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BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: South Run says SLOW DOWN ()
Date: October 30, 2013 08:04AM

Warning to any parents who may let their child ride in this woman’s red Honda minivan. Saint Bernadette school parents beware!!!! This van has been witnessed speeding through the SOUTH RUN neighborhood and running stop signs on a daily basis. If you are the victim of an “accident” resulting from the dangerous driving habits of this woman, contact this site and I can provide video evidence of her reckless behavior.


Traffic/Criminal Case Details
Case/Defendant Information
Case Number : GT13200167-00 File Date : 09/06/2013 Locality : COUNTY OF FAIRFAX
Name : Nethery, LISA A Status : Released On Summons Defense Attorney :
Address : FAIRFAX, ST 220392963 AKA1 : AKA2 :
Sex : Female Race : DOB : 06/08/****



Charge Information
Charge : 40/25 SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONE
Code Section : G.46.2-873 Case Type : Infraction Class :
Offense Date : 09/05/2013 Arrest Date : Complainant : FEIGLESON, P H
Amended Charge : Amended Code : Amended Case Type :



Hearing Information
Date Time Result Hearing Type Courtroom Plea Continuance Code
10/08/2013 09:30 AM Finalized Adjudicatory 1A Guilty



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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Goody Hayes ()
Date: October 30, 2013 08:25AM

Kill the pig
Cut her throat
Spill her blood!

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Ummmm ()
Date: October 30, 2013 08:31AM

Are you videotaping the stop sign at Rolling View and South Park Circle? You're deranged.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Here's an Option ()
Date: October 30, 2013 08:47AM

Do what I did. Contact Fairfax County Child Protective Services and explain the situation. This is far from their more serious cases, but you will be given a case number and they will send a letter to this lady. If she receives another serious moving violation (and you find out and report it) FCCPS will be required to investigate whether or not children where in the vehicle at the time. If so she will be required to attend a Virginia State Driver Improvement Program. If she cops an attitude at FCCPS they will not take any of her crap. If she is an habitual offender who has just been lucky by not getting caught a wake up letter from the county may be just what she needs. The children who ride in this lady’s minivan are hostages.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: October 30, 2013 08:53AM

You have video? lets see it

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Ummmmmmmmmmmmm ()
Date: October 30, 2013 08:58AM

Here's an Option Wrote:
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> Do what I did. Contact Fairfax County Child
> Protective Services and explain the situation.
> This is far from their more serious cases, but you
> will be given a case number and they will send a
> letter to this lady. If she receives another
> serious moving violation (and you find out and
> report it) FCCPS will be required to investigate
> whether or not children where in the vehicle at
> the time. If so she will be required to attend a
> Virginia State Driver Improvement Program. If
> she cops an attitude at FCCPS they will not take
> any of her crap. If she is an habitual offender
> who has just been lucky by not getting caught a
> wake up letter from the county may be just what
> she needs. The children who ride in this lady’s
> minivan are hostages.

Other than the OP's personal opinion that this woman was speeding (does the OP have a radar gun?) and supposed video evidence of her running stop signs (what do you want to bet that the license plate of the car is not legible in those videos?), the only evidence of bad driving listed is one - ONE - speeding ticket.

Calling Child Protective Services with no more than that is a massive overreaction, and a waste of CPS's time.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: SPC 1985 ()
Date: October 30, 2013 09:08AM

Ummmm Wrote:
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> Are you videotaping the stop sign at Rolling View
> and South Park Circle? You're deranged.


Why would you guess that intersection? Does it have a post with an red octanional piece of metal with four white letters on it? What do you drive so I can check my video? Do you slow and go left twards the pool or blow thru on the right twards Laketree? Are you a South Runner too high and mighty to come to a stop for a stupid sign? Are you a resident snob or a cut through?

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Ummmmmmmmmmm ()
Date: October 30, 2013 09:12AM

SPC 1985 Wrote:
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> Ummmm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are you videotaping the stop sign at Rolling
> View
> > and South Park Circle? You're deranged.
>
>
> Why would you guess that intersection? Does it
> have a post with an red octanional piece of metal
> with four white letters on it? What do you drive
> so I can check my video? Do you slow and go left
> twards the pool or blow thru on the right twards
> Laketree? Are you a South Runner too high and
> mighty to come to a stop for a stupid sign? Are
> you a resident snob or a cut through?


I guess that intersection because it is the only intersection in South Run I with a stop sign that you can "blow through" (i.e., go straight through without turning).

I stop at that stop sign every time. And as for "high and mighty," I'm not the one videotaping my neighbors' minor traffic infractions.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: SPC 1985 ()
Date: October 30, 2013 09:18AM

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm Wrote:
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> Here's an Option Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do what I did. Contact Fairfax County Child
> > Protective Services and explain the situation.
> > This is far from their more serious cases, but
> you
> > will be given a case number and they will send
> a
> > letter to this lady. If she receives another
> > serious moving violation (and you find out and
> > report it) FCCPS will be required to
> investigate
> > whether or not children where in the vehicle at
> > the time. If so she will be required to attend
> a
> > Virginia State Driver Improvement Program. If
> > she cops an attitude at FCCPS they will not
> take
> > any of her crap. If she is an habitual offender
> > who has just been lucky by not getting caught a
> > wake up letter from the county may be just what
> > she needs. The children who ride in this
> lady’s
> > minivan are hostages.
>
> Other than the OP's personal opinion that this
> woman was speeding (does the OP have a radar gun?)
> and supposed video evidence of her running stop
> signs (what do you want to bet that the license
> plate of the car is not legible in those videos?),
> the only evidence of bad driving listed is one -
> ONE - speeding ticket.
>
> Calling Child Protective Services with no more
> than that is a massive overreaction, and a waste
> of CPS's time.


Yoore a goode reeder- dickwad - two reckless violations- bet their are more, other counties/states - civil court will not need the license plates - go back to your porn sites.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: learn to drive ()
Date: October 30, 2013 09:29AM

Ummmmmmmmmmm Wrote:
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> SPC 1985 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ummmm Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Are you videotaping the stop sign at Rolling
> > View
> > > and South Park Circle? You're deranged.
> >
> >
> > Why would you guess that intersection? Does it
> > have a post with an red octanional piece of
> metal
> > with four white letters on it? What do you
> drive
> > so I can check my video? Do you slow and go
> left
> > twards the pool or blow thru on the right
> twards
> > Laketree? Are you a South Runner too high and
> > mighty to come to a stop for a stupid sign? Are
> > you a resident snob or a cut through?
>
>
> I guess that intersection because it is the only
> intersection in South Run I with a stop sign that
> you can "blow through" (i.e., go straight through
> without turning).
>
> I stop at that stop sign every time. And as for
> "high and mighty," I'm not the one videotaping my
> neighbors' minor traffic infractions.

You must have your head up your asshole or do you run the stop sign at Pond Point and South Park Circle too? Your ignorance is amazing!

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Freedom Of Press ()
Date: October 30, 2013 09:35AM

Typical soccer minivan Mom. They feel they have right to speed and text while driving because they are "late for."

I'd setup roadblocks and cite all of these minivan moms. I'm sure a checkpoint would nab multiple soccer mom violations.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: UMMMMMMMMMMM ()
Date: October 30, 2013 09:35AM

> Yoore a goode reeder- dickwad - two reckless
> violations- bet their are more, other
> counties/states - civil court will not need the
> license plates - go back to your porn sites.

I should have been more specific. You listed one PERTINENT violation - speeding 40/25 in a school zone. That's not de facto reckless, and the record you posted shows that she was not charged with reckless (or else it would say "RECKLESS" or "RD"). Therefore, that's not reckless.

You then have the 60-64 in a 40, which CAN be charged as reckless. Too bad that (1) they didn't charge her with reckless - because, again, it doesn't say "RECKLESS" (who's the "goode reeder" again?); and (2) according to court records (courts.state.va.us), that's from 2004, which means it's not even on her DMV record anymore and, thus, as immaterial as that speeding ticket you got when you were 19.

So, no, you don't have evidence of two reckless violations. You have zero, and only evidence of one current speeding ticket, because the 2004 violation would have come off her record in five years. You can assume "their" are more (you mean "there," literacy champ), but assumption is not good enough for the court.

Civil court will need you to prove she was the driver. If you can't even prove it's her car, you can't prove she's the driver. "Red minivan in South Run," I suspect, is not going to cut it, even under the more permissive evidentiary standard of civil litigation. So, yeah, you either need the video to be clear enough to show the license plate or to show the driver (and if doesn't do the former, you're not going to have the latter).

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Ummmmmmmm ()
Date: October 30, 2013 09:42AM

> You must have your head up your asshole or do you
> run the stop sign at Pond Point and South Park
> Circle too? Your ignorance is amazing!

Yeah, I'm the problem, when you're the paranoiac videotaping your neighbors.

I stop at all stop signs. I did forget that there was one at Pond Point - because I rarely, if ever, go that way - but I still think you're at Rolling View and Laketree, because (1) that's where more people run the sign; (2) that's where more people enter and exit the neighborhood; and (3) there are more houses at that intersection (because of the soccer field and the pool at PP/SPC), and so there's a higher probability of one of them containing a Rear-Window-style nut videotaping everyone who drives by.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Fairfax PI ()
Date: October 30, 2013 10:31AM

UMMMMMMMMMMM Wrote:
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> > Yoore a goode reeder- dickwad - two reckless
> > violations- bet their are more, other
> > counties/states - civil court will not need the
> > license plates - go back to your porn sites.
>
> I should have been more specific. You listed one
> PERTINENT violation - speeding 40/25 in a school
> zone. That's not de facto reckless, and the
> record you posted shows that she was not charged
> with reckless (or else it would say "RECKLESS" or
> "RD"). Therefore, that's not reckless.
>
> You then have the 60-64 in a 40, which CAN be
> charged as reckless. Too bad that (1) they didn't
> charge her with reckless - because, again, it
> doesn't say "RECKLESS" (who's the "goode reeder"
> again?); and (2) according to court records
> (courts.state.va.us), that's from 2004, which
> means it's not even on her DMV record anymore and,
> thus, as immaterial as that speeding ticket you
> got when you were 19.
>
> So, no, you don't have evidence of two reckless
> violations. You have zero, and only evidence of
> one current speeding ticket, because the 2004
> violation would have come off her record in five
> years. You can assume "their" are more (you mean
> "there," literacy champ), but assumption is not
> good enough for the court.
>
> Civil court will need you to prove she was the
> driver. If you can't even prove it's her car, you
> can't prove she's the driver. "Red minivan in
> South Run," I suspect, is not going to cut it,
> even under the more permissive evidentiary
> standard of civil litigation. So, yeah, you
> either need the video to be clear enough to show
> the license plate or to show the driver (and if
> doesn't do the former, you're not going to have
> the latter).


Civil court jury will not need a license plate. They will look at the tape as presented. It would be helpful to use the time/date stamp on the recorder. It will be up to the jury to determine the validity of the video evidence. If the defendant takes the stand it will be up to them weather to lie or not about who was driving the vehicle. I’m sure the van is covered in stupid stickers to identify it as the defendants. I video the front page of the current Washington Post to help prove my time/date stamp if I think the tape will be used as evidence in court (like this situation)

Taping is the only way to prove a pattern gross negligence like this. Otherwise it is hearsay. I have used video tape in a dog biting case that would have never been adjudicated without it. Videoing an intersection or speeding by your house is completely justified and the only one can prove it.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Drive 25 and Stop please ()
Date: October 30, 2013 10:46AM

Ummmmmmmm Wrote:
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> > You must have your head up your asshole or do
> you
> > run the stop sign at Pond Point and South Park
> > Circle too? Your ignorance is amazing!
>
> Yeah, I'm the problem, when you're the paranoiac
> videotaping your neighbors.
>
> I stop at all stop signs. I did forget that there
> was one at Pond Point - because I rarely, if ever,
> go that way - but I still think you're at Rolling
> View and Laketree, because (1) that's where more
> people run the sign; (2) that's where more people
> enter and exit the neighborhood; and (3) there are
> more houses at that intersection (because of the
> soccer field and the pool at PP/SPC), and so
> there's a higher probability of one of them
> containing a Rear-Window-style nut videotaping
> everyone who drives by.




There is no intersection of Laketree Dr and Rolling View Dr. You don't even know the street intersections of your own neighborhood? Quit defending some asshole who speeds thru the neighborhood. The OP probably has kids who ride bikes and most of the streets in South Run don't have sidewalks and drivers should never exceed 25 out of respect of their neighbors.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Ummmmmmm ()
Date: October 30, 2013 10:49AM

> Civil court jury will not need a license plate.
> They will look at the tape as presented. It would
> be helpful to use the time/date stamp on the
> recorder. It will be up to the jury to determine
> the validity of the video evidence.

If you're asking the jury to simply accept that a red minivan with stickers on it is the defendant's, given the number of minivans and stickers in Fairfax County, the defense attorney will tear your evidence to shreds. You need definitive evidence tying the defendant to the vehicle, or you will lose.

> Taping is the only way to prove a pattern gross
> negligence like this. Otherwise it is hearsay.

No, hearsay is an attempt to introduce an out-of-court statement in order to prove the truth of the matter asserted.

In this case, your testimony could be determined, by the jury, to be reliable or unreliable, just the same as the tape. Actually, your testimony would probably be harder to attack than the tape. It's not hearsay, because you'd be recounting something you personally witnessed and you'd be present in court.

I also fail to see under what theory you'd sue, given that there are no cognizable damages to you (so you wouldn't have standing), so you're really just taping out of vindictiveness and paranoia.


As for my mistype (Rolling View and Laketree), obviously, I meant Rolling View and SPC, just like I typed earlier. Way to not offer anything substantive.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: videoz ()
Date: October 30, 2013 11:20AM

Post the video or you're full of shit.

"I can provide video evidence of her reckless behavior."

Do it. Create a youtube account and upload it. Upload it to one of the dozens of other video sharing sites. Hell go make a GIF of it and share that. No one cares about anything you have to say until you show us a video.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Der ()
Date: October 30, 2013 01:13PM

Why are you specifically addressing St Bernadette parents? It's not even in Southrun.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: FULL VIEW ()
Date: October 30, 2013 02:29PM

I KNOW THIS LADY, SHE DRIVES LIKE A NUT. Her car is plastered with stickers including Obama and St. Bernadette School. Go figure a pro abortion catholic??? Maybe she is off her meds??? She will kill someone soon; recently she cut me off on the merge at Lee Chapel Rd knowing very well the lane ends she will try to cut in at the last minute.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: F View ()
Date: October 30, 2013 02:31PM

I KNOW THIS LADY, SHE DRIVES LIKE A NUT. Her car is plastered with stickers including Obama and St. Bernadette School. Go figure a pro abortion catholic??? Maybe she is off her meds??? She will kill someone soon; recently she cut me off on the merge at Lee Chapel Rd knowing very well the lane ends she will try to cut in at the last minute.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Bump1 ()
Date: October 31, 2013 08:58AM

+1

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Spoonie ()
Date: October 31, 2013 12:30PM

Someone follow her home and take photos. I want to see this lady.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: roy lettre ()
Date: October 31, 2013 01:36PM

Careful what you wish for. The best thing to do would be to teach your kids to stay out of the street. If you can prove that you've never done anything dangerous behind the wheel than you're not a hypocrite at least.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: K4Vhc ()
Date: October 31, 2013 02:15PM

2concerned is that you?

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: Mikeymike ()
Date: October 31, 2013 10:32PM

roy lettre Wrote:
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> Careful what you wish for. The best thing to do
> would be to teach your kids to stay out of the
> street. If you can prove that you've never done
> anything dangerous behind the wheel than you're
> not a hypocrite at least.


Kids get in the street. That's what they do. The ball rolls into the street; their friend chases them into the street; another kid yells at them from across the street, etc. I live on a pipestem and dumb fucks do 40 down it all the time. They are not more than 1000 yds from their houses. If you live in the fucking burbs, slow the fuck down and watch for kids. If you kill one of them, your life will be ruined. You will go to jail, you will lose everything you own in a civil suit, and you might get your ass kicked for good measure. If this all pisses you off, go live where kids ain't. Or just get your fucking speeding done on the parkway.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: F. Larson ()
Date: November 01, 2013 09:54AM

Mikeymike Wrote:
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> roy lettre Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Careful what you wish for. The best thing to
> do
> > would be to teach your kids to stay out of the
> > street. If you can prove that you've never
> done
> > anything dangerous behind the wheel than you're
> > not a hypocrite at least.
>
>
> Kids get in the street. That's what they do. The
> ball rolls into the street; their friend chases
> them into the street; another kid yells at them
> from across the street, etc. I live on a pipestem
> and dumb fucks do 40 down it all the time. They
> are not more than 1000 yds from their houses. If
> you live in the fucking burbs, slow the fuck down
> and watch for kids. If you kill one of them, your
> life will be ruined. You will go to jail, you
> will lose everything you own in a civil suit, and
> you might get your ass kicked for good measure.
> If this all pisses you off, go live where kids
> ain't. Or just get your fucking speeding done on
> the parkway.


Mikeymike,
You are exactly right! Anyone who speeds on residential streets is a complete asshole. If you can't slow down to 25mph and stop at the stop signs you are just telling your neighbors, fuck off I could care less about your safety and quality of life. They are terrorist in their own way. There are a handful of these types in every neighborhood. What I have noticed is that most of the time these speeders are either fairly stupid people or in this case a woman who has physiological issues. This lady is living in her own bubble. Her husband is probably an overbearing ass who treats her like a dog. South Run has a lot of these types. Snobs who think just because they can afford a new Audi or BMW they have the right to drive these indulgent machines as fast as they want.

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Re: BAD Situation in SOUTH RUN
Posted by: sick ()
Date: November 03, 2013 07:50PM

thanks for the heads up I live in the area of south run will be on the lookout for this van. Can you post a pic or unique identifiers for the red minivan?

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