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Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
No More Unemployment Benefits
()
Date: December 31, 2013 08:57AM
Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Congress may revisit the issue when they return from recess.
http://fairfaxcity.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/nearly-10000-in-virginia-lose-unemployment-benefits-fairfaxcity
While the overall employment picture is good in Northern Virginia, compared to the rest of the country, the Commonwealth saw 9,700 people lose their long-term federal unemployment benefits Saturday, which are the benefits that kick in after Virginia unemployment benefits have expired.
The average weekly unemployment benefits check for Virginia residents is $296.95.
Across the entire country, 1.3 million Americans were expected to immediately lose their long-term federal unemployment insurance coverage Saturday.
Why? Congress passed a budget compromise before Christmas that did not include extending the federal Emergency Unemployment Compensation program.
"No one got everything they wanted out of this deal," Congressman Gerry Connolly (D-11th) said in a statement. "Indeed, I along with many of my colleagues would have preferred to see an extension of long-term unemployment benefits, which has a very direct and significant benefit on more than 1 million families and our national and local economies."
"Every dollar of assistance generates $1.64 in economic activity in the community," he continued. "Sadly, it was not addressed here, but we will continue to push the Speaker to bring it up separately to help those still struggling to find work."
The federal program was started in June of 2008, when Congress approved a 13-week extension. In Virginia, it added on to its 26 weeks of unemployment; the length of time varies by state.
As the recession got worse, Congress passed additional expansions. But those expansions are gone as of Saturday.
The Congressional Budget Office estimates by not renewing the program, the country will see a savings of $25 billion a year.
Now in Virginia, instead of getting 40 weeks of unemployment insurance, Virginians will go back to getting just 26 weeks, unless Congress decides to revisit extending long-term unemployment benefits when they return to Washington this coming Friday.
In Virginia an additional 31,800 people are set to lose their unemployment benefits in the first six months of 2014 when they hit the 26-weeks mark, according to Democrats on the U.S. House Ways and Means Committee.
President Obama is pushing to renew the program. Gene Sperling, the director of Obama's National Economic Council, said this week, "Never before have we abruptly cut off emergency unemployment insurance when we faced this level of long-term unemployment, and it would be a blow to these families and our economy."
Sperling noted that Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) and Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) "have put forward bipartisan legislation to extend emergency unemployment insurance for three months, which would prevent these 1.3 million workers and their families from losing benefits while giving more time for consideration of further extension through 2014, and Leader (Harry) Reid will bring it to a vote as soon as they return."
The unemployment rate for Virginia is currently 5.4 percent. In October in Fairfax County, the rate was 4.1 percent, and in Falls Church, 7.1 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The U.S. unemployment figure is 7 percent—though some say it's even higher, with some people giving up entirely on getting a job.
If you live in Northern Virginia and have questions about unemployment insurance in Virginia, you can stop by the Virginia Employment Commission at 5520 Cherokee Ave., Alexandria, or call 703-813-1300.
For other assistance, see information here on local food pantries and social services by location in Northern Virginia. You can also call Department of Family Services at 703-324-7500.
What do you think of Congress saving the country around $25 billion a year by cutting off federal long-term unemployment assistance?
Attachments:
Congress may revisit the issue when they return from recess.
http://fairfaxcity.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/nearly-10000-in-virginia-lose-unemployment-benefits-fairfaxcity
While the overall employment picture is good in Northern Virginia, compared to the rest of the country, the Commonwealth saw 9,700 people lose their long-term federal unemployment benefits Saturday, which are the benefits that kick in after Virginia unemployment benefits have expired.
The average weekly unemployment benefits check for Virginia residents is $296.95.
Across the entire country, 1.3 million Americans were expected to immediately lose their long-term federal unemployment insurance coverage Saturday.
Why? Congress passed a budget compromise before Christmas that did not include extending the federal Emergency Unemployment Compensation program.
"No one got everything they wanted out of this deal," Congressman Gerry Connolly (D-11th) said in a statement. "Indeed, I along with many of my colleagues would have preferred to see an extension of long-term unemployment benefits, which has a very direct and significant benefit on more than 1 million families and our national and local economies."
"Every dollar of assistance generates $1.64 in economic activity in the community," he continued. "Sadly, it was not addressed here, but we will continue to push the Speaker to bring it up separately to help those still struggling to find work."
The federal program was started in June of 2008, when Congress approved a 13-week extension. In Virginia, it added on to its 26 weeks of unemployment; the length of time varies by state.
As the recession got worse, Congress passed additional expansions. But those expansions are gone as of Saturday.
The Congressional Budget Office estimates by not renewing the program, the country will see a savings of $25 billion a year.
Now in Virginia, instead of getting 40 weeks of unemployment insurance, Virginians will go back to getting just 26 weeks, unless Congress decides to revisit extending long-term unemployment benefits when they return to Washington this coming Friday.
In Virginia an additional 31,800 people are set to lose their unemployment benefits in the first six months of 2014 when they hit the 26-weeks mark, according to Democrats on the U.S. House Ways and Means Committee.
President Obama is pushing to renew the program. Gene Sperling, the director of Obama's National Economic Council, said this week, "Never before have we abruptly cut off emergency unemployment insurance when we faced this level of long-term unemployment, and it would be a blow to these families and our economy."
Sperling noted that Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) and Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.) "have put forward bipartisan legislation to extend emergency unemployment insurance for three months, which would prevent these 1.3 million workers and their families from losing benefits while giving more time for consideration of further extension through 2014, and Leader (Harry) Reid will bring it to a vote as soon as they return."
The unemployment rate for Virginia is currently 5.4 percent. In October in Fairfax County, the rate was 4.1 percent, and in Falls Church, 7.1 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The U.S. unemployment figure is 7 percent—though some say it's even higher, with some people giving up entirely on getting a job.
If you live in Northern Virginia and have questions about unemployment insurance in Virginia, you can stop by the Virginia Employment Commission at 5520 Cherokee Ave., Alexandria, or call 703-813-1300.
For other assistance, see information here on local food pantries and social services by location in Northern Virginia. You can also call Department of Family Services at 703-324-7500.
What do you think of Congress saving the country around $25 billion a year by cutting off federal long-term unemployment assistance?
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Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Oh no. Libs will have to work.
()
Date: December 31, 2013 09:02AM
Good lord! Oh no! What will the libs do? Dare I say, get a job? Holy shit! What a great idea.
I mean at the most you don't even get $300 a week from unemployment. Why does the government even bother. If somebody can't make more than $300 a week in NOVA they have serious problems and are probably already on disability or medicaid or some other freebie liberal handout.
Fuck them! Work.
I mean at the most you don't even get $300 a week from unemployment. Why does the government even bother. If somebody can't make more than $300 a week in NOVA they have serious problems and are probably already on disability or medicaid or some other freebie liberal handout.
Fuck them! Work.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
no more blogging for libs
()
Date: December 31, 2013 09:06AM
Oh no. Libs will have to work. Wrote:
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> Good lord! Oh no! What will the libs do? Dare I
> say, get a job? Holy shit! What a great idea.
> I mean at the most you don't even get $300 a week
> from unemployment. Why does the government even
> bother. If somebody can't make more than $300 a
> week in NOVA they have serious problems and are
> probably already on disability or medicaid or some
> other freebie liberal handout.
> Fuck them! Work.
+100
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> Good lord! Oh no! What will the libs do? Dare I
> say, get a job? Holy shit! What a great idea.
> I mean at the most you don't even get $300 a week
> from unemployment. Why does the government even
> bother. If somebody can't make more than $300 a
> week in NOVA they have serious problems and are
> probably already on disability or medicaid or some
> other freebie liberal handout.
> Fuck them! Work.
+100
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
column zero
()
Date: December 31, 2013 09:12AM
I see a kid with Downs working at the grocery store and he does a damn good job bringing in the carts and bagging stuff. If this kid can work then why the hell cant these lazy ass slugs find a job.
99 weeks and they cannot find a job, give me a break.
99 weeks and they cannot find a job, give me a break.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
hey faggot OP
()
Date: December 31, 2013 09:29AM
Final warning: keep this shit out of Fairfax General or you will be banned. THIS TYPE OF SHIT POST ONLY BELONGS IN OFF TOPIC.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Whiny liberal
()
Date: December 31, 2013 09:33AM
hey faggot OP Wrote:
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> Final warning: keep this shit out of Fairfax
> General or you will be banned. THIS TYPE OF SHIT
> POST ONLY BELONGS IN OFF TOPIC.
Attachments:
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> Final warning: keep this shit out of Fairfax
> General or you will be banned. THIS TYPE OF SHIT
> POST ONLY BELONGS IN OFF TOPIC.
Attachments:
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
naive
()
Date: December 31, 2013 10:10AM
column zero Wrote:
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> I see a kid with Downs working at the grocery
> store and he does a damn good job bringing in the
> carts and bagging stuff. If this kid can work then
> why the hell cant these lazy ass slugs find a job.
>
>
> 99 weeks and they cannot find a job, give me a
> break.
Do you think that Downs kid walked into that grocery store, applied for a job, and they hjred him? Not a chance. The taxpayers are paying that grocery store to employ him.
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> I see a kid with Downs working at the grocery
> store and he does a damn good job bringing in the
> carts and bagging stuff. If this kid can work then
> why the hell cant these lazy ass slugs find a job.
>
>
> 99 weeks and they cannot find a job, give me a
> break.
Do you think that Downs kid walked into that grocery store, applied for a job, and they hjred him? Not a chance. The taxpayers are paying that grocery store to employ him.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
column zero
()
Date: December 31, 2013 10:25AM
naive Wrote:
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> Do you think that Downs kid walked into that
> grocery store, applied for a job, and they hjred
> him? Not a chance. The taxpayers are paying that
> grocery store to employ him.
How do you know his mom didnt go in there with him when he applied? Show me where the taxpayers are the ones cutting the kid a check and not the grocery store. Last point which seems lost on you is he is WORKING. The stores always has ads up wanting help. I guess the reason I see all these help wanted signs is I am not sitting at home all day collecting a free check.
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> Do you think that Downs kid walked into that
> grocery store, applied for a job, and they hjred
> him? Not a chance. The taxpayers are paying that
> grocery store to employ him.
How do you know his mom didnt go in there with him when he applied? Show me where the taxpayers are the ones cutting the kid a check and not the grocery store. Last point which seems lost on you is he is WORKING. The stores always has ads up wanting help. I guess the reason I see all these help wanted signs is I am not sitting at home all day collecting a free check.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Another worthless FCPS wonder
()
Date: December 31, 2013 10:28AM
hey faggot OP Wrote:
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> Final warning: keep this shit out of Fairfax
> General or you will be banned. THIS TYPE OF SHIT
> POST ONLY BELONGS IN OFF TOPIC.
How is this off-topic? It clearly mentions the figures for Fairfax County and Falls Church...
"The unemployment rate for Virginia is currently 5.4 percent. In October in Fairfax County, the rate was 4.1 percent, and in Falls Church, 7.1 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The U.S. unemployment figure is 7 percent—though some say it's even higher, with some people giving up entirely on getting a job."
Learn to READ or GTFU!
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> Final warning: keep this shit out of Fairfax
> General or you will be banned. THIS TYPE OF SHIT
> POST ONLY BELONGS IN OFF TOPIC.
How is this off-topic? It clearly mentions the figures for Fairfax County and Falls Church...
"The unemployment rate for Virginia is currently 5.4 percent. In October in Fairfax County, the rate was 4.1 percent, and in Falls Church, 7.1 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The U.S. unemployment figure is 7 percent—though some say it's even higher, with some people giving up entirely on getting a job."
Learn to READ or GTFU!
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
naive
()
Date: December 31, 2013 10:46AM
column zero Wrote:
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> naive Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Do you think that Downs kid walked into that
> > grocery store, applied for a job, and they
> hjred
> > him? Not a chance. The taxpayers are paying
> that
> > grocery store to employ him.
>
> How do you know his mom didnt go in there with him
> when he applied? Show me where the taxpayers are
> the ones cutting the kid a check and not the
> grocery store. Last point which seems lost on you
> is he is WORKING. The stores always has ads up
> wanting help. I guess the reason I see all these
> help wanted signs is I am not sitting at home all
> day collecting a free check.
I imagine his mom did go with him. She also filled out the government program forms.
The government cuts the store a check and the store cuts the kid his paycheck. And there is probably some schnook in the middle taking a cut.
Look, I'm not saying this is a bad program. It's certainly better than paying slugs to do nothing. I'm just saying there's more to it than meets the eye.
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> naive Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Do you think that Downs kid walked into that
> > grocery store, applied for a job, and they
> hjred
> > him? Not a chance. The taxpayers are paying
> that
> > grocery store to employ him.
>
> How do you know his mom didnt go in there with him
> when he applied? Show me where the taxpayers are
> the ones cutting the kid a check and not the
> grocery store. Last point which seems lost on you
> is he is WORKING. The stores always has ads up
> wanting help. I guess the reason I see all these
> help wanted signs is I am not sitting at home all
> day collecting a free check.
I imagine his mom did go with him. She also filled out the government program forms.
The government cuts the store a check and the store cuts the kid his paycheck. And there is probably some schnook in the middle taking a cut.
Look, I'm not saying this is a bad program. It's certainly better than paying slugs to do nothing. I'm just saying there's more to it than meets the eye.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Builder
()
Date: December 31, 2013 11:32AM
I run a small business in the construction industry. I was forced to lay off most of my employees during the downturn several years ago but I have stayed in touch with them. As business has begun to bounce back, I have offered many of them jobs and several (all low skilled laborers) have turned me down because they'd rather stay at home and collect benefits. They have been out of work for over 2 years and are still collecting. I want to hire them back and they won't take it! Crazy system we have. Rewarding people who don't want to work.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
kulp
()
Date: December 31, 2013 12:40PM
Builder Wrote:
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> I run a small business in the construction
> industry. I was forced to lay off most of my
> employees during the downturn several years ago
> but I have stayed in touch with them. As business
> has begun to bounce back, I have offered many of
> them jobs and several (all low skilled laborers)
> have turned me down because they'd rather stay at
> home and collect benefits. They have been out of
> work for over 2 years and are still collecting. I
> want to hire them back and they won't take it!
> Crazy system we have. Rewarding people who don't
> want to work.
Indeed it is a crazy system BUT I can't say I really blame them for taking advantage of it. I'm retired, but if I had a choice between busting my ass for some dude that will dump me again in a heartbeat and a (likely larger) unemployment check for doing nothing, I might go for the unemployment check.
But hey, call 'em now, they might be ready to come back.
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> I run a small business in the construction
> industry. I was forced to lay off most of my
> employees during the downturn several years ago
> but I have stayed in touch with them. As business
> has begun to bounce back, I have offered many of
> them jobs and several (all low skilled laborers)
> have turned me down because they'd rather stay at
> home and collect benefits. They have been out of
> work for over 2 years and are still collecting. I
> want to hire them back and they won't take it!
> Crazy system we have. Rewarding people who don't
> want to work.
Indeed it is a crazy system BUT I can't say I really blame them for taking advantage of it. I'm retired, but if I had a choice between busting my ass for some dude that will dump me again in a heartbeat and a (likely larger) unemployment check for doing nothing, I might go for the unemployment check.
But hey, call 'em now, they might be ready to come back.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
9Wwme
()
Date: December 31, 2013 12:53PM
Unemployment benefits paid past 13 weeks is WELFARE.
Get a job.
Get a job.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Efox
()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:08PM
I was on unemployment for nearly two months after being employed for seven straight years (right out college) and the check didn't even begin to cover what I was making and I was getting the maximum allowed for VA. Yes, it paid the bills, but left little else for things like gas/metro (which you need to use if you are interviewing at places). The thing about it is that your supposed to be looking for a job while you're getting it and you're supposed to be reporting who you applied to so the VEC can check behind you. I don't know if the ever checked behind me, but I didn't want to be on umeployment forever. Eventually, I got a part time job making a little more than my employment check, but a job nonetheless. I don't have enough to pay rent cause earning a check requires you to wait two weeks, but lucky for me my boyfriend owns a restaurant in DC and has the money for rent. But, I can understand how it is easy to fall into the umemployment trap cause being umeployment is a hit to your self esteem and you carry that into every interview and people don't want to hire a person who is over eager for the job or is unemployed even if at no fault of their own. My new job doesn't pay as much as my old job and is part time, but I use this opportunity to use that time to go back to school to get my MBA. If you are umeployed use the time to get an education to make yourself more desirable to employers and you can use that as a reason for being unemployed instead I fot fired/layed off/whatever. I can't spectulate on why one would choose to remain unemployed cause I don't like to judge, but if you want a job then a job you will get, but you have to LOOK.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Obamas America
()
Date: December 31, 2013 01:08PM
kulp Wrote:
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Indeed it is a crazy system BUT I can't say I
> really blame them for taking advantage of it. I'm
> retired, but if I had a choice between busting my
> ass for some dude that will dump me again in a
> heartbeat and a (likely larger) unemployment check
> for doing nothing, I might go for the unemployment
> check.
>
> But hey, call 'em now, they might be ready to come
> back.
Prob not there are inside ways to extend the checks for up to five years.
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Indeed it is a crazy system BUT I can't say I
> really blame them for taking advantage of it. I'm
> retired, but if I had a choice between busting my
> ass for some dude that will dump me again in a
> heartbeat and a (likely larger) unemployment check
> for doing nothing, I might go for the unemployment
> check.
>
> But hey, call 'em now, they might be ready to come
> back.
Prob not there are inside ways to extend the checks for up to five years.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
MrManager987
()
Date: December 31, 2013 04:01PM
Efox Wrote:
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> but lucky for me my boyfriend owns a restaurant in DC and has the
> money for rent.
> I use this opportunity to use that time to go back to school
> to get my MBA. If you are umeployed use the time
> to get an education to make yourself more
> desirable to employers and you can use that as a
> reason for being unemployed instead I fot
> fired/layed off/whatever. I can't spectulate on
> why one would choose to remain unemployed cause I
> don't like to judge, but if you want a job then a
> job you will get, but you have to LOOK.
Just what the world needs another MBA from a no name school. Did you also get a PMP? Did they teach you about spell check in MBA school?
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> but lucky for me my boyfriend owns a restaurant in DC and has the
> money for rent.
> I use this opportunity to use that time to go back to school
> to get my MBA. If you are umeployed use the time
> to get an education to make yourself more
> desirable to employers and you can use that as a
> reason for being unemployed instead I fot
> fired/layed off/whatever. I can't spectulate on
> why one would choose to remain unemployed cause I
> don't like to judge, but if you want a job then a
> job you will get, but you have to LOOK.
Just what the world needs another MBA from a no name school. Did you also get a PMP? Did they teach you about spell check in MBA school?
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
it's a show
()
Date: December 31, 2013 04:18PM
This country has gone to shit. You are witnessing the result of unchecked capitalism and a government which is primarily beholden to corporate interests. Are you enjoying the american dream yet?
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Ayn Rand
()
Date: December 31, 2013 05:07PM
it's a show Wrote:
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> This country has gone to shit. You are witnessing
> the result of unchecked capitalism and a
> government which is primarily beholden to
> corporate interests. Are you enjoying the american
> dream yet?
Yeah, it's just awful that you may end up having to work for a living rather than leeching off productive society. What's this country come to?
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> This country has gone to shit. You are witnessing
> the result of unchecked capitalism and a
> government which is primarily beholden to
> corporate interests. Are you enjoying the american
> dream yet?
Yeah, it's just awful that you may end up having to work for a living rather than leeching off productive society. What's this country come to?
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Atlas Shrugged
()
Date: December 31, 2013 05:44PM
Ayn Rand Wrote:
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>
> Yeah, it's just awful that you may end up having
> to work for a living rather than leeching off
> productive society. What's this country come to?
Yes, that is sad. How can someone get so lazy and just expect to leech? As to criticizing corporations being culprits, that is a farce too. If it were not for corporations, where would most of the higher-paying jobs come from? Not everyone can work for the U.S. Government as a GS-14 or GS-15. It just isn't possible.
America is in vacuum. Yet, it's really starting to suck. The "other" side who doesn't embrace capitalism, yet embraces socialism is most likely curious as to why the supply of higher paying jobs are going away. They think they'll have the cherry-picked dream life with large government control running many facets of their lives. Such delusions they have!
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>
> Yeah, it's just awful that you may end up having
> to work for a living rather than leeching off
> productive society. What's this country come to?
Yes, that is sad. How can someone get so lazy and just expect to leech? As to criticizing corporations being culprits, that is a farce too. If it were not for corporations, where would most of the higher-paying jobs come from? Not everyone can work for the U.S. Government as a GS-14 or GS-15. It just isn't possible.
America is in vacuum. Yet, it's really starting to suck. The "other" side who doesn't embrace capitalism, yet embraces socialism is most likely curious as to why the supply of higher paying jobs are going away. They think they'll have the cherry-picked dream life with large government control running many facets of their lives. Such delusions they have!
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
your american fantasy
()
Date: December 31, 2013 07:02PM
wow, that old conservative echo chamber is really fucking loud in this thread. no matter. you dumbfucks are quickly going the way of the Romans. enjoy your demise, bitches.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
BS Detector
()
Date: December 31, 2013 07:12PM
Obamas America Wrote:
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> Prob not there are inside ways to extend the
> checks for up to five years.
No, there aren't.
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> Prob not there are inside ways to extend the
> checks for up to five years.
No, there aren't.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Lance Brofman
()
Date: January 02, 2014 10:11AM
Unlike food stamp and welfare recipients, many unemployed people (all of which previously held jobs) are Republicans. If the news media shows one person saying: that he had always voted Republican but if the House leadership does not allow a vote on extension of unemployment benefits he will never vote for a Republican again, the Republican will cave as 1.3 million voters could be a critical in the next election. The joke used to be that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. The new version will be a Democrat is a Republican who had his unemployment benefits ended. "..It is not just a coincidence that tax cuts for the rich have preceded both the 1929 and 2007 depressions. The Revenue acts of 1926 and 1928 worked exactly as the Republican Congresses that pushed them through promised. The dramatic reductions in taxes on the upper income brackets and estates of the wealthy did indeed result in increased savings and investment. However, overinvestment (by 1929 there were over 600 automobile manufacturing companies in the USA) caused the depression that made the rich, and most everyone else, ultimately much poorer. Since 1969 there has been a tremendous shift in the tax burdens away from the rich and onto the middle class. Corporate income tax receipts, whose incidence falls entirely on the owners of corporations, were 4% of GDP then and are now less than 1%. During that same period, payroll tax rates as percent of GDP have increased dramatically. The overinvestment problem caused by the reduction in taxes on the wealthy is exacerbated by the increased tax burden on the middle class. While overinvestment creates more factories, housing and shopping centers; higher payroll taxes reduces the purchasing power of middle-class consumers.." http://seekingalpha.com/article/1543642
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Get Your Facts Straight
()
Date: January 02, 2014 10:22AM
Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3 months is a democrat, by definition, unless they are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches = democrats, period, end of story.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Two Cents
()
Date: January 02, 2014 10:45AM
Get Your Facts Straight Wrote:
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> Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> months is a democrat, by definition, unless they
> are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches =
> democrats, period, end of story.
If you were making a good salary when you lost your job, sometimes unemployment is the only option because it will rake you in more cash than say working full time in a supermarket, etc. But yes, anything longer than 3 months is ridiculous.
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> Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> months is a democrat, by definition, unless they
> are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches =
> democrats, period, end of story.
If you were making a good salary when you lost your job, sometimes unemployment is the only option because it will rake you in more cash than say working full time in a supermarket, etc. But yes, anything longer than 3 months is ridiculous.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: January 02, 2014 11:07AM
Get Your Facts Straight Wrote:
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> Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> months is a democrat, by definition, unless they
> are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches =
> democrats, period, end of story.
You heard it from Rush, Sean or Glenn so it must be true.
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> Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> months is a democrat, by definition, unless they
> are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches =
> democrats, period, end of story.
You heard it from Rush, Sean or Glenn so it must be true.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Bull
()
Date: January 02, 2014 04:00PM
Get Your Facts Straight Wrote:
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> Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> months is a democrat, by definition, unless they
> are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches =
> democrats, period, end of story.
You're an idiot. A closed minded, uninformed idiot. Like most of your kind.
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> Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> months is a democrat, by definition, unless they
> are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches =
> democrats, period, end of story.
You're an idiot. A closed minded, uninformed idiot. Like most of your kind.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Rob Roy.
()
Date: January 02, 2014 04:36PM
I blame corporations for their greed causing people to be unemployed. But then how could they be unemployed if they had jobs in the first place. Oh well I am a liberal I dont have to make sense.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
TaxPayer
()
Date: January 02, 2014 04:49PM
So, people who aren't working don't get paid. I don't see a problem with that. Why should the taxes I PAY to go people who aren't working? Is it my fault they're not working? Why do I have to pay for someone else?
There are PLENTY of jobs in the DC area. Most of the people on unemployment are simply too lazy to work. Instead of working hard they feel entitled. Welcome to the new generation of lazy-ass Americans.
There are PLENTY of jobs in the DC area. Most of the people on unemployment are simply too lazy to work. Instead of working hard they feel entitled. Welcome to the new generation of lazy-ass Americans.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
exffx
()
Date: January 02, 2014 05:26PM
I wonder how many people collecting unemployment work jobs for cash.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: January 02, 2014 07:41PM
TaxPayer Wrote:
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> So, people who aren't working don't get paid. I
> don't see a problem with that. Why should the
> taxes I PAY to go people who aren't working?
Welcome to ANTITAX IGNORANCE ON PARADE, 2014 edition. Newsflash. Unless you are an employer yourself, which I very much doubt, then the taxes you pay are not going to cover someone's unemployment taxes. Unemployment benefits in Virginia and most other states are paid out of state and Federal unemployment taxes on employers.
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> So, people who aren't working don't get paid. I
> don't see a problem with that. Why should the
> taxes I PAY to go people who aren't working?
Welcome to ANTITAX IGNORANCE ON PARADE, 2014 edition. Newsflash. Unless you are an employer yourself, which I very much doubt, then the taxes you pay are not going to cover someone's unemployment taxes. Unemployment benefits in Virginia and most other states are paid out of state and Federal unemployment taxes on employers.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Damn you're stupid
()
Date: January 02, 2014 07:45PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> TaxPayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, people who aren't working don't get paid.
> I
> > don't see a problem with that. Why should the
> > taxes I PAY to go people who aren't working?
>
> Welcome to ANTITAX IGNORANCE ON PARADE, 2014
> edition. Newsflash. Unless you are an employer
> yourself, which I very much doubt, then the taxes
> you pay are not going to cover someone's
> unemployment taxes. Unemployment benefits in
> Virginia and most other states are paid out of
> state and Federal unemployment taxes on employers.
'Nuff said.
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> TaxPayer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, people who aren't working don't get paid.
> I
> > don't see a problem with that. Why should the
> > taxes I PAY to go people who aren't working?
>
> Welcome to ANTITAX IGNORANCE ON PARADE, 2014
> edition. Newsflash. Unless you are an employer
> yourself, which I very much doubt, then the taxes
> you pay are not going to cover someone's
> unemployment taxes. Unemployment benefits in
> Virginia and most other states are paid out of
> state and Federal unemployment taxes on employers.
'Nuff said.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
....
()
Date: January 03, 2014 07:48AM
Damn you're stupid Wrote:
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> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TaxPayer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So, people who aren't working don't get paid.
>
> > I
> > > don't see a problem with that. Why should
> the
> > > taxes I PAY to go people who aren't working?
> >
> > Welcome to ANTITAX IGNORANCE ON PARADE, 2014
> > edition. Newsflash. Unless you are an
> employer
> > yourself, which I very much doubt, then the
> taxes
> > you pay are not going to cover someone's
> > unemployment taxes. Unemployment benefits in
> > Virginia and most other states are paid out of
> > state and Federal unemployment taxes on
> employers.
>
>
> 'Nuff said.
Yep. I heard a story on the news where a woman was out of work for a year and claimed she couldn't get a job anywhere and she's from this area. When questioned about getting a job in fast food, security, data entry, or any other of the other jobs posted on a jobs website, she simply replied that it was easier for her to get unemployment and get cash for babysitting.
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> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TaxPayer Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So, people who aren't working don't get paid.
>
> > I
> > > don't see a problem with that. Why should
> the
> > > taxes I PAY to go people who aren't working?
> >
> > Welcome to ANTITAX IGNORANCE ON PARADE, 2014
> > edition. Newsflash. Unless you are an
> employer
> > yourself, which I very much doubt, then the
> taxes
> > you pay are not going to cover someone's
> > unemployment taxes. Unemployment benefits in
> > Virginia and most other states are paid out of
> > state and Federal unemployment taxes on
> employers.
>
>
> 'Nuff said.
Yep. I heard a story on the news where a woman was out of work for a year and claimed she couldn't get a job anywhere and she's from this area. When questioned about getting a job in fast food, security, data entry, or any other of the other jobs posted on a jobs website, she simply replied that it was easier for her to get unemployment and get cash for babysitting.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
....
()
Date: January 03, 2014 07:48AM
and yes she was Hispanic.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Mo Free Barry
()
Date: January 03, 2014 08:00AM
Why work when you get a free ride. If the system worked they would get a list of jobs and be sent for an interview. If offered the job they would either take it or not get unemployment and that means any job. Enough of the free loaders being able to pick and choose. If you find a job great, if not then you take what is offered. If you get fired because you are lazy and want to go back on unemployment then the benefits terminate.
Obama has become an enabler where it is not your fault you are shiftless and lazy its because rich people have too much money.
Obama has become an enabler where it is not your fault you are shiftless and lazy its because rich people have too much money.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Warren Buffthis
()
Date: January 03, 2014 09:03AM
Mo Free Barry Wrote:
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> Why work when you get a free ride. If the system
> worked they would get a list of jobs and be sent
> for an interview. If offered the job they would
> either take it or not get unemployment and that
> means any job. Enough of the free loaders being
> able to pick and choose. If you find a job great,
> if not then you take what is offered. If you get
> fired because you are lazy and want to go back on
> unemployment then the benefits terminate.
>
> Obama has become an enabler where it is not your
> fault you are shiftless and lazy its because rich
> people have too much money.
+100
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> Why work when you get a free ride. If the system
> worked they would get a list of jobs and be sent
> for an interview. If offered the job they would
> either take it or not get unemployment and that
> means any job. Enough of the free loaders being
> able to pick and choose. If you find a job great,
> if not then you take what is offered. If you get
> fired because you are lazy and want to go back on
> unemployment then the benefits terminate.
>
> Obama has become an enabler where it is not your
> fault you are shiftless and lazy its because rich
> people have too much money.
+100
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Sam Sonight
()
Date: January 03, 2014 09:10AM
I favor a program under which welfare is eliminated for the able-bodied. In place is a govt jobs-of-last-resort program, doing labor-intensive, meaningful work like picking up trash, mowing grass, etc. for minimum wage, much like the old Civilian Conservation Corps. You don't show up or work hard, you don't get ANYTHING from taxpayers. Participants would be eligible for free training/education classes on weekends ON THEIR OWN TIME if they wish to better themselves and improve their skills for better paying jobs.
Beggars shouldn't be choosers.
Beggars shouldn't be choosers.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Obese Obama Supporters
()
Date: January 03, 2014 09:14AM
Sam Sonight Wrote:
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> I favor a program under which welfare is
> eliminated for the able-bodied. In place is a
> govt jobs-of-last-resort program, doing
> labor-intensive, meaningful work like picking up
> trash, mowing grass, etc. for minimum wage, much
> like the old Civilian Conservation Corps. You
> don't show up or work hard, you don't get ANYTHING
> from taxpayers. Participants would be eligible
> for free training/education classes on weekends ON
> THEIR OWN TIME if they wish to better themselves
> and improve their skills for better paying jobs.
>
> Beggars shouldn't be choosers.
Able-bodied? Every Obama supporter has a handicapped parking tag hanging from the rearview mirror of their Cadillac so they can park closer to the casino after trading their EBT cards for cash. The Obama crowd are masters of feigning handicaps and collecting workers' comp. Good luck.
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> I favor a program under which welfare is
> eliminated for the able-bodied. In place is a
> govt jobs-of-last-resort program, doing
> labor-intensive, meaningful work like picking up
> trash, mowing grass, etc. for minimum wage, much
> like the old Civilian Conservation Corps. You
> don't show up or work hard, you don't get ANYTHING
> from taxpayers. Participants would be eligible
> for free training/education classes on weekends ON
> THEIR OWN TIME if they wish to better themselves
> and improve their skills for better paying jobs.
>
> Beggars shouldn't be choosers.
Able-bodied? Every Obama supporter has a handicapped parking tag hanging from the rearview mirror of their Cadillac so they can park closer to the casino after trading their EBT cards for cash. The Obama crowd are masters of feigning handicaps and collecting workers' comp. Good luck.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
The silence would be beautiful
()
Date: January 03, 2014 09:20AM
Bull Wrote:
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> Get Your Facts Straight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> > months is a democrat, by definition, unless
> they
> > are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches
> =
> > democrats, period, end of story.
>
> You're an idiot. A closed minded, uninformed
> idiot. Like most of your kind.
You know if it wasn't for ad hominem attacks I don't think liberals would have anything to say at all.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Get Your Facts Straight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone who's been on the dole for more than 3
> > months is a democrat, by definition, unless
> they
> > are severely disabled. Lazy, entitled, leeches
> =
> > democrats, period, end of story.
>
> You're an idiot. A closed minded, uninformed
> idiot. Like most of your kind.
You know if it wasn't for ad hominem attacks I don't think liberals would have anything to say at all.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
riiiiight
()
Date: January 03, 2014 09:58AM
Obese Obama Supporters Wrote:
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> Able-bodied? Every Obama supporter has a
> handicapped parking tag hanging from the rearview
> mirror of their Cadillac so they can park closer
> to the casino after trading their EBT cards for
> cash. The Obama crowd are masters of feigning
> handicaps and collecting workers' comp. Good
> luck.
you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards with their medicaid and medicare because they're too fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the REAL working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Able-bodied? Every Obama supporter has a
> handicapped parking tag hanging from the rearview
> mirror of their Cadillac so they can park closer
> to the casino after trading their EBT cards for
> cash. The Obama crowd are masters of feigning
> handicaps and collecting workers' comp. Good
> luck.
you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards with their medicaid and medicare because they're too fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the REAL working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
pfffft
()
Date: January 03, 2014 10:27AM
How did you put "working American taxpayers, the democrats" together in a sentence without going into a seizure?
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Mo Free Barry
()
Date: January 03, 2014 10:42AM
riiiiight Wrote:
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> you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat
> fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards with
> their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the REAL
> working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
Ten years ago the rednecks would never vote democrat. They finally figured out who pays the best for sitting on your ass all day collecting welfare and having kids. Hint it starts with a D
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> you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat
> fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards with
> their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the REAL
> working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
Ten years ago the rednecks would never vote democrat. They finally figured out who pays the best for sitting on your ass all day collecting welfare and having kids. Hint it starts with a D
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
you should be wearing a helmet
()
Date: January 03, 2014 12:40PM
Mo Free Barry Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> riiiiight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat
> > fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards
> with
> > their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> > fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the
> REAL
> > working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
>
> Ten years ago the rednecks would never vote
> democrat. They finally figured out who pays the
> best for sitting on your ass all day collecting
> welfare and having kids. Hint it starts with a D
Hint: your inane statements prove that you are too retarded to operate machinery. I hope you're wearing your retard helmet before you hurt yourself.
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> riiiiight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat
> > fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards
> with
> > their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> > fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the
> REAL
> > working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
>
> Ten years ago the rednecks would never vote
> democrat. They finally figured out who pays the
> best for sitting on your ass all day collecting
> welfare and having kids. Hint it starts with a D
Hint: your inane statements prove that you are too retarded to operate machinery. I hope you're wearing your retard helmet before you hurt yourself.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Got your wires crossed
()
Date: January 03, 2014 12:53PM
riiiiight Wrote:
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> you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat
> fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards with
> their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the REAL
> working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
That doesn't even make sense.
Why would somebody who is sitting on their ass collecting gov't handouts associate with the Tea Party? A group that preaches personal responsibility, self reliance, and limited government?
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> you're confused, fool. you must mean those fat
> fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards with
> their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the REAL
> working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
That doesn't even make sense.
Why would somebody who is sitting on their ass collecting gov't handouts associate with the Tea Party? A group that preaches personal responsibility, self reliance, and limited government?
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
Subtle differences
()
Date: January 03, 2014 12:56PM
Mo Free Barry Wrote:
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>
> Ten years ago the rednecks would never vote
> democrat. They finally figured out who pays the
> best for sitting on your ass all day collecting
> welfare and having kids. Hint it starts with a D
Correction, a lot of rednecks still vote republican. Its the white trash that now vote democrat.
Not all rednecks are white trash and not all white trash are rednecks.
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>
> Ten years ago the rednecks would never vote
> democrat. They finally figured out who pays the
> best for sitting on your ass all day collecting
> welfare and having kids. Hint it starts with a D
Correction, a lot of rednecks still vote republican. Its the white trash that now vote democrat.
Not all rednecks are white trash and not all white trash are rednecks.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
exffx
()
Date: January 03, 2014 01:02PM
Yup.
There's a difference between rednecks and white trash.
There's a difference between rednecks and white trash.
Re: Nearly 10,000 Lose Unemployment Benefits
Posted by:
facts are facts
()
Date: January 03, 2014 02:06PM
Got your wires crossed Wrote:
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> riiiiight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > you're confused, fool. you must mean those
> fat
> > fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards
> with
> > their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> > fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the
> REAL
> > working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
>
> That doesn't even make sense.
>
> Why would somebody who is sitting on their ass
> collecting gov't handouts associate with the Tea
> Party? A group that preaches personal
> responsibility, self reliance, and limited
> government?
EXACTLY, fool!
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> riiiiight Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > you're confused, fool. you must mean those
> fat
> > fuck southern inbred redneck teabag retards
> with
> > their medicaid and medicare because they're too
> > fat and unhealthy to work, sponging off the
> REAL
> > working American taxpayers, the Democrats.
>
> That doesn't even make sense.
>
> Why would somebody who is sitting on their ass
> collecting gov't handouts associate with the Tea
> Party? A group that preaches personal
> responsibility, self reliance, and limited
> government?
EXACTLY, fool!
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