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Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: amybelle ()
Date: September 05, 2013 05:33PM

Sangster principal gone from website. Reports that he was escorted out of the building today. Why?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Amybelle ()
Date: September 05, 2013 06:10PM

Message from Cluster VI Assistant Superintendent
SangsterES [SangsterEs.KeepInTouch@fcps.edu]

Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:01 PM

A message from SANGSTER ES

Dear Sangster Community,
Mr. Christopher Summers has resigned as principal of Sangster Elementary effective Friday, September 6, 2013. An acting principal will be named as soon as possible. Ms. Allison Jankovich and Ms. Addison Smith will continue to serve as assistant principals at Sangster.
I have every confidence that these excellent educators will provide strong and capable support and leadership for students, parents, and staff at Sangster Elementary.
As more information becomes available, you can expect to hear from me. We anticipate only great outcomes for the new school year and thank you for your continued support of Sangster Elementary School.

Sincerely,
Angela Atwater, Ed.D.
Assistant Superintendent, Cluster 6

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Sesparent ()
Date: September 05, 2013 06:20PM

Apparently he has been on admin leave since last Monday.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: FCPSMom ()
Date: September 05, 2013 07:10PM

I thought is was VERY odd (bothersome) that the school principal "wasn't able to attend" the Open House 5 days before school started.

Could be many legit reasons for this, but this totally smacks of an investigation. Either way the timing just, well...sucks. First week of school and principal resigns...not exactly a way to promote confidence.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: george ()
Date: September 05, 2013 07:24PM

I agree it was odd that he wasn't there. Also strange:

1. Creating a new second grade and kindergarten the week before school starts.
2. Bus issues with overcrowding
3. Building new modulars on the school property while school is in session. These are always done during the summer.

Its like everything was a surprise?! Possibly:

A. Incompetency in the school admin - but I discount that since the turnover is very low -- high turnover is the usual sign of poor admin.

or

B. Maybe the cluster office is totally incompetent and Mr. Summers didn't tink he could succeed so he resigned in protest or had some choice words for the cluster and now he is out.

or

C. Some unlawful act (I hope not)

Either way, I am hoping that the new admin can come in and clean things up, including hiring the new 2nd grade teacher and getting transport squared away.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: in the know...... ()
Date: September 05, 2013 08:07PM

I heard that he won a lottery from another state and just walked away. Good for him.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: George is right! ()
Date: September 05, 2013 08:08PM

The same thing happened at our school.

FCPS is no longer number one.

Where is this Garza chick?

I want her to be at every school and have an open forum with parents.

It can be done!

Just ask Bill Gates.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Fcps ()
Date: September 05, 2013 08:39PM

They build the modular over the summer. The numbers worked out to get a new second and the kindergarten position has been posted since April. Thr bus issue happened to the buses last year due to thr increasing amount of students. Get your facts right.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Parent at ses ()
Date: September 05, 2013 08:42PM

Teachers are added anytime until the end of sept. (they can also be taken away!) all is due to enrollment. Glad Sangster is on the adding end. I heard CR got a new teacher this week too and orange hunt is adding a kindergarten class. Being out on admin leave most likely means (to me) he was involved in something. However, who knows. They won't tell us, I would be shocked if we found out.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: also in the know ()
Date: September 05, 2013 09:18PM

there was a pta meeting tonight, information was given out. anybody there/know what was said?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Bridget Cox ()
Date: September 05, 2013 10:45PM

I suggest a reason be provided to the sangster parents for the principles departure. The lack of transparency indicates a serious problem that will only worry the parents and cause a lack of trust in the administration. The reason need not have all the details of the depature just a basic statement would be nice.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Falcon ()
Date: September 05, 2013 11:16PM

Asst superintendent Atwater told PTA that the former principal was getting the support of his family and that she prays for him. Said it was a very personal issue inspiring the resignation and that parents would NOT be reading about it in the newspaper, whatever it is.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 05, 2013 11:55PM

It's none of our business. I pray that everything is alright with him and his family. He is a good guy.

Let's be honest here though, elementary school administration is not difficult. I am sure the assistant principals will be able to pick up the slack. In this case, it is even better as the assistant principals were running the show past two weeks with back to school activities.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: svennestle ()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:10AM

if you had filed any complaints the pricipal did something wrong or was over-paid

kiss them good-bye. you now can't find the guy.

that's what fairfax does. rotation. liability reduction.

they do it at la courthouse continually

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Julie 78 ()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:13AM

Seriously Steve? It is our business as it is our children's education and if he was put on administrative leave for something dangerous or illegal we should know about it. He does appear to be a good guy and I do hope everything works out for him.

As for elementary school administration not being difficult you can't possibly work in education or have much concern for children or work in leadership development. It takes a great variety of skills and leadership abilities to be a good elementary school principal.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Speculating Speculator. ()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:15AM

Falcon Wrote:
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> Asst superintendent Atwater told PTA that the
> former principal was getting the support of his
> family and that she prays for him. Said it was a
> very personal issue inspiring the resignation and
> that parents would NOT be reading about it in the
> newspaper, whatever it is.

There's no record in the arrest search, and the fact that Atwater says that "we won't be reading about it in the newspaper" means he wasn't a kid-fiddler or doing some other crime that would result in his arrest, because we absolutely would be reading about that in the newspaper.

The "getting the support of his family" line leads me to believe it's a drugs or alcohol problem.

Kind of a sad end for the career for someone who was nominated for outstanding first year principal.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: ReTIRED Teacher ()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:42AM

Chris was a fellow teacher at Rachel Carson MS with me about 5 years ago, before going the administrative route. He was a great teacher and extremely popular with the students. Knowing Chris I am 100% sure no kids were ever in danger at the school, and if they were the parents would have been notified. There is no need to pry here. Trust me.

This sounds like a medical problem to me more than anything else. Send your prayers his way.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Strange Dude ()
Date: September 06, 2013 08:58AM

I've always thought there was something up with that guy. Just didn't like they way he stood out front of the school sporting his aviators, arms crossed and watching the kids come out of the school. Hardly interacted with any of them. Heard too that a lot of the teachers weren't too high on him as well. Looked like he was warden not a principal.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: el70 ()
Date: September 06, 2013 09:49AM

Sad to see him go. He was a great principal. This is our second FCPS school experience and the first principal (I will not name) was really bad.

I really think that there should be some explanation though...it isnt right to keep parents wondering whether or not they were dealing with a person who cannot be trusted with children.

Was he paid to keep quiet and leave????

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: trusted ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:01AM

This is why we can't attract real talent to the field of education. If what happened with Mr. Summers was any real problem it would have made the news. Like the Asst. Sup. said this is a personal decision. Meaning none,of anybodies business. Anybody ever quit a job before? Tell your boss why, you don't have to explain it to hundreds of people. If anything thislis a great time to teach your children that life is full of change and move on. Endless gossiping does nothing but waste time.

Again, another worthless cyberbullying thread...

Why anybody would ever want to work in the field of education is beyond me, this level of scrutiny for crsp money...

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: who go ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:04AM

If a medical issue, why not go on disability and collect a big fat check.

Principals make like $120K. Why leave that money on the table?

Do they drug test principals?

They should.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: A Sangster Parent ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:09AM

Strange timings.

As a parent, we should know some form or other a reason behind a sudden departure. Didn't he just went to China as FCPS rep on some sort of educational trip over the summer?

I had the similar experience with Cherry Run and ever since CR is on the path to downhill starting with eliminating the AAP program 2-3 years ago. I sincerly hope Sangster can keep the advance curriculum and continue with the reputation it has.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: possibly???? ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:11AM

Maybe he was frequenting Burke Lake Park to feed a drug habit????

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: why? ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:12AM

Why leave that money on the table?

Because that job sucks, thats why.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: get real. ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:13AM

trusted Wrote:
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> This is why we can't attract real talent to the
> field of education. If what happened with Mr.
> Summers was any real problem it would have made
> the news. Like the Asst. Sup. said this is a
> personal decision. Meaning none,of anybodies
> business. Anybody ever quit a job before? Tell
> your boss why, you don't have to explain it to
> hundreds of people. If anything thislis a great
> time to teach your children that life is full of
> change and move on. Endless gossiping does nothing
> but waste time.
>
> Again, another worthless cyberbullying thread...
>
> Why anybody would ever want to work in the field
> of education is beyond me, this level of scrutiny
> for crsp money...

You don't get to go into a field dealing with kids and expect to just be able to quit without an explanation. People will fill in the blanks in the absence of a logical explanation. That's part of the territory now - if you don't want to deal with the scrutiny, go work in some private sector job where no one will look or care.

cyberbullying???? puh-lease.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: trusted ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:27AM

get real. Wrote:
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>
> You don't get to go into a field dealing with kids
> and expect to just be able to quit without an
> explanation. People will fill in the blanks in
> the absence of a logical explanation. That's part
> of the territory now - if you don't want to deal
> with the scrutiny, go work in some private sector
> job where no one will look or care.
>
> cyberbullying???? puh-lease.


Principal Summers could give a shit how you fill in your blanks, go ahead. Ignorant people like you piss me off.

Whatever he did, the kids at the school were fine, and the school had a great reputation in a trashy part of the county.

Whatever circumstance he was facing, we have been told it had nothing to do with the children, there was no criminal action whatsoever, and the kids loved this guy. Leave it at that.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: the truth about it ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:28AM

Speculation, but this sounds similar to a couple other cases, where an administrator lied about an advanced college degree.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: too dramatic ()
Date: September 06, 2013 10:54AM

language like Pray for the family probably is unrelated to faking a degree.

Much more serious.

I hate these pTA suckups who will defend a school no matter what.

Go pound it ladies-the community has a right to information.

And guess what?

Drug addicts make bad decisions. Was anyone harmed at this school?

Somebody better find out.

I'm sorry but the guy is a selfish prick to not deal with his "probloem" over the summer. Really? The first week of school and then you "resign".

Glad it's all about you pal.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: el70 ()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:03AM

No, we won't hear about this in the news because of this:

He did something that was unacceptable (seems pretty obvious). They made a deal with him...accept a payout from FCPS or we will expose you.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: bingo ()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:07AM

possibly???? Wrote:
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> Maybe he was frequenting Burke Lake Park to feed a
> drug habit????


^^^^^^

This. I bet he was feeding his drug habit by performing favors for men at Burke Lake. How far is Sangster from there? Less than a mile?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Hey get real.... ()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:13AM

bingo Wrote:
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> possibly???? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe he was frequenting Burke Lake Park to feed
> a
> > drug habit????
>
>
> ^^^^^^
>
> This. I bet he was feeding his drug habit by
> performing favors for men at Burke Lake. How far
> is Sangster from there? Less than a mile?


This isnt Cyberbullying to you?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: pay ()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:19AM

FCPS rarely pressures an administrator to resign. Usually they park the bad ones somewhere (there was even one administrator like this--a glorified "clerk" for afterschool activities--at TJ/so dysfunctional that she tried to have the psychology club banned, claiming that psychology is very dangerous).

It sounds like this principal was forced to resign and keep quiet, otherwise FCPS would have to fire him. Classic FCPS damage control. They never want parents to have any real information.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: FCPS Mom ()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:14PM

"the school had a great reputation in a trashy part of the county" really 'trusted', now who's the cyberbully?

Judgemental much?

Parents have a right to know. If you don't want everyone to know your business, then don't become a public servant.

FCPS may be trying to keep some scandal hush hush, but at this point not saying anything is far more damaging than actually telling us the TRUTH.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Mickey ()
Date: September 06, 2013 12:30PM

FCPS Mom Wrote:
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> "the school had a great reputation in a trashy
> part of the county" really 'trusted', now who's
> the cyberbully?
>
> Judgemental much?
>
> Parents have a right to know. If you don't want
> everyone to know your business, then don't become
> a public servant.
>
> FCPS may be trying to keep some scandal hush hush,
> but at this point not saying anything is far more
> damaging than actually telling us the TRUTH.


Actually, as an onlooker without a dog in this fight, it is really quite entertaining reading what all you idle mommies can come up with, and listening to your whining and complaining.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 06, 2013 01:22PM

FCPS Mom Wrote:
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> FCPS may be trying to keep some scandal hush hush,
> but at this point not saying anything is far more
> damaging than actually telling us the TRUTH.


Really? I've heard of more than one scandal that never got reported to the general public. The truth never came out, everyone was okay, and everyone moved on.

Not saying anything is the way to go. In a couple weeks you PTA mothers will be on to another issue in the community. What could the truth possibly get Summers in this case assuming he did something wrong which I do not think is the case.

If you are so worried about your kids, sit them down and ask if anything happened between them and the principal, everyone of them will say no. STFU and leave it alone.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: I know ()
Date: September 06, 2013 01:56PM

You guys have no idea the secrets that admin has.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: another possibility ()
Date: September 06, 2013 02:29PM

I heard he was gay. Is it possible he was hitting on male teachers there?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: ferris ()
Date: September 06, 2013 02:31PM

Wake up and smell the coffee, Mrs. Bueller. It's a fool's paradise. He is just leading you down the primrose path.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: annonymous ()
Date: September 06, 2013 03:31PM

We have no idea what happened. All we know is that he was on Administrative Leave and then resigned. It could be for any number of reasons. Now, typically, if a person is on leave and resigns for their own personal reasons (i.e. family illness), some sort of statement will be made to that effect. Since, that didn't happen, it leads us all to believe it wasn't his choice to be on leave and that he resigned before he could be fired. As parents, that scares us. There are far too many incidents of authoritative figures doing something they shouldn't and the people closest to them don't always know. And, sometimes, when people do know, they still cover it up. So, when someone in power tells us not to worry, that doesn't really put us at ease. It just makes us worry more. And, rumors that he was escorted off the property yesterday doesn't help.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Jack Dale ()
Date: September 06, 2013 04:31PM

I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone dropped the G word.

School is open, kids are safe, teachers are teaching.

Move on, there is nothing to see her.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Lack of Transparency? ()
Date: September 06, 2013 04:43PM

Oh, you mean like the Turf Task Force?

FCPS would prefer that nothing they do be known. Like termites, they build their empires in secrecy.

Jack Dale would have been proud. Not sure how Karen Garza is getting through all of this, what with at least two investigations over the turf report going on right now...

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: I know ()
Date: September 06, 2013 05:08PM

I have it on authority that he wanted to Marry his partner but his bosses didn't want to have to present a same sex Principal to the community. They had an arguement and he resigned. Thats all. Maybe now all of the gross comments can stop.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Anonymous2000000 ()
Date: September 06, 2013 05:30PM

If that's true, why would he be on Administrative leave and have his office cleaned out before school started? A simple resignation would make sense, but Administrative leave?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: I don't know.. ()
Date: September 06, 2013 05:33PM

The whole gay marriage issue seems a non-starter. There's nothing unacceptable about that that would result in a dismissal - gay marriage is legal and socially acceptable. Fairfax County isn't at all conservative. I'd almost think FCPS would like to have an openly gay principal. What's the downside?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Fairfaxian ()
Date: September 06, 2013 05:36PM

> the school had a great reputation in a trashy
> part of the county.

The neighborhoods that feed into Sangster are hardly "trashy." Those are established middle-to-upper-middle-income neighborhoods.

You must think everything north of Clifton and south of Great Falls is "trashy," too.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Sangsterdad ()
Date: September 06, 2013 05:55PM

How about misuse of county property to promote a business venture he had on the side? Conflict of interest cases usually takes a while to figure out (thus the administrative leave) and in the end he choose his other business interest to pursue so they escorted him out.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: You Idiot ()
Date: September 06, 2013 06:02PM

I know Wrote:
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> I have it on authority that he wanted to Marry his
> partner but his bosses didn't want to have to
> present a same sex Principal to the community.
> They had an arguement and he resigned. Thats
> all. Maybe now all of the gross comments can
> stop.

You're a really bad troll.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Truth is... ()
Date: September 06, 2013 06:09PM

Fairfaxian Wrote:
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> > the school had a great reputation in a trashy
> > part of the county.
>
> The neighborhoods that feed into Sangster are
> hardly "trashy." Those are established
> middle-to-upper-middle-income neighborhoods.
>
> You must think everything north of Clifton and
> south of Great Falls is "trashy," too.


No, Springfield is trashy.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Any Facts? ()
Date: September 06, 2013 06:13PM

Sangsterdad Wrote:
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> How about misuse of county property to promote a
> business venture he had on the side? Conflict of
> interest cases usually takes a while to figure out
> (thus the administrative leave) and in the end he
> choose his other business interest to pursue so
> they escorted him out.

Are you just speculating, or is there some there there? What 'county property' could he misuse - pencils? Are county employees allowed to run outside businesses? Even if he is, I don't know how that would be a conflict of interest, unless it was directly school related or he was operating/promoting his business on school time.

People sure seem eager to speculate on this man's personal life. I wouldn't be happy either if I had a kid in this school under these circumstances, but I wouldn't trash the guy unless I had a reason to do so.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: September 06, 2013 06:42PM

Pencils? Are you serious? How about using computer assets, access to email addresses, other school/county owned equipment... Get paid by the county while working on your other opportunity..

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: NCOs ()
Date: September 06, 2013 06:49PM

You are all fools! He had a family emergency .... Pray for him and his family ... Why do you all jump to bad conclusions ? Get off this board and gets a life!

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Just a theory ()
Date: September 06, 2013 07:33PM

Maybe he was a Russian spy?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Fairfaxian ()
Date: September 06, 2013 07:36PM

Truth is... Wrote:
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> Fairfaxian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > the school had a great reputation in a trashy
> > > part of the county.
> >
> > The neighborhoods that feed into Sangster are
> > hardly "trashy." Those are established
> > middle-to-upper-middle-income neighborhoods.
> >
> > You must think everything north of Clifton and
> > south of Great Falls is "trashy," too.
>
>
> No, Springfield is trashy.

Springfield encompasses four ZIP codes. It's enormous. Sangster is fed into by neighborhoods that have far more in common with Burke and Fairfax Station than, say, the ones over by the former Springfield Mall.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Sangster_Parent_6 ()
Date: September 06, 2013 08:53PM

I hope there is nothing for anyone to be concerned about.

But this is our school, our taxes pay the salaries of the school board and the principals, and these are our Children.

We need a honest accounting from FCPS on just one issue -- was the Principal placed on leave for any allegation or report endangering the health or well-being of a child.

If NO, then it's not my business.

If "um, we cant answer that question unless in the present tense," then we've got a real issue.

I know many people who respect Mr. Summers -- great. Answer the question -- and I don't care what the issue was..

Please help communicate this message to the FCPS, and we can all go back to worrying about other thigns.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: county policy ()
Date: September 06, 2013 08:57PM

County employees need written permission for ANY outside business activities, if they don't get it and get caught, they are fired and prosecuted.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: aintitthetruth ()
Date: September 06, 2013 09:18PM

Bridget Cox Wrote:
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> I suggest a reason be provided to the sangster
> parents for the principles departure. The lack of
> transparency indicates a serious problem that will
> only worry the parents and cause a lack of trust
> in the administration. The reason need not have
> all the details of the depature just a basic
> statement would be nice.


Actually, what you're really looking for is some nice, juicy gossip to start the semester off right.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: el ()
Date: September 06, 2013 09:31PM

People with family emergencies usually take leave. Another FCPS teacher had her child pass away the other year and she was out for a while. Don't you think Mr. Summers would have exhausted his leave options before resigning from such a high position?

He resigned suddenly...no goodbyes to staff or students...gone...

Something stinks.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Not a "mommy" ()
Date: September 06, 2013 09:46PM

Your assumption that those reading this blog are "mommies" is just asinine and shows a complete lack of awareness into what types of people are interested in this situation.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Sangster parent ()
Date: September 06, 2013 11:34PM

I've had two kids at Sangster. He was always caring and appropriate with my children. I do think, as parents of children that were in contact with this educator, we have a right to further information regarding his departure. A letter in the 'Thursday Folder' is an inappropriate way to find out you kid's principal left school suddenly.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: reason ()
Date: September 07, 2013 08:11PM

If he had a family problem or other appropriate personal issue he would have said goodbye. There is no excuse for not saying goodbye to the teachers and especially the students. Principals have extended illnesses or have family members sick or even die and they make an effort to let everyone know that they will be leaving.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: MR.MANN ()
Date: September 07, 2013 08:13PM

HIS GOING TO JOIN ME IN DC SOON

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: facepalm ()
Date: September 07, 2013 08:16PM

NCOs Wrote:
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> You are all fools! He had a family emergency ....
> Pray for him and his family ... Why do you all
> jump to bad conclusions ? Get off this board and
> gets a life!


Who gets escorted out for a family emergency?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: HAHAHAHAHA! ()
Date: September 07, 2013 09:11PM

This is all so funny and sad to read.

No one on here has any REAL facts about what happened or why.

All the comments about FCPS are based on personal opinion.
All the comments about Mr. Summers is personal opinion and speculation.
All the comments about the location of the school are just silly.

It's all very judgmental.

This whole situation is being handled. Not necessarily the way YOU would like, but so what? Life doesn't always go the way we'd like.

It isn't the PTA's job to do anything in any of this...they are supposed to help support the school. Period.

The administration, both at the school and FCPS, is handling it the way they are handling it. Whether everyone likes it that way or not.

There will be a new principal. There will be an interim principal. The old principal is gone. IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHY. There has been assurance it wasn't anything illegal and the kids weren't in jeopardy. Take that as all that will be given. It's all that should be given. It isn't anyone's business except the parties involved DIRECTLY. That includes a very small number of people. And probably not YOU.

The speculation is really amusing. Maybe he got picked up to travel to the International Space Station! Maybe he found a stray cat and wants to dedicate his life to rescuing animals! Maybe he decided to road-trip it to Alaska and swim over to Russia!

Too funny. If you don't KNOW...stop guessing, because even if you heard it from a "really, really reliable source!" you're still just guessing. And it's hurtful...not helpful.

All the judgements about the commenters are really entertaining.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Dee ()
Date: September 08, 2013 10:39AM

None are so entertaining as yours. It is fine for people to speculate. Frankly you are as well. No one has to accept that because you or an administrtor say "it's being handled," that it is being handled. Get off your high horse. If a teacher working with your kid was fired under the same circumstances you'd want every detail, a principal is no different.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: TypicalFCPS ()
Date: September 08, 2013 11:41AM

Typical, FCPS covering up another scandal because they can't handle more bad press.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: svennestle ()
Date: September 08, 2013 02:07PM

"a family emergency"

well that's as false a report as any. what emergency? if you know why didn't you say? your as false as everybody wondering.

MAYBE he's a republican and the new FCPS super intendant found out. political firings happen.

maybe he was ousted. maybe his family problem was not unrelated: maybe it was caused to oust him.

i'll bet he's replaced by a green card

i might be wrong. but have you seen fcps? all maint. people are green cards for one thing.

i think they are marauding. is what i think.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Hahahahaa ()
Date: September 08, 2013 02:14PM

"MAYBE he's a republican and the new FCPS super intendant found out. political firings happen."

I literally did a spit take when I saw this. Garza would have to fire about half the county.

Republicans hypocrisy gone Wild, again. Stay out of my business, don't tell me what to do. Except when I want to know someone else's, or have an opinion about what someone else should do. Then it is my business, and government better step in and do something. Wow.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: September 08, 2013 03:38PM

As usual the gossipy helicopter parents don't know a thing, just have plenty of free time on their hands to make up stories.

You know what would be an awesome website. One with a list of names of helicopter parents in Fairfax County where anyone could go and speculate about their lives and their kids and all their problems and everything they do wrong.


HAHAHAHAHA! Wrote:
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> This is all so funny and sad to read.
>
> No one on here has any REAL facts about what
> happened or why.
>
> All the comments about FCPS are based on personal
> opinion.
> All the comments about Mr. Summers is personal
> opinion and speculation.
> All the comments about the location of the school
> are just silly.
>
> It's all very judgmental.
>
> This whole situation is being handled. Not
> necessarily the way YOU would like, but so what?
> Life doesn't always go the way we'd like.
>
> It isn't the PTA's job to do anything in any of
> this...they are supposed to help support the
> school. Period.
>
> The administration, both at the school and FCPS,
> is handling it the way they are handling it.
> Whether everyone likes it that way or not.
>
> There will be a new principal. There will be an
> interim principal. The old principal is gone. IT
> REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHY. There has been
> assurance it wasn't anything illegal and the kids
> weren't in jeopardy. Take that as all that will be
> given. It's all that should be given. It isn't
> anyone's business except the parties involved
> DIRECTLY. That includes a very small number of
> people. And probably not YOU.
>
> The speculation is really amusing. Maybe he got
> picked up to travel to the International Space
> Station! Maybe he found a stray cat and wants to
> dedicate his life to rescuing animals! Maybe he
> decided to road-trip it to Alaska and swim over to
> Russia!
>
> Too funny. If you don't KNOW...stop guessing,
> because even if you heard it from a "really,
> really reliable source!" you're still just
> guessing. And it's hurtful...not helpful.
>
> All the judgements about the commenters are really
> entertaining.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: September 08, 2013 03:40PM

+100


aintitthetruth Wrote:
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> Bridget Cox Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I suggest a reason be provided to the sangster
> > parents for the principles departure. The lack
> of
> > transparency indicates a serious problem that
> will
> > only worry the parents and cause a lack of
> trust
> > in the administration. The reason need not have
> > all the details of the depature just a basic
> > statement would be nice.
>
>
> Actually, what you're really looking for is some
> nice, juicy gossip to start the semester off
> right.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: September 08, 2013 05:53PM

Okay two problems, and if wrong, I'll admit it. First off the OP says he was "escorted from the property." We don't know what that means, and if it is true or not. Escorted by who? What time? What method?

Secondly, where's the administrative leave part? I don't see anything on that. While I'm not going to believe everything FCPS spews out, this sounds like a family matter, or something personal in nature that in no way is going to affect education, children, or anything else.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Anonymous99 ()
Date: September 08, 2013 06:19PM

Allison Jankovich was the one who said he was on administrative leave.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: September 08, 2013 06:23PM

Anonymous99 Wrote:
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> Allison Jankovich was the one who said he was on
> administrative leave.



Message from Cluster VI Assistant Superintendent
SangsterES [SangsterEs.KeepInTouch@fcps.edu]

Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 4:01 PM

A message from SANGSTER ES

Dear Sangster Community,
Mr. Christopher Summers has resigned as principal of Sangster Elementary effective Friday, September 6, 2013. An acting principal will be named as soon as possible. Ms. Allison Jankovich and Ms. Addison Smith will continue to serve as assistant principals at Sangster.
I have every confidence that these excellent educators will provide strong and capable support and leadership for students, parents, and staff at Sangster Elementary.
As more information becomes available, you can expect to hear from me. We anticipate only great outcomes for the new school year and thank you for your continued support of Sangster Elementary School.

Sincerely,
Angela Atwater, Ed.D.
Assistant Superintendent, Cluster 6


Okay I'm not seeing that here. How did she provide that info? Usually unless something comes to public light, such actions would not be mentioned.(Confidential, pending legal matters) I'm not saying you're incorrect, but something just doesn't add up.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2013 06:24PM by Tough One.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: September 08, 2013 06:25PM

Falcon Wrote:
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> Asst superintendent Atwater told PTA that the
> former principal was getting the support of his
> family and that she prays for him. Said it was a
> very personal issue inspiring the resignation and
> that parents would NOT be reading about it in the
> newspaper, whatever it is.


See? Its like there's three sides to the equation.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Anothersangsterparent ()
Date: September 08, 2013 07:20PM

Search "Kevin ricks" on the Washington post. Multiples school systems and just a little resignation each time.... Code of silence in the schools.


I'm sure that's not the case here.... But to tell me this is none of my business, or I'm just looking for gossip, or let this be --- how dare you.

This is my business and should be the business of every parent --- if its personal, fcps is going to have satisfy a little better than that.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: d ()
Date: September 08, 2013 08:05PM

As Sangster parents, we can post our opinions all we want on this board. HOWEVER...is anyone pursuing this with FCPS to get the truth or at least some additional explanation which would make parents feel easier about this?

Also, I wonder if parents/students from his previous school in Herndon (?) are aware of what has happened. He was a teacher in a middle school prior to Sangster.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: sadie ()
Date: September 08, 2013 08:23PM

I remember a situation in my middle school (many years ago,not FCPS) in which the gym teacher suddenly resigned. Turned out he made advances on a student in the weight room after school hours. There were no arrests or anything public ever said. Maybe she didnt have enough evidence, maybe she was paid to keep quiet. Don't know..but we did find out about it several weeks after the incident.

Not saying that this is what happened here...just that it brings back memories.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 09, 2013 09:09AM

Anothersangsterparent Wrote:
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> Search "Kevin ricks" on the Washington post.
> Multiples school systems and just a little
> resignation each time.... Code of silence in the
> schools.
>
>
> I'm sure that's not the case here.... But to tell
> me this is none of my business, or I'm just
> looking for gossip, or let this be --- how dare
> you.
>
> This is my business and should be the business of
> every parent --- if its personal, fcps is going to
> have satisfy a little better than that.


Perhaps just knowing that he was going to have to put up with nosy gossips like you for another year finally got to him.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: SangsterMAD_DAD ()
Date: September 09, 2013 09:17AM

wow. my tax dollars and my kids. Xtchr and all these wonderful folks want to call us "nosy gossips"

You have got to be kidding me.

Our kids are in these guys care -- 5 to 12 years old --- and these teachers and administrators want us just to shut up, dont ask any questions, take your gruel and like it?

SHAME SHAME SHAME on this culture of be paid by the public, but not accountable to them. There's probably nothing for anyone to worry about here, but THIS CULTURE is how bad things happen to kids. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

If this guy has something personal he's dealing with -- fine, I don't care, and wish him well. But the public has a right to know more than they have been told.

Cute... notice this 3 hours before the PTA meeting. Plenty of time to talk about spirit week, no advance notice to anybody about this.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 09, 2013 09:22AM

SangsterMAD_DAD Wrote:
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> wow. my tax dollars and my kids. Xtchr and all
> these wonderful folks want to call us "nosy
> gossips"
>
> You have got to be kidding me.
>
> Our kids are in these guys care -- 5 to 12 years
> old --- and these teachers and administrators want
> us just to shut up, dont ask any questions, take
> your gruel and like it?
>
> SHAME SHAME SHAME on this culture of be paid by
> the public, but not accountable to them. There's
> probably nothing for anyone to worry about here,
> but THIS CULTURE is how bad things happen to kids.
> SHAME SHAME SHAME.
>
> If this guy has something personal he's dealing
> with -- fine, I don't care, and wish him well.
> But the public has a right to know more than they
> have been told.
>
> Cute... notice this 3 hours before the PTA
> meeting. Plenty of time to talk about spirit
> week, no advance notice to anybody about this.


He is gone for personal reasons, the kids are safe and healthy, and the school is fine. Anything else is just gory details for the gossip mill. Just exactly what more do you want to know?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: io ()
Date: September 09, 2013 09:56AM

SangsterMADDAD makes an excellent point.

"SHAME SHAME SHAME on this culture of be paid by
> the public, but not accountable to them. There's
> probably nothing for anyone to worry about here,
> but THIS CULTURE is how bad things happen to kids.
> SHAME SHAME SHAME."

WHAT educated person is going to deny that they have not heard of coverups in our society....Ummm lets see...Penn State...Sandusky...does this ring a bell for anyone???? How many years was that covered up before it was brought into the fire.

Our society lets this happen to children and if you think that the higher powers don't need to be accountable, than you are an idiot.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: HIPPA this ()
Date: September 09, 2013 01:18PM

The HIPPA laws and other privacy protection laws are the new racket for hiding from accountability. Jesse Jackson Jr., the mayor in San Diego - all of these guys disappear for 'personal' reasons and their defenders start throwing out privacy laws to protect them. Soon enough, they end up in prison.

How much privacy do the kids get? Being interrogated by administrators without parents present, the hearing officers star chambers - it's about time that the administrators get the same level of treatment as the kids.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Gordorski ()
Date: September 09, 2013 01:59PM

Has anyone considered the potential of some bowel related problem? The powers that be state his family supports him, and that she's praying for him. Perhaps the school lunch caused a disaster to his colon and if your bowels are behind such a decision to resign, do you want the public to know about your rear ends medical needs?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 09, 2013 02:19PM

io Wrote:
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> SangsterMADDAD makes an excellent point.
>
> "SHAME SHAME SHAME on this culture of be paid by
> > the public, but not accountable to them.
> There's
> > probably nothing for anyone to worry about
> here,
> > but THIS CULTURE is how bad things happen to
> kids.
> > SHAME SHAME SHAME."
>
> WHAT educated person is going to deny that they
> have not heard of coverups in our society....Ummm
> lets see...Penn State...Sandusky...does this ring
> a bell for anyone???? How many years was that
> covered up before it was brought into the fire.
>
> Our society lets this happen to children and if
> you think that the higher powers don't need to be
> accountable, than you are an idiot.


You have already been told it is a personal matter, the kids are all safe, and the school is fine. So it seems no matter what you are told, unless it involves something perverse, you will not believe it, so there is no point in even dealing with you. Penn State? Sandusky? That is really a reach.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: September 09, 2013 03:18PM

Sorry, but I refuse to accept as fact information from helicopter parents like yourself who don't know the difference between a cross walk and a parking space.







Anothersangsterparent Wrote:
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> Search "Kevin ricks" on the Washington post.
> Multiples school systems and just a little
> resignation each time.... Code of silence in the
> schools.
>
>
> I'm sure that's not the case here.... But to tell
> me this is none of my business, or I'm just
> looking for gossip, or let this be --- how dare
> you.
>
> This is my business and should be the business of
> every parent --- if its personal, fcps is going to
> have satisfy a little better than that.
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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: KatieFAIL ()
Date: September 09, 2013 03:44PM

katiesmith Wrote:
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> Sorry, but I refuse to accept as fact information
> from helicopter parents like yourself who don't
> know the difference between a cross walk and a
> parking space.

Hey, you dumb cunt. How stupid are you. That is on Pentagon row and the person is not stopped or parked.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: September 09, 2013 03:54PM

Let me guess your also one of those losers who can't tell the difference between a crosswalk and parking space. Just like you also don't know anything about what is going on at Sangster.


KatieFAIL Wrote:
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> katiesmith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sorry, but I refuse to accept as fact
> information
> > from helicopter parents like yourself who don't
> > know the difference between a cross walk and a
> > parking space.
>
> Hey, you dumb cunt. How stupid are you. That is
> on Pentagon row and the person is not stopped or
> parked.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: KatieFAIL ()
Date: September 09, 2013 03:57PM

katiesmith Wrote:
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> Let me guess your also one of those losers who
> can't tell the difference between a crosswalk and
> parking space. Just like you also don't know
> anything about what is going on at Sangster.

Sure I can and so can the DRIVER in the picture. That car is not parked. As for Sangster, the first I even knew this school existed was when this thread was created, so you are correct that I know nothing about what goes on at some shitty FFX public school.

Keep in mind that very few people here are as stupid as you are so you are going to have a difficult time convincing them of your bullshit.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: September 09, 2013 04:05PM

Do you also have a hard time telling the difference between a parking space and a cross walk? Or are you a loser who overcompensates with a gas guzzler? Or both?


KatieFAIL Wrote:
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> katiesmith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let me guess your also one of those losers who
> > can't tell the difference between a crosswalk
> and
> > parking space. Just like you also don't know
> > anything about what is going on at Sangster.
>
> Sure I can and so can the DRIVER in the picture.
> That car is not parked. As for Sangster, the
> first I even knew this school existed was when
> this thread was created, so you are correct that I
> know nothing about what goes on at some shitty FFX
> public school.
>
> Keep in mind that very few people here are as
> stupid as you are so you are going to have a
> difficult time convincing them of your bullshit.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: KatieFAIL ()
Date: September 09, 2013 04:21PM

katiesmith Wrote:
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> Do you also have a hard time telling the
> difference between a parking space and a cross
> walk?

No, and neither does the DRIVER in the picture. A parked car doesn't have a driver with hands on the wheel. You seem too stupid to understand that.

> Or are you a loser who overcompensates with
> a gas guzzler? Or both?

My vehicle gets in the mid 20s mpg. It is reasonable. The only one compensating or overcompensating here is you. Are you so imbalanced that you get so enraged over such minor issues? Your husband's cock must be tiny as all hell. Have you considered stepping out on him?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: September 09, 2013 04:27PM

KatieFAIL Wrote:
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> katiesmith Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you also have a hard time telling the
> > difference between a parking space and a cross
> > walk?
>
> No, and neither does the DRIVER in the picture. A
> parked car doesn't have a driver with hands on the
> wheel. You seem too stupid to understand that.
>
> > Or are you a loser who overcompensates with
> > a gas guzzler? Or both?
>
> My vehicle gets in the mid 20s mpg. It is
> reasonable. The only one compensating or
> overcompensating here is you. Are you so
> imbalanced that you get so enraged over such minor
> issues? Your husband's cock must be tiny as all
> hell. Have you considered stepping out on him?




Let the catfight begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 09, 2013 05:30PM

?????????????????

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: his education ()
Date: September 09, 2013 05:36PM

Chris Summers' Education
James Madison University BS, Education
1994 – 1999

His Linkedin profile shows only a bS degree. I thought principals needed a masters degree?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: anonymousNoDoginFight ()
Date: September 09, 2013 06:18PM

way to be on top of your 'research'

http://novaunderground.com/wiki/Christopher_L._Summers

Christopher L. "Chris" Summers is the former principal of Sangster Elementary School in Springfield.
Summers graduated from James Madison University in 1999 with a BS in Education. He later added a Masters in Education from George Mason University.
Summers formerly taught at Rachel S. Carson Middle School before becoming an assistant principal at Sangster and later at Kings Park Elementary School. Summers returned to Sangster as principal, and was nominated as outstanding first-year principal in 2012.
Summers abruptly resigned as principal of Sangster on September 5, 2013.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 09, 2013 06:53PM

So then he had to resign abruptly because he didn't know how to park his gas-guzzling SUV? Now it all FINALLY makes sense.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Harper Valley PTA much ()
Date: September 09, 2013 06:57PM

We moved to the Fairfax system and the Sangster catchment area on the strength of its profile. We are ready to move just about anywhere but here. What the scores don't tell you is that the parents are competitive, materialistic and exclusive snobs who breed competitive, materialistic and exclusive children. Parents with children who have trouble adapting to the unwelcoming environment are told their kids are the ones with the problems. They shunt them into useless "lunch bunch" support groups or recommend professional counseling rather than admit that perhaps they are not creating a welcoming environment. The kids, who were happy and well-adjusted before, are now miserable. Be aware if this if moving here.
posted by a parent on 12/17/11

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Adapt! ()
Date: September 09, 2013 08:20PM

Harper Valley PTA much Wrote:
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> We moved to the Fairfax system and the Sangster
> catchment area on the strength of its profile. We
> are ready to move just about anywhere but here.
> What the scores don't tell you is that the parents
> are competitive, materialistic and exclusive snobs
> who breed competitive, materialistic and exclusive
> children. Parents with children who have trouble
> adapting to the unwelcoming environment are told
> their kids are the ones with the problems. They
> shunt them into useless "lunch bunch" support
> groups or recommend professional counseling rather
> than admit that perhaps they are not creating a
> welcoming environment. The kids, who were happy
> and well-adjusted before, are now miserable. Be
> aware if this if moving here.
> posted by a parent on 12/17/11

Everyone's fault but yours, eh? Maybe you have bred a social plague who is incapable of the more elevated interaction expected in NOVA.

We had a kid move in to our kids' ES who was showed up his first day in full cammo - shirt, jacket, lunchbox. Must have come in from some flyover state. He adapted - looks and acts like every other kid around here now. It's not permanent unless you let it be.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: pta ()
Date: September 11, 2013 01:45PM

I went to PTA meeting, the Asst Superintendent says that it was for personal reasons. Nothing criminal involving children or anything that we'll read about in the papers.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: springfrield fred ()
Date: September 11, 2013 04:49PM

Does anyone know if the PTA or any other organization plan to have another meeting for parents on this? Seems like most people with kids in the school missed this meeting.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 11, 2013 05:24PM

springfrield fred Wrote:
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> Does anyone know if the PTA or any other
> organization plan to have another meeting for
> parents on this? Seems like most people with kids
> in the school missed this meeting.


Tough luck for them. How many times do you need to be told the same thing? Personal. None of your business.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Xtchrzero ()
Date: September 11, 2013 11:49PM

Xtchr. - What is your problem?

Where do you get off acting like this?

"None of your business". "Personal".

Is it really too much to expect our PUBLIC school system to at least talk to the parents of kids in the school?

Why does that bother you?

Resigning during the school year carries significant penalties... Which means there is enough cause to ask some questions. Frankly many people would have no questions if there were a little more transparency -- again in our PUBLIC school system.

I'm sorry if it bothers you that people have questions but telling people to go f--- themselves and shut up, truly isn't the best way to have a constructive dialogue here.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 12, 2013 08:53AM

Xtchrzero Wrote:
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> Xtchr. - What is your problem?
>
> Where do you get off acting like this?
>
> "None of your business". "Personal".
>
> Is it really too much to expect our PUBLIC school
> system to at least talk to the parents of kids in
> the school?
>
> Why does that bother you?
>
> Resigning during the school year carries
> significant penalties... Which means there is
> enough cause to ask some questions. Frankly
> many people would have no questions if there were
> a little more transparency -- again in our PUBLIC
> school system.
>
> I'm sorry if it bothers you that people have
> questions but telling people to go f--- themselves
> and shut up, truly isn't the best way to have a
> constructive dialogue here.


First of all, according to pta there was a meeting. Some didn't attend. Sorry. Second, seems like you need an update on the meaning of the word PERSONAL. It means pertaining to that person, not to you. Third, I did not tell people to go f___ themselves and shut up, and I would never do that. Don't put words in my mouth. What I said was none of your business. Wasn't then, isn't now, and never will be. The kids are safe, the school is fine. 'Nuff said.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: coneofsilence. ()
Date: September 12, 2013 10:48AM

"The kids are safe, the school is fine. 'Nuff said."

How ..

Do ..

We ..

Know?..

"None of your business"

Last i looked I pay for the FCPS. I trust my children to them.

How is this not our business?

I FUNDAMENTALLY DONT understand your viewpoint.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 12, 2013 11:04AM

coneofsilence. Wrote:
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> "The kids are safe, the school is fine. 'Nuff
> said."
>
> How ..
>
> Do ..
>
> We ..
>
> Know?..
>
> "None of your business"
>
> Last i looked I pay for the FCPS. I trust my
> children to them.
>
> How is this not our business?
>
> I FUNDAMENTALLY DONT understand your viewpoint.


And you never will. So sorry.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: give it time ()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:18PM

someone will spill the beans eventually.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Sigmund Fraud ()
Date: September 12, 2013 01:54PM

Beans have beenn spilled....nothing to see.

Move on.

Kids are fine...interim principal in place.

When you had a personal crisis, did everyone else whine about it and carry pitchforks? No, move on, grow up, read a book, do something nice for yourself...you HELICOPTER PARENTS with no lives of your own.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: people who know ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:14PM

give it time Wrote:
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> someone will spill the beans eventually.


I am sure there are some happy gentlemen at Burke Lake Park that have some details.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: stop asking questions ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:18PM

Longtime elementary teacher held on child porn charges
Thursday - 9/12/2013, 1:14pm ET

Police are asking the public for information about Ralph Watts Conrad III, a longtime art teacher in Loudoun County who was arrested on child pornography charges. (Courtesy Loudoun County Sheriff's office)WASHINGTON -- A 15-year veteran of Loudoun County schools was arrested on multiple child pornography charges on Tuesday and authorities are asking the public for further information.

Ralph Watts Conrad III, 43, of Hamilton, Va., is an art teacher at Algonkian Elementary School where he is currently on administrative leave, the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says in a news release.

During his career in Loudoun County, Conrad taught in at least six elementary schools and for the past several years worked as an itinerant teacher, holding classes at the following schools:


•Belmont Station Elementary
•Lowe's Island Elementary
•Frances Hazel Reid
•Legacy Elementary
•Mill Run Elementary
•Creighton's Corner Elementary
Conrad was charged with one count of distribution of child pornography and two counts of possession.

The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says the investigation remains open and additional charges are possible. To date, there appears to be no Loudoun County Public Schools children involved. However, investigators are asking the public to report any suspicious contact or relationships they may have noticed with Conrad.

Anyone with information is asked to call 703-777-0475.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: nothing to worry about ()
Date: September 12, 2013 02:22PM

D.C. pediatrician pleads guilty to child porn charge
Thursday - 9/12/2013, 2:01pm ET
WASHINGTON - A D.C. pediatrician who has practiced for decades in the District has pleaded guilty to to a single charge of possession of child pornography.

Dr. Robert P. Dickey, 74, pleaded guilty in federal court Thursday. A sentencing hearing is set for Dec. 17. He faces up to 10 years in prison, a $250,000 fine and will be required to register as a sex offender for 15 years after he is released from prison, according to the U.S. Attorney's office.

"Dr. Dickey was entrusted to care for the well-being of children, but he instead chose to collect images of their sexual exploitation," said U.S. Attorney Ronald Machen Jr. in a statement. "Victims of child pornography are harmed when images of their abuse are swapped over the Internet for years, haunting the victims long after their initial abuse."

Investigators served a search warrant at Dickey's office, which is inside his home, in May and recovered more than 130 images of child pornography from hard drives. Police were sent to the home based on a tip from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children that Dickey had uploaded 14 images of child pornography.

When police entered his home, Dickey was viewing child pornography on a website. Dickey admitted to visiting porn sites and downloading child pornographic images as officers were searching his office, according to court documents.

Officials said at the time of his May arrest that there was no indication the images on his computer were of his patients.

He was initially charged with one count of receiving child pornography in addition to the possession charge

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: xtchr ()
Date: September 12, 2013 04:26PM

stop asking questions Wrote:
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> Longtime elementary teacher held on child porn
> charges
> Thursday - 9/12/2013, 1:14pm ET
>
> Police are asking the public for information
> about Ralph Watts Conrad III, a longtime art
> teacher in Loudoun County who was arrested on
> child pornography charges. (Courtesy Loudoun
> County Sheriff's office)WASHINGTON -- A 15-year
> veteran of Loudoun County schools was arrested on
> multiple child pornography charges on Tuesday and
> authorities are asking the public for further
> information.
>
> Ralph Watts Conrad III, 43, of Hamilton, Va., is
> an art teacher at Algonkian Elementary School
> where he is currently on administrative leave, the
> Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says in a news
> release.
>
> During his career in Loudoun County, Conrad taught
> in at least six elementary schools and for the
> past several years worked as an itinerant teacher,
> holding classes at the following schools:
>
>
> •Belmont Station Elementary
> •Lowe's Island Elementary
> •Frances Hazel Reid
> •Legacy Elementary
> •Mill Run Elementary
> •Creighton's Corner Elementary
> Conrad was charged with one count of distribution
> of child pornography and two counts of possession.
>
>
> The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office says the
> investigation remains open and additional charges
> are possible. To date, there appears to be no
> Loudoun County Public Schools children involved.
> However, investigators are asking the public to
> report any suspicious contact or relationships
> they may have noticed with Conrad.
>
> Anyone with information is asked to call
> 703-777-0475.


I guess your point is that investigators are asking the public for information. Is any of that happening at Sangster? No. Kids are safe. Thank you for making this point.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: native 1960 ()
Date: September 13, 2013 09:48AM

FCPS did a search of his office and found a Holly Bible in his desk.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: I will talk slowly for you ()
Date: September 13, 2013 10:29AM

I guess your point is that investigators are asking the public for information. Is any of that happening at Sangster? No. Kids are safe. Thank you for making this point.


The point is that nobody can be trusted around kids. Parents should always be on guard.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Mickey ()
Date: September 13, 2013 11:35AM

native 1960 Wrote:
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> FCPS did a search of his office and found a Holly
> Bible in his desk.


I have heard of Holly Bible. Isn't she a porn star? Now it makes sense why he resigned.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: AKA ()
Date: September 13, 2013 02:46PM

Sorry but I know of many people who work for FCPS in many different positions that have businessses. For many the business is the main income creating enterprise. I doubt that FCPS has to approve any of that.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: AKA ()
Date: September 13, 2013 02:58PM

It does sound like he was fired. They put you on Administrative leave between the letter from your supervisor and the letter from HR. He probably resigned during that time period. I have no idea why. There are lots of reasons that it could have happened including something like he yelled at an employee or he was in a position that the Saat. Superintendent wanted for someone else. FCPS is not a place to work for anyone other than robots.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Respectful speech ()
Date: September 22, 2013 03:05PM

First, my understanding is that this site is a place to share information. I am disappointed by the disrespectful way in which some people are doing that. How can we expect to teach our children to treat each other with respect if we do not do the same?

Second, the Sangster staff is a very caring, supportive family, and that carries over to how the students are treated as well. Despite the situation with the principal, the school year has started off smoothly. (Overcrowded buses are not new this year and are a result of an increase in population.) The two assistant principals have done a fabulous job, the kids are safe, and teachers are hard at work doing their job, just like every year.

And just so you know, this is not some county "party line"; I speak from a decade of personal experience.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Jay John ()
Date: September 22, 2013 03:18PM

"teachers are hard at work doing their job, just like every year."

are you sure you are in Fairfax???

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Why the pessimism? ()
Date: September 22, 2013 08:26PM

As a native of Northern Virginia and a graduate of FCPS, in addition to my current experience, yes, I know exactly where I am and of what I speak...at least as far as Sangster is concerned.

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: Skyfalltwo ()
Date: September 26, 2013 11:29AM

So...let's talk about a little bit about the self-righteous, I am better than you parents that I see everyday at SangsterES and their "need" to know excuse to create gossip and conflicts.

Haven't you realized yet that you are just a bunch of specks on the universe...that you are dust and to dust you shall return. You could not start to imagine how insignificant you are in this world. You come to this area searching for the "best" school because God forbid your offsprings can only attend the best of the best of the best.

So the Principal resigned...it happens...shit happens...haven't you ever tasted it? Haven't you ever find yourself in trouble, in a whole load shit of trouble...haven't you ever suffer from a disease, pain, grief. Haven't you ever make a decision when it comes to last resource and moved on? Asking only for a little bit of privacy...so that the "paparazzi" low life of parents don't make a field day of your troubles? Well, I guess you haven't...lets just hope that doesn't ever happen to you, but wait...on the other hand lets..seat and wait and hope that it does happen to you...just so that we can seat back a see your face...and then smile at your troubles.

Why don't you, for once in your life, learn to respect...yeah...RESPECT...other people's life and choices...when are you, for heaven's sake, going to learn! Stop with the gossiping and live your own life the best that you can...start creating something, go get a job...be a volunteer...go back to school and get a degree in something...fill the empty spaces of your life with something meaningful...teach your children to be respectful, obedient, nice, honest...stop teaching them how to cheat and be a liar, stop teaching them to be bullies and to stop looking down at others. Just because there is an AAP program in the school, doesn't mean your offspring if good for it..some of us are born with gifts others not so much...you need to realize that and move on...if your kid is really smart he/she is going to show it in many different ways and everyone will know it before you get to open your mouth to tell everyone. Just because your kid is in the AAP doesn't mean that she/he is going to be a better person, an honest person, a hardworking person...because they learn that from you...the one who decided to bring them into this world and if you have a poor way to teach them...believe you me...they are going to learn it well...from you.

Why don't you start by adhering to the laws and regulations set forth for the same people that you selected to rule this county, this country. Start parking in the right place in the right way, stop parking on fire lanes, on handicap spaces, behind the dumpster so that you can run and get your offspring because your time is more precious than everyone else in this God forsaking planet of ours...start using your turn signals, stop running red lights and stop signs (you are going to kill someone one of these days). Stop been late for heaven's sake and expecting everyone else to stop for you because you are more important. Stop making illegal u-turns in illegal places...follow the line in an orderly fashion...the world is not going to end because you can't deal with traffic; however some times I wish it did.

I am not done...but lets just stop for now...I have more to say...but that will be later....

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: More Info ()
Date: February 21, 2014 07:25AM

Former Loudoun Teacher Indicted On 50 Counts Of Child Pornography
http://www.leesburgtoday.com/news/former-loudoun-teacher-indicted-on-counts-of-child-pornography/article_8c550b1e-99a3-11e3-bf06-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=story

The former Algonkian Elementary School art teacher arrested in September on child pornography charges has been indicted by a grand jury on 50 counts of possession of child pornography.

He is scheduled to enter a plea in the matter at 9 a.m. Friday, April 11.

Ralph Watts Conrad III, 43, from Hamilton, was arrested at his home Sept. 10. He was initially charged with one count of distribution of child pornography and two counts of possession of child pornography.

Prior to his arrest, Conrad had been employed by Loudoun County Public Schools for 15 years. His last position was as an art teacher at Algonkian Elementary School. He also has worked as an itinerant teacher at six other schools during his 15-year career. For this school year, he was assigned to Creighton’s Corner Elementary School, but had only been there one day at the time of his arrest.

After his arrest, Conrad was placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the legal proceedings.

The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office was informed by the Department of Homeland Security about Conrad’s alleged activities Aug. 20 and immediately launched a local probe. During the three-week investigation, Conrad was placed under surveillance as investigators worked “to build a case to get probable cause to get a warrant and seize” computers and other equipment from his home, Maj. Richard Fiano, the head of the sheriff’s office’s criminal investigations division, told Algonkian parents during a meeting Sept. 13.

The day before his arrest a search warrant was issued for Conrad’s Hamilton home and at 6 a.m. Sept. 10 investigators executed the warrant before he left for school. Several items were seized and a mobile unit from the Internet Crimes Against Children task force conducted initial forensic analysis. What investigators found was enough to place Conrad under arrest at his home.
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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: I care ()
Date: April 02, 2014 02:00PM

Hi- does anyone really know the truth behind Chris leaving from sangster? I used to work with him a long long time ago. I just read about him on the Internet and am concerned. Does anyone know if be is ok?

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Re: Sangster ES Principal
Posted by: 74KFc ()
Date: April 03, 2014 03:35PM

liar. counties all over incl. loudoun and fairfax

sue their own employee knowing the employee will with. fuck around spend shitloads on the case and loose. they award like $175,000 to the employee (they'll get some kickback likely already did) and rehire the same asian

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i have the news clipping. the county is run by criminals

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Former Loudoun teacher pleads guilty to scores of child porn charges
Posted by: Former Loudoun teacher pleads gu ()
Date: April 11, 2014 06:32PM

Former Loudoun teacher pleads guilty to scores of child porn charges
http://www.insidenova.com/news/loudoun/former-loudoun-teacher-pleads-guilty-to-scores-of-child-porn/article_501cee1a-9e06-52e5-9c29-d5bddb733688.html

The former elementary school art teacher charged with 50 counts of possession of child pornography pleaded guilty in Loudoun Circuit Court Friday. He faces sentencing July 25.

Ralph Watts Conrad III, 43, of Hamilton, appeared before Judge Stephen Sincavage Friday and pleaded guilty to 50 counts of possession of sexually explicit visual materials. Each count carries a maximum sentence of one to five years in prison. As a result of his plea, Conrad’s bond was revoked and he was taken into the custody of the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office. In addition, a psychiatric evaluation was ordered to be completed before sentencing.

According to the proffer of facts presented by the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office in connection with the plea agreement in the case, in August 2013 the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by an agent from Homeland Security Investigations Immigration and Customs Enforcement who said she had a suspect from Loudoun. The agent had been working an “image source” website with a URL from Russia, that used American flags to identify IP addresses from users in the United States. The federal government had launched a national investigation, Operation Protego, to target U.S. residents who used “imaged sources” as a means to “receive, distribute, advertise, possess, and/or access with the intent to view” child pornography.

Account logs showed a user who registered in 2011, later identified to be Conrad, had been accessing the site through May 15, 2013, had created albums of images, commented on other albums and posted content to a blog containing his user name.

In June, the investigation led to Conrad’s identification, and sealed federal warrants for his email addresses uncovered correspondence about and containing child pornography. In September a warrant was issued for Conrad’s Hamilton area home, and computer forensics agents from the Department of Homeland Security discovered pornographic images and videos on his home laptop. Conrad was arrested that day. Further investigation uncovered more than 500 videos and 2,700 images of child pornography, according to the commonwealth’s proffer of evidence.

Prior to his arrest, Conrad had been employed by Loudoun County Public Schools for 15 years. His last position was as an art teacher at Algonkian Elementary School. He also has worked as an itinerant teacher at six other schools during his 15-year career. For this school year, he was assigned to Creighton’s Corner Elementary School, but had only been there one day at the time of his arrest.

Also found during the September 2013 search of his home, according to the commonwealth's proffer of evidence was "a letter of discipline stating he had been suspended from his job as a teacher for having inappropriate sexual conversation with a middle school student."

It is unclear if that suspension is related to the six-month suspension Conrad faced two school years ago, which was brought up by Algonkian Elementary School parents during a meeting after Conrad's arrest. Responding to parents' inquiries at that meeting, Superintendent Edgar B. Hatrick said Conrad was put on leave for an investigation, but that it was not related to the current charges and did not involve criminal activity. “We did not think there was any risk to the students,” he said at the time.

Loudoun County Public Schools spokesperson Wayde Byard said the school system could not comment on the matter since it is part of a personnel record.

Conrad will face final sentencing at 4 p.m. Friday, July 25.

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