Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
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> Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> chicken-shit
> > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> old
> > drunk black kid?
> > Future president of the NRA.
>
>
> uh huh. What would you have done, laughed at him
> and tried to escort him out the front door calling
> him silly?
>
> so dumb

Yea,I would have. I'm still a man first and not some NoVA pussy. The kid would be easy to knock out being drunk.

NOW is the time Wrote:
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> repeal it now Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > chicken-shit
> > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> > old
> > > drunk black kid?
> > > Future president of the NRA.
> >
> >
> > +1. It is time to repeal the Second Amendment.
>
> ^This
>
> Get behind this people! This is the only
> guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their lunacy.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
> endment/371249309570118

The above has had 410 "likes". scary
>
> http://americamagazine.org/issue/repeal-second-ame

Never heard of them. What's their readership?


>
> http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/repeal-the-second
> /Content?oid=2795918

Who is this guy? LOL!

Rocket J. Wrote:
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> NOW is the time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > repeal it now Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > > chicken-shit
> > > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16
> year
> > > old
> > > > drunk black kid?
> > > > Future president of the NRA.
> > >
> > >
> > > +1. It is time to repeal the Second
> Amendment.
> >
> > ^This
> >
> > Get behind this people! This is the only
> > guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their
> lunacy.
> >
> >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
>
> > endment/371249309570118
>
> The above has had 410 "likes". scary

I know. It is scary that more people haven't liked it. I hope you consider joining the cause.

>
> Maybe not true but why was the guys window
> unlocked and he was armed?
> There is probably more to this story than a cross
> dressing weirdo. Where was the wife and kid? Any
> kid who was drunk would scare off when the alarm
> went off. Was the kid down the steps or up the
> steps?
> This could get real interesting for the conspiracy
> theorists.


I got one for ya

kids know he's a cross dressing wierdo - dump their drunk buddy off at the house thinking it'll maybe end up in a funny goof in an American Pie/Hangover kinda way................

How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell, I probably have unlocked windows at my house and have no idea.

Batter up Wrote:
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> What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> Louisville slugger works best. Used one years ago
> to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their night
> and the next three years of their life. Will never
> forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A bat
> against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I just
> finished reparing and painting the room so didn't
> feel like shooting them.

Looking beyond the lack of understanding the English language, this story is bullshit.

There is no room in a house to swing a bat freely, unless you somehow met them in the MIDDLE of a living or bed room, doubtful. There were multiple intruders, so choosing a bat is a mistake someone with self-defense knowledge would not make. If they had a gun, you would have been shot. Saying "I am tired of shooting people" gives the whole bullshit story away, as you have just made it a "Macho-Man" contest.

Try again.

Va. teen's parents say they forgive his killer

Tuesday - 3/19/2013, 2:27pm ET

The family of 16-year-old Caleb Gordley says they forgive their neighbor for shooting and killing their son. (WTOP/Nick Iannelli)Nick Ianelli, wtop.com

STERLING, Va. - Their son was shot and killed over the weekend. But Tuesday morning under blue skies and sunshine, the family of 16-year-old Caleb Gordley expressed acceptance and forgiveness.

"I don't blame the gentleman," says Jennea Gordley, adding that she forgives the shooter. "This was an accident."

Gordley's son was shot and killed this past weekend inside a neighbor's home. Family members say he entered the wrong house mistakenly after a night of drinking.

He was shot by the homeowner.

"I love my son," says Caleb's father, Shawn Gordley. "I don't have any tears left."

Still, the family says they will move away from their Sterling neighborhood. They can't stand to live on that block anymore.

Those close to the high school junior live both in the D.C. area and in Ohio, where the family has many relatives.

A "celebration" of his life will occur in both locations, according to the family.

Meanwhile, the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office is investigating, and family members say they have been less than helpful.

"Everything I've gotten, beyond the very little they (sheriff's officials) have told us, has come from the media," Shawn Gordley says.

Jennea Gordley described the department's actions as "unfair."

WTOP obtained a statement from the department Tuesday.

It reads, "The LCSO offers it's condolences to the family and friends of Caleb Gordley, and continues to investigate this incident. The LCSO only disseminates accurate information to the family and to the public, as it becomes available. There is a lot of speculation and rumor in this case, and we are working on sorting out the facts. It would be irresponsible to put out information that's not verified."

Sheriff's officials say they have been in regular contact with the family and will continue sharing information as the investigation comes to a close.

In the meantime, the Gordleys are just trying to stay positive.

"I got 16-and-a-half awesome years (with Caleb)," his father says. "I will hold on to that. I will hold on to those 16 years."

Yeah, rather than shooting the intruder he should have done what every good libtwat does when they find a young black man in their house at night... drop to their knees and offer to suck dick.

unlocked? Wrote:
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> How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell, I
> probably have unlocked windows at my house and
> have no idea.


yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms usually actually do basic security things like lock their windows...............you know, because THEY HAVE A FIREARM.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> unlocked? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell,
> I
> > probably have unlocked windows at my house and
> > have no idea.
>
>
> yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms
> usually actually do basic security things like
> lock their windows...............you know, because
> THEY HAVE A FIREARM.


Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?

A baseball bat is a great visual deterrent but ineffective against an opponent who is determined and willing to duck and dodge.


I saw a big dude with a ball bat get the shit beat out of him by a much smaller guy once. The guy wielding the bat let it drop below his shoulders after a clumsy swing or two and the little guy cracked him multiple times as his guard was down and his face was easy prey. Fists are lighter and travel faster.

I carried a ball bat (and a glove to defuse weapon allegations) for years. Great to use just to scare away the average dolt who gets a little froggy, but any decent martial arts or MMA guy has the bob-weave-duck down well enough to render a bat useless.

Sorry to break the news but like em or not, handguns rule.

idontlikebeingrightaboutshitlikethisbutiam



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unlocked Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > unlocked? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How do we know the window was unlocked.
> Hell,
> > I
> > > probably have unlocked windows at my house
> and
> > > have no idea.
> >
> >
> > yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms
> > usually actually do basic security things like
> > lock their windows...............you know,
> because
> > THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
>
>
> Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?

i dunno we do. thats why i asked if we know if it was or not a "true" break-in or not

These house look nothing like each other from behind. One is parallel to Church Road, the other is at an angle. The features are also very different - notably a screened in porch. Plus one house is opposite the turning lane and right off an intersection, the other is opposite a 2 lane portion of the road. The backyards are also noticeably different in size.

The 'wrong house' argument is a little fishy.

To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not responsible for this.The host of the party andb anyone who provid ed the booze to this young man is. Get real n wake up.

Legal
- Kinky sex
- Handguns
- Unlocked windows
- Shooting intruders in your home

Illegal
- Underage drinking
- Trespassing
- Breaking and entering
- Menacing

I think the homeowner wins on this one.

WingNut Wrote:
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> A baseball bat is a great visual deterrent but
> ineffective against an opponent who is determined
> and willing to duck and dodge.
>
>
> I saw a big dude with a ball bat get the shit beat
> out of him by a much smaller guy once. The guy
> wielding the bat let it drop below his shoulders
> after a clumsy swing or two and the little guy
> cracked him multiple times as his guard was down
> and his face was easy prey. Fists are lighter and
> travel faster.
>
> I carried a ball bat (and a glove to defuse weapon
> allegations) for years. Great to use just to scare
> away the average dolt who gets a little froggy,
> but any decent martial arts or MMA guy has the
> bob-weave-duck down well enough to render a bat
> useless.
>
> Sorry to break the news but like em or not,
> handguns rule.


Yeah, but he didn't have a tactical bat.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> unlocked Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > unlocked? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > How do we know the window was unlocked.
> > Hell,
> > > I
> > > > probably have unlocked windows at my house
> > and
> > > > have no idea.
> > >
> > >
> > > yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have
> firearms
> > > usually actually do basic security things
> like
> > > lock their windows...............you know,
> > because
> > > THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
> >
> >
> > Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?
>
> i dunno we do. thats why i asked if we know if it
> was or not a "true" break-in or not


You don't need the windows to be locked to be a true break in. The act of opening it is sufficient to qualify as a "break in."

NOW is the time Wrote:
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> Rocket J. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NOW is the time Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > repeal it now Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > > > chicken-shit
> > > > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16
> > year
> > > > old
> > > > > drunk black kid?
> > > > > Future president of the NRA.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1. It is time to repeal the Second
> > Amendment.
> > >
> > > ^This
> > >
> > > Get behind this people! This is the only
> > > guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their
> > lunacy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
>
> >
> > > endment/371249309570118
> >
> > The above has had 410 "likes". scary
>
> I know. It is scary that more people haven't
> liked it. I hope you consider joining the cause.

Laughable at best. Harry Reid just declared Diane's "assault weapons bill"
dead in the Senate so I doubt you'll be signing up more "likes". Meanwhile,
the NRA membership has grown by nearly a million in the last three months.

I cannot arm my alarm system if a window is left unlocked. My alarm system is not some cheap piece of shit so that might have something to do with it.

I do NOT blame the owner of the house. He had every right to defend himself and his family.

Sad situation all around.

KCMyk Wrote:
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> Batter up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> > Louisville slugger works best. Used one years
> ago
> > to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their
> night
> > and the next three years of their life. Will
> never
> > forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A
> bat
> > against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> > Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I
> just
> > finished reparing and painting the room so
> didn't
> > feel like shooting them.
>
> Looking beyond the lack of understanding the
> English language, this story is bullshit.
>
> There is no room in a house to swing a bat freely,
> unless you somehow met them in the MIDDLE of a
> living or bed room, doubtful. There were multiple
> intruders, so choosing a bat is a mistake someone
> with self-defense knowledge would not make. If
> they had a gun, you would have been shot. Saying
> "I am tired of shooting people" gives the whole
> bullshit story away, as you have just made it a
> "Macho-Man" contest.
>
> Try again.

Go Senators Wrote:
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>
>
> No holes in the wall. Only pistol I have ever
> owned is a Remington M1911 and the rounds were
> .45acp hardballs. Sparse furniture after
> renovation but who cares.
> There was some blood and few broken teeth.
> I was tired of shooting people.
> "Live in peace or in pieces "

1971 and just got back from another world. Trying to find peace within so I bought a nice stone house in Falls Church to renovate. Two dumbasses decided that the house was unoccupied and needed a place to hide. They both had priors and the police were very interested in them. They picked the wrong residence.
Not a macho man but just your average pissed on/off VV. Their were quite a few bad nights over the next decade.

Take it anyway you want but killing can fuck up a good nights sleep.

Libtwats Wrote:
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> Yeah, rather than shooting the intruder he should
> have done what every good libtwat does when they
> find a young black man in their house at night...
> drop to their knees and offer to suck dick.

Hi twat. Long time no see.

I must say, the blame for all this falls squarely on the shoulders of the absent parents. I don't believe for one second that good ole Mom and Dad grounded him for not cleaning his room...geeez!And if they did, wouldn't you check on your 16 year old son at some point during the evening (on a weekend night) to see how he's doing? Yet they still don't know where he is at 2:30am? Poor parenting to say the least. I agree with some previous posts, look like he had it coming and the parents know it, did you hear that statement his mother made??? "It's all good, I don't hold nobody at fault...whose to say what the good Lord wanted, he's an angel now..ain't nothing but a thing???

Dear NOW is the time. Twenty years ago an armed intruder broke into my house. Specifically, in my baby son's room. I grabbed the phone, dialed 911, threw it on the floor. I also grabbed the shotgun and as the dispatcher was yelling "m'am, m'am, they are on their way!" I shot at the foot that had broken through the screen just a few feet away from my son's crib. The police came 6 minutes later; the intruder had a gun and a knife, and was on parole for a violent offense.

If you don't want a gun, don't buy a gun. But don't you DARE presume to take away my right to defend myself and my family. (Arrogant, ignorant, kool-aid drinking jackass, she mumbled to herself.)

Posted on: March 18, 2013
Teenager Identified in Fatal Shooting on Pullman Court
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 18, 2013

Contact: Liz Mills, Director of Media Relations and Communications, 571-251-5568 (mobile)
Liz.mills@loudoun.gov

Loudoun County, VA- The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office has identified a Park View High Student who was fatally shot inside a Sterling, Virginia home as Caleb A. Gordley

Loudoun County Sheriff’s Deputies initially responded to the home in the 45900 block of Pullman Court for a report of a burglary with shots fired by the homeowner. The shooting took place shortly after 2:30AM Sunday when a resident reported that their house alarm was activated. As the homeowner went to investigate, he discovered an unknown male inside their home on the stairwell. The teenager lost his life at the scene.

The 16-year-old lived on the same street as the home where the shooting took place and reportedly had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening. A rear window to the home was found opened and is believed to be the point of entry into the home.

The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office continues to investigate the circumstances surrounding the shooting and why the teenager entered the home. The agency is also awaiting a final report from the Medical Examiner’s Office, to include a toxicology report, to determine if drugs or alcohol played a factor.

If you have not already spoken to Detectives with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and have information regarding the case, you are asked to call the Criminal Investigations Division at 703-777-0475.

Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong. Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it commonplace that the young man was out "drinking" like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school night? And drinking so much that he supposedly was obliterated out of his mind enough to become disoriented?

Forget gun control: where's the parental control?

Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
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> Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night
> (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong.
> Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it
> commonplace that the young man was out "drinking"
> like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> was obliterated out of his mind enough to become
> disoriented?
>
> Forget gun control: where's the parental control?


Yo, it's a hard thug's life in the Sterlinghood.

Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
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> Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night
> (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong.
> Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it
> commonplace that the young man was out "drinking"
> like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> was obliterated out of his mind enough to become
> disoriented?
>
> Forget gun control: where's the parental control?


Technically speaking he went out on Saturday night and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday morning. I agree with everything else you said though.

late night Wrote:
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> Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday
> night
> > (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> > drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out
> wrong.
> > Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was
> it
> > commonplace that the young man was out
> "drinking"
> > like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> > night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> > was obliterated out of his mind enough to
> become
> > disoriented?
> >
> > Forget gun control: where's the parental
> control?
>
>
> Technically speaking he went out on Saturday night
> and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday
> morning. I agree with everything else you said
> though.

This was a normal night for us way back when. The difference is our neighbors would got us a drink of water, put us on the sofa with blanket and called the parents in the morning. Good neighbors would tell a little white lie and cover our asses. My parents would. Hell is when the police brought you home. Not for being drunk but for getting caught. We survived and graduated to become outstanding citizens and leaders.
This incident is a reflection of times and paranoia. You should make an effort to know your neighbors and become friends.
I feel sorry for the state of northern VA.

@you - no fooling, right? Incredible that the fucking neighbor didnt recognize the kid two doors down. Sign o the times, m'man. And they say it's the immigrants destroying the USA .

that being said, we still dont know the "interaction" between the kid and the tranny(?) so that debate is still up for grabs. Even if he knew the kid, if the kid was aggressive then it's kinda on him, unfortunately :(

@to break - yeah, we got that, Perry Mason. This aint a court o'law and we are STILL JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF SOMEONE BROKE A WINDOW OR LATCH TO GAIN ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUSHING OPEN AN UNLATCHED WINDOW OR ACCESSING AN ALREADY OPEN WINDOW. Does yr mom have to chew yr food and spit it in yr mouth for you to be able to swallow it? o_0

Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
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> Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit
> pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old
> drunk black kid?
> Future president of the NRA.


Does he use his wifes, daughters or buy his own dresses?
Maybe GB was right and his friends dropped him off on purpose.
Or maybe either the wife or daughter needed some dark meat.
Enquiring minds want to know.

Yet another victim of the terrorist organization known as the NRA (American)

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @you - no fooling, right? Incredible that the
> fucking neighbor didnt recognize the kid two doors
> down. Sign o the times, m'man. And they say it's
> the immigrants destroying the USA .
>
> that being said, we still dont know the
> "interaction" between the kid and the tranny(?) so
> that debate is still up for grabs. Even if he
> knew the kid, if the kid was aggressive then it's
> kinda on him, unfortunately :(
>
> @to break - yeah, we got that, Perry Mason. This
> aint a court o'law and we are STILL JUST TRYING TO
> FIGURE OUT IF SOMEONE BROKE A WINDOW OR LATCH TO
> GAIN ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUSHING OPEN AN
> UNLATCHED WINDOW OR ACCESSING AN ALREADY OPEN
> WINDOW. Does yr mom have to chew yr food and spit
> it in yr mouth for you to be able to swallow it?
> o_0W

This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots neighbors.
Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but cross dresser should be held accountable.

Do we know where exactly the kid was shot? Head, chest,back,abdomen? I am guessing chest wound through the heart or liver but I would like to know.

What is all this talk of cross dressing by shooter? Can someone post something on the guy please. I googled him and found nothing. Please show me some link on this faggot.

Tough to type by true:

Mother of two typical teenage boys

Good kids, good grades, athletic and play on HS teams

They test me and do dumb things....

Last year alarm goes off at 2:15 in the morning; forced entry. Those who attempted entry bolted, thank God! Police responded very quickly, here for hours and determined attempted entry, busted screen downstairs in utility room, foot prints, etc.

Fast forward; took shooting lessons, practice, practice, practice and hope I never have to use the gun I purchased ever but know that if someone ever came into the home I would protect my kids. We have talked long and hard about telling friends not to do stupid stuff at our home ever; my kids included.

I hate guns but know that I'll not put my family through that night again.

WingNut Wrote:
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> Shooter may have been waiting all his life for a
> legal excuse to pop someone?


This^

Several gunslingers at work today were absolutely green with envy. They have wet dreams about getting a legal human kill. Few, if any ever will.

They're all hunters too. They invest tens of thousands of dollars on their hunting equipment. They swear up and down that they just really, really love that nasty deer meat. It's all a smokescreen, they just want to kill something, and since legal human shots are so rare, Bambi will do.

He would still be alive today if he went to a local cougar bar. He would have some extra spending money as a result too.

Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
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> This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots neighbors.
> Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but
> cross dresser should be held accountable.

You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact that a
person might know an intruder create an obligation of any
kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this case,
it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly invaded the
home.

A black family lives next to me. We've had our differences
at time but generally keep it at least civil. If I awake
at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I recognize
who it is, do I have any responsibility to further determine
his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior to employing
deadly force against what I perceive as a threat to myself
and/or my family?

Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I grab my gun
and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain of where
my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I fully intend
to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the house. I move
slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a high-output LED, is
intended when used to disorient at least momentarily anyone I
encounter, just long enough to make that double-tap count. I do
not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop them and the
surest way to do that is to kill them.

And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than I am. How would
one know the age of an assailant under those conditions? Can a
16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger? Wield a knife?

If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too late.

Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
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>
> This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but
> cross dresser should be held accountable.

Stay the fuck out of other people's homes and you dont have to worry about any of this.

A Realistic View Wrote:
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> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact
> that a
> person might know an intruder create an obligation
> of any
> kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this
> case,
> it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly
> invaded the
> home.
>
> A black family lives next to me. We've had our
> differences
> at time but generally keep it at least civil. If
> I awake
> at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I
> recognize
> who it is, do I have any responsibility to further
> determine
> his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior
> to employing
> deadly force against what I perceive as a threat
> to myself
> and/or my family?
>
> Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I
> grab my gun
> and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain
> of where
> my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I
> fully intend
> to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the
> house. I move
> slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a
> high-output LED, is
> intended when used to disorient at least
> momentarily anyone I
> encounter, just long enough to make that
> double-tap count. I do
> not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop
> them and the
> surest way to do that is to kill them.
>
> And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than
> I am. How would
> one know the age of an assailant under those
> conditions? Can a
> 16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger?
> Wield a knife?
>
> If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too
> late.

The flashlight would be enough. Did your little rehearsed statement get you off?
And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?

A Realistic View Wrote:
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> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact
> that a
> person might know an intruder create an obligation
> of any
> kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this
> case,
> it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly
> invaded the
> home.
>
> A black family lives next to me. We've had our
> differences
> at time but generally keep it at least civil. If
> I awake
> at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I
> recognize
> who it is, do I have any responsibility to further
> determine
> his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior
> to employing
> deadly force against what I perceive as a threat
> to myself
> and/or my family?
>
> Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I
> grab my gun
> and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain
> of where
> my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I
> fully intend
> to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the
> house. I move
> slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a
> high-output LED, is
> intended when used to disorient at least
> momentarily anyone I
> encounter, just long enough to make that
> double-tap count. I do
> not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop
> them and the
> surest way to do that is to kill them.
>
> And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than
> I am. How would
> one know the age of an assailant under those
> conditions? Can a
> 16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger?
> Wield a knife?
>
> If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too
> late.

If cross dresser is a firefighter then waking at 2:30am is nothing.
Senses are alert and full attention so no excuse.
And the kid was his neighbor.
This stinks of bullshit.

Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> > neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> Stay the fuck out of other people's homes and you
> dont have to worry about any of this.


^^^ The kid fucked up. I'm not sure what went down in that house, There is only one person who is alive that knows. Fuck, If I wake up to a house alarm at 2:30am and I'm armed and see a person I do not know in my house, It's defcon 1. you have limited seconds to make a choice.
It's a fucked up deal. I hope I'm never put in that situation,
I feel bad for all involved.

The only REAL thing to take out of this is:

WORMFOOD

Don't shoot your own kids Wrote:
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> The flashlight would be enough. Did your little
> rehearsed statement get you off?
> And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?

The flashlight would be enough for what? To identify
that there's an intruder in my house, someone I do or
do not know, and by lighting him up I've lost time to
react and revealed myself to him, giving him time to
act?

Like I said, once I know where my family is, what obligation
exists except to protect them by whatever means necessary?

You didn't answer the question on knowing an intruder.
Did that part confuse you?

And what do swatstikas have to do with this discussion?
That's a poor way to obfuscate the issues when you're losing.

A Realistic View Wrote:
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> Don't shoot your own kids Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The flashlight would be enough. Did your little
> > rehearsed statement get you off?
> > And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?
>
> The flashlight would be enough for what? To
> identify
> that there's an intruder in my house, someone I do
> or
> do not know, and by lighting him up I've lost time
> to
> react and revealed myself to him, giving him time
> to
> act?
>
> Like I said, once I know where my family is, what
> obligation
> exists except to protect them by whatever means
> necessary?
>
> You didn't answer the question on knowing an
> intruder.
> Did that part confuse you?
>
> And what do swatstikas have to do with this
> discussion?
> That's a poor way to obfuscate the issues when
> you're losing.


I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts decades ago.
You're the one who had to mention "black".
You stated you don't like your neighbors so your posting indicates you want the chance.
My friends are also my neighbors and if a young teenager came into my home I would calm him down and call his parents. I prefer having a beer with my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
Guns are the very last resort and I hope you never have to make that decision.
It can ruin a good nights sleep.

Neighbors in my hood Wrote:
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> I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts decades ago.
> You're the one who had to mention "black".
> You stated you don't like your neighbors so your
> posting indicates you want the chance.
> My friends are also my neighbors and if a young
> teenager came into my home I would calm him down
> and call his parents. I prefer having a beer with
> my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
> Guns are the very last resort and I hope you never
> have to make that decision. It can ruin a good nights sleep.

Black, asian, hispanic... green, orange or purple. I cited black
because there's a black family next door, and we don't always get
along. Does the fact that there's a black family in close proximity
obligate me to establish identity, condition and intent should
I find an intruder, black or otherwise, in my home? I hold not.

You seem to feel that teenagers are less capable of inflicting
harm and may just be in the middle of a youthful bad decision.
I would not wait for establishment of such, given that the
hesitation could be a fatal mistake on my part. The law backs
me up. Do what you feel is best for safety of your family, and
I will do likewise.

I agree that guns are a last resort, but need for them becomes
paramount when a threat presents itself. An intruder in your home
is such a threat. I hope I never have to shoot, but I hope less
to ever regret not shooting when my family's safety is at risk
and I had the means to eliminate the threat. In the meantime, I
have strong locks, clearly defined property boundaries, and an
alarm. Once those lines are crossed, the guns are the solution
that moves to the front of the line in dealing with those who
ignore the former.

"My friends are also my neighbors and if a young teenager came into my home I would calm him down and call his parents."

I keep reading that "if I saw my neighbors kid", "if I saw a drunk teenager", etc.. "I would kick him out or calm him down or injur him with a non-lethal shot".

But you don't know if the lights were on or if it was a dark stairway at 230am. You also don't know what interaction took place on those stairs so you can't really judge someone for their actions without all the facts.

Tbone Wrote:
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> To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> anyone who provid ed the booze to this young man
> is. Get real n wake up.



Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending themselves with a handgun each year is as responsible for the shooting as the man with the gun.

A Realistic View Wrote:
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> Neighbors in my hood Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts
> decades ago.
> > You're the one who had to mention "black".
> > You stated you don't like your neighbors so
> your
> > posting indicates you want the chance.
> > My friends are also my neighbors and if a young
> > teenager came into my home I would calm him
> down
> > and call his parents. I prefer having a beer
> with
> > my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
> > Guns are the very last resort and I hope you
> never
> > have to make that decision. It can ruin a good
> nights sleep.
>
> Black, asian, hispanic... green, orange or purple.
> I cited black
> because there's a black family next door, and we
> don't always get
> along. Does the fact that there's a black family
> in close proximity
> obligate me to establish identity, condition and
> intent should
> I find an intruder, black or otherwise, in my
> home? I hold not.
>
> You seem to feel that teenagers are less capable
> of inflicting
> harm and may just be in the middle of a youthful
> bad decision.
> I would not wait for establishment of such, given
> that the
> hesitation could be a fatal mistake on my part.
> The law backs
> me up. Do what you feel is best for safety of
> your family, and
> I will do likewise.
>
> I agree that guns are a last resort, but need for
> them becomes
> paramount when a threat presents itself. An
> intruder in your home
> is such a threat. I hope I never have to shoot,
> but I hope less
> to ever regret not shooting when my family's
> safety is at risk
> and I had the means to eliminate the threat. In
> the meantime, I
> have strong locks, clearly defined property
> boundaries, and an
> alarm. Once those lines are crossed, the guns are
> the solution
> that moves to the front of the line in dealing
> with those who
> ignore the former.

You paranoid, bro?
The heart is my boundary.
"Love thy neighbor but don't get caught".
Sorry your life is about things.
Are you one of them "preppers"?

James Wrote:
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> Tbone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> > responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> > anyone who provid ed the booze to this young
> man
> > is. Get real n wake up.
>
>
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> you forgot 5. whoever own's that house that the
> party was at

Gordo makes a good point. Regardless of what the dead kid's parents feel, the popo are going after the alcohol-available home with gusto. Their troubles are only beginning.

I had the opportunity to take a "firearms safety" class a few years back. Some points that remain with me today regarding "most people" who suspect an intruder...

who have a firearm and a flashlight in the nightstand will grab the firearm and leave the light behind.

will fire five or more rounds at first, regardless of the target's reaction.

are likely to miss, even if aiming for the chest.

will not turn on the light in their bedroom, but will in the hall and downstairs.

are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.

will feel great remorse as soon as the shooting ends.

gunphyte Wrote:
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> I had the opportunity to take a "firearms safety"
> class a few years back. Some points that remain
> with me today regarding "most people" who suspect
> an intruder...
>
> who have a firearm and a flashlight in the
> nightstand will grab the firearm and leave the
> light behind.
>
> will fire five or more rounds at first, regardless
> of the target's reaction.
>
> are likely to miss, even if aiming for the chest.
>
> will not turn on the light in their bedroom, but
> will in the hall and downstairs.
>
> are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an
> unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.
>
> will feel great remorse as soon as the shooting
> ends.


All of the above is true with the exception of:

> are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an
> unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.

Although I know that it's legend and incidents are widely publicized when it happens, the facts are that's a very rare event. All you have to do is to see that is to look at the numbers of accidental shootings (even in total) and who they were shot by (CDC breaks this down or representative samples in their coding) versus the numbers of events involving use of guns by owners. Not even remotely close.

Now far many more relatives are *intentionally* shot by another but that's different matter.

I would like to thank the shooter for doing an excellent job in removing nigger scum from the planet. As soon as we determine your mailing address and the number of rounds expended we will reimburse you for the rounds. Additionally we will be sending you out a $50 gift card with our compliments. You probably have just saved the tax payers a ton of money in future prison costs.

We will handle billing the family of the niglet for the bullets and reimburse you directly.
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Holmer Jackson Wrote:
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> I would like to thank the shooter for doing an
> excellent job in removing nigger scum from the
> planet. As soon as we determine your mailing
> address and the number of rounds expended we will
> reimburse you for the rounds. Additionally we will
> be sending you out a $50 gift card with our
> compliments. You probably have just saved the tax
> payers a ton of money in future prison costs.
>
> We will handle billing the family of the niglet
> for the bullets and reimburse you directly.

How's that job at Hardee's working for you.
When you only offer a $50 gift card you gave yourself away.
America is a great country because we allow morons to voice their opinion.

Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal charges coming from this is crazy.

Civil on the other hand.....

Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against
> the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up
> in NOVA)
>
> [1] Typically deadly force is
> considered justified, and a defense of justifiable
> homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor
> reasonably fears imminent peril of death or
> serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The
> doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked,
> but a set of principles which is incorporated in
> some form in the law of most states. (emphasis mine)

It's always refreshing to see somebody back their opinion up with some research.

That said, how easy will it be to establish the shooter, who by all accounts was an upstanding dude --a fireman at that-- was in serious or grave physical danger?

Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year old, who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got so drunk that he crawled into the wrong home. Embarrassing case of somebody who can't handle their shit but hardly something to get shot over. Seems to be just a really unfortunate death, but it's understandable how in the middle of the night and pitch-black one could mistake an intruder's lack of a response to warning (may well have been drunk to the point of incoherency...after all he was in the wrong house) as an intent to kill or harm.

My guess is he'll walk, but what the fuck do I know.

I have you now.

The homeowner really had no way to know that he was dealing with a drunk 16 year old with no evil intent and friends who were quite likely pulling a deliberate prank on said 16 year old. What if he had been an tweaker with a gun looking for money for his next fix? As the story goes, he yelled at the kid to stop several times and only shot when he got close to his wife and kid.

It easy to say coulda shoulda woulda now that we know the facts, but those facts were not apparent at all at the time of the incident.

Prove that the shooter "yelled at the kid to stop several times".

Prove that he "only shot when he got close to his wife and kid".

Shut up if you don't know the facts.

I'm not a particularly social person, but I would recognize a kid that lived a house away from me, four or five houses away, in fact.

Like somebody said, this dude was probably a "go ahead, punk, make my day" type. He's been waiting for years for such an opportunity to present itself.

James Wrote:
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> >
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.

Im afraid you have lost what's left of your mind. Seek help now!

Can anyone please tell me where the kid was shot? Head, back, chest? If he was shot in the back then we have a problem. When is the medical report coming out to the public?

Guess what? The cops are going to release that info when this is still under investigation. The public does not have a right to know every detail in a case like this.

James Wrote:
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> Tbone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> > responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> > anyone who provid ed the booze to this young
> man
> > is. Get real n wake up.
>
>
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.

The NRA only uses stats from the FBI and police records. Are you saying the numbers they report are phoney?

Why was he drinking or wasted his only a 16 year old boy or was lol.

"I'm not a particularly social person, but I would recognize a kid that lived a house away from me, four or five houses away, in fact."

Oh really? So the fact that almost ever person under the age of 25 wears hooded sweatshirts all the time and that you know nothing about the lighting conditions in the stairwell you can say without a doubt that you would have recognized him?

BB*X Wrote:
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> "I'm not a particularly social person, but I would
> recognize a kid that lived a house away from me,
> four or five houses away, in fact."
>
> Oh really? So the fact that almost ever person
> under the age of 25 wears hooded sweatshirts all
> the time and that you know nothing about the
> lighting conditions in the stairwell you can say
> without a doubt that you would have recognized
> him?

The cross dresser is a firefighter. Experience when dealing with early morning dispatches should have taught him to stay calm and evaulate the
situation. A flashlight and knowing his own premise are automatic for a professional. Many other variables were probably involved but shooting the kid two doors down is not one.
Cross dresser took a human life and will be held responsible. This type of situation will be exploited for both gun nuts and anti gunners but the end result
is a child is dead.

i take it we havent heard about the status of that window yet, eh?

and yeah........good questions, stui - where was this boy shot?

Clobbersaurus Wrote:
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> Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal
> charges coming from this is crazy.
>
> Civil on the other hand.....


it has been established many times that there is no grounds for civil suit - clearly stated in the va law

ePL4h Wrote:
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> Clobbersaurus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal
> > charges coming from this is crazy.
> >
> > Civil on the other hand.....
>
>
> it has been established many times that there is
> no grounds for civil suit - clearly stated in the
> va law


not to mention the fact that the fam has put out that it forgives the neighbor.

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Wonder if the young mans' home has a burglar alarm that they actively employ.

Forgiving him doesnt prevent some bottom feeding shark lawyer convincing the family to proceed with a civil suit.

He/she will tell them he/she will get them millions just to make them go forward. He/she will sue everyone including the county, the HOA of there is one, and even the company who built the houses claiming it's their fault because the houses are similar.

Believe me, Ive seen how this shit plays out.

> Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year old,
> who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got so
> drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.

Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity of underage drinking? What other illegal activity can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing? Rape? Murder?

Logic Wrote:
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> > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> old,
> > who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got
> so
> > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
>
> Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity of
> underage drinking? What other illegal activity
> can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing?
> Rape? Murder?


Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age of 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I can't close the door. How bout you?

Glass Houses and the stone Wrote:
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> Logic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> > old,
> > > who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got
> > so
> > > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
> >
> > Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity
> of
> > underage drinking? What other illegal activity
> > can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing?
> > Rape? Murder?
>
>
> Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age of
> 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I
> can't close the door. How bout you?


Dick Cheney is a dicksucker

This young man was so drunk he broke into a home that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?

The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen still continued to go to the upstairs level of the home while the family feared for their lives.

The homeowner will live for the rest of his life knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his own.

I blame the kid!

The parents were smart to call out their child for being stupid. They forgave the shooter.

stui Wrote:
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> Glass Houses and the stone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Logic Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> > > old,
> > > > who also, by all accounts was a good kid,
> got
> > > so
> > > > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
> > >
> > > Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity
> > of
> > > underage drinking? What other illegal
> activity
> > > can one do and still be a good kid?
> Stealing?
> > > Rape? Murder?
> >
> >
> > Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age
> of
> > 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I
> > can't close the door. How bout you?
>
>
> Dick Cheney is a dicksucker
Personal knowledge or just being liable?

So sad but... Wrote:
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> This young man was so drunk he broke into a home
> that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?

he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to give her the fifty cents? or did you just not bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing how all this went down?
>
> The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> still continued to go to the upstairs level of the
> home while the family feared for their lives.
>

alarm system blaring? what crack have you been smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?


> The homeowner will live for the rest of his life
> knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> own.
>

o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down between child and homeowner now, eh?


> I blame the kid!
>

of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you ............. LoLz


> The parents were smart to call out their child for
> being stupid. They forgave the shooter.

yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt shove the coat hanger in far enough :(

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> So sad but... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This young man was so drunk he broke into a
> home
> > that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
>
>
> he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his
> friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look
> similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin
> that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when
> they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to
> give her the fifty cents? or did you just not
> bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing
> how all this went down?
> >
> > The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> > still continued to go to the upstairs level of
> the
> > home while the family feared for their lives.
> >
>
> alarm system blaring? what crack have you been
> smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
>
>
> > The homeowner will live for the rest of his
> life
> > knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> > own.
> >
>
> o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down
> between child and homeowner now, eh?
>
>
> > I blame the kid!
> >
>
> of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you
> ............. LoLz
>
>
> > The parents were smart to call out their child
> for
> > being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
>
> yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt
> shove the coat hanger in far enough :(


Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll Gordon BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.



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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> So sad but... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This young man was so drunk he broke into a
> home
> > that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
>
>
> he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his
> friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look
> similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin
> that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when
> they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to
> give her the fifty cents? or did you just not
> bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing
> how all this went down?
> >
> > The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> > still continued to go to the upstairs level of
> the
> > home while the family feared for their lives.
> >
>
> alarm system blaring? what crack have you been
> smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
>
>
> > The homeowner will live for the rest of his
> life
> > knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> > own.
> >
>
> o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down
> between child and homeowner now, eh?
>
>
> > I blame the kid!
> >
>
> of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you
> ............. LoLz
>
>
> > The parents were smart to call out their child
> for
> > being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
>
> yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt
> shove the coat hanger in far enough :(

As a true American entrepreneur I have been waiting for "Roe versus Wade" to be reversed. Been saving and storing coat hangers for the last 24 years.
Abortions and/or lobotomies are the future in healthcare and I'll be on the ground floor. I was thinking Manassas would be the appropriate starting point.
A two for one special during Grand Opening. Hopefully soon cause some of the hangers are starting to deteriorate.

>
>
> Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll Gordon
> BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
>
you understand that we we all know why you spend so much time

a) in love with on me
b) trying to get my attention
c) making original gifs for me

..........right? LoLz


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I can't believe the number of people here that have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30 in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person in the house to then calmly recognize the person, fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends and his family could have done hours before the shooting any one of which would have stopped this.

Qwest Wrote:
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> I can't believe the number of people here that
> have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30
> in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person
> in the house to then calmly recognize the person,
> fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't
> acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends
> and his family could have done hours before the
> shooting any one of which would have stopped this.

Very simple. If you are a cross dressing panty wearing nervous wreck you should't have a gun. He is a firefighter so nighttime situations are second nature to a professional.

Qwest Wrote:
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> I can't believe the number of people here that
> have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30
> in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person
> in the house to then calmly recognize the person,
> fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't
> acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends
> and his family could have done hours before the
> shooting any one of which would have stopped this.


ha ha ah ha ha
+1

"he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his friends dumped him off."

I don't know what you mean by dumped him off. His friend climbed a fence with him and gave him a boost to climb in a window. At this point he was now in the wrong house climbing the stairs so I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that "he didn't do it"

"alarm system blaring? what crack have you been smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?"

Imaginary alarm??? It cleary states in all accounts that the homeowner heard his house alarm go off.

"He is a firefighter so nighttime situations are second nature to a professional."

Right, he's a volunteer firefighter so that means he is trained in the use of firearms in highly stressful situations that occur in the middle of the night. If this story was about how he awoke to a fire coming in his back window at 230am then I would agree that his reaction would be second nature.

If you own a gun, make DAMN SURE that someone is intending to harm you before you kill them.

If a teenager got up for a drink of water, opened the window to get some air and had deadphones on, they too would have been blown away by RAMBO.

The guy needs to own his mistake.

Plus, if he is, violent toward women, I hope he goes to hell.

guns, how would YOU define if someone means you harm? I would think someone in my home at 0 dark thirty continuing to advance through the house while an alarm is sounding meets the definition. As for the rest of your post, either you don't understand what happened or you have been hitting the pipe.

guns, how would YOU define if someone means you harm? I would think someone in my home at 0 dark thirty continuing to advance through the house while an alarm is sounding meets the definition. As for the rest of your post, either you don't understand what happened or you have been hitting the pipe.

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> Gordon
> > BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
> >
> you understand that we we all know why you spend
> so much time
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> a) in love with on me
> b) trying to get my attention
> c) making original gifs for me
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No Gordon - per usual - you're wrong. You're whining like an abused girlfriend. "He beats me because he cares." What "we we all know" is that you're a first class asshole and troll who's posts run about 50/1 garbage and bullshit. That's what "we we all know". The self hatred you've exhibited here tells us all that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.


LoLz.......

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 21, 2013

Contact: Liz Mills, Director of Media Relations and Communications, 571-251-5568 (mobile)
Liz.mills@loudoun.gov

Update on Fatal Shooting on Pullman Court


Loudoun County, VA- The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office continues to investigate a shooting that occurred during the early morning hours of March 17th. Loudoun County Sheriff’s Deputies had been dispatched to the home in the 45900 block of Pullman Court for a report of a burglary with shots fired by the homeowner.

At this point in the investigation, it appears Caleb A. Gordley, 16, of Sterling, Virginia, mistakenly entered a neighbor’s residence on Pullman Court through a rear, unlocked window. There is no evidence to indicate Caleb entered the home with any further criminal intent. The 16-year-old Park View High School student lived on the same street as the home. Based on interviews, it was learned Caleb had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening.

The shooting took place shortly after 2:30AM Sunday when a resident reported that their house alarm was activated. As the homeowner went to investigate, he discovered an unknown male inside their home.

The homeowner reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner discharged his firearm several times. The teenager was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents of the house were located. The teenager lost his life at the scene.

At this point, it appears that the firearm used, a .40 caliber pistol, was legally owned. Several shell casings and rounds were recovered at the scene.

While the issue of these minors obtaining alcohol is separate from the actual shooting, the Sheriff’s Office is continuing to investigate the circumstances surrounding how it was obtained.

On Wednesday, Loudoun County Sheriff’s Detectives met with members of Caleb’s family to update them on the latest findings in the case and to detail the circumstances surrounding the incident. The homeowner and Caleb’s family remain cooperative in the investigation.

The case remains open pending a final report from the Medical Examiner’s Office, to include a toxicology report. The results of the investigation are being reviewed by the Office of the Loudoun County Commonwealth’s Attorney, but no final determination will be made until all the information has been received.

#1- he has a 16 year old daughter. If she was in the house or not, he is responsible for her protection as her father. GO DAD! I'm curious what'd you'd be saying if this drunk kid snuck in quietly and raped his daughter. I doubt with a child the same age he's out congratulating himself though.

#2 those "cross-dressing" comments stem from his divorce to AMY (daughter's mom) when she was trying to find a way to deny custody. The bitches who wrote those are a bunch of fat skanks who performed in the rocky horror picture show with Amy. His ex was..sorry, is a whore and any and all comment to that effect stem from her inability to be a human being. Mind you, her next hubby played a cross-dressing freak onstage.

He did the everything right, except the warning shot, he shoulda shot first, warned later, since it obviously didn't work anyway! But, hey even the kids parents don't blame him! Doesn't that speak volumes?! He took out a worthless loser (who for all any of you know) intened to go after his child that night. Don't be stupid, you won't get shot in your neighbors house. It's simple.

What a coward.

Yep, the kid was a real threat to him.

How many shots were fired?

How does a shot in the shoulder kill someone?

I bet his daughter hates him.

The guy is a hero. You enter someone's house without invitation you are asking to get shot. The law is crystal clear.

The results of the facts of this case are proof-positive. The cry-babies can whine all they want, but they sure as fuck won't enter someone's house illegally despite their hypcrotical protestations then or now here on this web log.

ps. I love my guns.

LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!

Johnny Galt Wrote:
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> The guy is a hero. You enter someone's house
> without invitation you are asking to get shot. The
> law is crystal clear.
>
> The results of the facts of this case are
> proof-positive. The cry-babies can whine all they
> want, but they sure as fuck won't enter someone's
> house illegally despite their hypcrotical
> protestations then or now here on this web log.
>
> ps. I love my guns.

When your guns are the only thing you have in life.
You gotta love something.

Shot in the left rear shoulder means he was basically shot in the back. How does a 40 caliber kill someone in the left rear shoulder? It had to have been upper spinal cord area where the bullet pierced through vital arteries. Left rear shoulder doesnt smell right.

HERO!

End of story...............

> Shot in the left rear shoulder means he was basically shot in the back. How does a 40 caliber kill someone in the left rear shoulder? It had to have been upper spinal cord area where the bullet pierced through vital arteries. Left rear shoulder doesnt smell right.

Sure Quincy.

Lets see how long you survive with your subclavian artery severed.

Puddin Taint Wrote:
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> While the issue of these minors obtaining alcohol
> is separate from the actual shooting, the
> Sheriff’s Office is continuing to investigate
> the circumstances surrounding how it was
> obtained.

Now I guess they'll get down to the causes. The alcohol issue isn't unrelated to the shooting, its abuse obviously led this individual to do what he did. The fact that he ended up shot dead in a stranger's house was a consequence, not the cause.

The public deserves more.

When will they release the 911 tape?