a new
> position
> > statement claiming that respecting transgender
> > children’s identities causes them harm and
> > conservative groups are already latching onto
> it.
> >
> > If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because
> > it’s a claim completely refuted by all
> available
> > scientific evidence. It’s also because the
> > ACP is not a legitimate medical organization;
> its
> > name is designed to be mistaken for the
> American
> > Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national
> > organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP,
> by
> > contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200
> > members, and it has been designated a hate
> > group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for
> its
> > anti-LGBT positions.

>
>
> Johns Hopkins agrees 100% and REFUSES to do gender
> reassignment.
>
> How "right wing" is Johns Hopkins again?
>
> http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/
> johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-diso
> rder-sex-change

Dr. Paul McHugh is as right wing as they come. http://www.glaad.org/blog/wall-street-journal-runs-op-ed-longtime-anti-trans-psychiatrist-paul-mchugh

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Another First for Obama ()
Date: July 05, 2016 09:00PM

Barack Hussein Obama is our first Transgendered President.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: 98979087888ujju ()
Date: July 05, 2016 09:25PM

LIAR Wrote:
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> This is so tedious. The bogus right wing American
> College of Pediatricians is trying to pretend it
> is the legitimate American Academy of Pediatrics.
> Why don't you people ever investigate the bullshit
> put out by your beloved extremist right wing
> media?
>
> The American College of Pediatricians (ACP),
> which utilizes the totally convincing slogan
> “Best for Children,” has issued a new position
> statement claiming that respecting transgender
> children’s identities causes them harm and
> conservative groups are already latching onto it.
>
> If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because
> it’s a claim completely refuted by all available
> scientific evidence. It’s also because the
> ACP is not a legitimate medical organization; its
> name is designed to be mistaken for the American
> Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national
> organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP, by
> contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200
> members, and it has been designated a hate
> group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its
> anti-LGBT positions.


You do realize that the Southern Poverty Law Center now considers all non-liberal groups hate groups? If you're against gay marriage or anti-abortion or if you don't believe in human-caused global warming and meet with similarly minded people, you're now a member of a hate group.

Sorry, but if you're going to call the ACP a phony organization that functions for a blatantly political purpose, the same now goes for the SPLC.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: VtPdP ()
Date: July 05, 2016 10:12PM

Let me fix this thread, so posters can stop arguing about WHO the message and facts are from - and discuss the content.

It is always a failed argument to disregard information based on the provider.

So, I am posting what I think about the "Trans" trend/delusion that is infecting our society.




KEY POINTS:
1.Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait.

2.The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female.

3.Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species. This principle is self-evident.

4.No one is born with a gender.

5.Everyone is born with a biological sex.

6.Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one.

7.People who identify as “feeling like the opposite sex” or “somewhere in between” do not comprise a third sex.

8.A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking.

9.When a healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, it is a recognized mental disorder.

10.As many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.

11.Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require
Conditioning children into believing that a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.

12.Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to “gender clinics” where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs. This, in turn, virtually ensures that they will “choose” a lifetime of carcinogenic and otherwise toxic cross-sex hormones, and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.

13.[Obama’s mandate and fcps new rules] advocate a new scientifically BASELESS standard of care for children with a psychological condition that would otherwise resolve after puberty for the vast majority of patients concerned.

14.Our opponents advocate affirmation of children’s thoughts which are contrary to physical reality.

15.There is an obvious self-fulfilling nature to encouraging young children to impersonate the opposite sex and then institute pubertal suppression. If a boy who questions whether or not he is a boy (who is meant to grow into a man) is treated as a girl, then has his natural pubertal progression to manhood suppressed, have we not set in motion an inevitable outcome? All of his same sex peers develop into young men, his opposite sex friends develop into young women, but he remains a pre-pubertal boy. He will be left psychosocially isolated and alone. He will be left with the psychological impression that something is wrong. He will be less able to identify with his same sex peers and being male, and thus be more likely to self identify as “non-male” or female.

16.It is abusive to promote this ideology, first and foremost for the well-being of the gender dysphoric children themselves, and secondly, for all of their non-gender-discordant peers, many of whom will subsequently question their own gender identity, and face violations of their right to bodily privacy and safety.


The "Key Points" are backed up by actual science and common sense. I will add, if we were to disregard science and accept this fantasy as real - these people have the exact same rights as anyone else in this country.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Liar copy and paste ()
Date: July 05, 2016 11:22PM

LIAR Wrote:
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> This is so tedious. The bogus right wing American
> College of Pediatricians is trying to pretend it
> is the legitimate American Academy of Pediatrics.
> Why don't you people ever investigate the bullshit
> put out by your beloved extremist right wing
> media?
>
> The American College of Pediatricians (ACP),
> which utilizes the totally convincing slogan
> “Best for Children,” has issued a new position
> statement claiming that respecting transgender
> children’s identities causes them harm and
> conservative groups are already latching onto it.
>
> If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because
> it’s a claim completely refuted by all available
> scientific evidence. It’s also because the
> ACP is not a legitimate medical organization; its
> name is designed to be mistaken for the American
> Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national
> organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP, by
> contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200
> members, and it has been designated a hate
> group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its
> anti-LGBT positions.



This is so tedious.

Your post is a copy & paste from a far-left wack site called, Think Progress. Here's the link, which YOU, if you were honest, would have included in your post.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/03/22/3762261/pediatrician-hate-group/


RE: The American Academy of Pediatricians

- Why did it take Mom Bloggers to convince the non-profit organization to cut its corporate partnership with Monsanto?

http://ecowatch.com/2015/10/06/aap-cuts-ties-with-monsanto/

- Why did the AAP suddenly reverse its position on mercury?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/21/why-does-the-american-academy-of-pediatrics-put-corporate-profits-ahead-of-childrens-health/

AND, FYI:
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a left-wing hate group. Why don't you people EVER question your beloved extremist left-wing media before latching on to hate groups?

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: enlightened" ()
Date: July 06, 2016 07:01AM

Liar copy and paste Wrote:
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> The Southern Poverty Law Center is a left-wing
> hate group. Why don't you people EVER question
> your beloved extremist left-wing media before
> latching on to hate groups?

You must have a very non-standard definition of "hate group." Members of this group have put their lives on the line to help the powerless and disenfranchised. They are constantly subject to threats of violence (from real hate groups). They have more courage in their pinkie fingers than you have in your entire body.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Oh please ()
Date: July 06, 2016 08:47AM

@rnlightened, even a cursory glance and the Southern Poverty Law Center's web page reveals they are a radical fringe group, far from mainstream thought. As for being courageous, that quality is not unique to the mainstream. Fringe groups have it as well. Your plea to courage hardly justifies any assertion that they are mainstream.

I will say something in their favor: they apologized to Dr. Carson (https://www.splcenter.org/news/2015/02/11/splc-statement-dr-ben-carson). However, their initial smear against him shows where they are coming from.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: enlightened ()
Date: July 06, 2016 09:16AM

Oh please Wrote:
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> @rnlightened, even a cursory glance and the
> Southern Poverty Law Center's web page reveals
> they are a radical fringe group, far from
> mainstream thought. As for being courageous, that
> quality is not unique to the mainstream. Fringe
> groups have it as well. Your plea to courage
> hardly justifies any assertion that they are
> mainstream.
>
> I will say something in their favor: they
> apologized to Dr. Carson
> (https://www.splcenter.org/news/2015/02/11/splc-st
> atement-dr-ben-carson). However, their initial
> smear against him shows where they are coming
> from.

Quit moving the goal posts. The question was not whether they are mainstream. They are politically to the left---far to the left of where I am. That does not make them a hate group.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: too funny ()
Date: July 06, 2016 09:18AM

Liar copy and paste Wrote:
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> LIAR Wrote:
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> > This is so tedious. The bogus right wing
> American
> > College of Pediatricians is trying to pretend
> it
> > is the legitimate American Academy of
> Pediatrics.
> > Why don't you people ever investigate the
> bullshit
> > put out by your beloved extremist right wing
> > media?
> >
> > The American College of Pediatricians (ACP),
> > which utilizes the totally convincing slogan
> > “Best for Children,” has issued a new
> position
> > statement claiming that respecting transgender
> > children’s identities causes them harm and
> > conservative groups are already latching onto
> it.
> >
> > If the claim sounds peculiar, it’s because
> > it’s a claim completely refuted by all
> available
> > scientific evidence. It’s also because the
> > ACP is not a legitimate medical organization;
> its
> > name is designed to be mistaken for the
> American
> > Academy of Pediatrics, which is a national
> > organization with some 60,000 members. The ACP,
> by
> > contrast, is estimated to have no more than 200
> > members, and it has been designated a hate
> > group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for
> its
> > anti-LGBT positions.

>
>
> This is so tedious.
>
> Your post is a copy & paste from a far-left wack
> site called, Think Progress. Here's the link,
> which YOU, if you were honest, would have included
> in your post.
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/03/22/3762261/p
> ediatrician-hate-group/
>
>
> RE: The American Academy of Pediatricians
>
> - Why did it take Mom Bloggers to convince the
> non-profit organization to cut its corporate
> partnership with Monsanto?
>
> http://ecowatch.com/2015/10/06/aap-cuts-ties-with-
> monsanto/
>
> - Why did the AAP suddenly reverse its position on
> mercury?
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/21/why-does-th
> e-american-academy-of-pediatrics-put-corporate-pro
> fits-ahead-of-childrens-health/
>
> AND, FYI:
> The Southern Poverty Law Center is a left-wing
> hate group. Why don't you people EVER question
> your beloved extremist left-wing media before
> latching on to hate groups?

It is funny that you criticize someone for using a left-wing source and then do the same yourself. Hypocrisy?

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR ()
Date: July 07, 2016 02:18AM

too funny Wrote:
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> It is funny that you criticize someone for using a
> left-wing source and then do the same yourself.
> Hypocrisy?


You're either very stupid or a big FAT LIAR.

You were criticized for posting material which you copied and pasted, without noting the source. Basically, you plagiarized.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Libtard lunacy ()
Date: July 07, 2016 02:24AM

enlightened" Wrote:
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> Liar copy and paste Wrote:
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> > The Southern Poverty Law Center is a left-wing
> > hate group. Why don't you people EVER question
> > your beloved extremist left-wing media before
> > latching on to hate groups?
>
> You must have a very non-standard definition of
> "hate group." Members of this group have put
> their lives on the line to help the powerless and
> disenfranchised. They are constantly subject to
> threats of violence (from real hate groups). They
> have more courage in their pinkie fingers than you
> have in your entire body.
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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: cWPdK ()
Date: July 07, 2016 08:20PM

meanwhile the kids dont really give a fuck, know your bastards who want them arrested and will take any opportunity to do so, and understand your trying to brain wash them

they don't know all the brain wash tricks a liberal union of goverment workers protecting their pay with weapons has: but when they get older they will remember what crap they did and didn't fall for, perhaps
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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: ymGpW ()
Date: July 07, 2016 08:21PM

someone told me this reminded them of "JAWS". i have no idea why.
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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Genderbender ()
Date: July 08, 2016 08:05PM

enlightened" Wrote:
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> Liar copy and paste Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Southern Poverty Law Center is a left-wing
> > hate group. Why don't you people EVER question
> > your beloved extremist left-wing media before
> > latching on to hate groups?
>
> You must have a very non-standard definition of
> "hate group." Members of this group have put
> their lives on the line to help the powerless and
> disenfranchised. They are constantly subject to
> threats of violence (from real hate groups). They
> have more courage in their pinkie fingers than you
> have in your entire body.
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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: FrankR. ()
Date: July 08, 2016 08:07PM

The SPLC and ACLU need to be abolished. CAIR too. All of these chicken shit hate groups. Trump will find a way.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: HATER in the White House ()
Date: July 09, 2016 01:51AM

FrankR. Wrote:
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> The SPLC and ACLU need to be abolished. CAIR too.
> All of these chicken shit hate groups. Trump will
> find a way.

And, Black Lives Matter, Obama's favorite hate group.

"Stand Up, Don't Shoot", the LIE that ignited this violent hate group was WHITE HOUSE APPROVED by Obama and Eric Holder, the evil lying racist pricks.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: try try again ()
Date: July 09, 2016 01:49PM

HATER in the White House Wrote:
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> FrankR. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The SPLC and ACLU need to be abolished. CAIR
> too.
> > All of these chicken shit hate groups. Trump
> will
> > find a way.
>
> And, Black Lives Matter, Obama's favorite hate
> group.
>
> "Stand Up, Don't Shoot", the LIE that ignited this
> violent hate group was WHITE HOUSE APPROVED by
> Obama and Eric Holder, the evil lying racist
> pricks.

That you could criticize anyone for "lying" is the most hilarious bit of irony. Have someone explain it to you.

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Re: “DON’T DO IT” says American College of Pediatricians TO Schools/Legislators
Posted by: Derper ()
Date: July 09, 2016 02:16PM

try try again Wrote:
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> HATER in the White House Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FrankR. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The SPLC and ACLU need to be abolished. CAIR
> > too.
> > > All of these chicken shit hate groups. Trump
> > will
> > > find a way.
> >
> > And, Black Lives Matter, Obama's favorite hate
> > group.
> >
> > "Stand Up, Don't Shoot", the LIE that ignited
> this
> > violent hate group was WHITE HOUSE APPROVED by
> > Obama and Eric Holder, the evil lying racist
> > pricks.
>
> That you could criticize anyone for "lying" is the
> most hilarious bit of irony. Have someone explain
> it to you.

Derper derpity derp. Make some sense next time.

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