If you all had been in court you would have heard that the Lannes girl was way more involved... she was shooting the kids up... The kids had no time to try and get help... why are the cops not in trouble for doing a two year investagation... and all the while kids were dying... no one sees any of this... Not only did kids die but all have also lost their future... Cant do anything now but wait and think about what is the next step....

The Lannes made sure everyone paid dearly for their innocent little girl who did introduce the drug to fellow friends. Remember, her mother and the prosecution said she is a savior and saved 16 lives. More like ruined 16 lives with her own actions. Very tired of it all.

This gal Tori knows alot about this too:
http://victorialovething.blogspot.com/

Yes, and she's a very good writer.


                                   


                                         "Try it once."

I was sixteen, and taking trips to the city to get dope had become a regular
thing for me. Every time I went, I was riding with older guys that had been
using for much longer then I had. It never occurred to me that what I was doing
was dangerous and risky and could also get me in trouble.

My affair with heroin had started when I was fifteen. The guys that I hung
around were using it; most used it occasionally, but some habitually. I had
been offered it before, but I was always too scared to to try it. Of course, at
fifteen years old, peer pressure was something that I always gave in to. The
third time I was offered heroin, I snorted a small amount, not enough to feel
it. After my sixteenth birthday, I snorted a larger amount and fell in love
with the feeling it gave me. Eventually, doing it every once-in-a-while, lead
to doing it once a week, which lead to every other day.

Fast forward a few months later, and there I was, in the passenger seat of
Brad's car while we listened to rock music on our way to the city. Justin was
sitting in the backseat, leaning his head on the window with his eyes closed.

"How long have you been doing dope?" I curiously asked Brad as I lowered the
volume of the music.

"Since I was about nineteen," he replied. "So, about five years."

"What's the longest you've gone without doing it?" I looked to him.

"I've gone almost a year without doing it before. I've quit cold-turkey quite a
few times," he told me.

I nodded, watching him as he drove. His knuckles were white as he clenched the
steering wheel tightly, and I guessed it was because he was starting to become
dopesick. He was wearing a black wife-beater that showed off his muscles and
his tattoos. He appeared to be too good-looking to be a heroin addict: his skin
was perfectly tanned, his hair was a shade of dirty blond, and he had those
enviable baby-blue eyes. He resembled an Abercrombie & Fitch model.

My heartbeat quickened as we pulled into the parking lot of the dingy apartment
complex. Brad found a place to park and turned the car off. He took the money
from me and Justin before hopping out of the driver's seat and slamming the
door behind him. Looking in the rear-view mirror, I could see him walk past the
rows of cars and then enter the building.

A very slow ten minutes had passed, and Brad had returned to the car and was
backing out of the parking space. When we got back onto the road, Brad passed
me the dope that I had bought, and handed me Justin's bags to give to him.

On the way back home, I discreetly took bumps from my bag of dope. The taste of
the dope as it dripped down the back of my throat was bitter, but it was a
taste that I had grown a certain liking to. Tasting that bitter flavor meant
the effects of the dope were about to kick in.

I snorted enough to get the warm-feeling in my chest and stomach, but not
enough to nod out. The reason was to avoid returning to my house fucked up and
then having my parents become angry, which almost always lead to a nasty and
relentless fight that involved my whole family.

Our first stop was Justin's house, and Brad pulled up to the curb in front of
the single-family home. Justin grabbed his jacket from the backseat of the car
and then jumped out, saying goodbye to Brad as he shut the car door behind him.
Brad began driving again as Justin walked up the concrete steps to the front
door of his house.

"I've been waiting for us to be alone," Brad said as he drove back toward the
main road.

"Oh, really?" I blushed.

We started talking about other things while he was driving - we talked about
our personal lives, but we talked mostly about heroin.

"Have you ever tried banging it?" Brad asked me.

"No, but I want to," I replied boldly. The pleasurable feeling that the dope
filled me with was beginning to fade away, leaving me feeling drowsy and sedated.

"Well, I have clean needles in here," Brad said, tapping the console between
us. "So, you can try it right now if you want to."

"Uh, I don't know," I answered timidly. I wasn't expecting him to put me on the
spot. The truth was that I had a few passing thoughts about shooting up heroin,
but I had no desire to.

Brad made a left turn and drove into a shopping center parking lot. He parked
the car in the very back, beside a fast food restaurant and away from the rest
of the cars. It was dark outside, but the car was parked underneath a street
lamp that shone brightly enough to see in the car without needing to turn the
interior lights on.

"So, do you want to do it?" Brad said, looking at me with his blue eyes.

"I'm not sure," I answered.

"You never have to do it again if you don't want to, Tori," he said.
"Try it once."

"Let me see you do it first," I replied, trying to buy time.

I watched as Brad reached into the console and got everything that he needed: a
new needle, a spoon, a lighter, cotton, and some water. He set the spoon on the
console and opened up one of the small baggies of dope that he had, pouring it
onto the spoon. He squirted water from the syringe into the spoon, and then
held the lighter's flame underneath of the spoon.

It was the first time I had seen anyone shoot up heroin before. I was used to
watching the people around me snort it instead. I knew of people that preferred
to shoot it, but they never did it around anyone.

While Brad concentrated on finding a vein and shooting the heroin into his arm,
I tried not to get too nervous. I was begging myself to say the words "I'm not
going to shoot it," but they wouldn't leave my throat. Instead, I was getting
anxious because I knew that I was going to give in. And just the though of
shooting dope scared me.

"Okay, ready?" Brad asked me as he took out a new needle from the bag in his
console.

"I'm worried," I said quietly. He laid the spoon down and continued getting my
shot ready.

"I wouldn't let anything bad happen to you," he told me. "Trust me."

And with that, he took my wrist and stretched my arm toward him. I straightened
my elbow as he pointed the tip of the needle upwards and flicked the barrel of
the syringe, pushing out the air bubbles. As he brought the needle to my arm,
my heart immediately started beating very hard and very fast.

"Wait!" I exclaimed, pulling my arm away.

"What is it?" He looked at me, puzzled.

"I don't know if I want to do this," I said. I was so nervous that my palms
were sweating, and my thoughts were racing.

"You will be fine," Brad promised.

"Okay," I agreed reluctantly.

I extended my arm once again, letting him gently grip my lower arm with his
hand. The needle was in his other hand, and he was scanning my inner elbow for
the best vein to use. I turned away and let out a small gasp as the needle
pierced my skin. Two seconds later, Brad had already pulled the needle back out.

"That wasn't too bad," I commented as I looked down at my arm.

And then, I felt it.

It started in my shoulders and my chest, and then tingles spread to my head and
down to my feet. My whole body got warm and amazingly relaxed.

"How do you like it?" Brad looked at me, smirking.

"Wow." It was all I could say.

I had never felt a greater feeling than that. I realized that it was so much
better then how I felt when I was just snorting it. I also realized that
injecting it wasn't as scary or intimidating as I thought it would be.

What I didn't realize, though, is that at that point, I had just crossed a very
bold and definitive line. And that once I crossed that line, that there was no
going back.

http://victorialovething.blogspot.com/2008/06/try-it-once.html

try it once... I hope that you are clean and are fighting the battle against heroin. This is every mothers nightmare... to know that you cant hold you child you cant stop blaming youself and wishing that you new the signs... or if you just ignored them because you didnt know how to help... You can grasp and hold your parents... and I hope you do that... alot of the kids here cant... hopefully you have learned something on this site... about how many years you can get for using and being in the wrong place at the wrong time... and we here can learn from you... the mothers dont understand the feeling... and why? You could help us with that...thank you for you time... and may God walk with you... away from drugs...

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> try it once...


She is not actually here, that was lifted from her blog. Go read it and leave a comment if you want - the link is there.

It is all fun until it isn't.

I was led here from a link in the comment section of my blog. I thought that I would post a comment and say my piece.

First off, I live in Fairfax County. Clifton, actually. I've seen first-hand how heroin has taken over the lives of the young adults here- not just in Fairfax County, but in Northern Virginia. It happened very fast.

While I did not know all of the kids that were busted, I did know Antonio L. Harper, as he had been my drug dealer as well. I was not at all surprised to see that he was sentenced to 26 years. The sad part is that no matter how much time he does, there are still SO many lives that have been forever damaged. No matter where you point the finger or who you want to blame, the end results will remain the same.

Drug addiction can happen to anyone. But you have to be a manipulative and cold person to start with to go and sell drugs to young adults and underage kids. This goes for not only the drug dealers that stand on the block in DC, but also the young adults that live in the suburbs and take advantage of others with money. The reason these kids sold drugs to their peers is simple: They could keep their own addiction going if they could get others hooked. They knew exactly what they were doing.

However, the messed up part about all of this, is that even with the media coverage and the arrests and the overdose deaths and the jail... Addiction still keeps on keepin' on. There are still so many youths here that continue to do heroin as if nothing has happened.

There has to be an answer, right? I wish it was that simple.

Tori

Tori, I hope you don't mind my posting that material from your blog. It's a little off-topic, but I thought it added a valuable perspective to the discussion in this thread.


>But you have to be a manipulative and cold person to start with to go and sell drugs to young adults and underage kids.<

Along these lines, I must say I was not at all impressed with the actions of your friend Brad, who introduced you to the needle. Not cool, to say the least.

You're a very talented writer.

I wish you well.

fuck Bonnie Hobbs. that stuck up bitch has blown this entire story in a warped and fucked up direction.

karmas a bitch, Bonnie, and i'm sure you and the Lannes' will get whats coming to you all.

The Lannes' lost their daughter, screwed up as she was... that isn't enough? Bloodthirsty is no way to go through life.

Well there's a pretty simple answer that other people have already pointed out. If you don't want to ruin your life, don't get involved with heroin to begin with. I actually have more understanding for inner city drug dealers who have no access to jobs or good educations and fall into the world of drug dealing to make an income. Obviously it is wrong and will likely end with them in jail or dead but they probably are more worried about paying bills and feeding their kids. As for these suburban miscreants who choose to get involved with drug dealing and using hard drugs I have no sympathy for them.

I have seen too many former friends go down the same path of drug use and addiction and I can say firsthand that heroin addicts are some of the most selfish, degenerate, dishonest people you will ever meet. While many people who use heroin have other problems to begin with, a lot of these suburban drug addicts I have come across are simply selfish, spoiled, scumbags who have a total lack of accountability for their own actions and don't give a damn about the detrimental effects their drug use has on themselves and those around them.

Everyone knows what heroin does, if you choose to pick up a needle be ready to deal with the consequences and don't expect any sympathy because frankly a lot of people are sick of junkie scum ruining the lives of everyone who has the misfortune of encountering them.

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> Well there's a pretty simple answer that other
> people have already pointed out. If you don't want
> to ruin your life, don't get involved with heroin
> to begin with. I actually have more understanding
> for inner city drug dealers who have no access to
> jobs or good educations and fall into the world of
> drug dealing to make an income.


Ah yes, addiction is okay if it is a less than fortunate inner city person. I call BS. Pell Grants will pay for a degree, and the grant benefit amount exceeds the cost of a community college. Stafford and Perkins loans are also available and are not based on credit or income.

Addiction is an equal opportunity affliction. It affects all socio-economical levels.


Common Sense continued spewing forth:
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> I have seen too many former friends go down the
> same path of drug use and addiction and I can say
> firsthand that heroin addicts are some of the most
> selfish, degenerate, dishonest people you will
> ever meet. While many people who use heroin have
> other problems to begin with, a lot of these
> suburban drug addicts I have come across are
> simply selfish, spoiled, scumbags who have a total
> lack of accountability for their own actions and
> don't give a damn about the detrimental effects
> their drug use has on themselves and those around
> them.


I call BS again. My experience is that crack and meth addicts are far worse than heroin addicts.

Actually, drunk drivers kill more people than addicts do. Talk about negatively affecting others.


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> Everyone knows what heroin does, if you choose to
> pick up a needle be ready to deal with the
> consequences and don't expect any sympathy because
> frankly a lot of people are sick of junkie scum
> ruining the lives of everyone who has the
> misfortune of encountering them.


The only think you have right in your entire post is choice. If you choose to pick up the needle, or even begin snorting, be prepared for the consequences.

However, those who have the misfortune of encountering addicts can always go to Al Anon for help.

My point at beginning was that kids in the inner city have it rough, I've encountered many people from there and have friends who live in bad areas and it's not easy. Also I didn't say anything about addiction my point was that in an area like say Baltimore where less than 50% of kids graduate high school the problems and trappings start at a young age. Do you really think that because some random groups hand out grants and scholarships is going to change the effect that living in a harsh, violent, crime filled environment has on a young kid. You're lucky if you're 18 years old and have graduated high school without falling in with the gangs and drug dealers, there's not many positive role models in these areas.

Now on to these suburban fiends, I don't care whether it's crack, dope, speed, or whatever. These kids all think they can do whatever they want without facing the consequences and keep thinking it until they end up dead. And you're right about drunk driving thats a big problem too and it comes from the same mindset, but yeah let's keep defending the drug addicts.

You're still not getting it.

Drugs and addiction is equal opportunity, and is not relegated to the inner cities due to lack of opportunity or positive role models...

All it takes is a choice to try it, and feel the effects. The rush of speed, the euphoria of coke, the sense of warmness from heroin (actually, I puked the first time).

That is it, the first experience. And the opportunity to experiment and become addicted is just as present in the suburbs as it is in the city.

Kids in the suburbs often have money, cars and other opportunities that inner city kids have to work much harder for. That does not preclude them from the same desire to escape society for a bit, the peer pressure to try a little pot and perhaps a little more, and hey, I'll only try this once...but the feeling, it is quite a sensation! What is just one more snort? A needle, perhaps just once.

Trust me on this, unless you have been there, you really have no idea.

"And as I watched my friends go down, one by one, I knew I was at the bottom, but a person really can't stop. Maybe tomorrow, but one more time won't hurt..."

It is all fun until it isn't.

Common Sense,

You make no sense, you post is total BS!!!!

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Schnipple finally got internet access from Lewisburg!

My post make's perfect sense you're just an idiot.

I'm not defending drug dealers, my point is drug dealer or user you fuck around with matches you're going to get burned. I feel sorry for that girl's family and her senseless death but people really need to take this tragedy and realize its only one more example of why you should NEVER touch shit like heroin to begin with.

(Common Sense) people dont wake up in the morning and say let me go get addicted to heroin today. It doesnt matter where you live drugs are everywhere and I am not sure where you are in all of this but when kids or people are trying a drug they are not using common sense it is usually because of pier pressure or just fitting in... or your buddy says man this stuff is good... and then you do it and heroin is highly addictive so it becomes your life... finding it... and getting it... anyone on drugs is not trust worthy... if they need money and they have an addiction kids/family members make up a lie to get the money... Maybe you have never had an addiction...or a friend... that used...and offered it to you but this is the real world... and these kids are all paying for their mistakes... and choices they have made.

You talk about trying heroin like its pot. MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME ACROSS HEROIN DONT TRY IT BECAUSE ITS FUCKING RETARDED. EVERYONE, knows that heroin is one of the most addictive drugs out there, the old "I wont get addicted line" is played out, most people who try heroin have already been abusing drugs for years or have developed a habit with OxcyContin or some other painkiller/opiate. I've been offered every drug under the sun, so have most of my friends, the ones that were strong minded resisted and the ones who were weak unfortunately had to learn the hard way. In fact, most normal individuals when finding out someone uses heroin would probably realize thats a person they shouldn't be spending time with.

Choose your friends wisely, if your friend becomes a drug addict try hard to help them if they choose to continue their self destruction cut them off. They'll only end up robbing you or getting you involved in some fucked up situation.

wow you know everything you should run for president... since your so wise...hopefully you dont run into a moment you are not so up tight... sounds like you have other issues... you dont know these kids... so why are you on here anyways...since your life is so non addicted and happy about it.

Did anyone else see the news story on Channel 7 tonight about the increase of heroin use in Northern Virginia? Tonight's story was focused on two young teens in Prince William becoming heroin addicts. I hope just because the ring in Centreville has been busted, people don't think this whole heroin thing is behind us.

Parent and their kids better wake-up to what is going on around here!

If you go back and read some of the articles about the Centreville ring, one of it's most persistent dealers (credited by the judge as using sophisticated marketing techniques including free samples to introduce new users to the drug) was dealing from his father's house in Centreville and, after repeated arrests, moved to his mother's house in Manassas (where he continued to sell heroin until arrested for the Lannes death). It's not surprising that teens in Prince William are now surfacing with an addiction to the same drug.

If you read the "Tori" blog that another poster excerpted on this site, she is actually from Clifton and also made trips to get heroin from the same DC dealer that was sentenced under the Lannes case. She claims that "the messed up part about all of this, is that even with the media coverage and the arrests and the overdose deaths and the jail... Addiction still keeps on keepin' on. There are still so many youths here that continue to do heroin as if nothing has happened."

There was a heroin dealer in this ring that went to Robinson, another from Woodson and a third from Fairfax and they were not Westfield students. One of the deaths was a girl from Falls Church.

This wasn't just a Centreville or Westfield problem, but somehow, all of these different cases and locations were connected enough to implicate each other when the police started connecting the dots.

We haven't seen a case yet where some heroin opportunist drove to Centreville and started propositioning HS kids to give heroin a try. Our kids went to the DC and Baltimore dealers. Someone came up with the bright idea that heroin would be neat to try and these kids helped each other seek it out, bring it back, and spread it across our communities to help support their own addictions.

Only 20 people were identified in these cases (and they were all dealers or dead). All of their activity stopped in 2008 with a series of arrests. We don't know how many more users and juveniles were identified during the investigation (but never publicized. Schnippel reportedly claimed that his Centreville/Manassas dealer had at least 30 clients, alone. You'd probably have to exponentially adjust that number to come up with the total number of people that were affected and just may be continuing to perpetuate heroin use with teens today.

Food for thought for all parents of teens in the Northern Virginia area and something to consider when sentencing the future heroin dealers that fill the void created by these convictions.

Hmmmmmm do you know the person you are posting about...Time to stop blaming stuff on the Centreville heroin ring... they are out of commission and some have been for a long time...

Before you bitch at these "bad" people you need to know them. I was friends with many of them on a personal level. No names, ones father was caught with a second family and he was selling for money to get an education. One was an eagle scout. Anothers mom had a major stroke and was emotionally devastated. A third was abused as a child... im sure the list goes on. Bad mouthing these people is wrong, however the things they did were horrible nevertheless.

the posts about addiction need to stop. unless your a doctor or an addict we dont need your crap on addiction. its real, its a disease, and you become helpless to the drug.

ps. common sense- "You talk about trying heroin like its pot. MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME ACROSS HEROIN DONT..." your whole shenagan is bullshit. im glad your not an addict, good for you really, but some people are. you are entitled to your opinions, but show some respect for people who aren't so lucky...

I agree... thank you

AJ,

Thank you for your post!

I think HMMMMMMMMMMM raises several good points here.

What is happening to the allege 30 people JR was selling to? Only 16 were indited that's leave 14 unaccounted for?

What is going on with the other un-indicted co-conspirators, are they still out there using and selling or have they gotten treatment? (let's hope so)

I really think it is time for this board to move off the 16 that have been taken care of and focus on what can be done going forward to help others out there in our community. Channel 7 ran a story on Heroin use in Northern Virginia the other day, this is a growing problem as Baltimore is the east coast heroin capital. At some point in time maybe we'll wake up and start treating addiction as a medical instead of a criminal issue and spend resources on helping people instead of just building and filling up our jails!

ALLEGE is the answer to your question... read up on the person that said that... looks like he knows how to lie and ask others to lie for him so that he can get off charges... Like you said it is time to move on... so this will be the last time I will be on fairfaxunderground... and posting on this... so hopefully all that are on here learn from these kids/young people and understand that all is not how you see or hear it... to all take care...

Does anyone know who the witness was that schnippel was trying to get lie for him that got him the obstruction of justice charge? Everyone thinks it was a guy but i heard it was a chick and he was setup?!?

They still havent gotten the dealer that some of the other kids in cville went to. They call him Sin he's up in MD in the Marlow Heights area....

It was a girl with the initials LD that was a good friend of his. She was kicked out of her house by her mother and was living at other peoples homes in his neighborhood. She failed to show up at the grand jury meeting and was then caught with some pot in her car and they had her set him up with text messages.

Read the text messages in the indictment as they are really silly. You have to read the entire chain and not just one piece of it. "You can lie to them if you want to. LOL" Regardless of how ridiculous the text messages, any contact with anyone can be considered obstruction of justice.

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> Does anyone know who the witness was that
> schnippel was trying to get lie for him that got
> him the obstruction of justice charge? Everyone
> thinks it was a guy but i heard it was a chick and
> he was setup?!?


Try reading the Centreview instead of wiping your ass with it, there was a whole article about it

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> > thinks it was a guy but i heard it was a chick
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> > he was setup?!?
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> Try reading the Centreview instead of wiping your
> ass with it, there was a whole article about it


Related to that cunt, Bonnie?

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Who is bonnie Hobbs?

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You should try reading the Centreview instead of wiping your ass with it.

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She is a sad excuse for a journalist who writes garbage for the free local weekly.

In the article posted earlier in this thread, which was published on July 30, she insinuates that Schnippel was not remorseful. Also included in that article are idiotic statements by ass't DA Barnett. Things such as only down and out or sexually abused kids have a reason to try drugs, and fine and upstanding students such as the 'other' suburban youth have no reason to get angled up in addiction.

Simply put, Hobbs writes moronic articles, with utterly baseless and factually incorrect quotes.

As I have previously stated, addiction is an equla opportunity affliction...

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youre right, your mother told me it was soft

the obstruction of justice charge was given to a man. i know him personally. he was not involved in the ring, but was trying to cover for his friends...

Yea um to the SHUT THE FUCK UP GIRL!!! maybe if you friend went to rehab and SUPPOSEDLY came out the person she use to be then why was she selling herion in the first place. If you go to rehab you are supposed to take drugs COMPLETLEY out of you life.. not go sell them.. dumb ass.. maybe she does need to rot in jail for a couple of years are realize that doing drugs/selling drugs will get you in situations jail/death and those are basically the only to options so maybe this time whether she gets jail or rehab whatever. When she comes out maybe she will be a new person cause she is young and can change her life around.Yes she did not force those people to shoot the drug or even buy the drug. but she was the one dealing the drug so in some way she is responsible for killing those people. and Carmen Somers was one of my friends.... how would you feel it you had the tables turned on you and your little friend was the one that was dead.. you would be saying that those people that gave her the drugs should ROT... So Shut the Hell up beucase u are ignorant

only a month a 21 days late. nice timing?



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any recent news on this story lately? it's unbelievable to me how prevalent heroin is. hopefully the people involved are getting the help they need to overcome their addiction.

There were two people who got the obstruction charge. 703 the chick is Laruen Day. A mentally unstable cunt. You may remember her from years ago as the girl who made up the story that she almost got abducted from a path in Virginia Run because she wanted attention. She made up some bullshit that landed Schnippel in jail.
As far as Bonnie Hobbs she is also a biased bitch. The news is only looking at it from Lannes point of view. In return making everyone, mainly Schnippel, look like it was all their fault even though it is NOT.
Jennifer, Alicia was my friend I knew her very well. Just because the news is on Tv doesnt mean that it is always right. It just wants to play to the viewers to get ratings. Playing the "woh is this family for this tragedy." what about the other family's kids that are suffering.
Hasn't everyone suffered enough? I have read things in the news papers about famous people and not so famous people accidentally killing their friends in drunk driving accidents and what not. The families of the deceased didnt press charges cause the death of the friend IS HARD FUCKING ENOUGH.
The Lannes experienced something no parent should and that is losing their daughter let alone burying her. And I commend them for getting T off the streets. How ever it is sick that they are making other families like the Schnippels suffer like they are by having their son taken away much like their daughter was. Alicia is turning in her grave.

We all miss you Alicia.

jennifer Wrote:
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> Yea um to the SHUT THE FUCK UP GIRL!!! maybe if
> you friend went to rehab and SUPPOSEDLY came out
> the person she use to be then why was she selling
> herion in the first place. If you go to rehab you
> are supposed to take drugs COMPLETLEY out of you
> life.. not go sell them.. dumb ass.. maybe she
> does need to rot in jail for a couple of years are
> realize that doing drugs/selling drugs will get
> you in situations jail/death and those are
> basically the only to options so maybe this time
> whether she gets jail or rehab whatever. When she
> comes out maybe she will be a new person cause she
> is young and can change her life around.Yes she
> did not force those people to shoot the drug or
> even buy the drug. but she was the one dealing the
> drug so in some way she is responsible for killing
> those people. and Carmen Somers was one of my
> friends.... how would you feel it you had the
> tables turned on you and your little friend was
> the one that was dead.. you would be saying that
> those people that gave her the drugs should ROT...
> So Shut the Hell up beucase u are ignorant


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Its not the dealers fault that people overdose, the user is the one with the power to regulate themselves. Even if the dealer were to go away, or refuse to sell, the person would just find another dealer to go to.

And dont even bring up the point about the dealer getting the user hooked on dope, its bullshit. The user has to agree that they want the drug dealers product. I cant speak for everyone but i've never been tied down by a drug dealer and doped up. And if you want to blame the overdoses on the dealer, should car salesmen be responsible for selling a 17 y.o kid a fast car that he wrecks and kills people in? No.

However, I am not saying that the dealers should be unpunished. Stiff fines, Hundreds of hours of community service, and mandatory rehab clinics should be given to every one of the people involved.

Also, nobody, EVER, needs to "rot in jail". When you spend over a month locked up for non-violent crimes, then you can wish jail time on people. Until then shut the fuck up on your "maybe she does need to rot in jail for a couple of years" crap. Jail should be for violent criminals who are unsafe to the community. Drug users and dealers, unless violent, are not unsafe to the community.

Jennifer, bitch slap yourself

I feel sorry for everyone involved!

Legalize every drug there is! fuck all you guys, you can't see that the problem isn't that these people are selling drugs but that your children are buying them. They wouldn't bring the drug if there wasn't a market to exploit. teach you kids not to like drugs and they won't be able to sell. Its a simple supply and demand system people to cut out the supplier u need to cut out the desire. You guys are all ignorant and looking for a scapegoat. fuck yall

Westfield Blues Wrote:
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> Rechecking the Facts Wrote:
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> -----
> > With regard to allegations of "unfair treatment"
> for Schnippel, he was not the
> > only defendant sentenced for "distribution
> resulting in death" and Alicia's death
> > was not the only one prosecuted under this
> charge. They all resulted in a 20 year
> > sentence for the person(s) responsible for a
> distribution directly linked to a death.
>
>
> Thanks for clarifying these facts.
>
> However, you didn't mention the cases of Jessica
> Remington and Angela Aycock.
>
> On July 28, 2009, mustknow Wrote:
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> -----
> > The Feds said to Remmington and Aycock,
> > we will charge you with distribution that
> resulted
> > in death with a sentence of 20 years unless you
> > plead quilty to this other lesser charge.
> Given
> > the choice, take the other charge. This shows
> > that the prosecution has too much power to be
> able
> > to pick and choose.
>
>
> Although many factors can be involved in charging
> and suggested-sentencing
> decisions, if what mustknow wrote is accurate, it
> does at least raise a question
> of prosecutorial abuse of discretion.
>
> In particular, while her efforts at rehabilitation
> are commendable, Aycock's
> behavior appears to have been particularly
> egregious, in that she "introduced
> 'many, many people' to Harper so she could get
> heroin for free or at a reduced price,"
> as reported in the Connection (CentreView,
> Northern Edition, July 23-29, 2009).
>
> If in fact both she and Remington engaged in
> distribution resulting in death, why
> were they not so charged? This apparent leniency
> towards one gender (by a judge
> of the same gender) seems an artifact of an
> earlier era, and ill-placed in 2009.

FUCKKKKK ALLLL YOU GOSSIPPERSSSSSSSS i Just got the fuck out an NONE OF THEM IN WANTS TO CHATTIN ABOUT THEM!

Shut up slim! Before I tie you up with this dental floss.

mini-documentary clip on the centreville heroin ring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOGAjjW2ZjI

Typical one sided journalism that we are so used too. I just love the fact that Greg Lannes claims to know what was said to her. Here take this drug as it will make your troubles go away. Amazing. The Lannes' are so clueless. They forget that their daughter was instrumental in introducing drugs to other kids in school.

Lets see, overdose the first time. Parents do nothing. Overdose the second time. Parents get her an apartment with Nicole Andersen. Alicia, Nicole, and Chavez all did drugs together in the apartment. Nice setup for her. Out of sight, out of mind. Overdose a third time and crash her car. They buy her a jeep. Look in the F-ING mirror Greg and stop blaming everyone else for your daughters choice that she made independently. Enough is enough.

I can't agree more.

agree agree agree. even though this case has died down since it was wrapped up over the summer, i still cannot seem to get over how ignorant mr. & mrs. lannes were, and continue to be. i knew alicia all through high school, so let's set the record straight: she was not a perfect little angel who got taken advantage of by her big bad boyfriend who preyed on her anxiety and told her to "take heroin, it will make you feel better." really, mr. lannes? are we in an after-school special here? alicia was into drugs and alcohol before skylar ever came into the picture. so her eventual heroin use should have come as no suprise, and certainly cannot be pinpointed on skylar. news flash: your kid can "seem" like a perfect angel but still be doing drugs (by their own choice) behind closed doors. i can only imagine how mr. & mrs. schnippel feel when they watch things like this. i miss alicia a lot, but the lannes' need to get a grip on reality.

Now taking bets on how long it will be before this melodrama gets put on Dateline NBC or gets made into a Lifetime movie.

Probably will never make motion picture status, although it does have a very Hollywood-esque "puppy love gone wrong" story (Skylar & Alicia) at the center of it.

Sounds kind of boring. This is not like Alpha Dog.

It's a shame the Lannes didn't get involved and vocal after their daughter's FIRST OD.

What a sad story.

To all of the people who don't live in Centreville or know any of the people in the ring, you should keep your mouth shut because you werent there and obviously don't know what happened. Worry about yourself and you should pray for these people instead of cursing them. "he who has not sinned may cast the first stone."

Friend of the ring Wrote:
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> To all of the people who don't live in Centreville
> or know any of the people in the ring, you should
> keep your mouth shut because you werent there and
> obviously don't know what happened. Worry about
> yourself and you should pray for these people
> instead of cursing them. "he who has not sinned
> may cast the first stone."

Good job bumping a two year old thread. I am/was friends with a few people from the ring and they seem to be doing better now except for a few of em, but I wont mention any names.

When you say doing better , do you mean they have a better connection now, and get higher quality heroin for a cheaper price?

BEH Wrote:
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> When you say doing better , do you mean they have
> a better connection now, and get higher quality
> heroin for a cheaper price?

Funny.

I know this is old news but I just discovered this story the other day. I really do feel bad for everyone involved in this, I don't think these kids are the monsters everyone wants to think they are. Heroin has become quite a popular drug as of late in the young adult crowd and really I don't think these kids today even know what they're getting into when they start doing this stuff. It's like they think addiction is a joke and that they can easily stop if they feel they are getting to deep, but by the time they become addicted they start to realize its not that easy, that they can be in excruciating pain with out it because of their physical dependence, they didn't know what withdrawals felt like before obviously, so there is no way to really RESPECT THE POWER OF ADDICTION and how much it can change your life until you become addicted.

damn ppl on the east coast

I am a recovering addict one thing I learned from my past from being addicted is compassion something I think a lot of the people commenting on here lack for not only these kids but probably for anyone.

let's see if y'all can read this.
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Lets reopen it in 18 years when everyone gets out of Federal prison, good morning guys, whats for breakfast there?

pound me in the ass prison hahaha

If I see Alex Bonneville trespass in my yard again I'll make him wish he ODed too. That kid is a total scumbag.

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JR didn't do 19.

Didn't one of the offenders go to Fairfax High School?

Well, he never did get clean. He died of an overdose.

Well, that last was Matt Megale, who was convicted when he was 18.

White junkies dropping dead like flies.

Was very disappointed to hear of Matt's passing. The Megales are a great family and some of the least deserving of this hardship. RIP Matt.

sad rip

Three more years for the scapegoat, Skylar Schnippel. May of 2026 to be exact.

What the hell do you even do when you get released from being locked up since 2008? I know that his family still lives on Surrey House Way in Centreville's Virginia Run neighborhood. I guess they'll probably just take their grownass 37-year-old son back in and try to find him some basic employment? Taco Bell is calling...

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