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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: raskull ()
Date: June 21, 2013 03:13PM

Mr GFR

Do you think you have "rights"? Try googling Japanise Americans 1942. You have no "rights", the government is free to suspend your "rights" whenever the want. You are just slave and the sooner people figure this out, the sooner it can be fixed.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Grizzled Vet ()
Date: June 21, 2013 06:21PM

Those Japs were all spies! They had to be rounded up!

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: cpLxD ()
Date: June 25, 2013 06:25PM

Bump for the pigs.

Any new info on the case except Rambo and his goon squad showed up and blew away some chick with a pizza cutter?

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: adsfasdfas ()
Date: June 25, 2013 08:29PM

cpLxD Wrote:
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> Bump for the pigs.
>
> Any new info on the case except Rambo and his goon
> squad showed up and blew away some chick with a
> pizza cutter?

Yes, a witness came forward and said the shooters..."Look lika man".
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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: June 25, 2013 09:29PM

And still we wait.

This is going to be one hell of a cover up for the time it's taking.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 28, 2013 02:05AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> And still we wait.
>
> This is going to be one hell of a cover up for the
> time it's taking.


What are you waiting for? You and others have already concluded there is a cover up taking place. Give it a few more weeks and nobody will even admit a shooting happened.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: j9cNj ()
Date: June 28, 2013 02:10AM

what a fag, bumping a thread in hopes to find someone to lose more arguments with

get a life

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: raskull ()
Date: June 28, 2013 10:32AM

Mr GFR Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And still we wait.
> >
> > This is going to be one hell of a cover up for
> the
> > time it's taking.
>
>
> What are you waiting for? You and others have
> already concluded there is a cover up taking
> place. Give it a few more weeks and nobody will
> even admit a shooting happened.

I guess you've never heard of Carlos Garcia? He was assaulted by a LCSO deputy in 2009, the incident was caught on dash cam video, he now has a massive law suit against the former deputy, Terry Daniel, in federal court. LCSO investigated this incident and found no wrong doing on the part of the deputy. In their usual effort to cover things up, LCSO charged Mr. Garcia with assault on a deputy. That's how things happen in the People's Republic of Loudoun County.

Mr GFR, you're either very stupid or a LCSO deputy. Which is it?

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: raskull ()
Date: June 28, 2013 10:40AM

Mr GFR Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And still we wait.
> >
> > This is going to be one hell of a cover up for
> the
> > time it's taking.
>
>
> What are you waiting for? You and others have
> already concluded there is a cover up taking
> place. Give it a few more weeks and nobody will
> even admit a shooting happened.

Oh, by the way, if there was no wrong doing on the part of the deputies, why is this case now in the hands of the Commonwealth's Attorney's office????

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: June 28, 2013 11:08AM

Mr GFR Wrote:
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>
>
>
> What are you waiting for? You and others have
> already concluded there is a cover up taking
> place. Give it a few more weeks and nobody will
> even admit a shooting happened.

Im waiting for the police or county attorney or somebody in the county government to tell us happened. Does that seem strange to you?

As a person who lives in this area and has actually shopped in that Costco, I think I have a right to know.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: asdfasdfsafd ()
Date: June 28, 2013 02:18PM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Mr GFR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> >
> > What are you waiting for? You and others have
> > already concluded there is a cover up taking
> > place. Give it a few more weeks and nobody will
> > even admit a shooting happened.
>
> Im waiting for the police or county attorney or
> somebody in the county government to tell us
> happened. Does that seem strange to you?
>
> As a person who lives in this area and has
> actually shopped in that Costco, I think I have a
> right to know.

Me too!

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Jaco ()
Date: June 28, 2013 04:50PM

raskull Wrote:
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> Mr GFR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Stabitha Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > And still we wait.
> > >
> > > This is going to be one hell of a cover up
> for
> > the
> > > time it's taking.
> >
> >
> > What are you waiting for? You and others have
> > already concluded there is a cover up taking
> > place. Give it a few more weeks and nobody will
> > even admit a shooting happened.
>
> Oh, by the way, if there was no wrong doing on the
> part of the deputies, why is this case now in the
> hands of the Commonwealth's Attorney's office????

The Commonwealth's Attorney always reviews the evidence in a officer involved shooting to determine whether the officer/deputy violated any laws, it does not indicate "wrong doing".

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 30, 2013 04:06AM

j9cNj Wrote:
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> what a fag, bumping a thread in hopes to find
> someone to lose more arguments with
>
> get a life

NO ass wipe, I was busy. Mom made me leave the basement for a couple of days. And 3 days is a huge bump. You are the one with issues. Why do you keep posting under random names?

Stop being scarred.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 30, 2013 04:12AM

raskull Wrote:
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> I guess you've never heard of Carlos Garcia? He
> was assaulted by a LCSO deputy in 2009, the
> incident was caught on dash cam video, he now has
> a massive law suit against the former deputy,
> Terry Daniel, in federal court. LCSO investigated
> this incident and found no wrong doing on the part
> of the deputy. In their usual effort to cover
> things up, LCSO charged Mr. Garcia with assault on
> a deputy. That's how things happen in the People's
> Republic of Loudoun County.
>
> Mr GFR, you're either very stupid or a LCSO
> deputy. Which is it?

No I have never heard of Carlos Garcia. Just because somebody has a pending lawsuit in federal court does not mean a whole lot without knowing more about the case or the case status in federal court. How long ago was the suit filed? Has the trail started yet? Maybe I will just Google it and see if anything pops up on it. Do you have a link to the video?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/30/2013 04:20AM by Mr GFR.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 30, 2013 04:18AM

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Mr GFR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> >
> > What are you waiting for? You and others have
> > already concluded there is a cover up taking
> > place. Give it a few more weeks and nobody will
> > even admit a shooting happened.
>
> Im waiting for the police or county attorney or
> somebody in the county government to tell us
> happened. Does that seem strange to you?
>
> As a person who lives in this area and has
> actually shopped in that Costco, I think I have a
> right to know.


Not strange once everything is finished. But the cops will not say anything more until the Commonwealth rules on the shooting and maybe even not after that beyond saying no charges are being placed. It all depends how things look. If its a ruled a good shooting and defendable in civil court they will release more info then if they think there are issues with the shooting.

When was this shooting again? I would bet it would be at least a month from the shooting date before the commonwealth decides.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Mr GFR ()
Date: June 30, 2013 04:51AM

Raskull--

I just Googled Carlos Garcia and the Video even came up. I would have to agree that Loudoun my loose that case and end up paying Garcia some money.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: raskull ()
Date: June 30, 2013 08:14AM

Mr GFR Wrote:
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> Raskull--
>
> I just Googled Carlos Garcia and the Video even
> came up. I would have to agree that Loudoun my
> loose that case and end up paying Garcia some
> money.

The Garcia case is typical of what I've seen in my encounters with LCSO. They tried to sweep the Garcia case under the rug and charged Mr.Garcia with assault on a deputy, this is how things are done by LCSO in the People's Republik of Loudoun County. It's all good the DOJ is comming and they're going to clean-up this county.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: raskull ()
Date: August 01, 2013 06:37PM

You should watch the video of the press conference. When Plowman says the deputies were "justified" in their actions, Sheriff Chapman looks down and you see his face cringe. Sheriff Chapman knows his deputies screwed-up and his body language shows it.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: August 01, 2013 07:22PM

raskull Wrote:
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> You should watch the video of the press
> conference. When Plowman says the deputies were
> "justified" in their actions, Sheriff Chapman
> looks down and you see his face cringe. Sheriff
> Chapman knows his deputies screwed-up and his body
> language shows it.

Anybody have the video for that?

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Raskull ()
Date: August 02, 2013 07:35AM

Two Cents Wrote:
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> raskull Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You should watch the video of the press
> > conference. When Plowman says the deputies were
> > "justified" in their actions, Sheriff Chapman
> > looks down and you see his face cringe. Sheriff
> > Chapman knows his deputies screwed-up and his
> body
> > language shows it.
>
> Anybody have the video for that?

Check local news stations, Fox 5, ABC 7, NBC 4, etc.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Hollywood ()
Date: August 02, 2013 07:37AM

Or you could just post the link?

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Loudoun Native ()
Date: August 02, 2013 08:01PM

raskull Wrote:
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> You should watch the video of the press
> conference. When Plowman says the deputies were
> "justified" in their actions, Sheriff Chapman
> looks down and you see his face cringe. Sheriff
> Chapman knows his deputies screwed-up and his body
> language shows it.
The triggerman is deputy foster. He'll get a hero's welcome when he returns to duty. I hope this eats him from the inside out for the rest of his life.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Jaco ()
Date: August 02, 2013 08:28PM

Nice "pizza cutter"! Just because you are cutting pizza with it doesn't mean it's a dull little wheel.
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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Raskull ()
Date: August 08, 2013 05:29PM

Loudoun Native Wrote:
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> raskull Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You should watch the video of the press
> > conference. When Plowman says the deputies were
> > "justified" in their actions, Sheriff Chapman
> > looks down and you see his face cringe. Sheriff
> > Chapman knows his deputies screwed-up and his
> body
> > language shows it.
> The triggerman is deputy foster. He'll get a
> hero's welcome when he returns to duty. I hope
> this eats him from the inside out for the rest of
> his life.

If we're lucky deputy foster will give his Glock a blowjob!

If you read the report, there were 5 deputies at CostCo, 3 holstered their tazers BEFORE the situation was under control. That is not SOP in such a situation and is most likely a violation of policy! But this is Loudoun, deputies are NEVER disciplend when they violate policy or break the law BECAUSE THEY ANSWER TO AN elected OFFICIAL WHO CAN NOT BE FIRED OR REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY ANY ONE (he can be arrested, BUT only by a state or county coronor and no one else)!

IN OTHER WORDS, DEPUTIES ANSWER TO NO ONE AND THEY KNOW THIS!

In the Carlos Garcia case, Mr. Garcia was tackled to the ground by a deputy, knocked-out when his head hit the ground, then charged with assault on a deputy! WTF? The other deputies on the scene DID NOT report the charges against Mr. Garcia were false. IT IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS NOT REPORTING THAT CHARGES AGAINST A PERSON ARE FALSE! NO DEPUTY WAS EVER CHARGED OR FIRED! Loudoun needs to change to a poLICE department with a poLICE cheif who can be FIRED if officers get out of line!

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: ><<><><><>< ()
Date: August 09, 2013 08:42PM

Raskull Wrote:
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> Loudoun Native Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > raskull Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You should watch the video of the press
> > > conference. When Plowman says the deputies
> were
> > > "justified" in their actions, Sheriff Chapman
> > > looks down and you see his face cringe.
> Sheriff
> > > Chapman knows his deputies screwed-up and his
> > body
> > > language shows it.
> > The triggerman is deputy foster. He'll get a
> > hero's welcome when he returns to duty. I hope
> > this eats him from the inside out for the rest
> of
> > his life.
>
> If we're lucky deputy foster will give his Glock a
> blowjob!
>
> If you read the report, there were 5 deputies at
> CostCo, 3 holstered their tazers BEFORE the
> situation was under control. That is not SOP in
> such a situation and is most likely a violation of
> policy! But this is Loudoun, deputies are NEVER
> disciplend when they violate policy or break the
> law BECAUSE THEY ANSWER TO AN elected OFFICIAL WHO
> CAN NOT BE FIRED OR REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY ANY ONE
> (he can be arrested, BUT only by a state or county
> coronor and no one else)!
>
> IN OTHER WORDS, DEPUTIES ANSWER TO NO ONE AND THEY
> KNOW THIS!
>
> In the Carlos Garcia case, Mr. Garcia was tackled
> to the ground by a deputy, knocked-out when his
> head hit the ground, then charged with assault on
> a deputy! WTF? The other deputies on the scene DID
> NOT report the charges against Mr. Garcia were
> false. IT IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW FOR LAW
> ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS NOT REPORTING THAT CHARGES
> AGAINST A PERSON ARE FALSE! NO DEPUTY WAS EVER
> CHARGED OR FIRED! Loudoun needs to change to a
> poLICE department with a poLICE cheif who can be
> FIRED if officers get out of line!

Assault is also considered touching of the officer (or a person for that matter).

§ 18.2-57. Assault and battery.

A. Any person who commits a simple assault or assault and battery is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor, and if the person intentionally selects the person against whom a simple assault is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color or national origin, the penalty upon conviction shall include a term of confinement of at least six months, 30 days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement.

B. However, if a person intentionally selects the person against whom an assault and battery resulting in bodily injury is committed because of his race, religious conviction, color or national origin, the person is guilty of a Class 6 felony, and the penalty upon conviction shall include a term of confinement of at least six months, 30 days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement.

C. In addition, if any person commits an assault or an assault and battery against another knowing or having reason to know that such other person is a judge, a magistrate, a law-enforcement officer as defined in subsection F, a correctional officer as defined in § 53.1-1, a person directly involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of inmates in the custody of the Department of Corrections or an employee of a local or regional correctional facility directly involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of inmates in the custody of the facility, a person directly involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of persons in the custody of or under the supervision of the Department of Juvenile Justice, an employee or other individual who provides control, care, or treatment of sexually violent predators committed to the custody of the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Services, a firefighter as defined in § 65.2-102, or a volunteer firefighter or any emergency medical services personnel member who is employed by or is a volunteer of an emergency medical services agency or as a member of a bona fide volunteer fire department or volunteer emergency medical services agency, regardless of whether a resolution has been adopted by the governing body of a political subdivision recognizing such firefighters or emergency medical services personnel as employees, engaged in the performance of his public duties, such person is guilty of a Class 6 felony, and, upon conviction, the sentence of such person shall include a mandatory minimum term of confinement of six months.

Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to affect the right of any person charged with a violation of this section from asserting and presenting evidence in support of any defenses to the charge that may be available under common law.

D. In addition, if any person commits a battery against another knowing or having reason to know that such other person is a full-time or part-time teacher, principal, assistant principal, or guidance counselor of any public or private elementary or secondary school and is engaged in the performance of his duties as such, he is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor and the sentence of such person upon conviction shall include a sentence of 15 days in jail, two days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement. However, if the offense is committed by use of a firearm or other weapon prohibited on school property pursuant to § 18.2-308.1, the person shall serve a mandatory minimum sentence of confinement of six months.

E. In addition, any person who commits a battery against another knowing or having reason to know that such individual is a health care provider as defined in § 8.01-581.1 who is engaged in the performance of his duties as an emergency health care provider in an emergency room of a hospital or clinic or on the premises of any other facility rendering emergency medical care is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The sentence of such person, upon conviction, shall include a term of confinement of 15 days in jail, two days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement.

F. As used in this section:

"Judge" means any justice or judge of a court of record of the Commonwealth including a judge designated under § 17.1-105, a judge under temporary recall under § 17.1-106, or a judge pro tempore under § 17.1-109, any member of the State Corporation Commission, or of the Virginia Workers' Compensation Commission, and any judge of a district court of the Commonwealth or any substitute judge of such district court.

"Law-enforcement officer" means any full-time or part-time employee of a police department or sheriff's office that is part of or administered by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof who is responsible for the prevention or detection of crime and the enforcement of the penal, traffic or highway laws of the Commonwealth, any conservation officer of the Department of Conservation and Recreation commissioned pursuant to § 10.1-115, any special agent of the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control, conservation police officers appointed pursuant to § 29.1-200, and full-time sworn members of the enforcement division of the Department of Motor Vehicles appointed pursuant to § 46.2-217, and such officer also includes jail officers in local and regional correctional facilities, all deputy sheriffs, whether assigned to law-enforcement duties, court services or local jail responsibilities, auxiliary police officers appointed or provided for pursuant to §§ 15.2-1731 and 15.2-1733, auxiliary deputy sheriffs appointed pursuant to § 15.2-1603, police officers of the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority pursuant to § 5.1-158, and fire marshals appointed pursuant to § 27-30 when such fire marshals have police powers as set out in §§ 27-34.2 and 27-34.2:1.

"School security officer" means an individual who is employed by the local school board for the purpose of maintaining order and discipline, preventing crime, investigating violations of school board policies and detaining persons violating the law or school board policies on school property, a school bus or at a school-sponsored activity and who is responsible solely for ensuring the safety, security and welfare of all students, faculty and staff in the assigned school.

G. "Simple assault" or "assault and battery" shall not be construed to include the use of, by any teacher, teacher aide, principal, assistant principal, guidance counselor, school security officer, school bus driver or school bus aide, while acting in the course and scope of his official capacity, any of the following: (i) incidental, minor or reasonable physical contact or other actions designed to maintain order and control; (ii) reasonable and necessary force to quell a disturbance or remove a student from the scene of a disturbance that threatens physical injury to persons or damage to property; (iii) reasonable and necessary force to prevent a student from inflicting physical harm on himself; (iv) reasonable and necessary force for self-defense or the defense of others; or (v) reasonable and necessary force to obtain possession of weapons or other dangerous objects or controlled substances or associated paraphernalia that are upon the person of the student or within his control.

In determining whether a person was acting within the exceptions provided in this subsection, due deference shall be given to reasonable judgments that were made by a teacher, teacher aide, principal, assistant principal, guidance counselor, school security officer, school bus driver, or school bus aide at the time of the event.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Raskull ()
Date: August 11, 2013 08:40AM

><<><><><>< Wrote:
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> Raskull Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Loudoun Native Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > raskull Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You should watch the video of the press
> > > > conference. When Plowman says the deputies
> > were
> > > > "justified" in their actions, Sheriff
> Chapman
> > > > looks down and you see his face cringe.
> > Sheriff
> > > > Chapman knows his deputies screwed-up and
> his
> > > body
> > > > language shows it.
> > > The triggerman is deputy foster. He'll get a
> > > hero's welcome when he returns to duty. I
> hope
> > > this eats him from the inside out for the
> rest
> > of
> > > his life.
> >
> > If we're lucky deputy foster will give his Glock
> a
> > blowjob!
> >
> > If you read the report, there were 5 deputies
> at
> > CostCo, 3 holstered their tazers BEFORE the
> > situation was under control. That is not SOP in
> > such a situation and is most likely a violation
> of
> > policy! But this is Loudoun, deputies are NEVER
> > disciplend when they violate policy or break
> the
> > law BECAUSE THEY ANSWER TO AN elected OFFICIAL
> WHO
> > CAN NOT BE FIRED OR REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY ANY
> ONE
> > (he can be arrested, BUT only by a state or
> county
> > coronor and no one else)!
> >
> > IN OTHER WORDS, DEPUTIES ANSWER TO NO ONE AND
> THEY
> > KNOW THIS!
> >
> > In the Carlos Garcia case, Mr. Garcia was
> tackled
> > to the ground by a deputy, knocked-out when his
> > head hit the ground, then charged with assault
> on
> > a deputy! WTF? The other deputies on the scene
> DID
> > NOT report the charges against Mr. Garcia were
> > false. IT IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW FOR LAW
> > ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS NOT REPORTING THAT CHARGES
> > AGAINST A PERSON ARE FALSE! NO DEPUTY WAS EVER
> > CHARGED OR FIRED! Loudoun needs to change to a
> > poLICE department with a poLICE cheif who can
> be
> > FIRED if officers get out of line!
>
> Assault is also considered touching of the officer
> (or a person for that matter).
>
> § 18.2-57. Assault and battery.
>
> A. Any person who commits a simple assault or
> assault and battery is guilty of a Class 1
> misdemeanor, and if the person intentionally
> selects the person against whom a simple assault
> is committed because of his race, religious
> conviction, color or national origin, the penalty
> upon conviction shall include a term of
> confinement of at least six months, 30 days of
> which shall be a mandatory minimum term of
> confinement.
>
> B. However, if a person intentionally selects the
> person against whom an assault and battery
> resulting in bodily injury is committed because of
> his race, religious conviction, color or national
> origin, the person is guilty of a Class 6 felony,
> and the penalty upon conviction shall include a
> term of confinement of at least six months, 30
> days of which shall be a mandatory minimum term of
> confinement.
>
> C. In addition, if any person commits an assault
> or an assault and battery against another knowing
> or having reason to know that such other person is
> a judge, a magistrate, a law-enforcement officer
> as defined in subsection F, a correctional officer
> as defined in § 53.1-1, a person directly
> involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of
> inmates in the custody of the Department of
> Corrections or an employee of a local or regional
> correctional facility directly involved in the
> care, treatment, or supervision of inmates in the
> custody of the facility, a person directly
> involved in the care, treatment, or supervision of
> persons in the custody of or under the supervision
> of the Department of Juvenile Justice, an employee
> or other individual who provides control, care, or
> treatment of sexually violent predators committed
> to the custody of the Department of Behavioral
> Health and Developmental Services, a firefighter
> as defined in § 65.2-102, or a volunteer
> firefighter or any emergency medical services
> personnel member who is employed by or is a
> volunteer of an emergency medical services agency
> or as a member of a bona fide volunteer fire
> department or volunteer emergency medical services
> agency, regardless of whether a resolution has
> been adopted by the governing body of a political
> subdivision recognizing such firefighters or
> emergency medical services personnel as employees,
> engaged in the performance of his public duties,
> such person is guilty of a Class 6 felony, and,
> upon conviction, the sentence of such person shall
> include a mandatory minimum term of confinement of
> six months.
>
> Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to
> affect the right of any person charged with a
> violation of this section from asserting and
> presenting evidence in support of any defenses to
> the charge that may be available under common law.
>
>
> D. In addition, if any person commits a battery
> against another knowing or having reason to know
> that such other person is a full-time or part-time
> teacher, principal, assistant principal, or
> guidance counselor of any public or private
> elementary or secondary school and is engaged in
> the performance of his duties as such, he is
> guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor and the sentence
> of such person upon conviction shall include a
> sentence of 15 days in jail, two days of which
> shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement.
> However, if the offense is committed by use of a
> firearm or other weapon prohibited on school
> property pursuant to § 18.2-308.1, the person
> shall serve a mandatory minimum sentence of
> confinement of six months.
>
> E. In addition, any person who commits a battery
> against another knowing or having reason to know
> that such individual is a health care provider as
> defined in § 8.01-581.1 who is engaged in the
> performance of his duties as an emergency health
> care provider in an emergency room of a hospital
> or clinic or on the premises of any other facility
> rendering emergency medical care is guilty of a
> Class 1 misdemeanor. The sentence of such person,
> upon conviction, shall include a term of
> confinement of 15 days in jail, two days of which
> shall be a mandatory minimum term of confinement.
>
>
> F. As used in this section:
>
> "Judge" means any justice or judge of a court of
> record of the Commonwealth including a judge
> designated under § 17.1-105, a judge under
> temporary recall under § 17.1-106, or a judge pro
> tempore under § 17.1-109, any member of the State
> Corporation Commission, or of the Virginia
> Workers' Compensation Commission, and any judge of
> a district court of the Commonwealth or any
> substitute judge of such district court.
>
> "Law-enforcement officer" means any full-time or
> part-time employee of a police department or
> sheriff's office that is part of or administered
> by the Commonwealth or any political subdivision
> thereof who is responsible for the prevention or
> detection of crime and the enforcement of the
> penal, traffic or highway laws of the
> Commonwealth, any conservation officer of the
> Department of Conservation and Recreation
> commissioned pursuant to § 10.1-115, any special
> agent of the Department of Alcoholic Beverage
> Control, conservation police officers appointed
> pursuant to § 29.1-200, and full-time sworn
> members of the enforcement division of the
> Department of Motor Vehicles appointed pursuant to
> § 46.2-217, and such officer also includes jail
> officers in local and regional correctional
> facilities, all deputy sheriffs, whether assigned
> to law-enforcement duties, court services or local
> jail responsibilities, auxiliary police officers
> appointed or provided for pursuant to §§
> 15.2-1731 and 15.2-1733, auxiliary deputy sheriffs
> appointed pursuant to § 15.2-1603, police
> officers of the Metropolitan Washington Airports
> Authority pursuant to § 5.1-158, and fire
> marshals appointed pursuant to § 27-30 when such
> fire marshals have police powers as set out in
> §§ 27-34.2 and 27-34.2:1.
>
> "School security officer" means an individual who
> is employed by the local school board for the
> purpose of maintaining order and discipline,
> preventing crime, investigating violations of
> school board policies and detaining persons
> violating the law or school board policies on
> school property, a school bus or at a
> school-sponsored activity and who is responsible
> solely for ensuring the safety, security and
> welfare of all students, faculty and staff in the
> assigned school.
>
> G. "Simple assault" or "assault and battery" shall
> not be construed to include the use of, by any
> teacher, teacher aide, principal, assistant
> principal, guidance counselor, school security
> officer, school bus driver or school bus aide,
> while acting in the course and scope of his
> official capacity, any of the following: (i)
> incidental, minor or reasonable physical contact
> or other actions designed to maintain order and
> control; (ii) reasonable and necessary force to
> quell a disturbance or remove a student from the
> scene of a disturbance that threatens physical
> injury to persons or damage to property; (iii)
> reasonable and necessary force to prevent a
> student from inflicting physical harm on himself;
> (iv) reasonable and necessary force for
> self-defense or the defense of others; or (v)
> reasonable and necessary force to obtain
> possession of weapons or other dangerous objects
> or controlled substances or associated
> paraphernalia that are upon the person of the
> student or within his control.
>
> In determining whether a person was acting within
> the exceptions provided in this subsection, due
> deference shall be given to reasonable judgments
> that were made by a teacher, teacher aide,
> principal, assistant principal, guidance
> counselor, school security officer, school bus
> driver, or school bus aide at the time of the
> event.


You need to google Carlos Garcia, there's video all over the internet. The guy's standing there talking to another deputy and he's tackled to the ground by deputy terry daniel, then after he's cuffed the deputy steps on his head! Then he's charged with assault on the deputy who slammed him to the groud! Typical

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Loudoun Native ()
Date: August 12, 2013 08:37AM

Another law enforcement/street gang that has lost the support of the public. Not far removed from the Peacekeepers in the Hunger Games.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: The Rumormill ()
Date: August 12, 2013 08:41AM

Jaco Wrote:
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> Nice "pizza cutter"! Just because you are cutting
> pizza with it doesn't mean it's a dull little
> wheel.

That's right, alot of people didn't understand that the "Pizza cutter" was a large knife, not the little rolling kind.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: T ()
Date: August 12, 2013 11:15AM

For the NBC 4 story: http://www.nbcwashington.com/video/#!/news/local/Results-From-Costco-Shooting-Investigation-Released/217832771.

I couldn't find a current story about the judgment on ABC 7's website. No time to dig too deeply to find it.

If it is legally justified to kill a crazy woman with a knife, then the law should change.

For the Carlos Garcia video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVN7s2pkkkI

Last whine: People, post links.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: T ()
Date: August 12, 2013 11:18AM

BTW, I tried to post a link to the Fox 5 story too, but got a message from FU saying "A word you have used in your post has been banned from use. Please use a different word or contact the forum administrators."

Here's a partial of the link (without autostart):

For the Fox 5 News story about the judgment: http://www.myfoxdc.com/video?clipId=9150918.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: wGejd ()
Date: August 12, 2013 02:14PM

The Rumormill Wrote:
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> Jaco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nice "pizza cutter"! Just because you are
> cutting
> > pizza with it doesn't mean it's a dull little
> > wheel.
>
> That's right, alot of people didn't understand
> that the "Pizza cutter" was a large knife, not the
> little rolling kind.


WE do not care if she had a fucking 9 foot spear! There was NO NEED to kill this person, it was a botched job by the police and was criminal.

The police officer should be held accountable for their actions...how quickly they forget that the are paid to PROTECT and SERVE, not over react and be trigger-happy.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Raskull ()
Date: August 19, 2013 12:45PM

wGejd Wrote:
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> The Rumormill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jaco Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Nice "pizza cutter"! Just because you are
> > cutting
> > > pizza with it doesn't mean it's a dull little
> > > wheel.
> >
> > That's right, alot of people didn't understand
> > that the "Pizza cutter" was a large knife, not
> the
> > little rolling kind.
>
>
> WE do not care if she had a fucking 9 foot spear!
> There was NO NEED to kill this person, it was a
> botched job by the police and was criminal.
>
> The police officer should be held accountable for
> their actions...how quickly they forget that the
> are paid to PROTECT and SERVE, not over react and
> be trigger-happy.

It wasn't a poLICE officer (who answers to a poLICE chief, who answers to elected officials who can FIRE the poLICE chief if his officers do something wrong) that murdered this mentally ill woman.

It was a deputy sheriff who answers to an ELECTED official, who can only be removed from office every 4 years by the voters. The deputies in Loudoun understand this very well and know they can get away with anything.

Click the link above in "T"s post to see Carlos Garcia get assaulted by a deputy (who was cleared of all wrong doing by LCSO). Funny thing is Mr.Garcia was charged with assaulting the deputy who violently slams him to the ground, his head hits the ground and then the deputy steps on his head after he's cuffed!

Welcome to te Peoples RepubliK of Loudoun County!

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Raskull ()
Date: October 26, 2013 08:32PM

UPDATE;
In my case, 2 deputies were fired for violation of department policy.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: asdfasdfasdfasd ()
Date: October 27, 2013 04:53AM

Raskull Wrote:
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> UPDATE;
> In my case, 2 deputies were fired for violation of
> department policy.

You're case only right? Not related to this shooting?

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Kojak ()
Date: October 27, 2013 10:17AM

wGejd Wrote:
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> The Rumormill Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jaco Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Nice "pizza cutter"! Just because you are
> > cutting
> > > pizza with it doesn't mean it's a dull little
> > > wheel.
> >
> > That's right, alot of people didn't understand
> > that the "Pizza cutter" was a large knife, not
> the
> > little rolling kind.
>
>
> WE do not care if she had a fucking 9 foot spear!
> There was NO NEED to kill this person, it was a
> botched job by the police and was criminal.
>
> The police officer should be held accountable for
> their actions...how quickly they forget that the
> are paid to PROTECT and SERVE, not over react and
> be trigger-happy.


The store should have been evacuated, let her have her hobo fit, pepper spray her, when she dropped the so called weapon to rub her eyes, BUM RUSH HER. There is no justification possible for shooting a 4' 9" in middle aged lady.
I don't care what they say their training has taught them to do. Their training system has a flaw, just like their taser. She should still be alive!

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: who cares ()
Date: October 27, 2013 10:24AM

you dont bring pepper spray to a knife fight. using spray means you have to be pretty close to a person, under the 21 foot rule. she made her choice, and is dead. get over it, nothing is going to happen. the officers were justified with their use of force and their training. its easy to second guess what you think should of been done when your not a cop, or ever been in a life threatening situation. just a bunch of back seat drivers.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: what galaxy do you live in ()
Date: October 27, 2013 04:59PM

Kojak Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> wGejd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Rumormill Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Jaco Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Nice "pizza cutter"! Just because you are
> > > cutting
> > > > pizza with it doesn't mean it's a dull
> little
> > > > wheel.
> > >
> > > That's right, alot of people didn't
> understand
> > > that the "Pizza cutter" was a large knife,
> not
> > the
> > > little rolling kind.
> >
> >
> > WE do not care if she had a fucking 9 foot
> spear!
> > There was NO NEED to kill this person, it was a
> > botched job by the police and was criminal.
> >
> > The police officer should be held accountable
> for
> > their actions...how quickly they forget that
> the
> > are paid to PROTECT and SERVE, not over react
> and
> > be trigger-happy.
>
>
> The store should have been evacuated, let her have
> her hobo fit, pepper spray her, when she dropped
> the so called weapon to rub her eyes, BUM RUSH
> HER. There is no justification possible for
> shooting a 4' 9" in middle aged lady.
> I don't care what they say their training has
> taught them to do. Their training system has a
> flaw, just like their taser. She should still be
> alive!


Ya.. just like there wouldn't be any justification for killing a 12 year old that brought a gun to school and began killing teachers, your bus is leaving now for fantasy island

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: ricky ()
Date: October 28, 2013 02:05PM

why are people who go to costco so crazy always shooting people and shit

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: De Plane! De Plane! ()
Date: October 28, 2013 02:27PM

what galaxy do you live in Wrote:
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> Ya.. just like there wouldn't be any justification
> for killing a 12 year old that brought a gun to
> school and began killing teachers, your bus is
> leaving now for fantasy island

+100
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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: Deputy Foster ()
Date: May 28, 2015 05:36PM

costco Wrote:
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> A co-worker just told me there is an active
> shooter at the Costco in Sterling.
Yeah it was a cop.

2 year bump.

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Re: Shooter at Costco in Sterling?
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: May 28, 2015 08:02PM

cops are bored Wrote:
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> These suburban cops are just plain bored and
> unprepared when a crime actually occurs.
>
> Seriously, this woman could not have been
> restrained somehow?
>
> They had to shoot and kill her?
>
> Ridiculous.
>
> Reminds me of the kid at IHOP killed for skipping
> out on his bill.


I think this might be true. I’ve thought it several times just by the sheer number that show up for minor incidents. Enough to make you laugh. They look silly.

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