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Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
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Wealthiest Zip Codes In America
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Date: September 29, 2014 05:55PM
Wealthiest Zip Codes In America
2. Fairfax Station, VA — 22039
4. Great Falls, VA — 22066
6. Potomac, MD — 20854
7. Clarksville, MD — 21029
10. McLean, VA — 22101
12. Clifton, VA — 20124
2. Fairfax Station, VA — 22039
4. Great Falls, VA — 22066
6. Potomac, MD — 20854
7. Clarksville, MD — 21029
10. McLean, VA — 22101
12. Clifton, VA — 20124
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
Real Truth
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Date: September 29, 2014 06:03PM
I would go more
Great Falls
McLean
Potomac
Clifton
Reston
Oakton
Great Falls
McLean
Potomac
Clifton
Reston
Oakton
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
U. B. Wong
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Date: September 29, 2014 06:08PM
Real Truth Wrote:
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> I would go more
>
> Great Falls
> McLean
> Potomac
> Clifton
> Reston
> Oakton
You'd be wrong.
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> I would go more
>
> Great Falls
> McLean
> Potomac
> Clifton
> Reston
> Oakton
You'd be wrong.
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
The world is in a sad state
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Date: September 29, 2014 06:56PM
Hmmm...
"The team used data based on the 5-year averages from the American Community Survey — a part of the U.S. Census Bureau — to sort by the percentage of households making more than $150,000 per year. FindTheBest only included zip codes with at least 10,000 residents."
Duh, the survey is produced by Census but is not a part of it. And they seem to be sorting by income, not wealth. Those are kind of different things -- one is a flow and the other is a stock. Kind of dumb to get confused by something as simple as that.
"The team used data based on the 5-year averages from the American Community Survey — a part of the U.S. Census Bureau — to sort by the percentage of households making more than $150,000 per year. FindTheBest only included zip codes with at least 10,000 residents."
Duh, the survey is produced by Census but is not a part of it. And they seem to be sorting by income, not wealth. Those are kind of different things -- one is a flow and the other is a stock. Kind of dumb to get confused by something as simple as that.
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
Real Truth
()
Date: September 29, 2014 07:00PM
Ok, makes more sense now. The places I listed many of the people have inherited the wealth so they wouldn't show up with average salaries.
I still stand behind for rich areas:
Great Falls
McLean
Potomac
Clifton
Reston
Oakton
You can just drive through Great Falls see all the wealth.
I still stand behind for rich areas:
Great Falls
McLean
Potomac
Clifton
Reston
Oakton
You can just drive through Great Falls see all the wealth.
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
anonymous liberal
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Date: September 29, 2014 08:06PM
Real Truth Wrote:
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> You can just drive through Great Falls see all the wealth.
That wouldn't be a very strong methodology either.
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> You can just drive through Great Falls see all the wealth.
That wouldn't be a very strong methodology either.
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
mT9Km
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Date: September 29, 2014 09:37PM
The world is in a sad state Wrote:
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> Hmmm...
>
> "The team used data based on the 5-year averages
> from the American Community Survey — a part of
> the U.S. Census Bureau — to sort by the
> percentage of households making more than $150,000
> per year. FindTheBest only included zip codes with
> at least 10,000 residents."
>
> Duh, the survey is produced by Census but is not a
> part of it.
You're quoting one of many third-party articles referencing the study, not the source. Take away is that it's based on Census data.
> And they seem to be sorting by
> income, not wealth. Those are kind of different
> things -- one is a flow and the other is a stock.
> Kind of dumb to get confused by something as
> simple as that.
Obviously. There aren't any very standard sets of metrics like that for individual net worth. On that basis, I'm not sure that any ZIP in NoVA would be near the top of the list.
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> Hmmm...
>
> "The team used data based on the 5-year averages
> from the American Community Survey — a part of
> the U.S. Census Bureau — to sort by the
> percentage of households making more than $150,000
> per year. FindTheBest only included zip codes with
> at least 10,000 residents."
>
> Duh, the survey is produced by Census but is not a
> part of it.
You're quoting one of many third-party articles referencing the study, not the source. Take away is that it's based on Census data.
> And they seem to be sorting by
> income, not wealth. Those are kind of different
> things -- one is a flow and the other is a stock.
> Kind of dumb to get confused by something as
> simple as that.
Obviously. There aren't any very standard sets of metrics like that for individual net worth. On that basis, I'm not sure that any ZIP in NoVA would be near the top of the list.
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
The world is in sad state
()
Date: September 29, 2014 09:56PM
mT9Km Wrote:
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> You're quoting one of many third-party articles
> referencing the study, not the source. Take away
> is that it's based on Census data.
"The source" was not provided. All contemporaneous listings -- including the identical ratings as appear in the OP -- refer back to FindTheBest. Meanwhile, all sorts of ridiculously dumb things can be done with Census data.
> Obviously. There aren't any very standard sets of
> metrics like that for individual net worth.
Yes, there are, but they will not be found in ACS statistics on income.
> On that basis, I'm not sure that any ZIP in NoVA
> would be near the top of the list.
As confused as you are here, how would you have any way of knowing?
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> You're quoting one of many third-party articles
> referencing the study, not the source. Take away
> is that it's based on Census data.
"The source" was not provided. All contemporaneous listings -- including the identical ratings as appear in the OP -- refer back to FindTheBest. Meanwhile, all sorts of ridiculously dumb things can be done with Census data.
> Obviously. There aren't any very standard sets of
> metrics like that for individual net worth.
Yes, there are, but they will not be found in ACS statistics on income.
> On that basis, I'm not sure that any ZIP in NoVA
> would be near the top of the list.
As confused as you are here, how would you have any way of knowing?
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
Like a Fiddle
()
Date: September 29, 2014 10:46PM
The world is in sad state Wrote:
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> mT9Km Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You're quoting one of many third-party articles
> > referencing the study, not the source. Take
> away
> > is that it's based on Census data.
>
> "The source" was not provided. All
> contemporaneous listings -- including the
> identical ratings as appear in the OP -- refer
> back to FindTheBest. Meanwhile, all sorts of
> ridiculously dumb things can be done with Census
> data.
FindTheBest didn't write that. Businessinsider.com.au did in writing about it.
>
> > Obviously. There aren't any very standard sets
> of
> > metrics like that for individual net worth.
>
> Yes, there are, but they will not be found in ACS
> statistics on income.
No, there aren't really. There are various attempts at guesstimation, none of which are very good. For some fairly obvious reasons.
If you want to claim otherwise, then either provide it or STFU.
>
> > On that basis, I'm not sure that any ZIP in
> NoVA
> > would be near the top of the list.
>
> As confused as you are here, how would you have
> any way of knowing?
I knew that you'd be so butthurt that you'd have to respond to this thread. Not much mystery, Actually...
"Oh Where do you come from where do you go
Where do you come from Cotton Eyed Joe..." lol
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> mT9Km Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You're quoting one of many third-party articles
> > referencing the study, not the source. Take
> away
> > is that it's based on Census data.
>
> "The source" was not provided. All
> contemporaneous listings -- including the
> identical ratings as appear in the OP -- refer
> back to FindTheBest. Meanwhile, all sorts of
> ridiculously dumb things can be done with Census
> data.
FindTheBest didn't write that. Businessinsider.com.au did in writing about it.
>
> > Obviously. There aren't any very standard sets
> of
> > metrics like that for individual net worth.
>
> Yes, there are, but they will not be found in ACS
> statistics on income.
No, there aren't really. There are various attempts at guesstimation, none of which are very good. For some fairly obvious reasons.
If you want to claim otherwise, then either provide it or STFU.
>
> > On that basis, I'm not sure that any ZIP in
> NoVA
> > would be near the top of the list.
>
> As confused as you are here, how would you have
> any way of knowing?
I knew that you'd be so butthurt that you'd have to respond to this thread. Not much mystery, Actually...
"Oh Where do you come from where do you go
Where do you come from Cotton Eyed Joe..." lol
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
The world is in sad state
()
Date: September 30, 2014 07:39AM
Like a Fiddle Wrote:
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> FindTheBest didn't write that.
> Businessinsider.com.au did in writing about it.
I don't care who wrote what. Where is your SOURCE for the data? Why did any reports claim to discuss wealth while actually studying only income? That's really pretty stupid.
> No, there aren't really. There are various
> attempts at guesstimation, none of which are
> very good. For some fairly obvious reasons.
You don't know shit from shinola.
> If you want to claim otherwise, then either
> provide it or STFU.
Go search the Fed Reserve data, moron.
> I knew that you'd be so butthurt that you'd have
> to respond to this thread. Not much mystery,
> Actually...
Oh, I get it. You're that kid who got suspended from middle school for using a school computer without authorization. God, are you stupid.
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> FindTheBest didn't write that.
> Businessinsider.com.au did in writing about it.
I don't care who wrote what. Where is your SOURCE for the data? Why did any reports claim to discuss wealth while actually studying only income? That's really pretty stupid.
> No, there aren't really. There are various
> attempts at guesstimation, none of which are
> very good. For some fairly obvious reasons.
You don't know shit from shinola.
> If you want to claim otherwise, then either
> provide it or STFU.
Go search the Fed Reserve data, moron.
> I knew that you'd be so butthurt that you'd have
> to respond to this thread. Not much mystery,
> Actually...
Oh, I get it. You're that kid who got suspended from middle school for using a school computer without authorization. God, are you stupid.
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
overlookingtheobvious
()
Date: September 30, 2014 10:58PM
I wonder how they count "households" in these surveys. Most houses and townhouses in this area have an owner plus possible family plus one or more renter families and/or individuals living in the unused basements and rooms.If they count one owner to one house, the whole survey data table collapses with erroneous information. If they add up the individuals and their incomes plus the owners family all together to get household income, it reflects grossly overstated amounts of income per household if the norm for collecting the data is supposed to reflect one family group per each domicile. I doubt the survey data for household income is correct for mixed areas of large metro areas with high living expenses. No one but the rich live alone in castles and mansions any more!
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
anonymous liberal
()
Date: September 30, 2014 11:08PM
overlookingtheobvious Wrote:
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> I wonder how they count "households" in these surveys.
No, you don't. If you did, you would have long ago gone and looked it up.
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/survey_methodology/acs_design_methodology.pdf
What you would have found of course is that the ACS methodologies are developed and implemented by teams of people who are much, much smarter than you are. They don't make any of the stupid moves that goobers imagine them to.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2014 11:08PM by anonymous liberal.
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> I wonder how they count "households" in these surveys.
No, you don't. If you did, you would have long ago gone and looked it up.
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/survey_methodology/acs_design_methodology.pdf
What you would have found of course is that the ACS methodologies are developed and implemented by teams of people who are much, much smarter than you are. They don't make any of the stupid moves that goobers imagine them to.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/30/2014 11:08PM by anonymous liberal.
Re: Fairfax Station, Great Falls, Potomac, Clarksville, McLean, Clifton $> Vienna
Posted by:
group house
()
Date: October 01, 2014 01:45AM
I have been through 3 censuses here in Nova. In the 2nd and 3rd one, none of the renters in the house would add their info to the form where it gave space for extra people for several reasons. One was that the others in the house, when filling out the section for the extra persons, would get to read every one else's personal information. In another case, the refusing tenant was living in Virginia under the radar to avoid state and local taxes, so he kept his western state driver's licence and never registered for anything in Virginia. He was simply not known to exist.