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Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Joe2
()
Date: July 31, 2014 09:19AM
At present, bills to pass a constitutional admendment to overturn Citizens United are gaining momentum in Congress. They are H.J. Res. 119 (House) and S.J. Res. 19 (Senate). This admendment would simply give Congress and the States the power to regulate money in politics. At present, 48 senators have cosponsored the bill in the Senate and there are 116 cosponsors in the House. If you have ever worried about the negative effect of corruption in politics, now is the time to contact your representatives to urge them to support thiese bills.
For more information, or the exact language of the bills, go to Public Citizen.
Let's get involved. We are slowly losing our democracy.
For more information, or the exact language of the bills, go to Public Citizen.
Let's get involved. We are slowly losing our democracy.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Real Democracy
()
Date: July 31, 2014 10:14AM
Um, yeah. Heard about this. It's a cover for them to decide who has too much political speech and to curtail it.
No thanks. This is something any reasonable person should object to.
No thanks. This is something any reasonable person should object to.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Honestly
()
Date: July 31, 2014 11:02AM
Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people what to do with their money. I don't love the roll of campaign spending in our politics, but how, in America, can the government tell people they can't donate money to something in which they believe.
I presume the amendment, if passed, would exempt labor unions.
I presume the amendment, if passed, would exempt labor unions.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
wJDyP
()
Date: July 31, 2014 11:20AM
Honestly Wrote:
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> Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people what to
> do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> campaign spending in our politics, but how, in
> America, can the government tell people they can't
> donate money to something in which they believe.
>
> I presume the amendment, if passed, would exempt
> labor unions.
I think they are trying to preserve what democracy we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just an Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at China to see what all that deregulation will do for your water and air.
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> Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people what to
> do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> campaign spending in our politics, but how, in
> America, can the government tell people they can't
> donate money to something in which they believe.
>
> I presume the amendment, if passed, would exempt
> labor unions.
I think they are trying to preserve what democracy we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just an Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at China to see what all that deregulation will do for your water and air.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Lois Lerner
()
Date: July 31, 2014 11:46AM
Don't worry, I got this.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Honestly
()
Date: July 31, 2014 01:23PM
wJDyP Wrote:
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> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people what
> to
> > do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> > campaign spending in our politics, but how, in
> > America, can the government tell people they
> can't
> > donate money to something in which they
> believe.
> >
> > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> exempt
> > labor unions.
>
> I think they are trying to preserve what democracy
> we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just an
> Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at
> China to see what all that deregulation will do
> for your water and air.
Again, I think large expenditures are potentially corrupting. But our country is based on freedom. You assert that $$=votes but that is not a truism. Many well-funded and self-funded campaigns have spent enormous amounts of money and lost.
Deregulation is not the cause of water and air pollution in China. It was horrible before deregulation. The Soviet Union was highly regulated and suffered from terrible environmental destruction.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people what
> to
> > do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> > campaign spending in our politics, but how, in
> > America, can the government tell people they
> can't
> > donate money to something in which they
> believe.
> >
> > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> exempt
> > labor unions.
>
> I think they are trying to preserve what democracy
> we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just an
> Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at
> China to see what all that deregulation will do
> for your water and air.
Again, I think large expenditures are potentially corrupting. But our country is based on freedom. You assert that $$=votes but that is not a truism. Many well-funded and self-funded campaigns have spent enormous amounts of money and lost.
Deregulation is not the cause of water and air pollution in China. It was horrible before deregulation. The Soviet Union was highly regulated and suffered from terrible environmental destruction.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Honest Democracy
()
Date: July 31, 2014 01:27PM
Honestly Wrote:
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> wJDyP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Honestly Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people
> what
> > to
> > > do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> > > campaign spending in our politics, but how,
> in
> > > America, can the government tell people they
> > can't
> > > donate money to something in which they
> > believe.
> > >
> > > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> > exempt
> > > labor unions.
> >
> > I think they are trying to preserve what
> democracy
> > we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just
> an
> > Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at
> > China to see what all that deregulation will do
> > for your water and air.
>
> Again, I think large expenditures are potentially
> corrupting. But our country is based on freedom.
> You assert that $$=votes but that is not a truism.
> Many well-funded and self-funded campaigns have
> spent enormous amounts of money and lost.
>
> Deregulation is not the cause of water and air
> pollution in China. It was horrible before
> deregulation. The Soviet Union was highly
> regulated and suffered from terrible environmental
> destruction.
Good points.
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> wJDyP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Honestly Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people
> what
> > to
> > > do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> > > campaign spending in our politics, but how,
> in
> > > America, can the government tell people they
> > can't
> > > donate money to something in which they
> > believe.
> > >
> > > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> > exempt
> > > labor unions.
> >
> > I think they are trying to preserve what
> democracy
> > we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just
> an
> > Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at
> > China to see what all that deregulation will do
> > for your water and air.
>
> Again, I think large expenditures are potentially
> corrupting. But our country is based on freedom.
> You assert that $$=votes but that is not a truism.
> Many well-funded and self-funded campaigns have
> spent enormous amounts of money and lost.
>
> Deregulation is not the cause of water and air
> pollution in China. It was horrible before
> deregulation. The Soviet Union was highly
> regulated and suffered from terrible environmental
> destruction.
Good points.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
libs hate America.
()
Date: July 31, 2014 01:38PM
simple you dumbfucks!
just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
we should welcome oil and cvorporations making the laws of our land
just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
we should welcome oil and cvorporations making the laws of our land
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
(R)etard alert
()
Date: July 31, 2014 02:17PM
Honest Democracy Wrote:
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> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > wJDyP Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Honestly Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people
> > what
> > > to
> > > > do with their money. I don't love the roll
> of
> > > > campaign spending in our politics, but how,
> > in
> > > > America, can the government tell people
> they
> > > can't
> > > > donate money to something in which they
> > > believe.
> > > >
> > > > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> > > exempt
> > > > labor unions.
> > >
> > > I think they are trying to preserve what
> > democracy
> > > we have left. If $$ = votes then this is
> just
> > an
> > > Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at
> > > China to see what all that deregulation will
> do
> > > for your water and air.
> >
> > Again, I think large expenditures are
> potentially
> > corrupting. But our country is based on
> freedom.
> > You assert that $$=votes but that is not a
> truism.
> > Many well-funded and self-funded campaigns have
> > spent enormous amounts of money and lost.
> >
> > Deregulation is not the cause of water and air
> > pollution in China. It was horrible before
> > deregulation. The Soviet Union was highly
> > regulated and suffered from terrible
> environmental
> > destruction.
>
> Good points.
Lol no they aren't. Russian industrialism was never well regulated. Thats just revisionist history.
Tell David Koch he's winning in remaking the reality of industry in the world.
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> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > wJDyP Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Honestly Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people
> > what
> > > to
> > > > do with their money. I don't love the roll
> of
> > > > campaign spending in our politics, but how,
> > in
> > > > America, can the government tell people
> they
> > > can't
> > > > donate money to something in which they
> > > believe.
> > > >
> > > > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> > > exempt
> > > > labor unions.
> > >
> > > I think they are trying to preserve what
> > democracy
> > > we have left. If $$ = votes then this is
> just
> > an
> > > Oligarchy (which it mostly is). Just look at
> > > China to see what all that deregulation will
> do
> > > for your water and air.
> >
> > Again, I think large expenditures are
> potentially
> > corrupting. But our country is based on
> freedom.
> > You assert that $$=votes but that is not a
> truism.
> > Many well-funded and self-funded campaigns have
> > spent enormous amounts of money and lost.
> >
> > Deregulation is not the cause of water and air
> > pollution in China. It was horrible before
> > deregulation. The Soviet Union was highly
> > regulated and suffered from terrible
> environmental
> > destruction.
>
> Good points.
Lol no they aren't. Russian industrialism was never well regulated. Thats just revisionist history.
Tell David Koch he's winning in remaking the reality of industry in the world.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Lib-o-crites
()
Date: July 31, 2014 02:25PM
Sponsored by Democracy Alliance - a bunch of rich old white liberal billionaires who want money out of politics. Except for their own. lmao
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
mLVuy
()
Date: July 31, 2014 05:34PM
libs hate America. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> simple you dumbfucks!
>
> just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES
> policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
>
> we should welcome oil and cvorporations making the
> laws of our land
+1000 our job creators ARE the ones that should make the laws of our land. They create us and I trust them. Why does everybody equate large corporations with profit motive? We all know that rich democrats are the ones trying to steal money for themselves because they are selfish and want to then give it to people in need motive, thing...
Anyway back to my point it is Corporations that should use as much money as they want to elect our leaders because that is good.
-------------------------------------------------------
> simple you dumbfucks!
>
> just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES
> policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
>
> we should welcome oil and cvorporations making the
> laws of our land
+1000 our job creators ARE the ones that should make the laws of our land. They create us and I trust them. Why does everybody equate large corporations with profit motive? We all know that rich democrats are the ones trying to steal money for themselves because they are selfish and want to then give it to people in need motive, thing...
Anyway back to my point it is Corporations that should use as much money as they want to elect our leaders because that is good.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
So No Union Money?
()
Date: July 31, 2014 11:08PM
wJDyP Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people what
> to
> > do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> > campaign spending in our politics, but how, in
> > America, can the government tell people they
> can't
> > donate money to something in which they
> believe.
> >
> > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> exempt
> > labor unions.
>
> I think they are trying to preserve what democracy
> we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just an
> Oligarchy (which it mostly
So the amendment would prohibit Union money? That was the impetus for corporate giving in the first place.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do liberals ALWAYS want to tell people what
> to
> > do with their money. I don't love the roll of
> > campaign spending in our politics, but how, in
> > America, can the government tell people they
> can't
> > donate money to something in which they
> believe.
> >
> > I presume the amendment, if passed, would
> exempt
> > labor unions.
>
> I think they are trying to preserve what democracy
> we have left. If $$ = votes then this is just an
> Oligarchy (which it mostly
So the amendment would prohibit Union money? That was the impetus for corporate giving in the first place.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Guy Fakes
()
Date: August 01, 2014 01:46AM
mLVuy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> libs hate America. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > simple you dumbfucks!
> >
> > just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES
> > policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
> >
> > we should welcome oil and cvorporations making
> the
> > laws of our land
>
>
> +1000 our job creators ARE the ones that should
> make the laws of our land. They create us and I
> trust them. Why does everybody equate large
> corporations with profit motive? We all know that
> rich democrats are the ones trying to steal money
> for themselves because they are selfish and want
> to then give it to people in need motive,
> thing...
>
> Anyway back to my point it is Corporations that
> should use as much money as they want to elect our
> leaders because that is good.
How libertarian of you, you temporarily embarrased millionaire. I have never understood why so many broke ass fucks can't wait to carry their water and suck corporate cock as long as its not the government. A classic case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
-------------------------------------------------------
> libs hate America. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > simple you dumbfucks!
> >
> > just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES
> > policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
> >
> > we should welcome oil and cvorporations making
> the
> > laws of our land
>
>
> +1000 our job creators ARE the ones that should
> make the laws of our land. They create us and I
> trust them. Why does everybody equate large
> corporations with profit motive? We all know that
> rich democrats are the ones trying to steal money
> for themselves because they are selfish and want
> to then give it to people in need motive,
> thing...
>
> Anyway back to my point it is Corporations that
> should use as much money as they want to elect our
> leaders because that is good.
How libertarian of you, you temporarily embarrased millionaire. I have never understood why so many broke ass fucks can't wait to carry their water and suck corporate cock as long as its not the government. A classic case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
Ralph Nader
()
Date: August 01, 2014 03:00AM
Trust me it's a not for profit and I am looking out for you.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
vcWyD
()
Date: August 01, 2014 09:38AM
Guy Fakes Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> mLVuy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > libs hate America. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > simple you dumbfucks!
> > >
> > > just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES
> > > policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
> > >
> > > we should welcome oil and cvorporations
> making
> > the
> > > laws of our land
> >
> >
> > +1000 our job creators ARE the ones that should
> > make the laws of our land. They create us and
> I
> > trust them. Why does everybody equate large
> > corporations with profit motive? We all know
> that
> > rich democrats are the ones trying to steal
> money
> > for themselves because they are selfish and
> want
> > to then give it to people in need motive,
> > thing...
> >
> > Anyway back to my point it is Corporations that
> > should use as much money as they want to elect
> our
> > leaders because that is good.
>
> How libertarian of you, you temporarily embarrased
> millionaire. I have never understood why so many
> broke ass fucks can't wait to carry their water
> and suck corporate cock as long as its not the
> government. A classic case of the enemy of my
> enemy is my friend.
...I think +1000 was being sarcastic.
-------------------------------------------------------
> mLVuy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > libs hate America. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > simple you dumbfucks!
> > >
> > > just because $$ buys politicians and FORCES
> > > policy, does nto mean it is a bad thing
> > >
> > > we should welcome oil and cvorporations
> making
> > the
> > > laws of our land
> >
> >
> > +1000 our job creators ARE the ones that should
> > make the laws of our land. They create us and
> I
> > trust them. Why does everybody equate large
> > corporations with profit motive? We all know
> that
> > rich democrats are the ones trying to steal
> money
> > for themselves because they are selfish and
> want
> > to then give it to people in need motive,
> > thing...
> >
> > Anyway back to my point it is Corporations that
> > should use as much money as they want to elect
> our
> > leaders because that is good.
>
> How libertarian of you, you temporarily embarrased
> millionaire. I have never understood why so many
> broke ass fucks can't wait to carry their water
> and suck corporate cock as long as its not the
> government. A classic case of the enemy of my
> enemy is my friend.
...I think +1000 was being sarcastic.
Re: Democracy is for People Admendment
Posted by:
epwkD
()
Date: August 01, 2014 03:00PM
term limits apply to county executives, ammendment
strict penalties and reviews of abuse of authority esp. spending and loans, ammendment
bar against foreigners and out of state polititians raping money out of our area into their own or foreign backs - and maybe death penalty for those caught, ammendment
bringing back the death penalty for judges caught politically favoring gov unions to stalk denizens and set their own pay, ammendment
strict penalties and reviews of abuse of authority esp. spending and loans, ammendment
bar against foreigners and out of state polititians raping money out of our area into their own or foreign backs - and maybe death penalty for those caught, ammendment
bringing back the death penalty for judges caught politically favoring gov unions to stalk denizens and set their own pay, ammendment