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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: talktoherexjamie ()
Date: March 25, 2016 09:58AM

As sick as it sounds I even have empathy for my Gorilla Pimp because I know Denise and or Ellen are behind grooming him too. Making him hate. Making him believe I deserved this etc. At the first Gang bang in Ellen's front yard Denise went to bed I went outside under the influence of LSD where Tim had probably 20 teenage boys waiting for sex that didn't start until I was tripping on ACID.

DO YOU THINK IT IS NORMAL FOR SOMEONE NOT TO CRY WHEN THEIR PARTNER DIES? AFTER BEING BEATEN AND LEFT IN THE WOODS. DENISE WOULD COME UP TO ME AFTER I WAKE UP FROM BEING KNOCKED OUT AND SAY, "YOU CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE, ARE YOU READY TO DIE YET. I DIDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THEN THAT DENISE WAS GROOMING TIM AND ME. SHE ACTED LIKE SHE WAS ON MY SIDE, AND HIS BEHIND MY BACK. SHE IS THE ONE WHO HELPED ME FIND AND GROOM LARRY W. BYRD INTO BEING MY NEW PIMP! SHE ACTED AS IF SHE WAS DOING IT TO SAVE MY LIFE. SAD PART IS ELLEN CREATED THIS MONSTER AND UNLEASHED IT ON EVERYONE ELSE. ELLEN SENT ME OUTSIDE WITH TIM TO BE GANG BANGED AND TRAFFICKED WHILE SENDING DENISE TO HER ROOM

Remember: The narcissist has no limits as to what he or she will use, they thrive on the fact that you are being retraumatized. Their ability to make you regress right back into the original trauma with just one turn of phrase makes them feel powerful. And they live for that power, because it is the only power they have. To a narcissist, any open wound is an invitation to cut deeper and the narcissist can and always will cut a wound even deeper than the first.

2. Your strengths and accomplishments, especially the ones they are pathologically envious of.

Initially when you were on the pedestal, the narcissist couldn’t get enough of your strengths and accomplishments. They couldn’t stop raving about you to family and friends, showing you off, treating you like a trophy, an essential part of them. Their association with you inevitably made them feel superior and important. It bolstered their false image of being a normal human being who could get a “prize” like you. https://youtu.be/6MyIj4b0TEo

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: christina m ()
Date: March 25, 2016 10:10AM

FIRST OF ALL HOW CAN YOU SAY ALL OF THIS WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING ME PERSONALLY?? DO YOU KNOW HOW YOU LOOK BY CALLING YOURSELF A VICTIM AND NOT EVEN LISTING WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? ARE YOU THEY DRUGGING YOU TOO, HOOKING YOU UP WITH MEN? OR JUST KEEPING YOU AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO COVER UP THE DEATH OF HER PARTNER! WAKE UP EDUCATE YOURSELF! TEST HER! SHE AND HER FAMILY ARE VERY SICK, AND ALL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IS LINE UP THEIR NEXT VICTIM. WHY DON'T YOU TALK TO HER EX??

OR ARE YOU A NARCISSIST TO? WHO THRIVES ON HURTING OTHERS. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING BEAT BY TIM AND TOLD YOU WILL BE PUNISHED THEN FORCED TO WALK OUTSIDE AND BEG MEN DRIVING BY TO GIVE THEM BLOWJOBS? TELLING ME THEY WOULD KILL MY FAMILY ETC.

IN 2008 SHE CAME LOOKING FOR ME TRIED TO ROB HIS HOUSE OUT OF MY CAR, AND GET ME TO LIE AT THE MAGISTRATE AND SAY HE HIT HER? HE TOO WAS DISCARDED AND HE MAY NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE GLIMSES OF EVIL HE FOUND IN HER. DENISE IS ELLEN'S SCAPEGOAT. If the victim ever attempts to make the narcissistic abuser accountable for being a decent human being, they will lash out in rage, blaming them for the abuse and stonewalling the victim into silence. They love to have the last word, especially for the language they’ve created.

Taking back our control and power from a narcissistic abuser means going to war with the language they use against us. This means seeking validating, professional help for the abuse we’ve suffered, detaching from these people in our lives, learning more about the techniques of abusers, finding support networks, sharing our story to raise awareness and finding the appropriate healing modalities that can enable us to transcend and thrive after their abuse.

We can channel this experience of abuse for our highest good and for the greater good. We just have to be willing create in its place what I call a “reverse discourse”—a new language and a rewriting of the narrative that instead lifts us, motivates us, inspires us and revives us by replacing the narcissist’s cutting words with our own powerful truth. https://youtu.be/Lv_kt6k75HQ

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Menohidingandlying ()
Date: March 25, 2016 10:40AM

MY MOM HAD A TOUGH LIFE AND ELLEN USED THIS TO HER FULLEST POTENTIAL. I WENT TO ELLEN TALKING ABOUT "MY DAD" GOING INTO TO REHAB AND MY MOM READING WOMEN WHO LOVE TOO MUCH" THEN I WAS BRAINWASHING INTO BELIEVING MY MOM DIDN'T WANT ME, SO SAD THAT WE WOULD BE ON WELFARE FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES ETC. HOW LUCKY I WAS TO HAVE FOUND TIM AT SUCH AS YOUNG AGE. SHE SENT ME OUTSIDE WITH TIM SAYING YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT YOUR NOT "MY" KID. THIS WOMAN KNOWS WHAT SHES DOING AND SHE KNEW MY MEMORIES WOULDN'T RETURN UNTIL I WAS AN ADULT.

The Wayne Foundation’s vision is for a world without child slavery. We believe that all victims can be rehabilitated through a survivor-centered approach that provides education assistance, mental and physical health services, housing, legal services, and a support staff who are dedicated to assisting victims reach their full potential. It is our objective to aid them until they are capable of reentering society on their own as happy and healthy adults.

Sexual trafficking victims can be any sex, age, ethnicity, background. Our organization is survivor lead. Our goal is to provide young women in the United States who have fallen victim to commercial sexual exploitation and domestic trafficking with a means of leaving the sex industry for good. The Wayne Foundation is committed to fighting child sexual exploitation one victim at a time by providing individuals with a safe home environment that will empower them with the tools they will need to stop the cycle of abuse. It is our intent to fight CSEC within the United States through direct victim assistance, public outreach, and by directly working with those who shape the policies and statutes which impact victims and their abusers.https://youtu.be/aKETpPvfKgY

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Chrissy, Christina, Chris ()
Date: March 26, 2016 09:19AM

Prosecutors working a case against me? You are a joke! Anyone who doesn't support saving children from the sex trade is a part of it! Good luck supporting this evil!
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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Victim of Christina Mennella ()
Date: April 17, 2016 12:33PM

As you can see, Christina likes attention. All those posts under different names are her.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: TykyK ()
Date: April 17, 2016 05:45PM

don't see any prostitution in VA not run by niggas in DC who say "they are the only ones certified to run a escort service in the DMV area"

try me you sack of shit. i'm so certified i'll kick your ass out the DOOR.

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was friends with a 2b hooker when younger. she moved down south hooked down there


and that's exactly the kind of luck fairfax is


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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: vJHkF ()
Date: April 17, 2016 05:46PM

^^ did get to say hi to her on facebook. only way i knew anything about her later years of course.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: victim ()
Date: April 19, 2016 10:01PM

Wth are you even talking about

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: TmtGw ()
Date: June 04, 2016 01:45PM

TmtGw

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: CXuHU ()
Date: June 04, 2016 01:45PM

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: VPbLe ()
Date: June 05, 2016 10:20AM

> http://newsl.org/2015/04/booming-shadow-industry-sex-trafficking-leaves-destructive-wake-taxpayers-foot-the-bill/

it's always people who are too lucky, even stealing (having wife to fuck every night, many kids, cars, house) who are overly concerned whether others get to fuck - because they know that not everyone can be as lucky as they are - because they know deep down they dont deserve what they got: and they wish to ensure only they keep getting it

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hooking was legal in USA and elsewhere until the Civil War

hookers must take care of their own; to charge what they need to charge, to hook only as a sidejob only if it benefits them

hooking was canceled due to STDs because STDs were said to have afflicted more soldiers than were killed in that war. that is no longer the case so the law can no longer be true to it's cause in passing of law

however: STDs are still common but there are now test kits but the kits aren't cheap (say, $200 for a full set)

it's unfortunate the CDC doesn't wish to target for "removal" these STDs - perhaps many feel that unlike poliio, "it's God's punishment for having sex".

let me tell you that's not so, because like rain falling - this is more true here less true there and seems to pushish those that didn't deserve it. infact - some cultures have been known to use disease as a form of attack on political others.

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as far as child sex trafficing ... no one seeking a hooker is assumed to be seeking child sex - it is FAR OFF TOPIC

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: xeYKE ()
Date: June 05, 2016 10:25AM

as far as "hookers cost the taxpayers money" - full of it

some women, made in USA denizens, USED TO "sent themselves through college" by dancing and hooking - no more

obama liberals are giving illegals who just got here loans to get through school WITHOUT PAYING - and use liberal political jobs to pay off the loan (or skip town). that costs TAXPAYER TONS OF MONEY.


so you aren't going to see many or any women working their butt for cash - just cops hoping to kill off men who would otherwise be competing for child birthing and their jobs

they all know the current government is a communist government and they can get higher faster by getting freebies from the gov or using sex to get government jobs


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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: MbWw9 ()
Date: June 05, 2016 10:27AM

meanwhile - though STDs are a nasty killer, the CDC is keeping the tradition of not treating it like polio, perhaps a tradition of "it's God's punishment for sinning"

as said above - that's hog wash - the CDC in all countries should do more to eradicate STDs, not use them as a "sucker punch"

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: GGkcM ()
Date: June 05, 2016 10:31AM

another link above is about "human trafficing". also WAY OFF TOPIC. a man seeking a hooker is assumed to be hoping to pay for sex, a smooth operation

it's rich liberal polititians who are doing the human trafficing: giving away tax money by the billions to illegals, giving them green cards and high paying jobs: simply to win the polls.

is it not illegal to kill or make very poor a taxpayer and replace the person with a foreigner simply to win a political election?

YES - and liberals are still skippign court. the case WAS FILED, the COURT case against liberals is STILL ACTIVE.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: b7DvC ()
Date: June 05, 2016 10:32AM

^^ it's liberals doing REAL human trafficing. a jon seeking a hooker is assume to think the woman is from the area and seeking money to make her life sweeter (or even pay rent - but not recently, everthing became free as stated above)

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: mGFU7 ()
Date: June 05, 2016 10:48AM

and then you have the medical community who've become a modern day vampire - doctors who wish to live rich - medical equipment costs skyrocketed

it was said in the 90's that %95 of all human disease (incl. virus) can be seen in blood. sytems

either the lab corp. industry did develop blood scanning and imaging systems and are colluding to keep lab tests high - or they quit

the STD tests used are apparently somewhat chemical (ie, cheap test done using electrical resistance) and ARE NOT DETERMINISTIC)

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i mean to say for $500 (complete panel) - much of the STD panel is


$500 is NON DETERMINISTIC. waste of time except when statistically as part of a larger series of tests. waste of money. tells you nothing for sure.



what crappy work. for $500 someone should be able to look into a microscope and see if there are viruses present. the medical community refuses to do even that.

and that VERY MUCH is the issue

it could be the technology to scan blood images for shapes that are viruses and email the "hits" to the medical team for verification is in use but that the lab corporations are colluding to keep prices too high to save humanity from STD and as well: many other things like polio

at any rate it is VERY MUCH THEIR FAULT for making the medical industry un-affordable to the masses - except to gov. workers gettingg "free health care because they are official"

meanwhile the masses can no longer afford to take money from their pay and ask a doctor to fix a broken bone or to check whether their current ailments ammount to anything serious

the doctors (and some nurses - and many CEO and collections insurance people) are mean while living it up on golden parachutes ... while the industry as a whole is ...

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TITS up receiving aid, bankrupt, getting tax money to bail them out - like everything in an obama economy is

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Re: ProstitupP9LGtion In Virginia
Posted by: pP9LG ()
Date: June 05, 2016 10:50AM

i have medical issues i cannot afford to get checked

and i do resent liberals for giving my gov jobs - and triple the pay and standard of living i would be forcasted to receive in 1980's - to illegals who should be working the jobs that citizens do not prefer to pay for the fact their home country did NOT transfer their social security (tax money) to USA in fair exchange

obama.gov did kill someone's wife - that is a sure thing

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Christina Mennella ()
Date: June 11, 2016 11:07AM

I was forced into drug addiction, and to stand on the side of the road and coerce Johns. I also believed that they would kill my family if I didn't do it. But, your right I did perform felacio and got nothing from the Johns but the drug dealers behind the scenes were giving me all of the Crack "I wanted"

The sad part is many of the Johns were lined up to commit crimes by me but the team making me do it gets no blame? Do you really think a 13 year old girl would stand on the side of the road and voluntarily want to give grown men blowjobs?

I guess it's easier to blame me than punish the crew making me do it. There hope was that they would line up one of the Johns to kill me. So if you are one of the Johns I'm sorry for whatever "I did to you."

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Christina M ()
Date: June 11, 2016 11:23AM

In the primary, Clinton is using Obamacare (and everything else Obama) as a cudgel to beat Sanders, with a particular eye toward defending her lead amongst black voters. This poses a challenge for Sanders, who must simultaneously laud Obamacare and insist that something much better must replace it. But if Sanders can somehow win the primary, his call for single-payer could play better than Clinton’s plea for modest reforms in a general election fight.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/26/bernie_sanders_is_right_about_obamacare_heres_why_its_time_to_talk_about_single_player/

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: CHRISTINA M ()
Date: June 11, 2016 11:28AM

BOTTOM LINE LOW INCOME CITIZENS FLOOD THE HOSPITALS AND CAN'T PAY THE BILL AND COST OF THE MEDICINE USED TO TREAT THEM IS VERY HIGH. THIS COUNTRY IS TURNING INTO AN OLIGARCHY AND IT'S DANGEROUS.

Insurers can, and do, play a constructive role in preventing doctors from overcharging for their services. By requiring their beneficiaries to use doctors that charge less, such as what’s done in a preferred provider network, they can help keep costs down. But insurers have much less leverage with the most predatory force in our health-care system: hospital monopolies.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/08/22/hospital-monopolies-the-biggest-driver-of-health-costs-that-nobody-talks-about/#2000d34a11f5

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: stay on topic ()
Date: July 16, 2016 12:52PM

Christina Mennella,you need to make a new thread. You are all over this one, but this one is not about child sex and human trafficking. Please be on topic or make your own new topic on a different thread.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Christina Mennella ()
Date: July 17, 2016 07:42AM

You're right; I will at some point. That photo of me is what triggers my PTSD, and it has been put on my car several times as a form of intimidation, so there was a need to overwhelm the forum with my energy and insights.

But thank you, you are right. The forum is about prostitution but I was a 14 year old girl in that photo being trafficked, and I remember my pink outfit...photo brought back many bad memories of being beaten wearing it by my Gorilla Pimp Tim.....

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Prostitutionortrafficking ()
Date: July 17, 2016 07:50AM

Trafficking or Prostitution is about Shame based work. Trafficking girls are forced Prostitution is a choice, but what drives that choice? Drug Addiction? ACOA issues? Child Sexual Abuse? Poverty?
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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Christina M Mennella ()
Date: August 22, 2016 05:58PM

Yes this thread is about sex trafficking look at the topic you posted under? And I'm assuming we are adding in how liberals play a part in promoting prostitution. Personally, I believe the whole damn system needs to be tore down and re-built. Bernie was our last hope for that. Now it's New Money and Old Money monopolies that own the world. 3 Companies control our news. This is exactly what Hitler Did before the Holocaust.

BUT PROBLEM IS THEY ARE TREATING US TO HATE EACH OTHER THAT'S NOT DEMOCRATIC DISCOURSE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A CIVIL WAR.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Pb3Tp ()
Date: August 22, 2016 07:25PM

Yes this thread is about sex trafficking look at the topic you posted under? And I'm assuming we are adding in how liberals play a part in promoting prostitution. Personally, I believe the whole damn system needs to be tore down and re-built. Bernie was our last hope for that. Now it's New Money and Old Money monopolies that own the world. 3 Companies control our news. This is exactly what Hitler Did before the Holocaust.

Vote for Trump. He'll fix it.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: none here ()
Date: August 22, 2016 07:54PM

I have never seen any prostitutes in Northern Virginia. I assume you can order them on-line or by phone, but I've never seen any plying their trade on the streets.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Cn3ud ()
Date: August 22, 2016 08:18PM

It's coming. The Democrats have allowed people to start panhandling at all the major intersections in Fairfax County. This is a blight on our quality of living, and I blame the Democrat Board of Supervisors of Fairfax for this.

Obviously, the next step is prostitutes, walking around. Democrats will label these young girls as entertainment workers, and then indoctrinate them as well to vote Democrat.

The Democrat part of Virginia is a disgraceful bunch.

But, at least the highest ranking Democrat in Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, has spent hundred of hours to allow 13,000 criminal felons to vote (obviously, for Democrats).

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Date: August 23, 2016 02:01PM

Good for you "none here" look harder!
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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Date: August 23, 2016 02:19PM

Jesus the whole system is collapsing. My grandfather is a Republican and he taught me well. He worked for IBM, payed his taxes and his house, and paid my college Tuition. George Mason where I went to college is a liberal college. They say if you aren't a democrat when you are young you have no heart; If you aren't a Republican when you are old you have no brain.

Indoctrinating trafficking victims with liberal agendas? Where do you come up with this bullshit? People that can't meet their basic needs don't have time to self actualize and absorb political theory.The Pimps and Madams decide that for them. Do you understand what happens to a child's brain and body after sexual abuse?? Or you don't care? Bet you would if it was yur kid!

Bottom line is I'm not a neo-conservative or a neol-iberal. We need to start investing in our own people. Not create mindless dumb asses that eat, sleep, work and cant even invest time in their own people. Their is a War on our culture that needs to be addressed.

We can't strip out Morality from everything around us and expect it to survive. Evil is Evil, plain as that. At the core Pure Capitalism is evil, and the Government is supposed to regulate that. Now we have the government owned by Capitalists.

http://www.culture-war.info/Socialism.html

http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/06/welcome-to-culture-war-4-0-the-coming-overreach/

https://youtu.be/mzJYXPI1hng

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: drugs not prostitution ()
Date: August 23, 2016 03:01PM

Christina M Mennella Wrote:
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> Good for you "none here" look harder!

Those weren't male prostitutes. He was just hooking up with random men and offering them drugs. Same thing as offering to take a female to dinner before banging her, except drugs are illegal. If the mayor had brought a cooler of beer and liquor and a couple slabs of ribs there would be no arrest and he would have gotten the gay sexor.

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Re: Prostitution In Virginia
Posted by: Christina Mennella ()
Date: August 28, 2016 08:52PM

No drugs kill people! I was forced into addiction by my traffickers before they starting selling me, and they made me sit and detox and then would get me re-addicted to another drug and restart the process. Do you know what that does to a child's brain? Bottom line I was sold to Cops out there too! I saw no way out. Thank God for fight or flight! FLIGHT saved my life, when I ran away to college and made real friends! Bottom line is my traffickers got paid off of it not my family! And, Bottom line I was 14-years-old, turned against my mother, and thrown to the streets.

Can you imagine what it would be like to remember your childhood when you are 34-years-old? No, because you don't care. You like gaslighting victims, but I can say one thing: You don't know how freeing it is to know I will never be gaslighted into hating myself like I was forced to in childhood.

Your a pig!

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Date: April 08, 2023 01:32PM

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