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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: doesnt make sense ()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:03PM

The kid passed him in the hallway?

Sounds like the guy was hiding somewhere.

Too bad the dead cant speak.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Voice O' Reason ()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:10PM

I'm definitely in favor of strong gun control policies and I'm dissapointed that gun violence has taken yet another young life... but if you break into to someone else's house -intoxicated or not- at two in the morning you're begging to get hurt.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: The rest of the story? ()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:26PM

So sad but... Wrote:
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>
> The homeowner will live for the rest of his life
> knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> own.
>

Who cleans up the blood in a situation such as this?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:33PM

The rest of the story? Wrote:
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> > Who cleans up the blood in a situation such as
> this?

Homeowners insurance usually

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: snowdenscold ()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:02PM

I don't understand all the people who are reading this story anachronistically. Sure we know now that there was no criminal intent and that he was in the wrong house, but why would you force that knowledge upon the homeowner during the events in question?

Of all the home break-ins, how many involve criminal intent, and how many are pure accidents? A million to one? Must be easy to write from the comfort and security of your keyboard how you would have reacted calmly, dispassionately, and with the safety of the intruder as your first priority.

To ignore an alarm system and warning shots makes this an open and shut, albeit tragic, case.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: James ()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:08PM

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> I don't understand all the people who are reading
> this story anachronistically. Sure we know
> now that there was no criminal intent and
> that he was in the wrong house, but why would you
> force that knowledge upon the homeowner during the
> events in question?
>
> Of all the home break-ins, how many involve
> criminal intent, and how many are pure accidents?
> A million to one? Must be easy to write from the
> comfort and security of your keyboard how you
> would have reacted calmly, dispassionately, and
> with the safety of the intruder as your first
> priority.
>
> To ignore an alarm system and warning shots
> makes this an open and shut, albeit tragic, case.


Its not a "million to one". You never hear about the ones that do happen unless someone is shot. On a typical weekend night some drunk tries to get into someone else's house in just about every large city/county/town.

The boy was so drunk and/or high on PCP that he did not hear any alarm ringing or aware that a shot was fired.

What will be revealed is that his friends basically poured him into the wrong house through the window. It will all be revealed when the investigation is done.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: misinformation ()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:24PM

Dirty Harry will say whatever he needs to say to avoid charges.

who can verify this warning shot? nobody. It is illogical to think that the kid ignored it.

This guy was hiding and shot at him several times.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Tyrone Jackson ()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:36PM

Justice will be done. Black power, black power. Fuck you honkies.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Please.. ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:26AM

Hey Tyrone, please jump through some white guy's window tonight and tell him that in person :)

And I believe black power lost this time.

Honky 1
Black Power 0

@misinformation-were you there? Do you have the full police report? Were you on the phone with the 911 operator? Exactly what information do you have? I'm guessing none, so, please, follow Tyrone's lead tongiht and let's make it; Honkies 3 DUmbasses 0

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Cigarette lighter 1916 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:35AM

Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> HERO!
>
> End of story...............

Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots a kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward would call this wannabe a hero.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Another Fine American ()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:03AM

Cigarette lighter 1916 Wrote:
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> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > HERO!
> >
> > End of story...............
>
> Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots a
> kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward
> would call this wannabe a hero.


Mr. Donald West Wilder II is a true American HERO! Any gentleman who is willing to get out of bed when house alarm sounds, remove his .40 caliper Glock and confront a inebriated 16 year old black boy who is disoriented and shoot him should be awarded a national defense medal. We need more heros like Mr. Wilder II
to protect homes,property and second marriages from these heathen misguided teenagers that every generation since the beginning of time has encountered.
Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid away when you could of pushed him back down the steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in Sterling Virginia.
You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the word. Saving lives one night and destroying them the next.
I'm proud of you, Sir

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:26AM

I guess it's all about how you interpret the info. I read that he grabbed his gun and went to investigate, at this point he encounters someone coming up the stairs, he warns the person to leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning shot, person keeps coming and he is backing away while still warning him. The new info the realeased says the intruder passed him and headed for the room where his family was.

I interpret that to mean that as he was confronting this person on the stairs he fired a warning shot and he moved back away from the stairs and down the other side of the hallway, kid comes to top of stairs and turns right/left (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as he was backing away), at this point the intruder is now advancing towards the room wher his family is and he is on the other side of the hallway and shoots before the intruder can get to that bedroom.

The point is that none of where there and you can play it out in your head all you want but we just don't know enough to really judge him. I sure hope you never get called for jury duty, you people probably think it is your "duty" to vote guilty.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:27AM

The point is that none of us* where there....

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Beaver Cleaver ()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:55AM

Assuming the kid (intruder) is drunk and thinks its his own house, the story outlined makes reasonably good sense. The kid is insistent on getting upstairs to find and help protect his family. Same with the homeowne trying to stop him. Only question is why doesn't the kid yell something like "dad", "mom", to help the homeowner understand this might not actually be a life-threatening break-in, but then again the kid is too drunk to understand this is not his own home (from his time outside the home, to his breaking-in, and then to his heading up the stairs even after a warning shot).

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:56AM

BB*X Wrote:
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> I guess it's all about how you interpret the info.
> I read that he grabbed his gun and went to
> investigate, at this point he encounters someone
> coming up the stairs, he warns the person to
> leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning shot,
> person keeps coming and he is backing away while
> still warning him. The new info the realeased
> says the intruder passed him and headed for the
> room where his family was.
>
> I interpret that to mean that as he was
> confronting this person on the stairs he fired a
> warning shot and he moved back away from the
> stairs and down the other side of the hallway, kid
> comes to top of stairs and turns right/left
> (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as he
> was backing away), at this point the intruder is
> now advancing towards the room wher his family is
> and he is on the other side of the hallway and
> shoots before the intruder can get to that
> bedroom.
>
> The point is that none of where there and you can
> play it out in your head all you want but we just
> don't know enough to really judge him. I sure
> hope you never get called for jury duty, you
> people probably think it is your "duty" to vote
> guilty.


so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the back now? o_0

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: On the cover of the ()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:03AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> BB*X Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess it's all about how you interpret the
> info.
> > I read that he grabbed his gun and went to
> > investigate, at this point he encounters
> someone
> > coming up the stairs, he warns the person to
> > leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning
> shot,
> > person keeps coming and he is backing away
> while
> > still warning him. The new info the realeased
> > says the intruder passed him and headed for the
> > room where his family was.
> >
> > I interpret that to mean that as he was
> > confronting this person on the stairs he fired
> a
> > warning shot and he moved back away from the
> > stairs and down the other side of the hallway,
> kid
> > comes to top of stairs and turns right/left
> > (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as
> he
> > was backing away), at this point the
> intruder is
> > now advancing towards the room wher his family
> is
> > and he is on the other side of the hallway and
> > shoots before the intruder can get to that
> > bedroom.
> >
> > The point is that none of where there and you
> can
> > play it out in your head all you want but we
> just
> > don't know enough to really judge him. I sure
> > hope you never get called for jury duty, you
> > people probably think it is your "duty" to vote
> > guilty.
>
>
> so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the
> back now? o_0


Shot in the back? Oh boy, he should get the cover of American Guns.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:34AM

Another Fine American Wrote:
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> > Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid
> away when you could of pushed him back down the
> steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose
> the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in
> Sterling Virginia.
> You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the
> word. Saving lives one night and destroying them
> the next.
> I'm proud of you, Sir

So, lets say he did push the kid down the stairs. Kid breaks neck and dies. Would you still award Mr Wilder his medal? The kid is just as dead.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: "Give me three steps, mister" ()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:38AM

Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The second is junior and every other kid in America is named after his father. I'm a fourth and not that pretentious.
A volunteer fire fighter? Probably helped with wed. nite tango.
.40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus mentality.
You don't fire warning shots in your house with a .40
Second wife? I'm old fashioned and don't believe in getting married to be hip.
Get it right the first time or just have fun.
This guy is a joke if he couldn't knock a sixteen year old neighbor down the fucking steps.
Unless he is a bullshitter.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Once Again ()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:50AM

Taxpayers: 1; Future Convicts/Thugs/Lib Leeches on Society: 0

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: March 22, 2013 09:26AM

"so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the back now? o_0"

From the latest info released - "The homeowner reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner discharged his firearm several times. The teenager was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents of the house were located."


You can't shoot someone in the back as they retreat. In this case he wasn't retreating, he was headed towards the room where the rest of the family was. I understand he is no longer a direct threat to the homeowner but at that point he became a threat to the rest of the family.

".40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus mentality.
You don't fire warning shots in your house with a .40"

First of all the make of the gun has not been released, someone just posted a Glock logo in this thread. Second, who says you don't fire a warning shot with a .40 caliber? Do you fire a warning shot with a .45, maybe a .22, what's your basis for this comment? If all occupants of the house are upstairs and you fire a round into the stairs what is that going to harm? I don't know where he fired the warning shot so the stairs are just an example.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: TangSoo ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:05AM

BB*X Wrote:
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> "so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the
> back now? o_0"
>
> From the latest info released - "The homeowner
> reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the
> firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up
> the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner
> discharged his firearm several times. The teenager
> was struck once in the left rear shoulder after
> passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking
> towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents
> of the house were located."
>
>
> You can't shoot someone in the back as they
> retreat. In this case he wasn't retreating, he
> was headed towards the room where the rest of the
> family was. I understand he is no longer a direct
> threat to the homeowner but at that point he
> became a threat to the rest of the family.
>
> ".40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus
> mentality.
> You don't fire warning shots in your house with a
> .40"
>
> First of all the make of the gun has not been
> released, someone just posted a Glock logo in this
> thread. Second, who says you don't fire a warning
> shot with a .40 caliber? Do you fire a warning
> shot with a .45, maybe a .22, what's your basis
> for this comment? If all occupants of the house
> are upstairs and you fire a round into the stairs
> what is that going to harm? I don't know where he
> fired the warning shot so the stairs are just an
> example.

I'll go back and find the link but I read yesterday that it was in
fact a .40. No mention of the make or model. You're right, it shouldn't
make a difference as to which caliber but we have to contend with forum
participants who have never heard of CQC.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: jhII ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:11AM

"Give me three steps, mister" Wrote:
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> Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The
> second is junior and every other kid in America is
> named after his father. I'm a fourth and not that
> pretentious.

The II is not the same as junior. Junior is used if you are named after your father. The II is used if you are named after say, your grandfather or great grandfather.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:32AM

"I'll go back and find the link but I read yesterday that it was in
fact a .40. No mention of the make or model."

Correct, that's what I was saying, it was a .40 but it may or may not have been a Glock. I was trying to make the point that the poster did not bother to read the article(s) about the shooting but saw a Glock logo and immediately attached that brand to the weapon. What else does this person see and immediately establish as fact in their head?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:33AM

So much fail in this thread. Someone could post the homeowner hit the kid over the head with a watermelon and all of sudden that's what happened! Leaks to the media almost always contain incorrect information.

THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED IS MR WILDER!

As Gordon Liddy used to say...."If you kill someone make sure (a) there are no witnesses and (b) you definitely kill the individual". That way the only story is yours.

I still say if this douche bag drunk teenager hadnt broken into someone elses home, he would be alive today. Of course as stupid as he appears to have been, he may not have been alive for long.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BS all around ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:37AM

Let's get one thing straight-pay the hell attention.

THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED.

No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not passed out, does not respond to gunfire.

This guy needed to cover his ass. Fired 4-5 times--how do you identify which one was warning shot.

I want to hear the 911 tape and see where all the bullets hit before I believe this joker.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Stand your ground? ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:42AM

jhII Wrote:
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> "Give me three steps, mister" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The
> > second is junior and every other kid in America
> is
> > named after his father. I'm a fourth and not
> that
> > pretentious.
>
> The II is not the same as junior. Junior is used
> if you are named after your father. The II is
> used if you are named after say, your grandfather
> or great grandfather.

When grandpa or great grandpa no longer breathes then you become número I.
No more number II. First place. Have to get certified in something that allows a title.
Warning shot? Yea,right
Wild West Wilder II is The FFU hero of the week.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:50AM

"THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED."

How do you know this, are you sure there isn't a hole in the wall of the stairwell and then the first blood is at the top of the stairs and down the hallway where he was actually shot?

"No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not passed out, does not respond to gunfire."

Right, because kids never get into their parents medicine cabinets and mix things like Xanax with alchohol. Heck, highschool kids never experiment with drugs and alchohol and their lack of experience with these substances never results in them over doing it and blacking out.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:18AM

Thanks, BB*X

still...................if I have a gun, how's this kid gonna get past me? I mean, wouldnt that be a fight? You are armed, between an intruder and yr fam AND YOU LET THE INTRUDER GO BY YOU!?!?!


..............THAT MAKES NO EFFING SENSE AT ALL!

does that make sense to anybody else? Let an intruder get by you?

for the record - I'm not judging the guy AT ALL. I wasnt there, I dont know. Maybe if more 411 comes out I'll change my mind but for now, all I am doing is askign questions cause this is one effed up, confusing shooting.................maybe one of the strangest ones I've hear ever. DEFINATELY the wierdest one I've heard in at least 10 years................

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:31AM

"if I have a gun, how's this kid gonna get past me? I mean, wouldnt that be a fight? You are armed, between an intruder and yr fam AND YOU LET THE INTRUDER GO BY YOU!?!?!"

I also do not understand this. I could see him backing down the hallway away from the room the family is in, in hopes of the intruder following him at the top of the stairs and not heading towards that bedroom. I'm just not sure that there is this much thought going into any of this when it is 230am and you've just been woken up by your alarm going off and now there is an intruder coming up your stairs. My thinking right now is that I would have put myself between the intruder and the bedroom but that's easy to say sitting here typing and not under pressure to act right now. I don't think the homeowner was any type of Rambo wanna be, I think he tried to run the kid off but once he made the top of the stairs and headed down the hallway (I'D be interested to know if the way he turned at the top of the stairs is the way he would turn to get to his room in his own house) the homeowner had to make a decision and he did.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Puddin Taint ()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:31AM

I'm suspect that the house a central staircase with the choice of turning left or right at the top of the stairs. Wilder could have been on the other wing of the hallway. It is pure speculation, but the only way I can work out how he could have passed.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: barkeep ()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:41AM

What's up with the underage alcohol investigation? Someone served him - they gotta be in deep shit.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:41PM

barkeep Wrote:
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> What's up with the underage alcohol investigation?
> Someone served him - they gotta be in deep shit.

Please....underage teenagers have been getting alkyhaul for centuries, including me when I was a teen. I doubt he went into a bar and got served. And if every parent that had teens drinking in their house got arrested......the jails would be rather crowded.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: cccc ()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:43PM

BB*X Wrote:
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> "THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED."
>
> How do you know this, are you sure there isn't a
> hole in the wall of the stairwell and then the
> first blood is at the top of the stairs and down
> the hallway where he was actually shot?
>
> "No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not
> passed out, does not respond to gunfire."
>
> Right, because kids never get into their parents
> medicine cabinets and mix things like Xanax with
> alchohol. Heck, highschool kids never experiment
> with drugs and alchohol and their lack of
> experience with these substances never results in
> them over doing it and blacking out.

PWC police report this morning confirms there was a warning shot.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: I am legend ()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:44PM

Parents had grounded him. He snuck out. Went to a party. Got drunk. Went to wrong house. Alarms went off. He was too drunk to notice the alarms or the guy with the gun in the hallway. He kept going. He got shot and kilt. Not the parents fault. Not the shooters fault. Kilt guy's fault.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:48PM

cccc Wrote:
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> >
> PWC police report this morning confirms there was
> a warning shot.

Why would the Prince William County PD be commenting on a case that happened in Loudoun County?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: verbal warning ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:17PM

LEARN TO READ.


At around 2:30 Sunday morning, sheriff's officials say the homeowner reportedly found Gordley in the stairwell and gave a verbal warning before firing a first shot.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: READ IT AGAIN ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:25PM

Wilder heard his burglar alarm, saw the teen inside and, officials said, confronted the teenager, at first giving “verbal warnings” before firing. The pistol was legally owned, and several shell casings and rounds were recovered at the scene.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: play by play ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:27PM

It went like this....

"Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW

That was the warning--the kid had NO time to respond.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: so what? ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:34PM

play by play Wrote:
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> It went like this....
>
> "Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW
>
> That was the warning--the kid had NO time to
> respond.


Even if it went like that, who cares? He shot someone who had broken into his house at 2:30 in the morning. It isn't unreasonable for the homeowner to bb in fear for his life or the lives of his family.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: so this jerk ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:42PM

Fine. Believe what you want.

I just want people to get the facts straight.

THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.

This guy is all about self preservation-he tells the cop what they want to hear.

Like someone else said. No witnesses and your story is the only story.

This guy was no boy scout.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Derp Gone Wild ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:47PM

so this jerk Wrote:
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> Fine. Believe what you want.
>
> I just want people to get the facts straight.
>
> THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
>
> This guy is all about self preservation-he tells
> the cop what they want to hear.
>
> Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.
>
> This guy was no boy scout.


STFU idiot.

You have no facts.

You have no clue what happened one way or another.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: ditto ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:52PM

NEITHER DO YOU IDIOT.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: answer this ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:55PM

If this guy was all about protecting his family why was he away from the room where they supposedly were?

We don't even know for sure if there was anyone lese in the house with him btw.

For a skilled gun owner, he sure was in a very odd spot when this menacing kid came up the stairs.

Why let him up the stairs at all.

And if he walked right by him, couldn't he see the kid was wasted and HAD NO WEAPON!!!!

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Where was Juliet? ()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:57PM

Derp Gone Wild Wrote:
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> so this jerk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fine. Believe what you want.
> >
> > I just want people to get the facts straight.
> >
> > THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
> >
> > This guy is all about self preservation-he
> tells
> > the cop what they want to hear.
> >
> > Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> > story is the only story.
> >
> > This guy was no boy scout.
>
>
> STFU idiot.
>
> You have no facts.
>
> You have no clue what happened one way or another.

Ask Donald West Wilder II's daughter.
When there is guns, there's always pussy.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: DWWII ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:06PM

ditto Wrote:
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> NEITHER DO YOU IDIOT.


He's not the one spinning theories and posting definative bullshit like you are fumbduck.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: cccc ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:10PM

Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> cccc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > PWC police report this morning confirms there
> was
> > a warning shot.
>
> Why would the Prince William County PD be
> commenting on a case that happened in Loudoun
> County?

Sorry, my bad. I read it on a PWC website and had a brain fart.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Danny Defito ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:13PM

Thought he had a son and his wife is Jane Wilder.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: so what? ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:15PM

so this jerk Wrote:
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> Fine. Believe what you want.

Sure. And you can continue to cling to your fantasies.

> I just want people to get the facts straight.

Then share some. All you have provided is innuendo and rumor. When you have a fact, let us know.

> THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.

Explain multiple casings and rounds but only one hitting the intruder.

> This guy is all about self preservation-he tells
> the cop what they want to hear.

And you know this how?

> Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.

So you decided to make up your own version?

> This guy was no boy scout.

And you know this how?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: pick a reason ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:28PM

One common reason that men choose to crossdress, is for sexual gratification. They may get sexually exited with the feel of the feminine fabrics and clothing on their body. They may enjoy the sexual excitement that they experience from wearing feminine clothing, and in seeing their feminine image.

Another reason for crossdressing, is that men want to feel free to express the feminine side of their personality. Boys are commonly socialized to believe that they cannot portray feminine traits. They can't cry, appear weak, or be soft. Males who dress in female clothing often feel liberated to express their emotions that perhaps, they are not able to freely express as themselves. For at least a few moments, they can shed the burdens and responsibilities of being a "man." Often, this results in feelings of comfort, and reduced stress. Men wear dresses because it feels good.

Perhaps a reason for crossdressing is one that is not often expressed, but is one that I believe is common. The reason that men wear dresses, is to feel and experience the "power of a woman." What power is this? It is the power of a beautiful woman to be able to turn the heads of all the men as she enters the room. It is the power that lingerie models have when they appear on television, and spontaneously create a sensation in the groins of thousands of the men who are watching. It is the power to choose who will get their attention, and perhaps who will mate with them. It is a power that is biologically linked and has allowed the human race to propagate.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Blowtorch999 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:28PM

Sheesh......there are some dumb fawkers on this forum. Verbal warning, no verbal warning, Warning shot, no warning shot, shot him on the stairs, shot him in the hall, should have recognized his neighbor's kid, should have asked him if he wanted a beer and a sandwich, kid's drunk so he's not responsible..........blah blah blah yada yada yada....

PERSON BROKE INTO A HOUSE (not his own) AND THE OWNER OF SAID HOUSE EXERCISED HIS RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND HIS HOME AND SHOT THE DUMB ASS DEAD

Why is there even a debate?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: BB*X ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:31PM

"THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD."

That would be plausible if every account of the incident didn't say the homeowner fired a warning shot.

"Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW

"That was the warning--the kid had NO time to respond."

Except that the latest account of the incident said he warned him multiple times and from the description of the events he backed away from the kid and allowed him to come up to the top of the stairs and make a turn towards the bedroom where his family was. At this point the homeowner was most likely on the opposite side of the stairs in the hallway at the top of the stairs. We don't know why he allowed him to come upstairs and we don't know why he didn't keep himself and his gun between the intruder and the bedroom. As I stated earlier, it could have been in hopes of the kid following him down the hall the opposite way of the bedroom where everyone else was.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: L7xhC ()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:32PM

pick a reason Wrote:
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> One common reason that men choose to crossdress,
> is for sexual gratification. They may get sexually
> exited with the feel of the feminine fabrics and
> clothing on their body. They may enjoy the sexual
> excitement that they experience from wearing
> feminine clothing, and in seeing their feminine
> image.
>
> Another reason for crossdressing, is that men want
> to feel free to express the feminine side of their
> personality. Boys are commonly socialized to
> believe that they cannot portray feminine traits.
> They can't cry, appear weak, or be soft. Males who
> dress in female clothing often feel liberated to
> express their emotions that perhaps, they are not
> able to freely express as themselves. For at least
> a few moments, they can shed the burdens and
> responsibilities of being a "man." Often, this
> results in feelings of comfort, and reduced
> stress. Men wear dresses because it feels good.
>
> Perhaps a reason for crossdressing is one that is
> not often expressed, but is one that I believe is
> common. The reason that men wear dresses, is to
> feel and experience the "power of a woman." What
> power is this? It is the power of a beautiful
> woman to be able to turn the heads of all the men
> as she enters the room. It is the power that
> lingerie models have when they appear on
> television, and spontaneously create a sensation
> in the groins of thousands of the men who are
> watching. It is the power to choose who will get
> their attention, and perhaps who will mate with
> them. It is a power that is biologically linked
> and has allowed the human race to propagate.


Just ask Gordon BLVD about it. He's an expert....


LoLzzzzzzzzzz
.
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: replay time ()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:17PM

Ok, you are fast asleep in your bed with probably your spouse. Agree?

2:30 you hear an alarm go off because your dumbass didn't lock your window downstairs even though its 30 degrees outside and you are paranoid enough to own a gun.

You have ZERO time to call 911--call probably happened after the shooting-agree?
Press release says 911 call received--report of burglary and shots fired.

So the drunk kid climbs into window--thinking he is in his house. The alarm is not audible where he is. He just wants to get in bed before dad catches him. He does not stop anf fix himself a sandwich so he gets to the stairs pretty quickly.

Rambo is where? Top of the stairs? kust came out of his room? There is not time for other family members to huddle together--everyone is in the room where they were sleeping. Agree?

The kid comes lumbering up the stairs--probably quietly and heads tward what he thinks is his room.

Rambo is hiding....where? the kid walks right by him (press release states this) so when are warnings shouted/shot/whatever? When?

When kid was at the bottom stairs? noway that kid comes up the stairs if this guy is shouting at him.

Rambo lets him come upstairs and then blows him away. Not very defensive.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: friskydingo ate your baby ()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:25PM

replay time Wrote:
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>
>
>Blah, blah, blah, made-up-shit, woulda, coulda, shoulda, pound head on keyboard nonsense

You should get a job with the WH press office (or MSNBC which is redundent). They make up stuff all the time too. Plus, you as boring as they are.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Simple ()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:43PM

Break into a house in Virginia at 2 a.m.- There is a good chace you will be escorted out in a body bag.

The end

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: LittleBooBoo ()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:52PM

WAAAAAAAHH! That bad old man had a gun and I don't like it! MOMMY!!!
I'll cry! WAAAAAAAHH!!!

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: lol whut 007 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 04:24PM

Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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>
>
> PERSON BROKE INTO A HOUSE (not his own) AND THE
> OWNER OF SAID HOUSE EXERCISED HIS RIGHT TO DEFEND
> HIMSELF AND HIS HOME AND SHOT THE DUMB ASS DEAD
>
> Why is there even a debate?


Because liberals need to politicize events for gun control. It's unfortunate, tragic even. But the kid broke into a house at 2:30 in the morning. wtf

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: One Less Future Felon ()
Date: March 22, 2013 04:57PM

misinformation Wrote:
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> This guy was hiding and shot at him several times.

Let's correct that statement:

Then this guy was hiding IN HIS OWN HOUSE AT 2:30 IN THE MORNING and shot AT AN INTRUDER WHO CAME IN THROUGH A WINDOW several times.

I fail to see any problem here, other than some blood stained walls and/or carpet.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: I See We Agree ()
Date: March 22, 2013 05:11PM

so this jerk Wrote:
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> No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.

The beauty of being an armed homeowner who has dealt
with an intruder in the proper manner, eh?

If the kid hadn't broken in, he'd be rappin' about
how what he did in sneaking out and getting drunk
was so cool, right? Lighting up a blunt and knocking
back 40s with his homies. But he did break in to
someone else's house (for whatever reason) and now
instead of composing rap songs, he's just decomposing.

Too stupid to live. Darwin wins again!

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Larry H ()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:18PM

Think about it, how drunk could he be if he was able to break into nighbors house? Maybe he did have bad intentions. Maybe he wanted that white teenage pussy upstairs. Also is the kids father white or black? I know the mother is black but the father is either very light skinned black or a white man?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Saint Ides ()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:04PM

Why do they keep talking about how similar the houses look from the front, okay pretty similar except one of them has a garage on the left and one on the right. The back of one of them has a deck and a gazebo and the other didn't seem to. Being ripped to the point of not recognizing your own front door is one thing. Being so lit you don't even notice the difference between the back of the 2 houses as shown on some of the news outlets is another.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: stui ()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:29PM

Larry H Wrote:
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> Think about it, how drunk could he be if he was
> able to break into nighbors house? Maybe he did
> have bad intentions. Maybe he wanted that white
> teenage pussy upstairs. Also is the kids father
> white or black? I know the mother is black but the
> father is either very light skinned black or a
> white man?

Father is white mother is ugly black woman. What does father do for a living besides deal drugs?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: eTTL3 ()
Date: March 22, 2013 09:15PM

Still missing the point kids? Here is a simple version regardless of everything else-

Break into house @ 2am = Holes in your body

Understand?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Tried it ()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:39PM

replay time Wrote:
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> The alarm is not audible where he
> is.

Have you ever been in a house when the alarm goes off? It's not subtle.

> The kid comes lumbering up the stairs--probably
> quietly and heads tward what he thinks is his
> room.
>

Yeah, a quiet drunk tip toes up the stairs.

Your story is not to be believed. Sorry.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Kid Dead Fred ()
Date: March 23, 2013 12:10AM

eTTL3 Wrote:
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> Still missing the point kids? Here is a simple
> version regardless of everything else-
>
> Break into house @ 2am = Holes in your body
>
> Understand?

Yea, you want to shoot kids. In the yard or aleast wait till they come in?
Do you offer them candy first?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: You're having a bad day when you ()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:03PM

get dead by a cross dresser. And you're still a virgin.
Bummer.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Dead Eye ()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:45PM

Kid Dead Fred Wrote:
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> Do you offer them candy first?

Nope, I just leave a bottle of vodka in plain sight
of an unlocked window. Once they're in... Blam!!!

I used to put a sign "White pussy upstairs" until
I realized most of them can't read.

For certain ethnic groups, a bucket of fried chicken
or a watermelon and some grape soda works just as well.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Signs,Signs, everywhere there' ()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:58PM

Dead Eye Wrote:
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> Kid Dead Fred Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you offer them candy first?
>
> Nope, I just leave a bottle of vodka in plain
> sight
> of an unlocked window. Once they're in...
> Blam!!!
>
> I used to put a sign "White pussy upstairs" until
> I realized most of them can't read.
>
> For certain ethnic groups, a bucket of fried
> chicken
> or a watermelon and some grape soda works just as
> well.

The sign is the most honest item you have posted.
Are you a cross dresser?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Grf ()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:58PM

There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home that isn't yours without permission or an invite and you are taking your life in your hands. Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not. If entering the home was an accident then this is a great example of natural selection at work. The kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he entered the home purposely without the homeowners permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing to debate. Move along.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: In a perfect world ()
Date: March 23, 2013 05:36PM

Grf Wrote:
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> There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home
> that isn't yours without permission or an invite
> and you are taking your life in your hands.
> Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not.
> If entering the home was an accident then this is
> a great example of natural selection at work. The
> kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he
> entered the home purposely without the homeowners
> permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing
> to debate. Move along.

Please tell all that you are impotent. Natural selection not withstanding.
Wouldn't want one of your children making a mistake.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Grf ()
Date: March 23, 2013 05:46PM

There is a difference between a "mistake", like spilling juice on the carpet, and entering someone's house at 2am. Sure a baseball bat to the face would have done the trick but those are the chances you take when get blackout drunk (or whatever else he was on). He was held accountable for his actions. Unfortunately for him it cost him his life.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Dead Eye ()
Date: March 23, 2013 06:51PM

Signs,Signs, everywhere there' Wrote:
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> Are you a cross dresser?

Why do you ask? You seem to be interested in finding one.
Are you contemplating coming out of your closet?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Call of duty ()
Date: March 23, 2013 07:07PM

Grf Wrote:
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> There is a difference between a "mistake", like
> spilling juice on the carpet, and entering
> someone's house at 2am. Sure a baseball bat to the
> face would have done the trick but those are the
> chances you take when get blackout drunk (or
> whatever else he was on). He was held accountable
> for his actions. Unfortunately for him it cost him
> his life.

Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons in the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was necessary for continuing life. If a parent can't differentiate between a inebriated teen and a cross dressing pervert then the child rearing license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm you should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed after dementia. You only get to fuck up once. Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live with his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Closet Maid ()
Date: March 23, 2013 07:10PM

Dead Eye Wrote:
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> Signs,Signs, everywhere there' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are you a cross dresser?
>
> Why do you ask? You seem to be interested in
> finding one.
> Are you contemplating coming out of your closet?

I can't even get in mine. Too many skeletons. Your's clean?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Another One Bites The Dust ()
Date: March 23, 2013 08:31PM

Call of duty Wrote:
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> Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons in
> the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew
> kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was
> necessary for continuing life. If a parent can't
> differentiate between a inebriated teen and a
> cross dressing pervert then the child rearing
> license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm you
> should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed
> after dementia. You only get to fuck up once.
> Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live with
> his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.

It's just one of life's lessons. Don't drink to the point
where you can't tell your house from another. Remember
Darwin? Stupidity is always allowed - once. Looks like
he already used up his quota. So there's an opening in
her class.

Please pass my sympathy to your parents. I'm sure you
must be a great disappointment to them as they grow older.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Dead Eye ()
Date: March 23, 2013 08:34PM

Closet Maid Wrote:
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> I can't even get in mine. Too many skeletons.
> Your's clean?

Pretty much. Plenty of room even after all these years.
Most of my mistakes and misfortunes have been out there
for all to see. Not much to hide, but it did build a
sense of perspective and some character to boot!

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Mellow Yellow ()
Date: March 23, 2013 11:08PM

Another One Bites The Dust Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Call of duty Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons
> in
> > the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew
> > kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was
> > necessary for continuing life. If a parent
> can't
> > differentiate between a inebriated teen and a
> > cross dressing pervert then the child rearing
> > license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm
> you
> > should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed
> > after dementia. You only get to fuck up once.
> > Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live
> with
> > his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.
>
> It's just one of life's lessons. Don't drink to
> the point
> where you can't tell your house from another.
> Remember
> Darwin? Stupidity is always allowed - once. Looks
> like
> he already used up his quota. So there's an
> opening in
> her class.
>
> Please pass my sympathy to your parents. I'm sure
> you
> must be a great disappointment to them as they
> grow older.

Life's lessons? Nice touch.
Love the caviler attitude. But I've mellowed with age. Easy come,easy go?
Karma can be a bitch.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: What do you think? ()
Date: March 24, 2013 12:48AM

Do you think he died right away or rolled around for a bit? Like 15 minutes or so?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Highjus ()
Date: March 24, 2013 02:22AM

Cool story bro. Your white neighbor gives blankets to drunk black teenagers and let then sleep on their couch when you were growing up??? I call bullshit on this story. As Louis CK says, black people can't fuck with time machines. Anything past 1980, they don't want to go back.

You are creating the problem Wrote:
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> late night Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday
> > night
> > > (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m.
> and
> > > drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out
> > wrong.
> > > Was he being raised by absentee parents?
> Was
> > it
> > > commonplace that the young man was out
> > "drinking"
> > > like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a
> school
> > > night? And drinking so much that he
> supposedly
> > > was obliterated out of his mind enough to
> > become
> > > disoriented?
> > >
> > > Forget gun control: where's the parental
> > control?
> >
> >
> > Technically speaking he went out on Saturday
> night
> > and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday
> > morning. I agree with everything else you said
> > though.
>
> This was a normal night for us way back when. The
> difference is our neighbors would got us a drink
> of water, put us on the sofa with blanket and
> called the parents in the morning. Good neighbors
> would tell a little white lie and cover our asses.
> My parents would. Hell is when the police brought
> you home. Not for being drunk but for getting
> caught. We survived and graduated to become
> outstanding citizens and leaders.
> This incident is a reflection of times and
> paranoia. You should make an effort to know your
> neighbors and become friends.
> I feel sorry for the state of northern VA.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: MLK republican ()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:08AM

I find it hard to beleive after two years as neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black kid.

Quentin Tarantino surmises that the shooter is trying to start a dead n....r storage facility. John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson tried to do that in Quentin's garage.

Harvey Kietel had to put a stop to that.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Obama Democrat ()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:17AM

MLK republican Wrote:
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> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.

Even in broad daylight, it's hard to tell one nigger
from another. At 2:30am in a dark house it's impossible.
Remember, you all look alike to white people.

There are black kids in my neighborhood that even after
10 years here I'd fail to recognize if I saw them
somewhere else. Except that little fat one maybe.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: ESY ()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:24AM

MLK republican Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
>
> Quentin Tarantino surmises that the shooter is
> trying to start a dead n....r storage facility.
> John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson tried to do
> that in Quentin's garage.
>
> Harvey Kietel had to put a stop to that.

I live in a townhouse and only know a handfull of my neighbors
after 15 years. Two houses down from mine is an end unit that
seems to have new residents every six months for some reason.
(It's a rental) I can't keep track of all of them.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: MLK republican ()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:59AM

As disturbing as this kids tragic death is, I still have enough self honesty to categorically state that the shooting was totally legal as long as the story we've been told is truthful and I think it is.

On the other hand exonerating those off duty moonlighting sheriffs deputies in Frederick for killing that guy with down syndrome is total bullshit as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: think about it some2 ()
Date: March 24, 2013 09:37AM

Grf Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home
> that isn't yours without permission or an invite
> and you are taking your life in your hands.
> Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not.
> If entering the home was an accident then this is
> a great example of natural selection at work. The
> kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he
> entered the home purposely without the homeowners
> permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing
> to debate. Move along.

The problem is these gun guys weather they are NRA members or not they live for this kind of stuff. They hold their little guns and dream of the chance to blow someone away. I do keep a little six shooter locked in my bedroom but I am not one of those fags with the NRA sticker on my vehicle who lives his life in fear. Had that kid come into my house I would have pepper sprayed the shit out of him and if he survived the fall down the steps we would all have a good laugh about it later. Sadly this homeowner was the live in fear type so nothing good has come from this situation.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: MLK republican ()
Date: March 24, 2013 09:59AM

Like I said, it was legal. I do not think it was necessary.

I agree that some of these gun freaks live for stuff like that. Sadly, many of them are police officers.

I hate to sound cold but incidents like this only fuel sick minds of liberal gun control freaks.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: It's True ()
Date: March 24, 2013 11:14AM

Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right. You never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best way to get yourself killed and sued by the person you shot, you have to kill them.

Any basic firearms course will teach you this.

Internet Rambo Wrote:
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> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A Question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> > non
> > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> >
> > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first
> > thing you learn in weapons training is aim for
> a
> > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> suprised
> > he only shot him once. Should have emptied the
> > magazine on him.
>
> You are full of shit. You wound before
> terminating. Not a combat zone.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Maxipads ()
Date: March 24, 2013 02:00PM

The center mass shot is taught because most wannabe rambos have either shit or pissed on themselves and their flacid hand is shaken faster than the wifes vibrator. A one shot, one shit kinda thing. Pissin in the pants(in this case in the panties). Shooting drunk teenagers takes a certain skillset and precise movements. I hope he wasn't wearing crouchless panties. A man tough enough to shoot an unarmed kid should be able to handle the ridicule.



It's True Wrote:
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> Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right. You
> never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best way
> to get yourself killed and sued by the person you
> shot, you have to kill them.
>
> Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
>
> Internet Rambo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A Question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or
> some
> > > non
> > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> > >
> > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> first
> > > thing you learn in weapons training is aim
> for
> > a
> > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > suprised
> > > he only shot him once. Should have emptied
> the
> > > magazine on him.
> >
> > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > terminating. Not a combat zone.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: ex-Lester ()
Date: March 24, 2013 02:24PM

The kid also damaged the screen to the rear window. If he wasn't drunk and lived nearby, it would be an open and shut case of breaking and entering with intent to commit burglary or some other offense.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/199516601.html

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Guess who's not coming to dinner ()
Date: March 25, 2013 11:06AM

Some days you eat the bear.
Some days a cross dresser shoots you.
Things are definetly changin'.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 25, 2013 11:46AM

@guess - not really - cross dresser or not, you best stay outta other ppls houses 2 in the morning LoLz - it's been that way for a while now................

@ex -thanks for that -that link has the most details I've seen yet outta this

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: _Eyedea_ ()
Date: March 25, 2013 12:02PM

Another Fine American Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cigarette lighter 1916 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > HERO!
> > >
> > > End of story...............
> >
> > Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots
> a
> > kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward
> > would call this wannabe a hero.
>
>
> Mr. Donald West Wilder II is a true American HERO!
> Any gentleman who is willing to get out of bed
> when house alarm sounds, remove his .40 caliper
> Glock and confront a inebriated 16 year old black
> boy who is disoriented and shoot him should be
> awarded a national defense medal. We need more
> heros like Mr. Wilder II
> to protect homes,property and second marriages
> from these heathen misguided teenagers that every
> generation since the beginning of time has
> encountered.
> Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid
> away when you could of pushed him back down the
> steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose
> the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in
> Sterling Virginia.
> You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the
> word. Saving lives one night and destroying them
> the next.
> I'm proud of you, Sir


Yeah, I understand your strawman and all, but if I saw a large figure stumbling torward me in the middle of the night and I lived alone, you'd better beleive whatever is coming torward me is getting blown away, whether it's a person, a zombie, or god damn big foot. It's a tradgedy but honestly the guy was lucky to get any sort of warning at all. Welcome to the age of paranoia, it's here to stay.

Personally I think it's a little much to keep a loaded gun by your bedside if you're living in sterling, and I think it's beyond suspicious that the guy didn't recognise his own neighbor.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Raised on robbery ()
Date: March 25, 2013 03:39PM

Maxipads Wrote:
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> The center mass shot is taught because most
> wannabe rambos have either shit or pissed on
> themselves and their flacid hand is shaken faster
> than the wifes vibrator. A one shot, one shit
> kinda thing. Pissin in the pants(in this case in
> the panties). Shooting drunk teenagers takes a
> certain skillset and precise movements. I hope he
> wasn't wearing crouchless panties. A man tough
> enough to shoot an unarmed kid should be able to
> handle the ridicule.
>
>
>
> It's True Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right.
> You
> > never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best
> way
> > to get yourself killed and sued by the person
> you
> > shot, you have to kill them.
> >
> > Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
> >
> > Internet Rambo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
Yep, that's how it usually happens.
Shooting someone in your house becomes rather expensive:
The cost for the attorney. Have to hire one.
The cost of cleaning and sanitizing.
New carpeting.
The holes. He said he fired warning shots. It's still cold out and repairs will be neccesary.
The hotel room cost. Always wondered if Marriott would give a "self defense" discount? Crime scene so no going home for a couple of days.
Fuel cost. Hotel to police station numerous times.
Telephone cost. Hope they have a good friends and family plan.
Father boasting, mother complaining and daughter doing both will run up the hours.
Bullet replacemnt cost. If and when he gets the rosco back he will have to restock. And everyone is bitching about cost and availability in the area.
Panty cost. Those are probably to soiled to be laundered.
Nope, killin and livin high in Northern Virginia has it's cost.
And just the first month
This ain't the wild west. Or is it?

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: March 25, 2013 03:50PM

MLK republican Wrote:
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> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
>
> Please......they all look alike in the dark

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: If they stay out of my way... ()
Date: March 25, 2013 04:36PM

MLK republican Wrote:
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> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.

This isn't small town USA.

People don't know (or care to know) most of their neighbors anymore. I know I don't.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: March 25, 2013 04:43PM

I really dont think 230am with a burglar alarm sounding is the ideal time to introduce yourself to your neighbor.

You cant fix stupid. Well, I take that back. In this case a bullet did!

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: CGuwu ()
Date: March 25, 2013 05:29PM

Who ever purchased or sold the booze is royaly fucked. IMO it is still a breaking and entering regardless of how these snot nose pimple faced tweens are trying to justify entering someone elses house at 2am. Kid should have taken a warning shot as a clear indication to GTFO. I wonder if his tox report will show anything other than booze.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Little pink houses or boxes? ()
Date: March 25, 2013 05:32PM

If they stay out of my way... Wrote:
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> MLK republican Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> > neighbors the shooter did not recognize the
> black
> > kid.
>
> This isn't small town USA.
>
> People don't know (or care to know) most of their
> neighbors anymore. I know I don't.

Arrogant self important asshole? Remember you aren't any better than your neighbors.
You live in the same type house on the same street.
How common of you.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: March 25, 2013 05:35PM

CGuwu Wrote:
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> Who ever purchased or sold the booze is royaly
> fucked.

And how do you suppose they are going to be caught? Teens buy alcohol illegally every damn weekend in NOVA. Very seldom is someone held accountable. You are dreaming the surburban dream.

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Ambulance Chaser ()
Date: March 25, 2013 06:39PM

John Flannery, a liberal ambulance chasing attorney in Loudoun, auditions for a civil suit with this gag-inducing blog post:

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Just a kid!

I’m just a kid, 16 ½ years old. The half year matters. I’m getting older. I play b-ball and f-ball at Park View High School and can palm a ball. I like rap, rhyme and rhythm. I’m kind of square. I hang with great kids, no h8ers, and I’m blessed that they seem to like me. My Mom and Dad are fine. My Dad’s white and my Mom’s black. So I’m like President Barack although I’m Caleb and my parents are race-reversed. Like a verse I’d rehearse. I’m a person of color but don’t feel that I’m treated differently.

We live in a nice home. The other homes on Pullman Court are like ours - all nice - very much the same.

My friends joke I’m “black Irish” -- so we’re going out tonight – to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day. It’s quiet in my house so I’m going to sneak out now, and go out with my friends. I kind of know better. But my parents must have done the same when they were my age. Huck Finn did this kind of thing. Right?

We are laughing, going to a party, and got some beers to drink. I’m feeling like what must be kind of drunk, having a swimming, spinning, swooning feeling like my head or my consciousness is pulling away and then coming back again, and that feeling you get when you drive over the top of a steep hill too quickly – and your stomach’s out of its rightful orbit.

It’s enough. We’re going home now. It’s after 2 in the AM. I can almost feel that soft pillow – if I can get back in the house without getting in trouble.

We’re trying to figure out in the dark which is my house from the rear yards. My friends are helping – not that much. We found a window unlocked. I’m home free. In a few minutes, I’ll be tucked in, dead to the world.

My steps are unsteady. My hands are free to steady myself – like the way I’ve felt sometimes in the third quarter when I’ve needed water, suffered from dehydration, and it’s not like that either.

There’s some guy in the hallway on the way to the stair well between me and my room. He’s acting all upset. He looks familiar. Do my parents have a house guest? Who is this guy? Why is he up and no one else is? Why is he upset? He’s waving his arms.

What was that noise? Was that a gun? I’ll just run past him and get to my room, get to bed, and sleep. I’ll be safe then. If I’m in my room, then maybe no one will realize I was out at all, if I can get out of my street clothes fast enough. I’ll just run up to my room.

What is that loud thundering sound? The sound hurts. Was that a gun? God, I’m being pushed so hard and fast on my left shoulder, did I shout, it’s breaking me, twisting me, knocking me down, like no pain I’ve ever felt when shoved roughly while fighting for rebounds. It’s coming through my shoulder, through me. My heart! The pain. My chest too. They hurt so. I can’t breathe. I feel faint, cool in the face, and this warm wetness washing over my chest. What’s happening to me? What has he done to me? Who is he? Did he do it? He’s behind me. I can’t turn to see. Are those more gun shots? I’m losing consciousness, have to break my fall. So fast this is happening, and yet seems so slowly happening like to someone else. I want to stay awake, not to sleep. But there’s this unimaginable mind-numbing suffocating pain.

Now there is nothing.

I sense silence, calm, and an absence of any feeling at all.

This must be a dream.

If I could describe it, it’s like I’m in some mid-distance between the window I entered and the sun door I’m entering.

I just know I’ll wake up any moment.

Like through a mist, I see or feel my parents holding each other and crying. Men are coming, reassuring them, to no good effect.

Does this have to do with me sneaking out for the night? Was this my bad?

I hear words spoken of warning shots and .40 caliber bullets … that there were more shots aimed at me. At me?

They say I was in someone else’s home, one lot away from mine; that’s not right; that was my home

I’m having a waking nightmare.

I think I see my body on a shiny metal table torn apart, the left side a grizzly blood-stained mass, things not in their right place, and sense my parents want to see me – what was me – my body – what’s left - but no one will let them.

If only someone would speak for me, say what happened tonight – so everyone could know.

No worry. Soon I’ll wake up. It’s what we all talked about at school, how those 20 elementary school students were killed in Connecticut, that’s what has me dreaming this, that and the drink. Such a thing could never happen in Loudoun!

http://www.loudounprogress.org/?p=4710

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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: March 25, 2013 06:52PM

Cute story bro. The only truth was "dead to the world".

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