And she's pretty fucking hot. TL;DR - she posted a pic on facebook of her with a gun saying "I'll post a few real pics of me so you know the difference 'when you come find me'."

http://www.nbc12.com/story/28680417/chesterfield-woman-arrested-for-facebook-thugging

HENRICO, VA (WWBT) -
A Facebook feud ends with a Chesterfield woman in police custody. She was charged with harassment by computer.

"I feel like it's ridiculous because we were all guilty," said 26-year-old Kristin Holmes. "And I admit...I was childish and argued as well. Everybody was arguing."

Kristin says she was mistaken for another woman. She decided to post a photo with her holding a gun.

"I'll post a few actual pics of me so you know the difference when you 'come find me,'" read the Facebook caption.

"What happened to freedom of speech?" said Holmes. "And it was just a picture. It wasn't a threat. I thought it was a funny picture, and then I realized later that it was a little bit intimidating. So I took it down."

Holmes now faces a Class 1 misdemeanor that could lead to one year in jail and up to a $2,500 fine.

"And there is no such thing as a petty crime," said Kevin Carroll with the Fraternal Order of Police. "There is no such thing as a petty offense."

According to state code, using a computer to send vulgar or indecent language or to threaten illegal or immoral acts could get you slapped with the same charge.

"You're arresting someone for using bad words?" we asked Carroll.

"It's actually against the law to say it in public," said Carroll. "It's a part of the disorderly conduct statute. If it's against the law to say it in public..why wouldn't it be against the law to say it to someone through a computer?"

Holmes has a message for the community.

"Be careful what you put on the internet," said Holmes."Because you can go to jail for it. Facebook thugging is a crime."

Holmes lives in Chesterfield, but the harassment by computer charge was brought by Henrico Police. Holmes says she plans to fight to have the charge dismissed.

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"And there is no such thing as a petty crime," said Kevin Carroll with the Fraternal Order of Police. "There is no such thing as a petty offense."

So they talked to a receptionist instead of an actual cop? A receptionist who's never heard of petit larceny?

Henrico takes computer harassment very seriously.
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If this works right, it should include the photo (below) that sparked this.

Charging the woman, Holmes, with a crime would make sense if she emailed or otherwise communicated a photo of herself with a gun and captioned "I'm coming after you."

Instead, it seems as if someone threatened the woman by saying "I'm gonna find you" (impliedly, also "I'll get you").

Holmes responds with the gun photo in effect saying 'if you find me,
I'll be prepared to defend myself" - a message of defense, not attack, not a threat. Maybe the news reports leave out actual threats in the woman's messages?

The important point of the article:

According to state code, using a computer to send vulgar or indecent language or to threaten
illegal or immoral acts could get you slapped with the same charge.

I realized that emailing or posting threats by computer was illegal, but I didn't know that vulgar/indecent language was illegal. Vulgar/indecent language is overused on the internet, but outlawing it may violate the First Amendment.

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She looks good in a devil girl sort of way...

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> "And there is no such thing as a petty crime,"
> said Kevin Carroll with the Fraternal Order of
> Police. "There is no such thing as a petty
> offense."
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> So they talked to a receptionist instead of an
> actual cop? A receptionist who's never heard of
> petit larceny?

I guess his point is that minor crimes are taken seriously by police (and others should take them seriously too).


Carroll is President of the Virginia Fraternal Order of Police. He is almost certainly a current or retired police officer.

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> Henrico takes computer harassment very seriously.


Any idea what the defendant Moreno allegedly communicated or what the back story is on that?

BTW, he is from Sterling, quite a ways from Henrico.

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> BTW, he is from Sterling, quite a ways from
> Henrico.



It looks like he was extradited from Loudoun to Henrico.

How did you find this case? As far as I know, there is no way to search based on the charges. For example, I can't search on the court system to find who has been charged with "theft."

Did you already know about the case (i.e., name of defendant) before you searched the court web site?

Thank God that us people in Fairfax County got this information about Henrico, VA!

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> > BTW, he is from Sterling, quite a ways from
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> Henrico.

Not only did he get a long ride, but it looks like he already spent a lot of time in jail before ever being found guilty of anything.

If I understand the court data on this guy, the alleged offense was Feb 1, then he was arrested the next day, Feb 2. The papers supporting the arrest were not filed until Feb 9, a week after the arrest. Then, he got arraigned on Feb 11, whereupon he was released on his own recognizance ("RORed").

Therefore, and if I'm understanding/reading this correctly, the guy spent from Feb 2 to Feb 11 in jail before any conviction, then the judge decided the guy was such a low risk that no bail was required and he was RORed.

I hope he wasn't punished this severely simply for vulgar/indecent language or some absurd general threat (e.g., "I'll get you" or "You'll pay for that").

I'm OK with serious threats being taken seriously and punished accordingly, but it does trouble me that, as I read the data, the guy had 9 nights in jail before he gets a judge to look at the charges.

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What is that coming out of the woman's mouth? A big straw?

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A toothbrush, but I can't stop looking at her epic eyebrows.

Nanny state enforcing pussified laws, created by pussified legislatures, elected by pussified electorate. Yes, pussified- America.
The pussification of America is alive and well.

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I don't see the picture with the toothbrush and the gun as a threat. Somebody in the prosecutor's office is a big pussy.

> "And there is no such thing as a petty crime," said Kevin Carroll with the Fraternal Order of Police. "There is no such thing as a petty offense."


How can a normal citizen of the United States take such a view point. This isn't some crazy anonymous moron on a website, this a named person actually making such a statement. This is so far off the deep end it's amazing. I guess he thinks speeding and jay-walking are serious offenses huh?

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It looks like she has a frog-like tongue that can extend a significant distance out of her mouth, possibly to catch insects.

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> > > Henrico.
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> > It looks like he was extradited from Loudoun to
> > Henrico.
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> Not only did he get a long ride, but it looks like
> he already spent a lot of time in jail before ever
> being found guilty of anything.
>
> If I understand the court data on this guy, the
> alleged offense was Feb 1, then he was arrested
> the next day, Feb 2. The papers supporting the
> arrest were not filed until Feb 9, a week after
> the arrest. Then, he got arraigned on Feb 11,
> whereupon he was released on his own recognizance
> ("RORed").
>
> Therefore, and if I'm understanding/reading this
> correctly, the guy spent from Feb 2 to Feb 11 in
> jail before any conviction, then the judge decided
> the guy was such a low risk that no bail was
> required and he was RORed.
>
> I hope he wasn't punished this severely simply for
> vulgar/indecent language or some absurd general
> threat (e.g., "I'll get you" or "You'll pay for
> that").
>
> I'm OK with serious threats being taken seriously
> and punished accordingly, but it does trouble me
> that, as I read the data, the guy had 9 nights in
> jail before he gets a judge to look at the
> charges.
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> to be nice.


He didn't spend a day in jail. There was no bond set. He was taken to the station, processed and signed himself out the same night.

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> > Therefore, and if I'm understanding/reading
> this
> > correctly, the guy spent from Feb 2 to Feb 11
> in
> > jail before any conviction, then the judge
> decided
> > the guy was such a low risk that no bail was
> > required and he was RORed.
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> He didn't spend a day in jail. There was no bond
> set. He was taken to the station, processed and
> signed himself out the same night.

Thanks for correcting my misunderstanding.

Trial tomorrow.

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They sure do!

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> > "And there is no such thing as a petty crime,"
> said Kevin Carroll with the Fraternal Order of
> Police. "There is no such thing as a petty
> offense."
>
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> How can a normal citizen of the United States take
> such a view point. This isn't some crazy anonymous
> moron on a website, this a named person actually
> making such a statement. This is so far off the
> deep end it's amazing. I guess he thinks speeding
> and jay-walking are serious offenses huh?

Perhaps it is a form of job security.

If one could set the bar real low at work, most probably would.

Cops, do your job. Keep the peace. Protect people.

This woman says she was impersonated and that's why she took the picture to show who she really was. If she can find out who impersonated her online then she can have them charged with a class 6 felony.



1. That § 18.2-152.7:1 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 18.2-152.7:1. Harassment by computer; penalty.

A. If any person, with the intent to coerce, intimidate, defraud, or harass any person, shall use a computer or computer network to communicate obscene, vulgar, profane, lewd, lascivious, or indecent language, or make any suggestion or proposal of an obscene nature, or threaten any illegal or immoral act, he shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

B. Any person who violates subsection A while having knowingly and intentionally assumed the identity of another living individual where a reasonable person would believe that the offender is in fact the individual whose identity is assumed is guilty of a Class 6 felony.