Are the George Mason Sig Eps (Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity) Really a Cover for the Skull and Crossbones Group?

Insignia is strangely VERY similar to the skull and crossbones templar nights.
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Skull and Bones is an elite group, they would never admit a bunch of yokels from George Mason, given that the County is a joke overrun by SUV driving soccer moms, dads working at do-nothing bureaucratic jobs and politicians fighting over astroturf and trolley cars.

not happening no way no how Wrote:
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> Skull and Bones is an elite group, they would
> never admit a bunch of yokels from George Mason,
> given that the County is a joke overrun by SUV
> driving soccer moms, dads working at do-nothing
> bureaucratic jobs and politicians fighting over
> astroturf and trolley cars.


This. Skull and Bones = presidents, ambassadors, captains of industry. Sig Eps = not.

Difference between vintage champagne and Boone's Farm.

Kimmy S Wrote:
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> Are the George Mason Sig Eps (Sigma Phi Epsilon
> Fraternity) Really a Cover for the Skull and
> Crossbones Group?

Unlikely.

Skull and Bones is for upper-crust Yalies, and you can only join when you're a senior and invited.

Sigma Phi Epsilon was founded in Richmond after its founder couldn't cut the mustard at Rutgers and the frat he joined there (Chi Phi) told him they weren't interested in forming a chapter at such a small college as Richmond then was. Most of its initial members were guys who couldn't pledge another frat because they were preachy bumpkins.

he Order is a world unto itself in which he will have a new name and fourteen new blood brothers, also with new names." When Rosenbaum starts to enquire about The Order he is told: "They don't like people tampering and prying. The power of Bones is incredible. They've got their hands on every lever of power in the country. You'll see - it's like trying to look into the Mafia. Remember, they're secret society too."

The Washington Post broached the subject on 25th February 2000 - 'Shred This After Reading!' Lloyd Grove called the article: "Before George W. Bush was a good ol' boy, he was a member of Skull and Bones. Author Ron Rosenbaum calls this club "the most powerful of all secret societies in the strange Yale secret-society system." Its roster includes Averell Harriman, Henry Stimson, Henry Luce, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Dubya's dad, former president George Bush.

They all engaged in "certain occult rituals of the ruling class," as Rosenbaum writes, in a windowless mausoleum on Yale's New Haven, Conn., campus." "Although the club dates back to the mid-19th century, Hollywood has just discovered it. "The Skulls," written and produced by D.C. native and Yale grad John Pogue, premieres next month. The movie portrays a sinister conspiracy, a la John Grisham's "The Firm," in which sons of the power elite have their flesh branded with a skull and crossbones, and keep the society's secrets on pain of death.

This thread reminds me of a really bad movie.

Enrico Palazzo Wrote:
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> This thread reminds me of a really bad movie.
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He said bad movie, asshole...

A lot of the rituals are the same but Skull and Bones is Yale.

It's a not so good cover for a bunch of jerk-offs and frat-fags.

Like most things, the truth is far more boring and milquetoast than the fictional crap that no life losers love to fantasize about.

Even the Mafia isn't/wasn't as exciting and villanous as what most people think.

The real Skulls is shrouded in mystery and yeah these kinds of people share certain secret stock tips before market crashes, share insider deals and in general help each other to become richer, but in no way are they that powerful in the big scheme of things.

Now the Free Masons or that other group of people who everyone is afraid to mention...they have some pull.

Sigma Phi Epsilon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Phi_Epsilon

Rocco Wrote:
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> Now the Free Masons or that other group of people
> who everyone is afraid to mention...they have some
> pull.

*Laugh*

Free Masons are a bunch of old geezers that dress up in costumes. Most of the Free Mason members are gay from what I've heard. Free Masons are on the same level as your local Moose, Lions or Fez(The guys with the little cars) groups.

Sherlock Bones Wrote:
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> Rocco Wrote:
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> > Now the Free Masons or that other group of
> people
> > who everyone is afraid to mention...they have
> some
> > pull.
>
> *Laugh*
>
> Free Masons are a bunch of old geezers that dress
> up in costumes. Most of the Free Mason members
> are gay from what I've heard. Free Masons are on
> the same level as your local Moose, Lions or
> Fez(The guys with the little cars) groups.


The guys with the little cars are Shriners who are associated with the Freemasons. In order to be a Shriner, you must be a Freemason.

I have heard a lot of stories about fraternity brothers sharing information on inside deals and helping each other out in business.

A lot of fraternities keep list of services\companies brothers own. It's expected that brothers will cut each other a break in return for business.

Fraternities also will have their own insurance and lawyers available to brothers at little no cost.

Think of a fraternity as a "Yuppie\business biker gang."

Sherlock Bones Wrote:
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> I have heard a lot of stories about fraternity
> brothers sharing information on inside deals and
> helping each other out in business.
>
> A lot of fraternities keep list of
> services\companies brothers own. It's expected
> that brothers will cut each other a break in
> return for business.
>
> Fraternities also will have their own insurance
> and lawyers available to brothers at little no
> cost.
>
> Think of a fraternity as a "Yuppie\business biker
> gang."


Which fraternity is that?

One of the underground Mason Sig Ep boards for exchanging information.

http://vamuavc55.ning.com/page/aumni-pro-exchange

No SIG-EP was a recognized fraternity at GMU until the school cracked down on partys, under age drinking, hazing and kicked the chapter off campus. Actually they were pretty popular at one time but being forced inactive they ahave gone underground - now have a ton of geeks in their un-official chapter who wouldnt have even received bids had they rushed a decade earlier.

The skull and bones are a totally separate entity. The closest fraternity to them would be Phi Kappa Sigma (Skulls) - who ironically are also at GMU

Rocco Wrote:
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> Like most things, the truth is far more boring and
> milquetoast than the fictional crap that no life
> losers love to fantasize about.
>
> Even the Mafia isn't/wasn't as exciting and
> villanous as what most people think.
>
> The real Skulls is shrouded in mystery and yeah
> these kinds of people share certain secret stock
> tips before market crashes, share insider deals
> and in general help each other to become richer,
> but in no way are they that powerful in the big
> scheme of things.
>
> Now the Free Masons or that other group of people
> who everyone is afraid to mention...they have some
> pull.

I wouldn't be so quick on denying the power thing. Fraternity brothers everywhere are notoriously close and true to one another. They don't snitch, and often will put themselves at some level of risk. They consider themselves as brothers. And when it comes to helping each other gain finances, money IS power. When you have that many people at the top elite from one frat that exists at only one school, one can't help but wonder

not happening no way no how Wrote:
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> Skull and Bones is an elite group, they would
> never admit a bunch of yokels from George Mason,
> given that the County is a joke overrun by SUV
> driving soccer moms, dads working at do-nothing
> bureaucratic jobs and politicians fighting over
> astroturf and trolley cars.

I work at mason, this is a spot on assessment.

Ha yokels? Northern Virginia has one of the highest education and income rates in the country. Who the F do you think you are?

Written like a true TKE, KE or some other loser

not happening no way no how Wrote:
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> Skull and Bones is an elite group, they would
> never admit a bunch of yokels from George Mason,
> given that the County is a joke overrun by SUV
> driving soccer moms, dads working at do-nothing
> bureaucratic jobs and politicians fighting over
> astroturf and trolley cars.

+1

Skull and Bones at Georgetown, yes, at GMU, no way.

College fraternities (and probably sororities as well) are just another thing that the seriously weak-minded convince themselves to be afraid of. The mindless yet palpable fear and trepidation just becomes laughable after a while.

Skull and Bones = entitled fucks like the Bushes. You know nothing about SigEp or fraternities in general

Initially the fraternity was known as the spe's and which became too close to "spenis" and started an initiative to change it to sig ep.

There are a lot Sigma Phi Epsilon symbols that use the Skull and Crossbones. However the Skull and Crossbones are new be used outside of the main symbol.

The skull and bones represent a penalty.