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Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: MDM ()
Date: June 02, 2013 06:51AM

Seems like the roadwork has come to a dead stop since early May. Does VDOT owe the construction company money? Too many other projects at the same time? Any answers out there?

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Sorry I voted for Obama ()
Date: June 02, 2013 07:00AM

Wish they would provide updates -- with real information -- so that local residents know what's going on.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Will Drawout ()
Date: June 02, 2013 07:24AM

Union labor. Not allowed to work when temp is above 72. But get paid anyway.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: So sorry I voted for Obama ()
Date: June 02, 2013 07:16PM

It can be frustrating, yes.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: VDOT clusterfuck ()
Date: June 02, 2013 09:50PM

Ya know, there is jack shit on the internet about the current status of this project. WHo the fuck knows when it'll be done.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: TakesForever ()
Date: June 25, 2013 10:37AM

I think this was going to be a 3 year project, but now it looks like it's going to be 4 years.

Est Completion Date
June 2015
http://www.virginiadot.org/projects/northernvirginia/route_50_widening.asp

I know they have to do a lot of work, but damn 4 years for 3 miles.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Sr commuter ()
Date: August 20, 2013 02:35PM

Add an additional 6 months as a general rule of thumb to the date thats in vdot page.
got to be a new record to complete 3 miles in 5 years.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: willgetdone ()
Date: August 20, 2013 02:37PM

every few weeks they shift lanes with nothing to show for whats done.

They do have the Bridge on the river kwai built across the creek

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: lbss82bruin ()
Date: August 20, 2013 03:19PM

Not Rt 50 but just off of it:

What are they doing to Stringfellow Road? Looks like they've been widening it for years.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Sr commuter ()
Date: August 20, 2013 03:52PM

At least No new homes are built around Stringfellow . But along the 50 widening so much new homes being built that the widening when complete in 2015 will be a grid lock. Meanwhile route 28 will be a 9 lane highway.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: answers to the questions ()
Date: August 20, 2013 07:39PM

I just wish VDOT had a web site or something, so a concerned citizen could send them a note of some kind and then publish a response on a public forum. That way the citizen, and the public, would all benefit.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Route 50 sucks! ()
Date: August 20, 2013 08:45PM

I had to be in that area for a week. No way in hell I could commute on 50.

Too many on and off ramps to major arteries in and around DC made for a split headache commute.

How do you do it day in and day out?

Do you drink every night?

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: VDOT ()
Date: August 20, 2013 09:40PM

answers to the questions Wrote:
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> I just wish VDOT had a web site or something, so a
> concerned citizen could send them a note of some
> kind and then publish a response on a public
> forum. That way the citizen, and the public,
> would all benefit.

This *is* the VDOT website. Thank you for your comments.
We will make note of what you've said and get back to you
shortly.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Foster Brooks ()
Date: August 20, 2013 09:42PM

Route 50 sucks! Wrote:
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> I had to be in that area for a week. No way in
> hell I could commute on 50.
>
> Too many on and off ramps to major arteries in and
> around DC made for a split headache commute.
>
> How do you do it day in and day out?
>
> Do you drink every night?

I hate driving 50 also. My solution is to take a
few shots of Jack before leaving in the morning. I also
have several drinks before leaving the office each
afternoon - then I head out onto 50. Woo-hoo! Get the
fuck out of my way!

It makes the drive to and from work much more bearable!

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: FIX IT ()
Date: August 20, 2013 10:49PM

I've lived in Canada and the UK and projects of this magnitude are completed in 12 months or less.

I can't believe how fucking slow this project is coming along. I swear the construction company is padding the overall costs and having dump trucks drive in circles and bulldozers move the same pile of dirt from ne spot to another and then back to the first spot.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: fucked up! ()
Date: August 20, 2013 10:51PM

I hate driving 50 also. My solution is to take a
few shots of Jack before leaving in the morning. I also
have several drinks before leaving the office each
afternoon - then I head out onto 50. Woo-hoo! Get the
fuck out of my way!
>>>>>>>>

Must be you and everyone else. I've never seen so many accidents on a strech of road as I've seen on Rt. 50 between Target and South Riding. Add a heavy rain and the road is 6 inches deep in water since there are no gutters or drainage for miles.

The road looks like something from Vietnam in 1975 after the Americans evacuated.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: sRCOMUTTER ()
Date: August 21, 2013 09:21AM

The Project was supposed to be done quickly. Design and Build happening at the same time. I think we all can agree that it is flawed.

How long do you think the 606 project is going to take? will it faster than the route 50?

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: August 21, 2013 10:02AM

answers to the questions Wrote:
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> I just wish VDOT had a web site or something, so a
> concerned citizen could send them a note of some
> kind and then publish a response on a public
> forum. That way the citizen, and the public,
> would all benefit.


Try this.

http://www.vamegaprojects.com/

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: August 21, 2013 10:03AM

FIX IT Wrote:
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> I've lived in Canada and the UK and projects of
> this magnitude are completed in 12 months or less.
>
>
> I can't believe how fucking slow this project is
> coming along. I swear the construction company is
> padding the overall costs and having dump trucks
> drive in circles and bulldozers move the same pile
> of dirt from ne spot to another and then back to
> the first spot.


It makes you wonder how Eisenhower build the Interstate system at all back in the 1950's.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Sum Ting Wong ()
Date: August 21, 2013 10:23AM

The road looks like something from Vietnam in 1975 after the Americans evacuated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LOL!!!! Add a few water buffalos, rice paddies and a couple of old ladies squatting on the side to shit and I think you've got it right.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: blackops ()
Date: August 22, 2013 12:53AM

My guess is they're dragging their feet until the secret underground metro extension to Dulles is complete.

See.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1262264.html

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: PvM7L ()
Date: August 22, 2013 12:57AM

blackops Wrote:
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> My guess is they're dragging their feet until the
> secret underground metro extension to Dulles is
> complete.
>
> See.
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/126
> 2264.html

Lot's of blasting going on over there:

http://www.southriding.net/news/view/rock-drilling-blasting-july-16

https://www.facebook.com/southridingprop/posts/564765420236732

It's the school, no wait - it's the police. Maybe it's both.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: fucked up! ()
Date: August 22, 2013 07:27AM

Another goddamn accident in the Rt 50 construction zone today. This piece of shit road can't be finished fast enough.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Rt 50 hellhole ()
Date: August 22, 2013 05:40PM

The backups today were insane. This piece of shit road has got to be the worst place to drive in Virginia.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: 50sucks ()
Date: August 27, 2013 11:31AM

wait till school starts and then the real fun begins

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: slow goin ()
Date: August 27, 2013 11:48AM

http://www.virginiadot.org/projects/northernvirginia/route_50_widening.asp

Projected completion date is June 2015. I'll place my bet on October 2015.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: 50 sucks ()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:25PM

3.7 miles for 4 years. tunnel boring machine (TBM) in developing countries move at a faster pace.
Can you image if this 3.7 miles had any challenges like rivers/mountains or difficult terrains, how long it would take.

The bridge on the creek is the only thing to show for.

Granted we will hear how they are going to shift traffic every 2 months . moving dirt from one place to another.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: 50sucks ()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:52PM

They built the entire hot lanes on 495 (14 miles) in 4 years. RT50 poor constrution and mangagment.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: shitty Shirley Construction ()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:55PM

Not only are the swervy lane changes incredibly dangerous, the road is falling apart as no maintenance is being applied since it will be torn up soon anyway. The potholes are becoming more frequent and larger.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Hay Zeus ()
Date: August 27, 2013 05:08PM

Must be the same contractor who is working on the Stringfellow road project, I think that road has been torn up for 3 years now.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Mr.xxx ()
Date: August 29, 2013 06:48PM

Reason I live in fairfax and not in BUMFUCK south Riding

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: dbs ()
Date: August 29, 2013 09:31PM

one reason for the duration of both of these projects is there are too many requirements. lanes must be so wide, you can't disturb the wildlife from flatlick stream (or whatever that creek is by avion). you have to maintain through lanes at all time.

i don't have an answer for 50, but for stringfellow it's ridiculous. the first three years of this project (alright, maybe two) were consumed by utility relocation. only now (starting maybe six months ago) are they actually doing any construction on the road. if i were in charge, i'd say to hell with it and shut the whole road down and get it done in less than a year. too bad if that's going to cause headaches, at least the headache will only be a year vs. four! (from what I understand, that's what's going to happen on Walney when VDOT widens it from Westfields to Willard: shut it down and rebuild it, traffic nightmares be damned.

too bad we can't build shit like we did back in the day. roads were done in months vs. years. public servants had the balls to tell the public to deal with it, now they cower in fear that some nimby-ass pansy will complain at the next town hall. guess what?!? that nimby-ass pantywaist is going to complain whether you like it or not.

Oh yeah, and Michael Frey's a tool.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Delay ()
Date: September 03, 2013 03:35PM


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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Gravi5 ()
Date: September 03, 2013 08:33PM

Quoting Fairfax News:

The Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) says its $95 million project to reconstruct and widen nearly four miles of Route 50 between Poland Road in Loudoun County and Route 28 in Fairfax County is more than 50 percent complete, and remains on schedule to open three eastbound lanes in November 2014 and the three westbound lanes by spring 2015.

“We know that three and a half years of construction on one of the busiest commuter corridors in northern Virginia is extremely frustrating for motorists but we are working to accelerate the project wherever possible,” said VDOT’s design-build engineer Susan Shaw. “The fact is we are not simply widening the roadway; this project calls for miles of utility relocation and a complete reconstruction of the roadway.”

To ease traffic flow onto eastbound Route 50 crews are adding a second right turn lane at Pleasant Valley Road in Loudoun County. That work will be complete before the Labor Day weekend. VDOT is also monitoring and tweaking signal timings to keep traffic moving.

Since construction began in October, 2011 motorists have put up with daily lane closures, narrowed lanes, shorter turn lanes and miles of concrete barriers on Route 50

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Root Fiftee ()
Date: September 04, 2013 11:38PM

It's the most fucked up piece of roadway in this area.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: VDOT-Fucking Moron! ()
Date: January 14, 2014 07:37PM

West bound lanes between 28 and Pleasant Valley were full of potholes; it was like driving on a fucking obstacle course. It's hard enough to drive it like a slalom course now you have to dodge potholes.
VDOT and Shirley Contracting are fucking morons! The purpose of widening Rt 50 was to ease the traffic congestion and make it safer; NOT making it more congested and less safe. I've been suffered for 3 long years on this stretch of road and have to wait for another fucking year!

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: tdKC7 ()
Date: January 14, 2014 07:41PM

VDOT-Fucking Moron! Wrote:
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> West bound lanes between 28 and Pleasant Valley
> were full of potholes; it was like driving on a
> fucking obstacle course. It's hard enough to drive
> it like a slalom course now you have to dodge
> potholes.
> VDOT and Shirley Contracting are fucking morons!
> The purpose of widening Rt 50 was to ease the
> traffic congestion and make it safer; NOT making
> it more congested and less safe. I've been
> suffered for 3 long years on this stretch of road
> and have to wait for another fucking year!

And all yer getting is one more lane each way? Gotta luv gubmint!

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Fuck_VODT_and_Shirley ()
Date: April 09, 2014 10:11PM

Totally agree with you all...this is got to be the worst piece of shit road I have ever driven in my whole life.

Fuck you VDOT and Fuck you Shirley construction....shame on you.

Lets all put pressure on the congressmen and senators and piece of shit counties that just take our hard earned $$$ and give us shit in return.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: And Even Worse ()
Date: April 10, 2014 05:55PM

Goddamn idiots with a backhoe cut the comm lines into the Avion area, leaving many without access to either their customers or to FFXU.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Root Fit-tee ()
Date: April 10, 2014 10:08PM

OP started this thread 10 months ago and Rt 50 is shittier than ever. It boggles my mind that thhis clusterfuck is supposed to take another 18 months to finish.

Check it out during a heavy rain storm... rivers of mud ooze across the lanes, cars sliding and smacking into each other and scraping against the crooked concrete barriers. The addition of the potholes from our long winter adds the the adventure.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Chantilly Smash Up Derby ()
Date: May 31, 2014 06:35PM

This part of Rt 50 is always good for some excitement. Today I saw a Dodge Grand Caravan drift across the divider line when the lanes start shifing like someone high on meth set them up. The minivan smacked up against a Hyundai Sonata. After they scraped into each other, I ran over the Sonata's driver's side mirror that fell into the road. Fun times.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Route 50 Widening Project Detail ()
Date: May 31, 2014 08:26PM

Route 50 Widening
From Route 28 in Fairfax to Poland Road in Loudoun
http://www.virginiadot.org/projects/northernvirginia/route_50_widening.asp

About the Project
Route 50 is being reconstructed and widened from four to six lanes between Poland Road and Route 28 (about 3.7 miles). In addition, VDOT is also:

• Improving traffic signalization
• Improving turn lanes
• Providing a shared-use path on both sides of the road
• Providing crosswalks with curb ramps and pedestrian signals
• Widening and upgrading bridges

Route 50 narrows from six lanes to four just west of Route 28. Increased development and congestion in Loudoun County in recent years now leads to backups during much of the day on the existing four-lane segment, especially during morning and evening rush hours.

This project aims to relieve current and anticipated congestion, to provide pedestrian and cyclist accommodations, and to improve safety along the corridor. The road will also be more level and provide wider buffers between travel lanes and roadside hazards.

The current project cost is estimated at about $94.9 million:

• $10.0 million for preliminary engineering
• $19.0 million for right of way acquisition
• $10.5 million for utility relocation
• $55.4 million for construction


Traffic Impacts
Regular closures: Drivers can expect periodic traffic shifts, daytime lane closures 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. in each direction, and some occasional overnight lane closures.

Route 50 traffic shifts scheduled for spring and summer 2014:

April - Westbound traffic will shift to the right from Pleasant Valley (Loudoun) to Willard Road.

May - Westbound traffic will shift to the left from Lee Road to Stonecroft Boulevard.

June - Westbound traffic will shift to the right from Stonecroft Boulevard to Pleasant Valley (Fairfax) and onto the new westbound Cub Run bridge.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: get used to the 3rd world road ()
Date: May 31, 2014 09:02PM

Officially, the widening project is slated to be completed November 2015. http://www.virginiadot.org/VDOT/Projects/Northern_Virginia/asset_upload_file795_37687.pdf

Unofficially, I have heard from a friend in upper managament with Shirley Construction that it will be done March 2016.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Nutman ()
Date: June 01, 2014 04:54PM

Another wreck today but traffic was moving since the remnants were off to the side.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Date: June 08, 2014 12:41PM

Hey, rickies, Rte. 50 is taking so much hurting time because those donks need to move lots of buried money metal pipe.

Just like hurting Stringfellow, except with money metal Rte. 50, they didn't have a money updated map of the buried hurting pipes.

Chill out, donk, Rte. 50 is a show until the end of 2016, rick.

Borgata. It's a show.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: strui ()
Date: June 08, 2014 06:20PM

Bishop Johnny Cakes Wrote:
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> Hey, rickies, Rte. 50 is taking so much hurting
> time because those donks need to move lots of
> buried money metal pipe.
>
> Just like hurting Stringfellow, except with money
> metal Rte. 50, they didn't have a money updated
> map of the buried hurting pipes.
>
> Chill out, donk, Rte. 50 is a show until the end
> of 2016, rick.
>
> Borgata. It's a show.

are you having a stroke

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: tar baby ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:38AM

I saw a tar truck on the side of the road near the Hampton Inn and U-Haul on Rt. 50 yesterday. It looked liked it had been hit hard by another vehicle. Unfortunately, the tar tank did not rupture as it would have improved the road surface of this piece of shit road.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: tar baby ()
Date: June 19, 2014 06:42AM

How it feels and looks to drive Rt. 50.
Attachments:
Rt 50.jpg

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: lol at the (R)etard ()
Date: June 19, 2014 08:52AM

Lol at the moron above with the "sorry voted for obama" name, trying to increase that as a google result I'm sure, likely is a (R)etard all his life, and thinks a president has anything to do with a local road project being fucked up by a former republican governor.

Dumb as fuck.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Noooope ()
Date: June 19, 2014 09:59AM

lol at the (R)etard Wrote:
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> Lol at the moron above with the "sorry voted for
> obama" name, trying to increase that as a google
> result I'm sure, likely is a (R)etard all his
> life, and thinks a president has anything to do
> with a local road project being fucked up by a
> former republican governor.
>
> Dumb as fuck.

Our previous Republican governor that you are talking about is the one that instituted the increase in Sales Taxes that would directly fund improvements to Virginia's transportation and infrastructure. So the blame must be one of the 2 (D)ouchebags that was governor before him.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Gassy Gus ()
Date: June 19, 2014 11:08PM

LOL at the picture above. Ain't far from the truth.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Blame the developers ()
Date: August 11, 2014 07:00PM

I came here to complain. But not about the construction workers, the contractors, or the progress of the work on Rt 50. They are my saviors!
I'm here to complain about the boundless and unregulated expansion of thousands of homes in Southern Loudoun. These developers get a huge advantage of paving over beautiful turf farms, and replacing them with Cookie cutter townhouses and McMansions. All housing taxpayers who will just end up being in front of me as I pay my daily suffering on that effing route 50.
It should not take an hour to drive 12 miles from South Riding into Reston!
So to all the home builders and developers, to the local politicians who keep taking the payola from the developers to build without constraint or planning: F U!

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: TAMFARM ()
Date: August 12, 2014 08:13AM

So how's that piedmont environmental council working out for you poor Loudoun folk....they were the salvation of Haymaket when Disney was thrown out...now look at the obscene sprawl they allowed to come.....believe me these "environmental " groups are a scam to save the Middleburgers from the unwashed masses.....
Thanks PEC for a wonderful job in Arcola....urban sprawl on crack...now headed you way on Rt. 50 west....it's a coming.....share the sprawl love with the west

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Frustrated ()
Date: August 22, 2014 10:04AM

Mental note....when they are calling for rain, bring the boat and enjoy Chantilly's version of White Water Canyon. It's got everything: dips, hairpin turns, peaks, valleys and LOTS and LOTS of water!!!

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: YOU! ()
Date: August 22, 2014 11:29AM

Blame the developers Wrote:
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> I came here to complain. But not about the
> construction workers, the contractors, or the
> progress of the work on Rt 50. They are my
> saviors!
> I'm here to complain about the boundless and
> unregulated expansion of thousands of homes in
> Southern Loudoun. These developers get a huge
> advantage of paving over beautiful turf farms, and
> replacing them with Cookie cutter townhouses and
> McMansions. All housing taxpayers who will just
> end up being in front of me as I pay my daily
> suffering on that effing route 50.
> It should not take an hour to drive 12 miles from
> South Riding into Reston!
> So to all the home builders and developers, to the
> local politicians who keep taking the payola from
> the developers to build without constraint or
> planning: F U!


And I blame YOU for giving your money to the developers to develop the McMansion you live in. The only person you have to blame is yourself for living in freaking West Virginia.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Tired Driver ()
Date: August 23, 2014 05:00PM

Blame the developers Wrote:
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> I came here to complain. But not about the
> construction workers, the contractors, or the
> progress of the work on Rt 50. They are my
> saviors!
> I'm here to complain about the boundless and
> unregulated expansion of thousands of homes in
> Southern Loudoun. These developers get a huge
> advantage of paving over beautiful turf farms, and
> replacing them with Cookie cutter townhouses and
> McMansions. All housing taxpayers who will just
> end up being in front of me as I pay my daily
> suffering on that effing route 50.
> It should not take an hour to drive 12 miles from
> South Riding into Reston!
> So to all the home builders and developers, to the
> local politicians who keep taking the payola from
> the developers to build without constraint or
> planning: F U!

^^ What Blame the Developers wrote...

By the time VDOT completes this never ending project, it will require another project/update to accomodate all of the new homes that keep coming on West 50 toward Middleburg. It's disgusting.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Hungry4PizzaOffline ()
Date: August 23, 2014 05:42PM

This project is doing good for the nice, environmentally friendly communities along the great corridor. It's going to be smooth when it's finished!

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Snowdens Old ()
Date: August 23, 2014 05:45PM

It's never going to end! Rt. 50 is a disaster and the new home arrival/owners for West 50 beyond Rt. 606/Loudoun County Pkwy. are in for a horrible life toward driving to anything close-by on any given weekend or to a job beyond the mire of this mess... Someday- cloverleaf and bypass construction will commence and won't happen until most, reading this post, are long deceased.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: PEDfan ()
Date: August 23, 2014 07:39PM

TAMFARM Wrote:
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> So how's that piedmont environmental council
> working out for you poor Loudoun folk....they were
> the salvation of Haymaket when Disney was thrown
> out...now look at the obscene sprawl they allowed
> to come.....believe me these "environmental "
> groups are a scam to save the Middleburgers from
> the unwashed masses.....
> Thanks PEC for a wonderful job in Arcola....urban
> sprawl on crack...now headed you way on Rt. 50
> west....it's a coming.....share the sprawl love
> with the west

PEC had nothing to do with the development in Arcola. Explain with a little more detail exactly how the PEC is responsible for urban sprawl in the Dulles South/West corrider.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: WhoU ()
Date: August 23, 2014 08:04PM

Blame the developers Wrote:
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> I came here to complain. But not about the
> construction workers, the contractors, or the
> progress of the work on Rt 50. They are my
> saviors!
> I'm here to complain about the boundless and
> unregulated expansion of thousands of homes in
> Southern Loudoun. These developers get a huge
> advantage of paving over beautiful turf farms, and
> replacing them with Cookie cutter townhouses and
> McMansions. All housing taxpayers who will just
> end up being in front of me as I pay my daily
> suffering on that effing route 50.
> It should not take an hour to drive 12 miles from
> South Riding into Reston!
> So to all the home builders and developers, to the
> local politicians who keep taking the payola from
> the developers to build without constraint or
> planning: F U!

and where do you live? On a beautiful farm? No?

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Laquandayisha ()
Date: August 23, 2014 10:09PM

Y'all NoVa residents have everything... Jobs, money Etc. Go anywhere south of NoVa and see jobless people with no money living in poor cities :(

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: SRres ()
Date: August 23, 2014 10:12PM

PEC works for nobody but the foxhunting estate district.

During the boom of the 90s, they opposed every planned development that would have brought road improvements, forcing not only the by right development option in the face of the market demand, but causing leapfrog development to proliferate all the way to Winchester.

Add in their idiot yuppie water carriers who want to live "in the country" (3000+ sf on fice or ten acres, with well and drainfield) but have all the perks of the city close by (and their jobs in Fairfax and DC), and you have the attrition based ruin that we're seeing today.

It doesn't affect the real backbone of PEC, because they don't need to work for a living, and don't need their land to produce anything to pay for itself in order to stay open--not to mention the tax breaks they get as a result of PEC lobbying.

They shouldn't be a 501(c)3, they spend most of their $6M annual budget on political lobbying through shell groups.

They did Fairfax Loudoun, but not in terms of development: they Fairfaxed it in claiming building no roads would stop it.

and they don't care, as long as the hunt can still run through people's property out on western route 50.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Tamfarm ()
Date: August 24, 2014 06:28AM

Thanks for the PEC input......What does the PEC have to do with the Arcola sprawl.......the primary reason was the total DOWNZONING of western Loudoun .This is a shining star on their crown. By down zoning western Loudoun to 25 and 50 acre lots and resisting any attempts for road expansion and improvement ...everything got crammed into the east. This as an attempt to protect the wealthy contributors out west. They are pegged as an " environmental " group.....really.......someone care to take a look at the land swap deals at Gilbert's Corner....well that's for another day. ....good luck on Rt. 50 you poor folks.........

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: August 24, 2014 07:44AM


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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: PECFAN ()
Date: August 24, 2014 05:10PM

Tamfarm Wrote:
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> Thanks for the PEC input......What does the PEC
> have to do with the Arcola sprawl.......the
> primary reason was the total DOWNZONING of western
> Loudoun .This is a shining star on their crown. By
> down zoning western Loudoun to 25 and 50 acre lots
> and resisting any attempts for road expansion and
> improvement ...everything got crammed into the
> east. This as an attempt to protect the wealthy
> contributors out west. They are pegged as an "
> environmental " group.....really.......someone
> care to take a look at the land swap deals at
> Gilbert's Corner....well that's for another day.
> ....good luck on Rt. 50 you poor folks.........


Nice developer myth. I've always heard the developers cry that it was the downzoning of western FAIRFAX county that caused the sprawl to hop into eastern Loudoun/Dulles South. Since when has development ever been contingent on road networks? Answer: never. Has the PEC supported the Route 606 widening? Answer: Yes. But did the developers build it? No. Instead developers built like crazy - knowing full well the road networks couldn't handle the traffic. What do they care? They figure if traffic gets bad enough sooner or later there will be enough public pressure to widen roads. By then they are long gone. If you don't have the political clout to get your roads, if you don't have the money to build them, if you are out-maneuvered by the NIMBY's or environmentalists - get a clue and don't build. It's irresponsible and bad citizenship that only hurts people already living there. Stupid really. You know you are screwing everyone, but you do it anyway, causing massive gridlock and suffering -- then you cheerfully blame other people when you didn't have the money or know-how to get the supporting road networks built. Blaming PEC is like blaming a homeowner for a burglary because they forgot to lock their doors.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: greenarrow ()
Date: August 25, 2014 08:53PM

According to the Loudoun Supervisor in charge of the area (Dulles South) from this post it seems that all three east bound lanes will be open the whole way around next Tuesday:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=630967037015902&id=156558014456809&refid=17

Im equally disappointed that this project cost so much and took so long but I am glad that per their time line which seems relatively on track given the last update we should have all three lanes both ways by the end of this year.

The rest of the project is adding a 4th lane westbound up to Stone croft Blvd and adding a spur to Chantilly Crossing. Plus the trails on the side. All of that will finish up by end of next year, but for us commuters the lanes are finally on the horizon. Especially with the intensifying lane closures the last few weeks.

Now about the excessive development in South Loudoun, we can blame multiple actors. The Loudoun BOS for approving so many developments without demanding fair returns in infrastructure. We can also blame Fairfax for downsizing most of western Ffx county forcing builders into Loudoun. We can also blame both counties for not figuring out how to build a regional network rather than just each county separately.

The most recent Braddock pleasant valley roundabout is an example of how residents of both counties turn on each other when these projects benefit everyone. The better the roads there are from Loudoun, the more people willing to work and shop in Fairfax, without making the county overly dense. But because of the poor cross county network, Loudoun is developing its own retail centers and job centers. Which will ultimately weaken the pull of Fairfax overall. Obviously this will take time but many projects like One Loudoun and the Dulles Landing project are exciting loudoun residents. As well as the new metro extension and the massive Moorefield development.

We can deny all of this and simply say more people should just stay or move to Fairfax but the fact is other than the major urban centers such as Tysons and Reston, there is far less growth in the other areas, because the prices are too far high. Even in the prior mentioned areas most of the new buyers are upper class or single young professionals, who will be likely to eventually move to Loudoun later once they start their families. And all of this has begun to show its consequences/benefits as Loudoun recently was one of the only counties of the region to have large growth income household and capital income. As a result it's obvious that Fairfax, particularly southwest and western fairfax need to better link with eastern loudoun. Or the jobs and retail will move west to where many young professional families continue to choose as their destination. And loudoun needs to continue to improve its infrastructure while offering more local offerings to reduce some of the cross county traffic.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: greenarrow ()
Date: August 25, 2014 08:55PM

Al I'm trying to say is things can never go back to the way they were either for fairfax or loudoun benefit. We have to make things work while making sure everyone can cooperate and compromise on developments, infrastructure, and inter county ties.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: August 25, 2014 09:29PM

Perhaps greenarrow. But it is a long way off. I've had quite a few neighbors over the last 20 years move to Loudoun County (as you say, when their kids got to school age) and guess what: every single one of them worked and still work in Fairfax County (or further east).

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: greenarrow ()
Date: August 26, 2014 11:15PM

It will take time. But just as Fairfax was once an outer suburb of DC, Loudoun is now a suburb of Fairfax. Especially with the new restrictions on developments in Loudoun, we may see a shift further west again.

Update on route 50 expansion:

Supervisor Leterneou announced via Facebook that three east bound lanes will be open by Thursday morning commute! This will occur in two phases the next two days.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Gerrymanderer2 ()
Date: September 10, 2014 11:44PM

What are the new restrictions on developments in Loudoun?

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: MM4jF ()
Date: September 11, 2014 02:43PM

i do road widening so more illegals can get into dc. if i get loans to lease equipment and ilelgals and huge contract guarantees as well

as they say, "anybody, anybody makes money that way"

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: ct6x6 ()
Date: September 11, 2014 02:46PM

MDM Wrote:
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> Does VDOT owe the construction company money?

it's no secret in the early 90's the roads around Richmond were much better than where they were in fx, where there was more traffic. it was in the news if i remember

there's "central control" for you

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: TrafficZombie ()
Date: May 30, 2015 11:24PM

Jesus, is this nightmare strech of road ever going to be finished?

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Jose Gomez ()
Date: May 31, 2015 07:52AM

Here's how it works: liberal politicians funnel work to union shops. Union dues go straight back to liberal politicians' pockets. Of course they're gonna take as long as possible to complete any cash cow project like this.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: trippy2 ()
Date: June 11, 2015 04:17AM

I read that when this porject is done, there will be a 10 foot wide bike lane alongside the road. Ha ha....the only bike riders in that area are the illegals you see by the dozens. At least they won't be as likely to get hit and end up using my tax dollars for medical treatment.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: pp3 ()
Date: July 20, 2015 10:24PM

Looks like there will be an other traffic light on 50 too... in between Centreville Rd and the Chantilly TArget. The new light will allow traffic off of 28 from the North on to 50 east.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: epb ()
Date: July 21, 2015 02:14PM

pp3 Wrote:
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> Looks like there will be an other traffic light on
> 50 too... in between Centreville Rd and the
> Chantilly TArget. The new light will allow
> traffic off of 28 from the North on to 50 east.

Actually, the light is on westbound 50 to allow traffic from 28 North to make the left onto Lee Road--though that traffic could just continue down 28 to Willard and come back on Lee...great job.

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Re: Rt. 50 widening in Chantilly. WTF is going on?
Posted by: Civil Engineer ()
Date: July 21, 2015 02:31PM

The new projected date of finish is estimated June 2017 if the weather stays good.

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