The bodies were really piling up in Burke yesterday.

There was a dead body found in a creek at the Burke train station yesterday morning. He had ingested a foreign substance, and the police are calling it a drug overdose. The cause of death and identity are still unknown. The police do not know the identity, but someone on another thread said it was a kid who graduated from Robinson high school last June. Who was it?

A WSHS student died the same day, in a separate incident possibly a suicide. Presumably the police know his identity. Anyone know if the two cases are related? Did they know each other? Were they lovers or was there some kind of relationship or suicide pact between the two people? Did the WSHS student die from ingesting the same foreign substance as the kid at the train station?

Two unnatural deaths of young males in the same day in close proximity is very suspicious.

I live in Reston and recently had my home broken into. I had some cyanide pills I got off the silkroad stolen, they were in a Xanax bottle so Daniel Stanley probably thought they were xanax bars and sold them to the kids around the schools.

I heard from my friend he is pushing all the stolen goods as fast as he can to save up for a good lawyer.

lol..how dumb could someone be to take these stupid drugs?

Laura Wrote:
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> The bodies were really piling up in Burke
> yesterday.
>
> There was a dead body found in a creek at the
> Burke train station yesterday morning. He had
> ingested a foreign substance, and the police are
> calling it a drug overdose. The cause of death
> and identity are still unknown. The police do not
> know the identity, but someone on another thread
> said it was a kid who graduated from Robinson high
> school last June. Who was it?
>
> A WSHS student died the same day, in a separate
> incident possibly a suicide. Presumably the
> police know his identity. Anyone know if the two
> cases are related? Did they know each other?
> Were they lovers or was there some kind of
> relationship or suicide pact between the two
> people? Did the WSHS student die from ingesting
> the same foreign substance as the kid at the train
> station?
>
> Two unnatural deaths of young males in the same
> day in close proximity is very suspicious.

It is odd and suspicious.

Did they died?

A kid that attended WSHS and a kid that graduated last year from Robinson both died suspiciously yesterday.

Did they both ingest the same substance? Where did they get it from?

Is there some new dangerous food/substance that is killing kids?

Probably some faggot going around killing and raping kids.

Both cases are cyanide poisening. Unfortuantely both are sonsiderd suicide.

I don't know about the kid that died at WSHS, but the kid (19 year old) that died in Burke yesterday was an unrelated case I believe. I am sure before long the full story will come out in the local news.

It was me that did it.. but they asked for it...

Well, they both went to liberal athiest breeding ground public schools. Public schools don't teach ethics, morals and family values. With the record hate mongering propogated by the liberals in our country and a tyrannical president enslaving the citizens, especially the youth, kids don't see any point. They are not taught to set a goal and complete it, to be responsible and successful. Liberalism has told them everything will be provided for them but they will work for little pay, be taxed heavily to keep the elitist liberals in power and the citizens poor. They no longer see opportunity. Liberals have killed the American dream and liberals have killed these two kids.

Liberals did it Wrote:
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> Well, they both went to liberal athiest breeding
> ground public schools. Public schools don't teach
> ethics, morals and family values. With the record
> hate mongering propogated by the liberals in our
> country and a tyrannical president enslaving the
> citizens, especially the youth, kids don't see any
> point. They are not taught to set a goal and
> complete it, to be responsible and successful.
> Liberalism has told them everything will be
> provided for them but they will work for little
> pay, be taxed heavily to keep the elitist liberals
> in power and the citizens poor. They no longer see
> opportunity. Liberals have killed the American
> dream and liberals have killed these two kids.


Excellent point...

"Well, they both went to liberal athiest breeding ground public schools. Public schools don't teach ethics, morals and family values. "

...This is one of the most inane comments I've ever read. Disregarding the notion that institutional schooling may even be a factor in a possible suicide, are you confused so much as to believe that schools, especially public schools, to teach a divers spectrum of students ethics and morals? "Family" values are so called because they are learned through social experiences within the FAMILY.

And for the record: I am not a liberal, I attended private school from pre-K through my undergraduate degree, and I work in public schools.

Well, they both went to liberal athiest breeding
> ground public schools. Public schools don't teach
> ethics, morals and family values. With the record
> hate mongering propogated by the liberals in our
> country and a tyrannical president enslaving the
> citizens, especially the youth, kids don't see any
> point. They are not taught to set a goal and
> complete it, to be responsible and successful.
> Liberalism has told them everything will be
> provided for them but they will work for little
> pay, be taxed heavily to keep the elitist liberals
> in power and the citizens poor. They no longer see
> opportunity. Liberals have killed the American
> dream and liberals have killed these two kids.
I think Knot, Therefore it isn't knot knot true whatusay.

R.E. Pub Wrote:
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> "Well, they both went to liberal athiest breeding
> ground public schools. Public schools don't teach
> ethics, morals and family values. "
>
> ...This is one of the most inane comments I've
> ever read. Disregarding the notion that
> institutional schooling may even be a factor in a
> possible suicide, are you confused so much as to
> believe that schools, especially public schools,
> to teach a divers spectrum of students ethics and
> morals? "Family" values are so called because they
> are learned through social experiences within the
> FAMILY.
>
> And for the record: I am not a liberal, I attended
> private school from pre-K through my undergraduate
> degree, and I work in public schools.

Of FUCKING course they should teach morals, ethics and especially family values. They should teach religion as well. They should teach students to be FUCKING PROUD OF AMERICA and the culture and building blocks from which it came. Our forefathers were God fearing, conservative men. What liberals have done to passionately remove responsibility, ambition, creativity, empathy, loyalty, strength, faith and family is EXACTLY why kids are killing themselves. For you to think school has nothing to do with it is asanine.

Some kids have terrible homes, parents, families (probably why they aren't home shcooled) and need to know what a successful family life is full of love, understanding and support.

You people stuck in public academia are fucked in the head and the reason why American children are so fucking stupid.

Public shcools suck Wrote:
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> R.E. Pub Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Well, they both went to liberal athiest
> breeding
> > ground public schools. Public schools don't
> teach
> > ethics, morals and family values. "
> >
> > ...This is one of the most inane comments I've
> > ever read. Disregarding the notion that
> > institutional schooling may even be a factor in
> a
> > possible suicide, are you confused so much as
> to
> > believe that schools, especially public
> schools,
> > to teach a divers spectrum of students ethics
> and
> > morals? "Family" values are so called because
> they
> > are learned through social experiences within
> the
> > FAMILY.
> >
> > And for the record: I am not a liberal, I
> attended
> > private school from pre-K through my
> undergraduate
> > degree, and I work in public schools.
>
> Of FUCKING course they should teach morals, ethics
> and especially family values. They should teach
> religion as well. They should teach students to be
> FUCKING PROUD OF AMERICA and the culture and
> building blocks from which it came. Our
> forefathers were God fearing, conservative men.
> What liberals have done to passionately remove
> responsibility, ambition, creativity, empathy,
> loyalty, strength, faith and family is EXACTLY why
> kids are killing themselves. For you to think
> school has nothing to do with it is asanine.
>
> Some kids have terrible homes, parents, families
> (probably why they aren't home shcooled) and need
> to know what a successful family life is full of
> love, understanding and support.
>
> You people stuck in public academia are fucked in
> the head and the reason why American children are
> so fucking stupid.


Actually..good points...The douchey liberal media and teachers filling the kids with crap in the heads that they will never know how to act or be in the "real world". The teach fantasy not reality.

Public shcools suck Wrote:
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> R.E. Pub Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Well, they both went to liberal athiest
> breeding
> > ground public schools. Public schools don't
> teach
> > ethics, morals and family values. "
> >
> > ...This is one of the most inane comments I've
> > ever read. Disregarding the notion that
> > institutional schooling may even be a factor in
> a
> > possible suicide, are you confused so much as
> to
> > believe that schools, especially public
> schools,
> > to teach a divers spectrum of students ethics
> and
> > morals? "Family" values are so called because
> they
> > are learned through social experiences within
> the
> > FAMILY.
> >
> > And for the record: I am not a liberal, I
> attended
> > private school from pre-K through my
> undergraduate
> > degree, and I work in public schools.
>
> Of FUCKING course they should teach morals, ethics
> and especially family values. They should teach
> religion as well. They should teach students to be
> FUCKING PROUD OF AMERICA and the culture and
> building blocks from which it came. Our
> forefathers were God fearing, conservative men.
> What liberals have done to passionately remove
> responsibility, ambition, creativity, empathy,
> loyalty, strength, faith and family is EXACTLY why
> kids are killing themselves. For you to think
> school has nothing to do with it is asanine.
>
> Some kids have terrible homes, parents, families
> (probably why they aren't home shcooled) and need
> to know what a successful family life is full of
> love, understanding and support.
>
> You people stuck in public academia are fucked in
> the head and the reason why American children are
> so fucking stupid.

Wow. I feel sorry for your kids. You and that other piece of work above. Sad that you feel compelled to use the word 'fuck' four times in a brief post. I can only imagine what would happen if your daughter got pregnant, your son was gay, your wife was raped and impregnated, your child wanted to marry a Jew or a Muslim, and a million other scenarios. Somehow I don't think you would be "full of love, understanding and support".

Why Liberals are Bad for America

There are so many reasons why liberal Democrats are the wrong group to be in charge of Congress.


1.Liberals feel a need to constantly bash the United States.

2.Liberals focus more on vilifying the Republican party than accomplishing anything else.(case in point - the relentless Congressional investigations of various Republican actions, such as the firing of several U.S. attorneys)

3.Liberals want to dump astronomical amounts of money into various social welfare programs that are ineffective and particularly susceptible to fraud, abuse and corruption.

4.Liberals cannot seem to wrap their heads around the idea that the entire Social Security program, as well as Medicare, is headed for bankruptcy and places an unfair burden on the younger, working generation.

5.Liberals seem to subscribe to the idea that more taxes - especially more taxes for the wealthy - is economically beneficial to the country. In other words, liberals believe in taxing heavily people for being economically productive.

6.Liberals are intent on being politically correct - never saying anything against minorities - while saying things that are very offensive to Christians and conservatives.

Just Pathetic Wrote:
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> Public shcools suck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > R.E. Pub Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > "Well, they both went to liberal athiest
> > breeding
> > > ground public schools. Public schools don't
> > teach
> > > ethics, morals and family values. "
> > >
> > > ...This is one of the most inane comments
> I've
> > > ever read. Disregarding the notion that
> > > institutional schooling may even be a factor
> in
> > a
> > > possible suicide, are you confused so much as
> > to
> > > believe that schools, especially public
> > schools,
> > > to teach a divers spectrum of students ethics
> > and
> > > morals? "Family" values are so called because
> > they
> > > are learned through social experiences within
> > the
> > > FAMILY.
> > >
> > > And for the record: I am not a liberal, I
> > attended
> > > private school from pre-K through my
> > undergraduate
> > > degree, and I work in public schools.
> >
> > Of FUCKING course they should teach morals,
> ethics
> > and especially family values. They should teach
> > religion as well. They should teach students to
> be
> > FUCKING PROUD OF AMERICA and the culture and
> > building blocks from which it came. Our
> > forefathers were God fearing, conservative men.
> > What liberals have done to passionately remove
> > responsibility, ambition, creativity, empathy,
> > loyalty, strength, faith and family is EXACTLY
> why
> > kids are killing themselves. For you to think
> > school has nothing to do with it is asanine.
> >
> > Some kids have terrible homes, parents,
> families
> > (probably why they aren't home shcooled) and
> need
> > to know what a successful family life is full
> of
> > love, understanding and support.
> >
> > You people stuck in public academia are fucked
> in
> > the head and the reason why American children
> are
> > so fucking stupid.
>
> Wow. I feel sorry for your kids. You and that
> other piece of work above. Sad that you feel
> compelled to use the word 'fuck' four times in a
> brief post. I can only imagine what would happen
> if your daughter got pregnant, your son was gay,
> your wife was raped and impregnated, your child
> wanted to marry a Jew or a Muslim, and a million
> other scenarios. Somehow I don't think you would
> be "full of love, understanding and support".

"Fuck" is part of the english language. You feel sorry for my kids because I teach them to be proud of America? I won't feel sorry for you when I exercise my 2nd amendment right to protect my family from a traitor, liberal asshole like yourself. I will love my children no matter what they do. I know you can't understand that, because you are a liberal. I have faith they will stick to how they were raised because I raise them and not a shit hole liberal public school. Conservative are strong, proud, faithful and American. We wave the American flag, liberals burn it. Now, go FUCK off.

Why Liberals are Bad for America

There are so many reasons why liberal Democrats are the wrong group to be in charge of Congress.


1.Liberals feel a need to constantly bash the United States.

2.Liberals focus more on vilifying the Republican party than accomplishing anything else.(case in point - the relentless Congressional investigations of various Republican actions, such as the firing of several U.S. attorneys)

3.Liberals want to dump astronomical amounts of money into various social welfare programs that are ineffective and particularly susceptible to fraud, abuse and corruption.

4.Liberals cannot seem to wrap their heads around the idea that the entire Social Security program, as well as Medicare, is headed for bankruptcy and places an unfair burden on the younger, working generation.

5.Liberals seem to subscribe to the idea that more taxes - especially more taxes for the wealthy - is economically beneficial to the country. In other words, liberals believe in taxing heavily people for being economically productive.

6.Liberals are intent on being politically correct - never saying anything against minorities - while saying things that are very offensive to Christians and conservatives.

The police do not know the identity of the kid who died at the train station, and the identity of the one who went to WSHS may or may not be known. Funeral homes can have private unpublicized creamations, but don't they need a death certificate? Aren't death certificates public records? How long does it take for those to become available for search? Does Fairfax Underground have a death certificate search similar to the ticket search? Of course if the train station body is never claimed, he will remain a "John Doe".

There is obvious rationale to keep secret the death an old person of pension age. As long as the government does not find out, the relatives can continue to cash the social security or retirement checks. However if a young person dies, what is the benefit of not wanting anyone to know? Why pass up the opportunity for sympathy and of course all the food people bring to their house?

Again, it's about Money. The logical reason to keep the deaths secret is to sell the identity of the dead kid to some immigrant or criminal. Particularly in the case of the kid who had already completed high school, his "clean" identity would be a valuable commodity. What kind of international market value would the identities of these kids have?

So, is it possible for the parents of a high school kid to keep his death a secret if the school knows about it? When a kid stops coming to school and the parents tell the school he is dead, does the school actually check? Do the parents have to show a death certificate, or does the school check the public records or police reports?

At least these kid's bodies are still accounted for. There is an international black-market organ trade, where live kids are sold for their organs. Sadly, some of the kids seen on milk cartons may have actually been sold to foreign organ brokers by their own parents. Then since the the missing kid was never reported dead, a greedy parent can--for additional cash--sell the identity at a later time when the child would have turned 18.

Just wondering. You never know what supposedly "grieving relatives" might be up to with all the secrecy. It's food for thought if no details or obituaries emerge for these kids.

If there was any doubt in my mind that this forum is full of batshit crazy people, this thread eliminates it.

Our adversaries do some batshit crazy stuff. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Chinese or others are not trying to get families to withold/suppress death information and buy birth certificates of recently-deceased people. They can then install spies with the new identities and set up sleeper cells for future operations.

This absence of names, death certificates, and obituaries is very suspicious. It wouldn't be surprising if foreign powers had even been involved in the deaths themselves.

Those who know the grieving families, have they had any recent unexplained affluence? Bought new cars or vacation honmes, jewelry, etc? Any recent foreign trips? Foreign-looking visitors? Please keep an eye on them over the next several months for any of these signs.

don't laugh Wrote:
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> Our adversaries do some batshit crazy stuff. It
> wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Chinese
> or others are not trying to get families to
> withold/suppress death information and buy birth
> certificates of recently-deceased people. They
> can then install spies with the new identities and
> set up sleeper cells for future operations.
>
> This absence of names, death certificates, and
> obituaries is very suspicious. It wouldn't be
> surprising if foreign powers had even been
> involved in the deaths themselves.
>
> Those who know the grieving families, have they
> had any recent unexplained affluence? Bought new
> cars or vacation honmes, jewelry, etc? Any recent
> foreign trips? Foreign-looking visitors? Please
> keep an eye on them over the next several months
> for any of these signs.
Attachments:

His name was Josh Lutton

The 15 year old boy that died was a very nice kid. He was being cyber bullied and took his own life.

The identity of the 15 year old
is known. Neighbors, friends and family know.
He was a volunteer, was a loving kid. Has three brothers.

Saying names online isn't a good thing.
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> The police do not know the identity of the kid who
> died at the train station, and the identity of the
> one who went to WSHS may or may not be known.
> Funeral homes can have private unpublicized
> creamations, but don't they need a death
> certificate? Aren't death certificates public
> records? How long does it take for those to
> become available for search? Does Fairfax
> Underground have a death certificate search
> similar to the ticket search? Of course if the
> train station body is never claimed, he will
> remain a "John Doe".
>
> There is obvious rationale to keep secret the
> death an old person of pension age. As long as
> the government does not find out, the relatives
> can continue to cash the social security or
> retirement checks. However if a young person
> dies, what is the benefit of not wanting anyone
> to know? Why pass up the opportunity for sympathy
> and of course all the food people bring to their
> house?
>
> Again, it's about Money. The logical reason to
> keep the deaths secret is to sell the identity of
> the dead kid to some immigrant or criminal.
> Particularly in the case of the kid who had
> already completed high school, his "clean"
> identity would be a valuable commodity. What kind
> of international market value would the identities
> of these kids have?
>
> So, is it possible for the parents of a high
> school kid to keep his death a secret if the
> school knows about it? When a kid stops coming to
> school and the parents tell the school he is dead,
> does the school actually check? Do the parents
> have to show a death certificate, or does the
> school check the public records or police
> reports?
>
> At least these kid's bodies are still accounted
> for. There is an international black-market organ
> trade, where live kids are sold for their organs.
> Sadly, some of the kids seen on milk cartons may
> have actually been sold to foreign organ brokers
> by their own parents. Then since the the missing
> kid was never reported dead, a greedy parent
> can--for additional cash--sell the identity at a
> later time when the child would have turned 18.
>
>
> Just wondering. You never know what supposedly
> "grieving relatives" might be up to with all the
> secrecy. It's food for thought if no details or
> obituaries emerge for these kids.

Cyanide. Double score!

Scout family Wrote:
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> The identity of the 15 year old
> is known. Neighbors, friends and family know.
> He was a volunteer, was a loving kid. Has three
> brothers.
>
> Saying names online isn't a good thing.

Perhaps all that is true. If so that would partially explain why he is dead today. If those who knew this kid think that "saying names" is not a good a thing, that could explain why they did not speak up to prevent his death. If his friends, teachers, or family had taken notice and exposed and publicized the bullying for what it was, it could have lost its effect. Keeping quiet seemingly did not work out well in this case. Or perhaps the bullying was so stealty no one else noticed. You may Keep quiet at your own risk, but you risk the safety of others as well.

There seems to be an unusual level of secrecy about both deaths. It's very suspicious that tWO kids in the same area died of un-natural causes on the same day, and that the police seem to be clueless, and that no one is talking. Funerals and obituaries are usually publicized. Death certificates are public information. Strangely, neither of these deaths are in the news nor do they have any obituary or funeral announcement associated with them, and those who claim to know the deceased are not mentioning their names...

There are a lot of potentially important questions such as did the two kids know each other? How did the WSHS kid die? Allegedly the RHS kid died from "ingesting a substance", which is not a customary way to take drugs. It also seems a little odd to take drugs next to a creek at a train station at 8:30 am. What was the substance and who provided it?

Two deaths, almost no information, very suspicious circumstances, and strange coincidences point to the possibility of something very nefarious afoot. If everyone keeps quiet how many more will die?

Lastly the lack of death certificates is a huge red flag for possible foreign intelligence activity. The Chinese, Iran, or other adversary may have offered to pay for their identities. Do not ignore signs of these families' affluence, foreign travel, and foreign visitors!!!!

God you all are misinformed and the direction this thread went makes me want to vomit. My moms coworker was the mom of the boy from WSHS. He committed suicide and his parents aren't releasing more on why. And the boy from work was my best friend Josh. He took research chemicals and they reacted badly with his body and he over heated. He jumped in the creek to try to cool down. The sudden temperature change sent his body into shock and he ended up dying in the hospital after CPR not working.

Meth and liberalism don't mix.

Fairfax County does not report names of suicide individuals

There were many related stories on why the Media and Police don't list these.
Recall two years ago... Or one year ago, when the woman shot her brains out at Target in Burke.


Something I learned in the whole Target suicide deal. is that there are normally anywhere from 1 to 3 suicides a week in this county.

Two guys dead sounds like some gay shit goin' on.

A friend Wrote:
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> God you all are misinformed and the direction this
> thread went makes me want to vomit. My moms
> coworker was the mom of the boy from WSHS. He
> committed suicide and his parents aren't releasing
> more on why. And the boy from work was my best
> friend Josh. He took research chemicals and they
> reacted badly with his body and he over heated. He
> jumped in the creek to try to cool down. The
> sudden temperature change sent his body into shock
> and he ended up dying in the hospital after CPR
> not working.

AHA! So the two cases are connected, and you, sir, are the crux of the connection. What country are you working for? How long have you been working for them? Who is your handler? How much do they pay you?

"research chemicals" you say? hmmm...

According to an emergency responder the WSHS kid did indeed die from AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION. He joins not only Ariel Castro but other deceased wankers including: David Carradine, Michael Hutchence, Albert Dekker, Frantisek Kotzwara, Hide, Kevin Gilbert, ichizo Ishida, Kristian Etchells, Robin Hanssen, Sada Abe, Stephen Milligan, and Vaughn Bodé. All would have fared better had they limited themselves to choking just the "chicken" itself.

Under the circumstances, the family may be understandably embarrassed and distressed, so don't expect information from them. However Death Certificates and Police Reports are public information, whether or not the media deems them news-worthy. Both of these incidents just happened so look for more details to come about the demise of John and Josh.

not crazy Wrote:
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> Scout family Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The identity of the 15 year old
> > is known. Neighbors, friends and family know.
> > He was a volunteer, was a loving kid. Has
> three
> > brothers.
> >
> > Saying names online isn't a good thing.
>
> Perhaps all that is true. If so that would
> partially explain why he is dead today. If those
> who knew this kid think that "saying names" is not
> a good a thing, that could explain why they did
> not speak up to prevent his death. If his
> friends, teachers, or family had taken notice and
> exposed and publicized the bullying for what it
> was, it could have lost its effect. Keeping quiet
> seemingly did not work out well in this case. Or
> perhaps the bullying was so stealty no one else
> noticed. You may Keep quiet at your own risk, but
> you risk the safety of others as well.
>
> There seems to be an unusual level of secrecy
> about both deaths. It's very suspicious that tWO
> kids in the same area died of un-natural causes on
> the same day, and that the police seem to be
> clueless, and that no one is talking. Funerals
> and obituaries are usually publicized. Death
> certificates are public information. Strangely,
> neither of these deaths are in the news nor do
> they have any obituary or funeral announcement
> associated with them, and those who claim to know
> the deceased are not mentioning their names...
>
> There are a lot of potentially important questions
> such as did the two kids know each other? How did
> the WSHS kid die? Allegedly the RHS kid died from
> "ingesting a substance", which is not a customary
> way to take drugs. It also seems a little odd to
> take drugs next to a creek at a train station at
> 8:30 am. What was the substance and who provided
> it?
>
> Two deaths, almost no information, very suspicious
> circumstances, and strange coincidences point to
> the possibility of something very nefarious afoot.
> If everyone keeps quiet how many more will die?
>
> Lastly the lack of death certificates is a huge
> red flag for possible foreign intelligence
> activity. The Chinese, Iran, or other adversary
> may have offered to pay for their identities. Do
> not ignore signs of these families' affluence,
> foreign travel, and foreign visitors!!!!

"There seems to be an unusual level of secrecy about both deaths. It's very suspicious that tWO kids in the same area died of un-natural causes on the same day, and that the police seem to be clueless, and that no one is talking."

Answer: A local contractor has been hiring high school kids and then murdering them at the end of the job to avoid paying them. FCPD got a tip that the bodies were dumped at this location.

According to an emergency responder the WSHS kid did indeed die from AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION. He joins not only Ariel Castro but other deceased wankers including: David Carradine, Michael Hutchence, Albert Dekker, Frantisek Kotzwara, Hide, Kevin Gilbert, ichizo Ishida, Kristian Etchells, Robin Hanssen, Sada Abe, Stephen Milligan, and Vaughn Bodé. All would have fared better had they limited themselves to choking just the "chicken" itself.


Actually...Sada Abe strangled her boyfriend, then cut off his nuts and carried them around in a handbag for awhile...so she was not a deceased wanker...

Just sayin'...

Did the emergency responders process the crime scene of the WSHS kid and remove evidence samples? Since there is now an established link with the RHS kid, it would be interesting to know if they found any traces of "research chemicals" in the vicinity of his sordid demise. His body should also be tested for the same chemicals.

It's noteworthy that both boys exhibited strange and erratic behavior in their last minutes alive. One of them jumped into a creek on a cold winter morning, and the other one tried to hang himself from a bed. It's likely that some mind-altering or hallucinogenic chemical may have been responsible or played a role in both events.

It would be a good idea to track the same chemicals back to the source of origin, which may turn out to be none other than China. If the supplier of the chemicals knew they could be ingested by kids seeking sexual or other thrills and failed to attach the proper warnings, they could be held at fault in these two deaths.

Unless, of course, the producer of the chemical has made overtures and settlement offers to the next of kin. Such an offer might include transfer of the birth certificates to the Chinese chemical producer. That small detail would confirm the initial motive theory! This could all be an elaborate identity-theft scheme, perpetrated by China!

not crazy Wrote:
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> Scout family Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The identity of the 15 year old
> > is known. Neighbors, friends and family know.
> > He was a volunteer, was a loving kid. Has
> three
> > brothers.
> >
> > Saying names online isn't a good thing.
>
> Perhaps all that is true. If so that would
> partially explain why he is dead today. If those
> who knew this kid think that "saying names" is not
> a good a thing, that could explain why they did
> not speak up to prevent his death. If his
> friends, teachers, or family had taken notice and
> exposed and publicized the bullying for what it
> was, it could have lost its effect. Keeping quiet
> seemingly did not work out well in this case. Or
> perhaps the bullying was so stealty no one else
> noticed. You may Keep quiet at your own risk, but
> you risk the safety of others as well.
>
> There seems to be an unusual level of secrecy
> about both deaths. It's very suspicious that tWO
> kids in the same area died of un-natural causes on
> the same day, and that the police seem to be
> clueless, and that no one is talking. Funerals
> and obituaries are usually publicized. Death
> certificates are public information. Strangely,
> neither of these deaths are in the news nor do
> they have any obituary or funeral announcement
> associated with them, and those who claim to know
> the deceased are not mentioning their names...
>
> There are a lot of potentially important questions
> such as did the two kids know each other? How did
> the WSHS kid die? Allegedly the RHS kid died from
> "ingesting a substance", which is not a customary
> way to take drugs. It also seems a little odd to
> take drugs next to a creek at a train station at
> 8:30 am. What was the substance and who provided
> it?
>
> Two deaths, almost no information, very suspicious
> circumstances, and strange coincidences point to
> the possibility of something very nefarious afoot.
> If everyone keeps quiet how many more will die?
>
> Lastly the lack of death certificates is a huge
> red flag for possible foreign intelligence
> activity. The Chinese, Iran, or other adversary
> may have offered to pay for their identities. Do
> not ignore signs of these families' affluence,
> foreign travel, and foreign visitors!!!!


You need to add an extra layer of tin foil to the hat. The signals are still getting through....

Me thnk Big John responcible for thes murder. I work for him last summir and he try to rape me and kil me. He drive white van and he is very fat.

You can make jokes, but two people lie dead under suspicious circumstances and there are many unanswered questions. This incident could be just the tip of an iceberg.

Fucking Kim Jong Un is involved in this - I just know it.
Attachments:

I blame the liberal's and their satanic teaching methods.

blame him Wrote:
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> Fucking Kim Jong Un is involved in this - I just
> know it.


Interesting theory but probably not. Iran was the first to start seeking US child identities. Then China got wind of it and adopted a similar program.

It was the Communist Liberals.

Did you know Josh?

Laura Wrote:
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> The bodies were really piling up in Burke
> yesterday.
>
> There was a dead body found in a creek at the
> Burke train station yesterday morning. He had
> ingested a foreign substance, and the police are
> calling it a drug overdose. The cause of death
> and identity are still unknown. The police do not
> know the identity, but someone on another thread
> said it was a kid who graduated from Robinson high
> school last June. Who was it?
>
> A WSHS student died the same day, in a separate
> incident possibly a suicide. Presumably the
> police know his identity. Anyone know if the two
> cases are related? Did they know each other?
> Were they lovers or was there some kind of
> relationship or suicide pact between the two
> people? Did the WSHS student die from ingesting
> the same foreign substance as the kid at the train
> station?
>
> Two unnatural deaths of young males in the same
> day in close proximity is very suspicious.


OMG was it that Ryan Mahan kid that has a thread of his own on FFU???

No, these two kids are named Josh and John. As far as anyone knows they have no connection with the three Ryan Mahan's. The Ryan Mahan's all perished by heroin and marijuana. Whereas the two kids in Burke ingested some kind of "research chemicals" that made them act crazy and die. Supposedly the chemicals came from China which wants their birth certificates so they can insert sleeper cell spies into the US. The federal authorities are looking into it and there was an FBI/DHS/SWAT raid on Tuesday which targeted members of the plot. (There is another thread about that raid on here.) The government is not allowing the media to publish any more news about the matter, and has banned the family from talking. So you will likely not see any more articles or details. Yeah, complicated I know.

K Stockhaus Wrote:
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> No, these two kids are named Josh and John. As
> far as anyone knows they have no connection with
> the three Ryan Mahan's. The Ryan Mahan's all
> perished by heroin and marijuana. Whereas the two
> kids in Burke ingested some kind of "research
> chemicals" that made them act crazy and die.
> Supposedly the chemicals came from China which
> wants their birth certificates so they can insert
> sleeper cell spies into the US. The federal
> authorities are looking into it and there was an
> FBI/DHS/SWAT raid on Tuesday which targeted
> members of the plot. (There is another thread
> about that raid on here.) The government is not
> allowing the media to publish any more news about
> the matter, and has banned the family from
> talking. So you will likely not see any more
> articles or details. Yeah, complicated I know.


You lost me at "died from marijuana" LOL

Well I'm not a doctor but I think technically everyone dies from lack of oxygenated blood to the brain. Whether a zombie bites your head off or 50 years of smoking destroys your heart and lungs, when your brain stops getting oxygenated blood, you die. Or something like that.

KS Wrote:
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> Well I'm not a doctor but I think technically
> everyone dies from lack of oxygenated blood to the
> brain. Whether a zombie bites your head off or 50
> years of smoking destroys your heart and lungs,
> when your brain stops getting oxygenated blood,
> you die. Or something like that.


He must have smoked a lot of doobies during his short life...

Ok listen up asswholes because the kid in Burke was one of my close friends. This is all pissing me of, so heres the real story.

His name was Josh, 18 years old.
He lived in Burke.
He took RC's (research chemecials) and had a bad trip. He got hot so he jumped into the creek and went into shock. The police found him
After a noise complaint.
He was a fantastic guy and smart and all of your comments make me sick. It had absolutly nothing to do with suicide or that other kid.
The cops know exactly what happened.

Just wanted to mention that it is a true disservice to the young men whose lives were lost to have this thread of insensitivity and ranting show up linked to their name. We are all entitled to our opinions, but this is neither the time nor place to be profane. Please have respect for the lives lost.

Annonomus Wrote:
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> Ok listen up asswholes because the kid in Burke
> was one of my close friends. This is all pissing
> me of, so heres the real story.
>
> His name was Josh, 18 years old.
> He lived in Burke.
> He took RC's (research chemecials) and had a bad
> trip. He got hot so he jumped into the creek and
> went into shock. The police found him
> After a noise complaint.
> He was a fantastic guy and smart and all of your
> comments make me sick. It had absolutly nothing to
> do with suicide or that other kid.
> The cops know exactly what happened.

The local Fairfax County police did not even know the identity of the deceased RHS kid. The police quote to that effect is in the news article. Apparently the WSHS kid acquired some of the same "research chemicals" and also began behaving strangely which resulted in his death.

Following the deaths there was a major FBI/DHS raid on a residence connected to the chemicals. The investigation has now been taken over by federal agencies and they will not be releasing any more information or names. Agents have been asking relatives and acquaintances to not talk about the incidents. They are trying to keep it out of the news because the chemicals are linked to a Chinese espionage plot.

Y'all niggas are crazy ass conspiracy theorists.

None of this Chinese shit is true.

Cops don't ever release info on the deaths of minors. Its always been like that.

There was a Chinese interpreter at the raid and the chemicals these kids ingested will ultimately be traced to China. Info about other incidents involving minor is released all the time, if it is a shooting or accident that doesn't involve national security. John and Josh's names are both already in this thread, but the Fairfax County Police Dept does not even know their names. The FBI and DHS are handling the investigation and they have asked people and news media to keep quiet about it. The only problem with that is there could be more of the chemicals out there that were not collected in the raid, and someone else might ingest the substance and go crazy.

Anyone know if the foreign agents, or terrorists or whatever they were, actually tried to contact the families, or did they just have contact with the kids themselves?

Were the boys being bullied into ingesting the substance? Were any other students involved?

Cut the bullshit. Stupid ass conspiracy motherfuckers.

Respect the dead kids.

Speculation has nothing to do with respecting or not respecting the victims. There are some very unusual facts that have led to speculation in the police news blackout. Separate the facts from speculation:

Fact: The kids ingested some "foreign substance" or chemical shortly before they died, and both died in very unusual ways.

Fact: The kids did not manufacture the substance so somebody gave or sold it to them.

Speculation: The deceased kids were unwitting research subjects to study the effects of the chemical substance.

Fact: The FBI and DHS are investigating and raided an apartment looking for evidence and suspects.

Fact: There was a person on the raid who is a Chinese language translator/analyst for the FBI.

Speculation: Why that person was there on the raid.

Fact: The Chinese government has attempted to steal the identities of deceased US citizens.

Fact: There has been very little leaked to the news media. The local police claimed they did not even know the identity of one victim, and did not comment on the other victim at all.

These were not ordinary deaths, but the full details have not come to light and may never be known.

Funeral services for the deceased have been announced.

WSHS kid:
Funeral services for John Stevens will be held at St Raymond’s Peñafort Roman Catholic Church
Saturday, December 21, 2013,at 11:00 AM
Address: 8750 Pohick Rd, Springfield 22153
All are welcome.

RHS kid:
A memorial service to celebrate Josh Lutton's life will be held at New Hope Church, 8905 Ox Road, Lorton, Virginia 22079 on Monday, December 23, 2013.
See more at: http://www.jeffersonfuneralchapel.com/obituary?id=1324179

RIP to both.

Ok sorry didn't see it before.

My son knew both boys. Will attend the services. Condolences for the tragic events.

the fuck is wrong with you?

Kid from Robinson is a close personal friend of mine. We held a vigil and have all been together since to mourn his passing.
Cause of death is more closely related to him having taken a swim in a creek by the VRE after ingesting "foreign substances".

West Springfield kid is entirely unrelated.
Don't listen to rumors.
At least two of the news articles surrounding Josh's death were entirely written up on a whim and full of misinformation, so the media isn't what should be paid attention to during these trying times.

WSHS was a suicide.
Josh was an accident and a message to all of our local drug-doing denizens: Always have a sober trip-sitter.

The events were appalling, but people don't seem so well informed. The immediate cause of death does not tell the entire story. Both kids ingested some "foreign substance" then did some very strange things that resulted in their deaths.

Had it not been for the "foreign substance", neither kid would have done what he did. If someone is committing suicide by hanging they typically are not able to stand or sit with the noose still loose. If someone is going for a swim they do not do so in a creek at 8:30 am in December. Their erratic and bizarre behavior was a direct result of them ingesting the foreign substance. Both kids knew some of the same people and both died on the same day under suspicious circumstances. It doesn't take much to connect the dots...

By the way, drugs are bad but these kids did not take ordinary illegal drugs in an attempt to get high. It's possible neither kid even knew he was ingesting anything out of the ordinary. The substance could have been concealed in a food item and both kids were entirely unaware the food was adulterated.

This is indeed a tragic event but there is more to the story and definitely other guilty parties responsible. Someone supplied the foreign substance. That party or parties needs to be brought to justice for these deaths. Hopefully the FBI/DHS raid will result in eventual arrests.

This is so stupid.....his name was josh. There's no plot. I know who he was, I knew him, why are you saying such terrible things in his memory. He deserves peace not this bullshit. There's no conspiracy or anything. The cops just don't want to give out his name without parents consent

Seriously... John (WSHS kid) didn't take any drugs. He was being bulled and had enough of it and committed suicide, an act that you don't need drugs for. If you're sad enough, you can bring yourself to do it.
And Josh (Robinson graduate) did take illegal drugs. But he took them willingly, with full intentions of getting high.It's more common then you think. And of course no one rationally swims in a creek in December. Drugs affect your brain, especially if taken while on prescribed drugs. The mixture of all those substances are what caused him to jump into the creek.
So please get your facts straight before aiding stupid rumors. It's highly disrespectful to the dead children and their friends/familys.

I am fucking baffled by how ignorant you sound. Literally, the most ignorant statement ive heard in my life, and ive been to 2 different drug rehabs with crack heads, heroin junkies you fucking name it. And went to an alternative high school in Alexandria VA (Quander Road School, full of hood rats). That being said, you should seriously work on your tolerance and acceptance of other people, the world is a diverse place and not no ones views are right or wrong, just different.

A friend Wrote:
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> Seriously... John (WSHS kid) didn't take any
> drugs. He was being bulled and had enough of it
> and committed suicide, an act that you don't need
> drugs for. If you're sad enough, you can bring
> yourself to do it.
> And Josh (Robinson graduate) did take illegal
> drugs. But he took them willingly, with full
> intentions of getting high.It's more common then
> you think. And of course no one rationally swims
> in a creek in December. Drugs affect your brain,
> especially if taken while on prescribed drugs. The
> mixture of all those substances are what caused
> him to jump into the creek.
> So please get your facts straight before aiding
> stupid rumors. It's highly disrespectful to the
> dead children and their friends/familys.


Get your facts straight and quit smearing dead people by claiming they took drugs. Someone else who knew the Josh, the RHS kid, already said he did not take illegal drugs. He said it was some sort of chemical used in manufacturing or research. Even the police just said he ingested a "foreign substance." People are smearing his name saying he took illegal drugs when in fact he did not. At that hour of the morning he was most likely on his way to school or work anyway.

There were also very strange details about the so-called suicide of John the WSHS kid. There was not enough height differential for him to actually to hang himself. Attempting to "hang" yourself from a short distance after getting an anonymous Instagram message is just as bizarre and inexplicable as swimming in a creek at 8:30 am in December. However both strange behaviors can be explained by chemical effects on the brain. The same foreign substance could have been the cause.

These kids may not have knowingly ingested the substance. They may have been poisoned by someone who gave them an adulterated food item. Perhaps the people here claiming they were friends with both kids were the ones who gave them the foreign substance which they unknowingly ingested. Don't forget these unusual deaths happened on the same day, in close proximity. Perhaps it was not a conspiracy or even intentional, but a prank gone tragically wrong.

Given these facts, it is disrespectful to their memory to simply say these kids killed themselves before the full investigation is complete.

Hey,
Fb has a page for John, in memory of John Stevens.

An investigation is being conducted to determine which peers or adults that interacted with the 15 year old the night of his death.

That is good to hear. I hope the investigation finds what the foreign substance was that they ingested, and its source where it came from. It's kind of scary thinking they might have given more of it out for other kids to eat or whatever. Hopefully no one else dies as a result before they can track it down.

I am both shocked and sickened by the content of this thread, as a parent and a member of this community- the curiosity and concern that started this thread are consistent with human nature but the lack of respect and unfounded assumption are just hateful. If you have nothing but political conspiracy and slander to add to a conversation about loss of life, you really shouldn't be wasting your time on this, surely there is a government agency desperately in need of your valuable input and intellectual contribution to the prevention of young boys dying. However, if you have not been selected to join the investigation, perhaps you're opinions are just the product of boredom or having nothing better to do with your time.
When a child is bullied, it is a problem, when a child is bullied to the point that it causes depression or costs him his life, it is a tragedy. When did death become platform for a soapbox rant rather than a deep concern for the value of life and a call to action for prevention? Oh, probably because they weren't your kids, or your family- therefore it's fine.
As for Josh Lutton, he was not some punk kid with a drug problem, he was a kind and sweet soul, one with parents and a church that adored him. He was a believer of Jesus Christ and a child of the one true God; slander his good name, as you will, but know that you're wrong in what you've turned these tragedies into. Just because people, young and old, struggle with the ways of this world or the pains and trials of this life, it doesn't take away the value of their life to their friends, family or communities- your opinions and wild, uninformed tangents are a reflection of your own struggles with the ways of this world; obviously John and Josh didn't deal with their pain and struggles by sitting at a computer spewing hate and discourse to a grieving community. Gosh, looks to me like our world is worse off, we've lost the gentle souls that choose peace and sadly, struggle silently and we're left with angry self-righteous fools that wouldn't know the difference. Shame on you, the God of the universe came to save us while we were still sinners, not when we met some standard of perfection. Jesus came for the lost and broken; perfect people like you don't need a savior I guess.
Have some respect for the parents of these boys, if there is even a tiny shred of kindness in your ugly-grinch heart, recognize that people will be celebrating Christmas without their loved ones this year and political opinion and character bashing can do nothing but harm. If you really care abuot your community, try to help not harm. Condolences, not conspiracy. Kindness, not hatred.

Informed and appalled Wrote:
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> Josh was an accident and a message to all of our
> local drug-doing denizens: Always have a sober
> trip-sitter.


Or just don't do drugs....

The weirdest posts are those who try to silence those who want answers.

The weirdest posts are those who try to silence those who want answers. WE HAVE TO SPECULATE SINCE THE AUTHORITIES ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH SUBSTANTIVE INFORMATION.

Glad they were from a "good" Christian family.?? That was an odd post. Doesn't matter in the least.

My heart goes out to the families of both children who died, and I am disgusted with some of the comments made on FFXU (on this and many other threads) that evidence a complete lack of regard for decency and human life.

That being said, I DO believe that the public has the right -- and even the need -- to know about deaths by unnatural causes that occur in the county. Moreover, even in the case of suicide (it has been RUMORED that one or both of these cases involved suicide), the public benefits from the shining of sunlight on the situation.

Everytime one of our young ones takes his or her own life, as tragic as that event may be, if the incident is exposed to sunlight, that child's tragedy could serve as an invaluable lesson to parents, educators, authorities, and other children. Those lessons COULD help us prevent future such occurrences. But when the larger community does not know about these tragedies, the community cannot come to understand, detect, and prevent the situations and incidents that compel so many of our children, family members, friends, and neigbhors to take their own lives.

I understand a family's desire for privacy at such a tragic time. But the unnatural death of a person in our commmunity should not be made a super secret. When that happens, rampant and unfounded rumors are spread and noone is able to learn the vital lessons that are necessary to prevent future such occurrences.

Does anyone know what ACTUALLY happened with the poor WSHS child? Was it a suicide? If so, what was the manner in which it occurred? If the child died by his own hand, Where was he found? Had the child been the victim of bullying? If so, was the bullying being carried out in school, in CyberSpace, or elsewhere? If the bullying was occurring in school, Were school officials aware of it? If school officials were aware of the bullying, did they do anything to stop it? If school officials were aware and did nothing to stop the bullying, are these officials being held accountable for their lack of action? If the child was a victim of bullying, are the children who were perpetrating the abuse being held to account? Are the laws of the Commonwealth and county adequate to hold such bullies to account?

The above questions are NOT questions being posed for voyueristic reasons. They have been posed because these tragedies need to stop. They will only stop when they are exposed to the antiseptic of sunshine. Perhaps then, we will have the tools we need to save future children from the fate that the young WSHS child was a victim of.

How about you respect the privacy of the family and fuck off instead of being such a nosy little bitch?

>>W4uE9 wrote:

>>How about you respect the privacy of the family and fuck off instead of being such a nosy little bitch?

Ignoring the profanity for the moment, my response to W4uE9 is that we don't want more of our children killing themselves. The questions I posed are a subset of a number of critical questions that need to be addressed if we are to help prevent more of our children from taking that tragic course.

We can stick out head in the sand and ignore those questions. or we can roll up our sleeves and come to the aid of our community.

It was those damn bigfoots that did it.

Whatever foreign substance caused John and Josh to lose their mental faculties and die needs to be tracked to its source. Anything that causes people to get strangulated or jump in a creek and die that is a crime.

I heard it Was baked into some food or what not? Then the police had seen it in John's room but didn't take a evidence sample, or they did later? How long does remain dangerous if left out in the air?

Deeply saddened Wrote:
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> I am both shocked and sickened by the content of
> this thread, as a parent and a member of this
> community- the curiosity and concern that started
> this thread are consistent with human nature but
> the lack of respect and unfounded assumption are
> just hateful. If you have nothing but political
> conspiracy and slander to add to a conversation
> about loss of life, you really shouldn't be
> wasting your time on this, surely there is a
> government agency desperately in need of your
> valuable input and intellectual contribution to
> the prevention of young boys dying. However, if
> you have not been selected to join the
> investigation, perhaps you're opinions are just
> the product of boredom or having nothing better to
> do with your time.
> When a child is bullied, it is a problem, when a
> child is bullied to the point that it causes
> depression or costs him his life, it is a tragedy.
> When did death become platform for a soapbox rant
> rather than a deep concern for the value of life
> and a call to action for prevention? Oh, probably
> because they weren't your kids, or your family-
> therefore it's fine.
> As for Josh Lutton, he was not some punk kid with
> a drug problem, he was a kind and sweet soul, one
> with parents and a church that adored him. He was
> a believer of Jesus Christ and a child of the one
> true God; slander his good name, as you will, but
> know that you're wrong in what you've turned these
> tragedies into. Just because people, young and
> old, struggle with the ways of this world or the
> pains and trials of this life, it doesn't take
> away the value of their life to their friends,
> family or communities- your opinions and wild,
> uninformed tangents are a reflection of your own
> struggles with the ways of this world; obviously
> John and Josh didn't deal with their pain and
> struggles by sitting at a computer spewing hate
> and discourse to a grieving community. Gosh, looks
> to me like our world is worse off, we've lost the
> gentle souls that choose peace and sadly, struggle
> silently and we're left with angry self-righteous
> fools that wouldn't know the difference. Shame on
> you, the God of the universe came to save us while
> we were still sinners, not when we met some
> standard of perfection. Jesus came for the lost
> and broken; perfect people like you don't need a
> savior I guess.
> Have some respect for the parents of these boys,
> if there is even a tiny shred of kindness in your
> ugly-grinch heart, recognize that people will be
> celebrating Christmas without their loved ones
> this year and political opinion and character
> bashing can do nothing but harm. If you really
> care abuot your community, try to help not harm.
> Condolences, not conspiracy. Kindness, not hatred.


Some very good points. However drugs are never the answer to problems.

Hey mr. ex cop,

Before you go ASS-U-ming that they were using drugs and had "problems", wait for the investigations to finish. Everybody has some kind of problems or another.

Number one they didn't take drugs, it was a foreign substance that caused them to act irrational and lose their lives. They didn't have control over what they were doing at that point. Number two, maybe they didn't know they were ingesting anything. Maybe someone gave them a Propel drink or food like cookies or what not that had the substance in it, which they ingested unknowingly.

When they arrest the guilty parties there will be a trial and all the details can come out. Until then have some respect and don't assume things.

Yea...cause people go around putting drugs in things and handing it out for free.

Give me a fuckin' break....

Your kids are going to do drugs and some might even die regardless of if you know what happened to these kids...

Save the children, my ass...

More like: fill your nosy need to be in everyone else's business...

Self righteous motherfuckers...

Hey dumbass, people have been giving out drugs for free for a long time. It was a big problem in the 60's and 70's. They gave away drugs to get people hooked and create addicts who would become paying customers.

However these kids did NOT take drugs. The substance they ingested was some kind of chemical not an illegal drug of the typical kind.

People have been putting chemicals in things and handing it out for free for thousands of years, TO MAKE PEOPLE SICK OR KILL THEM.

Sounds like you want to cover this up to protect someone.

Ignorant motherfucker...

X5EvD5R7 Wrote:
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> However these kids did NOT take drugs. The
> substance they ingested was some kind of chemical
> not an illegal drug of the typical kind.


Yes of course. You know exactly what they did... Why don't you go help the police. Tell them you are an expert on this and know exactly what the kids did and didn't do. Stupid prick...


> People have been putting chemicals in things and
> handing it out for free for thousands of years, TO
> MAKE PEOPLE SICK OR KILL THEM.
>

You watch wayyy too much TV....

Conspiracy homicide? Chemical warfare?

Give me a fuckin' break.....

to who ever posted this thank you so much
josh was a good freind of mine i was with him when he got in the water but i never was told his cod you actully took a big wiaght of my head
i was triping with him when died i wached him strugel in the water and have bin blaming my self ever sins i had bin told by some that he mustt have drowned meaning i could have saved him
i had not gone in thinking i would have gone into shock or gotten pulled under
josh was one of my best freinds we had done things like that for years together ive just reasently moved back to nova and its bin rough not having him here but i know i will regret that night for the rest of my life

to who ever posted this thank you so much
josh was a good freind of mine i was with him when he got in the water but i never was told his cod you actully took a big wiaght of my head
i was triping with him when died i wached him strugel in the water and have bin blaming my self ever sins i had bin told by some that he mustt have drowned meaning i could have saved him
i had not gone in thinking i would have gone into shock or gotten pulled under
josh was one of my best freinds we had done things like that for years together ive just reasently moved back to nova and its bin rough not having him here but i know i will regret that night for the rest of my life

John was my brother, he was bullied on the internet and in school. He had never done any research chemical or any drugs for that matter. I am asking that the person responsible for the question on ask.fm come forward and anyone who knows anything inform the police or the family. We are looking for answers and we are desperate...

I had some cyanide pills I got off the silkroad stolen


food tampering deserves a special place in hell

i hope it still carries a death penalty

Both cases are cyanide poisening. Unfortuantely both are sonsiderd suicide.

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actaully in my book i'd guess they were told it was MDMA and because they hadn't payed in the past it was instead cyanide

who would sell that and end up liable for selling it these days ? no one is that stupid

it was probably murder

in todays legal environment no one woudl be dumb enough to sell them cyanide pills, they'd get everything they had taken away and in prison or worse: in tent

reguarless of whether that's right or wrong. no one would be dumb enough to sell cyanide pills

it was probably murder