http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Crack-Down-on-Dulles-Access-Highway-Backtracking-232137191.html

Skip to the bottom of the article and read the last sentence. Not a fucking thing you can do about it, Johnny Law...fuck you! LMFAO!

NOVA.Driver Wrote:
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> http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Cra
> ck-Down-on-Dulles-Access-Highway-Backtracking-2321
> 37191.html
>
> Skip to the bottom of the article and read the
> last sentence. Not a fucking thing you can do
> about it, Johnny Law...fuck you! LMFAO!


Why not start Cracking down on the Illegal Hispanics? I guess a legal citizen not paying a tax is more important.

This is nothing new.

So where is this convienence store on airport property? Do you have to actually go inside the terminal?

Go to the long term parking

Ludwig Wrote:
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> This is nothing new.

Exactly. They have said this for decades.

If youre really worried just drive to the access road and go to one of the hotels. Pull in the parking lot, turn around, and head back the other way. Not one damn thing they can about that.

My complaint with the airport police is ticket prices for airfare went up for increased security at airports. Not sure what running radar on Rt 28 has to do with increased security.

"Basically, some drivers use the airport access highway as part of their commute and avoid the tools, which help pay for the Metro Silver Line and maintenance and improvements in the Dulles Corridor."

Love this line from the story. Avoid the "tools" that are paying for the silver line. Intentional typo?

LOL

They are cracking down on Sasquatch

Someone needs to challenge that.

Driving on a road thats open to the public isnt illegal.

Liberal Logic 29 Wrote:
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> Someone needs to challenge that.
>
> Driving on a road thats open to the public isnt
> illegal.


It's open to the public IF you're on airport business. Sort of like how HOV lanes are open to the public IF you have the minimum # of people in the car. I don't think your case would get very far...

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> It's open to the public IF you're on airport
> business. Sort of like how HOV lanes are open to
> the public IF you have the minimum # of people in
> the car. I don't think your case would get very
> far...


Getting lost isnt a crime though neither is "forgetting" something at home. Then theres the whole issue of police giving state tickets on private property if they go that route.

I agree it would probably fail but the justification is basically because we said so and want the money.

NOVA.Driver Wrote:
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> Skip to the bottom of the article and read the
> last sentence. Not a fucking thing you can do
> about it, Johnny Law...fuck you! LMFAO!

Yeah, you rock, Johnny Dumbshit. The cost of the time and the gas and whatever "convenience" you have stop and buy is going to be more than the toll would have been to start out with. But hey. Stupid is a lifestyle. Embrace it.

Love this Shit Wrote:
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> Why not start Cracking down on the Illegal
> Hispanics? I guess a legal citizen not paying a
> tax is more important.

These Hispanics of yours get up early every morning and work hard all day. Something you wouldn't know about. They pay taxes left and right, even when they can't use the services they are supposedly paying for. It's you dipshit, white-trash, asstard scofflaws who are a problem for society. They should triple the fines and add jail time for backtracking. Take some of these low-grade antisocial paleface squidshits out of circulation for a while.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> If youre really worried just drive to the access
> road and go to one of the hotels. Pull in the
> parking lot, turn around, and head back the other
> way. Not one damn thing they can about that.

The law says you must conduct business at the airport. That term isn't specifically defined within the law, but not many judges are going to buy turning around in a parking lot as conducting business. If the hotel gift shop is open -- most of course are not at 6:00 am -- you could buy something there and keep your receipt. Otherwise you're stuck being the 10th or 12th dummy standing in line to pay for coffee and a twinkie at the gas station. The state decides what you may and may not do on public roads. Best just to drop the macho lame-ass pretense and simply accept that fact.

Actually... Wrote:
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> NOVA.Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Skip to the bottom of the article and read the
> > last sentence. Not a fucking thing you can do
> > about it, Johnny Law...fuck you! LMFAO!
>
> Yeah, you rock, Johnny Dumbshit. The cost of the
> time and the gas and whatever "convenience" you
> have stop and buy is going to be more than the
> toll would have been to start out with. But hey.
> Stupid is a lifestyle. Embrace it.

Meh...some people drive to work and then get their coffee and breakfast from an overpriced "café". I bring breakfast from home and stop at the convenience store at Dulles to get my newspaper. Then I proceed down the Access Road and avoid paying the toll. I've been doing this for 17 years. Oh, I've been stopped a few times but, I show them my receipt and I'm on my way.

You do the math on what I've saved by not paying the tolls...

NOVA.Driver Wrote:
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> Meh...some people drive to work and then get their
> coffee and breakfast from an overpriced "café". I
> bring breakfast from home and stop at the
> convenience store at Dulles to get my newspaper.
> Then I proceed down the Access Road and avoid
> paying the toll. I've been doing this for 17
> years. Oh, I've been stopped a few times but, I
> show them my receipt and I'm on my way.

So, you would be complying with the law and then taunting the pigs for not being able to do anything about it? Here's your sign.

Actually... Wrote:
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> >
> The law says you must conduct business at the
> airport. That term isn't specifically defined
> within the law, but not many judges are going to
> buy turning around in a parking lot as conducting
> business. If the hotel gift shop is open -- most
> of course are not at 6:00 am -- you could buy
> something there and keep your receipt. Otherwise
> you're stuck being the 10th or 12th dummy standing
> in line to pay for coffee and a twinkie at the gas
> station. The state decides what you may and may
> not do on public roads. Best just to drop the
> macho lame-ass pretense and simply accept that
> fact.

Do the cops really have the time to follow me to the hotel parking lot and see if I "conduct any business"? If they do, then we have way too many cops with nothing to do.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Do the cops really have the time to follow me to
> the hotel parking lot and see if I "conduct any
> business"? If they do, then we have way too many
> cops with nothing to do.

Well, they are apparently snagging up to 50 people per day. But don't worry. You're real smart. They'll never catch you.

Buy 1 cent of gas at the Exxon station next to the rental car returns and keep the receipt for the cop/judge. Or is there a minimum amount of "business" that I have to conduct stated in the statute? If a cup of coffee is ok...

If the toll road is jammed up it's certainly easier and cheaper than paying the tolls.

Actually... Wrote:
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>
>
> Well, they are apparently snagging up to 50 people
> per day. But don't worry. You're real smart.
> They'll never catch you.

" I have to take a piss Officer. Would you like to follow me and watch?"

Actually... Wrote:
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> These Hispanics of yours get up early every
> morning and work hard all day. Something you
> wouldn't know about. They pay taxes left and
> right, even when they can't use the services they
> are supposedly paying for. It's you dipshit,
> white-trash, asstard scofflaws who are a problem
> for society. They should triple the fines and add
> jail time for backtracking. Take some of these
> low-grade antisocial paleface squidshits out of
> circulation for a while.

What kind of bullshit propaganda is this?

They need to open the Dulles Access Road up to the masses...why do passengers get a special road all to themselves while a gazillion cars jam up the toll road every day...makes no sense!

Drivereight Wrote:
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> They need to open the Dulles Access Road up to the
> masses...why do passengers get a special road all
> to themselves while a gazillion cars jam up the
> toll road every day...makes no sense!


Key word Toll road. If they put a toll on the access road theyd probably be open to that idea. Its all just about funneling people through the over priced toll booths.

So if I buy my teenth of meth at the Dulles Marriot parking lot and get a reciept, I'll be OK?

Yo, Badger! Keep it on the down low, aiight?

Police Crack Down on Dulles Access Highway “Backtracking”
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Crack-Down-on-Dulles-Access-Highway-Backtracking-232137191.html

Police are cracking down on drivers who skip the Dulles Toll Plaza and use the access highway illegally.

The access road running parallel to the Dulles Toll Road is supposed to be for people going to the airport.

"I follow the rules and I see most other people follow the rules, but some people don't,” Raul Woodley said.

Basically, some drivers use the airport access highway as part of their commute and avoid the tools, which help pay for the Metro Silver Line and maintenance and improvements in the Dulles Corridor.

So police launched a highly visible enforcement effort. Electronic signs alerting drivers to the enforcement were placed at key points and police, some in unmarked vehicles, pull drivers over when it becomes clear they aren’t there for the airport.

"We issued 50 violations the other day, two additional violations for reckless driving,” Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority Police Chief Stephen Holl said. “Officers, state troopers and Virginia State Police assisted us as well."

“Backtracking” violations carry a penalty of three points on the license and fines starting at $92. The fines are paid to the county where the violation occurs.

Some drivers use a loophole: They will stop at a gas station convenience store on airport property, buy something like a cup of coffee, and use the receipt as proof they conducted airport business. MWAA police said they can't stop you from doing that.

What is the law or code that says that "backtracking" is illegal?

Police crack down on illegal use of airport access highway
Citation can mean monetary fine, lost license points

http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20131126/NEWS/131129283/1117/police-crack-down-on-illegal-use-of-airport-access-highway&template=fairfaxTimes

If you’re thinking about using the Dulles Access Highway for “non-airport business” to avoid tolls or traffic, it will cost you. That’s the message Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority Police Chief Stephen L. Holl wants to get out to the public.

To get that message across, MWAA Police are currently posting special patrols to catch drivers making u-turns at Washington Dulles International Airport simply to avoid use of the toll road. This illegal practice is known as “backtracking” and is punishable by a monetary fine and lost points on a violator’s drivers license.

“Backtracking is a moving violation that carries a penalty of three points plus fines beginning at $92. It is cheating and it is illegal,” Holl said. “It’s not fair to those who play by the rules and stick to the Toll Road for commuting and local travel. Our ongoing efforts to curb this illegal practice will help ensure the access highway is used properly.”

Mobile electronic signs placed at key points around Dulles International Airport currently advise drivers of the enforcement action. Police — some in unmarked cars — will pull over and ticket drivers once it becomes clear they are using the Access Highway without conducting airport business. According to Holl, official “airport business” is a somewhat cryptic term that can be redefined each year by judges hearing the cases of ticketed drivers pleading their cases. Nonetheless, police will ticket anyone suspected of the illegal activity.

“We give out about 1,000 tickets for backtracking each year,” Holl said.

According to MWAA, the Airports Authority does not receive money from these fines. Instead, fines are paid to the county in which the citation is written. Revenue from the Dulles Toll Road pays for the operation and maintenance of the road and helps fund construction of the Metrorail Silver Line in the Dulles Corridor.

“The majority of the citations are issued in Fairfax County,” said MWAA spokesman Rob Yingling.

According to Yingling, besides illegally avoiding tolls and traffic backups at toll booths, backtrackers also reduce the convenience of the Access Highway for airport users and add extra congestion to the HOV segment of I-66 inside the Capital Beltway, which has exceptions for airport traffic.

MWAA operates and maintains both the Dulles Airport Access Road and the Dulles Toll Road and manages construction of the Metro Silver Line project.

“No taxpayer money is used to operate the toll road, which is funded by toll revenues, or the airports, which are funded through aircraft landing fees, rents and revenues from concessions,” said Yingling. “The Silver Line construction is funded by a combination of toll-road revenues, airport contributions and federal, state and local government appropriations.”

MWAA employs its own police force to maintain order along both the toll road and access highway and in both Dulles and Reagan airports.“We have about 220 police officers total,” said Holl.

What is the law or code that says that "backtracking" is illegal?

That article says "Police — some in unmarked cars — will pull over and ticket drivers once it becomes clear they are using the Access Highway without conducting airport business. According to Holl, official “airport business” is a somewhat cryptic term that can be redefined each year by judges hearing the cases of ticketed drivers pleading their cases."

It sounds to me like the no one knows what the law forbids until they get to court. To me, that means it is unconstitutionally vague.

How can we be expected to obey a law that doesn't specify what it forbids?

Question for the group Wrote:
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> What is the law or code that says that
> "backtracking" is illegal?


I got a ticket one time years ago for using the airport lanes.

It was a "failure to obey a street sign" ticket, carried a minimal fine & no points.

There are/were signs strategically placed saying the lanes are for airport use only. I have no idea what this "backtracking" thing is.

Maybe just a scare tactic to make the threat sound worse than it is?

Actually... Wrote:
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> These Hispanics of yours get up early every
> morning and work hard all day. Something you
> wouldn't know about. They pay taxes left and
> right, even when they can't use the services they
> are supposedly paying for. It's you dipshit,
> white-trash, asstard scofflaws who are a problem
> for society. They should triple the fines and add
> jail time for backtracking. Take some of these
> low-grade antisocial paleface squidshits out of
> circulation for a while.

Jail time for backtracking? You clearly have it all figured out. Kiss my ass and lick my balls.

Love this Shit Wrote:
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> NOVA.Driver Wrote:
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> >
> http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Cra
>
> >
> ck-Down-on-Dulles-Access-Highway-Backtracking-2321
>
> > 37191.html
> >
> > Skip to the bottom of the article and read the
> > last sentence. Not a fucking thing you can do
> > about it, Johnny Law...fuck you! LMFAO!
>
>
> Why not start Cracking down on the Illegal
> Hispanics? I guess a legal citizen not paying a
> tax is more important.

You know, because Hispanics are the only ethnicity than can be "illegal" -- ever heard of overstaying a visa asshole?