I was wondering if I'm allowed to carry a rifle or shotgun in the cabin of a truck in a gun rack in Virginia?

Some things to consider:

I don't have a concealed carry permit.

VA law now allows for the carrying of a handgun by non concealed carry permit holders within the vehicle cabin, as long as the handgun is inside a secured compartment (i.e. glove compartment or center console). This law only specifically mentions handguns and Im sure doesn't apply to rifles and shotguns, but that doesn't mean there arent other statutes for rifles and shotguns.

Is there any law that specifically bans rifles/shotguns within the cabin and reach of the driver?

Open carry of rifles and shotguns is allowed so long as the magazine of a rifle holds less than 20 rounds and and 7 rounds for a shotgun. Would this law allow the gun rack or not?

Would getting a concealed carry permit make the whole issue a moot point?

This is the type of rack I'm considering, just not too sure about the legality. Can anyone help me out, or does anyone else routinely carry a rifle in their vehicle themselves?
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No, you may not carry your dick substitute in your vehicle...

2nd Amend Curious Wrote:
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> Is there any law that specifically bans
> rifles/shotguns within the cabin and reach of the
> driver?

Ask a lawyer not FFU

> Would getting a concealed carry permit make the
> whole issue a moot point?

It is a "permit to carry a concealed handgun", so it does not cover rifles, machetes, hand grenades, missile launchers or whatever else....

Leftist.Gorilla Wrote:
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> No, you may not carry your dick substitute in your
> vehicle...


Why not, could you please cite a source?

Not a lawyer Wrote:
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>
>
> > Would getting a concealed carry permit make the
> > whole issue a moot point?
>
> It is a "permit to carry a concealed handgun", so
> it does not cover rifles, machetes, hand grenades,
> missile launchers or whatever else....


Ah, good point. Thanks.

Leftist.Gorilla Wrote:
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> No, you may not carry your dick substitute in your
> vehicle...

+1,234 definitely in the land of the dickless

You can if the ammunition is separate and there is a locking mechanism on the rack. Would not have one around fairfax, its asking for theft/unnecessary explanation to police and too many restrictions where you can park ie malls ect.

Yes, Where are you parking? Make and color of the vehicle?

Don't know if it is legal or not, but this time of the year in the Shenandoah Valley most of the pickups have racks with rifles in them. It is hunting season.

As long as they are not concealed, you can mount them - it falls within the boundaries of "open carry". If you want a solid answer from people other than the illiterate asswipes on FFU, I would suggest you ask VCDL or consult with a lawyer if you don't believe me.

Page Panther Wrote:
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> Don't know if it is legal or not, but this time of
> the year in the Shenandoah Valley most of the
> pickups have racks with rifles in them. It is
> hunting season.


Deer season doesn't really start up till November

I guess it might be bear or turkey season now

JustanFYI Wrote:
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> As long as they are not concealed, you can mount
> them - it falls within the boundaries of "open
> carry". If you want a solid answer from people
> other than the illiterate asswipes on FFU, I would
> suggest you ask VCDL or consult with a lawyer if
> you don't believe me.


This is what I thought too concerning the open carry, I just want to make sure.

I asked FFu to see if anyone could point me in the direction of a definitive "No" or "Yes" within the law about long guns in cars.

Thanks

It is legal in Va. to have a gun rack with open carry guns in them. We had them 30 years plus back and no laws have been passed to outlaw that. The guns are openly seen in a rack. As far as being loaded. theres a question ..that was there even 30 years ago. Game Wardens may inquire if you are hunting.. In places that there is limited hunting for example FXCO. If the gun is loaded they may try to constru that you have been poaching. There are poachers in FXCO even today in large wooded area's parks ect. If there had been a gun shot heard they may take you gun to see if it had been recently fired. That and the fact that they will be ripped off if thugs see them is a good reason not to have them in a rack unless your say in the G W. National forest in hunting season with all licenses and tags but that said you can be acused of spotlighting game if its night. It goes on and on. Go ahead put in your rack and your unloaded guns..but they will not be there long in todays world. Oh yes all the places you cant have a gun today..too close to a school. A rifle or shotgun in a locked tool box in the bed is a better idea today, but it can still get ripped.

...not can get ripped, WILL get ripped. People will bust a window for pocket change.

Yes it is leagal. In most counties,the guns must
b unloaded.

I'm a hunter but won't have a rack in my car because even if it's just parked in Fairfax. There are assholes who will break into your car and your house if they think there may be guns around. I knew a guy in Arlington whose home was broken into just because he had an NRA sticker on his pickup truck. He didn't even own any guns and the sticker was from the previous owner.

This is a link to Virginia State Police for a start. Not sure if there's stuff in it about rifles though.

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Transporting.shtm



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/14/2013 11:25AM by exffx.

Being a recently retired law enforcement officer, here is your answer. Virginia is an "open carry" state. That means you can carry a firearm as long as it is not concealed. You can carry a firearm concealed if you have a permit.

Therefore, you are able to carry a loaded weapon in public as long as there is not a law telling you that you can not do so. So do your homework. First of all read VA State Code 18.2-308 which explains what is considered concealed. You can search VA State Code on line. There are code sections shortly after 18.2-308 which explains that you cant take a firearm into a church, bar, airport terminal, or a school. You can also looking into the hunting section which says that you can't have a loaded firearm when in hunting areas out of season.

VA State code 15.2-915.2 says that county, city and town jurisdictions can make laws relating to the carrying of loaded firearms illegal. So you will have to research each county to see if they have local laws prohibiting the carrying of loaded weapons outside of the "assault" weapon definitions. Fairfax County never made such a law and you can carry weapons in the open just like your picture. Remember, there has to be a law specifically telling you that you can not do certain things. If there is no law, then you can do it.

In Virginia, you can carry a handgun on your belt (not concealed) or a shotgun slung over your shoulder into any business or down any street and do it legally. As long as it is not a school, bar, airport terminal, church. You can carry it on private property unless the owner or management prohibits you from carrying such a weapon either by signage or verbal explanation. An example is the courthouse where there is signage prohibiting weapons into the facilities.

Now just because you have a right to carry a weapon in the open, does not mean that it is the smart thing to do. Yes, people will call the police on you and the police will respond and confront you. It might not be a pleasant police encounter and remember, the police are just doing their jobs. You wont be criminally charged if you are in the right. But is it really worth the hassle. My suggestion is to get a concealed weapon permit and carry concealed. That way the pubic will not get alarmed and call the police. If they public cant see the weapon, they cant get alarmed.

I love that the cry babies who whine that gun owners have small dicks are the first to crap their pants when they try and bully someone who has a gun.

Bullies hate when you fight back and always piss their pants when they get outgunned.

The constant name calling is a sure sign they're bullies. Bully me and my non-existent equalizing dick will give you a little kiss.

xoxo

Just do it Wrote:
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>
> Now just because you have a right to carry a
> weapon in the open, does not mean that it is the
> smart thing to do. Yes, people will call the
> police on you and the police will respond and
> confront you. It might not be a pleasant police
> encounter and remember, the police are just doing
> their jobs. You wont be criminally charged if you
> are in the right. But is it really worth the
> hassle. My suggestion is to get a concealed
> weapon permit and carry concealed. That way the
> pubic will not get alarmed and call the police.
> If they public cant see the weapon, they cant get
> alarmed.


+1

If you turn up in most Fairfax neighborhoods toting any kind of uncovered fire-arm then you can expect an encounter with the police pretty damn fast

It is far from a social norm to be carrying an uncovered long gun of any form in most of fairfax or to have one on display in your vehicle - because there's no legitimate reason. This is not W.Va, Rio or J'burg

Even though many legitimately and safely CC handguns, OC not a social norm around here and in most parts of the county will flag you immediately and rationally as armed and unusual.

Responsible gun owners keep their tools safe and discrete unless deployed for hunting etc.

If you wave the thing around or clip it up like some kind of trophy then 10:1 you'll get mistaken for some kind of nut job - especially with the recent spate of mass shootings.

This will lead you to a risky encounters and you may very well get shot.

Drive through suburbia with a rifle or shotgun clipped up like some wannabee cop or mercenary, then you will get legitimate calls to law enforcement and you will get hassle.

Social norms are there for a reason

Rule 1 - don't be a dick even if the constitution says you can. See Westboro Baptists...

Box it and lock it out of plain sight - how hard can it be

Why don't you just put a sign on your truck that says:

"Gangs come rob me. I have guns."

rumors rumors

Yes you can. Even if it makes you sad.

You have no idea what you are talking about. I have open carried all over Virginia for 30 years and never had one cop ask me a question about it.

utr Wrote:
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> I'm a hunter but won't have a rack in my car
> because even if it's just parked in Fairfax. There
> are assholes who will break into your car and your
> house if they think there may be guns around. I
> knew a guy in Arlington whose home was broken into
> just because he had an NRA sticker on his pickup
> truck. He didn't even own any guns and the sticker
> was from the previous owner.

Years ago, I knew a military family that had just moved to this county. They had bought their son a used pickup that had a gun rack. As a joke the kid went out and bought a toy, plastic gun and put it in the rack. As he was driving to Robinson one day he was stopped by police and almost locked up. Fortunately they lived close enough to the school the dad was coming by and stopped, and cleared it up.

I went to Chantilly back when it first opened. We had gun racks in our trucks. We had guns in the gun racks. No one gave us jazz. They weren't AR style of course. Just bolt or lever action. So when the poster above writes 'years ago', he's not talking about the 70's or 80's. Probably after Columbine.

utr Wrote:
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> I'm a hunter but won't have a rack in my car
> because even if it's just parked in Fairfax. There
> are assholes who will break into your car and your
> house if they think there may be guns around. I
> knew a guy in Arlington whose home was broken into
> just because he had an NRA sticker on his pickup
> truck. He didn't even own any guns and the sticker
> was from the previous owner.


So true.

Nothing on my truck says I own a firearm.

No NRA stickers or NRA, Don't Tread on Me, or In God We Trust license plates.

I triggered someone with the God plates.

Only CC

Nothing like a good gun thread to trigger the sanctimonious pussyhat wearing freedom hating libtards. They hate guns almost as much as they hate Trump. I think I’m going to go out to the range tomorrow and put a few clips through my Glock in honor of our founding fathers who enshrined our right to keep and bear arms in the bill of rights and all the brave soldiers who died to keep us free.

Antiasshat Wrote:
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> Nothing like a good gun thread to trigger the
> sanctimonious pussyhat wearing freedom hating
> libtards. They hate guns almost as much as they
> hate Trump. I think I’m going to go out to the
> range tomorrow and put a few clips through my
> Glock in honor of our founding fathers who
> enshrined our right to keep and bear arms in the
> bill of rights and all the brave soldiers who died
> to keep us free.


You're the coolest!

Antiasshat Wrote:
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> Nothing like a good gun thread to trigger the
> sanctimonious pussyhat wearing freedom hating
> libtards. They hate guns almost as much as they
> hate Trump. I think I’m going to go out to the
> range tomorrow and put a few clips through my
> Glock in honor of our founding fathers who
> enshrined our right to keep and bear arms in the
> bill of rights and all the brave soldiers who died
> to keep us free.

I'm going to put a few MAGAZINES through my 1911 and a few CLIPS through my M1Garand for the same reason. Unlike a Glock, both were made in in the USA.

Just do it Wrote:
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> Being a recently retired law enforcement officer,
> here is your answer. Virginia is an "open carry"
> state. That means you can carry a firearm as long
> as it is not concealed. You can carry a firearm
> concealed if you have a permit.
>
> Therefore, you are able to carry a loaded weapon
> in public as long as there is not a law telling
> you that you can not do so. So do your homework.
> First of all read VA State Code 18.2-308 which
> explains what is considered concealed. You can
> search VA State Code on line. There are code
> sections shortly after 18.2-308 which explains
> that you cant take a firearm into a church, bar,
> airport terminal, or a school. You can also
> looking into the hunting section which says that
> you can't have a loaded firearm when in hunting
> areas out of season.
>
> VA State code 15.2-915.2 says that county, city
> and town jurisdictions can make laws relating to
> the carrying of loaded firearms illegal. So you
> will have to research each county to see if they
> have local laws prohibiting the carrying of loaded
> weapons outside of the "assault" weapon
> definitions. Fairfax County never made such a law
> and you can carry weapons in the open just like
> your picture. Remember, there has to be a law
> specifically telling you that you can not do
> certain things. If there is no law, then you can
> do it.
>
> In Virginia, you can carry a handgun on your belt
> (not concealed) or a shotgun slung over your
> shoulder into any business or down any street and
> do it legally. As long as it is not a school,
> bar, airport terminal, church. You can carry it
> on private property unless the owner or management
> prohibits you from carrying such a weapon either
> by signage or verbal explanation. An example is
> the courthouse where there is signage prohibiting
> weapons into the facilities.
>
> Now just because you have a right to carry a
> weapon in the open, does not mean that it is the
> smart thing to do. Yes, people will call the
> police on you and the police will respond and
> confront you. It might not be a pleasant police
> encounter and remember, the police are just doing
> their jobs. You wont be criminally charged if you
> are in the right. But is it really worth the
> hassle. My suggestion is to get a concealed
> weapon permit and carry concealed. That way the
> pubic will not get alarmed and call the police.
> If they public cant see the weapon, they cant get
> alarmed.

Why do police respond "unpleasantly" if they know the law isn't being broken?

Guy Mandude Wrote:
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> Antiasshat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nothing like a good gun thread to trigger the
> > sanctimonious pussyhat wearing freedom hating
> > libtards. They hate guns almost as much as they
> > hate Trump. I think I’m going to go out to
> the
> > range tomorrow and put a few clips through my
> > Glock in honor of our founding fathers who
> > enshrined our right to keep and bear arms in
> the
> > bill of rights and all the brave soldiers who
> died
> > to keep us free.
>
>

I'm going to put a few MAGAZINES through my
> 1911 and a few CLIPS through my M1Garand for the
> same reason. Unlike a Glock, both were made in in
> the USA.

Smith and Wesson and me will be honoring our veterans the same way today and celebrating our freedom in the greatest country on earth

...... Wrote:
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> Just do it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Being a recently retired law enforcement
> officer,
> > here is your answer. Virginia is an "open
> carry"
> > state. That means you can carry a firearm as
> long
> > as it is not concealed. You can carry a
> firearm
> > concealed if you have a permit.
> >
> > Therefore, you are able to carry a loaded
> weapon
> > in public as long as there is not a law telling
> > you that you can not do so. So do your
> homework.
> > First of all read VA State Code 18.2-308 which
> > explains what is considered concealed. You can
> > search VA State Code on line. There are code
> > sections shortly after 18.2-308 which explains
> > that you cant take a firearm into a church,
> bar,
> > airport terminal, or a school. You can also
> > looking into the hunting section which says
> that
> > you can't have a loaded firearm when in hunting
> > areas out of season.
> >
> > VA State code 15.2-915.2 says that county, city
> > and town jurisdictions can make laws relating
> to
> > the carrying of loaded firearms illegal. So
> you
> > will have to research each county to see if
> they
> > have local laws prohibiting the carrying of
> loaded
> > weapons outside of the "assault" weapon
> > definitions. Fairfax County never made such a
> law
> > and you can carry weapons in the open just like
> > your picture. Remember, there has to be a law
> > specifically telling you that you can not do
> > certain things. If there is no law, then you
> can
> > do it.
> >
> > In Virginia, you can carry a handgun on your
> belt
> > (not concealed) or a shotgun slung over your
> > shoulder into any business or down any street
> and
> > do it legally. As long as it is not a school,
> > bar, airport terminal, church. You can carry
> it
> > on private property unless the owner or
> management
> > prohibits you from carrying such a weapon
> either
> > by signage or verbal explanation. An example is
> > the courthouse where there is signage
> prohibiting
> > weapons into the facilities.
> >
> > Now just because you have a right to carry a
> > weapon in the open, does not mean that it is
> the
> > smart thing to do. Yes, people will call the
> > police on you and the police will respond and
> > confront you. It might not be a pleasant police
> > encounter and remember, the police are just
> doing
> > their jobs. You wont be criminally charged if
> you
> > are in the right. But is it really worth the
> > hassle. My suggestion is to get a concealed
> > weapon permit and carry concealed. That way
> the
> > pubic will not get alarmed and call the police.
>
> > If they public cant see the weapon, they cant
> get
> > alarmed.
>
> Why do police respond "unpleasantly" if they know
> the law isn't being broken?

They don't. Dispatchers are trained to respond to 911 calls by distinguishing the difference between open carry and "brandishing". So are the cops.

S&W is a British owned company. Morons.

OCinFFXCity Wrote:
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> ...... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just do it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Being a recently retired law enforcement
> > officer,
> > > here is your answer. Virginia is an "open
> > carry"
> > > state. That means you can carry a firearm as
> > long
> > > as it is not concealed. You can carry a
> > firearm
> > > concealed if you have a permit.
> > >
> > > Therefore, you are able to carry a loaded
> > weapon
> > > in public as long as there is not a law
> telling
> > > you that you can not do so. So do your
> > homework.
> > > First of all read VA State Code 18.2-308
> which
> > > explains what is considered concealed. You
> can
> > > search VA State Code on line. There are code
> > > sections shortly after 18.2-308 which
> explains
> > > that you cant take a firearm into a church,
> > bar,
> > > airport terminal, or a school. You can also
> > > looking into the hunting section which says
> > that
> > > you can't have a loaded firearm when in
> hunting
> > > areas out of season.
> > >
> > > VA State code 15.2-915.2 says that county,
> city
> > > and town jurisdictions can make laws relating
> > to
> > > the carrying of loaded firearms illegal. So
> > you
> > > will have to research each county to see if
> > they
> > > have local laws prohibiting the carrying of
> > loaded
> > > weapons outside of the "assault" weapon
> > > definitions. Fairfax County never made such
> a
> > law
> > > and you can carry weapons in the open just
> like
> > > your picture. Remember, there has to be a
> law
> > > specifically telling you that you can not do
> > > certain things. If there is no law, then you
> > can
> > > do it.
> > >
> > > In Virginia, you can carry a handgun on your
> > belt
> > > (not concealed) or a shotgun slung over your
> > > shoulder into any business or down any street
> > and
> > > do it legally. As long as it is not a
> school,
> > > bar, airport terminal, church. You can carry
> > it
> > > on private property unless the owner or
> > management
> > > prohibits you from carrying such a weapon
> > either
> > > by signage or verbal explanation. An example
> is
> > > the courthouse where there is signage
> > prohibiting
> > > weapons into the facilities.
> > >
> > > Now just because you have a right to carry a
> > > weapon in the open, does not mean that it is
> > the
> > > smart thing to do. Yes, people will call the
> > > police on you and the police will respond and
> > > confront you. It might not be a pleasant
> police
> > > encounter and remember, the police are just
> > doing
> > > their jobs. You wont be criminally charged if
> > you
> > > are in the right. But is it really worth the
> > > hassle. My suggestion is to get a concealed
> > > weapon permit and carry concealed. That way
> > the
> > > pubic will not get alarmed and call the
> police.
> >
> > > If they public cant see the weapon, they cant
> > get
> > > alarmed.
> >
> > Why do police respond "unpleasantly" if they
> know
> > the law isn't being broken?
>
> They don't. Dispatchers are trained to respond to
> 911 calls by distinguishing the difference between
> open carry and "brandishing". So are the cops.

I'm just using the language the ex cop used.

....... Wrote:
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> OCinFFXCity Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Just do it Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Being a recently retired law enforcement
> > > officer,
> > > > here is your answer. Virginia is an "open
> > > carry"
> > > > state. That means you can carry a firearm
> as
> > > long
> > > > as it is not concealed. You can carry a
> > > firearm
> > > > concealed if you have a permit.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, you are able to carry a loaded
> > > weapon
> > > > in public as long as there is not a law
> > telling
> > > > you that you can not do so. So do your
> > > homework.
> > > > First of all read VA State Code 18.2-308
> > which
> > > > explains what is considered concealed. You
> > can
> > > > search VA State Code on line. There are
> code
> > > > sections shortly after 18.2-308 which
> > explains
> > > > that you cant take a firearm into a church,
> > > bar,
> > > > airport terminal, or a school. You can
> also
> > > > looking into the hunting section which says
> > > that
> > > > you can't have a loaded firearm when in
> > hunting
> > > > areas out of season.
> > > >
> > > > VA State code 15.2-915.2 says that county,
> > city
> > > > and town jurisdictions can make laws
> relating
> > > to
> > > > the carrying of loaded firearms illegal.
> So
> > > you
> > > > will have to research each county to see if
> > > they
> > > > have local laws prohibiting the carrying of
> > > loaded
> > > > weapons outside of the "assault" weapon
> > > > definitions. Fairfax County never made
> such
> > a
> > > law
> > > > and you can carry weapons in the open just
> > like
> > > > your picture. Remember, there has to be a
> > law
> > > > specifically telling you that you can not
> do
> > > > certain things. If there is no law, then
> you
> > > can
> > > > do it.
> > > >
> > > > In Virginia, you can carry a handgun on
> your
> > > belt
> > > > (not concealed) or a shotgun slung over
> your
> > > > shoulder into any business or down any
> street
> > > and
> > > > do it legally. As long as it is not a
> > school,
> > > > bar, airport terminal, church. You can
> carry
> > > it
> > > > on private property unless the owner or
> > > management
> > > > prohibits you from carrying such a weapon
> > > either
> > > > by signage or verbal explanation. An
> example
> > is
> > > > the courthouse where there is signage
> > > prohibiting
> > > > weapons into the facilities.
> > > >
> > > > Now just because you have a right to carry
> a
> > > > weapon in the open, does not mean that it
> is
> > > the
> > > > smart thing to do. Yes, people will call
> the
> > > > police on you and the police will respond
> and
> > > > confront you. It might not be a pleasant
> > police
> > > > encounter and remember, the police are just
> > > doing
> > > > their jobs. You wont be criminally charged
> if
> > > you
> > > > are in the right. But is it really worth
> the
> > > > hassle. My suggestion is to get a
> concealed
> > > > weapon permit and carry concealed. That
> way
> > > the
> > > > pubic will not get alarmed and call the
> > police.
> > >
> > > > If they public cant see the weapon, they
> cant
> > > get
> > > > alarmed.
> > >
> > > Why do police respond "unpleasantly" if they
> > know
> > > the law isn't being broken?
> >
> > They don't. Dispatchers are trained to respond
> to
> > 911 calls by distinguishing the difference
> between
> > open carry and "brandishing". So are the cops.
>
> I'm just using the language the ex cop used.

Ex cop doesn't seem to be familiar with procedures. If someone calls the cops and reports someone open carrying and the gun is holstered, cops will not respond. Brandishing is another story.

Only legal if you have a confederate flag tint in the window with it.

You should always display your best and most expensive guns on the rack. Post pictures on facebook with the location of the vehicle.

OCinFFXCity Wrote:
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> ....... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OCinFFXCity Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > ...... Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Just do it Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Being a recently retired law enforcement
> > > > officer,
> > > > > here is your answer. Virginia is an
> "open
> > > > carry"
> > > > > state. That means you can carry a
> firearm
> > as
> > > > long
> > > > > as it is not concealed. You can carry a
> > > > firearm
> > > > > concealed if you have a permit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, you are able to carry a loaded
> > > > weapon
> > > > > in public as long as there is not a law
> > > telling
> > > > > you that you can not do so. So do your
> > > > homework.
> > > > > First of all read VA State Code 18.2-308
> > > which
> > > > > explains what is considered concealed.
> You
> > > can
> > > > > search VA State Code on line. There are
> > code
> > > > > sections shortly after 18.2-308 which
> > > explains
> > > > > that you cant take a firearm into a
> church,
> > > > bar,
> > > > > airport terminal, or a school. You can
> > also
> > > > > looking into the hunting section which
> says
> > > > that
> > > > > you can't have a loaded firearm when in
> > > hunting
> > > > > areas out of season.
> > > > >
> > > > > VA State code 15.2-915.2 says that
> county,
> > > city
> > > > > and town jurisdictions can make laws
> > relating
> > > > to
> > > > > the carrying of loaded firearms illegal.
> > So
> > > > you
> > > > > will have to research each county to see
> if
> > > > they
> > > > > have local laws prohibiting the carrying
> of
> > > > loaded
> > > > > weapons outside of the "assault" weapon
> > > > > definitions. Fairfax County never made
> > such
> > > a
> > > > law
> > > > > and you can carry weapons in the open
> just
> > > like
> > > > > your picture. Remember, there has to be
> a
> > > law
> > > > > specifically telling you that you can not
> > do
> > > > > certain things. If there is no law, then
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > do it.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Virginia, you can carry a handgun on
> > your
> > > > belt
> > > > > (not concealed) or a shotgun slung over
> > your
> > > > > shoulder into any business or down any
> > street
> > > > and
> > > > > do it legally. As long as it is not a
> > > school,
> > > > > bar, airport terminal, church. You can
> > carry
> > > > it
> > > > > on private property unless the owner or
> > > > management
> > > > > prohibits you from carrying such a weapon
> > > > either
> > > > > by signage or verbal explanation. An
> > example
> > > is
> > > > > the courthouse where there is signage
> > > > prohibiting
> > > > > weapons into the facilities.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now just because you have a right to
> carry
> > a
> > > > > weapon in the open, does not mean that it
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > smart thing to do. Yes, people will call
> > the
> > > > > police on you and the police will respond
> > and
> > > > > confront you. It might not be a pleasant
> > > police
> > > > > encounter and remember, the police are
> just
> > > > doing
> > > > > their jobs. You wont be criminally
> charged
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > are in the right. But is it really worth
> > the
> > > > > hassle. My suggestion is to get a
> > concealed
> > > > > weapon permit and carry concealed. That
> > way
> > > > the
> > > > > pubic will not get alarmed and call the
> > > police.
> > > >
> > > > > If they public cant see the weapon, they
> > cant
> > > > get
> > > > > alarmed.
> > > >
> > > > Why do police respond "unpleasantly" if
> they
> > > know
> > > > the law isn't being broken?
> > >
> > > They don't. Dispatchers are trained to
> respond
> > to
> > > 911 calls by distinguishing the difference
> > between
> > > open carry and "brandishing". So are the
> cops.
> >
> > I'm just using the language the ex cop used.
>
> Ex cop doesn't seem to be familiar with
> procedures. If someone calls the cops and reports
> someone open carrying and the gun is holstered,
> cops will not respond. Brandishing is another
> story.

Do you honestly think the average retard can compose themselves enough to explain that to a cop they are calling?

And for the record, you open carry retards are just a dumb.

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> > > > > > Being a recently retired law
> enforcement
> > > > > officer,
> > > > > > here is your answer. Virginia is an
> > "open
> > > > > carry"
> > > > > > state. That means you can carry a
> > firearm
> > > as
> > > > > long
> > > > > > as it is not concealed. You can carry
> a
> > > > > firearm
> > > > > > concealed if you have a permit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Therefore, you are able to carry a
> loaded
> > > > > weapon
> > > > > > in public as long as there is not a law
> > > > telling
> > > > > > you that you can not do so. So do your
> > > > > homework.
> > > > > > First of all read VA State Code
> 18.2-308
> > > > which
> > > > > > explains what is considered concealed.
> > You
> > > > can
> > > > > > search VA State Code on line. There
> are
> > > code
> > > > > > sections shortly after 18.2-308 which
> > > > explains
> > > > > > that you cant take a firearm into a
> > church,
> > > > > bar,
> > > > > > airport terminal, or a school. You can
> > > also
> > > > > > looking into the hunting section which
> > says
> > > > > that
> > > > > > you can't have a loaded firearm when in
> > > > hunting
> > > > > > areas out of season.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > VA State code 15.2-915.2 says that
> > county,
> > > > city
> > > > > > and town jurisdictions can make laws
> > > relating
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the carrying of loaded firearms illegal.
>
> > > So
> > > > > you
> > > > > > will have to research each county to
> see
> > if
> > > > > they
> > > > > > have local laws prohibiting the
> carrying
> > of
> > > > > loaded
> > > > > > weapons outside of the "assault" weapon
> > > > > > definitions. Fairfax County never made
> > > such
> > > > a
> > > > > law
> > > > > > and you can carry weapons in the open
> > just
> > > > like
> > > > > > your picture. Remember, there has to
> be
> > a
> > > > law
> > > > > > specifically telling you that you can
> not
> > > do
> > > > > > certain things. If there is no law,
> then
> > > you
> > > > > can
> > > > > > do it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In Virginia, you can carry a handgun on
> > > your
> > > > > belt
> > > > > > (not concealed) or a shotgun slung over
> > > your
> > > > > > shoulder into any business or down any
> > > street
> > > > > and
> > > > > > do it legally. As long as it is not a
> > > > school,
> > > > > > bar, airport terminal, church. You can
> > > carry
> > > > > it
> > > > > > on private property unless the owner or
> > > > > management
> > > > > > prohibits you from carrying such a
> weapon
> > > > > either
> > > > > > by signage or verbal explanation. An
> > > example
> > > > is
> > > > > > the courthouse where there is signage
> > > > > prohibiting
> > > > > > weapons into the facilities.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now just because you have a right to
> > carry
> > > a
> > > > > > weapon in the open, does not mean that
> it
> > > is
> > > > > the
> > > > > > smart thing to do. Yes, people will
> call
> > > the
> > > > > > police on you and the police will
> respond
> > > and
> > > > > > confront you. It might not be a
> pleasant
> > > > police
> > > > > > encounter and remember, the police are
> > just
> > > > > doing
> > > > > > their jobs. You wont be criminally
> > charged
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > are in the right. But is it really
> worth
> > > the
> > > > > > hassle. My suggestion is to get a
> > > concealed
> > > > > > weapon permit and carry concealed.
> That
> > > way
> > > > > the
> > > > > > pubic will not get alarmed and call the
> > > > police.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If they public cant see the weapon,
> they
> > > cant
> > > > > get
> > > > > > alarmed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do police respond "unpleasantly" if
> > they
> > > > know
> > > > > the law isn't being broken?
> > > >
> > > > They don't. Dispatchers are trained to
> > respond
> > > to
> > > > 911 calls by distinguishing the difference
> > > between
> > > > open carry and "brandishing". So are the
> > cops.
> > >
> > > I'm just using the language the ex cop used.
> >
> > Ex cop doesn't seem to be familiar with
> > procedures. If someone calls the cops and
> reports
> > someone open carrying and the gun is holstered,
> > cops will not respond. Brandishing is another
> > story.
>
> Do you honestly think the average retard can
> compose themselves enough to explain that to a cop
> they are calling?
>
> And for the record, you open carry retards are
> just a dumb.


Average retards don't call a cop. They call into dispatch. Who then will question said retard to figure out WTF they're trying to report and whether it's worth bothering to send out a car. Which some retard who has wet their panties simply because they saw someone with a holstered gun won't be.