My questions is when misdemeanors fall off? I know " guilty" MISD. stay on your record for life and I get that but I'm trying to get a real good job and I'm wondering is when do they fall of to the point where an employer can't see them unless getting special approval to see the whole record. I know the federal government will always be able to see it even if it's erased from the public. Is it 7-10 years that MISD. fall off to the public? I've been expunging my "not guilty" charges off my record but the guilty ones are the ones that are hindering me and I'm just wondering how long I have to wait until they disappear to the public such as employers.

Sorry u r screwed. They say forever unless you get them expunged and you need to get a lawyer to do that. Virginia is not into expunging. Get good at serving fries.

You should have thought of this before being a dumb ass and getting in trouble.

you can get an expungement in Fairfax county if your charges will found "not guilty" "dismissed" or " nolle" obviously your no lawyer but my questions was when does it fall off to the public to view such as an employer (they use a third party to investigate)? I understand i screwed up & the government will always have my record of what I've done even as a juvenile which the PUBLIC can't see this is where I'm getting at. Any intelligent answers or advise available other than taking the time to talk to a lawyer?

Don't worry about your record. My Wife Diana Rossel-Holloway, "mom of the year" works at Twisted Sisters Seafood and as a front desk clerk Nuevo Inn Suites. I am a cook at Country Cookin. Check out our rap sheets. Livin the good life. It don't get no better than this.

equator21 Wrote:
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> My questions is when misdemeanors fall off? I know
> " guilty" MISD. stay on your record for life and I
> get that but I'm trying to get a real good job and
> I'm wondering is when do they fall of to the point
> where an employer can't see them unless getting
> special approval to see the whole record. I know
> the federal government will always be able to see
> it even if it's erased from the public. Is it 7-10
> years that MISD. fall off to the public? I've been
> expunging my "not guilty" charges off my record
> but the guilty ones are the ones that are
> hindering me and I'm just wondering how long I
> have to wait until they disappear to the public
> such as employers.

Honesty is the best policy, be up front with your prospective employee. Tell them what you did and that you're looking for a fresh start, after a difficult learning experience. HR is not your friend, they'll find out what you were charged with even if you don't tell them and then you'll be out of a job.

Yes I've been talking to this corporation and HR has asked me about my record before pulling it but I didn't disclose everything but my questions still hasn't been answered I'm starting to think that it never falls off to the public......looks like I'll need to spend time with a lawyer and find out for real. Look above for the questions and try to answer if possible.

ridiculous that life isn't for me.

I have a friend with non-violent felony convictions (yes, plural) who has been looking for work. Some companies look back only 7 years (i.e. Comcast), while some will look back 10 years. I do not know if this applies only to felonies and not misdemeanors, but if your misdemeanors are somewhat 'harmless' (i.e. a possession charge, not an assault charge), it will probably make it that much easier to overlook. I would be careful with being that upfront and honest about it, depending on the charge. You also may want to go with companies where you know someone already there so they can advise you of the screening process and you'll know if you have a shot or not.

Personally, my employer conducts background checks and also uses a 'sworn disclosure' form where you have to swear you have or have not been convicted of any crimes more serious than minor traffic infractions. I have seen where other employees who have had minor convictions and submitted a short paragraph with this form just explaining what happened for clarification. Nothing personal or "I'm making a fresh start" about it, just matter of fact (i.e. underage drinking, 8/2009 in Arlington, VA), so the person doing the hiring can determine if it will pose a problem to the employer or not. Again, this depends on the company who is hiring and the type of conviction.

Lastly, you may want to consider getting involved with a temp agency. You could make them aware of your situation and that way they'd only pair you with agencies where it wouldn't be a problem. I've also had a lot of friends/family use temp agencies and end up with permanent positions at very decent companies where they once temped. Good luck!!

thanks for the great advice! I've had an HR government employee tell me the same thing about looking back 7 or in some cases 10 years. So with your statement a MISD. falls off 7-10 years to the EYES of an employer (I understand "guilty" MISD. convictions are on there forever) depending who I'm applying to. But this still doesn't really answer my question fully....

When does a "guilty" MISD. become invisible to the public & employers? In other words if I were to get on FFX website and start looking up my public record will a "guilty" MISD. appear there for all to see and if so when does it fall off?

equator21 Wrote:
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> thanks for the great advice! I've had an HR
> government employee tell me the same thing about
> looking back 7 or in some cases 10 years. So with
> your statement a MISD. falls off 7-10 years to the
> EYES of an employer (I understand "guilty" MISD.
> convictions are on there forever) depending who
> I'm applying to. But this still doesn't really
> answer my question fully....
>
> When does a "guilty" MISD. become invisible to the
> public & employers? In other words if I were to
> get on FFX website and start looking up my public
> record will a "guilty" MISD. appear there for all
> to see and if so when does it fall off?

DMV records go off the screen at 11 years. i.e. DUI MISD won't show on DMV records after 11 years. May be same for your case as well.

abc Wrote:
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> equator21 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > thanks for the great advice! I've had an HR
> > government employee tell me the same thing
> about
> > looking back 7 or in some cases 10 years. So
> with
> > your statement a MISD. falls off 7-10 years to
> the
> > EYES of an employer (I understand "guilty"
> MISD.
> > convictions are on there forever) depending who
> > I'm applying to. But this still doesn't really
> > answer my question fully....
> >
> > When does a "guilty" MISD. become invisible to
> the
> > public & employers? In other words if I were to
> > get on FFX website and start looking up my
> public
> > record will a "guilty" MISD. appear there for
> all
> > to see and if so when does it fall off?
>
> DMV records go off the screen at 11 years. i.e.
> DUI MISD won't show on DMV records after 11 years.
> May be same for your case as well.


I didn't know that about DMV going back 11 years but it's a good thing I'm not applying with DMV. What's it to them if to look back on your criminal record (I understand traffic record) if your not even applying to them?

They don't EVER "fall off"-that's for some things on credit reports.

Unless they are juvenile convictions they are THERE TO STAY unless you get them expunged somehow.

No company wants a workforce full of criminals, and in today's tight job market, they can pick and choose.

Even McDonald's won't hire certain types of criminals. Your only choice may be a collection agency.

LOSER.

equator21 Wrote:
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> thanks for the great advice! I've had an HR
> government employee tell me the same thing about
> looking back 7 or in some cases 10 years. So with
> your statement a MISD. falls off 7-10 years to the
> EYES of an employer (I understand "guilty" MISD.
> convictions are on there forever) depending who
> I'm applying to. But this still doesn't really
> answer my question fully....

It doesn't "fall off". I've been seeing more and more cases where they ask "Have you EVER...". A lot of employers will only ask about 7-10 years, though. The temp agency might be good advice, but it the company were mine, I'd be inclined to check even harder, since an incident on a client site could get me sued as well as losing a client.

> When does a "guilty" MISD. become invisible to the
> public & employers? In other words if I were to
> get on FFX website and start looking up my public
> record will a "guilty" MISD. appear there for all
> to see and if so when does it fall off?

I don't think FFXU ever erases anything. Even if they did, this is the age of information preservation, and you have to be prepared for it to never completely go away.

And keep in mind: if you falsify your application, it's grounds for dismissal, you will not qualify for Unemployment, and then you'll have to answer the common question "Have you ever been terminated with cause, or resigned after being told that you would be?"

I don't think there's anything to do except tackle it head-on and be prepared to attach an explanation to your application along with some sort of explanation as to why it will never happen again.

The "temp/contractor" route does generally get you around "urine tests", but nothing more. Make an appointment with a counselor at the Virginia Employment Commission, and they might be able to give you some solid advice.

Ironically, some employers will look for Felons/Parolees because of tax breaks, but violent offenses such as yours will never be more than a hindrance.

Either way, stay on the straight-and-narrow, and work hard to develop an "in demand" skill. There will be a day in the future when it becomes irrelevant, though it might be a long time from now.

With your cost-opportunity being low, your best approach might be to start your own business. I think that half of the "handymen" out there actually started their own businesses because they were otherwise unemployable.

All you do with this "why did you get into trouble LOSER," "Your life is over go work at mcdonalds," attitude is encourage people to commit more crimes. I hope they hit your house next and not mine.

If you have a record go back to school, get a specialized degree, and go get a job, its not that hard, college is pretty easy actually, it's easier than doing time. The more you specialize your training and studies the more employers will overlook legal blemishes as long as they believe it wont interfere with work.

As to the question, it depends on what state as well as other factors, some states you have to apply for expungement.

Was this crime charged in Funfax county? Cause your youthful-indiscretions will always be recorded here:

http://police.onlyinnova.com/

or here:

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/arrests/

The answer to your question is NEVER !

equator21 Wrote:
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> My questions is when misdemeanors fall off? I know
> " guilty" MISD. stay on your record for life and I
> get that but I'm trying to get a real good job and
> I'm wondering is when do they fall of to the point
> where an employer can't see them unless getting
> special approval to see the whole record. I know
> the federal government will always be able to see
> it even if it's erased from the public. Is it 7-10
> years that MISD. fall off to the public? I've been
> expunging my "not guilty" charges off my record
> but the guilty ones are the ones that are
> hindering me and I'm just wondering how long I
> have to wait until they disappear to the public
> such as employers.


you fuckin idiot what dont you get, those will stay on your record permanintly, if you couldnt understand that from what everyone else is telling you then you probably wouldnt qualify for any job in the first place, stick to flippin burgers and sucking at life FOREVER yes FOREVER

NIGGA NIGGA NIGARDLY NIGGA!!!!! Wrote:
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> equator21 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > you can get an expungement in Fairfax county if
> > your charges will found "not guilty"
> "dismissed"
> > or " nolle" obviously your no lawyer but my
> > questions was when does it fall off to the
> public
> > to view such as an employer (they use a third
> > party to investigate)? I understand i screwed up
> &
> > the government will always have my record of
> what
> > I've done even as a juvenile which the PUBLIC
> > can't see this is where I'm getting at. Any
> > intelligent answers or advise available other
> than
> > taking the time to talk to a lawyer?
>
>
>
>
> You dumb ass! A 'null process' is the same as
> 'dismissed'! Either you are found guilty or not
> guilty. Even the Virginia justice system can not
> get around this. Yada yada yada! People need to
> learn to stand up for what is right here. There
> is nothing 'in between' 'guilty'/'not guilty',
> ANYWHERE!
> And minor/ traffic misdermeanor's fall off your
> record after 11 years. LOOK at the DMV
> record/point system, for example. Yes. Minor
> crap DOES fall off your record.
> And stupid stuff like 'jay-walking/impeding
> traffic' tickets mean nothing, anyway.
> Like when issued to a pedestrian.
> Motor Vehicle Operator violations are getting more
> seriously cayagorized if you idiots have not
> noticed. DWI's. Injurying or killing someone.
> (Manslaughter, etc.) will stay on your record for
> life now. And if these types of violations are
> repeated, jail time and even permanent NATIONWIDE
> driving privileges can be revoked for life.
> Unless. Of course, you have massive funds to hire
> very expensive attorney's to fight the system.
> You will just have to utilize other modes of
> transpo.


You are referring to a driving transcript from DMV. He is asking about a criminal history. They are two different things.

AGAIN THE ANWSER to the QUESTION is no, that includes Misd DWI convictions. They will also stay on your criminal history FOREVER.

You dumb ass! A 'null process' is the same as
> 'dismissed'! Either you are found guilty or not



You are the dumb ass. They are not exactly the same thing. NOLLE PROSEQUI mean the state is not proceeding at this time. They can, however, bring the charge back at a later date if they choose. NOT GUILTY means just that NOT Guilty and the charge can not be brought back against you.

http://crimlaw.blogspot.com/2006/04/be-careful-what-you-ask-for.html



Google it is your friend folks

Everyone Makes mistakes you judgmental asshole.

equator21 Wrote:
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> My questions is when misdemeanors fall off? I know
> " guilty" MISD. stay on your record for life and I
> get that but I'm trying to get a real good job and
> I'm wondering is when do they fall of to the point
> where an employer can't see them unless getting
> special approval to see the whole record. I know
> the federal government will always be able to see
> it even if it's erased from the public. Is it 7-10
> years that MISD. fall off to the public? I've been
> expunging my "not guilty" charges off my record
> but the guilty ones are the ones that are
> hindering me and I'm just wondering how long I
> have to wait until they disappear to the public
> such as employers.

Hmmm. Apparently on this site and the other, I am both 25 and 26. Apparently you can be arrested or charged for one thing, have it show twice on the arrest record, and both with different ages. Might affect the 7 / 10 year rule...

According to FFXU I got a DUI when I actually got a driving after illegally consuming.

like a trojan it's not supposed to slip off

that's why they do allot of testing (not all testing shown in photo)
Attachments:

Google it is your friend folks

showed me only fucking condoms made in china and democrat web sites (using my tax money to preach about free condoms in DC no doubt) - and also no nudity

i'm sick of their worldly crap about using money to block humanity

are you stupi are you stupid sucks who are talking s*** to that's just plain retarde

that's total bullshit

political friends are shoed in for security jobs - sometimes family members - without being qualified, and the background check is ignored for them

yes your gov wants you to know all their hiring practices and pay are legit

and the mob also says so

they don't. that's why fx co tries to stick as many as possible on you.

they put their kids in county jobs and steal like crap and use illegal labor.

you they set up and keep adding false accusations to a shit list so you can't be hired. they already sold and release the data. ie, lexus nexus.

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your employers will see the false accusations as if "you did it" for the rest of your life

it never slips off even if the county promises you: they are fucking liars

i don't know your case but there's a good chance they cheated in court and hit you up as "a minor criminal" when infact your offense was a minor tort (civil offense) that shouldn't have ever been listed as criminal

they will set you up. then use these strings of false accusation in court later against you EVEN IF THEY LOOSE.

that's right: you think it's bad now. but next time in your in court, legal or not, it will be used against you as proof of wrongdoing and need for more defamation and penalty

your screwed - they have your number and will keep legally stalking you

In Virginia Guilty convictions of of misdemeanors never fall off your record. not guilty and nolle prossed charges can be expunged thru the courts. In terms on hiring typically jobs look back 7-10 years on your criminal record. I mean the easiest thing you can do is maybe just ask someone how far they look back. The Temp agency suggestion is a good one. If you dont like that option you my friend can become a cop, fire fighter, or police officer. All three of which will hire you with a simple misdemeanor. Military requires a waiver which can obtained usually routinely as long its not a severe crime.....and Fire and police do hire as well. You would just need to be up front and honest about everything with them because alot of them require polygraph test.

equator21 Wrote:
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> My questions is when misdemeanors fall off? I know
> " guilty" MISD. stay on your record for life and I
> get that but I'm trying to get a real good job and
> I'm wondering is when do they fall of to the point
> where an employer can't see them unless getting
> special approval to see the whole record. I know
> the federal government will always be able to see
> it even if it's erased from the public. Is it 7-10
> years that MISD. fall off to the public? I've been
> expunging my "not guilty" charges off my record
> but the guilty ones are the ones that are
> hindering me and I'm just wondering how long I
> have to wait until they disappear to the public
> such as employers.

yo cuz, joinz the NFL u'z donna hav to worri bout yo'z rap sheet!

Sometimes stuff happens. This person was asking a question...why does everyone have to talk bad...like get good at serving fri's. I had an accident, got in soft gravels and it pulled me off side of the road and i flipped my ride. I got a wreakless driving."misdemeanor"...im a nurse! Not in a fast food. S**t happens!

I found that when an employer (NOT A GOVT OR SECURITY JOB) does a background check, they specify the scope (that's how many years they go back). Move to a new jurisdiction soon and after about 7-10 years, any background checks probably will disregard any info from another county and time period that way back. Avoid using the same addresses and localities where offenses were committed - this is why they ask for every residence as far back as 10 years...leave some out and extend others to cover the gap.

For felonies, Virginia's Democrat governors love to give civil rights back and hand out simple pardons after 5 years. These items MARK your record to let background companies and other checkers know you got restored or pardoned - but the offense will always be their unless expunged.

Nobody will expunge unless you can prove the conviction was unjust.

Like I said GOVT and SECURITY jobs - when they fingerprint you and have access to NCI records can always pull up your past - but in many cases, they have regulations that prevent certain info past a certain time period from being being used against you - also depends on the offense.

I've been tild that they destroy all those records after 10 years. But in the age of the www Im sure the records will exist somewhere.

Lawyer up or kill yourself

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