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guns question-non political
Posted by: skav ()
Date: March 31, 2013 08:05AM

I am helping someone dispose of some guns left as part of an estate. Included are several long guns and handguns. Most are vintage/antique. Some military. With the understanding that evaluating such things is nuanced, what are some good websites to look up comparables? Additionally, are there any people or businesses who do on-site appraisals?

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: GettinOld ()
Date: March 31, 2013 11:37AM

Forums.gunboards.com for the military pieces. There are several forums, dedicated to different military arms, and a lot of knowledge. You will need clear overall photos and some of the markings for proper estimates. You can also watch auctions on gunbroker.com to see what comparables are selling for.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: TriggerTime ()
Date: March 31, 2013 11:57AM

You might try calling local gun shops and asking if you can bring
them in for an estimate. I inherited an old shotgun from my step-dad
and it was in extremely poor condition and worthless except for scrap
metal. Even though it wouldn't fire I wasn't about to put it in the
trash so I called the cops and asked. They told me to schedule a time
and I could bring it to them for proper disposal. No problem.

I would also recommend you talk to a licensed dealer with a storefront.
A friend of mine inherited a shotgun, rifle, and a pistol from his father
in law and he was sucked in by a "friend of a friend" who took him to the
cleaners. He offered $300.00 for all three and my friend accepted. Unfortunately,
the shotgun was a Browning Auto-5 (late 40's vintage) in perfect condition.
I would have paid $300.00 for the shotgun alone and felt like I was
cheating my friend. Let the seller beware in this case.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: GettinOld ()
Date: March 31, 2013 12:05PM

TriggerTime Wrote:
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> You might try calling local gun shops and asking
> if you can bring
> them in for an estimate. I inherited an old
> shotgun from my step-dad
> and it was in extremely poor condition and
> worthless except for scrap
> metal. Even though it wouldn't fire I wasn't about
> to put it in the
> trash so I called the cops and asked. They told me
> to schedule a time
> and I could bring it to them for proper disposal.
> No problem.
>
> I would also recommend you talk to a licensed
> dealer with a storefront.
> A friend of mine inherited a shotgun, rifle, and
> a pistol from his father
> in law and he was sucked in by a "friend of a
> friend" who took him to the
> cleaners. He offered $300.00 for all three and myv
> friend accepted. Unfortunately,
> the shotgun was a Browning Auto-5 (late 40's
> vintage) in perfect condition.
> I would have paid $300.00 for the shotgun alone
> and felt like I was
> cheating my friend. Let the seller beware in this
> case.


A lot of dealers will take you to the cleaners, as well. I've watched dealers ream people at shows and in their shops. Remember, they are in business to make money, not to give you the best price for your stuff. Best to do your own homework. Agreed, it's a seller beware world.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Interested buyer ()
Date: March 31, 2013 12:20PM

Hey! What are the Models ? I'm interested in adding to my collection. Private sales are legal in Virginia. Post some photos!

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Joe B ()
Date: March 31, 2013 12:21PM

Have them melted down, all you need in life is a shotgun

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Same ()
Date: March 31, 2013 12:26PM

Interested buyer Wrote:
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> Hey! What are the Models ? I'm interested in
> adding to my collection. Private sales are legal
> in Virginia. Post some photos!

Same here

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: SamAdam79 ()
Date: March 31, 2013 12:47PM

Yes, please post photos or at least list the models that you have.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Liberal Logic 102 ()
Date: March 31, 2013 01:28PM

Most dealers will try and rip you off especially in this area. Buds Gun shop in Kentucky and Albermarle Firearms in Charlottesville are two I know of that actually do offer fair value for things and both have websites. At the very least if they gave you an appraisal it would give you a starting point trying to determine the value, but posting pictures on a gun forum was also a very good suggestion.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Anneal ()
Date: March 31, 2013 06:11PM

If you sell them to a gun dealer they will only give you 50 percent of their retail price. Sell them on consignment instead. The gun shop will only collect a 15 percent fee. I recommend Virginia Arms Company in Manassas.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Joe B ()
Date: March 31, 2013 06:31PM

Find out what it is worth before you put it on consignment. Set a reserve price. I am also curious as to what type of firearms this might be.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: skav ()
Date: March 31, 2013 07:54PM

Thanks for the input. While not versed in guns, the secondary market works the same way for most collectible items. The goal is to sell to more of an end-user than someone who is simply looking to resell, if that's your business. Clearly, a local b&m gun dealer is probably a poor choice for value. Interest in guns is always steady,and being employed by an estate to help dispose of them at a fair price I needed some way of checking the checkers:those who have already given me assessments. I will use the sites mentioned to do so. I knew from readling some of the other gun debate threads on FFXU some real knowledge could be tapped. I appreciate it. As for posting any listing or photos,my better judgment thinks that probably isn't real smart. Thanks again.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Liberal Logic 102 ()
Date: March 31, 2013 08:29PM

Anneal Wrote:
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> If you sell them to a gun dealer they will only
> give you 50 percent of their retail price. Sell
> them on consignment instead. The gun shop will
> only collect a 15 percent fee. I recommend
> Virginia Arms Company in Manassas.


Depends where you sell. The places I listed give more then 50 percent, youd be lucky to get 50 from around here. Usually you get offered 200 for a 500 dollar handgun

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Rute Boye ()
Date: March 31, 2013 08:29PM

I agree that many dealers are going to try to rip you off. They are in the buisness of making a profit, not paying you a fair price. Consignments are an OK way to go, but you need to name an informed price and selling the gun may take many months.

If it were me, I would sell off any guns that (law abiding, Virgina resident) friends or relatives particularly wanted, and then auction the rest. There is an auction house near Culpeper that frequently has fun & sporting good actions, including one on April 6 and again on April 20. You might want to give them a try. I have no connection to the company. Here's their website:

http://www.petesauctionservice.com/

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Curmudgeon ()
Date: April 01, 2013 07:30AM

Gunbroker.com

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: sold to highest bidder ()
Date: April 01, 2013 08:16AM

Sell where the market has the customers with highest incomes. That would be NoVa where you can still sell a gun without too much hassle. If you go to the gun shows at Dulles and also at Richmond you will see the difference in prices for the same guns and ammo. The sellers up here know the customers are usually upper to middle class and have more disposable income

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: 9KK3n ()
Date: April 01, 2013 11:47AM

Maybe if you asked dealers to give you a written appraisal, maybe even paying them a fee for their time, you might get a more realistic estimate of their value. They might be less inclined to low-ball you if they have to hand you a document you can show other dealers and customers. Also, some manufacturers have information on their own web sites that might be useful. Also, be sure to find out what the laws are in your area about transporting weapons. You don't want to get pulled over for something trivial and have the cop see a bunch of shotguns in your passenger seat. Locked in a case in your trunk is smart, even if it's not legally required.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Anneal ()
Date: April 01, 2013 08:32PM

When a retail store offers you 50 percent of what they would sell if for that isn't a "ripoff." It's standard practice for businesses to sell merchandise for double the wholesale price. This is true for new or used items. When you add in rent, electricity, employee wages, loan payments, taxes, etc. that only leaves a 10-15 percent profit. If you want to receive retail prices for your items then you have to sell them to another individual.

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Re: guns question-non political
Posted by: Gun Broker ()
Date: April 01, 2013 10:21PM

9KK3n Wrote:
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> Maybe if you asked dealers to give you a written
> appraisal, maybe even paying them a fee for their
> time, you might get a more realistic estimate of
> their value. They might be less inclined to
> low-ball you if they have to hand you a document
> you can show other dealers and customers...


Won't make any difference. They'll still only give you some much smaller max percentage of the appraised retail value. Just like a jeweler or any other similar sale. You won't get anywhere near what something is appraised at. The only exception will be in the case of very rare and high-value items.

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