Any dealership that does NOT have Rosenthal in the name. They will always try to screw with you. Some are blind to this and think they got a good deal. Ha! Rosenthal smiles when he think of all the chumps,dupes, easy mark, fools, marks, patsy, saps, and suckers in this area.
Your higher education is no match for his conniving army of slipery car salesman.

Rosenthal Automotive Group Metro DC and Northern Virginas Worst choice for all your automotive Sales, Service, parts and Leasing.

Grammar check : your double negative implies that you like Rosenthal.
Where to NOT buy your car is any dealer that does NOT have Rosenthal in the name?

Anyway, don't call out Rosenhell without giving up the details.
What exactly did they do to ya?
Details...

my one experience with them - sucked. high "pressure" tactics, wasted my time, but they wouldn't negotiation, at least to my liking. i left without buying.

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> my one experience with them - sucked. high
> "pressure" tactics, wasted my time, but they
> wouldn't negotiation, at least to my liking. i
> left without buying.


How do you liking your negotiation?

OP, You must be young. I agree with roughbook. Your writing is confusing. You do realize that you DON'T have to buy the car there, right?!!??!

Curious, what did you end up driving off the lot and high school is NOT higher education.

Here's a easy way to get a good deal on a new car. Go to a website like truecar.com that will show you the "average selling price" and the "target selling price" of the make and model that you are looking for. Contact dealers over the web and find a dealer that will match the target price. Get the deal in writing before you visit the dealership and don't pay a penny more that the price that you agreed to. Also, (this is very important) don't add any bullshit items like paint protection and extended warranties.

TrueCar stinks. Their target prices are terrible deals. TrueCar used to be good, and offered a real "buy it now" type of price, showed you dealer cost and everything. Then they got sued by dealers.

Now the neutered TrueCar is basically worthless unless you are really lazy.

Rule #1 - Keep away from Dash Motors in Manassas. Huge RIP OFF!

If Truecar sucks now, what is the next best alternative?

Drew

What happened to that guy The Dog who advertised the used car place in Manassas? I miss his Saturday morning commercials.

Auto connection of manassas. Google them

Nope Wrote:
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> TrueCar stinks. Their target prices are terrible
> deals. TrueCar used to be good, and offered a
> real "buy it now" type of price, showed you dealer
> cost and everything. Then they got sued by
> dealers.
>
> Now the neutered TrueCar is basically worthless
> unless you are really lazy.


Truecar is still a good site. If you don't like their target price, subtract $3k from the average, you jackass.

From that filthy sand nigger Nico from Nico Buys Cars.

My god --- everyone knows that rosenthief is just that.

And crystal koons is a 'ho!

We be sellin' Wrote:
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> beavis Wrote:
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> > my one experience with them - sucked. high
> > "pressure" tactics, wasted my time, but they
> > wouldn't negotiation, at least to my liking. i
> > left without buying.
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>
> How do you liking your negotiation?

well for one thing, i like them when the asshole tells me what he'll sell the car for without trying to make me first stand around in the showroom for 1/2 an hour, waiting for his dumb-ass manager. Last time i checked I was not their employee.. ass-wipes....

Rosenthal has sucked for decades. High pressure sales and shady tactics have been their calling cards for years.

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

Anywhere where your job is your credit- don't!!!

Keep away from Dash! Rip off!

I sit here smiling at this bullshit. First of all, as posters have said, you don't have to buy the car. Actually the best way of handling dealers is, to literally hit the door offended. They will often lower the price right there, based upon your acting performance.

Second of all, don't all dealers, strike you as a "place where honesty and high ideals", are part of the ebb and flow of business? Its not a charity, church, or professional organization. Rather its people trying to make a buck, and if they are able to one over you on price, that's your bad, as there are plenty of dealers to choose from.



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Fuck buying cars. Boosting them right out off the parking lot is where it's at.

Jerrys likes to take advantage of people too. if they see prey they will take advantage of you.

We Bye Any Car.com! They'll do a breakdance for you. Magicians skilled in the art of misdirection?

Price Country Style Wrote:
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> We Bye Any Car.com! They'll do a breakdance for
> you. Magicians skilled in the art of misdirection?


If they dance for you, can you make sure its not a black guy, so a guy named Scott won't freak out. Thank you for that if possible.

The dealers are there to make a profit. Their customers are there to buy a car for as low a price as possible. I wonder if I'm stating the obvious, but customers are setting expectations without these facts in mind.

Dealers (hopefully) sell cars every day. Customers buy cars much less frequently. They're both people and people can be greedy assholes. The dealer advantage here pretty much guarantees that every dealer has complaints. If any dealerships don't have complaints, they're probably losing money and will probably go out of business. I bet an honest breaking even for a dealership will still generate many complaints.

About the best customer tactic is to have the dealers compete against each other instead of a single dealer competing against a customer. It helps if customers can arm themselves with pricing information, but ultimately the dealer's motivation to make a sale over a competing dealer is the most effective at lowering prices.

If fixed pricing were feasible, it would have been done already. Some tried it and they still get complaints. Any time fixed pricing gets a foothold, it only serves to make the normal dealers undercut the fixed pricing for long enough to put fixed-price dealers out of business.

My own advice that I follow is to only buy used vehicles, have choices, and be flexible with some of your requirements. I have bought four used vehicles in the last 15 years. Two were from private parties and two were from a dealer. All had factory warranties. The dealer experiences were the only ones that had any bullshit.

The local economy is about to dive with sequestration or whatever they do instead of sequestration. I'm in the market for a used vehicle right now. I'm waiting for two things - to see how I fare in the sequestration and to buy in a buyer's market when people are downsizing.