It's pretty confusing to me why the school closes so much more often these days and in this county.

How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if there's such a threat associated with cold?

Wisconsin schools are closed too.

http://host.madison.com/news/local/education/local_schools/extreme-cold-keeps-area-schools-closed-through-tuesday/article_de38ae03-4e67-55cd-a680-ad0385fea767.html?comment_form=true

I don't know...maybe because they live in Wisconsin and they are used to it, acclimated to it and have the proper clothing and "gear" to survive it. Why does the U.S. Military have specific climate related training; i.e. jungle, cold weather, Arctic and desert? When I was stationed in Korea I was issued gear that I had never seen before in the military because the conditions in Korea in the winter are far different than anywhere else I was stationed, and we had to operate differently because of that. It is far easier to close the schools for a day than to try to educate every parent and student about extreme weather and hope they have the means to supply their children with the proper clothing with a couple days notice. Get over yourself, be a good parent and go make some hot chocolate, play some board games and enjoy your kids today.

Pissed parent Wrote:
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> It's pretty confusing to me why the school closes
> so much more often these days and in this county.
>
>
> How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if there's
> such a threat associated with cold?


Let me guess, in your day you walked up hill both ways in the snow blah blah blah

You have become the old fart of a parent that you used to hate. Enjoy your miserable life.

The same ones bitching about school being closed today are the same ones that cry when the government DOESNT close for bad weather so they have to go to work....same shit different day...

Pissed parent Wrote:
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> It's pretty confusing to me why the school closes
> so much more often these days and in this county.
>
>
> How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if there's
> such a threat associated with cold?


How does this relate to your subject?

Pissed parent Wrote:
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> It's pretty confusing to me why the school closes
> so much more often these days and in this county.
>
>
> How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if there's
> such a threat associated with cold?

They're equipped to deal with the cold. We're not. Glad I could clear that up for you. You really want kids standing out in 5 degree cold, waiting for the bus? Not smart. You know how many kids have to walk? Not smart.

Yea....it it a shame. When schools close, parents actually have to take care of their own kids. "pissed parent" is one of those. quit crying and grow a set.

American Tourister Wrote:
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> Pissed parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's pretty confusing to me why the school
> closes
> > so much more often these days and in this
> county.
> >
> >
> > How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if there's
> > such a threat associated with cold?
>
> They're equipped to deal with the cold. We're
> not. Glad I could clear that up for you. You
> really want kids standing out in 5 degree cold,
> waiting for the bus? Not smart. You know how
> many kids have to walk? Not smart.


Yes we don't want our kids to get cold. DC and Montgomery County are on time today. P.G., Arlington and Alexandria are running 2 hours late. We sure don't want to expose OUR kids to cold weather.

The last month of education has been wasted.

The kids who get to stay home because someone saw a snowflake or thinks its too cold are tomorrows govt employees who dont want to go to work for any reason possible.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> The last month of education has been wasted.
>
> The kids who get to stay home because someone saw
> a snowflake or thinks its too cold are tomorrows
> govt employees who dont want to go to work for any
> reason possible.


School district build in snowdays. If you don't use them, then you end the school year early. If you use too much, school year extended.

good thing we're not losing/have lost our competitive advantage against other countries when competing for jobs. we can afford to teach every child that if it's a little chilly outside, you can just hide at home and someone will bring you milk and cookies.

this is complete bullshit. i hear excuses about being cold at the bus stop for 5 minutes in the morning, or the risk of pipes breaking or power going out at school.

really? and that stuff can't happen at home?

call it what it is -- people are looking for any excuse to have one more day off.

i think the new rule should be that snow days come out of teacher "work" days. do your fucking jobs because the rest of us can't just call in cold after christmas vacation and before martin luther king vacation and before whatever the hell your next bullshit reason is for yet another day off.

There are several other issues:

School buses have more trouble in the severe cold. Do you really want your kid standing on a corner in dangerous temps waiting for a school bus?

Many FCPS kids are in trailers that are not necessarily well insulated. They must walk to the main building to use facilities.

Broken water pipes in schools can also be a problem on days like this--no water-no "facilities". Unfortunately, these problems are usually not discovered until school starts in the a.m. Sending kids home is a lot more difficult than cancelling school.

Some kids do not have the proper attire for weather this cold.

horseshit. kids don't stand at the bus stop waiting for 3 hours for the next bus. they get there another way.

trailers have heaters.

yes they might have to put their coat on for the 20 second walk to go pee.

broken water pipes happen at home too. your point?

it's not that fucking cold. you don't need a spacesuit.

Because parent's are fucking pussies who coddle their demon spawn too closely.

I don't see why the schools had to close today. 17 degrees isn't that cold at all. In Boston or Chicago this would be a warm day.

I can only imagine in a couple of years that Fairfax county will be closing the schools because it's cloudy and this could make Fairfax county kids sad.

What a pansy government and school system. Do the male empolyees also wear panties?

In 2009 i remember waking up taking a shower and then walking a mile uphill in -2. Yeah i broke my frozen hair off and showed my classmates cuz that shit was hard!

been there Wrote:
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>
>
> School buses have more trouble in the severe cold.
> Do you really want your kid standing on a corner
> in dangerous temps waiting for a school bus?
>
>

If the police cars wont start, I dont think the cops get to stay home do they?

Stabitha Wrote:
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> been there Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > School buses have more trouble in the severe
> cold.
> > Do you really want your kid standing on a
> corner
> > in dangerous temps waiting for a school bus?
> >
> >
>
> If the police cars wont start, I dont think the
> cops get to stay home do they?


What do you care? Have kids? NO?! Then STFU.

Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> horseshit. kids don't stand at the bus stop
> waiting for 3 hours for the next bus. they get
> there another way.
>
> trailers have heaters.
>
> yes they might have to put their coat on for the
> 20 second walk to go pee.
>
> broken water pipes happen at home too. your
> point?
>
> it's not that fucking cold. you don't need a
> spacesuit.

The bleeding heart line I heard last night was: What about the children from poor families that can't afford warm clothing? Do you really think we should let them stand out in the cold waiting for the bus?

Give me a break.

been there Wrote:
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> There are several other issues:
>
> School buses have more trouble in the severe cold.
> Do you really want your kid standing on a corner
> in dangerous temps waiting for a school bus?

Station a mechanic at the bus lots to make sure the busses start. They can arrive there an hour before the drivers are due to arrive. Most kids on a day like today will have a parent or a friend's parent drive them to school. Not a big deal.

> Many FCPS kids are in trailers that are not
> necessarily well insulated. They must walk to the
> main building to use facilities.

Bullshit, the trailers are well insulated to federal standards. If a kid has to go to the bathroom in the main building, so what? They will run in this weather, they will not walk. So they are cold for 10 seconds?

> Broken water pipes in schools can also be a
> problem on days like this--no water-no
> "facilities". Unfortunately, these problems are
> usually not discovered until school starts in the
> a.m. Sending kids home is a lot more difficult
> than cancelling school.

Bullshit again. FCPS has over 200 schools. How many schools do you really think are going to have broken water pipes? Maybe one at the most. Why aren't these problems discovered until school starts? The custodians, facility and staff are in school long before school starts. I think they might notice water on the floor.

> Some kids do not have the proper attire for
> weather this cold.

More bullshit. The key to staying warm is to layer up. They might no have the $300 L.L. Bean jacket, but they all have clothes that they can layer up. Why should we close the entire school a few kids might not have the proper clothes, or know how to put on layers.

This seems to be working for DC, Arlington, Alexandria, Montgomery County and Prince George's County public schools.

Actually the poor kids WANT to go to school.

First off, that's the only way they get any food and nutrition. And second, who wants to sit around the house all day watching mom smoke crack and turn tricks?

Who do I complain to about needl Wrote:
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> Because parent's are fucking pussies who coddle
> their demon spawn too closely.


^ This. We now have a generation of pussies raising a generation of pussy drippings.

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> There are several other issues:
>
> School buses have more trouble in the severe cold.
> Do you really want your kid standing on a corner
> in dangerous temps waiting for a school bus?

When I was in the Army and stationed in Germany, when it was this cold, which was pretty often, the motor pool would have guys go out and start the trucks every hour and run them for about5 or 10 minutes to keep them warm in case there was an alert or whatever. I know the mechanics were pissed about it, but it worked!

Of course, I imagine that would be some violation of work rules or something.

Complain to whomever you want, from the Superintendant to the school principal, or to your kid's teacher. You won't be the first, you won't be the last, and the schools will still be closed. Save your time and your breath.

"Station a mechanic at the bus lots to make sure the busses start. They can arrive there an hour before the drivers are due to arrive. Most kids on a day like today will have a parent or a friend's parent drive them to school. Not a big deal."

They do that, but it doesn't help much. All the mechanics can do is put the jumper cables on a bus, which allows them to crank the engine longer. They can then crank the engine until the starter melts, but usually they still won't start. They can't even use starting fluid because with glow plug equipped engines, an explosion can result. They definitely can't perform the extensive repairs needed to make them start while standing out in a cold, dark parking lot.

If kids do not have appropriate attire for the cold, then someone needs to call CPS on the parents.

bds Wrote:
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> "Station a mechanic at the bus lots to make sure
> the busses start. They can arrive there an hour
> before the drivers are due to arrive. Most kids on
> a day like today will have a parent or a friend's
> parent drive them to school. Not a big deal."
>
> They do that, but it doesn't help much. All the
> mechanics can do is put the jumper cables on a
> bus, which allows them to crank the engine longer.
> They can then crank the engine until the starter
> melts, but usually they still won't start. They
> can't even use starting fluid because with glow
> plug equipped engines, an explosion can result.
> They definitely can't perform the extensive
> repairs needed to make them start while standing
> out in a cold, dark parking lot.


Then FCPS should talk with DC, Arlington, Alexandria, Montgomery County and Prince George's County public schools to see how they start a cold school bus. Busses and trucks have been started today with no problems. Why is it school busses in Fairfax County cannot start?

You know what?

Stay home and watch your kids. As a taxpayer, I'm not paying for your babysitting.

Take the day off, or pay a babysitter. If the educational environment is going to be messed up at all because of weather then its tough turkey for you lazy parents.

Ex-Army Wrote:
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> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There are several other issues:
> >
> > School buses have more trouble in the severe
> cold.
> > Do you really want your kid standing on a
> corner
> > in dangerous temps waiting for a school bus?
>
> When I was in the Army and stationed in Germany,
> when it was this cold, which was pretty often, the
> motor pool would have guys go out and start the
> trucks every hour and run them for about5 or 10
> minutes to keep them warm in case there was an
> alert or whatever. I know the mechanics were
> pissed about it, but it worked!
>
> Of course, I imagine that would be some violation
> of work rules or something.


Did you have 1500 vehicles scattered over a 400 square mile area? That is the situation with FCPS school buses. How many people would it take to drive around and start 1500 buses every hour through the night?

As for work rules, as you know, it's a bit different in the civilian sector. Yeah unfortunately, you have to pay employees for every hour they work. No civilian employer can legally compel employees to work for free.

More whiners Wrote:
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> bds Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Station a mechanic at the bus lots to make
> sure
> > the busses start. They can arrive there an hour
> > before the drivers are due to arrive. Most kids
> on
> > a day like today will have a parent or a
> friend's
> > parent drive them to school. Not a big deal."
> >
> > They do that, but it doesn't help much. All
> the
> > mechanics can do is put the jumper cables on a
> > bus, which allows them to crank the engine
> longer.
> > They can then crank the engine until the
> starter
> > melts, but usually they still won't start.
> They
> > can't even use starting fluid because with glow
> > plug equipped engines, an explosion can result.
>
> > They definitely can't perform the extensive
> > repairs needed to make them start while
> standing
> > out in a cold, dark parking lot.
>
>
> Then FCPS should talk with DC, Arlington,
> Alexandria, Montgomery County and Prince George's
> County public schools to see how they start a cold
> school bus. Busses and trucks have been started
> today with no problems. Why is it school busses
> in Fairfax County cannot start?

Because most of them are JUNK. They haven't bought any new buses in any meaningful numbers in over five years. Many are approaching their 17th year and have over 200K on the clock.

Prince William County is currently replacing their 2002 model buses. In Fairfax, it takes a driver at least 5 years on the job just to move up to a 2002 bus.

Prince William also equips all their buses with a marvelous device called a Webasto engine pre-heater, which is a small, onboard diesel-fired furnace. You set this thing to come on at a certain time (say 45 minutes before the driver arrives) and it preheats the engine coolant to near operating temperature. The driver arrives, the engine starts instantly and immediatately the heaters and defrosters are blowing out hot air.

bds Wrote:
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> Because most of them are JUNK. They haven't
> bought any new buses in any meaningful numbers in
> over five years. Many are approaching their 17th
> year and have over 200K on the clock.
>
> Prince William County is currently replacing their
> 2002 model buses. In Fairfax, it takes a driver
> at least 5 years on the job just to move up to a
> 2002 bus.
>
> Prince William also equips all their buses with a
> marvelous device called a Webasto engine
> pre-heater, which is a small, onboard diesel-fired
> furnace. You set this thing to come on at a
> certain time (say 45 minutes before the driver
> arrives) and it preheats the engine coolant to
> near operating temperature. The driver arrives,
> the engine starts instantly and immediatately the
> heaters and defrosters are blowing out hot air.

FCPS doesn't have money for things like school buses.

They prefer to piss it away on astro turf, smart boards, and other assorted nonsense.

mad7000 Wrote:
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> If kids do not have appropriate attire for the
> cold, then someone needs to call CPS on the
> parents.

Seriously. There are dozens of effective programs/charities to feed and cloth needy children.

If you kid is going hungry or freezing to death then you are a complete failure as a parent.

bds Wrote:
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> They do that, but it doesn't help much. All the
> mechanics can do is put the jumper cables on a
> bus, which allows them to crank the engine longer.
> They can then crank the engine until the starter
> melts, but usually they still won't start. They
> can't even use starting fluid because with glow
> plug equipped engines, an explosion can result.
> They definitely can't perform the extensive
> repairs needed to make them start while standing
> out in a cold, dark parking lot.


Awww bullshit. Christ, some of you people act like we're in the freakin Arctic Circle something.

There's no need to start the engines on an hourly basis. If it was done by the military, which I kind of doubt other than in some unusual case, it was done in the name of emergency preparedness not out of absolute necessity.

How the hell do you think people run the rest of the millions of diesel-engine trucks scattered around here and in colder locations on a routine basis? Yes, it can be a little tougher when very cold but certainly no "extensive repairs" are required. People do it day in, day out, no problem at all beyond basic maintenance and a little extra cranking.

Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> trailers have heaters.

Those trailers are still colder than Siberia.

bds Wrote:
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> More whiners Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bds Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > "Station a mechanic at the bus lots to make
> > sure
> > > the busses start. They can arrive there an
> hour
> > > before the drivers are due to arrive. Most
> kids
> > on
> > > a day like today will have a parent or a
> > friend's
> > > parent drive them to school. Not a big deal."
> > >
> > > They do that, but it doesn't help much. All
> > the
> > > mechanics can do is put the jumper cables on
> a
> > > bus, which allows them to crank the engine
> > longer.
> > > They can then crank the engine until the
> > starter
> > > melts, but usually they still won't start.
> > They
> > > can't even use starting fluid because with
> glow
> > > plug equipped engines, an explosion can
> result.
> >
> > > They definitely can't perform the extensive
> > > repairs needed to make them start while
> > standing
> > > out in a cold, dark parking lot.
> >
> >
> > Then FCPS should talk with DC, Arlington,
> > Alexandria, Montgomery County and Prince
> George's
> > County public schools to see how they start a
> cold
> > school bus. Busses and trucks have been
> started
> > today with no problems. Why is it school
> busses
> > in Fairfax County cannot start?
>
> Because most of them are JUNK. They haven't
> bought any new buses in any meaningful numbers in
> over five years. Many are approaching their 17th
> year and have over 200K on the clock.
>
> Prince William County is currently replacing their
> 2002 model buses. In Fairfax, it takes a driver
> at least 5 years on the job just to move up to a
> 2002 bus.
>
> Prince William also equips all their buses with a
> marvelous device called a Webasto engine
> pre-heater, which is a small, onboard diesel-fired
> furnace. You set this thing to come on at a
> certain time (say 45 minutes before the driver
> arrives) and it preheats the engine coolant to
> near operating temperature. The driver arrives,
> the engine starts instantly and immediatately the
> heaters and defrosters are blowing out hot air.


200K miles is not much for a desel engine, much less a school bus. These are not cars, they are made for the long haul. You don't have to replace them every 5 years.

By the way, PWC schools are closed today.

Here is the buses in the FCPS fleet:
FCPS operates a fleet of close to 1,700 school buses.[3] The fleet make-up consists of buses that are from 1996 to 2013. FCPS operates the following bus models:

1996 AmTran Genesis
1996 AmTran RE
1997 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
1998 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EF
1998 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
1999 AmTran Genesis
1999 AmTran RE
2000 AmTran FE
2000 AmTran RE
2000 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EF
2001 AmTran RE
2001 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EF
2002 IC RE
2002 IC FE
2003 IC RE
2003 IC FE
2004 IC RE
2004 IC FE
2006 IC RE
2006 IC FE
2007 IC RE
2007 IC FE
2008 IC RE
2008 IC FE
2008 IC CE
2009 IC CE
2009 IC RE
2010 IC CE
2010 IC RE
2011 IC CE
2012 IC CE
2013 IC CE
2013 IC RE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_County_Public_Schools

i agree with stabitha (did i actually say that?)

yeah there are some kids without warm coats. but they're also the same kids who need to be at school for the breakfast and lunch program. they're the kids whose parents can't just call in and take the day off work. they're also the kids least likely to have heat at home.

Nanook Wrote:
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> bds Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > They do that, but it doesn't help much. All
> the
> > mechanics can do is put the jumper cables on a
> > bus, which allows them to crank the engine
> longer.
> > They can then crank the engine until the
> starter
> > melts, but usually they still won't start.
> They
> > can't even use starting fluid because with glow
> > plug equipped engines, an explosion can result.
>
> > They definitely can't perform the extensive
> > repairs needed to make them start while
> standing
> > out in a cold, dark parking lot.
>
>
> Awww bullshit. Christ, some of you people act
> like we're in the freakin Arctic Circle something.
>
>
> There's no need to start the engines on an hourly
> basis. If it was done by the military, which I
> kind of doubt other than in some unusual case, it
> was done in the name of emergency preparedness not
> out of absolute necessity.
>
> How the hell do you think people run the rest of
> the millions of diesel-engine trucks scattered
> around here and in colder locations on a routine
> basis? Yes, it can be a little tougher when very
> cold but certainly no "extensive repairs" are
> required. People do it day in, day out, no
> problem at all beyond basic maintenance and a
> little extra cranking.

The reason most buses won't start is too many of the glow plugs are burned out. There are eight of them in a 7.3 International diesel engine. The more that are in-op, the less chance the thing will start when it's cold.

Have you ever replaced the glow plugs in these engines? I have, and you ain't doing it in a parking lot in the dark.

More whiners Wrote:
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> bds Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More whiners Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > bds Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > "Station a mechanic at the bus lots to make
> > > sure
> > > > the busses start. They can arrive there an
> > hour
> > > > before the drivers are due to arrive. Most
> > kids
> > > on
> > > > a day like today will have a parent or a
> > > friend's
> > > > parent drive them to school. Not a big
> deal."
> > > >
> > > > They do that, but it doesn't help much.
> All
> > > the
> > > > mechanics can do is put the jumper cables
> on
> > a
> > > > bus, which allows them to crank the engine
> > > longer.
> > > > They can then crank the engine until the
> > > starter
> > > > melts, but usually they still won't start.
> > > They
> > > > can't even use starting fluid because with
> > glow
> > > > plug equipped engines, an explosion can
> > result.
> > >
> > > > They definitely can't perform the extensive
> > > > repairs needed to make them start while
> > > standing
> > > > out in a cold, dark parking lot.
> > >
> > >
> > > Then FCPS should talk with DC, Arlington,
> > > Alexandria, Montgomery County and Prince
> > George's
> > > County public schools to see how they start a
> > cold
> > > school bus. Busses and trucks have been
> > started
> > > today with no problems. Why is it school
> > busses
> > > in Fairfax County cannot start?
> >
> > Because most of them are JUNK. They haven't
> > bought any new buses in any meaningful numbers
> in
> > over five years. Many are approaching their
> 17th
> > year and have over 200K on the clock.
> >
> > Prince William County is currently replacing
> their
> > 2002 model buses. In Fairfax, it takes a
> driver
> > at least 5 years on the job just to move up to
> a
> > 2002 bus.
> >
> > Prince William also equips all their buses with
> a
> > marvelous device called a Webasto engine
> > pre-heater, which is a small, onboard
> diesel-fired
> > furnace. You set this thing to come on at a
> > certain time (say 45 minutes before the driver
> > arrives) and it preheats the engine coolant to
> > near operating temperature. The driver
> arrives,
> > the engine starts instantly and immediatately
> the
> > heaters and defrosters are blowing out hot air.
>
>
> 200K miles is not much for a desel engine, much
> less a school bus. These are not cars, they are
> made for the long haul. You don't have to replace
> them every 5 years.
>
> By the way, PWC schools are closed today.
>
> Here is the buses in the FCPS fleet:
> FCPS operates a fleet of close to 1,700 school
> buses.[3] The fleet make-up consists of buses that
> are from 1996 to 2013. FCPS operates the following
> bus models:
>
> 1996 AmTran Genesis
> 1996 AmTran RE
> 1997 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
> 1998 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EF
> 1998 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
> 1999 AmTran Genesis
> 1999 AmTran RE
> 2000 AmTran FE
> 2000 AmTran RE
> 2000 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EF
> 2001 AmTran RE
> 2001 Thomas Saf-T-Liner MVP EF
> 2002 IC RE
> 2002 IC FE
> 2003 IC RE
> 2003 IC FE
> 2004 IC RE
> 2004 IC FE
> 2006 IC RE
> 2006 IC FE
> 2007 IC RE
> 2007 IC FE
> 2008 IC RE
> 2008 IC FE
> 2008 IC CE
> 2009 IC CE
> 2009 IC RE
> 2010 IC CE
> 2010 IC RE
> 2011 IC CE
> 2012 IC CE
> 2013 IC CE
> 2013 IC RE
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_County_Public
> _Schools


200K is not a lot of miles for a REAL diesel engine (wet sleeve). Most of the county's buses are powered by 6.0 or 7.3 Navistar "throwaway" (dry sleeve) engines and 200K is a lot. The same engines were sold to Ford Motor Co, who called it the "Powerstroke" for use in their light trucks. The 6.0 engines were SO bad (buybacks and warranty costs) that Ford now produces their own diesel engine for their light trucks.

About 100 2006 IC RE have the 6.0 garbage motor. A lot of them won't start regardless of the weather.

Bus model years are a year off. ex: 2013 went into service in 2012. They do this because many states have age limits for buses. School systems get an extra year out of them that way.

BTW, all their IC CE buses are short HP buses and they get grants for those. The IC REs are the big buses.

I believe FCPS were correct in cancelling. Parents do not know how to raise their kids these days. Kids would have tried to imitate that 49er quarterback who went sleeveless and gloveless in -10 degree weather. Today it was -5 to -20 degrees and those kids would have gotten hypothermia or frostbite and FCPS could have been sued. FCPS was just protecting itself from any liability.

So what you really expected to hear was - "FCPS were initially going to be closed today, but since we got a phone call from Ms. (insert whiny mom's name here), we have now decided to open just to make her happy. So bundle up the little princes and princesses and send them on their way". Try it next time, too. I bet it will work!

been there Wrote:
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> Some kids do not have the proper attire for
> weather this cold.

Yet those same kids have iPhones, $400 headphones and the latest Air Jordan collectable shoes, right?

all you conservatarded teafaggots know how to do is bitch and moan, the louder the better. well fuuuuuuccccckkkkk yoooooouuuuuuu.

ObserverOfTheTwilightZone Wrote:
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> I believe FCPS were correct in cancelling.
> Parents do not know how to raise their kids these
> days. Kids would have tried to imitate that 49er
> quarterback who went sleeveless and gloveless in
> -10 degree weather. Today it was -5 to -20
> degrees and those kids would have gotten
> hypothermia or frostbite and FCPS could have been
> sued. FCPS was just protecting itself from any
> liability.


Schools should be canceled because of a football game? Lady, you are beyond stupid.

ObserverOfTheTwilightZone Wrote:
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> I believe FCPS were correct in cancelling.
> Parents do not know how to raise their kids these
> days. Kids would have tried to imitate that 49er
> quarterback who went sleeveless and gloveless in
> -10 degree weather. Today it was -5 to -20
> degrees and those kids would have gotten
> hypothermia or frostbite and FCPS could have been
> sued. FCPS was just protecting itself from any
> liability.

You couldn't be more right! This has nothing to do with the precious little snowflakes, or overpaid administrators, or work to rule mechanics and drivers, or fictitious teachers unions. This decision and all that are like it are meant to keep two words out of the same sentence, "institutional" and "liability".

Funny how the Peoples' Republic of Arlington, and the Peoples' Republic of Alexandria, along with the Glorious Revolutionary Socialist Counties of Montgomery, Howard, Prince George's, Anne Arundel and Frederick in the Glorious Workers Paradise of Maryland all seem to gut this crisis out with minimal or no disruption to the school day.

One can only conclude that their Stalinist governments are so overbearing that they will actually do what makes sense, instead of cravenly capitulating to every whiny parent with a lawyer on speed dial. The freedom loving stalwarts of Fairfax, Loudoun, and Prince William, sworn to defend their constitutional right to sue anyone over anything.

It was not that cold. I went to the gym, took the kids out to lunch and ran some errands. We all survived.

We are raising wimpy kids.

^ ^ ^ ^
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Send the kids to school! Wrote:
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> It was not that cold. I went to the gym, took the
> kids out to lunch and ran some errands. We all
> survived.
>
> We are raising wimpy kids.


In thirty years today's kids will tell their children "I can't believe they closed the school because it is 32 degrees today, in my day they didn't close the schools until it was in the single digits."

Send the kids to school! Wrote:
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> It was not that cold. I went to the gym, took the
> kids out to lunch and ran some errands. We all
> survived.
>
> We are raising wimpy kids.


meanwhile, you'd have been one of these parents bitching to Gateway had they chosen differently.................

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/01/montgomery-county-parents-upset-about-school-start-time-98965.html

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Send the kids to school! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It was not that cold. I went to the gym, took
> the
> > kids out to lunch and ran some errands. We all
> > survived.
> >
> > We are raising wimpy kids.
>
>
> meanwhile, you'd have been one of these parents
> bitching to Gateway had they chosen
> differently.................
>
> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/01/montgomery-co
> unty-parents-upset-about-school-start-time-98965.h
> tml

Pissed parent Wrote:
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> It's pretty confusing to me why the school closes
> so much more often these days and in this county.
>
>
> How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if there's
> such a threat associated with cold?


Sound like another Fairfax County elitist bitch. So pretentious living in some overpriced McMansion in the likes of Fairfax Station, Oakton, Laurel Hill or some such fantasy land.

Let me break it down for you. Contrary to what you probably think, not every child in this county is decked out in comfy Northface jackets with Burberry scarves and mittens. Not every child's Mommy can crank the heat in her oversized Suburban and get a lift to school. There are plenty less fortunate souls who would be standing outside at the bus stop, wearing a lousy walmart jacket with no gloves, freezing to death in -20 wind chills. Just because you have the means to dodge the effects of a Polar Vortex, doesn't mean everyone else does. So for once, try to understand that there are more people to consider than yourself in situations like this. Sorry you had to Pilates today, but it's no big deal because you will probably remain a fat fuck anyway.

Stay warm...my friends.

ScrewUtoo Wrote:
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> Pissed parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's pretty confusing to me why the school
> closes
> > so much more often these days and in this
> county.
> >
> >
> > How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if there's
> > such a threat associated with cold?
>
>
> Sound like another Fairfax County elitist bitch.
> So pretentious living in some overpriced McMansion
> in the likes of Fairfax Station, Oakton, Laurel
> Hill or some such fantasy land.
>
> Let me break it down for you. Contrary to what you
> probably think, not every child in this county is
> decked out in comfy Northface jackets with
> Burberry scarves and mittens. Not every child's
> Mommy can crank the heat in her oversized Suburban
> and get a lift to school. There are plenty less
> fortunate souls who would be standing outside at
> the bus stop, wearing a lousy walmart jacket with
> no gloves, freezing to death in -20 wind chills.
> Just because you have the means to dodge the
> effects of a Polar Vortex, doesn't mean everyone
> else does. So for once, try to understand that
> there are more people to consider than yourself in
> situations like this. Sorry you had to Pilates
> today, but it's no big deal because you will
> probably remain a fat fuck anyway.
>
> Stay warm...my friends.


Why is it that the "poor" in the US are almost always obese, have large televisions and $100 trainers?...sorry "tennis shoes"

Maybe pass up on that new video game, and buy a fucking jacket for your kid instead.

ApartheidWorked Wrote:
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> ScrewUtoo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pissed parent Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's pretty confusing to me why the school
> > closes
> > > so much more often these days and in this
> > county.
> > >
> > >
> > > How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if
> there's
> > > such a threat associated with cold?
> >
> >
> > Sound like another Fairfax County elitist
> bitch.
> > So pretentious living in some overpriced
> McMansion
> > in the likes of Fairfax Station, Oakton, Laurel
> > Hill or some such fantasy land.
> >
> > Let me break it down for you. Contrary to what
> you
> > probably think, not every child in this county
> is
> > decked out in comfy Northface jackets with
> > Burberry scarves and mittens. Not every child's
> > Mommy can crank the heat in her oversized
> Suburban
> > and get a lift to school. There are plenty less
> > fortunate souls who would be standing outside
> at
> > the bus stop, wearing a lousy walmart jacket
> with
> > no gloves, freezing to death in -20 wind
> chills.
> > Just because you have the means to dodge the
> > effects of a Polar Vortex, doesn't mean
> everyone
> > else does. So for once, try to understand that
> > there are more people to consider than yourself
> in
> > situations like this. Sorry you had to Pilates
> > today, but it's no big deal because you will
> > probably remain a fat fuck anyway.
> >
> > Stay warm...my friends.
>
>
> Why is it that the "poor" in the US are almost
> always obese, have large televisions and $100
> trainers?...sorry "tennis shoes"
>
> Maybe pass up on that new video game, and buy a
> fucking jacket for your kid instead.


Facts? Sources? Anecdotal evidence? Anything? No?

Solution: STFU

Dumb fuck Slayer Wrote:
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> ApartheidWorked Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ScrewUtoo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Pissed parent Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > It's pretty confusing to me why the school
> > > closes
> > > > so much more often these days and in this
> > > county.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How are kids in Wisconsin surviving if
> > there's
> > > > such a threat associated with cold?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sound like another Fairfax County elitist
> > bitch.
> > > So pretentious living in some overpriced
> > McMansion
> > > in the likes of Fairfax Station, Oakton,
> Laurel
> > > Hill or some such fantasy land.
> > >
> > > Let me break it down for you. Contrary to
> what
> > you
> > > probably think, not every child in this
> county
> > is
> > > decked out in comfy Northface jackets with
> > > Burberry scarves and mittens. Not every
> child's
> > > Mommy can crank the heat in her oversized
> > Suburban
> > > and get a lift to school. There are plenty
> less
> > > fortunate souls who would be standing outside
> > at
> > > the bus stop, wearing a lousy walmart jacket
> > with
> > > no gloves, freezing to death in -20 wind
> > chills.
> > > Just because you have the means to dodge the
> > > effects of a Polar Vortex, doesn't mean
> > everyone
> > > else does. So for once, try to understand
> that
> > > there are more people to consider than
> yourself
> > in
> > > situations like this. Sorry you had to
> Pilates
> > > today, but it's no big deal because you will
> > > probably remain a fat fuck anyway.
> > >
> > > Stay warm...my friends.
> >
> >
> > Why is it that the "poor" in the US are almost
> > always obese, have large televisions and $100
> > trainers?...sorry "tennis shoes"
> >
> > Maybe pass up on that new video game, and buy a
> > fucking jacket for your kid instead.
>
>
> Facts? Sources? Anecdotal evidence? Anything? No?
>
>
> Solution: STFU


http://www.ibtimes.com/heres-how-obesity-relates-gender-race-income-us-charts-1469056


For starters. And no one can lie and say they don't see "poor" niggers with $100+ shoes on.


Dems muh Jordans.