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What if DoJ comes after Fairfax like they are doing to Ferguson
Posted by:
Board of Supervisors
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Date: March 17, 2015 02:12PM
DoJ issued two reports on Ferguson.
The first concluded that, beyond a reasonable doubt, the evidence supports that Officer Wilson’s conduct was fully justified. During the initial encounter, Michael Brown had tried to wrest Wilson’s gun from him by reaching into Wilson’s Chevy Tahoe SUV. Wilson’s story was corroborated, to quote the report, “by bruising on Wilson’s jaw and scratches on his neck, the presence of Brown’s DNA on Wilson’s collar, shirt, and pants, and Wilson’s DNA on Brown’s palm.” Later on, the evidence also showed that Brown was running toward Wilson at the time Wilson fired the fatal shots, not knowing whether Brown was armed or not.
No surprise here. Officers are routinely exonerated for shooting unarmed citizens. They just need to slip in the "in fear of my life" statement in their report. Michael Brown made it easy on them by actually attacking the officer. Such is not always the case.
The second report offers a top-to-bottom condemnation of Ferguson’s criminal justice system. This report was clearly prompted by the belief that Wilson’s killing of Michael Brown was the result of structural problems in Ferguson. In particular:
- More minorities are stopped, arrested, and jailed than white people.
- Fines, penalties, and fees are used to help balance the budget.
- The make-up of government employees does not reflect the make-up of the population.
- Arrest warrants are issued for those who miss court dates or fail to pay fines.
- Money is seized simply by asserting that officers believe it is connected to some illegal activity, even without ever pursuing criminal charges.
Of course, Fairfax County, and many other jurisdictions, follow the same practices.
Are we at risk of the same actions from DoJ as Ferguson is receiving? This article appears to say yes:
http://www.hoover.org/research/race-baiting-and-ferguson
The first concluded that, beyond a reasonable doubt, the evidence supports that Officer Wilson’s conduct was fully justified. During the initial encounter, Michael Brown had tried to wrest Wilson’s gun from him by reaching into Wilson’s Chevy Tahoe SUV. Wilson’s story was corroborated, to quote the report, “by bruising on Wilson’s jaw and scratches on his neck, the presence of Brown’s DNA on Wilson’s collar, shirt, and pants, and Wilson’s DNA on Brown’s palm.” Later on, the evidence also showed that Brown was running toward Wilson at the time Wilson fired the fatal shots, not knowing whether Brown was armed or not.
No surprise here. Officers are routinely exonerated for shooting unarmed citizens. They just need to slip in the "in fear of my life" statement in their report. Michael Brown made it easy on them by actually attacking the officer. Such is not always the case.
The second report offers a top-to-bottom condemnation of Ferguson’s criminal justice system. This report was clearly prompted by the belief that Wilson’s killing of Michael Brown was the result of structural problems in Ferguson. In particular:
- More minorities are stopped, arrested, and jailed than white people.
- Fines, penalties, and fees are used to help balance the budget.
- The make-up of government employees does not reflect the make-up of the population.
- Arrest warrants are issued for those who miss court dates or fail to pay fines.
- Money is seized simply by asserting that officers believe it is connected to some illegal activity, even without ever pursuing criminal charges.
Of course, Fairfax County, and many other jurisdictions, follow the same practices.
Are we at risk of the same actions from DoJ as Ferguson is receiving? This article appears to say yes:
http://www.hoover.org/research/race-baiting-and-ferguson
Re: What if DoJ comes after Fairfax like they are doing to Ferguson
Posted by:
Fairfax Conservative
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Date: March 17, 2015 02:47PM
OP thinks that Holder is a responsible Justice overseer, instead of the hack Democrat that he is. His report is to make this one small police force take the heat for all of the problems in the U.S. justice system. In fact, some of the local jurisdictions, run by Blacks (e.g., the mayor is Black) have more abominable statistics.
However, as far as Holder's statement that Blacks are only 79% of the population, but account for 89% of the arrests, this does not make Ferguson racist. It is Holder and Obama who are the racists. I can't wait for 2016 to get these race clowns out of office.
However, as far as Holder's statement that Blacks are only 79% of the population, but account for 89% of the arrests, this does not make Ferguson racist. It is Holder and Obama who are the racists. I can't wait for 2016 to get these race clowns out of office.
Re: What if DoJ comes after Fairfax like they are doing to Ferguson
Posted by:
and yet
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Date: March 17, 2015 03:47PM
Fairfax Conservative Wrote:
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> OP thinks that Holder is a responsible Justice
> overseer, instead of the hack Democrat that he is.
> His report is to make this one small police force
> take the heat for all of the problems in the U.S.
> justice system. In fact, some of the local
> jurisdictions, run by Blacks (e.g., the mayor is
> Black) have more abominable statistics.
>
> However, as far as Holder's statement that Blacks
> are only 79% of the population, but account for
> 89% of the arrests, this does not make Ferguson
> racist. It is Holder and Obama who are the
> racists. I can't wait for 2016 to get these race
> clowns out of office.
Holder is so bad that your party will not vote to get him out and his replacement in.
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> OP thinks that Holder is a responsible Justice
> overseer, instead of the hack Democrat that he is.
> His report is to make this one small police force
> take the heat for all of the problems in the U.S.
> justice system. In fact, some of the local
> jurisdictions, run by Blacks (e.g., the mayor is
> Black) have more abominable statistics.
>
> However, as far as Holder's statement that Blacks
> are only 79% of the population, but account for
> 89% of the arrests, this does not make Ferguson
> racist. It is Holder and Obama who are the
> racists. I can't wait for 2016 to get these race
> clowns out of office.
Holder is so bad that your party will not vote to get him out and his replacement in.
Re: What if DoJ comes after Fairfax like they are doing to Ferguson
Posted by:
Hmmmmmm
()
Date: March 17, 2015 05:05PM
Using Holder's logic, once the number of crimes equal the racial distribution in a community, no more arrests can be made until the distribution is equally represented.
Re: What if DoJ comes after Fairfax like they are doing to Ferguson
Posted by:
straw man erection
()
Date: March 17, 2015 05:40PM
Hmmmmmm Wrote:
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> Using Holder's logic, once the number of crimes
> equal the racial distribution in a community, no
> more arrests can be made until the distribution is
> equally represented.
That is not his logic; it is yours.
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> Using Holder's logic, once the number of crimes
> equal the racial distribution in a community, no
> more arrests can be made until the distribution is
> equally represented.
That is not his logic; it is yours.
Re: What if DoJ comes after Fairfax like they are doing to Ferguson
Posted by:
LL63p
()
Date: March 17, 2015 06:00PM
straw man erection Wrote:
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> Hmmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Using Holder's logic, once the number of crimes
> > equal the racial distribution in a community,
> no
> > more arrests can be made until the distribution
> is
> > equally represented.
>
> That is not his logic; it is yours.
I agree. Holder would prefer white people be arrested at a higher rate for false or made up charges. Don't lower the rate of black criminals arrested or ticketed just harass white people to even out the numbers a bit.
Blacks commit every serious crime at 7x to 8x the rate of whites so blacks being 69% of the population and 89% of arrests would make sense.
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> Hmmmmmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Using Holder's logic, once the number of crimes
> > equal the racial distribution in a community,
> no
> > more arrests can be made until the distribution
> is
> > equally represented.
>
> That is not his logic; it is yours.
I agree. Holder would prefer white people be arrested at a higher rate for false or made up charges. Don't lower the rate of black criminals arrested or ticketed just harass white people to even out the numbers a bit.
Blacks commit every serious crime at 7x to 8x the rate of whites so blacks being 69% of the population and 89% of arrests would make sense.