http://annandaleva.blogspot.com/2014/02/hummer-road-building-viewed-as-site-for.html#more


Guess where taxpayer money is going next?

If they check for papers to prove they're in the country legally, then fine. But I'm not holding my breath on that.

Oh well...celebrate diversity!

Where?

They should be lined up and executed. Their head should be hoisted on pikes which line 236 as a warning to others.

Hummer Road building viewed as site for day laborer center
http://annandaleva.blogspot.com/2014/02/hummer-road-building-viewed-as-site-for.html#more

A Mason District task force that has been looking for a place to establish a hiring center for day laborers for the past 14 years might have found one: A local businessman, Christian Kim, has offered to partner with the task force to provide space in an office building at 7700 Hummer Road.

At this stage, it’s just a topic for discussion, said Mason Supervisor Penny Gross. Lot of issues need to be addressed, such as zoning requirements, budget, occupancy, and what kind of non-profit would operate it. “Right now it’s just conceptual,”she said.

In fact, a representative of the Della Ratta commercial management company, which is trying to find tenants to lease vacant space at the Hummer Road building, said, “there is no proposal. There is nothing to discuss.”

Nevertheless, a member of the Hummer Road Task Force, which was formed by Gross in 2000 to search for a safe place for day laborers to connect with employers, is optimistic about the prospect of locating the center at 7700 Hummer Road. That building is across the street from a 7-Eleven where many day laborers hang around waiting for people to offer them jobs. It’s also close to the Little River Shopping Center, where these workers also congregate.

Among the members of the task force are representatives of the Legal Aid Justice Center, Fairfax County Police Department, office of Braddock Supervisor John Cooke, Annandale Christian Community for Action, the Wedgewood Apartments, and the Fairfax County Department of Neighborhood and Community Services.

The task member calls the Hummer Road location “a dream come true,” saying the property won’t need to be rezoned, which would eliminate a huge barrier. The facility won’t receive government money, so other funding sources would need to be identified, such as foundations, nonprofits, corporations, or employers.

The center would be modeled on the Centreville Labor Resource Center, which opened in December 2011, and is entirely supported by grants and donations. That center has a databank of workers listing their skills and matches them employers who need people with those skills. Employers sign a contract stating they will treat workers fairly.

That’s crucial, the task force member says, because employers often take advantage of day laborers, by paying them less than what they promised, or not paying them at all, failing to provide access to drinking water, and otherwise mistreating them.

The office building at 7700 Hummer Road.
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How about funding the schools - instead of building a hut for illegals.

Our tax money is going away so the police can drive around mustangs.
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Don't we need this money for new turf on the fields?

That's a Charger. Which I suppose COULD drive around mustangs depending on the trim. Chargers suck. Most cops would rather stick with the Crown Vic. They don't break down like Chargers do. No difference in price too.

I think the police should be using these. They cost much less.
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Fairfax County Supervisor Penny Gross and then Captain Tom Ryan tried years ago to put a trailer behind the Culmore 7-11 for the exact same thing---------to give the day laborers a place to work from. The idiot Tom Ryan even got a huge trailer and it stayed in the parking lot of Mason District Station for years. This never worked out because of zoning requirements such as there would be no running water, sewer, etc. in the trailer.

It amazes me that Fairfax County continues to promote opportunities for Illegals. These Democrats just don't get it that it against the law to allow Illegals to work. Not to mention that they don't pay taxes, file tax returns, etc. This is another stupid blunder by Fairfax County Government and the Police Department.

The other reason why there are so many day laborer in Annandale can be directly attributed to then Captain Tom Ryan (who is now at a much higher level). The Hummer Road 7-11 wanted to hire off-duty police to keep the day laborers off of their property. Tom Ryan said no. So 7-11 had to hire private security which did nothing. The day laborers spread down the street along Route 236 all the way to Markham Street. Not only did 7-11 have to hire private security- but so did the gas station next to the 7-11, and the Safeway Shopping Center. Years later, the police department worked off-duty security at the Exxon gas station at 236/Markham Street, and the business complex between Hummer Road 7-11 and the McDonalds. All because Tom Ryan did not feel that it would be an issue. It has now blossomed into a mess. And now the County wants accommodate the day laborers. What a joke.

By the way, the idiot above posted a "Charger" from Prince William County Sheriff's Office..........wrong cars and it's not Fairfax County Police. What an idiot.

What part of "Sanctuary city do you numbnuts not understand? Footnote: Oprah wants all "old white people too die!"

off duty police officer Wrote:
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> Fairfax County Supervisor Penny Gross and then
> Captain Tom Ryan tried years ago to put a trailer
> behind the Culmore 7-11 for the exact same
> thing---------to give the day laborers a place to
> work from. The idiot Tom Ryan even got a huge
> trailer and it stayed in the parking lot of Mason
> District Station for years. This never worked out
> because of zoning requirements such as there would
> be no running water, sewer, etc. in the trailer.
>
> It amazes me that Fairfax County continues to
> promote opportunities for Illegals. These
> Democrats just don't get it that it against the
> law to allow Illegals to work. Not to mention
> that they don't pay taxes, file tax returns, etc.
> This is another stupid blunder by Fairfax County
> Government and the Police Department.
>
> The other reason why there are so many day laborer
> in Annandale can be directly attributed to then
> Captain Tom Ryan (who is now at a much higher
> level). The Hummer Road 7-11 wanted to hire
> off-duty police to keep the day laborers off of
> their property. Tom Ryan said no. So 7-11 had to
> hire private security which did nothing. The day
> laborers spread down the street along Route 236
> all the way to Markham Street. Not only did 7-11
> have to hire private security- but so did the gas
> station next to the 7-11, and the Safeway Shopping
> Center. Years later, the police department worked
> off-duty security at the Exxon gas station at
> 236/Markham Street, and the business complex
> between Hummer Road 7-11 and the McDonalds. All
> because Tom Ryan did not feel that it would be an
> issue. It has now blossomed into a mess. And now
> the County wants accommodate the day laborers.
> What a joke.
>
> By the way, the idiot above posted a "Charger"
> from Prince William County Sheriff's
> Office..........wrong cars and it's not Fairfax
> County Police. What an idiot.


More like "fired police officer". You thought you could get away with a staged hit and run!?


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Found this on the Fairfax County website. I got it now. Their action plan to prevent homelessness is to allow them to maintain jobs as a day laborer. Thomas Ryan is listed on the committee. But its against Federal Law.

Implementation Committee


Preventing and Ending HomelessnessThe Implementation Committee for the Plan to Prevent and End Homelessness will develop recommendations for carrying out the strategic plan to end homelessness. The 95-member group, appointed by the Board of Supervisors, represents:
• Nonprofit Organizations
• Businesses
• Health Care Providers
• Faith Communities
• Government Agencies

The committee is divided into an executive committee and three work groups focused on
• Preventing homelessness
• Increasing affordable housing options
• Delivering services to maintain stable housing

Below is a list of community members** serving on the Implementation Committee for the Plan to Prevent and End Homelessness:

Executive Committee
• Dr. Gloria Addo-Ayenso, Health Director, Fairfax County Health Department

• Mary Ann Beall, Chairman, Fairfax/Falls Church Community Services Board

• Ralph Boyd, Vice President, Community Relations, Freddie Mac Foundation

• Ron Brousseau, Member, Council on Homelessness, City of Falls Church

• Barbara Byron, Director, Fairfax County Revitalization

• Elita Christiansen, Director, Multicultural Affairs, Inova

• Michael F. Curtin, Jr., Chief Operating Officer, D.C. Central Kitchen

• Ken Disselkoen, Acting Director, Dept. of Systems Management for Human Services*

• Conrad Egan, Chairman, FCRHA

• Churchill J. Gibson IV, Executive Director & COO, National Alliance to End Homelessness

• Verdia Haywood, Deputy County Executive, Fairfax County*

• David Hunn, Executive Director, Workforce Investment Board

• Fred Karnas, Senior Director, Homelessness Initiatives, Fannie Mae Foundation*

• Michelle Krocker, Housing Consultant, (NVAHA)*

• Kae Livsey, Member, Community Council on Homelessness, City of Fairfax Human Services Commission

• Pam Michell, Executive Director, New Hope Housing*

• Pete Murphy, Chairman, Planning Commission

• Dana Paige, Director, Department of Family Services

• Rev. Ron Qualley, Lord of Life Lutheran Church

• Dave Rohrer, Chief of Police, Fairfax County Police Department

• Paula Sampson, Director, Housing & Community Development

• Rob Stalzer, Deputy County Executive, Planning and Development

• Jim Thur, Executive Director, Fairfax/Falls Church Community Services Board

• Kerrie Wilson, Executive Director, Reston Interfaith*

• Linda Wimpey, Chairman, Community Council on Homelessness

• Jim Zook, Director, Department of Planning and Zoning
* denotes that member will also serve on an additional Implementation Group

Support Services Group
• Barbara Antley, Director, Adult and Aging Services, Department of Family Services

• Louise Armitage, Director of Human Services, City of Fairfax

• Marlene Blum, Member, Community Council on Homelessness

• Jim Brigl, Executive Director, FACETS

• Peggy Cook, Director, ADS Residential Services, Fairfax/Falls Church Community Services Board

• Mike Finkle, Management Analyst, Department of Family Services

• Donna Foster, Member, Community Council on Homelessness

• Monika Gilbert, Management Analyst II, Department of Administration for Human Services, Contracts Management

• Jean Hartman, Manager, Program for Assertive Community Treatment, Fairfax/Falls Church Community Services Board

• Verdia Haywood, Deputy County Executive, Fairfax County*

• Sylisa Lambert-Woodard, President & Chief Operating Officer, Pathway Homes

• Doug Lynott, Partnership for Permanent Housing, Housing & Community Development

• Laura Martin, Director, Mondloch I Shelter, New Hope Housing

• Jewell Mikula, Executive Director, Shelter House

• Michelle Milgrim, Assistant Director, Patient Care Services, Heath Department

• Rev. Mary Katherine Morn, Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Fairfax

• Derwin Overton, Executive Director, Fairfax OAR

• Rev. Randall Prior, Rector, St. Andrews Episcopal Church*

• Kathi Sheffel, Homeless Services Coordinator, Fairfax County Public Schools

• Lynn Thomas, Director of Service Enriched Housing, Christian Relief Services

• Carol Ulrich, President, National Alliance for the Mentally Ill – Northern Virginia

• Juanita Wilder, Regional Director, Department of Systems Management for Human Services

• Kerrie Wilson, Executive Director, Reston Interfaith*
* denotes member also serves on Executive Committee

Housing Options Group
• Walter Alcorn, Commissioner-At-Large, Planning Commission

• Ron Christian, Vice-Chair, FCRHA, Lutheran Housing Services

• James Van Cooper, Director, MH Residential Services, Fairfax/Falls Church Community Services Board

• Herb Cooper-Levy, Executive Director, RPJ Housing

• Carol Erhard, Director, Housing Management Division, Housing & Community Development

• Rev. Jeri Fields, Mount Vernon Presbyterian, VIC

• Mike Finkle, Management Analyst, Department of Family Services

• Gerald Hopkins, VHDA Commissioner, AHOME & VHDA Board

• Maggie Johnston, Director of HomeAid Northern Virginia

• Fred Karnas, Senior Director, Homelessness Initiatives, Fannie Mae Foundation*

• Dean Klein, Director, Fairfax County Office to Prevent and End Homelessness
• Brian Krizek, Chief Executive Officer, Christian Relief Services

• Michelle Krocker, Housing Consultant, (NVAHA)*

• John Litzenberger, Jr., Commissioner, FCRHA

• Rodney Lusk, Planning Commissioner, Planning Commission

• Janet Maxwell, Vice President, CRA Officer, Chevy Chase Bank

• Joel McNair, Chief Executive Officer, Pathway Homes

• Pam Michell, Executive Director, New Hope Housing*

• Michael Milliner, Development Consultant, Building Partnerships

• Rob Rogers, Chief Operating Officer, Volunteers of America, Chesapeake

• Michael Scheurer, Northern Virginia Community Housing Officer, VHDA

• Fred Selden, Director, Planning Division, Department of Planning and Zoning

• Al Smuzynski, Executive Director, Wesley Housing

• Mary Stevens, Deputy Director, Housing & Community Development

• Walter Webdale, Executive Director, AHC, Inc.

• Seema Zeya, Domestic Violence Coordinator, Department of Systems Management for Human Services
* denotes member also serves on Executive Committee

Prevention Group
• Shanise Allen, Utilization Review Specialist, CSA, Department of Family Services

• Rev. Tom Berlin, Floris United Methodist Church

• John Callaghan, Development Director, Fairfax OAR

• Paul Camarca, Discharge Planning, Department of the Sherriff

• Sandy Chisholm, Community Interfaith Liaison, Department of Systems Management for Human Services

• Don DiSpirito, Member, ACCA

• Ken Disselkoen, Acting Director, Department of Systems Management for Human Services*

• Carol Erhard, Director, Housing Management Division, Housing & Community Development

• Ina Fernandez, Director, Office for Women

• Susan Folwell, Manager, Domestic Violence Grant Programs, The Women's Center

• Rosalyn Foroobar, Director of Patient Care Services, Health Department

• Kathy Froyd, Director, Children, Youth and Families, Department of Family Services

• Pat Gauthier, Executive Director, ECHO

• Wendy Gradison, Executive Director, PRS, Inc.

• Dot Groce, Manager, CSP Process & Operations, Department of Systems Management for Human Services

• Carol Jameson, Vice President, Health Access, Northern Virginia Family Services

• Allen Jensen, Member, Planning Committee to End Homelessness, Faith Communities in Action Housing Task Force

• Sharon Jones, Discharge Planner, Mental Health Services, Fairfax/Falls Church Community Services Board

• Victor Kimm, President, SHARE

• John Payne, Director, Design Division, Housing & Community Development

• Tom Ryan, Commander, Division I, Patrol Bureau, Fairfax County Police Department

• Linda Sallee, Vice President, Case Management & Infection Control, Inova

• Shannon Steene, Executive Director, Good Shepherd Housing & Family Service

• Daryl Washington, Homeless Services Manager, Mental Health Services, Fairfax/Falls Church Community Services Board

• Peyton Whiteley, Managing Attorney, Legal Services of Northern Virginia


* denotes member also serves on Executive Committee
** A representative from the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce will be appointed to the committee.

Fired officer????????? Sounds like a well informed officer. So quick to discredit. Do you work for the Obama HealthCare network "Louis Theroux"? Exactly what the machine does-------instantly discredit. Do your research dummy. All truth. Ask any veteran officer at Mason Station. You must be still one of the new guys who has the hood over your eyes.

Hence the problem. Nobody wants to enforce it in the government even though the people do. (They want the Hispanic vote?) Way to go Fairfax County.

•FAIR/Pulse, February 2013 — Poll of likely voters
•86% believe illegal immigration is a problem for the U.S.; 12% believe it is not a problem.
•53% believe that the U.S. border is not secure (16% "not at all secure"); 41% believe it is secure (6% "very secure").
•74% believe that the government is not effective at preventing illegal immigration; 21% think it is effective.
•53% believe illegal aliens harm American workers; 26% believe that illegal aliens do not harm American workers; 11% believe they have little if any effect.
•66% believe illegal aliens are a net drain on public resources; 11% believe they are a net benefit; 9% say they have little to no effect.
•69% are not confident that immigration laws would be enforced in the future if illegal aliens were given amnesty; 26% are confidence that laws would be enforced.
•37% support encouraging illegal aliens to return to their home countries by enforcing the law and cutting off benefits; 15% support deporting all illegal aliens (52% support enforcement/deportation); 36% support amnesty.


•CIS/Pulse, February 2013 - Poll of likely voters
•52% prefer to see illegal aliens return to their home countries; 33% preferred to give illegal aliens legal status.
•64% say that immigration enforcement has been "too little;" 10% say" too much;" 15% said "just right."
•71% think the illegal alien population in the U.S. was the result of a failure to enforce immigration laws; 18% think it is because the U.S. does not admit enough legal immigrants.
•70% are not confident that immigration laws would be enforced in the future if illegal aliens were given amnesty; 37% express confidence that laws would be enforced.
•53% say that they would be more likely to support a political party that favored the enforcement of immigration laws; 32% say that they would be more likely to support a political party that favored legalization.

26 members of the "Executive Committee" alone?!?! No wonder nothing ever gets done. Do they get a stipend from the county to serve on this committee?

I wonder what Mister Kim make from this? Must be angle... Korean figure some way to make money from day labor center. Number 1 businessmen Koreans... probably get cut from Korean contractor who buy illegal Mexican from Day Labor store...'


Korean Number 1

White Liberals Number 1 Dumbasses...

Mr Hung Lo Wrote:
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> I wonder what Mister Kim make from this? Must be
> angle... Korean figure some way to make money from
> day labor center. Number 1 businessmen Koreans...
> probably get cut from Korean contractor who buy
> illegal Mexican from Day Labor store...'
>
>
> Korean Number 1
>
> White Liberals Number 1 Dumbasses...


"... a representative of the Della Ratta commercial management company, which is trying to find tenants to lease vacant space at the Hummer Road building

They'll get a bunch of advocacy groups to pay over-market rates for the space on the promise of having a center.

McElweeny Wrote:
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> Don't we need this money for new turf on the
> fields?


+1, and maybe and Arlington trolley or two in there as well.

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> Our tax money is going away so the police can
> drive around mustangs.


I have never seen a 4 door charger mustang.

We need to start a race war between los hispanics and the koreans. Hopefully they will wipe each other out and we can get Annandale back on track.

I kind of like the idea of a place for day laborors to go vs. loitering around for a few blocks. Plus its one central place to find daily help.

The issue of "illegals" vs. finding help for a project are two different things. Until we live in a police state where feds show up and scoop up the illegal workers then might as well make the whole exchange (worker waiting for work, employer picking them up) as streamlined and less a burden on the neighborhood as possible.

Don't be so quick to judge. Corporate america has no problem sending plenty of tech jobs to the likes of india. But that's ok, somehow.

If the whole legal/illegal immigration issue was addressed this would be a non issue. This strikes a nerve because its out in the open.

They need one of these instead



Property values in Annandale would skyrocket if you exterminated the illegal locusts.

If the whole legal/illegal immigration issue was addressed this would be a non issue...........What a dumb comment by kevreh.

The issue is addressed. IT IS ILLEGAL FOR ILLEGALS TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY. IT IS ILLEGAL TO EMPLOY AN ILLEGAL. THAT IS THE LAW. Problem is that you have a dumbass Justice Department run by Obama that CHOSES not to enforce the law.

Hey Kevreh, what is your address. The illegals can all hang out at your house and look for work.

How do you know all of them are illegal? Anyways, if the law enforcement wants to arrest them then nothing stopping them. In the meantime, nothing stopping anyone for picking up a day laborer and paying them cash at the end of the day.

BTW, they were standing there on 236 long before Obama took office, so nice try.

Truth.
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The image above is EXACTLY why the vast majority of Americans are against it.

1 2 3 4 let's start a race war Wrote:
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> We need to start a race war between los hispanics
> and the koreans. Hopefully they will wipe each
> other out and we can get Annandale back on track.


I tried this shit back in the 60's man, It didn't work man.

Obama is a muslim Wrote:
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> Problem is
> that you have a dumbass Justice Department run by
> Obama that CHOSES not to enforce the law.

And before that you had a Justice Department run by George W Bush that chose not to enforce the law . And before that you had a Justice Department run by Clinton that chose not to enforce the law...because every time it did employers would run to the press and scream about how oppressive government was trying to screw them and the hard working immigrants they would hire.

This is the real problem. You have a large number of employers who want cheap labor who are willing to tolerate questionable working conditions, and are indifferent about whether those employees are illegal. You also have a large number of people in this country who want cheap goods and especially services, and are indifferent about whether the people providing those goods and services are here illegally. A large number of those people who made it possible, desirable even, for those illegals to be here are YOUR OWN DAMN SUPPORTERS.

Posted by: kevreh ()

Date: February 07, 2014 04:47PM


How do you know all of them are illegal? Anyways, if the law enforcement wants to arrest them then nothing stopping them. In the meantime, nothing stopping anyone for picking up a day laborer and paying them cash at the end of the day.

YOU ARE CLUELESS. GO ASK THEM SINCE YOU WONT BELIEVE ANYTHING POSTED HERE. AS YOU WALK UP TO THEM, YELL "ICE" (IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT). WATCH THEM RUN LIKE COCKROACHES.

LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN NOT ARREST THEM BECAUSE IT IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN ONLY ENFORCE STATE AND LOCAL LAWS. ANY IDIOT KNOWS THAT, BUT YOU DONT. SO KEVREH, YOU ARE BELOW AN IDIOT.

WHEN THOSE DAY LABORERS GET PAID AT THE END OF THE DAY, WALK UP TO THEM AND YELL "IRS". THEN ONCE AGAIN, WATCH THEM RUN LIKE COCKROACHES.

POINT MADE.........

They really need to let more of them into the country. Who's going to clean my pool, or mow my lawn?

Melinda Ardinger Wrote:
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> They really need to let more of them into the
> country. Who's going to clean my pool, or mow my
> lawn?


We really do need these immigrants as much as they need us. The labor center is a great idea and it looks like they may be able to put it in place without spending any tax dollars. I would be willing to donate some cash to the cause because it will benefit everyone.

Those illegal day laborer shave been staging at that 7-11 for well over twenty years. ICE would have a great fishing day if they would simply do their job.

This thread is ridiculous. I'm a Republican, but what the fuck is so bad about trying to encourage people who want to work? These people aren't here freeloading for the most part. They want to earn their freaking keep, just like any good American. Help them, respect them. Unless your family is Cherokee or came over with a silver spoon up its ass, our ancestors looked a lot like that haggard group of people looking for work. Have a little respect.

No sense of history Wrote:
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> This thread is ridiculous. I'm a Republican, but
> what the fuck is so bad about trying to encourage
> people who want to work? These people aren't here
> freeloading for the most part. They want to earn
> their freaking keep, just like any good American.
> Help them, respect them. Unless your family is
> Cherokee or came over with a silver spoon up its
> ass, our ancestors looked a lot like that haggard
> group of people looking for work. Have a little
> respect.


Actually they are here freeloading. They receive multiple forms of public assistance, their kids are the primary reason for increasing public school costs, they are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, they tend to work under the table and do not pay their "fair share" of taxes, and a large percentage of the income they do generate is sent out of the country.

Have a little respect for the people who are here legally and have to support them and who are affected by their (illegal) presence.

No sense of history Wrote:
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> This thread is ridiculous. I'm a Republican, but
> what the fuck is so bad about trying to encourage
> people who want to work? These people aren't here
> freeloading for the most part. They want to earn
> their freaking keep, just like any good American.
> Help them, respect them. Unless your family is
> Cherokee or came over with a silver spoon up its
> ass, our ancestors looked a lot like that haggard
> group of people looking for work. Have a little
> respect.


Fuck off Liberal. You like them? You can pay for them. They are nothing but Locust.

>Actually they are here freeloading. They receive multiple forms of public assistance, their kids are the primary reason for increasing public school costs, they are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime, they tend to work under the table and do not pay their "fair share" of taxes, and a large percentage of the income they do generate is sent out of the country.

True. I say just leave them be, by rights they are illegal and should not be here, If they commit any crimes they do need to go. The fact they are here raises apt rents up as they crowd in a unit and can pay the cost. No wonder American "kids" are 26 and still living at home the ilegals raise the cost of housing and health care, its nothing but a pityfull effort by Democrats to get votes in the future and it will come back to bite their childerens and ever after issues asses off. And so many are too stupid to see it.

What part of fucking ILLEGAL do people not understand? Not only that, those fucking locust are just vile. I have seen the locust piss and shit on the sides of the 7-11's. Nothing but fucking Locust.

These are the same folks who tore down the US flag at the Mcdonalds and won't allow it to be put back up.

Ain't no fortunate Son Wrote:
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> Fuck off Liberal. You like them? You can pay for
> them. They are nothing but Locust.

What makes you think he is a liberal? Not only does he say he's a Republican, he also is spouting the rhetoric that many employers use to justify hiring these people.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Ain't no fortunate Son Wrote:
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> > Fuck off Liberal. You like them? You can pay
> for
> > them. They are nothing but Locust.
>
> What makes you think he is a liberal? Not only
> does he say he's a Republican, he also is spouting
> the rhetoric that many employers use to justify
> hiring these people.

Fuck you and fuck "these people." come on man, they are nothing but a drain on society.

Your fat White American Mc Happy meal swallowing lard ass NEEDS someone to do the things you are too lazy to do yourself. No wonder this area is so fat.

Melinda Ardinger Wrote:
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> They really need to let more of them into the
> country. Who's going to clean my pool, or mow my
> lawn?

No sense of history Wrote:
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> This thread is ridiculous. I'm a Republican, but
> what the fuck is so bad about trying to encourage
> people who want to work? These people aren't here
> freeloading for the most part. They want to earn
> their freaking keep, just like any good American.
> Help them, respect them. Unless your family is
> Cherokee or came over with a silver spoon up its
> ass, our ancestors looked a lot like that haggard
> group of people looking for work. Have a little
> respect.


You are exactly right. This country was founded by illegal aliens.

I always get a laugh out of these ignorant Americans who keep using the quote "What part of illegal don't you understand?". Yes the laws are in place to deport these people but nobody is going to enforce those laws except in extreme cases. The fact of the matter is that our economy depends on these hardworking immigrants.
During our last home building boom the undocumented American workforce made lots of Americans a ton of money. Subcontractors employees were using them left and right and most of the builders looked the other way because they knew the undocumented American workforce was keeping the production schedule ahead of schedule.
These undocumented Americans pay sales tax and they rent housing. In most cases it would cost this country quite a bit more if they were legal citizens that lived to an age where they could collect Medicare and Social Security. We are all very lucky that they chose our country to immigrate to. Next time you see one of these people at 7-11 tell them " Gracias Amigo " and slip them 5 or 10 bucks.

kounty man Wrote:
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> You are exactly right. This country was founded by
> illegal aliens.
>
> I always get a laugh out of these ignorant
> Americans who keep using the quote "What part of
> illegal don't you understand?". Yes the laws are
> in place to deport these people but nobody is
> going to enforce those laws except in extreme
> cases. The fact of the matter is that our economy
> depends on these hardworking immigrants.
> During our last home building boom the
> undocumented American workforce made lots of
> Americans a ton of money. Subcontractors employees
> were using them left and right and most of the
> builders looked the other way because they knew
> the undocumented American workforce was keeping
> the production schedule ahead of schedule.
> These undocumented Americans pay sales tax and
> they rent housing. In most cases it would cost
> this country quite a bit more if they were legal
> citizens that lived to an age where they could
> collect Medicare and Social Security. We are all
> very lucky that they chose our country to
> immigrate to. Next time you see one of these
> people at 7-11 tell them " Gracias Amigo " and
> slip them 5 or 10 bucks.

Actually you're terrible at math. There are a drain on the economy because they are not part of the tax system. This is why hospitals are closing because they had no health care and were using the ER instead of regular doctors. Sales tax is meaningless asshole, there are other more significant taxes that handle road repair and services. By not having them in the tax system it hurts them as well, it condemns them to being 2nd or 3rd class workers outside of the system, regulated to cleaning toilets, mowing lawns, and menial jobs.

PS: This country wasn't founded on illegal immigration, it was conquered. Learn your fucking history or go back to the shit hole you helped to fuck up before coming here. Illegal Immigrants are cowards. Too stupid and too afraid to fix the problems in their own native countries.

kounty man Wrote:
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> I always get a laugh out of these ignorant
> Americans who keep using the quote "What part of
> illegal don't you understand?". Yes the laws are
> in place to deport these people but nobody is
> going to enforce those laws except in extreme
> cases.

I love how foreigners come to OUR country, because their countries ABSOLUTELY SUCK. Don't worry, we're going to elect Republicans in the next election and throw your asses out. You're just locusts feeding off us.

Actually... Wrote:
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> kounty man Wrote:
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> > You are exactly right. This country was founded
> by
> > illegal aliens.
> >
> > I always get a laugh out of these ignorant
> > Americans who keep using the quote "What part
> of
> > illegal don't you understand?". Yes the laws
> are
> > in place to deport these people but nobody is
> > going to enforce those laws except in extreme
> > cases. The fact of the matter is that our
> economy
> > depends on these hardworking immigrants.
> > During our last home building boom the
> > undocumented American workforce made lots of
> > Americans a ton of money. Subcontractors
> employees
> > were using them left and right and most of the
> > builders looked the other way because they knew
> > the undocumented American workforce was keeping
> > the production schedule ahead of schedule.
> > These undocumented Americans pay sales tax and
> > they rent housing. In most cases it would cost
> > this country quite a bit more if they were
> legal
> > citizens that lived to an age where they could
> > collect Medicare and Social Security. We are
> all
> > very lucky that they chose our country to
> > immigrate to. Next time you see one of these
> > people at 7-11 tell them " Gracias Amigo " and
> > slip them 5 or 10 bucks.
>
> Actually you're terrible at math. There are a
> drain on the economy because they are not part of
> the tax system. This is why hospitals are closing
> because they had no health care and were using the
> ER instead of regular doctors. Sales tax is
> meaningless asshole, there are other more
> significant taxes that handle road repair and
> services. By not having them in the tax system it
> hurts them as well, it condemns them to being 2nd
> or 3rd class workers outside of the system,
> regulated to cleaning toilets, mowing lawns, and
> menial jobs.
>
> PS: This country wasn't founded on illegal
> immigration, it was conquered. Learn your fucking
> history or go back to the shit hole you helped to
> fuck up before coming here. Illegal Immigrants are
> cowards. Too stupid and too afraid to fix the
> problems in their own native countries.


Well if you believe that bullshit why don't you demand that your lawmakers enforce the laws that are already on the books and start deporting all these "illegals". We both know that is never going to happen. If you really believe that these hardworking, honest people are a threat to our country you have the right as a citizen to make a citizens arrest and petition the district attorney to prosecute them. We know that is never going to happen as well because you don't have the balls to do it and because the educated and intelligent citizens of this country understand that we desperately need these immigrants.

kounty man Wrote:
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> Actually... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > kounty man Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You are exactly right. This country was
> founded
> > by
> > > illegal aliens.
> > >
> > > I always get a laugh out of these ignorant
> > > Americans who keep using the quote "What part
> > of
> > > illegal don't you understand?". Yes the laws
> > are
> > > in place to deport these people but nobody is
> > > going to enforce those laws except in extreme
> > > cases. The fact of the matter is that our
> > economy
> > > depends on these hardworking immigrants.
> > > During our last home building boom the
> > > undocumented American workforce made lots of
> > > Americans a ton of money. Subcontractors
> > employees
> > > were using them left and right and most of
> the
> > > builders looked the other way because they
> knew
> > > the undocumented American workforce was
> keeping
> > > the production schedule ahead of schedule.
> > > These undocumented Americans pay sales tax
> and
> > > they rent housing. In most cases it would
> cost
> > > this country quite a bit more if they were
> > legal
> > > citizens that lived to an age where they
> could
> > > collect Medicare and Social Security. We are
> > all
> > > very lucky that they chose our country to
> > > immigrate to. Next time you see one of these
> > > people at 7-11 tell them " Gracias Amigo "
> and
> > > slip them 5 or 10 bucks.
> >
> > Actually you're terrible at math. There are a
> > drain on the economy because they are not part
> of
> > the tax system. This is why hospitals are
> closing
> > because they had no health care and were using
> the
> > ER instead of regular doctors. Sales tax is
> > meaningless asshole, there are other more
> > significant taxes that handle road repair and
> > services. By not having them in the tax system
> it
> > hurts them as well, it condemns them to being
> 2nd
> > or 3rd class workers outside of the system,
> > regulated to cleaning toilets, mowing lawns,
> and
> > menial jobs.
> >
> > PS: This country wasn't founded on illegal
> > immigration, it was conquered. Learn your
> fucking
> > history or go back to the shit hole you helped
> to
> > fuck up before coming here. Illegal Immigrants
> are
> > cowards. Too stupid and too afraid to fix the
> > problems in their own native countries.
>
>
> Well if you believe that bullshit why don't you
> demand that your lawmakers enforce the laws that
> are already on the books and start deporting all
> these "illegals". We both know that is never going
> to happen. If you really believe that these
> hardworking, honest people are a threat to our
> country you have the right as a citizen to make a
> citizens arrest and petition the district attorney
> to prosecute them. We know that is never going to
> happen as well because you don't have the balls to
> do it and because the educated and intelligent
> citizens of this country understand that we
> desperately need these immigrants.

"Honest" people do not break the law.

And last time I heard we had a system that is supposed to regulate immigration. While you might not think that is important, it very much is. Illegal Immigration creates an imbalance and all services are affected. By having the law look the other way, a relatively small problem has ballooned into a large problem.

Yes fellow Democrats a perfect idea, Have all the illegal's come to one place to obtain day labor, This way we can see the gringos who are picking them up and working them Illegaly and place charges against them but not the illegals.


And thats what people will think and this idea of a central place to come to is bullshit. No one will want to pick up workers there , it will become another hole for money to flow thru.

No amesty, No immigration bill needed.Because

People who are illegal become legal by becoming a parent of a US Citizen OR
They can put in papers for a proper working Visa just like anyone else and in time it will come, OR they stay where they are, OR they go home

These people should be back in their own countries making things better rather
then coming here , When there flying their flags on their cars or their flag stickers it shows they have no alligence to the USA. Get them out of here.They come into police contact send them home. They keep themselves out of trouble leave them alone.

Central Surveillance System Wrote:
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> Yes fellow Democrats a perfect idea, Have all the
> illegal's come to one place to obtain day labor,
> This way we can see the gringos who are picking
> them up and working them Illegaly and place
> charges against them but not the illegals.
>
>
> And thats what people will think and this idea of
> a central place to come to is bullshit. No one
> will want to pick up workers there , it will
> become another hole for money to flow thru.
>
> No amesty, No immigration bill needed.Because
>
> People who are illegal become legal by becoming a
> parent of a US Citizen OR
> They can put in papers for a proper working Visa
> just like anyone else and in time it will come, OR
> they stay where they are, OR they go home
>
> These people should be back in their own countries
> making things better rather
> then coming here , When there flying their flags
> on their cars or their flag stickers it shows they
> have no alligence to the USA. Get them out of
> here.They come into police contact send them home.
> They keep themselves out of trouble leave them
> alone.

This is another good point. Immigration to the United States also includes becoming a loyal citizen. These people (although they are Hardworking) are here for the jobs, better education, etc. They're not here to become contributing citizens, they're here to suck Uncle Sam's teat dry. Hence the reason we call them "Locusts". Just like locusts they swarm in and eat all the food and then move on. In a word...Parasites!
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Central Surveillance System Wrote:
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> Yes fellow Democrats a perfect idea, Have all the
> illegal's come to one place to obtain day labor,
> This way we can see the gringos who are picking
> them up and working them Illegaly and place
> charges against them but not the illegals.
>
>
> And thats what people will think and this idea of
> a central place to come to is bullshit. No one
> will want to pick up workers there , it will
> become another hole for money to flow thru.
>
> No amesty, No immigration bill needed.Because
>
> People who are illegal become legal by becoming a
> parent of a US Citizen OR
> They can put in papers for a proper working Visa
> just like anyone else and in time it will come, OR
> they stay where they are, OR they go home
>
> These people should be back in their own countries
> making things better rather
> then coming here , When there flying their flags
> on their cars or their flag stickers it shows they
> have no alligence to the USA. Get them out of
> here.They come into police contact send them home.
> They keep themselves out of trouble leave them
> alone.


You are missing the whole point. If it were even possible to round up all the illegals and send them home in say, a years time it would break the back of the American economy and send us into a full blown depression. We desperately need those people which is EXACTLY why nobody is going to deport more than 10% of them. Hate them all you want but you and your family need them to survive.

right over your head Wrote:
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> You are missing the whole point. If it were even
> possible to round up all the illegals and send
> them home in say, a years time it would break the
> back of the American economy and send us into a
> full blown depression. We desperately need those
> people which is EXACTLY why nobody is going to
> deport more than 10% of them. Hate them all you
> want but you and your family need them to survive.


Bullshit!! We don't "need those people." Just what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand? Fuck Face.

Too stupid and too afraid to fix their problems in their native countries? Um have you fixed the problems in this country??? WHY do you think that when white people get old and gray they HAVE to leave this country and retire in Central or south america huh? this country has as much economic problems as the latin american countries do. Everything is nickel and dimed here.

It does not condemn them to menial jobs idiot. I know a landscaping/construction company owner from el salvador who started his business that is earning millions now but he started as an illegal. Also they seek out charity based health care that is available at churches in the area they don't go to the ER unless an emergency but that goes for ANYone.

Actually... Wrote:
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> kounty man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are exactly right. This country was founded
> by
> > illegal aliens.
> >
> > I always get a laugh out of these ignorant
> > Americans who keep using the quote "What part
> of
> > illegal don't you understand?". Yes the laws
> are
> > in place to deport these people but nobody is
> > going to enforce those laws except in extreme
> > cases. The fact of the matter is that our
> economy
> > depends on these hardworking immigrants.
> > During our last home building boom the
> > undocumented American workforce made lots of
> > Americans a ton of money. Subcontractors
> employees
> > were using them left and right and most of the
> > builders looked the other way because they knew
> > the undocumented American workforce was keeping
> > the production schedule ahead of schedule.
> > These undocumented Americans pay sales tax and
> > they rent housing. In most cases it would cost
> > this country quite a bit more if they were
> legal
> > citizens that lived to an age where they could
> > collect Medicare and Social Security. We are
> all
> > very lucky that they chose our country to
> > immigrate to. Next time you see one of these
> > people at 7-11 tell them " Gracias Amigo " and
> > slip them 5 or 10 bucks.
>
> Actually you're terrible at math. There are a
> drain on the economy because they are not part of
> the tax system. This is why hospitals are closing
> because they had no health care and were using the
> ER instead of regular doctors. Sales tax is
> meaningless asshole, there are other more
> significant taxes that handle road repair and
> services. By not having them in the tax system it
> hurts them as well, it condemns them to being 2nd
> or 3rd class workers outside of the system,
> regulated to cleaning toilets, mowing lawns, and
> menial jobs.
>
> PS: This country wasn't founded on illegal
> immigration, it was conquered. Learn your fucking
> history or go back to the shit hole you helped to
> fuck up before coming here. Illegal Immigrants are
> cowards. Too stupid and too afraid to fix the
> problems in their own native countries.

uranidiot Wrote:
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I
> know a landscaping/construction company owner from
> el salvador who started his business that is
> earning millions now but he started as an illegal.
>

His Landscaping/construction company should be seized by the Gov't, All money should be confiscated and deport his Illegal ass back to El Salvador. He broke the fucking Law!

uranidiot Wrote:
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> Too stupid and too afraid to fix their problems in
> their native countries? Um have you fixed the
> problems in this country??? WHY do you think that
> when white people get old and gray they HAVE to
> leave this country and retire in Central or south
> america huh? this country has as much economic
> problems as the latin american countries do.
> Everything is nickel and dimed here.

Good point. Illegal immigration needs to be fixed and why do you think we have such economic problems? Illegals draining us or in case you haven't noticed the hospitals going under because they can't or don't pay their bills. Why do you think our economic problems mirror those of Latin American countries? Because they're fucking up those countries. Why do you think they come to ours?
BECAUSE THEY ARE LOCUSTS.

uranidiot misses the point Wrote:
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> BECAUSE THEY ARE LOCUSTS.


AMEN!

They are here because in one way or another there's a demand. If there was no work they would leave.

They pay local taxes and fees just like we do. **IF** we had some type of imigration reform then they would also be in the system and pay fed and state taxes, have to get healthcare (or pay a penalty), etc. It is the neurotic GOP standing in the way of imigration reform.

IF they became (or where on the path to becoming) citizens then they would have a reason to be more patriotic, vs. being in this wierd non-existance.

The ones standing outside in Annandale, waiting for work, when its a crappy cold and or rainy day are not freeloaders.

uranidiot Wrote:
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>
> It does not condemn them to menial jobs idiot. I
> know a landscaping/construction company owner from
> el salvador who started his business that is
> earning millions now but he started as an illegal.


Yeah, he made his money by undercutting other trade businesses using low-cost illegal labor and not paying for licenses, insurance, taxes, etc., to the point that legit businesses couldn't compete. That's why there are a trivial few left. All he did was displace others, as illegals continue to displace other workers and drive down wages especially at the lower end. It's not that these are jobs that Americans can't do, plenty of Americans did them. They've just been pushed out now and we're forced to support them as well.

kevreh Wrote:
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> The ones standing outside in Annandale, waiting
> for work, when its a crappy cold and or rainy day
> are not freeloaders.


You're right, They are ILLEGAL Locust! I can't wait to see those illegal Filthy cock roaches eradicated.

JT Wrote:
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> http://annandaleva.blogspot.com/2014/02/hummer-roa
> d-building-viewed-as-site-for.html#more
>
>
> Guess where taxpayer money is going next?


What this issue really comes down to is people (both sides of the aisles) looking for a way to make money.

The money is used for:
Food for self & family member(s)
Rent for self & family member(s)
Bills for self & family member(s)
Medicine for self & family member(s)
Utilities for self & family member(s)
Entertainment for self & family member(s)
Obamacare for self & family member(s)
Clothes for self & family member(s)
Automobile for self & family member(s)
Gasoline for self & family member(s)
Knapsack for self & family member(s)
Cable for self & family member(s)


Considering that, I think this is the best thing we can do for America and her sisters.

Nothing wrong there Wrote:
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>
> What this issue really comes down to is people
> (both sides of the aisles) looking for a way to
> make money.
>
> The money is used for:
> Food for self & family member(s)
> Rent for self & family member(s)
> Bills for self & family member(s)
> Medicine for self & family member(s)
> Utilities for self & family member(s)
> Entertainment for self & family member(s)
> Obamacare for self & family member(s)
> Clothes for self & family member(s)
> Automobile for self & family member(s)
> Gasoline for self & family member(s)
> Knapsack for self & family member(s)
> Cable for self & family member(s)
>
>
> Considering that, I think this is the best thing
> we can do for America and her sisters.


Fuck em, I see maria with 3 kids, not working and pedro has a day labor job. Do you know how much it cost to raise 1 kid in this area, let alone 3? How do you think that happens? Those fucking Illegal Locust need to go!

right over your head Wrote:
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> You are missing the whole point. If it were even
> possible to round up all the illegals and send
> them home in say, a years time it would break the
> back of the American economy and send us into a
> full blown depression. We desperately need those
> people which is EXACTLY why nobody is going to
> deport more than 10% of them. Hate them all you
> want but you and your family need them to survive.

There is nothing necessary to this country that illegals do in this country that could not be done by citizens or legal resident. The problem is that it wouldn't be done as inexpensively or as conveniently as it is currently being done by illegals.

"(Reuters) - Swiss voters on Sunday narrowly backed proposals to reintroduce immigration quotas with the European Union, Swiss television reported - a result that calls into question bilateral accords with the EU and could irk multinational companies."

Note the same types of limits also have been or are in the process of being imposed on immigration from outside of the EU in various EU countries, UK, Australia, etc.

You are upset because you have to push one button for English. You are pathetic. I hope that is not what you tell your great grandparents. I am sure that they are very disappointed in you if you do not know spanish. Spanish should the 1st language and english second in your household. And you can still be extremely educated being fluent in spanish. So because YOU say that spanish should be my first language then it should be? Who the F**K are you? English should be EVERYONE'S first language period end of story. When was the last time you went to apply for a job and the whole interview was in spanish? I'm not talking about picking cabbage. I'm talking about a PROFESSIONAL job! I know what your answer will be and it will be that knowing 2 languages helps but that's not the question. If you had an education you would know that to be successful in business you need to know ENGLISH! Go apply for a corporate job and only speak spanish. LMFAO! They will hand you a mop and tell you to get to mopping.
Your statement "And you can still be extremely educated being fluent in spanish." is stupid because I NEVER said anything about not being educated equals not knowing spanish. Knowing both is fine but this is AMERICA and we speak English here. If YOU want government documents in spanish move the fuck to mexico or South America!
English is the language of the WORLD! Airline pilots from all countries have to know ENGLISH. It's mandatory. Do you think that the also need to know spanish? LOL!!
You're a jackass who just got your ass handed to you. You're welcome!:
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All the hate aside, when I go to Mexico or anywhere in South America, I have to speak Spanish, because that is their language in the those countries. Sure they have some people that speak English in the major cities, but Spanish is their language. So why is everyone so upset that English is the primary language of the United States? The answer is, the Spanish speaking people have not been assimilated into the culture, which is the point of immigration. If I move to another country to work and become a citizen, then I am expected to learn the language, the laws, etc. In this case, some are here for the jobs to send the money home, to make a better life for themselves, etc. I don't see the same kind of desire to be part of this culture that I see from other people from other countries coming here. Am I wrong?

You are under the assumption that these Illegal locust give a shit. Do you really think these locust want to become a citizen? why would they want that? they get away with more shit NOT being a citizen..Fucking Locust.

Your favorite minority the ASIANS are doing much more harm than that to the american economy. Latinos didn't come from a war torn or impoverished country to sit on their ass and pay someone to mow their law or do their gardening for them or clean their room. EXCUSE ME but do you know the person i am talking about? Why do you talk like you know him? Cause you do not. GUESS WHAT? LEGIT BUSINESSES RUN BY WHOLESOME AMERICANS USE THOSE ILLEGAL TACTICS ALL THE TIME AND U KNOW WHAT.. THEY NEVER GET CAUGHT! I ran into more WHITE AMERICAN OWNED businesses that were scams than latino or minority owned ones. Those White americans are clever like asians will use a bunch of tactics to bend the law and get away with murder. YEt does that make it okay because they are legal in this country? I know of one latino guy and needing to eat and have a roof over his head took on working for a white guy who owned a construction company he was up on the roof and broke his back can't walk now. Tried to take the white guy to court the white guy paid off witnesses who were to testify against him and got away with murder. Happened in ffx county too and how is that ethical of a legal white american huh?

urclueless Wrote:
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> uranidiot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > It does not condemn them to menial jobs idiot.
> I
> > know a landscaping/construction company owner
> from
> > el salvador who started his business that is
> > earning millions now but he started as an
> illegal.
>
>
> Yeah, he made his money by undercutting other
> trade businesses using low-cost illegal labor and
> not paying for licenses, insurance, taxes, etc.,
> to the point that legit businesses couldn't
> compete. That's why there are a trivial few left.
> All he did was displace others, as illegals
> continue to displace other workers and drive down
> wages especially at the lower end. It's not that
> these are jobs that Americans can't do, plenty of
> Americans did them. They've just been pushed out
> now and we're forced to support them as well.

Let's Clarify Wrote:
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> All the hate aside, when I go to Mexico or
> anywhere in South America, I have to speak
> Spanish, because that is their language in the
> those countries. Sure they have some people that
> speak English in the major cities, but Spanish is
> their language. So why is everyone so upset that
> English is the primary language of the United
> States? The answer is, the Spanish speaking people
> have not been assimilated into the culture, which
> is the point of immigration. If I move to another
> country to work and become a citizen, then I am
> expected to learn the language, the laws, etc. In
> this case, some are here for the jobs to send the
> money home, to make a better life for themselves,
> etc. I don't see the same kind of desire to be
> part of this culture that I see from other people
> from other countries coming here. Am I wrong?


Have you spent any time in Europe? People that have access to a reasonable amount of education there speak three or four languages. Here in the USA only the highly educated citizens are multi lingual. Americans have become very lazy and ignorant over the last few decades. The longer we try to reject the undocumented Americans the worse things are going to get. You can thank Republicans for that shit!

Kon Tractor Wrote:
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> try to reject the undocumented Americans the worse
> things are going to get.


Come on man, they are not "undocumented Americans." They are Illegal spics.

WELL the reason is because..........

THE US HAS NO CULTURE!!!

That is why most minorities which include hispanics, indians, middle easterns, and africans hold on to what culture they have. Most asians are excluded from this as they can become white washed. Holding on to their culture is a good thing because the cold, unforgiving, racist and hostile US culture is not a good way of life or beliefs. Sometimes one's own culture is better.

Let's Clarify Wrote:
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> All the hate aside, when I go to Mexico or
> anywhere in South America, I have to speak
> Spanish, because that is their language in the
> those countries. Sure they have some people that
> speak English in the major cities, but Spanish is
> their language. So why is everyone so upset that
> English is the primary language of the United
> States? The answer is, the Spanish speaking people
> have not been assimilated into the culture, which
> is the point of immigration. If I move to another
> country to work and become a citizen, then I am
> expected to learn the language, the laws, etc. In
> this case, some are here for the jobs to send the
> money home, to make a better life for themselves,
> etc. I don't see the same kind of desire to be
> part of this culture that I see from other people
> from other countries coming here. Am I wrong?

The US does not have a real culture.. basically it's a multitude of different cultures from around the world. Every White and black american person in ffx county is mixed with everything from black white native american. If they can identify with one culture then that could be their culture

OH PLEASE Wrote:
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> Your favorite minority the ASIANS are doing much
> more harm than that to the american economy.
> Latinos didn't come from a war torn or
> impoverished country to sit on their ass and pay
> someone to mow their law or do their gardening for
> them or clean their room. EXCUSE ME but do you
> know the person i am talking about? Why do you
> talk like you know him? Cause you do not. GUESS
> WHAT? LEGIT BUSINESSES RUN BY WHOLESOME AMERICANS
> USE THOSE ILLEGAL TACTICS ALL THE TIME AND U KNOW
> WHAT.. THEY NEVER GET CAUGHT! I ran into more
> WHITE AMERICAN OWNED businesses that were scams
> than latino or minority owned ones. Those White
> americans are clever like asians will use a bunch
> of tactics to bend the law and get away with
> murder. YEt does that make it okay because they
> are legal in this country? I know of one latino
> guy and needing to eat and have a roof over his
> head took on working for a white guy who owned a
> construction company he was up on the roof and
> broke his back can't walk now. Tried to take the
> white guy to court the white guy paid off
> witnesses who were to testify against him and got
> away with murder. Happened in ffx county too and
> how is that ethical of a legal white american
> huh?


Even though your story, like the rest here, is made up bullshit, that's among the many reasons why you don't want to have illegal, unlicensed, uninsured people whether Asian or whatever working in such jobs. And people forced to operate using them in order to be competitive.

Umm did someone put a gun to their head and force them to hire illegal aliens? You sure are lenient on white people who are legal yet break the law anyway. And nope not made up but the stuff coming out of your mouth sounds like its coming out of your ass. The only thing I see here is that legal americans are driven by greed in a cold and clueless society.
urclueless Wrote:
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> OH PLEASE Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Your favorite minority the ASIANS are doing
> much
> > more harm than that to the american economy.
> > Latinos didn't come from a war torn or
> > impoverished country to sit on their ass and
> pay
> > someone to mow their law or do their gardening
> for
> > them or clean their room. EXCUSE ME but do you
> > know the person i am talking about? Why do you
> > talk like you know him? Cause you do not. GUESS
> > WHAT? LEGIT BUSINESSES RUN BY WHOLESOME
> AMERICANS
> > USE THOSE ILLEGAL TACTICS ALL THE TIME AND U
> KNOW
> > WHAT.. THEY NEVER GET CAUGHT! I ran into more
> > WHITE AMERICAN OWNED businesses that were scams
> > than latino or minority owned ones. Those White
> > americans are clever like asians will use a
> bunch
> > of tactics to bend the law and get away with
> > murder. YEt does that make it okay because they
> > are legal in this country? I know of one latino
> > guy and needing to eat and have a roof over his
> > head took on working for a white guy who owned
> a
> > construction company he was up on the roof and
> > broke his back can't walk now. Tried to take
> the
> > white guy to court the white guy paid off
> > witnesses who were to testify against him and
> got
> > away with murder. Happened in ffx county too
> and
> > how is that ethical of a legal white american
> > huh?
>
>
> Even though your story, like the rest here, is
> made up bullshit, that's among the many reasons
> why you don't want to have illegal, unlicensed,
> uninsured people whether Asian or whatever working
> in such jobs. And people forced to operate using
> them in order to be competitive.

Hey amigos, show up at ravenswoth 711 manana at 6:00 am for work. I will pay you 10 bucks per hour for roofing job. Bring hard hat and work boots. Adios

I stopped by the 7-11 on elden, and Alabama ave today in herndon
. Why do our Locust friends have to piss and shit on the side of the building? The place smelled like a sewer.
Why do they do this?

Why don't they just use the white house?

forced? Wrote:
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> Umm did someone put a gun to their head and force
> them to hire illegal aliens? You sure are lenient
> on white people who are legal yet break the law
> anyway. And nope not made up but the stuff coming
> out of your mouth sounds like its coming out of
> your ass. The only thing I see here is that legal
> americans are driven by greed in a cold and
> clueless society.


Effectively, yes, they did. Otherwise, they can't compete. If they can't compete, then they don't have jobs and/or aren't in business. Which is why they do and why there are very, very few Americans left working in the trades versus it being a case of jobs people just don't want to do.

I'm not lenient on anyone. I never excluded anyone and it applies to all who do so. You're the one assuming that I have some favorite minority and all of the rest of the bs that you pulled out of your own ass including your made up attempts at sympathy stories.

More Info Wrote:
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> The center would be modeled on the Centreville
> Labor Resource Center, which opened in December
> 2011, and is entirely supported by grants and
> donations. That center has a databank of workers
> listing their skills and matches them employers
> who need people with those skills. Employers sign
> a contract stating they will treat workers
> fairly.

The Centreville Labor Resource Center has completely and totally failed in getting the day laborers off the street and into their system. There are now dozens of men lining the streets around and the grounds of the Centreville Library every day. They are not using the CLRC.

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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>
> The Centreville Labor Resource Center has
> completely and totally failed in getting the day
> laborers off the street and into their system.
> There are now dozens of men lining the streets
> around and the grounds of the Centreville Library
> every day. They are not using the CLRC.


That place is going to start smelling like a sewer. Trust me, I have seen this happen before. But hey, We should welcome them with open arms! nothing wrong with being here Illegally, and pissing shitting anywhere you please.
We need to set up a labor resource center right in the middle of the wealthy white gated community.
See what happens then.

One way street Wrote:
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> newgatedenizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > The Centreville Labor Resource Center has
> > completely and totally failed in getting the
> day
> > laborers off the street and into their system.
> > There are now dozens of men lining the streets
> > around and the grounds of the Centreville
> Library
> > every day. They are not using the CLRC.
>
>
> That place is going to start smelling like a
> sewer. Trust me, I have seen this happen before.
> But hey, We should welcome them with open arms!
> nothing wrong with being here Illegally, and
> pissing shitting anywhere you please.
> We need to set up a labor resource center right in
> the middle of the wealthy white gated community.
> See what happens then.


Exactly.

Put one at the main admin building at the county government complex.

Another at Tysons or downtown McLean.

South county in Clifton or Mason Neck.

If they can't compete and have to resort to illegal hires which they knowingly hire (chipotle) should they even compete? I doubt they aren't making enough money that they can afford to STAY in business and cannot afford to pay the workers. If you believe that BS then you are as dumb and clueless as the rest of the people posting on this board and blaming illegals for their problems and YES you are lenient. You are excusing the american (let's be real the only american shade that is considered american is WHITE on this board) crimes and making up excuses for them.
urclueless Wrote:
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> forced? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Umm did someone put a gun to their head and
> force
> > them to hire illegal aliens? You sure are
> lenient
> > on white people who are legal yet break the law
> > anyway. And nope not made up but the stuff
> coming
> > out of your mouth sounds like its coming out of
> > your ass. The only thing I see here is that
> legal
> > americans are driven by greed in a cold and
> > clueless society.
>
>
> Effectively, yes, they did. Otherwise, they can't
> compete. If they can't compete, then they don't
> have jobs and/or aren't in business. Which is why
> they do and why there are very, very few Americans
> left working in the trades versus it being a case
> of jobs people just don't want to do.
>
> I'm not lenient on anyone. I never excluded
> anyone and it applies to all who do so. You're
> the one assuming that I have some favorite
> minority and all of the rest of the bs that you
> pulled out of your own ass including your made up
> attempts at sympathy stories.

Hey kevreh, what Nationality are you. Let me guess..............

uranidiot Wrote:
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> If they can't compete and have to resort to
> illegal hires which they knowingly hire (chipotle)
> should they even compete? I doubt they aren't
> making enough money that they can afford to STAY
> in business and cannot afford to pay the workers.
> If you believe that BS then you are as dumb and
> clueless as the rest of the people posting on this
> board and blaming illegals for their problems and
> YES you are lenient. You are excusing the american
> (let's be real the only american shade that is
> considered american is WHITE on this board) crimes
> and making up excuses for them.


It's clear at this point that you're a fucking idiot and like most stupid fucks, you can't argue what actually was said so you have to try to turn it to what you want to be the case. Ain't gonna work esse.

I was talking about the trades not Chipotle. But you're too fucking dumb to understand that you make my point with your own example. Illegals primarily displace other lower-end workers. They're not 'my problem' because they're not taking my job. They have crushed the trades and opportunities for other lower-income workers like those who otherwise would be working at a Chipotle, hanging drywall, etc.

Now go make up some more bullshit stories to try to make what you're saying sound more convincing. lol

Hey fuckface not arguing just pointing out facts your GED dumbass can't see. With your opinions you are most likely a gay ass kissing redneck that will suck big black or any color cock to get to the top. Chipotle was an example. If greedy corporations would pay the low income workers (legal ones) the wages they need to survive then it wouldn't be a problem attracting them instead the greedy corp bosses you ejoying sucking cock of wouldn't be hiring illegal workers and this shitty thread wouldnt exist. Demand feeds supply dumbass otherwise illegal immigration wouldn't be a problem like the cocaine and marijuana you enjoy wouldn't cause death and violence in latin countries if you didn't demand so much of it. See kids this is what happens when you don't educate yourself!
giveitupdumbshit Wrote:
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> uranidiot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If they can't compete and have to resort to
> > illegal hires which they knowingly hire
> (chipotle)
> > should they even compete? I doubt they aren't
> > making enough money that they can afford to
> STAY
> > in business and cannot afford to pay the
> workers.
> > If you believe that BS then you are as dumb and
> > clueless as the rest of the people posting on
> this
> > board and blaming illegals for their problems
> and
> > YES you are lenient. You are excusing the
> american
> > (let's be real the only american shade that is
> > considered american is WHITE on this board)
> crimes
> > and making up excuses for them.
>
>
> It's clear at this point that you're a fucking
> idiot and like most stupid fucks, you can't argue
> what actually was said so you have to try to turn
> it to what you want to be the case. Ain't gonna
> work esse.
>
> I was talking about the trades not Chipotle. But
> you're too fucking dumb to understand that you
> make my point with your own example. Illegals
> primarily displace other lower-end workers.
> They're not 'my problem' because they're not
> taking my job. They have crushed the trades and
> opportunities for other lower-income workers like
> those who otherwise would be working at a
> Chipotle, hanging drywall, etc.
>
> Now go make up some more bullshit stories to try
> to make what you're saying sound more convincing.
> lol

I cant wait for a president who will close the borders, deport the illegals, and get America back on track. Obama was never the answer. Fairfax County officials are not the answer.

Just another stupid comment from above about greedy corporations not paying their fair share. Just another blanket lame excuse from Democrat's. Most businesses and restaurants barely get by with all the taxation, regulations, and now Obamacare prices they have to pay. Meal prices are low so they get the business to survive in this messed up economy. So they CANT afford to pay high wages AND stay in business. Illegals cant even work at Chipolte (it's against the law dumbass).

The illegal Hispanics should be fortunate that they even get jobs here in America. If they don't like the wages, they get the hell out. Don't boo hoo about it. Go get educated like the rest of us did. Most of the illegals do try to get educated, learn English, and better themselves. However, it is mostly the stupid ones that we all encounter that give us the bad opinion about them. Especially the ones that post on this site with the most lame comments ever.

The Annandale day labor center is a terrible idea. Cant wait for the lawsuit if they do make the center. Promotion of illegals to get a job that they cant legally have. Lawsuit written all over it.

kevreh Wrote:
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> How do you know all of them are illegal? Anyways,
> if the law enforcement wants to arrest them then
> nothing stopping them. In the meantime, nothing
> stopping anyone for picking up a day laborer and
> paying them cash at the end of the day.
>
> BTW, they were standing there on 236 long before
> Obama took office, so nice try.


Citizens don't stand around waiting for someone to pick them up for work. They actually apply online or sit at home collecting WELFARE.

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> More Info Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > The center would be modeled on the Centreville
> > Labor Resource Center, which opened in December
> > 2011, and is entirely supported by grants and
> > donations. That center has a databank of
> workers
> > listing their skills and matches them employers
> > who need people with those skills. Employers
> sign
> > a contract stating they will treat workers
> > fairly.
>
> The Centreville Labor Resource Center has
> completely and totally failed in getting the day
> laborers off the street and into their system.
> There are now dozens of men lining the streets
> around and the grounds of the Centreville Library
> every day. They are not using the CLRC.

Not to mention the one in Herndon.

URTEENYWHITECOCK Wrote:
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> Hey fuckface not arguing just pointing out facts
> your GED dumbass can't see. With your opinions you
> are most likely a gay ass kissing redneck that
> will suck big black or any color cock to get to
> the top. Chipotle was an example. If greedy
> corporations would pay the low income workers
> (legal ones) the wages they need to survive then
> it wouldn't be a problem attracting them instead
> the greedy corp bosses you ejoying sucking cock of
> wouldn't be hiring illegal workers and this shitty
> thread wouldnt exist. Demand feeds supply dumbass
> otherwise illegal immigration wouldn't be a
> problem like the cocaine and marijuana you enjoy
> wouldn't cause death and violence in latin
> countries if you didn't demand so much of it. See
> kids this is what happens when you don't educate
> yourself!


In other words...

"I can't really argue the point so I'm going to try some weak ass insults and throw in some trite talking points now."

You're a joke dude. lmao

If there was so much demand, then we wouldn't have double-digit unemployment among those (like you) without a college degree, younger people, minorities, and other legal citizens at the low end of the job market. Even Pew and other proponents understand that illegals in the workforce primarily affect such groups whether you do or not. So your imaginary friend who you pretend went from illegal to millionaire simply stepped on opportunities for other legal blacks and Hispanics and pushed them farther down and out.

Seems like you have trouble understanding English yourself and have to call me a liar to make yourself feel like you have a point but your points are BS and you obviously don't know what you are talking about and your ignorant uneducated mind goes by appearances and refuses to talk to anyone hispanic looking so you just judge what they are like from the outside. Your education on this subject is lacking so quit embarassing yourself with your 'valid points'. Did you even comprehend what I just said? There is a DEMAND for CHEAP labor which only illegal aliens will accept to get by. Those legal citizens with or without degrees can do the jobs they just do not accept the dirt wages and the 24 hour days. Yep keep calling me a liar I doubt you even have the nerve to talk to anyone hispanic because your ignorant mind assumes they can't speak english. Dumbass.

Ohnoes!hecalledmenames! Wrote:
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> URTEENYWHITECOCK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey fuckface not arguing just pointing out
> facts
> > your GED dumbass can't see. With your opinions
> you
> > are most likely a gay ass kissing redneck that
> > will suck big black or any color cock to get to
> > the top. Chipotle was an example. If greedy
> > corporations would pay the low income workers
> > (legal ones) the wages they need to survive
> then
> > it wouldn't be a problem attracting them
> instead
> > the greedy corp bosses you ejoying sucking cock
> of
> > wouldn't be hiring illegal workers and this
> shitty
> > thread wouldnt exist. Demand feeds supply
> dumbass
> > otherwise illegal immigration wouldn't be a
> > problem like the cocaine and marijuana you
> enjoy
> > wouldn't cause death and violence in latin
> > countries if you didn't demand so much of it.
> See
> > kids this is what happens when you don't
> educate
> > yourself!
>
>
> In other words...
>
> "I can't really argue the point so I'm going to
> try some weak ass insults and throw in some trite
> talking points now."
>
> You're a joke dude. lmao
>
> If there was so much demand, then we wouldn't have
> double-digit unemployment among those (like you)
> without a college degree, younger people,
> minorities, and other legal citizens at the low
> end of the job market. Even Pew and other
> proponents understand that illegals in the
> workforce primarily affect such groups whether you
> do or not. So your imaginary friend who you
> pretend went from illegal to millionaire simply
> stepped on opportunities for other legal blacks
> and Hispanics and pushed them farther down and
> out.

replytogayboy Wrote:
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> Seems like you have trouble understanding English
> yourself and have to call me a liar to make
> yourself feel like you have a point but your
> points are BS and you obviously don't know what
> you are talking about and your ignorant uneducated
> mind goes by appearances and refuses to talk to
> anyone hispanic looking so you just judge what
> they are like from the outside. Your education on
> this subject is lacking so quit embarassing
> yourself with your 'valid points'. Did you even
> comprehend what I just said? There is a DEMAND for
> CHEAP labor which only illegal aliens will accept
> to get by. Those legal citizens with or without
> degrees can do the jobs they just do not accept
> the dirt wages and the 24 hour days. Yep keep
> calling me a liar I doubt you even have the nerve
> to talk to anyone hispanic because your ignorant
> mind assumes they can't speak english. Dumbass.
>


Really? I refuse to talk to my wife and kids? lmao

You're a fucktard who has no point other than just reflexively defending illegals because you've been conditioned to.

As far as the economics go, actually you have it exactly wrong. The relative easy availability and over-supply of cheap illegal labor is precisely why someone can pay less. Why hire a legal person at $12/hour if you can easily find an illegal who will work for $6 with no benefits or insurance or anything else? If there were fewer illegal workers, then there would be less of a cheap labor supply which would tend to drive wages for such work higher. Once again, illegals displace lower income workers who they directly compete with for the same types of lower-end jobs. Reduce the supply and job opportunities and wages where they work as well as for others who otherwise are displaced would rise.

But if you don't want to hear it from me then you can hear it from:

NYT

Quote

Illegal immigration does have some undeniably negative economic effects. Similarly skilled native-born workers are faced with a choice of either accepting lower pay or not working in the field at all. Labor economists have concluded that undocumented workers have lowered the wages of U.S. adults without a high-school diploma — 25 million of them — by anywhere between 0.4 to 7.4 percent.

NPR

[/quote]
"There is one group of Americans that would benefit from a dramatic cut in illegal immigration: high-school dropouts. Most economists agree that the wages of low-skill high-school dropouts are suppressed by somewhere between 3 percent and 8 percent because of competition from immigrants, both legal and illegal. Economists speculate that for the average high-school dropout, that would mean about a $25 a week raise if there were no job competition from immigrants."
[/quote]

Pew Hispanic Center or any number of other relatively illegal-friendly sources all support the same.

Make Us all citizens we will all vote Democrat
Fuck the Constitution
One Party!!!

Obama 2016

Me take all your jobs. I luv America. God bless El Salvador. Your white women love me long time. Free health doctors. Democratic party is nice. They give me ID to vote so I can scam your system. Dumb Americans. Show me the money.

Would be nice to see them going door to door to shovel snow. But NO, that would be real work.

Mexican Male Prostitutes

Tricking out on 236

TWO DIRTY DICKZ

GAY LABORERS
SELLING THEIR BUTTS
OUT TO THE KOREANS