Congress asleep at the switch on offshore drilling
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130705/OPINION/130709650/1065/congress-asleep-at-the-switch-on-offshore-drilling&template=fairfaxTimes

The Southern Environmental Law Center applauds Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Dist. 11) for voting against a measure in the House of Representatives that would mandate drilling off of Virginia’s coast. This legislation, which has unfortunately moved forward, threatens coastal communities and ecosystems that rely on clean water for everything from tourism to fishing. Statewide, tourism in the Commonwealth alone generates more than $17 billion annually. It’s a core component of the economy that deserves our protection.

And yet, Congress has done nothing to address the safety and environmental concerns raised by the Deepwater Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico more than three years ago — a disaster that claimed 11 lives and caused billions of dollars in damage to coastal economies. Rather than ensuring the very real threats from offshore drilling are addressed, this bill steamrolls current laws that at least require careful consideration of the effects of drilling in the Atlantic and alternative proposals before there are rigs in the water.

Thank you for standing up for your constituents’ right to enjoy the legacy of vibrant coastal communities in the South. We stand with you in working to see that this misguided effort never makes it to the president’s desk.

Cale Jaffe

The writer is director of the Virginia office of the Southern Environmental Law Center.

Another win for Gerry and Fairfax County against big oil and jobs. He chased Exxon/Mobil back to Texas (along with the 1000 high paying jobs and millions of $$$$ in community service and outreach they did) and now this. Thank gosh we have Gerry at the switch and not someone who wants to grow the economy and help the community at large. Plus, he's quite the looker too.....

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In the closet with Gerry Wrote:
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> Another win for Gerry and Fairfax County against
> big oil and jobs. He chased Exxon/Mobil back to
> Texas (along with the 1000 high paying jobs and
> millions of $$$$ in community service and outreach
> they did) and now this. Thank gosh we have Gerry
> at the switch and not someone who wants to grow
> the economy and help the community at large.
> Plus, he's quite the looker too.....
>
> .

So you're for drilling off the coast of Va? What happens if there's a spill?

First, there is nothing in this measure which would "mandate" drilling. This is disingenuous word play by opponents and appears to be intentional and coordinated since that same wording is included as a talking point in numerous anti-drilling articles and statements by various groups.

What it actually does is to include this and other similar areas in the Federal Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Plan. As they were prior to issuance of the most recent plan. This is a necessary step which initiates various environmental, economic, and other assessments prior to permitting Federal leases to be sold in the areas. Without this, nothing at all, even study, can be done at the Federal level until the next OCS Plan is released, typically on a 5-year cycle (assuming no delays).

Second, again reflecting more disingenuous wording, while "Congress" itself may not have taken up specific measures in the regard noted, there have been substantial actions at the Federal level to change and improve safety and environmental aspects of deep-water and other production. Otherwise, you're effectively conceding that the Obama administration has done nothing following the accident which really isn't the case. But it is short of shutting down production entirely which is the only thing which would satisfy many groups.

Third, comparing shallow-water shelf drilling/production as in the case of VA to very deep-water production in the Gulf and the Horizon incident in particular also is inappropriate. The primary issue contributing to the Horizon incident was the great depth itself. Had it been a more standard-depth well, it would have been done and over very quickly.

It's fine to have whatever position you may want re drilling offshore in VA, but don't play bs games with the facts in an attempt to manipulate public opinion for political purposes.

They should have said any profits would go to illegals and those on welfare. Might have made a difference.

Dems hate anything that might create private sector jobs or reduce energy dependence on their muslim brotherhood cohorts. God forbid someone profit from taking a big risk to provide something of value to society, like the energy that hypocritical douchebag libs demonize but use every day.

This fucking idiot. Yet another example. We are paying some $3.60 for a gallon, and people like the Weasel, would rather import oil from hostile regions. Thanks a lot Weasel, for fucking your constituents once again.

1. The bill did not "mandate" oil drilling. That's moronic and a complete lie. 2. Yes, because energy jobs suck for the families who rely on them. 3. Yes, because high gas prices are good for everyone. 4. Yes, because importing foreign oil is such a damn good idea. 5. Do you own a car? Lawn mower? Ever need an ambulance to get the hospital? Do you have A/C in your house? Use the phone? Laptop?

Gerry Connolly seems to vote against Fairfax County and Virginia in every vote that matters. Why is this? Is he expecting a high-paid appointment to something else?

Flip side of the coin, wildlife fisheries is a billion dollar per year industry for Virginia and DelMarVa peninsular you fuckin moron. So when you put that at risk, as was done in the gulf of mexico, you better make sure its for more than the measily reserves that exist off of virginias coast. Oh and by the way, we could generate the exact same amount of energy without putting fisheries at risk over the course of 50 years via wind farms which Republicans in this state have been fighting against for a decade.

So shut the fuck up and move if you dont like it here ass wipe

RangerRikki Wrote:
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> 1. The bill did not "mandate" oil drilling.
> That's moronic and a complete lie. 2. Yes,
> because energy jobs suck for the families who rely
> on them. 3. Yes, because high gas prices are
> good for everyone. 4. Yes, because importing
> foreign oil is such a damn good idea. 5. Do you
> own a car? Lawn mower? Ever need an ambulance to
> get the hospital? Do you have A/C in your house?
> Use the phone? Laptop?


Looks like the Chevron commercials are working on your tiny brain. The US is now a net exporter of energy. All that shale and nat gas we discovered? The shale oil is exported to europe so they can charge more, and not a single cents worth of effect from all that new fuel has affected US consumer prices (because oil prices are about what they can get away with charging, not what the supply demand curve indicate). Oil is a non-plastic commodity you idiots.

Oh and Natural gas, the savior of the US energy? Yea its a waste product. Some reserves are literally being thrown away to get to more expensive shale instead because the price of Nat Gas is so cheap no one wants to sell it right now.

Lemmings

Why reelect Gerry Connolly? Wrote:
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> Gerry Connolly seems to vote against Fairfax
> County and Virginia in every vote that matters.
> Why is this? Is he expecting a high-paid
> appointment to something else?


Because fairfax county voters are dumb enough as a whole to keep voting in a liberal ideologue who couldnt care less about people.

Wildlife Fisheries Wrote:
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> Flip side of the coin, wildlife fisheries is a
> billion dollar per year industry for Virginia and
> DelMarVa peninsular you fuckin moron. So when you
> put that at risk, as was done in the gulf of
> mexico, you better make sure its for more than the
> measily reserves that exist off of virginias
> coast. Oh and by the way, we could generate the
> exact same amount of energy without putting
> fisheries at risk over the course of 50 years via
> wind farms which Republicans in this state have
> been fighting against for a decade.
>
> So shut the fuck up and move if you dont like it
> here ass wipe

No you couldnt do it with windfarms. Windfarms barely work in the midwest where they are best suited and take up a ton of land for little power. You cannot run the country on wind or solar period, only idiots think you can.

Not to mention its much more expensive

Wildlife Fisheries Wrote:
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> Flip side of the coin, wildlife fisheries is a
> billion dollar per year industry for Virginia and
> DelMarVa peninsular you fuckin moron. So when you
> put that at risk, as was done in the gulf of
> mexico, you better make sure its for more than the
> measily reserves that exist off of virginias
> coast. Oh and by the way, we could generate the
> exact same amount of energy without putting
> fisheries at risk over the course of 50 years via
> wind farms which Republicans in this state have
> been fighting against for a decade.
>
> So shut the fuck up and move if you dont like it
> here ass wipe


"Wildlife fisheries" huh.

Trying to use terms to make yourself seem like you know what you're talking about doesn't work when you fuck it up. lol

And actually, depending on what you want to count, you could push the number to around $2.5 billion so you don't even get that right.

You have no clue how much is there in terms of reserves because there's not been much if any exploration precisely because the areas have been off limits.

Furthermore, electricity generation largely serves stationary uses which are fairly easy to meet any number of ways so your windmill solution doesn't fit well with the reality of disparate energy applications and markets. Liquid fuels (oil and gas) primarily serve transportation applications (car, trucks, boats, etc.) which are not and very likely will not be for many, many years helped by greater electricity production.

The "net exporter" stuff largely is a fallacy. We still import more and consume much more than we produce. And the current surge in surplus is far from being guaranteed to continue as is being subject to world market pricing with a generally declining resource base and greatly increasing consumption worldwide.

Liberal Logic 15 Wrote:
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> Wildlife Fisheries Wrote:
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> -----
> > Flip side of the coin, wildlife fisheries is a
> > billion dollar per year industry for Virginia
> and
> > DelMarVa peninsular you fuckin moron. So when
> you
> > put that at risk, as was done in the gulf of
> > mexico, you better make sure its for more than
> the
> > measily reserves that exist off of virginias
> > coast. Oh and by the way, we could generate the
> > exact same amount of energy without putting
> > fisheries at risk over the course of 50 years
> via
> > wind farms which Republicans in this state have
> > been fighting against for a decade.
> >
> > So shut the fuck up and move if you dont like
> it
> > here ass wipe
>
> No you couldnt do it with windfarms. Windfarms
> barely work in the midwest where they are best
> suited and take up a ton of land for little power.
> You cannot run the country on wind or solar
> period, only idiots think you can.
>
> Not to mention its much more expensive


100 sq mile solar array would meet countries electricity needs
From my understanding

You can always count on Gerry to vote exactly the opposite of the best interests of Virginians.

I don't want to go to the beach and see this shit...
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Offshore drilling in VA wouldn't create any jobs. It's very hard and dirty work and you have to know what you're doing. That lets out the pussies that live in VA.

They'll have to send crews up from Texas and Louisiana to do the work.

Thanks Gerry Wrote:
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> I don't want to go to the beach and see this
> shit...


That happens in water regardless of oil wells. In fact, that picture is not even from the ocean, which is where the drilling would take place anyhow. Retard.

Liberal Logic 15 Wrote:
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> Wildlife Fisheries Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Flip side of the coin, wildlife fisheries is a
> > billion dollar per year industry for Virginia
> and
> > DelMarVa peninsular you fuckin moron. So when
> you
> > put that at risk, as was done in the gulf of
> > mexico, you better make sure its for more than
> the
> > measily reserves that exist off of virginias
> > coast. Oh and by the way, we could generate the
> > exact same amount of energy without putting
> > fisheries at risk over the course of 50 years
> via
> > wind farms which Republicans in this state have
> > been fighting against for a decade.
> >
> > So shut the fuck up and move if you dont like
> it
> > here ass wipe
>
> No you couldnt do it with windfarms. Windfarms
> barely work in the midwest where they are best
> suited and take up a ton of land for little power.
> You cannot run the country on wind or solar
> period, only idiots think you can.
>
> Not to mention its much more expensive


False economics, not surprising from a little brain like you. At a certain point all non-combustibles (ie sustainable energies) have a return on investment versus traditional fuels moron. The question becomes how long vs capital cost investment. The only time this doesn't occur is in the very rare case where the maintenance life cycle on renewable energy outweighs the cost saving versus the combustible.

Anyways, your a fuck twat republican moron so I don't give a fuck what you think. Keep being proud of how great of an economy germany is, and yet not admitting that their success comes from diversifying their energy into renewables and recycled energy sources as well as the fact that they have universal health care and a massive government safety net for their residents.

La la la

You could always compare that to the true conservative free capital commodity driver economies of Uzbekistan and Zaire though. Those are great examples of where this country would go with your policies of drill baby drill in place.

Well..... Wrote:
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> 100 sq mile solar array would meet countries
> electricity needs
> From my understanding


Not even close. Mathematically you couldnt put in enough to supply all the power we need 24 hours a day, without doing something insane like turning the midwest into a pannel and rationing use elsewhere.

What happens at night? How about when its cloudy? What if it storms for a while?

la la la Wrote:
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> False economics, not surprising from a little
> brain like you. At a certain point all
> non-combustibles (ie sustainable energies) have a
> return on investment versus traditional fuels
> moron. The question becomes how long vs capital
> cost investment. The only time this doesn't occur
> is in the very rare case where the maintenance
> life cycle on renewable energy outweighs the cost
> saving versus the combustible.
>
>
> Anyways, your a fuck twat republican moron so I
> don't give a fuck what you think. Keep being proud
> of how great of an economy germany is, and yet not
> admitting that their success comes from
> diversifying their energy into renewables and
> recycled energy sources as well as the fact that
> they have universal health care and a massive
> government safety net for their residents.
>
> La la la
>
> You could always compare that to the true
> conservative free capital commodity driver
> economies of Uzbekistan and Zaire though. Those
> are great examples of where this country would go
> with your policies of drill baby drill in place.


You sound really smart as soon as "fuck twat" jumped out it just screamed intellectual powerhouse.

Go play outside little boy, I assume youre 14 because if your a grown man calling people "fuck twat" well my god.

Not surprising that you worked in all the typical bullshit talking points and left out how Germany doesnt have illegal immigration because they kick them out unlike us, everyone has a job there because they dont demonize business so the get the tax money unlike us, and their safety net is a safety net not a career choice unlike ours. You progressives cant get anything right your arguments always work against you. Theyre also a fraction of our size and I dont care what they do unless theyre trying to exterminate Jews again, they arent the US and there is no comparison for the US world wide.

If its so great though I would suggest you get on the first flight and go live in Europe I think youll be much happier there until you realize how they hate foreigners and destroy youre bubble, but go ruin their country youve been trying here long enough.