If you are gifted a gun, and do not have an open carry permit, MUST you open carry? If so, is it okay? Do you need any type of gun license/permit, etc?

P.S. - not a felon

There is no open carry permit. Anyone who is legally allowed to own a gun can open carry as long as thats not illegal in that place (eg bank, courthouse ect), .

You HAVE to have it visable though. If you cover it up youre conceal carrying which you do have to have a permit for. Without a concealed carry the only way you can carry is open carry. That appliies in the car too the gun either needs to be out of your reach in like the trunk or laying on the passanger seat so its visible if a cop walks up.

Do yourself and other citizens a favor and take a class from an NRA instructor or from one of the local gun shops, don't play cowboy and start toting a gun around until you know the laws and know how to use a firearm safely.

Why are people not allowed to bring a gun into the Rayburn building?
The replicants control the house, scream about the 2nd amendment and how much safer we would all be if we all carried a gun. Seems they would live what they preach....

Please read.........

http://www.vcdl.org/CarryInfo

Sorry meant concealed carry, lol.

So, without one - I MUST carry it openly.

That being said - I don't need any kind of...anything to show that I am able to own a firearm?

I will do whatever the law requires but my friend said if he gifts it to me and I open carry, it's fine as long as I have no felonies or violent charges?

Seems almost too easy..

Open carry a gun, legal

Open carry a beer, illegal.

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> There is no open carry permit. Anyone who is
> legally allowed to own a gun can open carry as
> long as thats not illegal in that place (eg bank,
> courthouse ect), .
>
> You HAVE to have it visable though. If you cover
> it up youre conceal carrying which you do have to
> have a permit for. Without a concealed carry the
> only way you can carry is open carry. That
> appliies in the car too the gun either needs to be
> out of your reach in like the trunk or laying on
> the passanger seat so its visible if a cop walks
> up.

Big difference between courthouse and bank. A bank is private property, the property owner has the authority to restrict people from doing certain things. So, at most - it would be a trespassing charge as they would ask you to leave and you would of course, need to refuse to leave.

Courthouse and school zones are a different category.

But realistically, "gun free zones" are stupid. One would think bank robberies would never happen when those signs at the door saying "no guns". LOL

Real question Wrote:
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> Why are people not allowed to bring a gun into the
> Rayburn building?
> The replicants control the house, scream about the
> 2nd amendment and how much safer we would all be
> if we all carried a gun. Seems they would live
> what they preach....


Because it would be open season on libtards like you.

US Post Office----------->FEDERAL BUILDING (Owned or rented)

People forget that one all the time.

Gifted a gun Wrote:
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> If you are gifted a gun, and do not have an open
> carry permit, MUST you open carry? If so, is it
> okay? Do you need any type of gun license/permit,
> etc?

Until you get a concealed gun permit, Why do you need to carry the gun at all?

If you are simply transporting it home, as others have suggested lock it in the trunk. If you are taking it hunting or shooting, the same applies. You only need to be carrying it around when you are at the site, and I would assume this is a somewhat private area where only others with guns are likely to be. The last thing you want to be doing is hauling the thing around in public. Even assuming it is perfectly legal (chances are it is), you are still likely to cause a panic, and next thing you know one of Fairfax's finest is likely to be pointing his weapon at you.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Gifted a gun Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you are gifted a gun, and do not have an
> open
> > carry permit, MUST you open carry? If so, is it
> > okay? Do you need any type of gun
> license/permit,
> > etc?
>
> Until you get a concealed gun permit, Why do you
> need to carry the gun at all?
>
> If you are simply transporting it home, as others
> have suggested lock it in the trunk. If you are
> taking it hunting or shooting, the same applies.
> You only need to be carrying it around when you
> are at the site, and I would assume this is a
> somewhat private area where only others with guns
> are likely to be. The last thing you want to be
> doing is hauling the thing around in public. Even
> assuming it is perfectly legal (chances are it
> is), you are still likely to cause a panic, and
> next thing you know one of Fairfax's finest is
> likely to be pointing his weapon at you.

I've opened carried almost every day for the last 3 years in FFX County. The only time I've ever been stopped by police was to thank me for open carrying.

Howell Wrote:
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> Open carry a gun, legal
>
> Open carry a beer, illegal.


You can carry a beer in the open....it just can not be an open beer.

Mr GFR Wrote:
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> Howell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Open carry a gun, legal
> >
> > Open carry a beer, illegal.
>
>
> You can carry a beer in the open....it just can
> not be an open beer.


Touche'

Mr GFR Wrote:
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> Howell Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Open carry a gun, legal
> >
> > Open carry a beer, illegal.
>
>
> You can carry a beer in the open....it just can
> not be an open beer.



Right.

You can open carry a beer but cannot open carry and open beer. Got it?

oops. an* not and

Whatever you do, don't have a gun in your car and then get on the 395 northbound HOV lane. You never know when the last VA exit will be closed and you have to enter DC to do a U turn.

Driver Wrote:
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> Whatever you do, don't have a gun in your car and
> then get on the 395 northbound HOV lane. You
> never know when the last VA exit will be closed
> and you have to enter DC to do a U turn.


Yeah, No citizen can have a hand gun in DC..The gun laws work so well! There is NO gun crime In DC.
It's the same in Baltimore, They have ZERO killings from hand guns, or imitating looking guns because the citizens are not armed.
It's a Perfect peaceful society.

liberal logic 103 Wrote:
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>
> Yeah, No citizen can have a hand gun in DC..The
> gun laws work so well! There is NO gun crime In
> DC.
> It's the same in Baltimore, They have ZERO
> killings from hand guns, or imitating looking guns
> because the citizens are not armed.
> It's a Perfect peaceful society.

Exactly! I agree! The gun laws of the District of Killumbia and Murderland are such an inspiration to all libertards like Mikhail Doomberg as to a model of law and order.

*puke*



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2013 12:00AM by JoeBob.

Gifted a gun Wrote:
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> Sorry meant concealed carry, lol.
>
> So, without one - I MUST carry it openly.
>
> That being said - I don't need any kind
> of...anything to show that I am able to own a
> firearm?
>
> I will do whatever the law requires but my friend
> said if he gifts it to me and I open carry, it's
> fine as long as I have no felonies or violent
> charges?
>
> Seems almost too easy..

You have to be legally able to own a gun to open carry it. Youll have to have a state issued ID on you at all times proving youre over 21 and dont be surpirsed if a cop or two runs your name through their system.

But yes you can ONLY open carry if you dont have a concealed carry

JustanFYI Wrote:
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> Big difference between courthouse and bank. A
> bank is private property, the property owner has
> the authority to restrict people from doing
> certain things. So, at most - it would be a
> trespassing charge as they would ask you to leave
> and you would of course, need to refuse to leave.

Im not sure what would happen if the bank wanted to press charges instead of asking you to leave if it was marked on the door. Anywhere is legally allowed to ask you to leave but I think there might be an extra penalty if it was clearly marked before entering.

The courthouse though would definitely get a lot of guns pointed right at you.

> Courthouse and school zones are a different
> category.
>
> But realistically, "gun free zones" are stupid.
> One would think bank robberies would never happen
> when those signs at the door saying "no guns".
> LOL

LOL I always laugh when people think a criminal is going to see the sign and say dam. Theres a reason why certain bank branches always get robbed and its because theyre gun free.

If it was so effective why dont those people mark their houses as gun free zones as well?

Driver Wrote:
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> Whatever you do, don't have a gun in your car and
> then get on the 395 northbound HOV lane. You
> never know when the last VA exit will be closed
> and you have to enter DC to do a U turn.


You can actually drive through there with it in your car if its in the trunk and you dont stop in DC at all. That of course wont prevent them from making something up but you are legally allowed to pass through if youre going somewhere else.

Please seek training on the mechanics, safety and proper use of that Firearm you will be carrying for self defense. Without the established muscle memory of proper Firearm manipulation, in a stressful situation, that firearm will not serve any purpose other than an object for show.

You will be dead or a major liability if not properly trained. Basic handgun training will not cut it(Draw, shoot, holster, while standing in one place). Seek Advanced Handgun Training.


-Proper Care and Maintenance of the Weapon

-Civil Liability of the Use of Firearms

-Criminal Liability of the Use of Firearms

-Weapon Retention

-Deadly Force

-Justifiable Deadly Force

-Range Safety

-Practical Firearms Handling

-Principles of Marksmanship

-Decision-Making

-Judgmental Shooting

-Dim Low Level Light Shooting Familiarization

-Addressing all types of malfunctions

-Force on Force Drills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTr8xvkUWp4

Stay Safe, Patriot.

liberal logic 27 Wrote:
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> You have to be legally able to own a gun to open
> carry it. Youll have to have a state issued ID on
> you at all times proving youre over 21 and dont be
> surpirsed if a cop or two runs your name through
> their system.
>
> But yes you can ONLY open carry if you dont have a
> concealed carry


Thank you very much for your straightforward answer.

You may be seeking double trouble if you open carry without training and studying of the resources and advice here:

http://vaguninfo.com/index.htm

The age of legal open carry is actually 18, per:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308.7

You have to be 21 to obtain a Concealed Handgun Permit and meet the requirements. Virginia has issued approximately 279,000 CHPs. The Virginia State Adult Population (age 20 or over) per U.S. 2010 Census: 5,917,339. Pg 67 of

http://www.gao.gov/assets/600/592552.pdf

you cannot be gifted a gun idiot

you have to be registered as the owner.

that way if you hold someone up they know who to put on the death chair.

oh and they want to delay you with paper work and bill you for lots of crap you shouldn't have to pay for. oh well, that's today's gov worker. i'm sure they show you a brochure of what you can do with your gun, and they'll make you sign it i'd guess.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2013 06:49PM by svennestle.

don't forget to sign up for NRA. they have a great magazine !!

the law used to be for rifles.

no round in the chamber or magazine if your driving through town (or walking?). you had to have the ammo in the trunk and gun in the car or vice versa.

concealed weapons .... well you couldn't have them concealed and armed while shopping i'll tell you that

common sense

use a gun cabinet. be safe. and buy union made in the usa !

svennestle Wrote:
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> the law used to be for rifles.
>
> no round in the chamber or magazine if your
> driving through town (or walking?). you had to
> have the ammo in the trunk and gun in the car or
> vice versa.
>
> concealed weapons .... well you couldn't have them
> concealed and armed while shopping i'll tell you
> that
>
> common sense
>
> use a gun cabinet. be safe. and buy union made
> in the usa !


One post would have been more than sufficent especially since you arent even posting correct things. Theres no gun registry in VA for starters

svennestle Wrote:
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> the law used to be for rifles.
>
> no round in the chamber or magazine if your
> driving through town (or walking?). you had to
> have the ammo in the trunk and gun in the car or
> vice versa.
>
> concealed weapons .... well you couldn't have them
> concealed and armed while shopping i'll tell you
> that
>
> common sense
>
> use a gun cabinet. be safe. and buy union made
> in the usa !

You can have a weapon loaded, or unloaded, chambered round or not - does not matter. If I'm going to carry, I'm going to have one chambered. In a situation where a split second counts and I need to potentially save my life, I don't have time to load a round in the chamber first.

Rather then wasting your time posting incorrect information, go ahead and put a sign in your hard saying that your home is a gun free zone and let me know how that works out for you.

I am a gun owner and strong supporter of the rights to keep and bear arms by citizens of this nation.

One thing that bothers me a lot is the need for all these people I am starting to see walking around stores with pistols on thier belts. If they only knew how they looked doing it and if anything it is having a negative impact on peoples view of gun ownership.

In a country where concealed weapon permits are easy for law abiding citizens to obtain there is no need to create a negative view of gun ownership so go get a permit.

OverseaObserver Wrote:
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> Please seek training on the mechanics, safety and
> proper use of that Firearm you will be carrying
> for self defense. Without the established muscle
> memory of proper Firearm manipulation, in a
> stressful situation, that firearm will not serve
> any purpose other than an object for show.
>
> You will be dead or a major liability if not
> properly trained. Basic handgun training will not
> cut it(Draw, shoot, holster, while standing in one
> place). Seek Advanced Handgun Training.
>
>
> -Proper Care and Maintenance of the Weapon
>
> -Civil Liability of the Use of Firearms
>
> -Criminal Liability of the Use of Firearms
>
> -Weapon Retention
>
> -Deadly Force
>
> -Justifiable Deadly Force
>
> -Range Safety
>
> -Practical Firearms Handling
>
> -Principles of Marksmanship
>
> -Decision-Making
>
> -Judgmental Shooting
>
> -Dim Low Level Light Shooting Familiarization
>
> -Addressing all types of malfunctions
>
> -Force on Force Drills
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTr8xvkUWp4
>
> Stay Safe, Patriot.

Agreed. Magpul actually changed the curriculum to be more focused on fundamentals and skills then shooting under cars but a solid 1000 round class will leave you properly prepared to carry a gun. Also teaches you how to shoot and how to practice. If I choose to open carry (which is rare only if I'm driving to the range) I know I can safely and efficiently use the weapon if the situation arises. Generally I carry concealed. I feel like a dork walking around with a holstered gun when I'm not a cop. That being said if open carry is your thing then carry on....

I open carry all the time. To the people saying there is no point or makes you look foolish obviously don't know how useful a visual deterrent is. I have been in situations that would have been hairy for me if I didn't have a gun on my waste. Usually one look at my waste and the dumb knife wielding drunk guy loses his nerve. No need to actually draw my weapon for him to see it.

As for keeping your gun in your trunk that is a foolish idea. Even if you do not have a concealed carry permit you can keep your gun in your glove compartment or center console and still be fine.

I would suggest joining the NRA and taking a class sometime. There is a lot of information to be had. Don't rely with what you see here on a forum. People seem to be posting their beliefs rather than facts. Learn the law, it'll only help you in the long run.

Also, the police here in Fairfax county generally knowledgeable about open carry and you won't have "Fairfax's finest is likely to be pointing his weapon at you."

And last but not least, it is perfectly fine to open carry a gifted gun. The only thing you want to make sure of is that the gun was not used in a crime before it's ownership passed to you.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2013 03:12AM by michael.

I back the 2nd amendment to my death. But, most of the people I see wearing guns on thier "waste" are attention grabing dorks who give all normal gun owners a bad name.

michael Wrote:
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> As for keeping your gun in your trunk that is a
> foolish idea. Even if you do not have a concealed
> carry permit you can keep your gun in your glove
> compartment or center console and still be fine.

No not really. If your glove box locks and you have it locked you can, center console no you cant. You cant have it concealed in the car unless its out of your reach or locked up without a concealed carry.

If youre going out of state through some gun hating places like DC that thing better be in your trunk locked up. Also have fun if you forget to tell the cop its in your glove box and you open it up to get your registration and all of a sudden a guns there.

Virginia state law

§ 18.2-308. Carrying concealed weapons; exceptions; penalty.
10. Any person who may lawfully possess a firearm and is carrying a handgun while in a personal, private motor vehicle or vessel and such handgun is secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel;

No where does it say the container must be locked. Ive taken the classes, read the laws, and talked to police officers, and have made sure it is absolutely legal.

Here is the link to the law so you can read through yourself.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308

Driving out of state is a whole other problem.

Posted by: michael ()
Date: September 08, 2013 01:44PM

Virginia state law

read it. did you notice they recently repealed a huge section of law? the laws prevented people who murdered others from later owning the land of those they killed (obviously: preventing profit of crime). been on the books since who knows when: REPEALED.

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1) there are 2000 years of law. VA can take powers the constitution and old laws they USED did not with-hold.

2) it's not what's written in law: but how well in Equity they adjudicate and follow laws , that matters

that is why the Rules of the Supreme Court refer to an Equity Court. the rules of the court of ussc used to be the laws of Equity.

until busch and clinton got in and wrote things like "%99.9 of people filing won't be answered" into the rules of the court, that is. in 1997 adn 2007 esp. but also since: they are just hackign legislation without any good basis for law. without using clear and plain language. without informing the public. without any firmness it will be interpeted a particular with. wihtout fair enforcement between citizens and government (private / public law). without anything but strengthining the often hostile position of government labor unions.

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what is more important is how they do Equity, not how man volumes it resides in

i can state equity law in a pamphlet, and any smart person can infer how to apply it

or i can spell out every detail un-necessarily in a huge library of twisted rules

but if gov ignores it: what difference does it make ?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2013 03:31PM by svennestle.