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How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: R4z3r ()
Date: July 13, 2013 08:59PM

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone who has a radar detector could shed some light on how strict Fairfax police are in regards to radar detectors?

To share some background I have an Escort Redline and am interested in running it throughout Virginia including . I am interested in using a blendmount (example of what this look like can be seen at http://www.blendmount.com/media-bbe.html or attached). I was wondering how strict are Fairfax county officers are with visual detection of radar detectors?

Thanks guys!
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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: July 13, 2013 09:06PM

1.) You have to worry about State Police, who show no leniency.


2.) By the time the detector goes off, the police have already clocked you.


3.) Useless against LiDar.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: July 13, 2013 10:39PM

They are very strict. You will get a ticket and the judge will slam you in court. In some parts of Virginia they will still seize it from you and you may not get it back if convicted in court. Fairfax used to seize them but I have been told by an officer that the local judges have told the department to stop taking them. Not sure if this is true of not.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: nmYn6 ()
Date: July 13, 2013 10:48PM

You'll never get away with that.

I've run one for many years but it's very well hidden and not detectable.

Yep, State and Laser are the major concerns.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Radar Love ()
Date: July 13, 2013 10:50PM

Doesn't matter. It's a STATE law, jackass.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: James ()
Date: July 13, 2013 11:32PM

What a stupid question. If they find you using one you will be ticketed, the device confiscated, and your ass could your your license.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Mikeymike ()
Date: July 13, 2013 11:52PM

Someone on another board said $100 fine, first offense and no confiscate. Would look up the letter of the law before I bought one and assume that you will get caught using it.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Car boy ()
Date: July 13, 2013 11:52PM

Why bother with a cheap, poorly concealed device?

Please tell us you are putting down 500hp@ the wheels to even justify it.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Reality ()
Date: July 14, 2013 12:01AM

Why would Fairfax give a damn? It's a state law. And the VSP care quite a lot.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: 451 rwhp ()
Date: July 14, 2013 12:29AM

Do not use that mount, use a visor one as shown below, or put it right above your RVM. Do you have laser jammers? If not your RD is useless, don't even bother using it in Fairfax, quite a bit of lidar around here.

2ytnog8.jpg


Fairfax county cops don't seem to really care that much for RDs, my first cobra many years ago I had mounted openly and never had an issue. The only ones to watch out for are VSP, they use spectre 5s to look for radar detectors. Since you have a Redline this wont be a problem. I have heard they will hit you with Instant on from the rear to see if you slam your brakes, never had it happen to me. If you are ever pulled over, just say no to any searches, and what can they do? Get the dogs?

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: July 14, 2013 01:18AM

Radar Love Wrote:
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> Doesn't matter. It's a STATE law, jackass.


Are you saying the local cops don't enforce state laws?

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Alexander Smith ()
Date: July 14, 2013 09:39AM

I've ran a Cobra for many years openly and never got pulled over for it,
but not being the best detector in the industry, been pulled over for speeding when it failed to alert me.

Just push the silence button if you ever get pulled over so it doesn't make any additional noise.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: who cares ()
Date: July 14, 2013 12:17PM

detectors are worthless. if they go off, the cop already has your speed. the days of cops putting a radar on the dash with a rubber band over the trigger are long gone. new radar and lidars are small and lightweight so the cop doesnt get tired of holding it like back in the day. radar is also not used very often, and when it is, its done on roads with very little traffic. lidar is what every cop uses now. if they catch you with a radar detector, you will get a ticket, and possibly have it taken from you as evidence which they can do. then when your court case is over, it will be detroyed upon conviction. ffx cops will ticket you in a heartbeat for it, dont just think vsp will be the only cops who care if you have one. by the way, those jammers dont work on the new lidars out there, so if your dumb enough to buy one your wasting your money. point being, if you speed, a detector is not going to warn you in time because once you see the cop, they already have your speed. dont go to fast, and you wont get a ticket.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: R4z3r ()
Date: July 14, 2013 01:09PM

I guess I should state:

1.) I know that it is a $40 fine with $61 in court fees should I get caught with it. This is a state law and court fees vary throughout, though it almost always is around $100 after it is all said and done. They are not allowed legally to confiscate the device and instead take it to the car, write the serial number/make/model and will return it. It is pre-payable as well, so no need to go to court and no points. If they do confiscate it, you can charge them for theft.

2.) I didn't ask if you thought radar detectors work or do not work. That is not at all helpful to any of us what each of us think. I can say that a redline has alerted me to VA police presence before up to 2 miles prior to having them be seen. I would say this is something that works.

3.) I am not getting one so I can speed, and honestly I don't need to speed to enjoy myself on the road. I am getting one because I feel it makes me more situationally aware and is a constant reminder that the police are always checking in, thus reminding me NOT to speed.

4.) To the person who said 500hp, sorry, more like 420hp on 92 octane.

5.) To the individuals calling the redline cheap, it's a $500 device that in tests is Spectre V (radar detector detector) immune even when the radar detector is touching the Spectre.

6.) Why is everyone acting so mean? It's an honest question. I didn't need to have everyone treating each other poorly and insulting me. Everyone is entitled to their own action, choices and opinions. Please be more respectful.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/14/2013 01:11PM by R4z3r.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: r3z4R ()
Date: July 14, 2013 01:11PM

Honest question?? It's a moronic question. What's to respect about that??

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: R4z3r ()
Date: July 14, 2013 01:27PM

you don't have to like it for it to be honest.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Fair is fair ()
Date: July 14, 2013 01:49PM

R4z3r Wrote:
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>
> 3.) I am not getting one so I can speed, and
> honestly I don't need to speed to enjoy myself on
> the road. I am getting one because I feel it makes
> me more situationally aware and is a constant
> reminder that the police are always checking in,
> thus reminding me NOT to speed.
>

Some people have a distorted view of how and where radar detectors are most useful (not necessarily you).

Rather than for hauling ass down the highway, by far where they've saved me the most over the years is in the case of speed traps on lower speed roads which are set up there purposely because of some aspect of the road (big speed limit drop, hill, etc.) which works well for revenue generation. Particularly where you're not a local and not aware that they set up there all the time. Helps level the playing field in such cases.

If you're out blasting down the highway at 80+ alone and relying on that to save you, then you get what you deserve. In that case having a "rabbit" out in front of you is a lot more useful than the detector.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: legit guy ()
Date: July 14, 2013 03:29PM

Fair is fair Wrote:
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> R4z3r Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > 3.) I am not getting one so I can speed, and
> > honestly I don't need to speed to enjoy myself
> on
> > the road. I am getting one because I feel it
> makes
> > me more situationally aware and is a constant
> > reminder that the police are always checking
> in,
> > thus reminding me NOT to speed.
> >
>
> Some people have a distorted view of how and where
> radar detectors are most useful (not necessarily
> you).
>
> Rather than for hauling ass down the highway, by
> far where they've saved me the most over the years
> is in the case of speed traps on lower speed roads
> which are set up there purposely because of some
> aspect of the road (big speed limit drop, hill,
> etc.) which works well for revenue generation.
> Particularly where you're not a local and not
> aware that they set up there all the time. Helps
> level the playing field in such cases.
>
> If you're out blasting down the highway at 80+
> alone and relying on that to save you, then you
> get what you deserve. In that case having a
> "rabbit" out in front of you is a lot more useful
> than the detector.


Or one day when you grow up and realize that it is stupid and immature to drive more than 5mph over the speed limit and you just dont give a fuck about childish toys like radar detectors anymore. But some boys never grow up to be men.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Stealth Mode ()
Date: July 14, 2013 04:24PM

Coolest way to hide one! Going to look into this for my car. And yes, there is a local installer here in FFX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGtNoix7nQ


http://www.midcityengineering.com/radar-interfaces/passport-escort-interfaces

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: JustanFYI ()
Date: July 14, 2013 06:54PM

Where in Fairfax County public roads can you actually use 420HP with traffic and construction as bad as it is? Worthless. Around here, all that matters is how comfortable your seat is since you're going to be sitting in traffic all damn day.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Fair is fair ()
Date: July 14, 2013 07:56PM

legit guy Wrote:
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> Fair is fair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > R4z3r Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > 3.) I am not getting one so I can speed, and
> > > honestly I don't need to speed to enjoy
> myself
> > on
> > > the road. I am getting one because I feel it
> > makes
> > > me more situationally aware and is a constant
> > > reminder that the police are always checking
> > in,
> > > thus reminding me NOT to speed.
> > >
> >
> > Some people have a distorted view of how and
> where
> > radar detectors are most useful (not
> necessarily
> > you).
> >
> > Rather than for hauling ass down the highway,
> by
> > far where they've saved me the most over the
> years
> > is in the case of speed traps on lower speed
> roads
> > which are set up there purposely because of
> some
> > aspect of the road (big speed limit drop, hill,
> > etc.) which works well for revenue generation.
> > Particularly where you're not a local and not
> > aware that they set up there all the time.
> Helps
> > level the playing field in such cases.
> >
> > If you're out blasting down the highway at 80+
> > alone and relying on that to save you, then you
> > get what you deserve. In that case having a
> > "rabbit" out in front of you is a lot more
> useful
> > than the detector.
>
>
> Or one day when you grow up and realize that it is
> stupid and immature to drive more than 5mph over
> the speed limit and you just dont give a fuck
> about childish toys like radar detectors anymore.
> But some boys never grow up to be men.


Thanks Mom. I'll keep that in mind.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: R4z3r ()
Date: July 14, 2013 08:07PM

JustanFYI Wrote:
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> Where in Fairfax County public roads can you
> actually use 420HP with traffic and construction
> as bad as it is? Worthless. Around here, all
> that matters is how comfortable your seat is since
> you're going to be sitting in traffic all damn
> day.


I don't specifically live in Fairfax. Just end up over there a few times a month to see friends and whatnot. I also end up going on the interstates a lot for work traveling in and out of state.

Yes, I do also know that 80+ mph in VA is an instant reckless driving ticket. To the person who said it's immature to go anything more than 5 mph over, I'd LOVE to see you drive on the beltway where most are going 65 MPH in a 55 MPH. Even at 5 MPH over, EVERYONE will be passing you. Is it really safer to be the only disruption to the flow of traffic or is it safer to go with the flow of traffic?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/14/2013 08:10PM by R4z3r.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: JustanFYI ()
Date: July 14, 2013 08:50PM

R4z3r Wrote:
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> JustanFYI Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where in Fairfax County public roads can you
> > actually use 420HP with traffic and
> construction
> > as bad as it is? Worthless. Around here, all
> > that matters is how comfortable your seat is
> since
> > you're going to be sitting in traffic all damn
> > day.
>
>
> I don't specifically live in Fairfax. Just end up
> over there a few times a month to see friends and
> whatnot. I also end up going on the interstates a
> lot for work traveling in and out of state.
>
> Yes, I do also know that 80+ mph in VA is an
> instant reckless driving ticket. To the person who
> said it's immature to go anything more than 5 mph
> over, I'd LOVE to see you drive on the beltway
> where most are going 65 MPH in a 55 MPH. Even at 5
> MPH over, EVERYONE will be passing you. Is it
> really safer to be the only disruption to the flow
> of traffic or is it safer to go with the flow of
> traffic?


FWIW, I actually go 5-9mph over the speedlimit at most. Yes, I'm that guy who maintains anything between 55-64 on the beltway. Accident free and ticket free for 15 years.

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Law Man Bob ()
Date: July 14, 2013 11:03PM

Source: Code of Virginia, Title 46, Chapter 10, 46.2-1079


§ 46.2-1079. Radar detectors; demerit points not to be awarded.

A. It shall be unlawful for any person to operate a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth when such vehicle is equipped with any device or mechanism, passive or active, to detect or purposefully interfere with or diminish the measurement capabilities of any radar, laser, or other device or mechanism employed by law-enforcement personnel to measure the speed of motor vehicles on the highways of the Commonwealth for law-enforcement purposes. It shall be unlawful to use any such device or mechanism on any such motor vehicle on the highways. It shall be unlawful to sell any such device or mechanism in the Commonwealth. However, provisions of this section shall not apply to any receiver of radio waves utilized for lawful purposes to receive any signal from a frequency lawfully licensed by any state or federal agency.

This section shall not be construed to authorize the forfeiture to the Commonwealth of any such device or mechanism. Any such device or mechanism may be taken by the arresting officer if needed as evidence, and, when no longer needed, shall be returned to the person charged with a violation of this section, or at that person's request, and his expense, mailed to an address specified by him. Any unclaimed devices may be destroyed on court order after six months have elapsed from the final date for filing an appeal.

Except as provided in subsection B of this section, the presence of any such prohibited device or mechanism in or on a motor vehicle on the highways of the Commonwealth shall constitute prima facie evidence of the violation of this section. The Commonwealth need not prove that the device or mechanism in question was in an operative condition or being operated.

B. A person shall not be guilty of a violation of this section when the device or mechanism in question, at the time of the alleged offense, had no power source and was not readily accessible for use by the driver or any passenger in the vehicle.

C. This section shall not apply to motor vehicles owned by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof and used by law-enforcement officers in their official duties, nor to the sale of any such device or mechanism to law-enforcement agencies for use in their official duties.

D. No demerit points shall be awarded by the Commissioner for violations of this section. Any demerit points awarded by the Commissioner prior to July 1, 1992, for any violation of this section shall be rescinded and the driving record of any person awarded demerit points for a violation of this section shall be amended to reflect such rescission.

(1962, c. 125, § 46.1-198.1; 1975, c. 108; 1976, c. 90; 1978, cc. 87, 91; 1981, c. 303; 1989, c. 727; 1992, c. 825; 1998, c. 300.)

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Re: How strict is Fairfax about Radar Detectors?
Posted by: Mikeymike ()
Date: July 16, 2013 12:17AM

legit guy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fair is fair Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > R4z3r Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > 3.) I am not getting one so I can speed, and
> > > honestly I don't need to speed to enjoy
> myself
> > on
> > > the road. I am getting one because I feel it
> > makes
> > > me more situationally aware and is a constant
> > > reminder that the police are always checking
> > in,
> > > thus reminding me NOT to speed.
> > >
> >
> > Some people have a distorted view of how and
> where
> > radar detectors are most useful (not
> necessarily
> > you).
> >
> > Rather than for hauling ass down the highway,
> by
> > far where they've saved me the most over the
> years
> > is in the case of speed traps on lower speed
> roads
> > which are set up there purposely because of
> some
> > aspect of the road (big speed limit drop, hill,
> > etc.) which works well for revenue generation.
> > Particularly where you're not a local and not
> > aware that they set up there all the time.
> Helps
> > level the playing field in such cases.
> >
> > If you're out blasting down the highway at 80+
> > alone and relying on that to save you, then you
> > get what you deserve. In that case having a
> > "rabbit" out in front of you is a lot more
> useful
> > than the detector.
>
>
> Or one day when you grow up and realize that it is
> stupid and immature to drive more than 5mph over
> the speed limit and you just dont give a fuck
> about childish toys like radar detectors anymore.
> But some boys never grow up to be men.

Unless you are on a six lane expressway with a ridiculous 35mph speed limit, imposed on plebes by the local natives to rape your wallet. That would not happen in your imaginary beaver cleaver, Duddly Doright, boy scout world though.

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