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Sterling shooting
Posted by:
C MAC
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:31PM
I know we are in Fairfax, but does anyone know what the fuck happened with that kid getting shot to death? How many shots were fired? The kid apparently lived two houses down. Was he that wasted that he walked in someone elses door? Wasnt the front door locked? Something doesnt smell right.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:39PM
Research is your friend, it may prevent you from making an ass out of yourself online.
"Caleb Gordley wanted to go to a party Saturday night. But the 16-year-old was grounded because he hadn’t cleaned his room. So he decided he’d sneak out of his Loudoun County house to be with his friends.
When he left the party at about 2 a.m., Caleb needed to sneak home. His friends dropped him off and helped hoist him through a back window. But Cabeb had been drinking and had gone to the wrong house. The brick homes on his street are similar, and Caleb was two doors down from his own.
The homeowner heard his burglar alarm sound, grabbed his gun and went to investigate. When the two met on the stairs inside the house, the man said he told the teen to leave and fired a warning shot, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation.
Caleb didn’t stop, and the homeowner fired again, striking and killing the teen, the official said."
"Caleb Gordley wanted to go to a party Saturday night. But the 16-year-old was grounded because he hadn’t cleaned his room. So he decided he’d sneak out of his Loudoun County house to be with his friends.
When he left the party at about 2 a.m., Caleb needed to sneak home. His friends dropped him off and helped hoist him through a back window. But Cabeb had been drinking and had gone to the wrong house. The brick homes on his street are similar, and Caleb was two doors down from his own.
The homeowner heard his burglar alarm sound, grabbed his gun and went to investigate. When the two met on the stairs inside the house, the man said he told the teen to leave and fired a warning shot, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation.
Caleb didn’t stop, and the homeowner fired again, striking and killing the teen, the official said."
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Bad timing
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:39PM
He came in through a window, alarm went off, owner finds him going up the stair case toward the bedroom, Owner unloads on him. Case Closed.
I knew a former construction boss who back in the early 80's went into the wrong house drunk, thinking it was his. He ended up passed out on the couch, woke up to a kid yelling to his parents that a strange man was sleeping on the couch. He was lucky that he was not shot.
I sounds crazy, but It's a true story. I feel bad for all that were involved.
I knew a former construction boss who back in the early 80's went into the wrong house drunk, thinking it was his. He ended up passed out on the couch, woke up to a kid yelling to his parents that a strange man was sleeping on the couch. He was lucky that he was not shot.
I sounds crazy, but It's a true story. I feel bad for all that were involved.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
been there
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:45PM
If it is anything like Ashburn it is easy to go into the wrong house.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
C MAC
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:46PM
Thanks for the info. His friends are total dumbasses for hoisting him in the wrong fucking house. All 3 of them were that wasted? Homeowner probably did the right thing but its a damb shame he couldnt have fired a non lethal shot to the leg.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Rocket 69
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:55PM
C MAC Wrote:
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> Thanks for the info. His friends are total
> dumbasses for hoisting him in the wrong fucking
> house. All 3 of them were that wasted? Homeowner
> probably did the right thing but its a damb shame
> he couldnt have fired a non lethal shot to the
> leg.
Jesus, you seem kind of stupid. Why don't you read an article about what happened? The internet is your friend. In case you have trouble finding the Post online, the neighbor fired a warning shot first.
On the other hand, if you're looking for a cheap house, there should be a couple available soon in Ashburn.
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> Thanks for the info. His friends are total
> dumbasses for hoisting him in the wrong fucking
> house. All 3 of them were that wasted? Homeowner
> probably did the right thing but its a damb shame
> he couldnt have fired a non lethal shot to the
> leg.
Jesus, you seem kind of stupid. Why don't you read an article about what happened? The internet is your friend. In case you have trouble finding the Post online, the neighbor fired a warning shot first.
On the other hand, if you're looking for a cheap house, there should be a couple available soon in Ashburn.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:56PM
C MAC Wrote:
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> Homeowner
> probably did the right thing but its a damb shame
> he couldnt have fired a non lethal shot to the
> leg.
You have watched too many TV shows and movies.
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> Homeowner
> probably did the right thing but its a damb shame
> he couldnt have fired a non lethal shot to the
> leg.
You have watched too many TV shows and movies.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Jerome
()
Date: March 18, 2013 09:58PM
Another Trayvon Martin case. White man shooting unarmed black teen. This must stop.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
reality
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:03PM
Same theme as the IHOP kid, Travon Martin, etc.
1. Unsupervised teenager wandering about drunked/stoned/etc long after their irresponsible parents should have called lights out
2. Commits second crime - typically property
3. Encounters sober and armed citizen not willing to look the other way
4. Ignores lawful order by citizen to stop/leave/etc and continues toward armed citizen
5. Citizen shoots - teenager dead
Tragedy could have been avoided by:
1. Not drinking
2. Not wandering around in the dead night
3. Stopping when the alarm went off
4. Stopping when the homeowner confronted him
This kid had lots of chances to avoid this. It's very, very sad, but it's no one's fault but the kids.
1. Unsupervised teenager wandering about drunked/stoned/etc long after their irresponsible parents should have called lights out
2. Commits second crime - typically property
3. Encounters sober and armed citizen not willing to look the other way
4. Ignores lawful order by citizen to stop/leave/etc and continues toward armed citizen
5. Citizen shoots - teenager dead
Tragedy could have been avoided by:
1. Not drinking
2. Not wandering around in the dead night
3. Stopping when the alarm went off
4. Stopping when the homeowner confronted him
This kid had lots of chances to avoid this. It's very, very sad, but it's no one's fault but the kids.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:04PM
And if a drunk kid crawls thru my window at 230am and sets off my alarm, youre gonna have Trayvon Martin 3. Why dont these niggers keep their kids at home, none of this would happen?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Mike O
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:06PM
reality Wrote:
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> Same theme as the IHOP kid, Travon Martin, etc.
>
> 1. Unsupervised teenager wandering about
> drunked/stoned/etc long after their irresponsible
> parents should have called lights out
> 2. Commits second crime - typically property
> 3. Encounters sober and armed citizen not willing
> to look the other way
> 4. Ignores lawful order by citizen to
> stop/leave/etc and continues toward armed citizen
> 5. Citizen shoots - teenager dead
>
> Tragedy could have been avoided by:
>
> 1. Not drinking
> 2. Not wandering around in the dead night
> 3. Stopping when the alarm went off
> 4. Stopping when the homeowner confronted him
>
> This kid had lots of chances to avoid this. It's
> very, very sad, but it's no one's fault but the
> kids.
Amen!
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> Same theme as the IHOP kid, Travon Martin, etc.
>
> 1. Unsupervised teenager wandering about
> drunked/stoned/etc long after their irresponsible
> parents should have called lights out
> 2. Commits second crime - typically property
> 3. Encounters sober and armed citizen not willing
> to look the other way
> 4. Ignores lawful order by citizen to
> stop/leave/etc and continues toward armed citizen
> 5. Citizen shoots - teenager dead
>
> Tragedy could have been avoided by:
>
> 1. Not drinking
> 2. Not wandering around in the dead night
> 3. Stopping when the alarm went off
> 4. Stopping when the homeowner confronted him
>
> This kid had lots of chances to avoid this. It's
> very, very sad, but it's no one's fault but the
> kids.
Amen!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:09PM
It's illegal to drink at age 16, look how well that law worked.
Too bad for the kid and his family, but he was obviously being quite the dumbfuck and paid the ultimate in accountability.
Too bad for the kid and his family, but he was obviously being quite the dumbfuck and paid the ultimate in accountability.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Famous Last Wordz
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:35PM
Just an FYI for anyone interested, there is another thread about this in the off-topic section as well.....Another Trayvon Martin?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
James
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:41PM
The homeowner was on the telephone with the 911 dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay in a locked room. He disregarded the suggestion, came out armed, and shot the boy.
He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on it.
He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on it.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:43PM
Youre not in Sanford any more Mr Martin
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stuff happens
()
Date: March 18, 2013 10:57PM
James Wrote:
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> The homeowner was on the telephone with the 911
> dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay in a
> locked room. He disregarded the suggestion, came
> out armed, and shot the boy.
>
> He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on it.
Uh, I think we've been through this before.
You don't have to obey a dispatcher's suggestion.
He may be charged with manslaughter as many are in similar unintentional killings but he won't be convicted on the basis that he didn't heed a dispatcher's advice.
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> The homeowner was on the telephone with the 911
> dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay in a
> locked room. He disregarded the suggestion, came
> out armed, and shot the boy.
>
> He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on it.
Uh, I think we've been through this before.
You don't have to obey a dispatcher's suggestion.
He may be charged with manslaughter as many are in similar unintentional killings but he won't be convicted on the basis that he didn't heed a dispatcher's advice.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:01PM
Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up in NOVA)
And here's why: A Castle Doctrine (also known as a Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an American legal doctrine that designates a person's abode (or, in some states, any place legally occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a place in which the person has certain protections and immunities and may in certain circumstances use force, up to and including deadly force, to defend against an intruder without becoming liable to prosecution.[1] Typically deadly force is considered justified, and a defense of justifiable homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor reasonably fears imminent peril of death or serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked, but a set of principles which is incorporated in some form in the law of most states.
And here's why: A Castle Doctrine (also known as a Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an American legal doctrine that designates a person's abode (or, in some states, any place legally occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a place in which the person has certain protections and immunities and may in certain circumstances use force, up to and including deadly force, to defend against an intruder without becoming liable to prosecution.[1] Typically deadly force is considered justified, and a defense of justifiable homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor reasonably fears imminent peril of death or serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked, but a set of principles which is incorporated in some form in the law of most states.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
sucksbutwhatwouldyoudo
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:12PM
230 am and an intruder in coming up the stairs where the guy and his family sleep. Guy encounters intruder on the stairs. There is no way the homeowner knows the intruders intentions. What if the intruder had bad intentions and shot the homeowner, then continued to walk past the dead corpse and murder the rest of the family. The homewoner eliminated any chance of that from happening.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Youall
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:19PM
Imagine how the poor guy that shot him is feeling.
I wouldn't wish that weight on anybody - I hope he holds up through this traumatitic event.
It must be tuff!
I wouldn't wish that weight on anybody - I hope he holds up through this traumatitic event.
It must be tuff!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
bad stuff
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:21PM
sucksbutwhatwouldyoudo Wrote:
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> 230 am and an intruder in coming up the stairs
> where the guy and his family sleep. Guy encounters
> intruder on the stairs. There is no way the
> homeowner knows the intruders intentions. What if
> the intruder had bad intentions and shot the
> homeowner, then continued to walk past the dead
> corpse and murder the rest of the family. The
> homewoner eliminated any chance of that from
> happening.
Agree, It really sucks and is a shitty deal. put yourself in the homeowners situation. I don't know anyone that would have not pulled the trigger. It's a fucked up deal, I feel bad for everyone involved.
I would have shot also and I would have felt like shit finding out why the kid was in my house.
It's just a fucked up situation.
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> 230 am and an intruder in coming up the stairs
> where the guy and his family sleep. Guy encounters
> intruder on the stairs. There is no way the
> homeowner knows the intruders intentions. What if
> the intruder had bad intentions and shot the
> homeowner, then continued to walk past the dead
> corpse and murder the rest of the family. The
> homewoner eliminated any chance of that from
> happening.
Agree, It really sucks and is a shitty deal. put yourself in the homeowners situation. I don't know anyone that would have not pulled the trigger. It's a fucked up deal, I feel bad for everyone involved.
I would have shot also and I would have felt like shit finding out why the kid was in my house.
It's just a fucked up situation.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
One Less Maggot
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:24PM
Natural Selection......we are over populated....oh well, "he was a rapper" bwhaha
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Not in VA
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:30PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against
> the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up
> in NOVA)
>
> And here's why: A Castle Doctrine (also known as a
> Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an
> American legal doctrine that designates a person's
> abode (or, in some states, any place legally
> occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a
> place in which the person has certain protections
> and immunities and may in certain circumstances
> use force, up to and including deadly force, to
> defend against an intruder without becoming liable
> to prosecution.[1] Typically deadly force is
> considered justified, and a defense of justifiable
> homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor
> reasonably fears imminent peril of death or
> serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The
> doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked,
> but a set of principles which is incorporated in
> some form in the law of most states.
Don't think Castle Doctrine specifically applies in VA. As I recall there was a bill proposed last session but it didn't go through for whatever reason.
That said, there are similar general principles which would apply with respect to self defense within one's home.
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> Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against
> the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up
> in NOVA)
>
> And here's why: A Castle Doctrine (also known as a
> Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an
> American legal doctrine that designates a person's
> abode (or, in some states, any place legally
> occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a
> place in which the person has certain protections
> and immunities and may in certain circumstances
> use force, up to and including deadly force, to
> defend against an intruder without becoming liable
> to prosecution.[1] Typically deadly force is
> considered justified, and a defense of justifiable
> homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor
> reasonably fears imminent peril of death or
> serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The
> doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked,
> but a set of principles which is incorporated in
> some form in the law of most states.
Don't think Castle Doctrine specifically applies in VA. As I recall there was a bill proposed last session but it didn't go through for whatever reason.
That said, there are similar general principles which would apply with respect to self defense within one's home.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
1-maggot
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:31PM
And you sir, are a piece of shit.
The longer you spout out crap the worst things get.
Move to New Mexico and build yourself the underground shelter you have been pinning for.
Asshole!~
The longer you spout out crap the worst things get.
Move to New Mexico and build yourself the underground shelter you have been pinning for.
Asshole!~
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Johnny Chimpo
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:40PM
The castle doctrine does not apply, but the Virginia has strong common law to protect the homeowner. Treyvaon was on the street, not the same thing.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:43PM
This is the VA specific statute....seems pretty clear to me!
§ 18.2-91.1. Use of physical force, including deadly force, against an intruder; justified self-defense.
Any person who lawfully occupies a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when the other person has unlawfully entered the dwelling, having committed an overt act toward the occupant or another person in the dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he or another person in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily injury.
Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, as provided in this section shall be immune from civil liability for injuries or death of the other person who has unlawfully entered the dwelling that results from the use of such force.
§ 18.2-91.1. Use of physical force, including deadly force, against an intruder; justified self-defense.
Any person who lawfully occupies a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when the other person has unlawfully entered the dwelling, having committed an overt act toward the occupant or another person in the dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he or another person in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily injury.
Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, as provided in this section shall be immune from civil liability for injuries or death of the other person who has unlawfully entered the dwelling that results from the use of such force.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Okidoki
()
Date: March 18, 2013 11:50PM
The legality of it all is not in question.
It is a bad circumstance that caused the situation and the people involved are heartbroken - on both sides.
"Teen coming home drunk" - I bet a lot of you people can relate. :)
For the better of FFXU - realize the enormity of the situation and be good citizens for a change.
Or not...
It is a bad circumstance that caused the situation and the people involved are heartbroken - on both sides.
"Teen coming home drunk" - I bet a lot of you people can relate. :)
For the better of FFXU - realize the enormity of the situation and be good citizens for a change.
Or not...
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Johnny Chimpo
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:01AM
You still have to fear for your life to kill a home invader. Not sure I buy the honest mistake defense.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
No way out
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:32AM
"having committed an overt act toward the occupant or another person in the dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he or another person in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily injury".
Statute shows exactly what elements are needed ...
He had to have commmited an overt act...So the question is if his failure to stop when warned meets this or did he do something else that isnt in the paper ?
Occupant has to believe he or other is in IMMINENT danger of (not death) but bodily injury...this is where he should have listened to he dispatcher, chances are good he had a duty to retreat, if he had been in the room no retreat available,no problem...
Statute shows exactly what elements are needed ...
He had to have commmited an overt act...So the question is if his failure to stop when warned meets this or did he do something else that isnt in the paper ?
Occupant has to believe he or other is in IMMINENT danger of (not death) but bodily injury...this is where he should have listened to he dispatcher, chances are good he had a duty to retreat, if he had been in the room no retreat available,no problem...
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
shooter profile
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:45AM
Donald West Wilder II---google him.
If true, he is one scary, sick dude.
If true, he is one scary, sick dude.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Not in VA
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:35AM
No way out Wrote:
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> "having committed an overt act toward the occupant
> or another person in the dwelling, and the
> occupant reasonably believes he or another person
> in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily
> injury".
>
> Statute shows exactly what elements are needed
> ...
>
> He had to have commmited an overt act...So the
> question is if his failure to stop when warned
> meets this or did he do something else that isnt
> in the paper ?
>
> Occupant has to believe he or other is in IMMINENT
> danger of (not death) but bodily injury...this is
> where he should have listened to he dispatcher,
> chances are good he had a duty to retreat, if he
> had been in the room no retreat available,no
> problem...
Castle Doctrine generally goes beyond the criminal statutes to also extend to the civil side. And it's usually done in a stronger form which specifically prohibits criminal and civil prosecution in such cases. That is, if the situation meets the circumstances for use of deadly force, then there are no further legal questions/charges to answer.
There also is no specific "duty to retreat" in VA as there is in some states.
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> "having committed an overt act toward the occupant
> or another person in the dwelling, and the
> occupant reasonably believes he or another person
> in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily
> injury".
>
> Statute shows exactly what elements are needed
> ...
>
> He had to have commmited an overt act...So the
> question is if his failure to stop when warned
> meets this or did he do something else that isnt
> in the paper ?
>
> Occupant has to believe he or other is in IMMINENT
> danger of (not death) but bodily injury...this is
> where he should have listened to he dispatcher,
> chances are good he had a duty to retreat, if he
> had been in the room no retreat available,no
> problem...
Castle Doctrine generally goes beyond the criminal statutes to also extend to the civil side. And it's usually done in a stronger form which specifically prohibits criminal and civil prosecution in such cases. That is, if the situation meets the circumstances for use of deadly force, then there are no further legal questions/charges to answer.
There also is no specific "duty to retreat" in VA as there is in some states.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
sorry but no
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:15AM
James Wrote:
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> The homeowner was on the telephone with the 911
> dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay in a
> locked room. He disregarded the suggestion, came
> out armed, and shot the boy.
>
> He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on it.
I am open to a friendly bet on that one. This is Virginia and a home owners rights are respected. The home owner was under no obligation to follow what amounts to just advice from a 911 operator.
You of course ignored the fact if the guy had locked himself in his bedroom the rest of his family would have been on their own. Do you consider that sound judgement?
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> The homeowner was on the telephone with the 911
> dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay in a
> locked room. He disregarded the suggestion, came
> out armed, and shot the boy.
>
> He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on it.
I am open to a friendly bet on that one. This is Virginia and a home owners rights are respected. The home owner was under no obligation to follow what amounts to just advice from a 911 operator.
You of course ignored the fact if the guy had locked himself in his bedroom the rest of his family would have been on their own. Do you consider that sound judgement?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Exactly
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:49AM
sorry but no Wrote:
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> James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The homeowner was on the telephone with the 911
> > dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay in
> a
> > locked room. He disregarded the suggestion,
> came
> > out armed, and shot the boy.
> >
> > He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on
> it.
>
> I am open to a friendly bet on that one. This is
> Virginia and a home owners rights are respected.
> The home owner was under no obligation to follow
> what amounts to just advice from a 911 operator.
>
> You of course ignored the fact if the guy had
> locked himself in his bedroom the rest of his
> family would have been on their own. Do you
> consider that sound judgement?
My bedroom door is on one side of the upstairs and my kids' bedrooms are on the other side of the staircase, separated by a guest room and laundry.
No way would I yell for them to, "Just lock your door," and then pretend they're going to be OK while an unknown number of strangers have invaded my home. No way.
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> James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The homeowner was on the telephone with the 911
> > dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay in
> a
> > locked room. He disregarded the suggestion,
> came
> > out armed, and shot the boy.
> >
> > He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on
> it.
>
> I am open to a friendly bet on that one. This is
> Virginia and a home owners rights are respected.
> The home owner was under no obligation to follow
> what amounts to just advice from a 911 operator.
>
> You of course ignored the fact if the guy had
> locked himself in his bedroom the rest of his
> family would have been on their own. Do you
> consider that sound judgement?
My bedroom door is on one side of the upstairs and my kids' bedrooms are on the other side of the staircase, separated by a guest room and laundry.
No way would I yell for them to, "Just lock your door," and then pretend they're going to be OK while an unknown number of strangers have invaded my home. No way.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
nostradamus
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:00AM
google the shooter
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
James
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:04AM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against
> the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up
> in NOVA)
>
> And here's why: A Castle Doctrine (also known as a
> Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an
> American legal doctrine that designates a person's
> abode (or, in some states, any place legally
> occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a
> place in which the person has certain protections
> and immunities and may in certain circumstances
> use force, up to and including deadly force, to
> defend against an intruder without becoming liable
> to prosecution.[1] Typically deadly force is
> considered justified, and a defense of justifiable
> homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor
> reasonably fears imminent peril of death or
> serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The
> doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked,
> but a set of principles which is incorporated in
> some form in the law of most states.
Virginia does not have the "Castle Doctrine".
-------------------------------------------------------
> Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against
> the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up
> in NOVA)
>
> And here's why: A Castle Doctrine (also known as a
> Castle Law or a Defense of Habitation Law) is an
> American legal doctrine that designates a person's
> abode (or, in some states, any place legally
> occupied, such as a car or place of work) as a
> place in which the person has certain protections
> and immunities and may in certain circumstances
> use force, up to and including deadly force, to
> defend against an intruder without becoming liable
> to prosecution.[1] Typically deadly force is
> considered justified, and a defense of justifiable
> homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor
> reasonably fears imminent peril of death or
> serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The
> doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked,
> but a set of principles which is incorporated in
> some form in the law of most states.
Virginia does not have the "Castle Doctrine".
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:09AM
sucksbutwhatwouldyoudo Wrote:
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> 230 am and an intruder in coming up the stairs
> where the guy and his family sleep. Guy encounters
> intruder on the stairs. There is no way the
> homeowner knows the intruders intentions. What if
> the intruder had bad intentions and shot the
> homeowner, then continued to walk past the dead
> corpse and murder the rest of the family. The
> homewoner eliminated any chance of that from
> happening.
+1
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> 230 am and an intruder in coming up the stairs
> where the guy and his family sleep. Guy encounters
> intruder on the stairs. There is no way the
> homeowner knows the intruders intentions. What if
> the intruder had bad intentions and shot the
> homeowner, then continued to walk past the dead
> corpse and murder the rest of the family. The
> homewoner eliminated any chance of that from
> happening.
+1
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Diehard Lib
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:13AM
The homeowner should've welcomed the thug in to rape his wife and daughter, take all the valuables, and kill the homeowner. That's lib thinking.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:18AM
Exactly Wrote:
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> sorry but no Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > James Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The homeowner was on the telephone with the
> 911
> > > dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay
> in
> > a
> > > locked room. He disregarded the suggestion,
> > came
> > > out armed, and shot the boy.
> > >
> > > He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count
> on
> > it.
> >
> > I am open to a friendly bet on that one. This
> is
> > Virginia and a home owners rights are
> respected.
> > The home owner was under no obligation to
> follow
> > what amounts to just advice from a 911 operator.
>
> >
> > You of course ignored the fact if the guy had
> > locked himself in his bedroom the rest of his
> > family would have been on their own. Do you
> > consider that sound judgement?
>
>
> My bedroom door is on one side of the upstairs and
> my kids' bedrooms are on the other side of the
> staircase, separated by a guest room and laundry.
>
>
> No way would I yell for them to, "Just lock your
> door," and then pretend they're going to be OK
> while an unknown number of strangers have invaded
> my home. No way.
Homeowner does not have to follow the directions of the 911 operator. What a dispatcher says is not law.
It doesn't matter now if people on the INTERNET say the guy is a pantywearing/pantysniffing, white power gun nut or a monk- this shooter only has to defend himself from the facts of an intruder at 2:30AM. And not one that mistakenly came thru the front door, but one who mistakenly came thru the BACK FUCKING WINDOW.
Too many guns?
Too many drunk kids.
-------------------------------------------------------
> sorry but no Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > James Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The homeowner was on the telephone with the
> 911
> > > dispatcher. The disptcher told him to stay
> in
> > a
> > > locked room. He disregarded the suggestion,
> > came
> > > out armed, and shot the boy.
> > >
> > > He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count
> on
> > it.
> >
> > I am open to a friendly bet on that one. This
> is
> > Virginia and a home owners rights are
> respected.
> > The home owner was under no obligation to
> follow
> > what amounts to just advice from a 911 operator.
>
> >
> > You of course ignored the fact if the guy had
> > locked himself in his bedroom the rest of his
> > family would have been on their own. Do you
> > consider that sound judgement?
>
>
> My bedroom door is on one side of the upstairs and
> my kids' bedrooms are on the other side of the
> staircase, separated by a guest room and laundry.
>
>
> No way would I yell for them to, "Just lock your
> door," and then pretend they're going to be OK
> while an unknown number of strangers have invaded
> my home. No way.
Homeowner does not have to follow the directions of the 911 operator. What a dispatcher says is not law.
It doesn't matter now if people on the INTERNET say the guy is a pantywearing/pantysniffing, white power gun nut or a monk- this shooter only has to defend himself from the facts of an intruder at 2:30AM. And not one that mistakenly came thru the front door, but one who mistakenly came thru the BACK FUCKING WINDOW.
Too many guns?
Too many drunk kids.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Johnny Chimpo
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:18AM
Lesson 1: Don't enter someone else's house.
Lesson 2: You will get shot, if you do.
Lesson 2: You will get shot, if you do.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
DISHboy
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:25AM
Lesson 3: Ditch cable and get DISH so you have interesting movies to watch instead of going to a dipstick party to get drunk.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:30AM
The more I read about this the more Im thinking this was just a plain old B & E and the whole story about being drunk with his friends is a fabrication.
A burglar got blown away..........oh well, dont be a burglar kids.
A burglar got blown away..........oh well, dont be a burglar kids.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
The Gate Keeper
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:18AM
I kind of find this funny, a drunk "rapper" gets smoked while commiting a crime.....feel good story of the day!!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
beach man
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:26AM
the homeowner did nothing wrong. He told the teen he was armed and asked him to leave numerous times. He only shot the teen when the teen was at the bedroom door where his wife and son were hiding
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
blanche
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:53AM
I understand the kids hopping a fence and going into the wrong house. Even the alarm going off.
But how drunk to you have to be not to sober up real quick when someone gives you a warning shot. "Dad, is that you?"
But how drunk to you have to be not to sober up real quick when someone gives you a warning shot. "Dad, is that you?"
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Drunk as hell
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:01AM
blanche Wrote:
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> I understand the kids hopping a fence and going
> into the wrong house. Even the alarm going off.
>
> But how drunk to you have to be not to sober up
> real quick when someone gives you a warning shot.
> "Dad, is that you?"
Seriously.
Toxicology report probably comes back with a BAC of 0.20 or higher.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I understand the kids hopping a fence and going
> into the wrong house. Even the alarm going off.
>
> But how drunk to you have to be not to sober up
> real quick when someone gives you a warning shot.
> "Dad, is that you?"
Seriously.
Toxicology report probably comes back with a BAC of 0.20 or higher.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
the dead can't speak
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:04AM
How dumb are you people?
Our shooter friend has told his side of the story. Too bad the dead kid can't tell us what really happened.
Think about it. His friend lifted him into what they thought was his house. Multiple witnesses will verify that. So stop with the burglary crap.
The kid is drunk and disoriented and then someone shouts out to him.
He probably wet his pants he was so scared. He was not a threat--no way. Probably realized he was in the wrong place and tried to get out.
That's when RAMBO (aka pscycho ex boyfriend/husband) pumped bullet (s) into him--probably as he was trying to escape.
Self defense? Yea, right.
Our shooter friend has told his side of the story. Too bad the dead kid can't tell us what really happened.
Think about it. His friend lifted him into what they thought was his house. Multiple witnesses will verify that. So stop with the burglary crap.
The kid is drunk and disoriented and then someone shouts out to him.
He probably wet his pants he was so scared. He was not a threat--no way. Probably realized he was in the wrong place and tried to get out.
That's when RAMBO (aka pscycho ex boyfriend/husband) pumped bullet (s) into him--probably as he was trying to escape.
Self defense? Yea, right.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:12AM
^ Idiot
The moral to this story is three fold.
(1) If youre 16, you shouldnt be out getting hammered out of your mind at 2am.
(2) Learn which house you live in
(3) Dont break into people's homes
The moral to this story is three fold.
(1) If youre 16, you shouldnt be out getting hammered out of your mind at 2am.
(2) Learn which house you live in
(3) Dont break into people's homes
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:18AM
the dead can't speak Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> How dumb are you people?
>
> Our shooter friend has told his side of the story.
> Too bad the dead kid can't tell us what really
> happened.
>
> Think about it. His friend lifted him into what
> they thought was his house. Multiple witnesses
> will verify that. So stop with the burglary crap.
>
> The kid is drunk and disoriented and then someone
> shouts out to him.
>
> He probably wet his pants he was so scared. He was
> not a threat--no way. Probably realized he was in
> the wrong place and tried to get out.
>
> That's when RAMBO (aka pscycho ex
> boyfriend/husband) pumped bullet (s) into
> him--probably as he was trying to escape.
>
>
> Self defense? Yea, right.
Yeah dickwad, happens all the time... I can't count on both hands the number of times I crawled thru the window of the wrong house when I was pissfaced.
Could have happened to anyone.
Tragedy it is, neither the shooter or the intruder was PERFECT.
-------------------------------------------------------
> How dumb are you people?
>
> Our shooter friend has told his side of the story.
> Too bad the dead kid can't tell us what really
> happened.
>
> Think about it. His friend lifted him into what
> they thought was his house. Multiple witnesses
> will verify that. So stop with the burglary crap.
>
> The kid is drunk and disoriented and then someone
> shouts out to him.
>
> He probably wet his pants he was so scared. He was
> not a threat--no way. Probably realized he was in
> the wrong place and tried to get out.
>
> That's when RAMBO (aka pscycho ex
> boyfriend/husband) pumped bullet (s) into
> him--probably as he was trying to escape.
>
>
> Self defense? Yea, right.
Yeah dickwad, happens all the time... I can't count on both hands the number of times I crawled thru the window of the wrong house when I was pissfaced.
Could have happened to anyone.
Tragedy it is, neither the shooter or the intruder was PERFECT.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
A Question
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:22AM
Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some non lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
perfection?
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:24AM
> Tragedy it is, neither the shooter or the intruder
> was PERFECT.
DUH. But one is alive and one is dead.
Odds are you won't die in a plane. train or car crash either..and yet it happens every day.
> was PERFECT.
DUH. But one is alive and one is dead.
Odds are you won't die in a plane. train or car crash either..and yet it happens every day.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:26AM
A Question Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some non
> lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
Because neither of us were there.
Kid may have thought the homeowner was an intruder in HIS house and bucked?
Shooter may not be a good shot and may have tried?
Shooter may have been waiting all his life for a legal excuse to pop someone?
Leg shots can be fatal. Ask Sean Taylor.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some non
> lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
Because neither of us were there.
Kid may have thought the homeowner was an intruder in HIS house and bucked?
Shooter may not be a good shot and may have tried?
Shooter may have been waiting all his life for a legal excuse to pop someone?
Leg shots can be fatal. Ask Sean Taylor.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
a better outcome
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:32AM
Christopher Paul Silga was drunk and asleep on a couch cuddling a teddy bear.
The problem? He was in the house of a couple he did not know, and who did not know him.
The Mississippi Press reports that a couple was shocked when they awoke to a drunken man they had never met asleep on their couch, snuggling with a teddy bear.
At this point, it's a toss up between which is more embarrassing... a grown man sleeping with a teddy bear or doing it while passed out on someone else's couch?
According to police, Sigla apparently thought he was at his girlfriend's home, but had in fact walked through the front door of the couple's home and then gone to sleep.
Sigla, 34, was charged with trespassing and driving under the influence (after an attempted getaway).
Reports showed that the homeowners called authorities after asking Silga who he was and then pushing him out of the front door and down the steps.
The couple told authorities that the stranger snoozing on their couch was "very intoxicated" and appeared "spaced out."
The problem? He was in the house of a couple he did not know, and who did not know him.
The Mississippi Press reports that a couple was shocked when they awoke to a drunken man they had never met asleep on their couch, snuggling with a teddy bear.
At this point, it's a toss up between which is more embarrassing... a grown man sleeping with a teddy bear or doing it while passed out on someone else's couch?
According to police, Sigla apparently thought he was at his girlfriend's home, but had in fact walked through the front door of the couple's home and then gone to sleep.
Sigla, 34, was charged with trespassing and driving under the influence (after an attempted getaway).
Reports showed that the homeowners called authorities after asking Silga who he was and then pushing him out of the front door and down the steps.
The couple told authorities that the stranger snoozing on their couch was "very intoxicated" and appeared "spaced out."
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
214eva
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:37AM
Actually, he was shot in the nuts hitting his femoral artery in the process. Terrible way to go.
WingNut Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A Question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> non
> > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
>
> Because neither of us were there.
>
> Kid may have thought the homeowner was an intruder
> in HIS house and bucked?
>
> Shooter may not be a good shot and may have
> tried?
>
> Shooter may have been waiting all his life for a
> legal excuse to pop someone?
>
>
> Leg shots can be fatal. Ask Sean Taylor.
WingNut Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A Question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> non
> > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
>
> Because neither of us were there.
>
> Kid may have thought the homeowner was an intruder
> in HIS house and bucked?
>
> Shooter may not be a good shot and may have
> tried?
>
> Shooter may have been waiting all his life for a
> legal excuse to pop someone?
>
>
> Leg shots can be fatal. Ask Sean Taylor.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:37AM
a better outcome Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Christopher Paul Silga was drunk and asleep on a
> couch cuddling a teddy bear.
>
> The problem? He was in the house of a couple he
> did not know, and who did not know him.
>
> The Mississippi Press reports that a couple was
> shocked when they awoke to a drunken man they had
> never met asleep on their couch, snuggling with a
> teddy bear.
> At this point, it's a toss up between which is
> more embarrassing... a grown man sleeping with a
> teddy bear or doing it while passed out on someone
> else's couch?
>
> According to police, Sigla apparently thought he
> was at his girlfriend's home, but had in fact
> walked through the front door of the couple's home
> and then gone to sleep.
>
> Sigla, 34, was charged with trespassing and
> driving under the influence (after an attempted
> getaway).
>
> Reports showed that the homeowners called
> authorities after asking Silga who he was and then
> pushing him out of the front door and down the
> steps.
>
> The couple told authorities that the stranger
> snoozing on their couch was "very intoxicated" and
> appeared "spaced out."
Aww thats so cute....
Apples to bowling ball comparison though.
This intruder was asleep and probably did not come thru a rear window.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Christopher Paul Silga was drunk and asleep on a
> couch cuddling a teddy bear.
>
> The problem? He was in the house of a couple he
> did not know, and who did not know him.
>
> The Mississippi Press reports that a couple was
> shocked when they awoke to a drunken man they had
> never met asleep on their couch, snuggling with a
> teddy bear.
> At this point, it's a toss up between which is
> more embarrassing... a grown man sleeping with a
> teddy bear or doing it while passed out on someone
> else's couch?
>
> According to police, Sigla apparently thought he
> was at his girlfriend's home, but had in fact
> walked through the front door of the couple's home
> and then gone to sleep.
>
> Sigla, 34, was charged with trespassing and
> driving under the influence (after an attempted
> getaway).
>
> Reports showed that the homeowners called
> authorities after asking Silga who he was and then
> pushing him out of the front door and down the
> steps.
>
> The couple told authorities that the stranger
> snoozing on their couch was "very intoxicated" and
> appeared "spaced out."
Aww thats so cute....
Apples to bowling ball comparison though.
This intruder was asleep and probably did not come thru a rear window.
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
nobody died
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:38AM
.......Police: Drunk man fell asleep in wrong NY house
Associated Press – Mon, Jun 11, 2012....
NEWSTEAD, N.Y. (AP) — Authorities in western New York say a 20-year-old man thought he was sleeping on his friend's couch when state troopers woke him up over the weekend.
It turns out he was off by about 20 miles.
State police say a homeowner in rural Erie County town of Newstead woke up around 4:30 a.m. Saturday and found a stranger sleeping on his couch. He was unable to wake up the stranger, so his wife called 911. When troopers arrived, they found the very intoxicated man still sleeping on the couch.
Troopers say the man told him he thought he was at a friend's house on Grand Island, 20 miles west of Newstead.
The man was charged with criminal trespass and issued an appearance ticket for Newstead Town Court.
Associated Press – Mon, Jun 11, 2012....
NEWSTEAD, N.Y. (AP) — Authorities in western New York say a 20-year-old man thought he was sleeping on his friend's couch when state troopers woke him up over the weekend.
It turns out he was off by about 20 miles.
State police say a homeowner in rural Erie County town of Newstead woke up around 4:30 a.m. Saturday and found a stranger sleeping on his couch. He was unable to wake up the stranger, so his wife called 911. When troopers arrived, they found the very intoxicated man still sleeping on the couch.
Troopers say the man told him he thought he was at a friend's house on Grand Island, 20 miles west of Newstead.
The man was charged with criminal trespass and issued an appearance ticket for Newstead Town Court.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
The banana peel theory
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:38AM
You can die silly or with diginty but it will happen.
The teen made a mistake but wrong time and wrong place.
How many mistakes have you made that your life flashed before you?
I lost count years ago.
Everything dies and today might be yours.
The teen made a mistake but wrong time and wrong place.
How many mistakes have you made that your life flashed before you?
I lost count years ago.
Everything dies and today might be yours.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:38AM
A Question Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some non
> lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first thing you learn in weapons training is aim for a large target i.e. center of body. Im just suprised he only shot him once. Should have emptied the magazine on him.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some non
> lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first thing you learn in weapons training is aim for a large target i.e. center of body. Im just suprised he only shot him once. Should have emptied the magazine on him.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:46AM
nobody died Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> .......Police: Drunk man fell asleep in wrong NY
> house
> Associated Press – Mon, Jun 11, 2012....
>
> NEWSTEAD, N.Y. (AP) — Authorities in western New
> York say a 20-year-old man thought he was sleeping
> on his friend's couch when state troopers woke him
> up over the weekend.
>
> It turns out he was off by about 20 miles.
>
> State police say a homeowner in rural Erie County
> town of Newstead woke up around 4:30 a.m. Saturday
> and found a stranger sleeping on his couch. He was
> unable to wake up the stranger, so his wife called
> 911. When troopers arrived, they found the very
> intoxicated man still sleeping on the couch.
>
> Troopers say the man told him he thought he was at
> a friend's house on Grand Island, 20 miles west of
> Newstead.
>
> The man was charged with criminal trespass and
> issued an appearance ticket for Newstead Town
> Court.
The kid in Sterling should have went to sleep on the couch instead of refusing to stop when confronted as the homeowner claims.
-------------------------------------------------------
> .......Police: Drunk man fell asleep in wrong NY
> house
> Associated Press – Mon, Jun 11, 2012....
>
> NEWSTEAD, N.Y. (AP) — Authorities in western New
> York say a 20-year-old man thought he was sleeping
> on his friend's couch when state troopers woke him
> up over the weekend.
>
> It turns out he was off by about 20 miles.
>
> State police say a homeowner in rural Erie County
> town of Newstead woke up around 4:30 a.m. Saturday
> and found a stranger sleeping on his couch. He was
> unable to wake up the stranger, so his wife called
> 911. When troopers arrived, they found the very
> intoxicated man still sleeping on the couch.
>
> Troopers say the man told him he thought he was at
> a friend's house on Grand Island, 20 miles west of
> Newstead.
>
> The man was charged with criminal trespass and
> issued an appearance ticket for Newstead Town
> Court.
The kid in Sterling should have went to sleep on the couch instead of refusing to stop when confronted as the homeowner claims.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Internet Rambo
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:46AM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A Question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> non
> > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
>
> Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first
> thing you learn in weapons training is aim for a
> large target i.e. center of body. Im just suprised
> he only shot him once. Should have emptied the
> magazine on him.
You are full of shit. You wound before terminating. Not a combat zone.
-------------------------------------------------------
> A Question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> non
> > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
>
> Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first
> thing you learn in weapons training is aim for a
> large target i.e. center of body. Im just suprised
> he only shot him once. Should have emptied the
> magazine on him.
You are full of shit. You wound before terminating. Not a combat zone.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
a reader
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:47AM
"How dumb are you people?
Our shooter friend has told his side of the story. Too bad the dead kid can't tell us what really happened.
Think about it. His friend lifted him into what they thought was his house. Multiple witnesses will verify that. So stop with the burglary crap.
The kid is drunk and disoriented and then someone shouts out to him.
He probably wet his pants he was so scared. He was not a threat--no way. Probably realized he was in the wrong place and tried to get out.
That's when RAMBO (aka pscycho ex boyfriend/husband) pumped bullet (s) into him--probably as he was trying to escape.
Self defense? Yea, right."
1.Have you seen the pictures in the Post of the BACK of the houses? He went in the back window. The back of the houses are nothing alike-one has a screen porch and one does not. Also, the driveways on the front are on different sides of the house.
2.How do you know that the friends are telling the truth?
3.Maybe there were other people in the house at the time. If I had kids asleep in a bedroom, I would not lock myself in my bedroom if there were an intruder.
There are a lot of unanswered questions. I would not want to be the shooter--nor would I want to be the family that hosted the party where they were drinking.
3.
Our shooter friend has told his side of the story. Too bad the dead kid can't tell us what really happened.
Think about it. His friend lifted him into what they thought was his house. Multiple witnesses will verify that. So stop with the burglary crap.
The kid is drunk and disoriented and then someone shouts out to him.
He probably wet his pants he was so scared. He was not a threat--no way. Probably realized he was in the wrong place and tried to get out.
That's when RAMBO (aka pscycho ex boyfriend/husband) pumped bullet (s) into him--probably as he was trying to escape.
Self defense? Yea, right."
1.Have you seen the pictures in the Post of the BACK of the houses? He went in the back window. The back of the houses are nothing alike-one has a screen porch and one does not. Also, the driveways on the front are on different sides of the house.
2.How do you know that the friends are telling the truth?
3.Maybe there were other people in the house at the time. If I had kids asleep in a bedroom, I would not lock myself in my bedroom if there were an intruder.
There are a lot of unanswered questions. I would not want to be the shooter--nor would I want to be the family that hosted the party where they were drinking.
3.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Interesting Read
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:47AM
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:49AM
Internet Rambo Wrote:
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> >
> You are full of shit. You wound before
> terminating. Not a combat zone.
Well, I hope you have a nice cemetary plot picked out. That's a sure fire (pun intended) way to get yourself killed by an intruder.
You do it your way, I'll do it mine.
-------------------------------------------------------
> >
> You are full of shit. You wound before
> terminating. Not a combat zone.
Well, I hope you have a nice cemetary plot picked out. That's a sure fire (pun intended) way to get yourself killed by an intruder.
You do it your way, I'll do it mine.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
really, beach whale
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:50AM
beach man Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> the homeowner did nothing wrong. He told the teen
> he was armed and asked him to leave numerous
> times. He only shot the teen when the teen was at
> the bedroom door where his wife and son were
> hiding
How the hell do you know his wife and son were hiding anywhere?
So he shoots him while he is standing in front of their bedroom door??
How did he get all the way up the stairs?
I though he was at the bottom of the stairs?
You are an idiot and a liar.
-------------------------------------------------------
> the homeowner did nothing wrong. He told the teen
> he was armed and asked him to leave numerous
> times. He only shot the teen when the teen was at
> the bedroom door where his wife and son were
> hiding
How the hell do you know his wife and son were hiding anywhere?
So he shoots him while he is standing in front of their bedroom door??
How did he get all the way up the stairs?
I though he was at the bottom of the stairs?
You are an idiot and a liar.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Copier , thanks "reader"
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:52AM
Psycho Profile
« Previous Psycho Next Psycho »
Donald West Wilder II
First Name : Donald West
Last Name : Wilder II
Gender : Male
Age : 46
City : last known area: Sterling
Country : US
Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
Alias 2 : West Wilder
Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I had to guess an age for him and if I guessed it wrong I hope she sees this to tell us his true age, in case I guessed wrong. He might be years older or younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if this profile is still on DDHG but it was at one point. :
“is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to pull people from burning buildings. During the course of our relationship, I was forced to engage in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my mouth. He would often wear women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety of my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then.) I fear for the welfare of any child he may be around”
OTHER PROFILE:
“My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II owner of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting Incorporated) is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once he found out I was pregnant, he began to assault me. After the third assault, I called the Sheriff’s office and filed a report with them. I didn’t press charges as I didn’t think it was in the best interests of my unborn child. The day after he found out about me calling the police, he pressed charges against me and had a restraining order issued against me. In court, he had pictures of cat scratches and said that I left them. He denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of things and now I have a criminal trial pending. Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me. I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s a volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to pull people from burning buildings. Also, he owns approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also, after the incident, he got coverage at the fire station the next night to take care of my because when he assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear for my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I was supposed to do to take care of the person I was in fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me for many months (we dated for about a year). He destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It will take me a long time to get back to where I was before we were together. During the course of our relationship he cheated on me at least once and didn’t say anything until explicitly questioned with the dates and everything. He went out with another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation at the time). I still do not know all the details of what happened. All he admitted to was going out with her and going back to her place and kissing. Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING - EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our relationship, I was forced to engage in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied up and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is but one example of the things I had to do. I had to call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would often wear women’s clothes to bed. Additionally, in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay for any of my pre-natal expenses even though he makes more than $100,000 more per year than I do. I’ve been forced to cover everything myself. His lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal care and saying “regardless as to the paternity of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may sue for custody. I fear for the safety of my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear for the welfare of any child he may be around. Please, have more respect for yourself than I did. Do NOT date West Wilder”
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Donald West Wilder II
First Name : Donald West
Last Name : Wilder II
Gender : Male
Age : 46
City : last known area: Sterling
Country : US
Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
Alias 2 : West Wilder
Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I had to guess an age for him and if I guessed it wrong I hope she sees this to tell us his true age, in case I guessed wrong. He might be years older or younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if this profile is still on DDHG but it was at one point. :
“is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to pull people from burning buildings. During the course of our relationship, I was forced to engage in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my mouth. He would often wear women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety of my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then.) I fear for the welfare of any child he may be around”
OTHER PROFILE:
“My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II owner of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting Incorporated) is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once he found out I was pregnant, he began to assault me. After the third assault, I called the Sheriff’s office and filed a report with them. I didn’t press charges as I didn’t think it was in the best interests of my unborn child. The day after he found out about me calling the police, he pressed charges against me and had a restraining order issued against me. In court, he had pictures of cat scratches and said that I left them. He denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of things and now I have a criminal trial pending. Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me. I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s a volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to pull people from burning buildings. Also, he owns approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also, after the incident, he got coverage at the fire station the next night to take care of my because when he assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear for my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I was supposed to do to take care of the person I was in fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me for many months (we dated for about a year). He destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It will take me a long time to get back to where I was before we were together. During the course of our relationship he cheated on me at least once and didn’t say anything until explicitly questioned with the dates and everything. He went out with another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation at the time). I still do not know all the details of what happened. All he admitted to was going out with her and going back to her place and kissing. Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING - EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our relationship, I was forced to engage in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied up and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is but one example of the things I had to do. I had to call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would often wear women’s clothes to bed. Additionally, in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay for any of my pre-natal expenses even though he makes more than $100,000 more per year than I do. I’ve been forced to cover everything myself. His lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal care and saying “regardless as to the paternity of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may sue for custody. I fear for the safety of my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear for the welfare of any child he may be around. Please, have more respect for yourself than I did. Do NOT date West Wilder”
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Radian
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:55AM
He may be indicted for manslaughter. Count on it.
This is Virginia. There's not going to be any indictment.
This is Virginia. There's not going to be any indictment.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:58AM
Copier , thanks "reader" Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Psycho Profile
> « Previous Psycho Next Psycho »
> Donald West Wilder II
> First Name : Donald West
> Last Name : Wilder II
> Gender : Male
> Age : 46
> City : last known area: Sterling
> Country : US
> Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
> Alias 2 : West Wilder
>
>
> Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on
> dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I had
> to guess an age for him and if I guessed it wrong
> I hope she sees this to tell us his true age, in
> case I guessed wrong. He might be years older or
> younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if this
> profile is still on DDHG but it was at one point.
> :
>
> “is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a
> volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer
> Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to
> pull people from burning buildings. During the
> course of our relationship, I was forced to engage
> in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One
> night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me,
> attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate
> his anus with my mouth. He would often wear
> women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety of
> my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child
> to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also
> watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was
> 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then.)
> I fear for the welfare of any child he may be
> around”
>
> OTHER PROFILE:
>
> “My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II owner
> of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting Incorporated)
> is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the
> end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once he
> found out I was pregnant, he began to assault me.
> After the third assault, I called the Sheriff’s
> office and filed a report with them. I didn’t
> press charges as I didn’t think it was in the
> best interests of my unborn child. The day after
> he found out about me calling the police, he
> pressed charges against me and had a restraining
> order issued against me. In court, he had pictures
> of cat scratches and said that I left them. He
> denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of
> things and now I have a criminal trial pending.
> Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me.
> I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s a
> volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer
> Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to
> pull people from burning buildings. Also, he owns
> approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also, after
> the incident, he got coverage at the fire station
> the next night to take care of my because when he
> assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear for
> my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I was
> supposed to do to take care of the person I was in
> fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his
> ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me for
> many months (we dated for about a year). He
> destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It will
> take me a long time to get back to where I was
> before we were together. During the course of our
> relationship he cheated on me at least once and
> didn’t say anything until explicitly questioned
> with the dates and everything. He went out with
> another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation at
> the time). I still do not know all the details of
> what happened. All he admitted to was going out
> with her and going back to her place and kissing.
> Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING -
> EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a closeted
> kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our
> relationship, I was forced to engage in the most
> disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied me
> up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo to
> the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my
> mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied up
> and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is but
> one example of the things I had to do. I had to
> call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would
> often wear women’s clothes to bed. Additionally,
> in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay for
> any of my pre-natal expenses even though he makes
> more than $100,000 more per year than I do. I’ve
> been forced to cover everything myself. His
> lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal
> care and saying “regardless as to the paternity
> of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may sue
> for custody. I fear for the safety of my child. He
> knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM
> activities with his ex-wife. He also watched his
> ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years old
> (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear for
> the welfare of any child he may be around. Please,
> have more respect for yourself than I did. Do NOT
> date West Wilder”
>
>
On the internet so it must be true right? Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com. Please use your head
-------------------------------------------------------
> Psycho Profile
> « Previous Psycho Next Psycho »
> Donald West Wilder II
> First Name : Donald West
> Last Name : Wilder II
> Gender : Male
> Age : 46
> City : last known area: Sterling
> Country : US
> Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
> Alias 2 : West Wilder
>
>
> Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on
> dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I had
> to guess an age for him and if I guessed it wrong
> I hope she sees this to tell us his true age, in
> case I guessed wrong. He might be years older or
> younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if this
> profile is still on DDHG but it was at one point.
> :
>
> “is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a
> volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer
> Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to
> pull people from burning buildings. During the
> course of our relationship, I was forced to engage
> in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One
> night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me,
> attached a dildo to the gag and made me penetrate
> his anus with my mouth. He would often wear
> women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety of
> my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a child
> to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also
> watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she was
> 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since then.)
> I fear for the welfare of any child he may be
> around”
>
> OTHER PROFILE:
>
> “My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II owner
> of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting Incorporated)
> is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the
> end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once he
> found out I was pregnant, he began to assault me.
> After the third assault, I called the Sheriff’s
> office and filed a report with them. I didn’t
> press charges as I didn’t think it was in the
> best interests of my unborn child. The day after
> he found out about me calling the police, he
> pressed charges against me and had a restraining
> order issued against me. In court, he had pictures
> of cat scratches and said that I left them. He
> denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of
> things and now I have a criminal trial pending.
> Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me.
> I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s a
> volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling Volunteer
> Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough to
> pull people from burning buildings. Also, he owns
> approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also, after
> the incident, he got coverage at the fire station
> the next night to take care of my because when he
> assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear for
> my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I was
> supposed to do to take care of the person I was in
> fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his
> ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me for
> many months (we dated for about a year). He
> destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It will
> take me a long time to get back to where I was
> before we were together. During the course of our
> relationship he cheated on me at least once and
> didn’t say anything until explicitly questioned
> with the dates and everything. He went out with
> another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation at
> the time). I still do not know all the details of
> what happened. All he admitted to was going out
> with her and going back to her place and kissing.
> Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING -
> EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a closeted
> kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our
> relationship, I was forced to engage in the most
> disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied me
> up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo to
> the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my
> mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied up
> and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is but
> one example of the things I had to do. I had to
> call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would
> often wear women’s clothes to bed. Additionally,
> in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay for
> any of my pre-natal expenses even though he makes
> more than $100,000 more per year than I do. I’ve
> been forced to cover everything myself. His
> lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal
> care and saying “regardless as to the paternity
> of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may sue
> for custody. I fear for the safety of my child. He
> knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM
> activities with his ex-wife. He also watched his
> ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years old
> (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear for
> the welfare of any child he may be around. Please,
> have more respect for yourself than I did. Do NOT
> date West Wilder”
>
>
On the internet so it must be true right? Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com. Please use your head
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:58AM
@blowtorch,a reader +1
@internet - grow up. It's not fucking Television, OK?
If kid thought he was in his house, is drunk, I can see him fucking up and making a move that would make Harry Homeowner start a-blastin'.
I'm betting that dude is shook up all nine ways to Sunday right now having just mistakenly killed the kid next door and everything.............so does anybody know EXACTLY what was said between the kid and the dude? Cause that's gonna be the tell-tale to if Harry did anythign criminal or not.
but it's doubtful. seems like just a f**ked up sitch all around :(
@internet - grow up. It's not fucking Television, OK?
If kid thought he was in his house, is drunk, I can see him fucking up and making a move that would make Harry Homeowner start a-blastin'.
I'm betting that dude is shook up all nine ways to Sunday right now having just mistakenly killed the kid next door and everything.............so does anybody know EXACTLY what was said between the kid and the dude? Cause that's gonna be the tell-tale to if Harry did anythign criminal or not.
but it's doubtful. seems like just a f**ked up sitch all around :(
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
This isn't NCIS
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:03PM
Internet Rambo Wrote:
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> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A Question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> > non
> > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> >
> > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first
> > thing you learn in weapons training is aim for
> a
> > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> suprised
> > he only shot him once. Should have emptied the
> > magazine on him.
>
> You are full of shit. You wound before
> terminating. Not a combat zone.
Spoken like someone with absolutely zero firearms experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the chest). Every single police academy and firearms instructor in the country will tell you that. Not doing so might get YOU killed.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A Question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> > non
> > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> >
> > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first
> > thing you learn in weapons training is aim for
> a
> > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> suprised
> > he only shot him once. Should have emptied the
> > magazine on him.
>
> You are full of shit. You wound before
> terminating. Not a combat zone.
Spoken like someone with absolutely zero firearms experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the chest). Every single police academy and firearms instructor in the country will tell you that. Not doing so might get YOU killed.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
best advice
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:16PM
No guns in my house, too many kids around but a nutty frind who is a huge gunlover always gave the same advice.
If you have to shoot someone in your house, if you shoot them in the back then flip them over and fire a few into their chest.
I bet Rambo thought long and hard about "his story" befor the popo arrived.
He's no dummy.
He went by the textbook, didn't he?
Threatened, frightened, protecting his family, kid wouldn't respond, made a menacing move.
Did I leave anything out?
If you have to shoot someone in your house, if you shoot them in the back then flip them over and fire a few into their chest.
I bet Rambo thought long and hard about "his story" befor the popo arrived.
He's no dummy.
He went by the textbook, didn't he?
Threatened, frightened, protecting his family, kid wouldn't respond, made a menacing move.
Did I leave anything out?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Batter up
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:20PM
This isn't NCIS Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Internet Rambo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A Question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or
> some
> > > non
> > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> > >
> > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> first
> > > thing you learn in weapons training is aim
> for
> > a
> > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > suprised
> > > he only shot him once. Should have emptied
> the
> > > magazine on him.
> >
> > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > terminating. Not a combat zone.
>
> Spoken like someone with absolutely zero firearms
> experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of
> ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
>
> You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the chest).
> Every single police academy and firearms
> instructor in the country will tell you that. Not
> doing so might get YOU killed.
What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the Louisville slugger works best. Used one years ago to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their night and the next three years of their life. Will never forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A bat against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning. Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I just finished reparing and painting the room so didn't feel like shooting them.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Internet Rambo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A Question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or
> some
> > > non
> > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> > >
> > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> first
> > > thing you learn in weapons training is aim
> for
> > a
> > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > suprised
> > > he only shot him once. Should have emptied
> the
> > > magazine on him.
> >
> > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > terminating. Not a combat zone.
>
> Spoken like someone with absolutely zero firearms
> experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of
> ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
>
> You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the chest).
> Every single police academy and firearms
> instructor in the country will tell you that. Not
> doing so might get YOU killed.
What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the Louisville slugger works best. Used one years ago to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their night and the next three years of their life. Will never forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A bat against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning. Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I just finished reparing and painting the room so didn't feel like shooting them.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
crime scene reconstruction
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:25PM
Batter up Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This isn't NCIS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Internet Rambo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > A Question Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or
> > some
> > > > non
> > > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> > > >
> > > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> > first
> > > > thing you learn in weapons training is aim
> > for
> > > a
> > > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > > suprised
> > > > he only shot him once. Should have emptied
> > the
> > > > magazine on him.
> > >
> > > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > > terminating. Not a combat zone.
> >
> > Spoken like someone with absolutely zero
> firearms
> > experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of
> > ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
> >
> > You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the chest).
>
> > Every single police academy and firearms
> > instructor in the country will tell you that.
> Not
> > doing so might get YOU killed.
>
> What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> Louisville slugger works best. Used one years ago
> to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their night
> and the next three years of their life. Will never
> forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A bat
> against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I just
> finished reparing and painting the room so didn't
> feel like shooting them.
If you are being truthful, which you are obviously not, hitting someone hard enough with a bat to hear it hit bone would break skin and cause blood spatter which would be the same result as shooting him.
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> This isn't NCIS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Internet Rambo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > A Question Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or
> > some
> > > > non
> > > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> > > >
> > > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> > first
> > > > thing you learn in weapons training is aim
> > for
> > > a
> > > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > > suprised
> > > > he only shot him once. Should have emptied
> > the
> > > > magazine on him.
> > >
> > > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > > terminating. Not a combat zone.
> >
> > Spoken like someone with absolutely zero
> firearms
> > experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of
> > ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
> >
> > You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the chest).
>
> > Every single police academy and firearms
> > instructor in the country will tell you that.
> Not
> > doing so might get YOU killed.
>
> What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> Louisville slugger works best. Used one years ago
> to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their night
> and the next three years of their life. Will never
> forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A bat
> against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I just
> finished reparing and painting the room so didn't
> feel like shooting them.
If you are being truthful, which you are obviously not, hitting someone hard enough with a bat to hear it hit bone would break skin and cause blood spatter which would be the same result as shooting him.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
lol whut 007
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:27PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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>
> On the internet so it must be true right?
> Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com.
> Please use your head
I'm absolutely sure his ex would be truthful on the interwebz.
Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had a sober designated driver to get him home, right?
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>
> On the internet so it must be true right?
> Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com.
> Please use your head
I'm absolutely sure his ex would be truthful on the interwebz.
Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had a sober designated driver to get him home, right?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Not a victim, just a dumbass
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:33PM
lol whut 007 Wrote:
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>
> Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had a
> sober designated driver to get him home, right?
I sure hope that somewhere between all the vigils and grief counseling the school is driving home the point that the real reason the kid is dead is alcohol and poor decisions.
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>
> Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had a
> sober designated driver to get him home, right?
I sure hope that somewhere between all the vigils and grief counseling the school is driving home the point that the real reason the kid is dead is alcohol and poor decisions.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
responsible gun owners only
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:35PM
If your life is in danger, you have a right for self defense. If you hear an intruder in your home, or breaking in, yell out that you have a gun and to freeze. If they run out of the door, do not follow them. If however, they threaten you, or come closer, even when you have told them you have a gun, you have a right to defend yourself
So, you shouldn't chase after them if they are retreating.....huh?
So, you shouldn't chase after them if they are retreating.....huh?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Go Senators
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:38PM
crime scene reconstruction Wrote:
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> Batter up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This isn't NCIS Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Internet Rambo Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > A Question Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg
> or
> > > some
> > > > > non
> > > > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill
> him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> > > first
> > > > > thing you learn in weapons training is
> aim
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > > > suprised
> > > > > he only shot him once. Should have
> emptied
> > > the
> > > > > magazine on him.
> > > >
> > > > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > > > terminating. Not a combat zone.
> > >
> > > Spoken like someone with absolutely zero
> > firearms
> > > experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of
> > > ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
> > >
> > > You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the
> chest).
> >
> > > Every single police academy and firearms
> > > instructor in the country will tell you that.
>
> > Not
> > > doing so might get YOU killed.
> >
> > What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> > Louisville slugger works best. Used one years
> ago
> > to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their
> night
> > and the next three years of their life. Will
> never
> > forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A
> bat
> > against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> > Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I
> just
> > finished reparing and painting the room so
> didn't
> > feel like shooting them.
>
>
> If you are being truthful, which you are obviously
> not, hitting someone hard enough with a bat to
> hear it hit bone would break skin and cause blood
> spatter which would be the same result as shooting
> him.
No holes in the wall. Only pistol I have ever owned is a Remington M1911 and the rounds were .45acp hardballs. Sparse furniture after renovation but who cares.
There was some blood and few broken teeth.
I was tired of shooting people.
"Live in peace or in pieces "
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> Batter up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This isn't NCIS Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Internet Rambo Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > A Question Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg
> or
> > > some
> > > > > non
> > > > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill
> him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> > > first
> > > > > thing you learn in weapons training is
> aim
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > > > suprised
> > > > > he only shot him once. Should have
> emptied
> > > the
> > > > > magazine on him.
> > > >
> > > > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > > > terminating. Not a combat zone.
> > >
> > > Spoken like someone with absolutely zero
> > firearms
> > > experience. Shooting to wound is a bunch of
> > > ignorant hollywood-manufactured BS.
> > >
> > > You ALWAYS aim for "center of mass" (the
> chest).
> >
> > > Every single police academy and firearms
> > > instructor in the country will tell you that.
>
> > Not
> > > doing so might get YOU killed.
> >
> > What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> > Louisville slugger works best. Used one years
> ago
> > to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their
> night
> > and the next three years of their life. Will
> never
> > forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A
> bat
> > against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> > Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I
> just
> > finished reparing and painting the room so
> didn't
> > feel like shooting them.
>
>
> If you are being truthful, which you are obviously
> not, hitting someone hard enough with a bat to
> hear it hit bone would break skin and cause blood
> spatter which would be the same result as shooting
> him.
No holes in the wall. Only pistol I have ever owned is a Remington M1911 and the rounds were .45acp hardballs. Sparse furniture after renovation but who cares.
There was some blood and few broken teeth.
I was tired of shooting people.
"Live in peace or in pieces "
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
no details please-just fear
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:39PM
If the danger has passed, (the intruder may not be alone) put the gun away in a secure place, unloaded. The officers that respond to your call may want to retrieve the weapon for evidence. The worst thing you can do is approach the police holding a gun. When the police arrive, simply tell them you you fired your gun out of fear for your life. Do NOT provide any additional details, just say "I shot out of fear for my life." Once you get the story straight with your attorney, then and ONLY then do you want to give the police details.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
lol whut 007
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:49PM
Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
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> lol whut 007 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had
> a
> > sober designated driver to get him home, right?
>
> I sure hope that somewhere between all the vigils
> and grief counseling the school is driving home
> the point that the real reason the kid is dead is
> alcohol and poor decisions.
^^^This, +1
His friends need to think long and hard about their actions that night.
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> lol whut 007 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had
> a
> > sober designated driver to get him home, right?
>
> I sure hope that somewhere between all the vigils
> and grief counseling the school is driving home
> the point that the real reason the kid is dead is
> alcohol and poor decisions.
^^^This, +1
His friends need to think long and hard about their actions that night.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Same dumbazz again
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:49PM
Go Senators Wrote:
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>
>
> No holes in the wall. Only pistol I have ever
> owned is a Remington M1911 and the rounds were
> .45acp hardballs. Sparse furniture after
> renovation but who cares.
> There was some blood and few broken teeth.
> I was tired of shooting people.
> "Live in peace or in pieces "
STFU idiot.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No holes in the wall. Only pistol I have ever
> owned is a Remington M1911 and the rounds were
> .45acp hardballs. Sparse furniture after
> renovation but who cares.
> There was some blood and few broken teeth.
> I was tired of shooting people.
> "Live in peace or in pieces "
STFU idiot.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Libby Libtard
()
Date: March 19, 2013 12:57PM
Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
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> lol whut 007 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had
> a
> > sober designated driver to get him home, right?
>
> I sure hope that somewhere between all the vigils
> and grief counseling the school is driving home
> the point that the real reason the kid is dead is
> alcohol and poor decisions.
NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about substance abuse and personal responsibility at a time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK kid?
This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
Oh, and race. Damn white people are always shooting these poor kids.
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> lol whut 007 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they had
> a
> > sober designated driver to get him home, right?
>
> I sure hope that somewhere between all the vigils
> and grief counseling the school is driving home
> the point that the real reason the kid is dead is
> alcohol and poor decisions.
NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about substance abuse and personal responsibility at a time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK kid?
This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
Oh, and race. Damn white people are always shooting these poor kids.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Ralph Pootawn
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:02PM
Libby Libtard Wrote:
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> Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lol whut 007 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they
> had
> > a
> > > sober designated driver to get him home,
> right?
> >
> > I sure hope that somewhere between all the
> vigils
> > and grief counseling the school is driving home
> > the point that the real reason the kid is dead
> is
> > alcohol and poor decisions.
>
>
> NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about
> substance abuse and personal responsibility at a
> time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH CAPACITY
> ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK
> kid?
>
> This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
>
> Oh, and race. Damn white people are always
> shooting these poor kids.
Attachments:
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> Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lol whut 007 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they
> had
> > a
> > > sober designated driver to get him home,
> right?
> >
> > I sure hope that somewhere between all the
> vigils
> > and grief counseling the school is driving home
> > the point that the real reason the kid is dead
> is
> > alcohol and poor decisions.
>
>
> NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about
> substance abuse and personal responsibility at a
> time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH CAPACITY
> ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK
> kid?
>
> This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
>
> Oh, and race. Damn white people are always
> shooting these poor kids.
Attachments:
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
I do wonder
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:14PM
Would Rambo have shot this kid if he were white?
Fair question.
Fair question.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
I don't wonder
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:17PM
I do wonder Wrote:
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> Would Rambo have shot this kid if he were white?
>
> Fair question.
Yes.
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> Would Rambo have shot this kid if he were white?
>
> Fair question.
Yes.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:27PM
hold on..................wait a minute here.
you telling me Harry Homeowner has a Roscoe but dont lock his windows? o_0
anybody have knowledge on if this was a true "break-in" or what?
you telling me Harry Homeowner has a Roscoe but dont lock his windows? o_0
anybody have knowledge on if this was a true "break-in" or what?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
ex-Lester
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:30PM
There are a lot of people in this story with regrets.
1. Homeowner who shot the kid.
2. Friends who slid him thru the window of the wrong house.
3. Parents who grounded him but didn't go out and pick him up.
4. Friends who are getting drunk too young (probably some younger than CG at the party).
1. Homeowner who shot the kid.
2. Friends who slid him thru the window of the wrong house.
3. Parents who grounded him but didn't go out and pick him up.
4. Friends who are getting drunk too young (probably some younger than CG at the party).
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:31PM
you forgot 5. whoever own's that house that the party was at
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2013 01:32PM by Gordon Blvd.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2013 01:32PM by Gordon Blvd.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
gun carrying cross dresser?
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:39PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> Copier , thanks "reader" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Psycho Profile
> > « Previous Psycho Next Psycho »
> > Donald West Wilder II
> > First Name : Donald West
> > Last Name : Wilder II
> > Gender : Male
> > Age : 46
> > City : last known area: Sterling
> > Country : US
> > Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
> > Alias 2 : West Wilder
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on
> > dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I
> had
> > to guess an age for him and if I guessed it
> wrong
> > I hope she sees this to tell us his true age,
> in
> > case I guessed wrong. He might be years older
> or
> > younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if
> this
> > profile is still on DDHG but it was at one
> point.
> > :
> >
> > “is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. During the
> > course of our relationship, I was forced to
> engage
> > in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One
> > night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me,
> > attached a dildo to the gag and made me
> penetrate
> > his anus with my mouth. He would often wear
> > women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety
> of
> > my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a
> child
> > to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also
> > watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she
> was
> > 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since
> then.)
> > I fear for the welfare of any child he may be
> > around”
> >
> > OTHER PROFILE:
> >
> > “My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II
> owner
> > of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting
> Incorporated)
> > is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the
> > end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once
> he
> > found out I was pregnant, he began to assault
> me.
> > After the third assault, I called the
> Sheriff’s
> > office and filed a report with them. I didn’t
> > press charges as I didn’t think it was in the
> > best interests of my unborn child. The day
> after
> > he found out about me calling the police, he
> > pressed charges against me and had a
> restraining
> > order issued against me. In court, he had
> pictures
> > of cat scratches and said that I left them. He
> > denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of
> > things and now I have a criminal trial pending.
> > Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me.
> > I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s
> a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. Also, he
> owns
> > approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also,
> after
> > the incident, he got coverage at the fire
> station
> > the next night to take care of my because when
> he
> > assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear
> for
> > my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I
> was
> > supposed to do to take care of the person I was
> in
> > fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his
> > ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me
> for
> > many months (we dated for about a year). He
> > destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It
> will
> > take me a long time to get back to where I was
> > before we were together. During the course of
> our
> > relationship he cheated on me at least once and
> > didn’t say anything until explicitly
> questioned
> > with the dates and everything. He went out with
> > another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation
> at
> > the time). I still do not know all the details
> of
> > what happened. All he admitted to was going out
> > with her and going back to her place and
> kissing.
> > Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING
> -
> > EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a
> closeted
> > kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our
> > relationship, I was forced to engage in the
> most
> > disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied
> me
> > up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo
> to
> > the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my
> > mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied
> up
> > and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is
> but
> > one example of the things I had to do. I had to
> > call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would
> > often wear women’s clothes to bed.
> Additionally,
> > in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay
> for
> > any of my pre-natal expenses even though he
> makes
> > more than $100,000 more per year than I do.
> I’ve
> > been forced to cover everything myself. His
> > lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal
> > care and saying “regardless as to the
> paternity
> > of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may
> sue
> > for custody. I fear for the safety of my child.
> He
> > knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM
> > activities with his ex-wife. He also watched
> his
> > ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years
> old
> > (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear
> for
> > the welfare of any child he may be around.
> Please,
> > have more respect for yourself than I did. Do
> NOT
> > date West Wilder”
> >
> >
>
> On the internet so it must be true right?
> Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com.
> Please use your head
Maybe not true but why was the guys window unlocked and he was armed?
There is probably more to this story than a cross dressing weirdo. Where was the wife and kid? Any kid who was drunk would scare off when the alarm went off. Was the kid down the steps or up the steps?
This could get real interesting for the conspiracy theorists.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Copier , thanks "reader" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Psycho Profile
> > « Previous Psycho Next Psycho »
> > Donald West Wilder II
> > First Name : Donald West
> > Last Name : Wilder II
> > Gender : Male
> > Age : 46
> > City : last known area: Sterling
> > Country : US
> > Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
> > Alias 2 : West Wilder
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on
> > dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I
> had
> > to guess an age for him and if I guessed it
> wrong
> > I hope she sees this to tell us his true age,
> in
> > case I guessed wrong. He might be years older
> or
> > younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if
> this
> > profile is still on DDHG but it was at one
> point.
> > :
> >
> > “is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. During the
> > course of our relationship, I was forced to
> engage
> > in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One
> > night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me,
> > attached a dildo to the gag and made me
> penetrate
> > his anus with my mouth. He would often wear
> > women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety
> of
> > my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a
> child
> > to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also
> > watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she
> was
> > 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since
> then.)
> > I fear for the welfare of any child he may be
> > around”
> >
> > OTHER PROFILE:
> >
> > “My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II
> owner
> > of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting
> Incorporated)
> > is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the
> > end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once
> he
> > found out I was pregnant, he began to assault
> me.
> > After the third assault, I called the
> Sheriff’s
> > office and filed a report with them. I didn’t
> > press charges as I didn’t think it was in the
> > best interests of my unborn child. The day
> after
> > he found out about me calling the police, he
> > pressed charges against me and had a
> restraining
> > order issued against me. In court, he had
> pictures
> > of cat scratches and said that I left them. He
> > denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of
> > things and now I have a criminal trial pending.
> > Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me.
> > I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s
> a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. Also, he
> owns
> > approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also,
> after
> > the incident, he got coverage at the fire
> station
> > the next night to take care of my because when
> he
> > assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear
> for
> > my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I
> was
> > supposed to do to take care of the person I was
> in
> > fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his
> > ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me
> for
> > many months (we dated for about a year). He
> > destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It
> will
> > take me a long time to get back to where I was
> > before we were together. During the course of
> our
> > relationship he cheated on me at least once and
> > didn’t say anything until explicitly
> questioned
> > with the dates and everything. He went out with
> > another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation
> at
> > the time). I still do not know all the details
> of
> > what happened. All he admitted to was going out
> > with her and going back to her place and
> kissing.
> > Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING
> -
> > EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a
> closeted
> > kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our
> > relationship, I was forced to engage in the
> most
> > disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied
> me
> > up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo
> to
> > the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my
> > mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied
> up
> > and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is
> but
> > one example of the things I had to do. I had to
> > call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would
> > often wear women’s clothes to bed.
> Additionally,
> > in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay
> for
> > any of my pre-natal expenses even though he
> makes
> > more than $100,000 more per year than I do.
> I’ve
> > been forced to cover everything myself. His
> > lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal
> > care and saying “regardless as to the
> paternity
> > of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may
> sue
> > for custody. I fear for the safety of my child.
> He
> > knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM
> > activities with his ex-wife. He also watched
> his
> > ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years
> old
> > (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear
> for
> > the welfare of any child he may be around.
> Please,
> > have more respect for yourself than I did. Do
> NOT
> > date West Wilder”
> >
> >
>
> On the internet so it must be true right?
> Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com.
> Please use your head
Maybe not true but why was the guys window unlocked and he was armed?
There is probably more to this story than a cross dressing weirdo. Where was the wife and kid? Any kid who was drunk would scare off when the alarm went off. Was the kid down the steps or up the steps?
This could get real interesting for the conspiracy theorists.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Not enough info
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:44PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> hold on..................wait a minute here.
>
> you telling me Harry Homeowner has a Roscoe but
> dont lock his windows? o_0
>
> anybody have knowledge on if this was a true
> "break-in" or what?
The Wash Post article said that his friends helped "hoist" him through a back window. Implying that the window wasn't easily accessible from the ground.
Maybe the homeowner didn't think he needed to lock a window that wasn't on the ground floor? Need more info.
-------------------------------------------------------
> hold on..................wait a minute here.
>
> you telling me Harry Homeowner has a Roscoe but
> dont lock his windows? o_0
>
> anybody have knowledge on if this was a true
> "break-in" or what?
The Wash Post article said that his friends helped "hoist" him through a back window. Implying that the window wasn't easily accessible from the ground.
Maybe the homeowner didn't think he needed to lock a window that wasn't on the ground floor? Need more info.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 01:52PM
gun carrying cross dresser? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> > This could get real interesting for the conspiracy
> theorists.
It certainly will because the liberal anti gun juggernaut and media will try to place blame with everyone and everything and ANYTHING they can other than the stupid dead kid.
-------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> > This could get real interesting for the conspiracy
> theorists.
It certainly will because the liberal anti gun juggernaut and media will try to place blame with everyone and everything and ANYTHING they can other than the stupid dead kid.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Frenchy
()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:08PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Copier , thanks "reader" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Psycho Profile
> > « Previous Psycho Next Psycho »
> > Donald West Wilder II
> > First Name : Donald West
> > Last Name : Wilder II
> > Gender : Male
> > Age : 46
> > City : last known area: Sterling
> > Country : US
> > Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
> > Alias 2 : West Wilder
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on
> > dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I
> had
> > to guess an age for him and if I guessed it
> wrong
> > I hope she sees this to tell us his true age,
> in
> > case I guessed wrong. He might be years older
> or
> > younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if
> this
> > profile is still on DDHG but it was at one
> point.
> > :
> >
> > “is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. During the
> > course of our relationship, I was forced to
> engage
> > in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One
> > night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me,
> > attached a dildo to the gag and made me
> penetrate
> > his anus with my mouth. He would often wear
> > women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety
> of
> > my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a
> child
> > to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also
> > watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she
> was
> > 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since
> then.)
> > I fear for the welfare of any child he may be
> > around”
> >
> > OTHER PROFILE:
> >
> > “My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II
> owner
> > of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting
> Incorporated)
> > is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the
> > end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once
> he
> > found out I was pregnant, he began to assault
> me.
> > After the third assault, I called the
> Sheriff’s
> > office and filed a report with them. I didn’t
> > press charges as I didn’t think it was in the
> > best interests of my unborn child. The day
> after
> > he found out about me calling the police, he
> > pressed charges against me and had a
> restraining
> > order issued against me. In court, he had
> pictures
> > of cat scratches and said that I left them. He
> > denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of
> > things and now I have a criminal trial pending.
> > Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me.
> > I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s
> a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. Also, he
> owns
> > approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also,
> after
> > the incident, he got coverage at the fire
> station
> > the next night to take care of my because when
> he
> > assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear
> for
> > my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I
> was
> > supposed to do to take care of the person I was
> in
> > fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his
> > ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me
> for
> > many months (we dated for about a year). He
> > destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It
> will
> > take me a long time to get back to where I was
> > before we were together. During the course of
> our
> > relationship he cheated on me at least once and
> > didn’t say anything until explicitly
> questioned
> > with the dates and everything. He went out with
> > another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation
> at
> > the time). I still do not know all the details
> of
> > what happened. All he admitted to was going out
> > with her and going back to her place and
> kissing.
> > Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING
> -
> > EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a
> closeted
> > kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our
> > relationship, I was forced to engage in the
> most
> > disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied
> me
> > up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo
> to
> > the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my
> > mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied
> up
> > and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is
> but
> > one example of the things I had to do. I had to
> > call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would
> > often wear women’s clothes to bed.
> Additionally,
> > in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay
> for
> > any of my pre-natal expenses even though he
> makes
> > more than $100,000 more per year than I do.
> I’ve
> > been forced to cover everything myself. His
> > lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal
> > care and saying “regardless as to the
> paternity
> > of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may
> sue
> > for custody. I fear for the safety of my child.
> He
> > knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM
> > activities with his ex-wife. He also watched
> his
> > ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years
> old
> > (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear
> for
> > the welfare of any child he may be around.
> Please,
> > have more respect for yourself than I did. Do
> NOT
> > date West Wilder”
> >
> >
>
> On the internet so it must be true right?
> Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com.
> Please use your head
I'm dating a French model.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Copier , thanks "reader" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Psycho Profile
> > « Previous Psycho Next Psycho »
> > Donald West Wilder II
> > First Name : Donald West
> > Last Name : Wilder II
> > Gender : Male
> > Age : 46
> > City : last known area: Sterling
> > Country : US
> > Alias 1 : Wes Wilder
> > Alias 2 : West Wilder
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, the woman who profiled him on
> > dontdatehimgirl.com did not list his age, so I
> had
> > to guess an age for him and if I guessed it
> wrong
> > I hope she sees this to tell us his true age,
> in
> > case I guessed wrong. He might be years older
> or
> > younger than what I guessed. I am not sure if
> this
> > profile is still on DDHG but it was at one
> point.
> > :
> >
> > “is a closeted kinky cross-dresser. He’s a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. During the
> > course of our relationship, I was forced to
> engage
> > in the most disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One
> > night, tied me up, blindfolded me, gagged me,
> > attached a dildo to the gag and made me
> penetrate
> > his anus with my mouth. He would often wear
> > women’s clothes to bed. I fear for the safety
> of
> > my child. He knowingly potentially exposed a
> child
> > to BDSM activities with his ex-wife. He also
> > watched his ex-step-daughter shower until she
> was
> > 9 years old (and he hasn’t seen her since
> then.)
> > I fear for the welfare of any child he may be
> > around”
> >
> > OTHER PROFILE:
> >
> > “My ex, West Wilder (Donald West Wilder II
> owner
> > of WWC Inc. - West Wilder Consulting
> Incorporated)
> > is the worst person I have ever dated. Near the
> > end of our relationship, I got pregnant. Once
> he
> > found out I was pregnant, he began to assault
> me.
> > After the third assault, I called the
> Sheriff’s
> > office and filed a report with them. I didn’t
> > press charges as I didn’t think it was in the
> > best interests of my unborn child. The day
> after
> > he found out about me calling the police, he
> > pressed charges against me and had a
> restraining
> > order issued against me. In court, he had
> pictures
> > of cat scratches and said that I left them. He
> > denied hitting me first. He made up a lot of
> > things and now I have a criminal trial pending.
> > Now, he claims to fear for his safety with me.
> > I’m a 5ft4, overweight pregnant girl. He’s
> a
> > volunteer fire fighter with the Sterling
> Volunteer
> > Fire Department, so he has to be strong enough
> to
> > pull people from burning buildings. Also, he
> owns
> > approximately 10 guns. I own no guns. Also,
> after
> > the incident, he got coverage at the fire
> station
> > the next night to take care of my because when
> he
> > assaulted me he hurt my back. If I was in fear
> for
> > my safety, I wouldn’t take off from what I
> was
> > supposed to do to take care of the person I was
> in
> > fear of. He was also emotionally abusive of his
> > ex-wife and he was emotionally abusive of me
> for
> > many months (we dated for about a year). He
> > destroyed both her self-esteem and mine. It
> will
> > take me a long time to get back to where I was
> > before we were together. During the course of
> our
> > relationship he cheated on me at least once and
> > didn’t say anything until explicitly
> questioned
> > with the dates and everything. He went out with
> > another woman on my birthday (I was on vacation
> at
> > the time). I still do not know all the details
> of
> > what happened. All he admitted to was going out
> > with her and going back to her place and
> kissing.
> > Of course, I suspect that more happened. WARNING
> -
> > EXPLICIT CONTENT FOLLOWS. Mr. Wilder is a
> closeted
> > kinky cross-dresser. During the course of our
> > relationship, I was forced to engage in the
> most
> > disgusting (IMO) sexual acts. One night, tied
> me
> > up, blindfolded me, gagged me, attached a dildo
> to
> > the gag and made me penetrate his anus with my
> > mouth. I couldn’t easily object as I was tied
> up
> > and gagged so I was forced to do it. This is
> but
> > one example of the things I had to do. I had to
> > call him ‘Ma’am’ during sex and he would
> > often wear women’s clothes to bed.
> Additionally,
> > in regards to my pregnancy, he refused to pay
> for
> > any of my pre-natal expenses even though he
> makes
> > more than $100,000 more per year than I do.
> I’ve
> > been forced to cover everything myself. His
> > lawyer, while refusing to pay for any pre-natal
> > care and saying “regardless as to the
> paternity
> > of the child” also says that Mr. Wilder may
> sue
> > for custody. I fear for the safety of my child.
> He
> > knowingly potentially exposed a child to BDSM
> > activities with his ex-wife. He also watched
> his
> > ex-step-daughter shower until she was 9 years
> old
> > (and he hasn’t seen her since then). I fear
> for
> > the welfare of any child he may be around.
> Please,
> > have more respect for yourself than I did. Do
> NOT
> > date West Wilder”
> >
> >
>
> On the internet so it must be true right?
> Especially from a source called datingpsychos.com.
> Please use your head
I'm dating a French model.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:21PM
Being a crossdressing weirdo isn't against the law, in fact they are being protected from discrimination.
Cross dressing weirdos should have the right to protect themselves.
Right now the only thng that could change my mind is if the daughter knew Caleb and invited him in for some reason.
Cross dressing weirdos should have the right to protect themselves.
Right now the only thng that could change my mind is if the daughter knew Caleb and invited him in for some reason.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
ScratchingMyHead
()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:23PM
Libby Libtard Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lol whut 007 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they
> had
> > a
> > > sober designated driver to get him home,
> right?
> >
> > I sure hope that somewhere between all the
> vigils
> > and grief counseling the school is driving home
> > the point that the real reason the kid is dead
> is
> > alcohol and poor decisions.
>
>
> NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about
> substance abuse and personal responsibility at a
> time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH CAPACITY
> ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK
> kid?
>
> This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
>
> Oh, and race. Damn white people are always
> shooting these poor kids.
WTF is a "HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT CLIP"? I haven't seen any reports that disclose the type of firearm other than it was a handgun.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lol whut 007 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they
> had
> > a
> > > sober designated driver to get him home,
> right?
> >
> > I sure hope that somewhere between all the
> vigils
> > and grief counseling the school is driving home
> > the point that the real reason the kid is dead
> is
> > alcohol and poor decisions.
>
>
> NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about
> substance abuse and personal responsibility at a
> time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH CAPACITY
> ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK
> kid?
>
> This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
>
> Oh, and race. Damn white people are always
> shooting these poor kids.
WTF is a "HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT CLIP"? I haven't seen any reports that disclose the type of firearm other than it was a handgun.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Libocrites
()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:45PM
WingNut Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Being a crossdressing weirdo isn't against the
> law, in fact they are being protected from
> discrimination.
>
> Cross dressing weirdos should have the right to
> protect themselves.
>
I thought the libtards liked cross-dressing weirdos?
If it came out that he-she was transgendered then they'd be falling all over themselves trying to defend the guy... err girl... whatever.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Being a crossdressing weirdo isn't against the
> law, in fact they are being protected from
> discrimination.
>
> Cross dressing weirdos should have the right to
> protect themselves.
>
I thought the libtards liked cross-dressing weirdos?
If it came out that he-she was transgendered then they'd be falling all over themselves trying to defend the guy... err girl... whatever.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
*sigh*
()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:46PM
ScratchingMyHead Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Libby Libtard Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > lol whut 007 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they
> > had
> > > a
> > > > sober designated driver to get him home,
> > right?
> > >
> > > I sure hope that somewhere between all the
> > vigils
> > > and grief counseling the school is driving
> home
> > > the point that the real reason the kid is
> dead
> > is
> > > alcohol and poor decisions.
> >
> >
> > NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about
> > substance abuse and personal responsibility at
> a
> > time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH
> CAPACITY
> > ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK
> > kid?
> >
> > This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
> >
> > Oh, and race. Damn white people are always
> > shooting these poor kids.
>
> WTF is a "HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT CLIP"? I haven't
> seen any reports that disclose the type of firearm
> other than it was a handgun.
*sigh*
-------------------------------------------------------
> Libby Libtard Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not a victim, just a dumbass Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > lol whut 007 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > > Gotta blame Caleb's friends for this, they
> > had
> > > a
> > > > sober designated driver to get him home,
> > right?
> > >
> > > I sure hope that somewhere between all the
> > vigils
> > > and grief counseling the school is driving
> home
> > > the point that the real reason the kid is
> dead
> > is
> > > alcohol and poor decisions.
> >
> >
> > NO! WTF? You want someone to talk about
> > substance abuse and personal responsibility at
> a
> > time when some WHITE GUN NUT used a HIGH
> CAPACITY
> > ASSAULT CLIP to MURDER some poor innocent BLACK
> > kid?
> >
> > This is about EVIL GUNS! PERIOD!
> >
> > Oh, and race. Damn white people are always
> > shooting these poor kids.
>
> WTF is a "HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT CLIP"? I haven't
> seen any reports that disclose the type of firearm
> other than it was a handgun.
*sigh*
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
VA sucks
()
Date: March 19, 2013 02:57PM
I think VA keeps police reports away from public disclosure---which sucks and ia anti-American btw!
How about the 911 call?
When will they release that or will they?
How about the 911 call?
When will they release that or will they?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
question for gun nuts
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:10PM
Didn't I read that the shooter fired a warning shot?
If so, where would one shoot a warning shot in a house?
If so, where would one shoot a warning shot in a house?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Outstanding citizen of Fairfax
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:10PM
Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old drunk black kid?
Future president of the NRA.
Future president of the NRA.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Ralph Pootawn
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:12PM
Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit
> pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old
> drunk black kid?
> Future president of the NRA.
uh huh. What would you have done, laughed at him and tried to escort him out the front door calling him silly?
so dumb
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit
> pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old
> drunk black kid?
> Future president of the NRA.
uh huh. What would you have done, laughed at him and tried to escort him out the front door calling him silly?
so dumb
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
repeal it now
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:12PM
Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit
> pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old
> drunk black kid?
> Future president of the NRA.
+1. It is time to repeal the Second Amendment.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit
> pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old
> drunk black kid?
> Future president of the NRA.
+1. It is time to repeal the Second Amendment.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:13PM
Whne you have a chance take a look at the crime stats for the killings and shootings in DC and Chicago. The majortiy of the perps (and victims) are black teenagers. If you arent afraid, youre crazy!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
NOW is the time
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:20PM
repeal it now Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> chicken-shit
> > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> old
> > drunk black kid?
> > Future president of the NRA.
>
>
> +1. It is time to repeal the Second Amendment.
^This
Get behind this people! This is the only guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their lunacy.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Amendment/371249309570118
http://americamagazine.org/issue/repeal-second-amendment
http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/repeal-the-second/Content?oid=2795918
-------------------------------------------------------
> Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> chicken-shit
> > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> old
> > drunk black kid?
> > Future president of the NRA.
>
>
> +1. It is time to repeal the Second Amendment.
^This
Get behind this people! This is the only guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their lunacy.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Amendment/371249309570118
http://americamagazine.org/issue/repeal-second-amendment
http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/repeal-the-second/Content?oid=2795918
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
think about it
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:32PM
If my alarm system went off in the middle of the night and my key pad showed an open window downstairs I would be scared as shit. Sorry but this kid had it coming to him.
You have every right to defend yourself when someone breaks into your home.
You have every right to defend yourself when someone breaks into your home.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Not the future president of NRA
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:33PM
Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
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> Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> chicken-shit
> > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> old
> > drunk black kid?
> > Future president of the NRA.
>
>
> uh huh. What would you have done, laughed at him
> and tried to escort him out the front door calling
> him silly?
>
> so dumb
Yea,I would have. I'm still a man first and not some NoVA pussy. The kid would be easy to knock out being drunk.
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> Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> chicken-shit
> > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> old
> > drunk black kid?
> > Future president of the NRA.
>
>
> uh huh. What would you have done, laughed at him
> and tried to escort him out the front door calling
> him silly?
>
> so dumb
Yea,I would have. I'm still a man first and not some NoVA pussy. The kid would be easy to knock out being drunk.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Rocket J.
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:44PM
NOW is the time Wrote:
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> repeal it now Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > chicken-shit
> > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> > old
> > > drunk black kid?
> > > Future president of the NRA.
> >
> >
> > +1. It is time to repeal the Second Amendment.
>
> ^This
>
> Get behind this people! This is the only
> guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their lunacy.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
> endment/371249309570118
The above has had 410 "likes". scary
>
> http://americamagazine.org/issue/repeal-second-ame
Never heard of them. What's their readership?
>
> http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/repeal-the-second
> /Content?oid=2795918
Who is this guy? LOL!
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> repeal it now Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > chicken-shit
> > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year
> > old
> > > drunk black kid?
> > > Future president of the NRA.
> >
> >
> > +1. It is time to repeal the Second Amendment.
>
> ^This
>
> Get behind this people! This is the only
> guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their lunacy.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
> endment/371249309570118
The above has had 410 "likes". scary
>
> http://americamagazine.org/issue/repeal-second-ame
Never heard of them. What's their readership?
>
> http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/repeal-the-second
> /Content?oid=2795918
Who is this guy? LOL!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
NOW is the time
()
Date: March 19, 2013 03:47PM
Rocket J. Wrote:
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> NOW is the time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > repeal it now Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > > chicken-shit
> > > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16
> year
> > > old
> > > > drunk black kid?
> > > > Future president of the NRA.
> > >
> > >
> > > +1. It is time to repeal the Second
> Amendment.
> >
> > ^This
> >
> > Get behind this people! This is the only
> > guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their
> lunacy.
> >
> >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
>
> > endment/371249309570118
>
> The above has had 410 "likes". scary
I know. It is scary that more people haven't liked it. I hope you consider joining the cause.
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> NOW is the time Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > repeal it now Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > > chicken-shit
> > > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16
> year
> > > old
> > > > drunk black kid?
> > > > Future president of the NRA.
> > >
> > >
> > > +1. It is time to repeal the Second
> Amendment.
> >
> > ^This
> >
> > Get behind this people! This is the only
> > guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their
> lunacy.
> >
> >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
>
> > endment/371249309570118
>
> The above has had 410 "likes". scary
I know. It is scary that more people haven't liked it. I hope you consider joining the cause.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:04PM
>
> Maybe not true but why was the guys window
> unlocked and he was armed?
> There is probably more to this story than a cross
> dressing weirdo. Where was the wife and kid? Any
> kid who was drunk would scare off when the alarm
> went off. Was the kid down the steps or up the
> steps?
> This could get real interesting for the conspiracy
> theorists.
I got one for ya
kids know he's a cross dressing wierdo - dump their drunk buddy off at the house thinking it'll maybe end up in a funny goof in an American Pie/Hangover kinda way................
> Maybe not true but why was the guys window
> unlocked and he was armed?
> There is probably more to this story than a cross
> dressing weirdo. Where was the wife and kid? Any
> kid who was drunk would scare off when the alarm
> went off. Was the kid down the steps or up the
> steps?
> This could get real interesting for the conspiracy
> theorists.
I got one for ya
kids know he's a cross dressing wierdo - dump their drunk buddy off at the house thinking it'll maybe end up in a funny goof in an American Pie/Hangover kinda way................
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
unlocked?
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:05PM
How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell, I probably have unlocked windows at my house and have no idea.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
KCMyk
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:09PM
Batter up Wrote:
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> What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> Louisville slugger works best. Used one years ago
> to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their night
> and the next three years of their life. Will never
> forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A bat
> against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I just
> finished reparing and painting the room so didn't
> feel like shooting them.
Looking beyond the lack of understanding the English language, this story is bullshit.
There is no room in a house to swing a bat freely, unless you somehow met them in the MIDDLE of a living or bed room, doubtful. There were multiple intruders, so choosing a bat is a mistake someone with self-defense knowledge would not make. If they had a gun, you would have been shot. Saying "I am tired of shooting people" gives the whole bullshit story away, as you have just made it a "Macho-Man" contest.
Try again.
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> What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> Louisville slugger works best. Used one years ago
> to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their night
> and the next three years of their life. Will never
> forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A bat
> against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I just
> finished reparing and painting the room so didn't
> feel like shooting them.
Looking beyond the lack of understanding the English language, this story is bullshit.
There is no room in a house to swing a bat freely, unless you somehow met them in the MIDDLE of a living or bed room, doubtful. There were multiple intruders, so choosing a bat is a mistake someone with self-defense knowledge would not make. If they had a gun, you would have been shot. Saying "I am tired of shooting people" gives the whole bullshit story away, as you have just made it a "Macho-Man" contest.
Try again.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
high road
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:18PM
Va. teen's parents say they forgive his killer
Tuesday - 3/19/2013, 2:27pm ET
The family of 16-year-old Caleb Gordley says they forgive their neighbor for shooting and killing their son. (WTOP/Nick Iannelli)Nick Ianelli, wtop.com
STERLING, Va. - Their son was shot and killed over the weekend. But Tuesday morning under blue skies and sunshine, the family of 16-year-old Caleb Gordley expressed acceptance and forgiveness.
"I don't blame the gentleman," says Jennea Gordley, adding that she forgives the shooter. "This was an accident."
Gordley's son was shot and killed this past weekend inside a neighbor's home. Family members say he entered the wrong house mistakenly after a night of drinking.
He was shot by the homeowner.
"I love my son," says Caleb's father, Shawn Gordley. "I don't have any tears left."
Still, the family says they will move away from their Sterling neighborhood. They can't stand to live on that block anymore.
Those close to the high school junior live both in the D.C. area and in Ohio, where the family has many relatives.
A "celebration" of his life will occur in both locations, according to the family.
Meanwhile, the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office is investigating, and family members say they have been less than helpful.
"Everything I've gotten, beyond the very little they (sheriff's officials) have told us, has come from the media," Shawn Gordley says.
Jennea Gordley described the department's actions as "unfair."
WTOP obtained a statement from the department Tuesday.
It reads, "The LCSO offers it's condolences to the family and friends of Caleb Gordley, and continues to investigate this incident. The LCSO only disseminates accurate information to the family and to the public, as it becomes available. There is a lot of speculation and rumor in this case, and we are working on sorting out the facts. It would be irresponsible to put out information that's not verified."
Sheriff's officials say they have been in regular contact with the family and will continue sharing information as the investigation comes to a close.
In the meantime, the Gordleys are just trying to stay positive.
"I got 16-and-a-half awesome years (with Caleb)," his father says. "I will hold on to that. I will hold on to those 16 years."
Tuesday - 3/19/2013, 2:27pm ET
The family of 16-year-old Caleb Gordley says they forgive their neighbor for shooting and killing their son. (WTOP/Nick Iannelli)Nick Ianelli, wtop.com
STERLING, Va. - Their son was shot and killed over the weekend. But Tuesday morning under blue skies and sunshine, the family of 16-year-old Caleb Gordley expressed acceptance and forgiveness.
"I don't blame the gentleman," says Jennea Gordley, adding that she forgives the shooter. "This was an accident."
Gordley's son was shot and killed this past weekend inside a neighbor's home. Family members say he entered the wrong house mistakenly after a night of drinking.
He was shot by the homeowner.
"I love my son," says Caleb's father, Shawn Gordley. "I don't have any tears left."
Still, the family says they will move away from their Sterling neighborhood. They can't stand to live on that block anymore.
Those close to the high school junior live both in the D.C. area and in Ohio, where the family has many relatives.
A "celebration" of his life will occur in both locations, according to the family.
Meanwhile, the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office is investigating, and family members say they have been less than helpful.
"Everything I've gotten, beyond the very little they (sheriff's officials) have told us, has come from the media," Shawn Gordley says.
Jennea Gordley described the department's actions as "unfair."
WTOP obtained a statement from the department Tuesday.
It reads, "The LCSO offers it's condolences to the family and friends of Caleb Gordley, and continues to investigate this incident. The LCSO only disseminates accurate information to the family and to the public, as it becomes available. There is a lot of speculation and rumor in this case, and we are working on sorting out the facts. It would be irresponsible to put out information that's not verified."
Sheriff's officials say they have been in regular contact with the family and will continue sharing information as the investigation comes to a close.
In the meantime, the Gordleys are just trying to stay positive.
"I got 16-and-a-half awesome years (with Caleb)," his father says. "I will hold on to that. I will hold on to those 16 years."
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Libtwats
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:19PM
Yeah, rather than shooting the intruder he should have done what every good libtwat does when they find a young black man in their house at night... drop to their knees and offer to suck dick.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:20PM
unlocked? Wrote:
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> How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell, I
> probably have unlocked windows at my house and
> have no idea.
yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms usually actually do basic security things like lock their windows...............you know, because THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
-------------------------------------------------------
> How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell, I
> probably have unlocked windows at my house and
> have no idea.
yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms usually actually do basic security things like lock their windows...............you know, because THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
unlocked
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:21PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> unlocked? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell,
> I
> > probably have unlocked windows at my house and
> > have no idea.
>
>
> yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms
> usually actually do basic security things like
> lock their windows...............you know, because
> THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?
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> unlocked? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How do we know the window was unlocked. Hell,
> I
> > probably have unlocked windows at my house and
> > have no idea.
>
>
> yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms
> usually actually do basic security things like
> lock their windows...............you know, because
> THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
WingNut
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:22PM
A baseball bat is a great visual deterrent but ineffective against an opponent who is determined and willing to duck and dodge.
I saw a big dude with a ball bat get the shit beat out of him by a much smaller guy once. The guy wielding the bat let it drop below his shoulders after a clumsy swing or two and the little guy cracked him multiple times as his guard was down and his face was easy prey. Fists are lighter and travel faster.
I carried a ball bat (and a glove to defuse weapon allegations) for years. Great to use just to scare away the average dolt who gets a little froggy, but any decent martial arts or MMA guy has the bob-weave-duck down well enough to render a bat useless.
Sorry to break the news but like em or not, handguns rule.
I saw a big dude with a ball bat get the shit beat out of him by a much smaller guy once. The guy wielding the bat let it drop below his shoulders after a clumsy swing or two and the little guy cracked him multiple times as his guard was down and his face was easy prey. Fists are lighter and travel faster.
I carried a ball bat (and a glove to defuse weapon allegations) for years. Great to use just to scare away the average dolt who gets a little froggy, but any decent martial arts or MMA guy has the bob-weave-duck down well enough to render a bat useless.
Sorry to break the news but like em or not, handguns rule.
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:23PM
unlocked Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > unlocked? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How do we know the window was unlocked.
> Hell,
> > I
> > > probably have unlocked windows at my house
> and
> > > have no idea.
> >
> >
> > yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms
> > usually actually do basic security things like
> > lock their windows...............you know,
> because
> > THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
>
>
> Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?
i dunno we do. thats why i asked if we know if it was or not a "true" break-in or not
-------------------------------------------------------
> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > unlocked? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How do we know the window was unlocked.
> Hell,
> > I
> > > probably have unlocked windows at my house
> and
> > > have no idea.
> >
> >
> > yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have firearms
> > usually actually do basic security things like
> > lock their windows...............you know,
> because
> > THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
>
>
> Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?
i dunno we do. thats why i asked if we know if it was or not a "true" break-in or not
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
street view
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:23PM
These house look nothing like each other from behind. One is parallel to Church Road, the other is at an angle. The features are also very different - notably a screened in porch. Plus one house is opposite the turning lane and right off an intersection, the other is opposite a 2 lane portion of the road. The backyards are also noticeably different in size.
The 'wrong house' argument is a little fishy.
The 'wrong house' argument is a little fishy.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Tbone
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:25PM
To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not responsible for this.The host of the party andb anyone who provid ed the booze to this young man is. Get real n wake up.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
just the facts
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:28PM
Legal
- Kinky sex
- Handguns
- Unlocked windows
- Shooting intruders in your home
Illegal
- Underage drinking
- Trespassing
- Breaking and entering
- Menacing
I think the homeowner wins on this one.
- Kinky sex
- Handguns
- Unlocked windows
- Shooting intruders in your home
Illegal
- Underage drinking
- Trespassing
- Breaking and entering
- Menacing
I think the homeowner wins on this one.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Hey Batta Batta
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:28PM
WingNut Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A baseball bat is a great visual deterrent but
> ineffective against an opponent who is determined
> and willing to duck and dodge.
>
>
> I saw a big dude with a ball bat get the shit beat
> out of him by a much smaller guy once. The guy
> wielding the bat let it drop below his shoulders
> after a clumsy swing or two and the little guy
> cracked him multiple times as his guard was down
> and his face was easy prey. Fists are lighter and
> travel faster.
>
> I carried a ball bat (and a glove to defuse weapon
> allegations) for years. Great to use just to scare
> away the average dolt who gets a little froggy,
> but any decent martial arts or MMA guy has the
> bob-weave-duck down well enough to render a bat
> useless.
>
> Sorry to break the news but like em or not,
> handguns rule.
Yeah, but he didn't have a tactical bat.
-------------------------------------------------------
> A baseball bat is a great visual deterrent but
> ineffective against an opponent who is determined
> and willing to duck and dodge.
>
>
> I saw a big dude with a ball bat get the shit beat
> out of him by a much smaller guy once. The guy
> wielding the bat let it drop below his shoulders
> after a clumsy swing or two and the little guy
> cracked him multiple times as his guard was down
> and his face was easy prey. Fists are lighter and
> travel faster.
>
> I carried a ball bat (and a glove to defuse weapon
> allegations) for years. Great to use just to scare
> away the average dolt who gets a little froggy,
> but any decent martial arts or MMA guy has the
> bob-weave-duck down well enough to render a bat
> useless.
>
> Sorry to break the news but like em or not,
> handguns rule.
Yeah, but he didn't have a tactical bat.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
to break
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:29PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> unlocked Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > unlocked? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > How do we know the window was unlocked.
> > Hell,
> > > I
> > > > probably have unlocked windows at my house
> > and
> > > > have no idea.
> > >
> > >
> > > yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have
> firearms
> > > usually actually do basic security things
> like
> > > lock their windows...............you know,
> > because
> > > THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
> >
> >
> > Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?
>
> i dunno we do. thats why i asked if we know if it
> was or not a "true" break-in or not
You don't need the windows to be locked to be a true break in. The act of opening it is sufficient to qualify as a "break in."
-------------------------------------------------------
> unlocked Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > unlocked? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > How do we know the window was unlocked.
> > Hell,
> > > I
> > > > probably have unlocked windows at my house
> > and
> > > > have no idea.
> > >
> > >
> > > yeah, I know. But NORMAL ppl who have
> firearms
> > > usually actually do basic security things
> like
> > > lock their windows...............you know,
> > because
> > > THEY HAVE A FIREARM.
> >
> >
> > Again, how do we know the window was unlocked?
>
> i dunno we do. thats why i asked if we know if it
> was or not a "true" break-in or not
You don't need the windows to be locked to be a true break in. The act of opening it is sufficient to qualify as a "break in."
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Rocket J.
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:31PM
NOW is the time Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Rocket J. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NOW is the time Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > repeal it now Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > > > chicken-shit
> > > > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16
> > year
> > > > old
> > > > > drunk black kid?
> > > > > Future president of the NRA.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1. It is time to repeal the Second
> > Amendment.
> > >
> > > ^This
> > >
> > > Get behind this people! This is the only
> > > guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their
> > lunacy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
>
> >
> > > endment/371249309570118
> >
> > The above has had 410 "likes". scary
>
> I know. It is scary that more people haven't
> liked it. I hope you consider joining the cause.
Laughable at best. Harry Reid just declared Diane's "assault weapons bill"
dead in the Senate so I doubt you'll be signing up more "likes". Meanwhile,
the NRA membership has grown by nearly a million in the last three months.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Rocket J. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NOW is the time Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > repeal it now Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding)
> > > > chicken-shit
> > > > > pissing in his panties is scared of a 16
> > year
> > > > old
> > > > > drunk black kid?
> > > > > Future president of the NRA.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +1. It is time to repeal the Second
> > Amendment.
> > >
> > > ^This
> > >
> > > Get behind this people! This is the only
> > > guarenteed way to stop the NRA and their
> > lunacy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Second-Am
>
> >
> > > endment/371249309570118
> >
> > The above has had 410 "likes". scary
>
> I know. It is scary that more people haven't
> liked it. I hope you consider joining the cause.
Laughable at best. Harry Reid just declared Diane's "assault weapons bill"
dead in the Senate so I doubt you'll be signing up more "likes". Meanwhile,
the NRA membership has grown by nearly a million in the last three months.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Alarm system owner
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:38PM
I cannot arm my alarm system if a window is left unlocked. My alarm system is not some cheap piece of shit so that might have something to do with it.
I do NOT blame the owner of the house. He had every right to defend himself and his family.
Sad situation all around.
I do NOT blame the owner of the house. He had every right to defend himself and his family.
Sad situation all around.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Tin Soilders and Nixon gone
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:45PM
KCMyk Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Batter up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> > Louisville slugger works best. Used one years
> ago
> > to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their
> night
> > and the next three years of their life. Will
> never
> > forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A
> bat
> > against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> > Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I
> just
> > finished reparing and painting the room so
> didn't
> > feel like shooting them.
>
> Looking beyond the lack of understanding the
> English language, this story is bullshit.
>
> There is no room in a house to swing a bat freely,
> unless you somehow met them in the MIDDLE of a
> living or bed room, doubtful. There were multiple
> intruders, so choosing a bat is a mistake someone
> with self-defense knowledge would not make. If
> they had a gun, you would have been shot. Saying
> "I am tired of shooting people" gives the whole
> bullshit story away, as you have just made it a
> "Macho-Man" contest.
>
> Try again.
Go Senators Wrote:
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>
>
> No holes in the wall. Only pistol I have ever
> owned is a Remington M1911 and the rounds were
> .45acp hardballs. Sparse furniture after
> renovation but who cares.
> There was some blood and few broken teeth.
> I was tired of shooting people.
> "Live in peace or in pieces "
1971 and just got back from another world. Trying to find peace within so I bought a nice stone house in Falls Church to renovate. Two dumbasses decided that the house was unoccupied and needed a place to hide. They both had priors and the police were very interested in them. They picked the wrong residence.
Not a macho man but just your average pissed on/off VV. Their were quite a few bad nights over the next decade.
Take it anyway you want but killing can fuck up a good nights sleep.
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> Batter up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > What's NCIS? Personally I have found that the
> > Louisville slugger works best. Used one years
> ago
> > to inconvenience to burglers. Ruined their
> night
> > and the next three years of their life. Will
> never
> > forget the sound when the bat hits the bone. A
> bat
> > against a .38 and two dumbasses in one inning.
> > Only one lamp broken when dumbass 2 fell. I
> just
> > finished reparing and painting the room so
> didn't
> > feel like shooting them.
>
> Looking beyond the lack of understanding the
> English language, this story is bullshit.
>
> There is no room in a house to swing a bat freely,
> unless you somehow met them in the MIDDLE of a
> living or bed room, doubtful. There were multiple
> intruders, so choosing a bat is a mistake someone
> with self-defense knowledge would not make. If
> they had a gun, you would have been shot. Saying
> "I am tired of shooting people" gives the whole
> bullshit story away, as you have just made it a
> "Macho-Man" contest.
>
> Try again.
Go Senators Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No holes in the wall. Only pistol I have ever
> owned is a Remington M1911 and the rounds were
> .45acp hardballs. Sparse furniture after
> renovation but who cares.
> There was some blood and few broken teeth.
> I was tired of shooting people.
> "Live in peace or in pieces "
1971 and just got back from another world. Trying to find peace within so I bought a nice stone house in Falls Church to renovate. Two dumbasses decided that the house was unoccupied and needed a place to hide. They both had priors and the police were very interested in them. They picked the wrong residence.
Not a macho man but just your average pissed on/off VV. Their were quite a few bad nights over the next decade.
Take it anyway you want but killing can fuck up a good nights sleep.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Connie Lingus
()
Date: March 19, 2013 04:49PM
Libtwats Wrote:
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> Yeah, rather than shooting the intruder he should
> have done what every good libtwat does when they
> find a young black man in their house at night...
> drop to their knees and offer to suck dick.
Hi twat. Long time no see.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah, rather than shooting the intruder he should
> have done what every good libtwat does when they
> find a young black man in their house at night...
> drop to their knees and offer to suck dick.
Hi twat. Long time no see.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Sigmund Sauer
()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:37PM
I must say, the blame for all this falls squarely on the shoulders of the absent parents. I don't believe for one second that good ole Mom and Dad grounded him for not cleaning his room...geeez!And if they did, wouldn't you check on your 16 year old son at some point during the evening (on a weekend night) to see how he's doing? Yet they still don't know where he is at 2:30am? Poor parenting to say the least. I agree with some previous posts, look like he had it coming and the parents know it, did you hear that statement his mother made??? "It's all good, I don't hold nobody at fault...whose to say what the good Lord wanted, he's an angel now..ain't nothing but a thing???
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Still Alive
()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:43PM
Dear NOW is the time. Twenty years ago an armed intruder broke into my house. Specifically, in my baby son's room. I grabbed the phone, dialed 911, threw it on the floor. I also grabbed the shotgun and as the dispatcher was yelling "m'am, m'am, they are on their way!" I shot at the foot that had broken through the screen just a few feet away from my son's crib. The police came 6 minutes later; the intruder had a gun and a knife, and was on parole for a violent offense.
If you don't want a gun, don't buy a gun. But don't you DARE presume to take away my right to defend myself and my family. (Arrogant, ignorant, kool-aid drinking jackass, she mumbled to herself.)
If you don't want a gun, don't buy a gun. But don't you DARE presume to take away my right to defend myself and my family. (Arrogant, ignorant, kool-aid drinking jackass, she mumbled to herself.)
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
LCS press release
()
Date: March 19, 2013 05:53PM
Posted on: March 18, 2013
Teenager Identified in Fatal Shooting on Pullman Court
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 18, 2013
Contact: Liz Mills, Director of Media Relations and Communications, 571-251-5568 (mobile)
Liz.mills@loudoun.gov
Loudoun County, VA- The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office has identified a Park View High Student who was fatally shot inside a Sterling, Virginia home as Caleb A. Gordley
Loudoun County Sheriff’s Deputies initially responded to the home in the 45900 block of Pullman Court for a report of a burglary with shots fired by the homeowner. The shooting took place shortly after 2:30AM Sunday when a resident reported that their house alarm was activated. As the homeowner went to investigate, he discovered an unknown male inside their home on the stairwell. The teenager lost his life at the scene.
The 16-year-old lived on the same street as the home where the shooting took place and reportedly had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening. A rear window to the home was found opened and is believed to be the point of entry into the home.
The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office continues to investigate the circumstances surrounding the shooting and why the teenager entered the home. The agency is also awaiting a final report from the Medical Examiner’s Office, to include a toxicology report, to determine if drugs or alcohol played a factor.
If you have not already spoken to Detectives with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and have information regarding the case, you are asked to call the Criminal Investigations Division at 703-777-0475.
Teenager Identified in Fatal Shooting on Pullman Court
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 18, 2013
Contact: Liz Mills, Director of Media Relations and Communications, 571-251-5568 (mobile)
Liz.mills@loudoun.gov
Loudoun County, VA- The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office has identified a Park View High Student who was fatally shot inside a Sterling, Virginia home as Caleb A. Gordley
Loudoun County Sheriff’s Deputies initially responded to the home in the 45900 block of Pullman Court for a report of a burglary with shots fired by the homeowner. The shooting took place shortly after 2:30AM Sunday when a resident reported that their house alarm was activated. As the homeowner went to investigate, he discovered an unknown male inside their home on the stairwell. The teenager lost his life at the scene.
The 16-year-old lived on the same street as the home where the shooting took place and reportedly had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening. A rear window to the home was found opened and is believed to be the point of entry into the home.
The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office continues to investigate the circumstances surrounding the shooting and why the teenager entered the home. The agency is also awaiting a final report from the Medical Examiner’s Office, to include a toxicology report, to determine if drugs or alcohol played a factor.
If you have not already spoken to Detectives with the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office and have information regarding the case, you are asked to call the Criminal Investigations Division at 703-777-0475.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Myrtle Buttress
()
Date: March 19, 2013 06:09PM
Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong. Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it commonplace that the young man was out "drinking" like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school night? And drinking so much that he supposedly was obliterated out of his mind enough to become disoriented?
Forget gun control: where's the parental control?
Forget gun control: where's the parental control?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Flash My Grillz
()
Date: March 19, 2013 06:13PM
Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
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> Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night
> (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong.
> Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it
> commonplace that the young man was out "drinking"
> like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> was obliterated out of his mind enough to become
> disoriented?
>
> Forget gun control: where's the parental control?
Yo, it's a hard thug's life in the Sterlinghood.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night
> (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong.
> Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it
> commonplace that the young man was out "drinking"
> like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> was obliterated out of his mind enough to become
> disoriented?
>
> Forget gun control: where's the parental control?
Yo, it's a hard thug's life in the Sterlinghood.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
late night
()
Date: March 19, 2013 07:14PM
Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
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> Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night
> (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong.
> Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it
> commonplace that the young man was out "drinking"
> like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> was obliterated out of his mind enough to become
> disoriented?
>
> Forget gun control: where's the parental control?
Technically speaking he went out on Saturday night and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday morning. I agree with everything else you said though.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday night
> (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out wrong.
> Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was it
> commonplace that the young man was out "drinking"
> like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> was obliterated out of his mind enough to become
> disoriented?
>
> Forget gun control: where's the parental control?
Technically speaking he went out on Saturday night and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday morning. I agree with everything else you said though.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
You are creating the problem
()
Date: March 19, 2013 07:30PM
late night Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday
> night
> > (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> > drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out
> wrong.
> > Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was
> it
> > commonplace that the young man was out
> "drinking"
> > like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> > night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> > was obliterated out of his mind enough to
> become
> > disoriented?
> >
> > Forget gun control: where's the parental
> control?
>
>
> Technically speaking he went out on Saturday night
> and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday
> morning. I agree with everything else you said
> though.
This was a normal night for us way back when. The difference is our neighbors would got us a drink of water, put us on the sofa with blanket and called the parents in the morning. Good neighbors would tell a little white lie and cover our asses. My parents would. Hell is when the police brought you home. Not for being drunk but for getting caught. We survived and graduated to become outstanding citizens and leaders.
This incident is a reflection of times and paranoia. You should make an effort to know your neighbors and become friends.
I feel sorry for the state of northern VA.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday
> night
> > (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m. and
> > drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out
> wrong.
> > Was he being raised by absentee parents? Was
> it
> > commonplace that the young man was out
> "drinking"
> > like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a school
> > night? And drinking so much that he supposedly
> > was obliterated out of his mind enough to
> become
> > disoriented?
> >
> > Forget gun control: where's the parental
> control?
>
>
> Technically speaking he went out on Saturday night
> and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday
> morning. I agree with everything else you said
> though.
This was a normal night for us way back when. The difference is our neighbors would got us a drink of water, put us on the sofa with blanket and called the parents in the morning. Good neighbors would tell a little white lie and cover our asses. My parents would. Hell is when the police brought you home. Not for being drunk but for getting caught. We survived and graduated to become outstanding citizens and leaders.
This incident is a reflection of times and paranoia. You should make an effort to know your neighbors and become friends.
I feel sorry for the state of northern VA.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 19, 2013 07:40PM
@you - no fooling, right? Incredible that the fucking neighbor didnt recognize the kid two doors down. Sign o the times, m'man. And they say it's the immigrants destroying the USA .
that being said, we still dont know the "interaction" between the kid and the tranny(?) so that debate is still up for grabs. Even if he knew the kid, if the kid was aggressive then it's kinda on him, unfortunately :(
@to break - yeah, we got that, Perry Mason. This aint a court o'law and we are STILL JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF SOMEONE BROKE A WINDOW OR LATCH TO GAIN ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUSHING OPEN AN UNLATCHED WINDOW OR ACCESSING AN ALREADY OPEN WINDOW. Does yr mom have to chew yr food and spit it in yr mouth for you to be able to swallow it? o_0
that being said, we still dont know the "interaction" between the kid and the tranny(?) so that debate is still up for grabs. Even if he knew the kid, if the kid was aggressive then it's kinda on him, unfortunately :(
@to break - yeah, we got that, Perry Mason. This aint a court o'law and we are STILL JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF SOMEONE BROKE A WINDOW OR LATCH TO GAIN ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUSHING OPEN AN UNLATCHED WINDOW OR ACCESSING AN ALREADY OPEN WINDOW. Does yr mom have to chew yr food and spit it in yr mouth for you to be able to swallow it? o_0
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Neighbors gone wild
()
Date: March 19, 2013 07:50PM
Outstanding citizen of Fairfax Wrote:
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> Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit
> pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old
> drunk black kid?
> Future president of the NRA.
Does he use his wifes, daughters or buy his own dresses?
Maybe GB was right and his friends dropped him off on purpose.
Or maybe either the wife or daughter needed some dark meat.
Enquiring minds want to know.
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> Cross-Dressing gun wielding(yielding) chicken-shit
> pissing in his panties is scared of a 16 year old
> drunk black kid?
> Future president of the NRA.
Does he use his wifes, daughters or buy his own dresses?
Maybe GB was right and his friends dropped him off on purpose.
Or maybe either the wife or daughter needed some dark meat.
Enquiring minds want to know.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Bill Brady
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:14PM
Yet another victim of the terrorist organization known as the NRA (American)
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Shoot relatives not neighbors
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:21PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @you - no fooling, right? Incredible that the
> fucking neighbor didnt recognize the kid two doors
> down. Sign o the times, m'man. And they say it's
> the immigrants destroying the USA .
>
> that being said, we still dont know the
> "interaction" between the kid and the tranny(?) so
> that debate is still up for grabs. Even if he
> knew the kid, if the kid was aggressive then it's
> kinda on him, unfortunately :(
>
> @to break - yeah, we got that, Perry Mason. This
> aint a court o'law and we are STILL JUST TRYING TO
> FIGURE OUT IF SOMEONE BROKE A WINDOW OR LATCH TO
> GAIN ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUSHING OPEN AN
> UNLATCHED WINDOW OR ACCESSING AN ALREADY OPEN
> WINDOW. Does yr mom have to chew yr food and spit
> it in yr mouth for you to be able to swallow it?
> o_0W
This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots neighbors.
Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but cross dresser should be held accountable.
-------------------------------------------------------
> @you - no fooling, right? Incredible that the
> fucking neighbor didnt recognize the kid two doors
> down. Sign o the times, m'man. And they say it's
> the immigrants destroying the USA .
>
> that being said, we still dont know the
> "interaction" between the kid and the tranny(?) so
> that debate is still up for grabs. Even if he
> knew the kid, if the kid was aggressive then it's
> kinda on him, unfortunately :(
>
> @to break - yeah, we got that, Perry Mason. This
> aint a court o'law and we are STILL JUST TRYING TO
> FIGURE OUT IF SOMEONE BROKE A WINDOW OR LATCH TO
> GAIN ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUSHING OPEN AN
> UNLATCHED WINDOW OR ACCESSING AN ALREADY OPEN
> WINDOW. Does yr mom have to chew yr food and spit
> it in yr mouth for you to be able to swallow it?
> o_0W
This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots neighbors.
Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but cross dresser should be held accountable.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
STUI
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:26PM
Do we know where exactly the kid was shot? Head, chest,back,abdomen? I am guessing chest wound through the heart or liver but I would like to know.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Billy K
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:29PM
What is all this talk of cross dressing by shooter? Can someone post something on the guy please. I googled him and found nothing. Please show me some link on this faggot.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Relevant experience
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:35PM
Tough to type by true:
Mother of two typical teenage boys
Good kids, good grades, athletic and play on HS teams
They test me and do dumb things....
Last year alarm goes off at 2:15 in the morning; forced entry. Those who attempted entry bolted, thank God! Police responded very quickly, here for hours and determined attempted entry, busted screen downstairs in utility room, foot prints, etc.
Fast forward; took shooting lessons, practice, practice, practice and hope I never have to use the gun I purchased ever but know that if someone ever came into the home I would protect my kids. We have talked long and hard about telling friends not to do stupid stuff at our home ever; my kids included.
I hate guns but know that I'll not put my family through that night again.
Mother of two typical teenage boys
Good kids, good grades, athletic and play on HS teams
They test me and do dumb things....
Last year alarm goes off at 2:15 in the morning; forced entry. Those who attempted entry bolted, thank God! Police responded very quickly, here for hours and determined attempted entry, busted screen downstairs in utility room, foot prints, etc.
Fast forward; took shooting lessons, practice, practice, practice and hope I never have to use the gun I purchased ever but know that if someone ever came into the home I would protect my kids. We have talked long and hard about telling friends not to do stupid stuff at our home ever; my kids included.
I hate guns but know that I'll not put my family through that night again.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
dirty h
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:44PM
WingNut Wrote:
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> Shooter may have been waiting all his life for a
> legal excuse to pop someone?
This^
Several gunslingers at work today were absolutely green with envy. They have wet dreams about getting a legal human kill. Few, if any ever will.
They're all hunters too. They invest tens of thousands of dollars on their hunting equipment. They swear up and down that they just really, really love that nasty deer meat. It's all a smokescreen, they just want to kill something, and since legal human shots are so rare, Bambi will do.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shooter may have been waiting all his life for a
> legal excuse to pop someone?
This^
Several gunslingers at work today were absolutely green with envy. They have wet dreams about getting a legal human kill. Few, if any ever will.
They're all hunters too. They invest tens of thousands of dollars on their hunting equipment. They swear up and down that they just really, really love that nasty deer meat. It's all a smokescreen, they just want to kill something, and since legal human shots are so rare, Bambi will do.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Mr. Relevant
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:52PM
He would still be alive today if he went to a local cougar bar. He would have some extra spending money as a result too.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
A Realistic View
()
Date: March 19, 2013 08:53PM
Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
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> This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots neighbors.
> Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but
> cross dresser should be held accountable.
You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact that a
person might know an intruder create an obligation of any
kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this case,
it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly invaded the
home.
A black family lives next to me. We've had our differences
at time but generally keep it at least civil. If I awake
at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I recognize
who it is, do I have any responsibility to further determine
his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior to employing
deadly force against what I perceive as a threat to myself
and/or my family?
Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I grab my gun
and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain of where
my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I fully intend
to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the house. I move
slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a high-output LED, is
intended when used to disorient at least momentarily anyone I
encounter, just long enough to make that double-tap count. I do
not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop them and the
surest way to do that is to kill them.
And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than I am. How would
one know the age of an assailant under those conditions? Can a
16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger? Wield a knife?
If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too late.
-------------------------------------------------------
> This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots neighbors.
> Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but
> cross dresser should be held accountable.
You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact that a
person might know an intruder create an obligation of any
kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this case,
it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly invaded the
home.
A black family lives next to me. We've had our differences
at time but generally keep it at least civil. If I awake
at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I recognize
who it is, do I have any responsibility to further determine
his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior to employing
deadly force against what I perceive as a threat to myself
and/or my family?
Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I grab my gun
and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain of where
my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I fully intend
to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the house. I move
slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a high-output LED, is
intended when used to disorient at least momentarily anyone I
encounter, just long enough to make that double-tap count. I do
not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop them and the
surest way to do that is to kill them.
And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than I am. How would
one know the age of an assailant under those conditions? Can a
16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger? Wield a knife?
If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too late.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:08PM
Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but
> cross dresser should be held accountable.
Stay the fuck out of other people's homes and you dont have to worry about any of this.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry but
> cross dresser should be held accountable.
Stay the fuck out of other people's homes and you dont have to worry about any of this.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Don't shoot your own kids
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:17PM
A Realistic View Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact
> that a
> person might know an intruder create an obligation
> of any
> kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this
> case,
> it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly
> invaded the
> home.
>
> A black family lives next to me. We've had our
> differences
> at time but generally keep it at least civil. If
> I awake
> at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I
> recognize
> who it is, do I have any responsibility to further
> determine
> his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior
> to employing
> deadly force against what I perceive as a threat
> to myself
> and/or my family?
>
> Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I
> grab my gun
> and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain
> of where
> my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I
> fully intend
> to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the
> house. I move
> slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a
> high-output LED, is
> intended when used to disorient at least
> momentarily anyone I
> encounter, just long enough to make that
> double-tap count. I do
> not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop
> them and the
> surest way to do that is to kill them.
>
> And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than
> I am. How would
> one know the age of an assailant under those
> conditions? Can a
> 16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger?
> Wield a knife?
>
> If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too
> late.
The flashlight would be enough. Did your little rehearsed statement get you off?
And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact
> that a
> person might know an intruder create an obligation
> of any
> kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this
> case,
> it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly
> invaded the
> home.
>
> A black family lives next to me. We've had our
> differences
> at time but generally keep it at least civil. If
> I awake
> at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I
> recognize
> who it is, do I have any responsibility to further
> determine
> his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior
> to employing
> deadly force against what I perceive as a threat
> to myself
> and/or my family?
>
> Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I
> grab my gun
> and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain
> of where
> my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I
> fully intend
> to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the
> house. I move
> slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a
> high-output LED, is
> intended when used to disorient at least
> momentarily anyone I
> encounter, just long enough to make that
> double-tap count. I do
> not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop
> them and the
> surest way to do that is to kill them.
>
> And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than
> I am. How would
> one know the age of an assailant under those
> conditions? Can a
> 16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger?
> Wield a knife?
>
> If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too
> late.
The flashlight would be enough. Did your little rehearsed statement get you off?
And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
If it smells, don't step in it
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:25PM
A Realistic View Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact
> that a
> person might know an intruder create an obligation
> of any
> kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this
> case,
> it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly
> invaded the
> home.
>
> A black family lives next to me. We've had our
> differences
> at time but generally keep it at least civil. If
> I awake
> at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I
> recognize
> who it is, do I have any responsibility to further
> determine
> his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior
> to employing
> deadly force against what I perceive as a threat
> to myself
> and/or my family?
>
> Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I
> grab my gun
> and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain
> of where
> my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I
> fully intend
> to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the
> house. I move
> slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a
> high-output LED, is
> intended when used to disorient at least
> momentarily anyone I
> encounter, just long enough to make that
> double-tap count. I do
> not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop
> them and the
> surest way to do that is to kill them.
>
> And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than
> I am. How would
> one know the age of an assailant under those
> conditions? Can a
> 16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger?
> Wield a knife?
>
> If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too
> late.
If cross dresser is a firefighter then waking at 2:30am is nothing.
Senses are alert and full attention so no excuse.
And the kid was his neighbor.
This stinks of bullshit.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> You bring up an interesting point. Does the fact
> that a
> person might know an intruder create an obligation
> of any
> kind to give more leeway before shooting? In this
> case,
> it was 2:30am, dark, and the kid had clearly
> invaded the
> home.
>
> A black family lives next to me. We've had our
> differences
> at time but generally keep it at least civil. If
> I awake
> at 2:30am to find him in my house, and let's say I
> recognize
> who it is, do I have any responsibility to further
> determine
> his intentions, state of mind, or condition prior
> to employing
> deadly force against what I perceive as a threat
> to myself
> and/or my family?
>
> Personally, I think not. If I hear something, I
> grab my gun
> and flashlight (keeping it off). Once I am certain
> of where
> my wife and child are, it's hunting season and I
> fully intend
> to kill without hesitation *anyone* I find in the
> house. I move
> slowly and quietly. The flashlight, with a
> high-output LED, is
> intended when used to disorient at least
> momentarily anyone I
> encounter, just long enough to make that
> double-tap count. I do
> not want to scare off an intruder, I want to stop
> them and the
> surest way to do that is to kill them.
>
> And I regularly encounter 16 year olds larger than
> I am. How would
> one know the age of an assailant under those
> conditions? Can a
> 16 y.o. inflict serious injury? Pull a trigger?
> Wield a knife?
>
> If a homeowner waits to find out, it's already too
> late.
If cross dresser is a firefighter then waking at 2:30am is nothing.
Senses are alert and full attention so no excuse.
And the kid was his neighbor.
This stinks of bullshit.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
just sad
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:39PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> > neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> Stay the fuck out of other people's homes and you
> dont have to worry about any of this.
^^^ The kid fucked up. I'm not sure what went down in that house, There is only one person who is alive that knows. Fuck, If I wake up to a house alarm at 2:30am and I'm armed and see a person I do not know in my house, It's defcon 1. you have limited seconds to make a choice.
It's a fucked up deal. I hope I'm never put in that situation,
I feel bad for all involved.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shoot relatives not neighbors Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > This incident stinks bullshit. No one shoots
> > neighbors.
> > Especially sixteen year old drunks. I'm sorry
> but
> > cross dresser should be held accountable.
>
> Stay the fuck out of other people's homes and you
> dont have to worry about any of this.
^^^ The kid fucked up. I'm not sure what went down in that house, There is only one person who is alive that knows. Fuck, If I wake up to a house alarm at 2:30am and I'm armed and see a person I do not know in my house, It's defcon 1. you have limited seconds to make a choice.
It's a fucked up deal. I hope I'm never put in that situation,
I feel bad for all involved.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
496
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:41PM
The only REAL thing to take out of this is:
WORMFOOD
WORMFOOD
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
A Realistic View
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:42PM
Don't shoot your own kids Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The flashlight would be enough. Did your little
> rehearsed statement get you off?
> And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?
The flashlight would be enough for what? To identify
that there's an intruder in my house, someone I do or
do not know, and by lighting him up I've lost time to
react and revealed myself to him, giving him time to
act?
Like I said, once I know where my family is, what obligation
exists except to protect them by whatever means necessary?
You didn't answer the question on knowing an intruder.
Did that part confuse you?
And what do swatstikas have to do with this discussion?
That's a poor way to obfuscate the issues when you're losing.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The flashlight would be enough. Did your little
> rehearsed statement get you off?
> And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?
The flashlight would be enough for what? To identify
that there's an intruder in my house, someone I do or
do not know, and by lighting him up I've lost time to
react and revealed myself to him, giving him time to
act?
Like I said, once I know where my family is, what obligation
exists except to protect them by whatever means necessary?
You didn't answer the question on knowing an intruder.
Did that part confuse you?
And what do swatstikas have to do with this discussion?
That's a poor way to obfuscate the issues when you're losing.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Neighbors in my hood
()
Date: March 19, 2013 09:58PM
A Realistic View Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Don't shoot your own kids Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The flashlight would be enough. Did your little
> > rehearsed statement get you off?
> > And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?
>
> The flashlight would be enough for what? To
> identify
> that there's an intruder in my house, someone I do
> or
> do not know, and by lighting him up I've lost time
> to
> react and revealed myself to him, giving him time
> to
> act?
>
> Like I said, once I know where my family is, what
> obligation
> exists except to protect them by whatever means
> necessary?
>
> You didn't answer the question on knowing an
> intruder.
> Did that part confuse you?
>
> And what do swatstikas have to do with this
> discussion?
> That's a poor way to obfuscate the issues when
> you're losing.
I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts decades ago.
You're the one who had to mention "black".
You stated you don't like your neighbors so your posting indicates you want the chance.
My friends are also my neighbors and if a young teenager came into my home I would calm him down and call his parents. I prefer having a beer with my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
Guns are the very last resort and I hope you never have to make that decision.
It can ruin a good nights sleep.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Don't shoot your own kids Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The flashlight would be enough. Did your little
> > rehearsed statement get you off?
> > And where is your swastika? Arm or Ass?
>
> The flashlight would be enough for what? To
> identify
> that there's an intruder in my house, someone I do
> or
> do not know, and by lighting him up I've lost time
> to
> react and revealed myself to him, giving him time
> to
> act?
>
> Like I said, once I know where my family is, what
> obligation
> exists except to protect them by whatever means
> necessary?
>
> You didn't answer the question on knowing an
> intruder.
> Did that part confuse you?
>
> And what do swatstikas have to do with this
> discussion?
> That's a poor way to obfuscate the issues when
> you're losing.
I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts decades ago.
You're the one who had to mention "black".
You stated you don't like your neighbors so your posting indicates you want the chance.
My friends are also my neighbors and if a young teenager came into my home I would calm him down and call his parents. I prefer having a beer with my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
Guns are the very last resort and I hope you never have to make that decision.
It can ruin a good nights sleep.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
A Realistic View
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:15PM
Neighbors in my hood Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts decades ago.
> You're the one who had to mention "black".
> You stated you don't like your neighbors so your
> posting indicates you want the chance.
> My friends are also my neighbors and if a young
> teenager came into my home I would calm him down
> and call his parents. I prefer having a beer with
> my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
> Guns are the very last resort and I hope you never
> have to make that decision. It can ruin a good nights sleep.
Black, asian, hispanic... green, orange or purple. I cited black
because there's a black family next door, and we don't always get
along. Does the fact that there's a black family in close proximity
obligate me to establish identity, condition and intent should
I find an intruder, black or otherwise, in my home? I hold not.
You seem to feel that teenagers are less capable of inflicting
harm and may just be in the middle of a youthful bad decision.
I would not wait for establishment of such, given that the
hesitation could be a fatal mistake on my part. The law backs
me up. Do what you feel is best for safety of your family, and
I will do likewise.
I agree that guns are a last resort, but need for them becomes
paramount when a threat presents itself. An intruder in your home
is such a threat. I hope I never have to shoot, but I hope less
to ever regret not shooting when my family's safety is at risk
and I had the means to eliminate the threat. In the meantime, I
have strong locks, clearly defined property boundaries, and an
alarm. Once those lines are crossed, the guns are the solution
that moves to the front of the line in dealing with those who
ignore the former.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts decades ago.
> You're the one who had to mention "black".
> You stated you don't like your neighbors so your
> posting indicates you want the chance.
> My friends are also my neighbors and if a young
> teenager came into my home I would calm him down
> and call his parents. I prefer having a beer with
> my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
> Guns are the very last resort and I hope you never
> have to make that decision. It can ruin a good nights sleep.
Black, asian, hispanic... green, orange or purple. I cited black
because there's a black family next door, and we don't always get
along. Does the fact that there's a black family in close proximity
obligate me to establish identity, condition and intent should
I find an intruder, black or otherwise, in my home? I hold not.
You seem to feel that teenagers are less capable of inflicting
harm and may just be in the middle of a youthful bad decision.
I would not wait for establishment of such, given that the
hesitation could be a fatal mistake on my part. The law backs
me up. Do what you feel is best for safety of your family, and
I will do likewise.
I agree that guns are a last resort, but need for them becomes
paramount when a threat presents itself. An intruder in your home
is such a threat. I hope I never have to shoot, but I hope less
to ever regret not shooting when my family's safety is at risk
and I had the means to eliminate the threat. In the meantime, I
have strong locks, clearly defined property boundaries, and an
alarm. Once those lines are crossed, the guns are the solution
that moves to the front of the line in dealing with those who
ignore the former.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:19PM
"My friends are also my neighbors and if a young teenager came into my home I would calm him down and call his parents."
I keep reading that "if I saw my neighbors kid", "if I saw a drunk teenager", etc.. "I would kick him out or calm him down or injur him with a non-lethal shot".
But you don't know if the lights were on or if it was a dark stairway at 230am. You also don't know what interaction took place on those stairs so you can't really judge someone for their actions without all the facts.
I keep reading that "if I saw my neighbors kid", "if I saw a drunk teenager", etc.. "I would kick him out or calm him down or injur him with a non-lethal shot".
But you don't know if the lights were on or if it was a dark stairway at 230am. You also don't know what interaction took place on those stairs so you can't really judge someone for their actions without all the facts.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
James
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:30PM
Tbone Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> anyone who provid ed the booze to this young man
> is. Get real n wake up.
Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending themselves with a handgun each year is as responsible for the shooting as the man with the gun.
-------------------------------------------------------
> To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> anyone who provid ed the booze to this young man
> is. Get real n wake up.
Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending themselves with a handgun each year is as responsible for the shooting as the man with the gun.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Pain don't hurt
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:31PM
A Realistic View Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Neighbors in my hood Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts
> decades ago.
> > You're the one who had to mention "black".
> > You stated you don't like your neighbors so
> your
> > posting indicates you want the chance.
> > My friends are also my neighbors and if a young
> > teenager came into my home I would calm him
> down
> > and call his parents. I prefer having a beer
> with
> > my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
> > Guns are the very last resort and I hope you
> never
> > have to make that decision. It can ruin a good
> nights sleep.
>
> Black, asian, hispanic... green, orange or purple.
> I cited black
> because there's a black family next door, and we
> don't always get
> along. Does the fact that there's a black family
> in close proximity
> obligate me to establish identity, condition and
> intent should
> I find an intruder, black or otherwise, in my
> home? I hold not.
>
> You seem to feel that teenagers are less capable
> of inflicting
> harm and may just be in the middle of a youthful
> bad decision.
> I would not wait for establishment of such, given
> that the
> hesitation could be a fatal mistake on my part.
> The law backs
> me up. Do what you feel is best for safety of
> your family, and
> I will do likewise.
>
> I agree that guns are a last resort, but need for
> them becomes
> paramount when a threat presents itself. An
> intruder in your home
> is such a threat. I hope I never have to shoot,
> but I hope less
> to ever regret not shooting when my family's
> safety is at risk
> and I had the means to eliminate the threat. In
> the meantime, I
> have strong locks, clearly defined property
> boundaries, and an
> alarm. Once those lines are crossed, the guns are
> the solution
> that moves to the front of the line in dealing
> with those who
> ignore the former.
You paranoid, bro?
The heart is my boundary.
"Love thy neighbor but don't get caught".
Sorry your life is about things.
Are you one of them "preppers"?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Neighbors in my hood Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm not losing. Learned to live with my ghosts
> decades ago.
> > You're the one who had to mention "black".
> > You stated you don't like your neighbors so
> your
> > posting indicates you want the chance.
> > My friends are also my neighbors and if a young
> > teenager came into my home I would calm him
> down
> > and call his parents. I prefer having a beer
> with
> > my neighbors instead of shooting their kids.
> > Guns are the very last resort and I hope you
> never
> > have to make that decision. It can ruin a good
> nights sleep.
>
> Black, asian, hispanic... green, orange or purple.
> I cited black
> because there's a black family next door, and we
> don't always get
> along. Does the fact that there's a black family
> in close proximity
> obligate me to establish identity, condition and
> intent should
> I find an intruder, black or otherwise, in my
> home? I hold not.
>
> You seem to feel that teenagers are less capable
> of inflicting
> harm and may just be in the middle of a youthful
> bad decision.
> I would not wait for establishment of such, given
> that the
> hesitation could be a fatal mistake on my part.
> The law backs
> me up. Do what you feel is best for safety of
> your family, and
> I will do likewise.
>
> I agree that guns are a last resort, but need for
> them becomes
> paramount when a threat presents itself. An
> intruder in your home
> is such a threat. I hope I never have to shoot,
> but I hope less
> to ever regret not shooting when my family's
> safety is at risk
> and I had the means to eliminate the threat. In
> the meantime, I
> have strong locks, clearly defined property
> boundaries, and an
> alarm. Once those lines are crossed, the guns are
> the solution
> that moves to the front of the line in dealing
> with those who
> ignore the former.
You paranoid, bro?
The heart is my boundary.
"Love thy neighbor but don't get caught".
Sorry your life is about things.
Are you one of them "preppers"?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Parrot Says Wut?
()
Date: March 19, 2013 10:39PM
James Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tbone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> > responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> > anyone who provid ed the booze to this young
> man
> > is. Get real n wake up.
>
>
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tbone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> > responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> > anyone who provid ed the booze to this young
> man
> > is. Get real n wake up.
>
>
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Own it; lose it
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:20PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> you forgot 5. whoever own's that house that the
> party was at
Gordo makes a good point. Regardless of what the dead kid's parents feel, the popo are going after the alcohol-available home with gusto. Their troubles are only beginning.
-------------------------------------------------------
> you forgot 5. whoever own's that house that the
> party was at
Gordo makes a good point. Regardless of what the dead kid's parents feel, the popo are going after the alcohol-available home with gusto. Their troubles are only beginning.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
gunphyte
()
Date: March 19, 2013 11:49PM
I had the opportunity to take a "firearms safety" class a few years back. Some points that remain with me today regarding "most people" who suspect an intruder...
who have a firearm and a flashlight in the nightstand will grab the firearm and leave the light behind.
will fire five or more rounds at first, regardless of the target's reaction.
are likely to miss, even if aiming for the chest.
will not turn on the light in their bedroom, but will in the hall and downstairs.
are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.
will feel great remorse as soon as the shooting ends.
who have a firearm and a flashlight in the nightstand will grab the firearm and leave the light behind.
will fire five or more rounds at first, regardless of the target's reaction.
are likely to miss, even if aiming for the chest.
will not turn on the light in their bedroom, but will in the hall and downstairs.
are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.
will feel great remorse as soon as the shooting ends.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Bang Bang
()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:15AM
gunphyte Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I had the opportunity to take a "firearms safety"
> class a few years back. Some points that remain
> with me today regarding "most people" who suspect
> an intruder...
>
> who have a firearm and a flashlight in the
> nightstand will grab the firearm and leave the
> light behind.
>
> will fire five or more rounds at first, regardless
> of the target's reaction.
>
> are likely to miss, even if aiming for the chest.
>
> will not turn on the light in their bedroom, but
> will in the hall and downstairs.
>
> are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an
> unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.
>
> will feel great remorse as soon as the shooting
> ends.
All of the above is true with the exception of:
> are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an
> unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.
Although I know that it's legend and incidents are widely publicized when it happens, the facts are that's a very rare event. All you have to do is to see that is to look at the numbers of accidental shootings (even in total) and who they were shot by (CDC breaks this down or representative samples in their coding) versus the numbers of events involving use of guns by owners. Not even remotely close.
Now far many more relatives are *intentionally* shot by another but that's different matter.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I had the opportunity to take a "firearms safety"
> class a few years back. Some points that remain
> with me today regarding "most people" who suspect
> an intruder...
>
> who have a firearm and a flashlight in the
> nightstand will grab the firearm and leave the
> light behind.
>
> will fire five or more rounds at first, regardless
> of the target's reaction.
>
> are likely to miss, even if aiming for the chest.
>
> will not turn on the light in their bedroom, but
> will in the hall and downstairs.
>
> are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an
> unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.
>
> will feel great remorse as soon as the shooting
> ends.
All of the above is true with the exception of:
> are as likely to shoot a surprising relative as an
> unlawful intruder; adrenalin does that to you.
Although I know that it's legend and incidents are widely publicized when it happens, the facts are that's a very rare event. All you have to do is to see that is to look at the numbers of accidental shootings (even in total) and who they were shot by (CDC breaks this down or representative samples in their coding) versus the numbers of events involving use of guns by owners. Not even remotely close.
Now far many more relatives are *intentionally* shot by another but that's different matter.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Holmer Jackson
()
Date: March 20, 2013 05:33AM
I would like to thank the shooter for doing an excellent job in removing nigger scum from the planet. As soon as we determine your mailing address and the number of rounds expended we will reimburse you for the rounds. Additionally we will be sending you out a $50 gift card with our compliments. You probably have just saved the tax payers a ton of money in future prison costs.
We will handle billing the family of the niglet for the bullets and reimburse you directly.
Attachments:
We will handle billing the family of the niglet for the bullets and reimburse you directly.
Attachments:
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Old McDonald never had a farm.
()
Date: March 20, 2013 06:52AM
Holmer Jackson Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I would like to thank the shooter for doing an
> excellent job in removing nigger scum from the
> planet. As soon as we determine your mailing
> address and the number of rounds expended we will
> reimburse you for the rounds. Additionally we will
> be sending you out a $50 gift card with our
> compliments. You probably have just saved the tax
> payers a ton of money in future prison costs.
>
> We will handle billing the family of the niglet
> for the bullets and reimburse you directly.
How's that job at Hardee's working for you.
When you only offer a $50 gift card you gave yourself away.
America is a great country because we allow morons to voice their opinion.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I would like to thank the shooter for doing an
> excellent job in removing nigger scum from the
> planet. As soon as we determine your mailing
> address and the number of rounds expended we will
> reimburse you for the rounds. Additionally we will
> be sending you out a $50 gift card with our
> compliments. You probably have just saved the tax
> payers a ton of money in future prison costs.
>
> We will handle billing the family of the niglet
> for the bullets and reimburse you directly.
How's that job at Hardee's working for you.
When you only offer a $50 gift card you gave yourself away.
America is a great country because we allow morons to voice their opinion.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Clobbersaurus
()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:33AM
Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal charges coming from this is crazy.
Civil on the other hand.....
Civil on the other hand.....
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
TheNorthman
()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:59AM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against
> the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up
> in NOVA)
>
> [1] Typically deadly force is
> considered justified, and a defense of justifiable
> homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor
> reasonably fears imminent peril of death or
> serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The
> doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked,
> but a set of principles which is incorporated in
> some form in the law of most states. (emphasis mine)
It's always refreshing to see somebody back their opinion up with some research.
That said, how easy will it be to establish the shooter, who by all accounts was an upstanding dude --a fireman at that-- was in serious or grave physical danger?
Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year old, who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got so drunk that he crawled into the wrong home. Embarrassing case of somebody who can't handle their shit but hardly something to get shot over. Seems to be just a really unfortunate death, but it's understandable how in the middle of the night and pitch-black one could mistake an intruder's lack of a response to warning (may well have been drunk to the point of incoherency...after all he was in the wrong house) as an intent to kill or harm.
My guess is he'll walk, but what the fuck do I know.
I have you now.
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> Seriously doubt any charges will be filed against
> the homeowner (unless Sharpton and company show up
> in NOVA)
>
> [1] Typically deadly force is
> considered justified, and a defense of justifiable
> homicide applicable, in cases "when the actor
> reasonably fears imminent peril of death or
> serious bodily harm to himself or another".[1] The
> doctrine is not a defined law that can be invoked,
> but a set of principles which is incorporated in
> some form in the law of most states. (emphasis mine)
It's always refreshing to see somebody back their opinion up with some research.
That said, how easy will it be to establish the shooter, who by all accounts was an upstanding dude --a fireman at that-- was in serious or grave physical danger?
Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year old, who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got so drunk that he crawled into the wrong home. Embarrassing case of somebody who can't handle their shit but hardly something to get shot over. Seems to be just a really unfortunate death, but it's understandable how in the middle of the night and pitch-black one could mistake an intruder's lack of a response to warning (may well have been drunk to the point of incoherency...after all he was in the wrong house) as an intent to kill or harm.
My guess is he'll walk, but what the fuck do I know.
I have you now.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
The thing is
()
Date: March 20, 2013 08:47AM
The homeowner really had no way to know that he was dealing with a drunk 16 year old with no evil intent and friends who were quite likely pulling a deliberate prank on said 16 year old. What if he had been an tweaker with a gun looking for money for his next fix? As the story goes, he yelled at the kid to stop several times and only shot when he got close to his wife and kid.
It easy to say coulda shoulda woulda now that we know the facts, but those facts were not apparent at all at the time of the incident.
It easy to say coulda shoulda woulda now that we know the facts, but those facts were not apparent at all at the time of the incident.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
crap, crap and more crap
()
Date: March 20, 2013 10:50AM
Prove that the shooter "yelled at the kid to stop several times".
Prove that he "only shot when he got close to his wife and kid".
Shut up if you don't know the facts.
Prove that he "only shot when he got close to his wife and kid".
Shut up if you don't know the facts.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
gy
()
Date: March 20, 2013 11:33AM
I'm not a particularly social person, but I would recognize a kid that lived a house away from me, four or five houses away, in fact.
Like somebody said, this dude was probably a "go ahead, punk, make my day" type. He's been waiting for years for such an opportunity to present itself.
Like somebody said, this dude was probably a "go ahead, punk, make my day" type. He's been waiting for years for such an opportunity to present itself.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 20, 2013 11:51AM
James Wrote:
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> >
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.
Im afraid you have lost what's left of your mind. Seek help now!
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> >
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.
Im afraid you have lost what's left of your mind. Seek help now!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
stui
()
Date: March 20, 2013 12:50PM
Can anyone please tell me where the kid was shot? Head, back, chest? If he was shot in the back then we have a problem. When is the medical report coming out to the public?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:04PM
Guess what? The cops are going to release that info when this is still under investigation. The public does not have a right to know every detail in a case like this.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Binary
()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:09PM
James Wrote:
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> Tbone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> > responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> > anyone who provid ed the booze to this young
> man
> > is. Get real n wake up.
>
>
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.
The NRA only uses stats from the FBI and police records. Are you saying the numbers they report are phoney?
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> Tbone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To all you anti gunfucks, the NRA is not
> > responsible for this.The host of the party andb
> > anyone who provid ed the booze to this young
> man
> > is. Get real n wake up.
>
>
>
> Bull shit. The NRA with their phoney
> statistics about 2.5 million Americans defending
> themselves with a handgun each year is as
> responsible for the shooting as the man with the
> gun.
The NRA only uses stats from the FBI and police records. Are you saying the numbers they report are phoney?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
it illegal for him to drink
()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:21PM
Why was he drinking or wasted his only a 16 year old boy or was lol.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:35PM
"I'm not a particularly social person, but I would recognize a kid that lived a house away from me, four or five houses away, in fact."
Oh really? So the fact that almost ever person under the age of 25 wears hooded sweatshirts all the time and that you know nothing about the lighting conditions in the stairwell you can say without a doubt that you would have recognized him?
Oh really? So the fact that almost ever person under the age of 25 wears hooded sweatshirts all the time and that you know nothing about the lighting conditions in the stairwell you can say without a doubt that you would have recognized him?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Bad night for Sterling
()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:56PM
BB*X Wrote:
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> "I'm not a particularly social person, but I would
> recognize a kid that lived a house away from me,
> four or five houses away, in fact."
>
> Oh really? So the fact that almost ever person
> under the age of 25 wears hooded sweatshirts all
> the time and that you know nothing about the
> lighting conditions in the stairwell you can say
> without a doubt that you would have recognized
> him?
The cross dresser is a firefighter. Experience when dealing with early morning dispatches should have taught him to stay calm and evaulate the
situation. A flashlight and knowing his own premise are automatic for a professional. Many other variables were probably involved but shooting the kid two doors down is not one.
Cross dresser took a human life and will be held responsible. This type of situation will be exploited for both gun nuts and anti gunners but the end result
is a child is dead.
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> "I'm not a particularly social person, but I would
> recognize a kid that lived a house away from me,
> four or five houses away, in fact."
>
> Oh really? So the fact that almost ever person
> under the age of 25 wears hooded sweatshirts all
> the time and that you know nothing about the
> lighting conditions in the stairwell you can say
> without a doubt that you would have recognized
> him?
The cross dresser is a firefighter. Experience when dealing with early morning dispatches should have taught him to stay calm and evaulate the
situation. A flashlight and knowing his own premise are automatic for a professional. Many other variables were probably involved but shooting the kid two doors down is not one.
Cross dresser took a human life and will be held responsible. This type of situation will be exploited for both gun nuts and anti gunners but the end result
is a child is dead.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 20, 2013 01:56PM
i take it we havent heard about the status of that window yet, eh?
and yeah........good questions, stui - where was this boy shot?
and yeah........good questions, stui - where was this boy shot?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
ePL4h
()
Date: March 20, 2013 02:17PM
Clobbersaurus Wrote:
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> Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal
> charges coming from this is crazy.
>
> Civil on the other hand.....
it has been established many times that there is no grounds for civil suit - clearly stated in the va law
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> Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal
> charges coming from this is crazy.
>
> Civil on the other hand.....
it has been established many times that there is no grounds for civil suit - clearly stated in the va law
we all already know what we are doing on this thread LoLz
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 20, 2013 02:20PM
ePL4h Wrote:
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> Clobbersaurus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal
> > charges coming from this is crazy.
> >
> > Civil on the other hand.....
>
>
> it has been established many times that there is
> no grounds for civil suit - clearly stated in the
> va law
not to mention the fact that the fam has put out that it forgives the neighbor.
pic unrelated
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> Clobbersaurus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone who thinks that there will be criminal
> > charges coming from this is crazy.
> >
> > Civil on the other hand.....
>
>
> it has been established many times that there is
> no grounds for civil suit - clearly stated in the
> va law
not to mention the fact that the fam has put out that it forgives the neighbor.
pic unrelated
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
wronggg
()
Date: March 20, 2013 02:22PM
Wonder if the young mans' home has a burglar alarm that they actively employ.
Re: we all already know what we are doing on this thread LoLz
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 20, 2013 02:25PM
Forgiving him doesnt prevent some bottom feeding shark lawyer convincing the family to proceed with a civil suit.
He/she will tell them he/she will get them millions just to make them go forward. He/she will sue everyone including the county, the HOA of there is one, and even the company who built the houses claiming it's their fault because the houses are similar.
Believe me, Ive seen how this shit plays out.
He/she will tell them he/she will get them millions just to make them go forward. He/she will sue everyone including the county, the HOA of there is one, and even the company who built the houses claiming it's their fault because the houses are similar.
Believe me, Ive seen how this shit plays out.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Logic
()
Date: March 20, 2013 05:12PM
> Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year old,
> who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got so
> drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity of underage drinking? What other illegal activity can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing? Rape? Murder?
> who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got so
> drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity of underage drinking? What other illegal activity can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing? Rape? Murder?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Glass Houses and the stone
()
Date: March 20, 2013 05:26PM
Logic Wrote:
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> > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> old,
> > who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got
> so
> > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
>
> Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity of
> underage drinking? What other illegal activity
> can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing?
> Rape? Murder?
Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age of 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I can't close the door. How bout you?
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> > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> old,
> > who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got
> so
> > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
>
> Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity of
> underage drinking? What other illegal activity
> can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing?
> Rape? Murder?
Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age of 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I can't close the door. How bout you?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
stui
()
Date: March 20, 2013 06:40PM
Glass Houses and the stone Wrote:
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> Logic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> > old,
> > > who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got
> > so
> > > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
> >
> > Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity
> of
> > underage drinking? What other illegal activity
> > can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing?
> > Rape? Murder?
>
>
> Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age of
> 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I
> can't close the door. How bout you?
Dick Cheney is a dicksucker
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> Logic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> > old,
> > > who also, by all accounts was a good kid, got
> > so
> > > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
> >
> > Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity
> of
> > underage drinking? What other illegal activity
> > can one do and still be a good kid? Stealing?
> > Rape? Murder?
>
>
> Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age of
> 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I
> can't close the door. How bout you?
Dick Cheney is a dicksucker
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
So sad but...
()
Date: March 20, 2013 06:51PM
This young man was so drunk he broke into a home that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen still continued to go to the upstairs level of the home while the family feared for their lives.
The homeowner will live for the rest of his life knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his own.
I blame the kid!
The parents were smart to call out their child for being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen still continued to go to the upstairs level of the home while the family feared for their lives.
The homeowner will live for the rest of his life knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his own.
I blame the kid!
The parents were smart to call out their child for being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Enquiring minds want to know
()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:37PM
stui Wrote:
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> Glass Houses and the stone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Logic Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> > > old,
> > > > who also, by all accounts was a good kid,
> got
> > > so
> > > > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
> > >
> > > Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity
> > of
> > > underage drinking? What other illegal
> activity
> > > can one do and still be a good kid?
> Stealing?
> > > Rape? Murder?
> >
> >
> > Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age
> of
> > 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I
> > can't close the door. How bout you?
>
>
> Dick Cheney is a dicksucker
Personal knowledge or just being liable?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Glass Houses and the stone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Logic Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > > Seems to me, what we have here is a 16 year
> > > old,
> > > > who also, by all accounts was a good kid,
> got
> > > so
> > > > drunk that he crawled into the wrong home.
> > >
> > > Good kid and engaging in the illegal activity
> > of
> > > underage drinking? What other illegal
> activity
> > > can one do and still be a good kid?
> Stealing?
> > > Rape? Murder?
> >
> >
> > Dick Cheney received two dui's before the age
> of
> > 21. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. I
> > can't close the door. How bout you?
>
>
> Dick Cheney is a dicksucker
Personal knowledge or just being liable?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 20, 2013 07:45PM
So sad but... Wrote:
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> This young man was so drunk he broke into a home
> that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to give her the fifty cents? or did you just not bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing how all this went down?
>
> The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> still continued to go to the upstairs level of the
> home while the family feared for their lives.
>
alarm system blaring? what crack have you been smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
> The homeowner will live for the rest of his life
> knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> own.
>
o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down between child and homeowner now, eh?
> I blame the kid!
>
of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you ............. LoLz
> The parents were smart to call out their child for
> being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt shove the coat hanger in far enough :(
-------------------------------------------------------
> This young man was so drunk he broke into a home
> that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to give her the fifty cents? or did you just not bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing how all this went down?
>
> The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> still continued to go to the upstairs level of the
> home while the family feared for their lives.
>
alarm system blaring? what crack have you been smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
> The homeowner will live for the rest of his life
> knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> own.
>
o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down between child and homeowner now, eh?
> I blame the kid!
>
of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you ............. LoLz
> The parents were smart to call out their child for
> being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt shove the coat hanger in far enough :(
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
n3KVh
()
Date: March 20, 2013 08:06PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> So sad but... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This young man was so drunk he broke into a
> home
> > that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
>
>
> he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his
> friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look
> similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin
> that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when
> they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to
> give her the fifty cents? or did you just not
> bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing
> how all this went down?
> >
> > The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> > still continued to go to the upstairs level of
> the
> > home while the family feared for their lives.
> >
>
> alarm system blaring? what crack have you been
> smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
>
>
> > The homeowner will live for the rest of his
> life
> > knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> > own.
> >
>
> o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down
> between child and homeowner now, eh?
>
>
> > I blame the kid!
> >
>
> of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you
> ............. LoLz
>
>
> > The parents were smart to call out their child
> for
> > being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
>
> yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt
> shove the coat hanger in far enough :(
Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll Gordon BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
.
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> So sad but... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This young man was so drunk he broke into a
> home
> > that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
>
>
> he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his
> friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look
> similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin
> that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when
> they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to
> give her the fifty cents? or did you just not
> bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing
> how all this went down?
> >
> > The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> > still continued to go to the upstairs level of
> the
> > home while the family feared for their lives.
> >
>
> alarm system blaring? what crack have you been
> smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
>
>
> > The homeowner will live for the rest of his
> life
> > knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> > own.
> >
>
> o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down
> between child and homeowner now, eh?
>
>
> > I blame the kid!
> >
>
> of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you
> ............. LoLz
>
>
> > The parents were smart to call out their child
> for
> > being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
>
> yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt
> shove the coat hanger in far enough :(
Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll Gordon BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
.
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Don't let it run, come!,,
()
Date: March 21, 2013 07:11AM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> So sad but... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This young man was so drunk he broke into a
> home
> > that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
>
>
> he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his
> friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look
> similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin
> that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when
> they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to
> give her the fifty cents? or did you just not
> bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing
> how all this went down?
> >
> > The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> > still continued to go to the upstairs level of
> the
> > home while the family feared for their lives.
> >
>
> alarm system blaring? what crack have you been
> smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
>
>
> > The homeowner will live for the rest of his
> life
> > knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> > own.
> >
>
> o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down
> between child and homeowner now, eh?
>
>
> > I blame the kid!
> >
>
> of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you
> ............. LoLz
>
>
> > The parents were smart to call out their child
> for
> > being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
>
> yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt
> shove the coat hanger in far enough :(
As a true American entrepreneur I have been waiting for "Roe versus Wade" to be reversed. Been saving and storing coat hangers for the last 24 years.
Abortions and/or lobotomies are the future in healthcare and I'll be on the ground floor. I was thinking Manassas would be the appropriate starting point.
A two for one special during Grand Opening. Hopefully soon cause some of the hangers are starting to deteriorate.
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> So sad but... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This young man was so drunk he broke into a
> home
> > that looked nothing like his. How drunk was he?
>
>
> he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his
> friends dumped him off. And yeah, the houses look
> similar. What? Did yr moms throw away the napkin
> that she wiped yr brains off her leg with when
> they leaked out of her when yr dad pulled out to
> give her the fifty cents? or did you just not
> bother to read the ba-jillion articles detailing
> how all this went down?
> >
> > The alarm system was blaring but the drunk teen
> > still continued to go to the upstairs level of
> the
> > home while the family feared for their lives.
> >
>
> alarm system blaring? what crack have you been
> smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?
>
>
> > The homeowner will live for the rest of his
> life
> > knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> > own.
> >
>
> o rly? you know the EXACT convo that went down
> between child and homeowner now, eh?
>
>
> > I blame the kid!
> >
>
> of course you do.........you tough, brave, guy you
> ............. LoLz
>
>
> > The parents were smart to call out their child
> for
> > being stupid. They forgave the shooter.
>
> yours apparently werent that smart - they didnt
> shove the coat hanger in far enough :(
As a true American entrepreneur I have been waiting for "Roe versus Wade" to be reversed. Been saving and storing coat hangers for the last 24 years.
Abortions and/or lobotomies are the future in healthcare and I'll be on the ground floor. I was thinking Manassas would be the appropriate starting point.
A two for one special during Grand Opening. Hopefully soon cause some of the hangers are starting to deteriorate.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 21, 2013 07:40AM
>
>
> Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll Gordon
> BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
>
you understand that we we all know why you spend so much time
a) in love with on me
b) trying to get my attention
c) making original gifs for me
..........right? LoLz
pic unrelated
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>
> Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll Gordon
> BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
>
you understand that we we all know why you spend so much time
a) in love with on me
b) trying to get my attention
c) making original gifs for me
..........right? LoLz
pic unrelated
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Qwest
()
Date: March 21, 2013 08:34AM
I can't believe the number of people here that have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30 in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person in the house to then calmly recognize the person, fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends and his family could have done hours before the shooting any one of which would have stopped this.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Cool, calm and freaky.
()
Date: March 21, 2013 08:50AM
Qwest Wrote:
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> I can't believe the number of people here that
> have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30
> in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person
> in the house to then calmly recognize the person,
> fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't
> acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends
> and his family could have done hours before the
> shooting any one of which would have stopped this.
Very simple. If you are a cross dressing panty wearing nervous wreck you should't have a gun. He is a firefighter so nighttime situations are second nature to a professional.
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> I can't believe the number of people here that
> have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30
> in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person
> in the house to then calmly recognize the person,
> fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't
> acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends
> and his family could have done hours before the
> shooting any one of which would have stopped this.
Very simple. If you are a cross dressing panty wearing nervous wreck you should't have a gun. He is a firefighter so nighttime situations are second nature to a professional.
fair enough.................
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 21, 2013 08:59AM
Qwest Wrote:
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> I can't believe the number of people here that
> have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30
> in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person
> in the house to then calmly recognize the person,
> fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't
> acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends
> and his family could have done hours before the
> shooting any one of which would have stopped this.
ha ha ah ha ha
+1
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> I can't believe the number of people here that
> have the expectation that someone woken up @ 2:30
> in the morning with an alarm blaring and a person
> in the house to then calmly recognize the person,
> fire a non-fatal shot, etc. But then don't
> acknowlege the dozen things the kid, his friends
> and his family could have done hours before the
> shooting any one of which would have stopped this.
ha ha ah ha ha
+1
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:07AM
"he didnt do it - he was too drunk too. his friends dumped him off."
I don't know what you mean by dumped him off. His friend climbed a fence with him and gave him a boost to climb in a window. At this point he was now in the wrong house climbing the stairs so I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that "he didn't do it"
"alarm system blaring? what crack have you been smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?"
Imaginary alarm??? It cleary states in all accounts that the homeowner heard his house alarm go off.
"He is a firefighter so nighttime situations are second nature to a professional."
Right, he's a volunteer firefighter so that means he is trained in the use of firearms in highly stressful situations that occur in the middle of the night. If this story was about how he awoke to a fire coming in his back window at 230am then I would agree that his reaction would be second nature.
I don't know what you mean by dumped him off. His friend climbed a fence with him and gave him a boost to climb in a window. At this point he was now in the wrong house climbing the stairs so I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that "he didn't do it"
"alarm system blaring? what crack have you been smoking to hear some imaginary alarm go off?"
Imaginary alarm??? It cleary states in all accounts that the homeowner heard his house alarm go off.
"He is a firefighter so nighttime situations are second nature to a professional."
Right, he's a volunteer firefighter so that means he is trained in the use of firearms in highly stressful situations that occur in the middle of the night. If this story was about how he awoke to a fire coming in his back window at 230am then I would agree that his reaction would be second nature.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
guns carry responsibility
()
Date: March 21, 2013 10:51AM
If you own a gun, make DAMN SURE that someone is intending to harm you before you kill them.
If a teenager got up for a drink of water, opened the window to get some air and had deadphones on, they too would have been blown away by RAMBO.
The guy needs to own his mistake.
Plus, if he is, violent toward women, I hope he goes to hell.
If a teenager got up for a drink of water, opened the window to get some air and had deadphones on, they too would have been blown away by RAMBO.
The guy needs to own his mistake.
Plus, if he is, violent toward women, I hope he goes to hell.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
wronggg
()
Date: March 21, 2013 01:12PM
guns, how would YOU define if someone means you harm? I would think someone in my home at 0 dark thirty continuing to advance through the house while an alarm is sounding meets the definition. As for the rest of your post, either you don't understand what happened or you have been hitting the pipe.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
wronggg
()
Date: March 21, 2013 01:12PM
guns, how would YOU define if someone means you harm? I would think someone in my home at 0 dark thirty continuing to advance through the house while an alarm is sounding meets the definition. As for the rest of your post, either you don't understand what happened or you have been hitting the pipe.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
hbEuU
()
Date: March 21, 2013 02:20PM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll
> Gordon
> > BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
> >
> you understand that we we all know why you spend
> so much time
>
> a) in love with on me
> b) trying to get my attention
> c) making original gifs for me
>
> ..........right? LoLz
>
>
> pic unrelated
No Gordon - per usual - you're wrong. You're whining like an abused girlfriend. "He beats me because he cares." What "we we all know" is that you're a first class asshole and troll who's posts run about 50/1 garbage and bullshit. That's what "we we all know". The self hatred you've exhibited here tells us all that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.
LoLz.......
.
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> >
> >
> > Oh, another witless brainfart by the troll
> Gordon
> > BLVD. Yawn. LoLzzzzzzzzzzz.
> >
> you understand that we we all know why you spend
> so much time
>
> a) in love with on me
> b) trying to get my attention
> c) making original gifs for me
>
> ..........right? LoLz
>
>
> pic unrelated
No Gordon - per usual - you're wrong. You're whining like an abused girlfriend. "He beats me because he cares." What "we we all know" is that you're a first class asshole and troll who's posts run about 50/1 garbage and bullshit. That's what "we we all know". The self hatred you've exhibited here tells us all that your brain is broken. Get it fixed.
LoLz.......
.
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Taint
()
Date: March 21, 2013 04:06PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 21, 2013
Contact: Liz Mills, Director of Media Relations and Communications, 571-251-5568 (mobile)
Liz.mills@loudoun.gov
Update on Fatal Shooting on Pullman Court
Loudoun County, VA- The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office continues to investigate a shooting that occurred during the early morning hours of March 17th. Loudoun County Sheriff’s Deputies had been dispatched to the home in the 45900 block of Pullman Court for a report of a burglary with shots fired by the homeowner.
At this point in the investigation, it appears Caleb A. Gordley, 16, of Sterling, Virginia, mistakenly entered a neighbor’s residence on Pullman Court through a rear, unlocked window. There is no evidence to indicate Caleb entered the home with any further criminal intent. The 16-year-old Park View High School student lived on the same street as the home. Based on interviews, it was learned Caleb had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening.
The shooting took place shortly after 2:30AM Sunday when a resident reported that their house alarm was activated. As the homeowner went to investigate, he discovered an unknown male inside their home.
The homeowner reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner discharged his firearm several times. The teenager was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents of the house were located. The teenager lost his life at the scene.
At this point, it appears that the firearm used, a .40 caliber pistol, was legally owned. Several shell casings and rounds were recovered at the scene.
While the issue of these minors obtaining alcohol is separate from the actual shooting, the Sheriff’s Office is continuing to investigate the circumstances surrounding how it was obtained.
On Wednesday, Loudoun County Sheriff’s Detectives met with members of Caleb’s family to update them on the latest findings in the case and to detail the circumstances surrounding the incident. The homeowner and Caleb’s family remain cooperative in the investigation.
The case remains open pending a final report from the Medical Examiner’s Office, to include a toxicology report. The results of the investigation are being reviewed by the Office of the Loudoun County Commonwealth’s Attorney, but no final determination will be made until all the information has been received.
March 21, 2013
Contact: Liz Mills, Director of Media Relations and Communications, 571-251-5568 (mobile)
Liz.mills@loudoun.gov
Update on Fatal Shooting on Pullman Court
Loudoun County, VA- The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office continues to investigate a shooting that occurred during the early morning hours of March 17th. Loudoun County Sheriff’s Deputies had been dispatched to the home in the 45900 block of Pullman Court for a report of a burglary with shots fired by the homeowner.
At this point in the investigation, it appears Caleb A. Gordley, 16, of Sterling, Virginia, mistakenly entered a neighbor’s residence on Pullman Court through a rear, unlocked window. There is no evidence to indicate Caleb entered the home with any further criminal intent. The 16-year-old Park View High School student lived on the same street as the home. Based on interviews, it was learned Caleb had been drinking alcohol with friends that evening.
The shooting took place shortly after 2:30AM Sunday when a resident reported that their house alarm was activated. As the homeowner went to investigate, he discovered an unknown male inside their home.
The homeowner reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner discharged his firearm several times. The teenager was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents of the house were located. The teenager lost his life at the scene.
At this point, it appears that the firearm used, a .40 caliber pistol, was legally owned. Several shell casings and rounds were recovered at the scene.
While the issue of these minors obtaining alcohol is separate from the actual shooting, the Sheriff’s Office is continuing to investigate the circumstances surrounding how it was obtained.
On Wednesday, Loudoun County Sheriff’s Detectives met with members of Caleb’s family to update them on the latest findings in the case and to detail the circumstances surrounding the incident. The homeowner and Caleb’s family remain cooperative in the investigation.
The case remains open pending a final report from the Medical Examiner’s Office, to include a toxicology report. The results of the investigation are being reviewed by the Office of the Loudoun County Commonwealth’s Attorney, but no final determination will be made until all the information has been received.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
You're a bunch of morons
()
Date: March 21, 2013 05:24PM
#1- he has a 16 year old daughter. If she was in the house or not, he is responsible for her protection as her father. GO DAD! I'm curious what'd you'd be saying if this drunk kid snuck in quietly and raped his daughter. I doubt with a child the same age he's out congratulating himself though.
#2 those "cross-dressing" comments stem from his divorce to AMY (daughter's mom) when she was trying to find a way to deny custody. The bitches who wrote those are a bunch of fat skanks who performed in the rocky horror picture show with Amy. His ex was..sorry, is a whore and any and all comment to that effect stem from her inability to be a human being. Mind you, her next hubby played a cross-dressing freak onstage.
He did the everything right, except the warning shot, he shoulda shot first, warned later, since it obviously didn't work anyway! But, hey even the kids parents don't blame him! Doesn't that speak volumes?! He took out a worthless loser (who for all any of you know) intened to go after his child that night. Don't be stupid, you won't get shot in your neighbors house. It's simple.
#2 those "cross-dressing" comments stem from his divorce to AMY (daughter's mom) when she was trying to find a way to deny custody. The bitches who wrote those are a bunch of fat skanks who performed in the rocky horror picture show with Amy. His ex was..sorry, is a whore and any and all comment to that effect stem from her inability to be a human being. Mind you, her next hubby played a cross-dressing freak onstage.
He did the everything right, except the warning shot, he shoulda shot first, warned later, since it obviously didn't work anyway! But, hey even the kids parents don't blame him! Doesn't that speak volumes?! He took out a worthless loser (who for all any of you know) intened to go after his child that night. Don't be stupid, you won't get shot in your neighbors house. It's simple.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
shot in the back
()
Date: March 21, 2013 05:55PM
What a coward.
Yep, the kid was a real threat to him.
How many shots were fired?
How does a shot in the shoulder kill someone?
I bet his daughter hates him.
Yep, the kid was a real threat to him.
How many shots were fired?
How does a shot in the shoulder kill someone?
I bet his daughter hates him.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Johnny Galt
()
Date: March 21, 2013 05:59PM
The guy is a hero. You enter someone's house without invitation you are asking to get shot. The law is crystal clear.
The results of the facts of this case are proof-positive. The cry-babies can whine all they want, but they sure as fuck won't enter someone's house illegally despite their hypcrotical protestations then or now here on this web log.
ps. I love my guns.
The results of the facts of this case are proof-positive. The cry-babies can whine all they want, but they sure as fuck won't enter someone's house illegally despite their hypcrotical protestations then or now here on this web log.
ps. I love my guns.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Wilson = :<{
()
Date: March 21, 2013 06:13PM
Johnny Galt Wrote:
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> The guy is a hero. You enter someone's house
> without invitation you are asking to get shot. The
> law is crystal clear.
>
> The results of the facts of this case are
> proof-positive. The cry-babies can whine all they
> want, but they sure as fuck won't enter someone's
> house illegally despite their hypcrotical
> protestations then or now here on this web log.
>
> ps. I love my guns.
When your guns are the only thing you have in life.
You gotta love something.
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> The guy is a hero. You enter someone's house
> without invitation you are asking to get shot. The
> law is crystal clear.
>
> The results of the facts of this case are
> proof-positive. The cry-babies can whine all they
> want, but they sure as fuck won't enter someone's
> house illegally despite their hypcrotical
> protestations then or now here on this web log.
>
> ps. I love my guns.
When your guns are the only thing you have in life.
You gotta love something.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
stui
()
Date: March 21, 2013 06:20PM
Shot in the left rear shoulder means he was basically shot in the back. How does a 40 caliber kill someone in the left rear shoulder? It had to have been upper spinal cord area where the bullet pierced through vital arteries. Left rear shoulder doesnt smell right.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 21, 2013 06:35PM
HERO!
End of story...............
End of story...............
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Taint
()
Date: March 21, 2013 06:38PM
> Shot in the left rear shoulder means he was basically shot in the back. How does a 40 caliber kill someone in the left rear shoulder? It had to have been upper spinal cord area where the bullet pierced through vital arteries. Left rear shoulder doesnt smell right.
Sure Quincy.
Lets see how long you survive with your subclavian artery severed.
Sure Quincy.
Lets see how long you survive with your subclavian artery severed.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
fairfaxian
()
Date: March 21, 2013 07:28PM
Puddin Taint Wrote:
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> While the issue of these minors obtaining alcohol
> is separate from the actual shooting, the
> Sheriff’s Office is continuing to investigate
> the circumstances surrounding how it was
> obtained.
Now I guess they'll get down to the causes. The alcohol issue isn't unrelated to the shooting, its abuse obviously led this individual to do what he did. The fact that he ended up shot dead in a stranger's house was a consequence, not the cause.
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> While the issue of these minors obtaining alcohol
> is separate from the actual shooting, the
> Sheriff’s Office is continuing to investigate
> the circumstances surrounding how it was
> obtained.
Now I guess they'll get down to the causes. The alcohol issue isn't unrelated to the shooting, its abuse obviously led this individual to do what he did. The fact that he ended up shot dead in a stranger's house was a consequence, not the cause.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
not good enough
()
Date: March 21, 2013 07:28PM
The public deserves more.
When will they release the 911 tape?
When will they release the 911 tape?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
doesnt make sense
()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:03PM
The kid passed him in the hallway?
Sounds like the guy was hiding somewhere.
Too bad the dead cant speak.
Sounds like the guy was hiding somewhere.
Too bad the dead cant speak.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Voice O' Reason
()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:10PM
I'm definitely in favor of strong gun control policies and I'm dissapointed that gun violence has taken yet another young life... but if you break into to someone else's house -intoxicated or not- at two in the morning you're begging to get hurt.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
The rest of the story?
()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:26PM
So sad but... Wrote:
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>
> The homeowner will live for the rest of his life
> knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> own.
>
Who cleans up the blood in a situation such as this?
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>
> The homeowner will live for the rest of his life
> knowing he killed someone thru NO fault of his
> own.
>
Who cleans up the blood in a situation such as this?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 21, 2013 09:33PM
The rest of the story? Wrote:
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> > Who cleans up the blood in a situation such as
> this?
Homeowners insurance usually
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> > Who cleans up the blood in a situation such as
> this?
Homeowners insurance usually
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
snowdenscold
()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:02PM
I don't understand all the people who are reading this story anachronistically. Sure we know now that there was no criminal intent and that he was in the wrong house, but why would you force that knowledge upon the homeowner during the events in question?
Of all the home break-ins, how many involve criminal intent, and how many are pure accidents? A million to one? Must be easy to write from the comfort and security of your keyboard how you would have reacted calmly, dispassionately, and with the safety of the intruder as your first priority.
To ignore an alarm system and warning shots makes this an open and shut, albeit tragic, case.
Of all the home break-ins, how many involve criminal intent, and how many are pure accidents? A million to one? Must be easy to write from the comfort and security of your keyboard how you would have reacted calmly, dispassionately, and with the safety of the intruder as your first priority.
To ignore an alarm system and warning shots makes this an open and shut, albeit tragic, case.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
James
()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:08PM
snowdenscold Wrote:
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> I don't understand all the people who are reading
> this story anachronistically. Sure we know
> now that there was no criminal intent and
> that he was in the wrong house, but why would you
> force that knowledge upon the homeowner during the
> events in question?
>
> Of all the home break-ins, how many involve
> criminal intent, and how many are pure accidents?
> A million to one? Must be easy to write from the
> comfort and security of your keyboard how you
> would have reacted calmly, dispassionately, and
> with the safety of the intruder as your first
> priority.
>
> To ignore an alarm system and warning shots
> makes this an open and shut, albeit tragic, case.
Its not a "million to one". You never hear about the ones that do happen unless someone is shot. On a typical weekend night some drunk tries to get into someone else's house in just about every large city/county/town.
The boy was so drunk and/or high on PCP that he did not hear any alarm ringing or aware that a shot was fired.
What will be revealed is that his friends basically poured him into the wrong house through the window. It will all be revealed when the investigation is done.
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> I don't understand all the people who are reading
> this story anachronistically. Sure we know
> now that there was no criminal intent and
> that he was in the wrong house, but why would you
> force that knowledge upon the homeowner during the
> events in question?
>
> Of all the home break-ins, how many involve
> criminal intent, and how many are pure accidents?
> A million to one? Must be easy to write from the
> comfort and security of your keyboard how you
> would have reacted calmly, dispassionately, and
> with the safety of the intruder as your first
> priority.
>
> To ignore an alarm system and warning shots
> makes this an open and shut, albeit tragic, case.
Its not a "million to one". You never hear about the ones that do happen unless someone is shot. On a typical weekend night some drunk tries to get into someone else's house in just about every large city/county/town.
The boy was so drunk and/or high on PCP that he did not hear any alarm ringing or aware that a shot was fired.
What will be revealed is that his friends basically poured him into the wrong house through the window. It will all be revealed when the investigation is done.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
misinformation
()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:24PM
Dirty Harry will say whatever he needs to say to avoid charges.
who can verify this warning shot? nobody. It is illogical to think that the kid ignored it.
This guy was hiding and shot at him several times.
who can verify this warning shot? nobody. It is illogical to think that the kid ignored it.
This guy was hiding and shot at him several times.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Tyrone Jackson
()
Date: March 21, 2013 11:36PM
Justice will be done. Black power, black power. Fuck you honkies.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Please..
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:26AM
Hey Tyrone, please jump through some white guy's window tonight and tell him that in person :)
And I believe black power lost this time.
Honky 1
Black Power 0
@misinformation-were you there? Do you have the full police report? Were you on the phone with the 911 operator? Exactly what information do you have? I'm guessing none, so, please, follow Tyrone's lead tongiht and let's make it; Honkies 3 DUmbasses 0
And I believe black power lost this time.
Honky 1
Black Power 0
@misinformation-were you there? Do you have the full police report? Were you on the phone with the 911 operator? Exactly what information do you have? I'm guessing none, so, please, follow Tyrone's lead tongiht and let's make it; Honkies 3 DUmbasses 0
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Cigarette lighter 1916
()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:35AM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> HERO!
>
> End of story...............
Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots a kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward would call this wannabe a hero.
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> HERO!
>
> End of story...............
Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots a kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward would call this wannabe a hero.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Another Fine American
()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:03AM
Cigarette lighter 1916 Wrote:
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> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > HERO!
> >
> > End of story...............
>
> Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots a
> kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward
> would call this wannabe a hero.
Mr. Donald West Wilder II is a true American HERO! Any gentleman who is willing to get out of bed when house alarm sounds, remove his .40 caliper Glock and confront a inebriated 16 year old black boy who is disoriented and shoot him should be awarded a national defense medal. We need more heros like Mr. Wilder II
to protect homes,property and second marriages from these heathen misguided teenagers that every generation since the beginning of time has encountered.
Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid away when you could of pushed him back down the steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in Sterling Virginia.
You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the word. Saving lives one night and destroying them the next.
I'm proud of you, Sir
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> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > HERO!
> >
> > End of story...............
>
> Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots a
> kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward
> would call this wannabe a hero.
Mr. Donald West Wilder II is a true American HERO! Any gentleman who is willing to get out of bed when house alarm sounds, remove his .40 caliper Glock and confront a inebriated 16 year old black boy who is disoriented and shoot him should be awarded a national defense medal. We need more heros like Mr. Wilder II
to protect homes,property and second marriages from these heathen misguided teenagers that every generation since the beginning of time has encountered.
Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid away when you could of pushed him back down the steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in Sterling Virginia.
You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the word. Saving lives one night and destroying them the next.
I'm proud of you, Sir
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:26AM
I guess it's all about how you interpret the info. I read that he grabbed his gun and went to investigate, at this point he encounters someone coming up the stairs, he warns the person to leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning shot, person keeps coming and he is backing away while still warning him. The new info the realeased says the intruder passed him and headed for the room where his family was.
I interpret that to mean that as he was confronting this person on the stairs he fired a warning shot and he moved back away from the stairs and down the other side of the hallway, kid comes to top of stairs and turns right/left (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as he was backing away), at this point the intruder is now advancing towards the room wher his family is and he is on the other side of the hallway and shoots before the intruder can get to that bedroom.
The point is that none of where there and you can play it out in your head all you want but we just don't know enough to really judge him. I sure hope you never get called for jury duty, you people probably think it is your "duty" to vote guilty.
I interpret that to mean that as he was confronting this person on the stairs he fired a warning shot and he moved back away from the stairs and down the other side of the hallway, kid comes to top of stairs and turns right/left (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as he was backing away), at this point the intruder is now advancing towards the room wher his family is and he is on the other side of the hallway and shoots before the intruder can get to that bedroom.
The point is that none of where there and you can play it out in your head all you want but we just don't know enough to really judge him. I sure hope you never get called for jury duty, you people probably think it is your "duty" to vote guilty.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:27AM
The point is that none of us* where there....
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Beaver Cleaver
()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:55AM
Assuming the kid (intruder) is drunk and thinks its his own house, the story outlined makes reasonably good sense. The kid is insistent on getting upstairs to find and help protect his family. Same with the homeowne trying to stop him. Only question is why doesn't the kid yell something like "dad", "mom", to help the homeowner understand this might not actually be a life-threatening break-in, but then again the kid is too drunk to understand this is not his own home (from his time outside the home, to his breaking-in, and then to his heading up the stairs even after a warning shot).
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:56AM
BB*X Wrote:
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> I guess it's all about how you interpret the info.
> I read that he grabbed his gun and went to
> investigate, at this point he encounters someone
> coming up the stairs, he warns the person to
> leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning shot,
> person keeps coming and he is backing away while
> still warning him. The new info the realeased
> says the intruder passed him and headed for the
> room where his family was.
>
> I interpret that to mean that as he was
> confronting this person on the stairs he fired a
> warning shot and he moved back away from the
> stairs and down the other side of the hallway, kid
> comes to top of stairs and turns right/left
> (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as he
> was backing away), at this point the intruder is
> now advancing towards the room wher his family is
> and he is on the other side of the hallway and
> shoots before the intruder can get to that
> bedroom.
>
> The point is that none of where there and you can
> play it out in your head all you want but we just
> don't know enough to really judge him. I sure
> hope you never get called for jury duty, you
> people probably think it is your "duty" to vote
> guilty.
so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the back now? o_0
-------------------------------------------------------
> I guess it's all about how you interpret the info.
> I read that he grabbed his gun and went to
> investigate, at this point he encounters someone
> coming up the stairs, he warns the person to
> leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning shot,
> person keeps coming and he is backing away while
> still warning him. The new info the realeased
> says the intruder passed him and headed for the
> room where his family was.
>
> I interpret that to mean that as he was
> confronting this person on the stairs he fired a
> warning shot and he moved back away from the
> stairs and down the other side of the hallway, kid
> comes to top of stairs and turns right/left
> (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as he
> was backing away), at this point the intruder is
> now advancing towards the room wher his family is
> and he is on the other side of the hallway and
> shoots before the intruder can get to that
> bedroom.
>
> The point is that none of where there and you can
> play it out in your head all you want but we just
> don't know enough to really judge him. I sure
> hope you never get called for jury duty, you
> people probably think it is your "duty" to vote
> guilty.
so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the back now? o_0
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
On the cover of the
()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:03AM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> BB*X Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess it's all about how you interpret the
> info.
> > I read that he grabbed his gun and went to
> > investigate, at this point he encounters
> someone
> > coming up the stairs, he warns the person to
> > leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning
> shot,
> > person keeps coming and he is backing away
> while
> > still warning him. The new info the realeased
> > says the intruder passed him and headed for the
> > room where his family was.
> >
> > I interpret that to mean that as he was
> > confronting this person on the stairs he fired
> a
> > warning shot and he moved back away from the
> > stairs and down the other side of the hallway,
> kid
> > comes to top of stairs and turns right/left
> > (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as
> he
> > was backing away), at this point the
> intruder is
> > now advancing towards the room wher his family
> is
> > and he is on the other side of the hallway and
> > shoots before the intruder can get to that
> > bedroom.
> >
> > The point is that none of where there and you
> can
> > play it out in your head all you want but we
> just
> > don't know enough to really judge him. I sure
> > hope you never get called for jury duty, you
> > people probably think it is your "duty" to vote
> > guilty.
>
>
> so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the
> back now? o_0
Shot in the back? Oh boy, he should get the cover of American Guns.
-------------------------------------------------------
> BB*X Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess it's all about how you interpret the
> info.
> > I read that he grabbed his gun and went to
> > investigate, at this point he encounters
> someone
> > coming up the stairs, he warns the person to
> > leave, they keep coming, he fires a warning
> shot,
> > person keeps coming and he is backing away
> while
> > still warning him. The new info the realeased
> > says the intruder passed him and headed for the
> > room where his family was.
> >
> > I interpret that to mean that as he was
> > confronting this person on the stairs he fired
> a
> > warning shot and he moved back away from the
> > stairs and down the other side of the hallway,
> kid
> > comes to top of stairs and turns right/left
> > (opposite the side the homeowner tunred to as
> he
> > was backing away), at this point the
> intruder is
> > now advancing towards the room wher his family
> is
> > and he is on the other side of the hallway and
> > shoots before the intruder can get to that
> > bedroom.
> >
> > The point is that none of where there and you
> can
> > play it out in your head all you want but we
> just
> > don't know enough to really judge him. I sure
> > hope you never get called for jury duty, you
> > people probably think it is your "duty" to vote
> > guilty.
>
>
> so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the
> back now? o_0
Shot in the back? Oh boy, he should get the cover of American Guns.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:34AM
Another Fine American Wrote:
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> > Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid
> away when you could of pushed him back down the
> steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose
> the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in
> Sterling Virginia.
> You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the
> word. Saving lives one night and destroying them
> the next.
> I'm proud of you, Sir
So, lets say he did push the kid down the stairs. Kid breaks neck and dies. Would you still award Mr Wilder his medal? The kid is just as dead.
-------------------------------------------------------
> > Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid
> away when you could of pushed him back down the
> steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose
> the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in
> Sterling Virginia.
> You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the
> word. Saving lives one night and destroying them
> the next.
> I'm proud of you, Sir
So, lets say he did push the kid down the stairs. Kid breaks neck and dies. Would you still award Mr Wilder his medal? The kid is just as dead.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
"Give me three steps, mister"
()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:38AM
Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The second is junior and every other kid in America is named after his father. I'm a fourth and not that pretentious.
A volunteer fire fighter? Probably helped with wed. nite tango.
.40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus mentality.
You don't fire warning shots in your house with a .40
Second wife? I'm old fashioned and don't believe in getting married to be hip.
Get it right the first time or just have fun.
This guy is a joke if he couldn't knock a sixteen year old neighbor down the fucking steps.
Unless he is a bullshitter.
A volunteer fire fighter? Probably helped with wed. nite tango.
.40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus mentality.
You don't fire warning shots in your house with a .40
Second wife? I'm old fashioned and don't believe in getting married to be hip.
Get it right the first time or just have fun.
This guy is a joke if he couldn't knock a sixteen year old neighbor down the fucking steps.
Unless he is a bullshitter.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Once Again
()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:50AM
Taxpayers: 1; Future Convicts/Thugs/Lib Leeches on Society: 0
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 22, 2013 09:26AM
"so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the back now? o_0"
From the latest info released - "The homeowner reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner discharged his firearm several times. The teenager was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents of the house were located."
You can't shoot someone in the back as they retreat. In this case he wasn't retreating, he was headed towards the room where the rest of the family was. I understand he is no longer a direct threat to the homeowner but at that point he became a threat to the rest of the family.
".40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus mentality.
You don't fire warning shots in your house with a .40"
First of all the make of the gun has not been released, someone just posted a Glock logo in this thread. Second, who says you don't fire a warning shot with a .40 caliber? Do you fire a warning shot with a .45, maybe a .22, what's your basis for this comment? If all occupants of the house are upstairs and you fire a round into the stairs what is that going to harm? I don't know where he fired the warning shot so the stairs are just an example.
From the latest info released - "The homeowner reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner discharged his firearm several times. The teenager was struck once in the left rear shoulder after passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents of the house were located."
You can't shoot someone in the back as they retreat. In this case he wasn't retreating, he was headed towards the room where the rest of the family was. I understand he is no longer a direct threat to the homeowner but at that point he became a threat to the rest of the family.
".40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus mentality.
You don't fire warning shots in your house with a .40"
First of all the make of the gun has not been released, someone just posted a Glock logo in this thread. Second, who says you don't fire a warning shot with a .40 caliber? Do you fire a warning shot with a .45, maybe a .22, what's your basis for this comment? If all occupants of the house are upstairs and you fire a round into the stairs what is that going to harm? I don't know where he fired the warning shot so the stairs are just an example.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
TangSoo
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:05AM
BB*X Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the
> back now? o_0"
>
> From the latest info released - "The homeowner
> reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the
> firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up
> the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner
> discharged his firearm several times. The teenager
> was struck once in the left rear shoulder after
> passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking
> towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents
> of the house were located."
>
>
> You can't shoot someone in the back as they
> retreat. In this case he wasn't retreating, he
> was headed towards the room where the rest of the
> family was. I understand he is no longer a direct
> threat to the homeowner but at that point he
> became a threat to the rest of the family.
>
> ".40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus
> mentality.
> You don't fire warning shots in your house with a
> .40"
>
> First of all the make of the gun has not been
> released, someone just posted a Glock logo in this
> thread. Second, who says you don't fire a warning
> shot with a .40 caliber? Do you fire a warning
> shot with a .45, maybe a .22, what's your basis
> for this comment? If all occupants of the house
> are upstairs and you fire a round into the stairs
> what is that going to harm? I don't know where he
> fired the warning shot so the stairs are just an
> example.
I'll go back and find the link but I read yesterday that it was in
fact a .40. No mention of the make or model. You're right, it shouldn't
make a difference as to which caliber but we have to contend with forum
participants who have never heard of CQC.
-------------------------------------------------------
> "so ok, are they saying this kid was shot in the
> back now? o_0"
>
> From the latest info released - "The homeowner
> reportedly gave verbal warnings and discharged the
> firearm as a warning. As the teenager proceeded up
> the stairwell and into a hallway, the homeowner
> discharged his firearm several times. The teenager
> was struck once in the left rear shoulder after
> passing the homeowner in the hallway and walking
> towards an upstairs bedroom where other residents
> of the house were located."
>
>
> You can't shoot someone in the back as they
> retreat. In this case he wasn't retreating, he
> was headed towards the room where the rest of the
> family was. I understand he is no longer a direct
> threat to the homeowner but at that point he
> became a threat to the rest of the family.
>
> ".40 Glock? The new gun of cool among the Lexus
> mentality.
> You don't fire warning shots in your house with a
> .40"
>
> First of all the make of the gun has not been
> released, someone just posted a Glock logo in this
> thread. Second, who says you don't fire a warning
> shot with a .40 caliber? Do you fire a warning
> shot with a .45, maybe a .22, what's your basis
> for this comment? If all occupants of the house
> are upstairs and you fire a round into the stairs
> what is that going to harm? I don't know where he
> fired the warning shot so the stairs are just an
> example.
I'll go back and find the link but I read yesterday that it was in
fact a .40. No mention of the make or model. You're right, it shouldn't
make a difference as to which caliber but we have to contend with forum
participants who have never heard of CQC.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
jhII
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:11AM
"Give me three steps, mister" Wrote:
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> Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The
> second is junior and every other kid in America is
> named after his father. I'm a fourth and not that
> pretentious.
The II is not the same as junior. Junior is used if you are named after your father. The II is used if you are named after say, your grandfather or great grandfather.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The
> second is junior and every other kid in America is
> named after his father. I'm a fourth and not that
> pretentious.
The II is not the same as junior. Junior is used if you are named after your father. The II is used if you are named after say, your grandfather or great grandfather.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:32AM
"I'll go back and find the link but I read yesterday that it was in
fact a .40. No mention of the make or model."
Correct, that's what I was saying, it was a .40 but it may or may not have been a Glock. I was trying to make the point that the poster did not bother to read the article(s) about the shooting but saw a Glock logo and immediately attached that brand to the weapon. What else does this person see and immediately establish as fact in their head?
fact a .40. No mention of the make or model."
Correct, that's what I was saying, it was a .40 but it may or may not have been a Glock. I was trying to make the point that the poster did not bother to read the article(s) about the shooting but saw a Glock logo and immediately attached that brand to the weapon. What else does this person see and immediately establish as fact in their head?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:33AM
So much fail in this thread. Someone could post the homeowner hit the kid over the head with a watermelon and all of sudden that's what happened! Leaks to the media almost always contain incorrect information.
THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED IS MR WILDER!
As Gordon Liddy used to say...."If you kill someone make sure (a) there are no witnesses and (b) you definitely kill the individual". That way the only story is yours.
I still say if this douche bag drunk teenager hadnt broken into someone elses home, he would be alive today. Of course as stupid as he appears to have been, he may not have been alive for long.
THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED IS MR WILDER!
As Gordon Liddy used to say...."If you kill someone make sure (a) there are no witnesses and (b) you definitely kill the individual". That way the only story is yours.
I still say if this douche bag drunk teenager hadnt broken into someone elses home, he would be alive today. Of course as stupid as he appears to have been, he may not have been alive for long.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BS all around
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:37AM
Let's get one thing straight-pay the hell attention.
THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED.
No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not passed out, does not respond to gunfire.
This guy needed to cover his ass. Fired 4-5 times--how do you identify which one was warning shot.
I want to hear the 911 tape and see where all the bullets hit before I believe this joker.
THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED.
No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not passed out, does not respond to gunfire.
This guy needed to cover his ass. Fired 4-5 times--how do you identify which one was warning shot.
I want to hear the 911 tape and see where all the bullets hit before I believe this joker.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stand your ground?
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:42AM
jhII Wrote:
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> "Give me three steps, mister" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The
> > second is junior and every other kid in America
> is
> > named after his father. I'm a fourth and not
> that
> > pretentious.
>
> The II is not the same as junior. Junior is used
> if you are named after your father. The II is
> used if you are named after say, your grandfather
> or great grandfather.
When grandpa or great grandpa no longer breathes then you become número I.
No more number II. First place. Have to get certified in something that allows a title.
Warning shot? Yea,right
Wild West Wilder II is The FFU hero of the week.
-------------------------------------------------------
> "Give me three steps, mister" Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who the fuck would use the II on his name? The
> > second is junior and every other kid in America
> is
> > named after his father. I'm a fourth and not
> that
> > pretentious.
>
> The II is not the same as junior. Junior is used
> if you are named after your father. The II is
> used if you are named after say, your grandfather
> or great grandfather.
When grandpa or great grandpa no longer breathes then you become número I.
No more number II. First place. Have to get certified in something that allows a title.
Warning shot? Yea,right
Wild West Wilder II is The FFU hero of the week.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:50AM
"THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED."
How do you know this, are you sure there isn't a hole in the wall of the stairwell and then the first blood is at the top of the stairs and down the hallway where he was actually shot?
"No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not passed out, does not respond to gunfire."
Right, because kids never get into their parents medicine cabinets and mix things like Xanax with alchohol. Heck, highschool kids never experiment with drugs and alchohol and their lack of experience with these substances never results in them over doing it and blacking out.
How do you know this, are you sure there isn't a hole in the wall of the stairwell and then the first blood is at the top of the stairs and down the hallway where he was actually shot?
"No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not passed out, does not respond to gunfire."
Right, because kids never get into their parents medicine cabinets and mix things like Xanax with alchohol. Heck, highschool kids never experiment with drugs and alchohol and their lack of experience with these substances never results in them over doing it and blacking out.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:18AM
Thanks, BB*X
still...................if I have a gun, how's this kid gonna get past me? I mean, wouldnt that be a fight? You are armed, between an intruder and yr fam AND YOU LET THE INTRUDER GO BY YOU!?!?!
..............THAT MAKES NO EFFING SENSE AT ALL!
does that make sense to anybody else? Let an intruder get by you?
for the record - I'm not judging the guy AT ALL. I wasnt there, I dont know. Maybe if more 411 comes out I'll change my mind but for now, all I am doing is askign questions cause this is one effed up, confusing shooting.................maybe one of the strangest ones I've hear ever. DEFINATELY the wierdest one I've heard in at least 10 years................
still...................if I have a gun, how's this kid gonna get past me? I mean, wouldnt that be a fight? You are armed, between an intruder and yr fam AND YOU LET THE INTRUDER GO BY YOU!?!?!
..............THAT MAKES NO EFFING SENSE AT ALL!
does that make sense to anybody else? Let an intruder get by you?
for the record - I'm not judging the guy AT ALL. I wasnt there, I dont know. Maybe if more 411 comes out I'll change my mind but for now, all I am doing is askign questions cause this is one effed up, confusing shooting.................maybe one of the strangest ones I've hear ever. DEFINATELY the wierdest one I've heard in at least 10 years................
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:31AM
"if I have a gun, how's this kid gonna get past me? I mean, wouldnt that be a fight? You are armed, between an intruder and yr fam AND YOU LET THE INTRUDER GO BY YOU!?!?!"
I also do not understand this. I could see him backing down the hallway away from the room the family is in, in hopes of the intruder following him at the top of the stairs and not heading towards that bedroom. I'm just not sure that there is this much thought going into any of this when it is 230am and you've just been woken up by your alarm going off and now there is an intruder coming up your stairs. My thinking right now is that I would have put myself between the intruder and the bedroom but that's easy to say sitting here typing and not under pressure to act right now. I don't think the homeowner was any type of Rambo wanna be, I think he tried to run the kid off but once he made the top of the stairs and headed down the hallway (I'D be interested to know if the way he turned at the top of the stairs is the way he would turn to get to his room in his own house) the homeowner had to make a decision and he did.
I also do not understand this. I could see him backing down the hallway away from the room the family is in, in hopes of the intruder following him at the top of the stairs and not heading towards that bedroom. I'm just not sure that there is this much thought going into any of this when it is 230am and you've just been woken up by your alarm going off and now there is an intruder coming up your stairs. My thinking right now is that I would have put myself between the intruder and the bedroom but that's easy to say sitting here typing and not under pressure to act right now. I don't think the homeowner was any type of Rambo wanna be, I think he tried to run the kid off but once he made the top of the stairs and headed down the hallway (I'D be interested to know if the way he turned at the top of the stairs is the way he would turn to get to his room in his own house) the homeowner had to make a decision and he did.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Taint
()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:31AM
I'm suspect that the house a central staircase with the choice of turning left or right at the top of the stairs. Wilder could have been on the other wing of the hallway. It is pure speculation, but the only way I can work out how he could have passed.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
barkeep
()
Date: March 22, 2013 11:41AM
What's up with the underage alcohol investigation? Someone served him - they gotta be in deep shit.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:41PM
barkeep Wrote:
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> What's up with the underage alcohol investigation?
> Someone served him - they gotta be in deep shit.
Please....underage teenagers have been getting alkyhaul for centuries, including me when I was a teen. I doubt he went into a bar and got served. And if every parent that had teens drinking in their house got arrested......the jails would be rather crowded.
-------------------------------------------------------
> What's up with the underage alcohol investigation?
> Someone served him - they gotta be in deep shit.
Please....underage teenagers have been getting alkyhaul for centuries, including me when I was a teen. I doubt he went into a bar and got served. And if every parent that had teens drinking in their house got arrested......the jails would be rather crowded.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
cccc
()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:43PM
BB*X Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED."
>
> How do you know this, are you sure there isn't a
> hole in the wall of the stairwell and then the
> first blood is at the top of the stairs and down
> the hallway where he was actually shot?
>
> "No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not
> passed out, does not respond to gunfire."
>
> Right, because kids never get into their parents
> medicine cabinets and mix things like Xanax with
> alchohol. Heck, highschool kids never experiment
> with drugs and alchohol and their lack of
> experience with these substances never results in
> them over doing it and blacking out.
PWC police report this morning confirms there was a warning shot.
-------------------------------------------------------
> "THERE WAS NO WARNING SHOT FIRED."
>
> How do you know this, are you sure there isn't a
> hole in the wall of the stairwell and then the
> first blood is at the top of the stairs and down
> the hallway where he was actually shot?
>
> "No way this kid, drunk yes, but walking, so not
> passed out, does not respond to gunfire."
>
> Right, because kids never get into their parents
> medicine cabinets and mix things like Xanax with
> alchohol. Heck, highschool kids never experiment
> with drugs and alchohol and their lack of
> experience with these substances never results in
> them over doing it and blacking out.
PWC police report this morning confirms there was a warning shot.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
I am legend
()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:44PM
Parents had grounded him. He snuck out. Went to a party. Got drunk. Went to wrong house. Alarms went off. He was too drunk to notice the alarms or the guy with the gun in the hallway. He kept going. He got shot and kilt. Not the parents fault. Not the shooters fault. Kilt guy's fault.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 22, 2013 12:48PM
cccc Wrote:
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> >
> PWC police report this morning confirms there was
> a warning shot.
Why would the Prince William County PD be commenting on a case that happened in Loudoun County?
-------------------------------------------------------
> >
> PWC police report this morning confirms there was
> a warning shot.
Why would the Prince William County PD be commenting on a case that happened in Loudoun County?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
verbal warning
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:17PM
LEARN TO READ.
At around 2:30 Sunday morning, sheriff's officials say the homeowner reportedly found Gordley in the stairwell and gave a verbal warning before firing a first shot.
At around 2:30 Sunday morning, sheriff's officials say the homeowner reportedly found Gordley in the stairwell and gave a verbal warning before firing a first shot.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
READ IT AGAIN
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:25PM
Wilder heard his burglar alarm, saw the teen inside and, officials said, confronted the teenager, at first giving “verbal warnings” before firing. The pistol was legally owned, and several shell casings and rounds were recovered at the scene.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
play by play
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:27PM
It went like this....
"Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW
That was the warning--the kid had NO time to respond.
"Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW
That was the warning--the kid had NO time to respond.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
so what?
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:34PM
play by play Wrote:
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> It went like this....
>
> "Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW
>
> That was the warning--the kid had NO time to
> respond.
Even if it went like that, who cares? He shot someone who had broken into his house at 2:30 in the morning. It isn't unreasonable for the homeowner to bb in fear for his life or the lives of his family.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It went like this....
>
> "Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW
>
> That was the warning--the kid had NO time to
> respond.
Even if it went like that, who cares? He shot someone who had broken into his house at 2:30 in the morning. It isn't unreasonable for the homeowner to bb in fear for his life or the lives of his family.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
so this jerk
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:42PM
Fine. Believe what you want.
I just want people to get the facts straight.
THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
This guy is all about self preservation-he tells the cop what they want to hear.
Like someone else said. No witnesses and your story is the only story.
This guy was no boy scout.
I just want people to get the facts straight.
THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
This guy is all about self preservation-he tells the cop what they want to hear.
Like someone else said. No witnesses and your story is the only story.
This guy was no boy scout.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Derp Gone Wild
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:47PM
so this jerk Wrote:
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> Fine. Believe what you want.
>
> I just want people to get the facts straight.
>
> THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
>
> This guy is all about self preservation-he tells
> the cop what they want to hear.
>
> Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.
>
> This guy was no boy scout.
STFU idiot.
You have no facts.
You have no clue what happened one way or another.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fine. Believe what you want.
>
> I just want people to get the facts straight.
>
> THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
>
> This guy is all about self preservation-he tells
> the cop what they want to hear.
>
> Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.
>
> This guy was no boy scout.
STFU idiot.
You have no facts.
You have no clue what happened one way or another.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
ditto
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:52PM
NEITHER DO YOU IDIOT.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
answer this
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:55PM
If this guy was all about protecting his family why was he away from the room where they supposedly were?
We don't even know for sure if there was anyone lese in the house with him btw.
For a skilled gun owner, he sure was in a very odd spot when this menacing kid came up the stairs.
Why let him up the stairs at all.
And if he walked right by him, couldn't he see the kid was wasted and HAD NO WEAPON!!!!
We don't even know for sure if there was anyone lese in the house with him btw.
For a skilled gun owner, he sure was in a very odd spot when this menacing kid came up the stairs.
Why let him up the stairs at all.
And if he walked right by him, couldn't he see the kid was wasted and HAD NO WEAPON!!!!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Where was Juliet?
()
Date: March 22, 2013 01:57PM
Derp Gone Wild Wrote:
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> so this jerk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fine. Believe what you want.
> >
> > I just want people to get the facts straight.
> >
> > THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
> >
> > This guy is all about self preservation-he
> tells
> > the cop what they want to hear.
> >
> > Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> > story is the only story.
> >
> > This guy was no boy scout.
>
>
> STFU idiot.
>
> You have no facts.
>
> You have no clue what happened one way or another.
Ask Donald West Wilder II's daughter.
When there is guns, there's always pussy.
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> so this jerk Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fine. Believe what you want.
> >
> > I just want people to get the facts straight.
> >
> > THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
> >
> > This guy is all about self preservation-he
> tells
> > the cop what they want to hear.
> >
> > Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> > story is the only story.
> >
> > This guy was no boy scout.
>
>
> STFU idiot.
>
> You have no facts.
>
> You have no clue what happened one way or another.
Ask Donald West Wilder II's daughter.
When there is guns, there's always pussy.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
DWWII
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:06PM
ditto Wrote:
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> NEITHER DO YOU IDIOT.
He's not the one spinning theories and posting definative bullshit like you are fumbduck.
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> NEITHER DO YOU IDIOT.
He's not the one spinning theories and posting definative bullshit like you are fumbduck.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
cccc
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:10PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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> cccc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > PWC police report this morning confirms there
> was
> > a warning shot.
>
> Why would the Prince William County PD be
> commenting on a case that happened in Loudoun
> County?
Sorry, my bad. I read it on a PWC website and had a brain fart.
-------------------------------------------------------
> cccc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > PWC police report this morning confirms there
> was
> > a warning shot.
>
> Why would the Prince William County PD be
> commenting on a case that happened in Loudoun
> County?
Sorry, my bad. I read it on a PWC website and had a brain fart.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Danny Defito
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:13PM
Thought he had a son and his wife is Jane Wilder.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
so what?
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:15PM
so this jerk Wrote:
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> Fine. Believe what you want.
Sure. And you can continue to cling to your fantasies.
> I just want people to get the facts straight.
Then share some. All you have provided is innuendo and rumor. When you have a fact, let us know.
> THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
Explain multiple casings and rounds but only one hitting the intruder.
> This guy is all about self preservation-he tells
> the cop what they want to hear.
And you know this how?
> Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.
So you decided to make up your own version?
> This guy was no boy scout.
And you know this how?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Fine. Believe what you want.
Sure. And you can continue to cling to your fantasies.
> I just want people to get the facts straight.
Then share some. All you have provided is innuendo and rumor. When you have a fact, let us know.
> THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD.
Explain multiple casings and rounds but only one hitting the intruder.
> This guy is all about self preservation-he tells
> the cop what they want to hear.
And you know this how?
> Like someone else said. No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.
So you decided to make up your own version?
> This guy was no boy scout.
And you know this how?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
pick a reason
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:28PM
One common reason that men choose to crossdress, is for sexual gratification. They may get sexually exited with the feel of the feminine fabrics and clothing on their body. They may enjoy the sexual excitement that they experience from wearing feminine clothing, and in seeing their feminine image.
Another reason for crossdressing, is that men want to feel free to express the feminine side of their personality. Boys are commonly socialized to believe that they cannot portray feminine traits. They can't cry, appear weak, or be soft. Males who dress in female clothing often feel liberated to express their emotions that perhaps, they are not able to freely express as themselves. For at least a few moments, they can shed the burdens and responsibilities of being a "man." Often, this results in feelings of comfort, and reduced stress. Men wear dresses because it feels good.
Perhaps a reason for crossdressing is one that is not often expressed, but is one that I believe is common. The reason that men wear dresses, is to feel and experience the "power of a woman." What power is this? It is the power of a beautiful woman to be able to turn the heads of all the men as she enters the room. It is the power that lingerie models have when they appear on television, and spontaneously create a sensation in the groins of thousands of the men who are watching. It is the power to choose who will get their attention, and perhaps who will mate with them. It is a power that is biologically linked and has allowed the human race to propagate.
Another reason for crossdressing, is that men want to feel free to express the feminine side of their personality. Boys are commonly socialized to believe that they cannot portray feminine traits. They can't cry, appear weak, or be soft. Males who dress in female clothing often feel liberated to express their emotions that perhaps, they are not able to freely express as themselves. For at least a few moments, they can shed the burdens and responsibilities of being a "man." Often, this results in feelings of comfort, and reduced stress. Men wear dresses because it feels good.
Perhaps a reason for crossdressing is one that is not often expressed, but is one that I believe is common. The reason that men wear dresses, is to feel and experience the "power of a woman." What power is this? It is the power of a beautiful woman to be able to turn the heads of all the men as she enters the room. It is the power that lingerie models have when they appear on television, and spontaneously create a sensation in the groins of thousands of the men who are watching. It is the power to choose who will get their attention, and perhaps who will mate with them. It is a power that is biologically linked and has allowed the human race to propagate.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:28PM
Sheesh......there are some dumb fawkers on this forum. Verbal warning, no verbal warning, Warning shot, no warning shot, shot him on the stairs, shot him in the hall, should have recognized his neighbor's kid, should have asked him if he wanted a beer and a sandwich, kid's drunk so he's not responsible..........blah blah blah yada yada yada....
PERSON BROKE INTO A HOUSE (not his own) AND THE OWNER OF SAID HOUSE EXERCISED HIS RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND HIS HOME AND SHOT THE DUMB ASS DEAD
Why is there even a debate?
PERSON BROKE INTO A HOUSE (not his own) AND THE OWNER OF SAID HOUSE EXERCISED HIS RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AND HIS HOME AND SHOT THE DUMB ASS DEAD
Why is there even a debate?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
BB*X
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:31PM
"THERE was no warning shot. PERIOD."
That would be plausible if every account of the incident didn't say the homeowner fired a warning shot.
"Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW
"That was the warning--the kid had NO time to respond."
Except that the latest account of the incident said he warned him multiple times and from the description of the events he backed away from the kid and allowed him to come up to the top of the stairs and make a turn towards the bedroom where his family was. At this point the homeowner was most likely on the opposite side of the stairs in the hallway at the top of the stairs. We don't know why he allowed him to come upstairs and we don't know why he didn't keep himself and his gun between the intruder and the bedroom. As I stated earlier, it could have been in hopes of the kid following him down the hall the opposite way of the bedroom where everyone else was.
That would be plausible if every account of the incident didn't say the homeowner fired a warning shot.
"Hey you" POW,POW,POW,POW
"That was the warning--the kid had NO time to respond."
Except that the latest account of the incident said he warned him multiple times and from the description of the events he backed away from the kid and allowed him to come up to the top of the stairs and make a turn towards the bedroom where his family was. At this point the homeowner was most likely on the opposite side of the stairs in the hallway at the top of the stairs. We don't know why he allowed him to come upstairs and we don't know why he didn't keep himself and his gun between the intruder and the bedroom. As I stated earlier, it could have been in hopes of the kid following him down the hall the opposite way of the bedroom where everyone else was.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
L7xhC
()
Date: March 22, 2013 02:32PM
pick a reason Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> One common reason that men choose to crossdress,
> is for sexual gratification. They may get sexually
> exited with the feel of the feminine fabrics and
> clothing on their body. They may enjoy the sexual
> excitement that they experience from wearing
> feminine clothing, and in seeing their feminine
> image.
>
> Another reason for crossdressing, is that men want
> to feel free to express the feminine side of their
> personality. Boys are commonly socialized to
> believe that they cannot portray feminine traits.
> They can't cry, appear weak, or be soft. Males who
> dress in female clothing often feel liberated to
> express their emotions that perhaps, they are not
> able to freely express as themselves. For at least
> a few moments, they can shed the burdens and
> responsibilities of being a "man." Often, this
> results in feelings of comfort, and reduced
> stress. Men wear dresses because it feels good.
>
> Perhaps a reason for crossdressing is one that is
> not often expressed, but is one that I believe is
> common. The reason that men wear dresses, is to
> feel and experience the "power of a woman." What
> power is this? It is the power of a beautiful
> woman to be able to turn the heads of all the men
> as she enters the room. It is the power that
> lingerie models have when they appear on
> television, and spontaneously create a sensation
> in the groins of thousands of the men who are
> watching. It is the power to choose who will get
> their attention, and perhaps who will mate with
> them. It is a power that is biologically linked
> and has allowed the human race to propagate.
Just ask Gordon BLVD about it. He's an expert....
LoLzzzzzzzzzz
.
Attachments:
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> One common reason that men choose to crossdress,
> is for sexual gratification. They may get sexually
> exited with the feel of the feminine fabrics and
> clothing on their body. They may enjoy the sexual
> excitement that they experience from wearing
> feminine clothing, and in seeing their feminine
> image.
>
> Another reason for crossdressing, is that men want
> to feel free to express the feminine side of their
> personality. Boys are commonly socialized to
> believe that they cannot portray feminine traits.
> They can't cry, appear weak, or be soft. Males who
> dress in female clothing often feel liberated to
> express their emotions that perhaps, they are not
> able to freely express as themselves. For at least
> a few moments, they can shed the burdens and
> responsibilities of being a "man." Often, this
> results in feelings of comfort, and reduced
> stress. Men wear dresses because it feels good.
>
> Perhaps a reason for crossdressing is one that is
> not often expressed, but is one that I believe is
> common. The reason that men wear dresses, is to
> feel and experience the "power of a woman." What
> power is this? It is the power of a beautiful
> woman to be able to turn the heads of all the men
> as she enters the room. It is the power that
> lingerie models have when they appear on
> television, and spontaneously create a sensation
> in the groins of thousands of the men who are
> watching. It is the power to choose who will get
> their attention, and perhaps who will mate with
> them. It is a power that is biologically linked
> and has allowed the human race to propagate.
Just ask Gordon BLVD about it. He's an expert....
LoLzzzzzzzzzz
.
Attachments:
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
replay time
()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:17PM
Ok, you are fast asleep in your bed with probably your spouse. Agree?
2:30 you hear an alarm go off because your dumbass didn't lock your window downstairs even though its 30 degrees outside and you are paranoid enough to own a gun.
You have ZERO time to call 911--call probably happened after the shooting-agree?
Press release says 911 call received--report of burglary and shots fired.
So the drunk kid climbs into window--thinking he is in his house. The alarm is not audible where he is. He just wants to get in bed before dad catches him. He does not stop anf fix himself a sandwich so he gets to the stairs pretty quickly.
Rambo is where? Top of the stairs? kust came out of his room? There is not time for other family members to huddle together--everyone is in the room where they were sleeping. Agree?
The kid comes lumbering up the stairs--probably quietly and heads tward what he thinks is his room.
Rambo is hiding....where? the kid walks right by him (press release states this) so when are warnings shouted/shot/whatever? When?
When kid was at the bottom stairs? noway that kid comes up the stairs if this guy is shouting at him.
Rambo lets him come upstairs and then blows him away. Not very defensive.
2:30 you hear an alarm go off because your dumbass didn't lock your window downstairs even though its 30 degrees outside and you are paranoid enough to own a gun.
You have ZERO time to call 911--call probably happened after the shooting-agree?
Press release says 911 call received--report of burglary and shots fired.
So the drunk kid climbs into window--thinking he is in his house. The alarm is not audible where he is. He just wants to get in bed before dad catches him. He does not stop anf fix himself a sandwich so he gets to the stairs pretty quickly.
Rambo is where? Top of the stairs? kust came out of his room? There is not time for other family members to huddle together--everyone is in the room where they were sleeping. Agree?
The kid comes lumbering up the stairs--probably quietly and heads tward what he thinks is his room.
Rambo is hiding....where? the kid walks right by him (press release states this) so when are warnings shouted/shot/whatever? When?
When kid was at the bottom stairs? noway that kid comes up the stairs if this guy is shouting at him.
Rambo lets him come upstairs and then blows him away. Not very defensive.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
friskydingo ate your baby
()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:25PM
replay time Wrote:
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>
>
>Blah, blah, blah, made-up-shit, woulda, coulda, shoulda, pound head on keyboard nonsense
You should get a job with the WH press office (or MSNBC which is redundent). They make up stuff all the time too. Plus, you as boring as they are.
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>
>
>Blah, blah, blah, made-up-shit, woulda, coulda, shoulda, pound head on keyboard nonsense
You should get a job with the WH press office (or MSNBC which is redundent). They make up stuff all the time too. Plus, you as boring as they are.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Simple
()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:43PM
Break into a house in Virginia at 2 a.m.- There is a good chace you will be escorted out in a body bag.
The end
The end
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
LittleBooBoo
()
Date: March 22, 2013 03:52PM
WAAAAAAAHH! That bad old man had a gun and I don't like it! MOMMY!!!
I'll cry! WAAAAAAAHH!!!
I'll cry! WAAAAAAAHH!!!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
lol whut 007
()
Date: March 22, 2013 04:24PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
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>
>
> PERSON BROKE INTO A HOUSE (not his own) AND THE
> OWNER OF SAID HOUSE EXERCISED HIS RIGHT TO DEFEND
> HIMSELF AND HIS HOME AND SHOT THE DUMB ASS DEAD
>
> Why is there even a debate?
Because liberals need to politicize events for gun control. It's unfortunate, tragic even. But the kid broke into a house at 2:30 in the morning. wtf
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> PERSON BROKE INTO A HOUSE (not his own) AND THE
> OWNER OF SAID HOUSE EXERCISED HIS RIGHT TO DEFEND
> HIMSELF AND HIS HOME AND SHOT THE DUMB ASS DEAD
>
> Why is there even a debate?
Because liberals need to politicize events for gun control. It's unfortunate, tragic even. But the kid broke into a house at 2:30 in the morning. wtf
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
One Less Future Felon
()
Date: March 22, 2013 04:57PM
misinformation Wrote:
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> This guy was hiding and shot at him several times.
Let's correct that statement:
Then this guy was hiding IN HIS OWN HOUSE AT 2:30 IN THE MORNING and shot AT AN INTRUDER WHO CAME IN THROUGH A WINDOW several times.
I fail to see any problem here, other than some blood stained walls and/or carpet.
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> This guy was hiding and shot at him several times.
Let's correct that statement:
Then this guy was hiding IN HIS OWN HOUSE AT 2:30 IN THE MORNING and shot AT AN INTRUDER WHO CAME IN THROUGH A WINDOW several times.
I fail to see any problem here, other than some blood stained walls and/or carpet.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
I See We Agree
()
Date: March 22, 2013 05:11PM
so this jerk Wrote:
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> No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.
The beauty of being an armed homeowner who has dealt
with an intruder in the proper manner, eh?
If the kid hadn't broken in, he'd be rappin' about
how what he did in sneaking out and getting drunk
was so cool, right? Lighting up a blunt and knocking
back 40s with his homies. But he did break in to
someone else's house (for whatever reason) and now
instead of composing rap songs, he's just decomposing.
Too stupid to live. Darwin wins again!
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> No witnesses and your
> story is the only story.
The beauty of being an armed homeowner who has dealt
with an intruder in the proper manner, eh?
If the kid hadn't broken in, he'd be rappin' about
how what he did in sneaking out and getting drunk
was so cool, right? Lighting up a blunt and knocking
back 40s with his homies. But he did break in to
someone else's house (for whatever reason) and now
instead of composing rap songs, he's just decomposing.
Too stupid to live. Darwin wins again!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Larry H
()
Date: March 22, 2013 07:18PM
Think about it, how drunk could he be if he was able to break into nighbors house? Maybe he did have bad intentions. Maybe he wanted that white teenage pussy upstairs. Also is the kids father white or black? I know the mother is black but the father is either very light skinned black or a white man?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Saint Ides
()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:04PM
Why do they keep talking about how similar the houses look from the front, okay pretty similar except one of them has a garage on the left and one on the right. The back of one of them has a deck and a gazebo and the other didn't seem to. Being ripped to the point of not recognizing your own front door is one thing. Being so lit you don't even notice the difference between the back of the 2 houses as shown on some of the news outlets is another.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
stui
()
Date: March 22, 2013 08:29PM
Larry H Wrote:
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> Think about it, how drunk could he be if he was
> able to break into nighbors house? Maybe he did
> have bad intentions. Maybe he wanted that white
> teenage pussy upstairs. Also is the kids father
> white or black? I know the mother is black but the
> father is either very light skinned black or a
> white man?
Father is white mother is ugly black woman. What does father do for a living besides deal drugs?
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> Think about it, how drunk could he be if he was
> able to break into nighbors house? Maybe he did
> have bad intentions. Maybe he wanted that white
> teenage pussy upstairs. Also is the kids father
> white or black? I know the mother is black but the
> father is either very light skinned black or a
> white man?
Father is white mother is ugly black woman. What does father do for a living besides deal drugs?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
eTTL3
()
Date: March 22, 2013 09:15PM
Still missing the point kids? Here is a simple version regardless of everything else-
Break into house @ 2am = Holes in your body
Understand?
Break into house @ 2am = Holes in your body
Understand?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Tried it
()
Date: March 22, 2013 10:39PM
replay time Wrote:
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> The alarm is not audible where he
> is.
Have you ever been in a house when the alarm goes off? It's not subtle.
> The kid comes lumbering up the stairs--probably
> quietly and heads tward what he thinks is his
> room.
>
Yeah, a quiet drunk tip toes up the stairs.
Your story is not to be believed. Sorry.
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> The alarm is not audible where he
> is.
Have you ever been in a house when the alarm goes off? It's not subtle.
> The kid comes lumbering up the stairs--probably
> quietly and heads tward what he thinks is his
> room.
>
Yeah, a quiet drunk tip toes up the stairs.
Your story is not to be believed. Sorry.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Kid Dead Fred
()
Date: March 23, 2013 12:10AM
eTTL3 Wrote:
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> Still missing the point kids? Here is a simple
> version regardless of everything else-
>
> Break into house @ 2am = Holes in your body
>
> Understand?
Yea, you want to shoot kids. In the yard or aleast wait till they come in?
Do you offer them candy first?
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> Still missing the point kids? Here is a simple
> version regardless of everything else-
>
> Break into house @ 2am = Holes in your body
>
> Understand?
Yea, you want to shoot kids. In the yard or aleast wait till they come in?
Do you offer them candy first?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
You're having a bad day when you
()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:03PM
get dead by a cross dresser. And you're still a virgin.
Bummer.
Bummer.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Dead Eye
()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:45PM
Kid Dead Fred Wrote:
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> Do you offer them candy first?
Nope, I just leave a bottle of vodka in plain sight
of an unlocked window. Once they're in... Blam!!!
I used to put a sign "White pussy upstairs" until
I realized most of them can't read.
For certain ethnic groups, a bucket of fried chicken
or a watermelon and some grape soda works just as well.
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> Do you offer them candy first?
Nope, I just leave a bottle of vodka in plain sight
of an unlocked window. Once they're in... Blam!!!
I used to put a sign "White pussy upstairs" until
I realized most of them can't read.
For certain ethnic groups, a bucket of fried chicken
or a watermelon and some grape soda works just as well.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Signs,Signs, everywhere there'
()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:58PM
Dead Eye Wrote:
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> Kid Dead Fred Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you offer them candy first?
>
> Nope, I just leave a bottle of vodka in plain
> sight
> of an unlocked window. Once they're in...
> Blam!!!
>
> I used to put a sign "White pussy upstairs" until
> I realized most of them can't read.
>
> For certain ethnic groups, a bucket of fried
> chicken
> or a watermelon and some grape soda works just as
> well.
The sign is the most honest item you have posted.
Are you a cross dresser?
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> Kid Dead Fred Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Do you offer them candy first?
>
> Nope, I just leave a bottle of vodka in plain
> sight
> of an unlocked window. Once they're in...
> Blam!!!
>
> I used to put a sign "White pussy upstairs" until
> I realized most of them can't read.
>
> For certain ethnic groups, a bucket of fried
> chicken
> or a watermelon and some grape soda works just as
> well.
The sign is the most honest item you have posted.
Are you a cross dresser?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Grf
()
Date: March 23, 2013 04:58PM
There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home that isn't yours without permission or an invite and you are taking your life in your hands. Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not. If entering the home was an accident then this is a great example of natural selection at work. The kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he entered the home purposely without the homeowners permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing to debate. Move along.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
In a perfect world
()
Date: March 23, 2013 05:36PM
Grf Wrote:
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> There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home
> that isn't yours without permission or an invite
> and you are taking your life in your hands.
> Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not.
> If entering the home was an accident then this is
> a great example of natural selection at work. The
> kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he
> entered the home purposely without the homeowners
> permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing
> to debate. Move along.
Please tell all that you are impotent. Natural selection not withstanding.
Wouldn't want one of your children making a mistake.
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> There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home
> that isn't yours without permission or an invite
> and you are taking your life in your hands.
> Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not.
> If entering the home was an accident then this is
> a great example of natural selection at work. The
> kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he
> entered the home purposely without the homeowners
> permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing
> to debate. Move along.
Please tell all that you are impotent. Natural selection not withstanding.
Wouldn't want one of your children making a mistake.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Grf
()
Date: March 23, 2013 05:46PM
There is a difference between a "mistake", like spilling juice on the carpet, and entering someone's house at 2am. Sure a baseball bat to the face would have done the trick but those are the chances you take when get blackout drunk (or whatever else he was on). He was held accountable for his actions. Unfortunately for him it cost him his life.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Dead Eye
()
Date: March 23, 2013 06:51PM
Signs,Signs, everywhere there' Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Are you a cross dresser?
Why do you ask? You seem to be interested in finding one.
Are you contemplating coming out of your closet?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Are you a cross dresser?
Why do you ask? You seem to be interested in finding one.
Are you contemplating coming out of your closet?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Call of duty
()
Date: March 23, 2013 07:07PM
Grf Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is a difference between a "mistake", like
> spilling juice on the carpet, and entering
> someone's house at 2am. Sure a baseball bat to the
> face would have done the trick but those are the
> chances you take when get blackout drunk (or
> whatever else he was on). He was held accountable
> for his actions. Unfortunately for him it cost him
> his life.
Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons in the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was necessary for continuing life. If a parent can't differentiate between a inebriated teen and a cross dressing pervert then the child rearing license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm you should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed after dementia. You only get to fuck up once. Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live with his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is a difference between a "mistake", like
> spilling juice on the carpet, and entering
> someone's house at 2am. Sure a baseball bat to the
> face would have done the trick but those are the
> chances you take when get blackout drunk (or
> whatever else he was on). He was held accountable
> for his actions. Unfortunately for him it cost him
> his life.
Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons in the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was necessary for continuing life. If a parent can't differentiate between a inebriated teen and a cross dressing pervert then the child rearing license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm you should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed after dementia. You only get to fuck up once. Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live with his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Closet Maid
()
Date: March 23, 2013 07:10PM
Dead Eye Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Signs,Signs, everywhere there' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are you a cross dresser?
>
> Why do you ask? You seem to be interested in
> finding one.
> Are you contemplating coming out of your closet?
I can't even get in mine. Too many skeletons. Your's clean?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Signs,Signs, everywhere there' Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are you a cross dresser?
>
> Why do you ask? You seem to be interested in
> finding one.
> Are you contemplating coming out of your closet?
I can't even get in mine. Too many skeletons. Your's clean?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Another One Bites The Dust
()
Date: March 23, 2013 08:31PM
Call of duty Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons in
> the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew
> kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was
> necessary for continuing life. If a parent can't
> differentiate between a inebriated teen and a
> cross dressing pervert then the child rearing
> license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm you
> should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed
> after dementia. You only get to fuck up once.
> Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live with
> his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.
It's just one of life's lessons. Don't drink to the point
where you can't tell your house from another. Remember
Darwin? Stupidity is always allowed - once. Looks like
he already used up his quota. So there's an opening in
her class.
Please pass my sympathy to your parents. I'm sure you
must be a great disappointment to them as they grow older.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons in
> the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew
> kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was
> necessary for continuing life. If a parent can't
> differentiate between a inebriated teen and a
> cross dressing pervert then the child rearing
> license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm you
> should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed
> after dementia. You only get to fuck up once.
> Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live with
> his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.
It's just one of life's lessons. Don't drink to the point
where you can't tell your house from another. Remember
Darwin? Stupidity is always allowed - once. Looks like
he already used up his quota. So there's an opening in
her class.
Please pass my sympathy to your parents. I'm sure you
must be a great disappointment to them as they grow older.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Dead Eye
()
Date: March 23, 2013 08:34PM
Closet Maid Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I can't even get in mine. Too many skeletons.
> Your's clean?
Pretty much. Plenty of room even after all these years.
Most of my mistakes and misfortunes have been out there
for all to see. Not much to hide, but it did build a
sense of perspective and some character to boot!
-------------------------------------------------------
> I can't even get in mine. Too many skeletons.
> Your's clean?
Pretty much. Plenty of room even after all these years.
Most of my mistakes and misfortunes have been out there
for all to see. Not much to hide, but it did build a
sense of perspective and some character to boot!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Mellow Yellow
()
Date: March 23, 2013 11:08PM
Another One Bites The Dust Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Call of duty Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons
> in
> > the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew
> > kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was
> > necessary for continuing life. If a parent
> can't
> > differentiate between a inebriated teen and a
> > cross dressing pervert then the child rearing
> > license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm
> you
> > should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed
> > after dementia. You only get to fuck up once.
> > Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live
> with
> > his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.
>
> It's just one of life's lessons. Don't drink to
> the point
> where you can't tell your house from another.
> Remember
> Darwin? Stupidity is always allowed - once. Looks
> like
> he already used up his quota. So there's an
> opening in
> her class.
>
> Please pass my sympathy to your parents. I'm sure
> you
> must be a great disappointment to them as they
> grow older.
Life's lessons? Nice touch.
Love the caviler attitude. But I've mellowed with age. Easy come,easy go?
Karma can be a bitch.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Call of duty Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Really glad that you are perfect. No skeletons
> in
> > the closet and perfect scores. My parents knew
> > kids are natural born fuck ups and latitude was
> > necessary for continuing life. If a parent
> can't
> > differentiate between a inebriated teen and a
> > cross dressing pervert then the child rearing
> > license should be revoked. Two thirty am or pm
> you
> > should be conscience. Stupidity is only allowed
> > after dementia. You only get to fuck up once.
> > Donald West Wilder #2's daughter has to live
> with
> > his actions. Dead kid was her schoolmate.
>
> It's just one of life's lessons. Don't drink to
> the point
> where you can't tell your house from another.
> Remember
> Darwin? Stupidity is always allowed - once. Looks
> like
> he already used up his quota. So there's an
> opening in
> her class.
>
> Please pass my sympathy to your parents. I'm sure
> you
> must be a great disappointment to them as they
> grow older.
Life's lessons? Nice touch.
Love the caviler attitude. But I've mellowed with age. Easy come,easy go?
Karma can be a bitch.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
What do you think?
()
Date: March 24, 2013 12:48AM
Do you think he died right away or rolled around for a bit? Like 15 minutes or so?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Highjus
()
Date: March 24, 2013 02:22AM
Cool story bro. Your white neighbor gives blankets to drunk black teenagers and let then sleep on their couch when you were growing up??? I call bullshit on this story. As Louis CK says, black people can't fuck with time machines. Anything past 1980, they don't want to go back.
You are creating the problem Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> late night Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday
> > night
> > > (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m.
> and
> > > drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out
> > wrong.
> > > Was he being raised by absentee parents?
> Was
> > it
> > > commonplace that the young man was out
> > "drinking"
> > > like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a
> school
> > > night? And drinking so much that he
> supposedly
> > > was obliterated out of his mind enough to
> > become
> > > disoriented?
> > >
> > > Forget gun control: where's the parental
> > control?
> >
> >
> > Technically speaking he went out on Saturday
> night
> > and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday
> > morning. I agree with everything else you said
> > though.
>
> This was a normal night for us way back when. The
> difference is our neighbors would got us a drink
> of water, put us on the sofa with blanket and
> called the parents in the morning. Good neighbors
> would tell a little white lie and cover our asses.
> My parents would. Hell is when the police brought
> you home. Not for being drunk but for getting
> caught. We survived and graduated to become
> outstanding citizens and leaders.
> This incident is a reflection of times and
> paranoia. You should make an effort to know your
> neighbors and become friends.
> I feel sorry for the state of northern VA.
You are creating the problem Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> late night Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Myrtle Buttress Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why was a minor of just 16 out on a Sunday
> > night
> > > (a school night, mind you) until 2:30 a.m.
> and
> > > drunk? Any one of these things is flat-out
> > wrong.
> > > Was he being raised by absentee parents?
> Was
> > it
> > > commonplace that the young man was out
> > "drinking"
> > > like an Irish sailor on shore leave on a
> school
> > > night? And drinking so much that he
> supposedly
> > > was obliterated out of his mind enough to
> > become
> > > disoriented?
> > >
> > > Forget gun control: where's the parental
> > control?
> >
> >
> > Technically speaking he went out on Saturday
> night
> > and was dropped off in the wee hours of Sunday
> > morning. I agree with everything else you said
> > though.
>
> This was a normal night for us way back when. The
> difference is our neighbors would got us a drink
> of water, put us on the sofa with blanket and
> called the parents in the morning. Good neighbors
> would tell a little white lie and cover our asses.
> My parents would. Hell is when the police brought
> you home. Not for being drunk but for getting
> caught. We survived and graduated to become
> outstanding citizens and leaders.
> This incident is a reflection of times and
> paranoia. You should make an effort to know your
> neighbors and become friends.
> I feel sorry for the state of northern VA.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
MLK republican
()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:08AM
I find it hard to beleive after two years as neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black kid.
Quentin Tarantino surmises that the shooter is trying to start a dead n....r storage facility. John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson tried to do that in Quentin's garage.
Harvey Kietel had to put a stop to that.
Quentin Tarantino surmises that the shooter is trying to start a dead n....r storage facility. John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson tried to do that in Quentin's garage.
Harvey Kietel had to put a stop to that.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Obama Democrat
()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:17AM
MLK republican Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
Even in broad daylight, it's hard to tell one nigger
from another. At 2:30am in a dark house it's impossible.
Remember, you all look alike to white people.
There are black kids in my neighborhood that even after
10 years here I'd fail to recognize if I saw them
somewhere else. Except that little fat one maybe.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
Even in broad daylight, it's hard to tell one nigger
from another. At 2:30am in a dark house it's impossible.
Remember, you all look alike to white people.
There are black kids in my neighborhood that even after
10 years here I'd fail to recognize if I saw them
somewhere else. Except that little fat one maybe.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
ESY
()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:24AM
MLK republican Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
>
> Quentin Tarantino surmises that the shooter is
> trying to start a dead n....r storage facility.
> John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson tried to do
> that in Quentin's garage.
>
> Harvey Kietel had to put a stop to that.
I live in a townhouse and only know a handfull of my neighbors
after 15 years. Two houses down from mine is an end unit that
seems to have new residents every six months for some reason.
(It's a rental) I can't keep track of all of them.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
>
> Quentin Tarantino surmises that the shooter is
> trying to start a dead n....r storage facility.
> John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson tried to do
> that in Quentin's garage.
>
> Harvey Kietel had to put a stop to that.
I live in a townhouse and only know a handfull of my neighbors
after 15 years. Two houses down from mine is an end unit that
seems to have new residents every six months for some reason.
(It's a rental) I can't keep track of all of them.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
MLK republican
()
Date: March 24, 2013 08:59AM
As disturbing as this kids tragic death is, I still have enough self honesty to categorically state that the shooting was totally legal as long as the story we've been told is truthful and I think it is.
On the other hand exonerating those off duty moonlighting sheriffs deputies in Frederick for killing that guy with down syndrome is total bullshit as far as I'm concerned.
On the other hand exonerating those off duty moonlighting sheriffs deputies in Frederick for killing that guy with down syndrome is total bullshit as far as I'm concerned.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
think about it some2
()
Date: March 24, 2013 09:37AM
Grf Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home
> that isn't yours without permission or an invite
> and you are taking your life in your hands.
> Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not.
> If entering the home was an accident then this is
> a great example of natural selection at work. The
> kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he
> entered the home purposely without the homeowners
> permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing
> to debate. Move along.
The problem is these gun guys weather they are NRA members or not they live for this kind of stuff. They hold their little guns and dream of the chance to blow someone away. I do keep a little six shooter locked in my bedroom but I am not one of those fags with the NRA sticker on my vehicle who lives his life in fear. Had that kid come into my house I would have pepper sprayed the shit out of him and if he survived the fall down the steps we would all have a good laugh about it later. Sadly this homeowner was the live in fear type so nothing good has come from this situation.
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is nothing to debate here. You enter a home
> that isn't yours without permission or an invite
> and you are taking your life in your hands.
> Doesn't matter whether it is an accident or not.
> If entering the home was an accident then this is
> a great example of natural selection at work. The
> kid was too stupid to live amongst us. If he
> entered the home purposely without the homeowners
> permission then he got what he deserved. Nothing
> to debate. Move along.
The problem is these gun guys weather they are NRA members or not they live for this kind of stuff. They hold their little guns and dream of the chance to blow someone away. I do keep a little six shooter locked in my bedroom but I am not one of those fags with the NRA sticker on my vehicle who lives his life in fear. Had that kid come into my house I would have pepper sprayed the shit out of him and if he survived the fall down the steps we would all have a good laugh about it later. Sadly this homeowner was the live in fear type so nothing good has come from this situation.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
MLK republican
()
Date: March 24, 2013 09:59AM
Like I said, it was legal. I do not think it was necessary.
I agree that some of these gun freaks live for stuff like that. Sadly, many of them are police officers.
I hate to sound cold but incidents like this only fuel sick minds of liberal gun control freaks.
I agree that some of these gun freaks live for stuff like that. Sadly, many of them are police officers.
I hate to sound cold but incidents like this only fuel sick minds of liberal gun control freaks.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
It's True
()
Date: March 24, 2013 11:14AM
Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right. You never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best way to get yourself killed and sued by the person you shot, you have to kill them.
Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
Internet Rambo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A Question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> > non
> > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> >
> > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first
> > thing you learn in weapons training is aim for
> a
> > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> suprised
> > he only shot him once. Should have emptied the
> > magazine on him.
>
> You are full of shit. You wound before
> terminating. Not a combat zone.
Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
Internet Rambo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A Question Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or some
> > non
> > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> >
> > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The first
> > thing you learn in weapons training is aim for
> a
> > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> suprised
> > he only shot him once. Should have emptied the
> > magazine on him.
>
> You are full of shit. You wound before
> terminating. Not a combat zone.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Maxipads
()
Date: March 24, 2013 02:00PM
The center mass shot is taught because most wannabe rambos have either shit or pissed on themselves and their flacid hand is shaken faster than the wifes vibrator. A one shot, one shit kinda thing. Pissin in the pants(in this case in the panties). Shooting drunk teenagers takes a certain skillset and precise movements. I hope he wasn't wearing crouchless panties. A man tough enough to shoot an unarmed kid should be able to handle the ridicule.
It's True Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right. You
> never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best way
> to get yourself killed and sued by the person you
> shot, you have to kill them.
>
> Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
>
> Internet Rambo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A Question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or
> some
> > > non
> > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> > >
> > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> first
> > > thing you learn in weapons training is aim
> for
> > a
> > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > suprised
> > > he only shot him once. Should have emptied
> the
> > > magazine on him.
> >
> > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > terminating. Not a combat zone.
It's True Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right. You
> never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best way
> to get yourself killed and sued by the person you
> shot, you have to kill them.
>
> Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
>
> Internet Rambo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > A Question Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why not just shoot the guy in the leg or
> some
> > > non
> > > > lethal spot? He didn't need to kill him.
> > >
> > > Just like on TV right? Youre a moron. The
> first
> > > thing you learn in weapons training is aim
> for
> > a
> > > large target i.e. center of body. Im just
> > suprised
> > > he only shot him once. Should have emptied
> the
> > > magazine on him.
> >
> > You are full of shit. You wound before
> > terminating. Not a combat zone.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
ex-Lester
()
Date: March 24, 2013 02:24PM
The kid also damaged the screen to the rear window. If he wasn't drunk and lived nearby, it would be an open and shut case of breaking and entering with intent to commit burglary or some other offense.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/199516601.html
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/199516601.html
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Guess who's not coming to dinner
()
Date: March 25, 2013 11:06AM
Some days you eat the bear.
Some days a cross dresser shoots you.
Things are definetly changin'.
Some days a cross dresser shoots you.
Things are definetly changin'.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 25, 2013 11:46AM
@guess - not really - cross dresser or not, you best stay outta other ppls houses 2 in the morning LoLz - it's been that way for a while now................
@ex -thanks for that -that link has the most details I've seen yet outta this
@ex -thanks for that -that link has the most details I've seen yet outta this
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
_Eyedea_
()
Date: March 25, 2013 12:02PM
Another Fine American Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cigarette lighter 1916 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > HERO!
> > >
> > > End of story...............
> >
> > Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots
> a
> > kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward
> > would call this wannabe a hero.
>
>
> Mr. Donald West Wilder II is a true American HERO!
> Any gentleman who is willing to get out of bed
> when house alarm sounds, remove his .40 caliper
> Glock and confront a inebriated 16 year old black
> boy who is disoriented and shoot him should be
> awarded a national defense medal. We need more
> heros like Mr. Wilder II
> to protect homes,property and second marriages
> from these heathen misguided teenagers that every
> generation since the beginning of time has
> encountered.
> Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid
> away when you could of pushed him back down the
> steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose
> the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in
> Sterling Virginia.
> You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the
> word. Saving lives one night and destroying them
> the next.
> I'm proud of you, Sir
Yeah, I understand your strawman and all, but if I saw a large figure stumbling torward me in the middle of the night and I lived alone, you'd better beleive whatever is coming torward me is getting blown away, whether it's a person, a zombie, or god damn big foot. It's a tradgedy but honestly the guy was lucky to get any sort of warning at all. Welcome to the age of paranoia, it's here to stay.
Personally I think it's a little much to keep a loaded gun by your bedside if you're living in sterling, and I think it's beyond suspicious that the guy didn't recognise his own neighbor.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Cigarette lighter 1916 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Blowtorch999 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > HERO!
> > >
> > > End of story...............
> >
> > Typical stupid fat white man statement. He shots
> a
> > kid in his house and he's a hero. Only a coward
> > would call this wannabe a hero.
>
>
> Mr. Donald West Wilder II is a true American HERO!
> Any gentleman who is willing to get out of bed
> when house alarm sounds, remove his .40 caliper
> Glock and confront a inebriated 16 year old black
> boy who is disoriented and shoot him should be
> awarded a national defense medal. We need more
> heros like Mr. Wilder II
> to protect homes,property and second marriages
> from these heathen misguided teenagers that every
> generation since the beginning of time has
> encountered.
> Bravo, Mr. Wilder II for blowing this unarmed kid
> away when you could of pushed him back down the
> steps or knocked his drunken ass down. You choose
> the ultimate weapon to terminate a bad night in
> Sterling Virginia.
> You Sir,are a true American in every sense of the
> word. Saving lives one night and destroying them
> the next.
> I'm proud of you, Sir
Yeah, I understand your strawman and all, but if I saw a large figure stumbling torward me in the middle of the night and I lived alone, you'd better beleive whatever is coming torward me is getting blown away, whether it's a person, a zombie, or god damn big foot. It's a tradgedy but honestly the guy was lucky to get any sort of warning at all. Welcome to the age of paranoia, it's here to stay.
Personally I think it's a little much to keep a loaded gun by your bedside if you're living in sterling, and I think it's beyond suspicious that the guy didn't recognise his own neighbor.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Raised on robbery
()
Date: March 25, 2013 03:39PM
Maxipads Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The center mass shot is taught because most
> wannabe rambos have either shit or pissed on
> themselves and their flacid hand is shaken faster
> than the wifes vibrator. A one shot, one shit
> kinda thing. Pissin in the pants(in this case in
> the panties). Shooting drunk teenagers takes a
> certain skillset and precise movements. I hope he
> wasn't wearing crouchless panties. A man tough
> enough to shoot an unarmed kid should be able to
> handle the ridicule.
>
>
>
> It's True Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right.
> You
> > never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best
> way
> > to get yourself killed and sued by the person
> you
> > shot, you have to kill them.
> >
> > Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
> >
> > Internet Rambo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
Yep, that's how it usually happens.
Shooting someone in your house becomes rather expensive:
The cost for the attorney. Have to hire one.
The cost of cleaning and sanitizing.
New carpeting.
The holes. He said he fired warning shots. It's still cold out and repairs will be neccesary.
The hotel room cost. Always wondered if Marriott would give a "self defense" discount? Crime scene so no going home for a couple of days.
Fuel cost. Hotel to police station numerous times.
Telephone cost. Hope they have a good friends and family plan.
Father boasting, mother complaining and daughter doing both will run up the hours.
Bullet replacemnt cost. If and when he gets the rosco back he will have to restock. And everyone is bitching about cost and availability in the area.
Panty cost. Those are probably to soiled to be laundered.
Nope, killin and livin high in Northern Virginia has it's cost.
And just the first month
This ain't the wild west. Or is it?
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> The center mass shot is taught because most
> wannabe rambos have either shit or pissed on
> themselves and their flacid hand is shaken faster
> than the wifes vibrator. A one shot, one shit
> kinda thing. Pissin in the pants(in this case in
> the panties). Shooting drunk teenagers takes a
> certain skillset and precise movements. I hope he
> wasn't wearing crouchless panties. A man tough
> enough to shoot an unarmed kid should be able to
> handle the ridicule.
>
>
>
> It's True Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, Blowtorch, although crazy, is right.
> You
> > never shoot to wound somebody, that's the best
> way
> > to get yourself killed and sued by the person
> you
> > shot, you have to kill them.
> >
> > Any basic firearms course will teach you this.
> >
> > Internet Rambo Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
Yep, that's how it usually happens.
Shooting someone in your house becomes rather expensive:
The cost for the attorney. Have to hire one.
The cost of cleaning and sanitizing.
New carpeting.
The holes. He said he fired warning shots. It's still cold out and repairs will be neccesary.
The hotel room cost. Always wondered if Marriott would give a "self defense" discount? Crime scene so no going home for a couple of days.
Fuel cost. Hotel to police station numerous times.
Telephone cost. Hope they have a good friends and family plan.
Father boasting, mother complaining and daughter doing both will run up the hours.
Bullet replacemnt cost. If and when he gets the rosco back he will have to restock. And everyone is bitching about cost and availability in the area.
Panty cost. Those are probably to soiled to be laundered.
Nope, killin and livin high in Northern Virginia has it's cost.
And just the first month
This ain't the wild west. Or is it?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 25, 2013 03:50PM
MLK republican Wrote:
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> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
>
> Please......they all look alike in the dark
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> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
>
> Please......they all look alike in the dark
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
If they stay out of my way...
()
Date: March 25, 2013 04:36PM
MLK republican Wrote:
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> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
This isn't small town USA.
People don't know (or care to know) most of their neighbors anymore. I know I don't.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> neighbors the shooter did not recognize the black
> kid.
This isn't small town USA.
People don't know (or care to know) most of their neighbors anymore. I know I don't.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 25, 2013 04:43PM
I really dont think 230am with a burglar alarm sounding is the ideal time to introduce yourself to your neighbor.
You cant fix stupid. Well, I take that back. In this case a bullet did!
You cant fix stupid. Well, I take that back. In this case a bullet did!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
CGuwu
()
Date: March 25, 2013 05:29PM
Who ever purchased or sold the booze is royaly fucked. IMO it is still a breaking and entering regardless of how these snot nose pimple faced tweens are trying to justify entering someone elses house at 2am. Kid should have taken a warning shot as a clear indication to GTFO. I wonder if his tox report will show anything other than booze.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Little pink houses or boxes?
()
Date: March 25, 2013 05:32PM
If they stay out of my way... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> MLK republican Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> > neighbors the shooter did not recognize the
> black
> > kid.
>
> This isn't small town USA.
>
> People don't know (or care to know) most of their
> neighbors anymore. I know I don't.
Arrogant self important asshole? Remember you aren't any better than your neighbors.
You live in the same type house on the same street.
How common of you.
-------------------------------------------------------
> MLK republican Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> > neighbors the shooter did not recognize the
> black
> > kid.
>
> This isn't small town USA.
>
> People don't know (or care to know) most of their
> neighbors anymore. I know I don't.
Arrogant self important asshole? Remember you aren't any better than your neighbors.
You live in the same type house on the same street.
How common of you.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 25, 2013 05:35PM
CGuwu Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who ever purchased or sold the booze is royaly
> fucked.
And how do you suppose they are going to be caught? Teens buy alcohol illegally every damn weekend in NOVA. Very seldom is someone held accountable. You are dreaming the surburban dream.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Who ever purchased or sold the booze is royaly
> fucked.
And how do you suppose they are going to be caught? Teens buy alcohol illegally every damn weekend in NOVA. Very seldom is someone held accountable. You are dreaming the surburban dream.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Ambulance Chaser
()
Date: March 25, 2013 06:39PM
John Flannery, a liberal ambulance chasing attorney in Loudoun, auditions for a civil suit with this gag-inducing blog post:
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Just a kid!
I’m just a kid, 16 ½ years old. The half year matters. I’m getting older. I play b-ball and f-ball at Park View High School and can palm a ball. I like rap, rhyme and rhythm. I’m kind of square. I hang with great kids, no h8ers, and I’m blessed that they seem to like me. My Mom and Dad are fine. My Dad’s white and my Mom’s black. So I’m like President Barack although I’m Caleb and my parents are race-reversed. Like a verse I’d rehearse. I’m a person of color but don’t feel that I’m treated differently.
We live in a nice home. The other homes on Pullman Court are like ours - all nice - very much the same.
My friends joke I’m “black Irish” -- so we’re going out tonight – to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day. It’s quiet in my house so I’m going to sneak out now, and go out with my friends. I kind of know better. But my parents must have done the same when they were my age. Huck Finn did this kind of thing. Right?
We are laughing, going to a party, and got some beers to drink. I’m feeling like what must be kind of drunk, having a swimming, spinning, swooning feeling like my head or my consciousness is pulling away and then coming back again, and that feeling you get when you drive over the top of a steep hill too quickly – and your stomach’s out of its rightful orbit.
It’s enough. We’re going home now. It’s after 2 in the AM. I can almost feel that soft pillow – if I can get back in the house without getting in trouble.
We’re trying to figure out in the dark which is my house from the rear yards. My friends are helping – not that much. We found a window unlocked. I’m home free. In a few minutes, I’ll be tucked in, dead to the world.
My steps are unsteady. My hands are free to steady myself – like the way I’ve felt sometimes in the third quarter when I’ve needed water, suffered from dehydration, and it’s not like that either.
There’s some guy in the hallway on the way to the stair well between me and my room. He’s acting all upset. He looks familiar. Do my parents have a house guest? Who is this guy? Why is he up and no one else is? Why is he upset? He’s waving his arms.
What was that noise? Was that a gun? I’ll just run past him and get to my room, get to bed, and sleep. I’ll be safe then. If I’m in my room, then maybe no one will realize I was out at all, if I can get out of my street clothes fast enough. I’ll just run up to my room.
What is that loud thundering sound? The sound hurts. Was that a gun? God, I’m being pushed so hard and fast on my left shoulder, did I shout, it’s breaking me, twisting me, knocking me down, like no pain I’ve ever felt when shoved roughly while fighting for rebounds. It’s coming through my shoulder, through me. My heart! The pain. My chest too. They hurt so. I can’t breathe. I feel faint, cool in the face, and this warm wetness washing over my chest. What’s happening to me? What has he done to me? Who is he? Did he do it? He’s behind me. I can’t turn to see. Are those more gun shots? I’m losing consciousness, have to break my fall. So fast this is happening, and yet seems so slowly happening like to someone else. I want to stay awake, not to sleep. But there’s this unimaginable mind-numbing suffocating pain.
Now there is nothing.
I sense silence, calm, and an absence of any feeling at all.
This must be a dream.
If I could describe it, it’s like I’m in some mid-distance between the window I entered and the sun door I’m entering.
I just know I’ll wake up any moment.
Like through a mist, I see or feel my parents holding each other and crying. Men are coming, reassuring them, to no good effect.
Does this have to do with me sneaking out for the night? Was this my bad?
I hear words spoken of warning shots and .40 caliber bullets … that there were more shots aimed at me. At me?
They say I was in someone else’s home, one lot away from mine; that’s not right; that was my home
I’m having a waking nightmare.
I think I see my body on a shiny metal table torn apart, the left side a grizzly blood-stained mass, things not in their right place, and sense my parents want to see me – what was me – my body – what’s left - but no one will let them.
If only someone would speak for me, say what happened tonight – so everyone could know.
No worry. Soon I’ll wake up. It’s what we all talked about at school, how those 20 elementary school students were killed in Connecticut, that’s what has me dreaming this, that and the drink. Such a thing could never happen in Loudoun!
http://www.loudounprogress.org/?p=4710
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Just a kid!
I’m just a kid, 16 ½ years old. The half year matters. I’m getting older. I play b-ball and f-ball at Park View High School and can palm a ball. I like rap, rhyme and rhythm. I’m kind of square. I hang with great kids, no h8ers, and I’m blessed that they seem to like me. My Mom and Dad are fine. My Dad’s white and my Mom’s black. So I’m like President Barack although I’m Caleb and my parents are race-reversed. Like a verse I’d rehearse. I’m a person of color but don’t feel that I’m treated differently.
We live in a nice home. The other homes on Pullman Court are like ours - all nice - very much the same.
My friends joke I’m “black Irish” -- so we’re going out tonight – to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day. It’s quiet in my house so I’m going to sneak out now, and go out with my friends. I kind of know better. But my parents must have done the same when they were my age. Huck Finn did this kind of thing. Right?
We are laughing, going to a party, and got some beers to drink. I’m feeling like what must be kind of drunk, having a swimming, spinning, swooning feeling like my head or my consciousness is pulling away and then coming back again, and that feeling you get when you drive over the top of a steep hill too quickly – and your stomach’s out of its rightful orbit.
It’s enough. We’re going home now. It’s after 2 in the AM. I can almost feel that soft pillow – if I can get back in the house without getting in trouble.
We’re trying to figure out in the dark which is my house from the rear yards. My friends are helping – not that much. We found a window unlocked. I’m home free. In a few minutes, I’ll be tucked in, dead to the world.
My steps are unsteady. My hands are free to steady myself – like the way I’ve felt sometimes in the third quarter when I’ve needed water, suffered from dehydration, and it’s not like that either.
There’s some guy in the hallway on the way to the stair well between me and my room. He’s acting all upset. He looks familiar. Do my parents have a house guest? Who is this guy? Why is he up and no one else is? Why is he upset? He’s waving his arms.
What was that noise? Was that a gun? I’ll just run past him and get to my room, get to bed, and sleep. I’ll be safe then. If I’m in my room, then maybe no one will realize I was out at all, if I can get out of my street clothes fast enough. I’ll just run up to my room.
What is that loud thundering sound? The sound hurts. Was that a gun? God, I’m being pushed so hard and fast on my left shoulder, did I shout, it’s breaking me, twisting me, knocking me down, like no pain I’ve ever felt when shoved roughly while fighting for rebounds. It’s coming through my shoulder, through me. My heart! The pain. My chest too. They hurt so. I can’t breathe. I feel faint, cool in the face, and this warm wetness washing over my chest. What’s happening to me? What has he done to me? Who is he? Did he do it? He’s behind me. I can’t turn to see. Are those more gun shots? I’m losing consciousness, have to break my fall. So fast this is happening, and yet seems so slowly happening like to someone else. I want to stay awake, not to sleep. But there’s this unimaginable mind-numbing suffocating pain.
Now there is nothing.
I sense silence, calm, and an absence of any feeling at all.
This must be a dream.
If I could describe it, it’s like I’m in some mid-distance between the window I entered and the sun door I’m entering.
I just know I’ll wake up any moment.
Like through a mist, I see or feel my parents holding each other and crying. Men are coming, reassuring them, to no good effect.
Does this have to do with me sneaking out for the night? Was this my bad?
I hear words spoken of warning shots and .40 caliber bullets … that there were more shots aimed at me. At me?
They say I was in someone else’s home, one lot away from mine; that’s not right; that was my home
I’m having a waking nightmare.
I think I see my body on a shiny metal table torn apart, the left side a grizzly blood-stained mass, things not in their right place, and sense my parents want to see me – what was me – my body – what’s left - but no one will let them.
If only someone would speak for me, say what happened tonight – so everyone could know.
No worry. Soon I’ll wake up. It’s what we all talked about at school, how those 20 elementary school students were killed in Connecticut, that’s what has me dreaming this, that and the drink. Such a thing could never happen in Loudoun!
http://www.loudounprogress.org/?p=4710
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 25, 2013 06:52PM
Cute story bro. The only truth was "dead to the world".
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Writing 101
()
Date: March 25, 2013 07:26PM
It's been done before and done better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMuWmC5urcI
We were out on a date in my Daddy's car
We hadn't driven very far
There in the road, straight ahead
The car was stalled, the engine was dead
I couldn't stop, so I swerved to the right
Never forget the sound that night
The cryin' tires, the bustin' glass
The painful scream that I heard last
Well, when I woke up
The rain was pourin' down
There were people standing all around
Something warm a-running in my eyes
But I found my baby somehow that night
I raised her head and when she smiled and said
"Hold me darling for a little while"
I held her close
I kissed her our last kiss
I found the love that I knew I would miss
But now she's gone, even though I hold her tight
I lost my love ... my life, that night
Well, where oh where can my baby be
The Lord took her away from me
She's gone to heaven
So I got to be good
So I can see my baby
When I leave this ol' world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMuWmC5urcI
We were out on a date in my Daddy's car
We hadn't driven very far
There in the road, straight ahead
The car was stalled, the engine was dead
I couldn't stop, so I swerved to the right
Never forget the sound that night
The cryin' tires, the bustin' glass
The painful scream that I heard last
Well, when I woke up
The rain was pourin' down
There were people standing all around
Something warm a-running in my eyes
But I found my baby somehow that night
I raised her head and when she smiled and said
"Hold me darling for a little while"
I held her close
I kissed her our last kiss
I found the love that I knew I would miss
But now she's gone, even though I hold her tight
I lost my love ... my life, that night
Well, where oh where can my baby be
The Lord took her away from me
She's gone to heaven
So I got to be good
So I can see my baby
When I leave this ol' world
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Taint
()
Date: March 25, 2013 07:43PM
Wow, that's shameless.
I'm thinking a hack version of John Edwards' channeling dead babies.
I'm thinking a hack version of John Edwards' channeling dead babies.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Boo-Hoo-Hoo
()
Date: March 25, 2013 10:31PM
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_tragedy_song
The "teenage tragedy song", also known as death rock, "tear jerker" or a "splatter platter", is a style of ballad that was most popular between the late 1950s and early 1960s. These songs lamented tragic teenage death and were either sung from the viewpoint of the dead person's sweetheart or from the viewpoint of the dead (or dying) person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_tragedy_song
The "teenage tragedy song", also known as death rock, "tear jerker" or a "splatter platter", is a style of ballad that was most popular between the late 1950s and early 1960s. These songs lamented tragic teenage death and were either sung from the viewpoint of the dead person's sweetheart or from the viewpoint of the dead (or dying) person.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Nothing tragic
()
Date: March 26, 2013 01:53AM
Yeah, there was no "tragic teenage death" here, just good old natural selection.
As for Rambo, if you knew his ex Amy(probaly Bell now), you'd sleep with a gun too! If his wife is Jane, it's his 2nd and if he has a son he's under 7, daughter from marrige #1 is at least 15.
I truly hope all you assholes who think he was in the wrong have this same thing happen to your children, no, not your teenagers, your grown up 30+ year old children, then you can pass this judgement against them for protecting your grandkids. Or for being such shitty parents they let their kid sneak out and get shot playing stupid.
Why does perspective only count when it's your own?????
**on a side note. As for how the houses look, I know what my friends homes look like, I wouldn't drop someone at the wrong house, so 3 or 4 kids ALL mistook this house for the dead kids? That seems like another strange thing to look into, trollies.
As for Rambo, if you knew his ex Amy(probaly Bell now), you'd sleep with a gun too! If his wife is Jane, it's his 2nd and if he has a son he's under 7, daughter from marrige #1 is at least 15.
I truly hope all you assholes who think he was in the wrong have this same thing happen to your children, no, not your teenagers, your grown up 30+ year old children, then you can pass this judgement against them for protecting your grandkids. Or for being such shitty parents they let their kid sneak out and get shot playing stupid.
Why does perspective only count when it's your own?????
**on a side note. As for how the houses look, I know what my friends homes look like, I wouldn't drop someone at the wrong house, so 3 or 4 kids ALL mistook this house for the dead kids? That seems like another strange thing to look into, trollies.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Reading into things too much
()
Date: March 26, 2013 10:20AM
Little pink houses or boxes? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> If they stay out of my way... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > MLK republican Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> > > neighbors the shooter did not recognize the
> > black
> > > kid.
> >
> > This isn't small town USA.
> >
> > People don't know (or care to know) most of
> their
> > neighbors anymore. I know I don't.
>
> Arrogant self important asshole? Remember you
> aren't any better than your neighbors.
> You live in the same type house on the same
> street.
> How common of you.
No idea where this is coming from.
Never said I was better than my neighbors. I just don't give a shit about them.
They stay out of my way and I stay out of theirs.
-------------------------------------------------------
> If they stay out of my way... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > MLK republican Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I find it hard to beleive after two years as
> > > neighbors the shooter did not recognize the
> > black
> > > kid.
> >
> > This isn't small town USA.
> >
> > People don't know (or care to know) most of
> their
> > neighbors anymore. I know I don't.
>
> Arrogant self important asshole? Remember you
> aren't any better than your neighbors.
> You live in the same type house on the same
> street.
> How common of you.
No idea where this is coming from.
Never said I was better than my neighbors. I just don't give a shit about them.
They stay out of my way and I stay out of theirs.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
guns are awesome!
()
Date: March 26, 2013 11:01AM
Two stories just from today-
Whiskey Dalton Welcome Williams, 20 pictured, of Dalton, Texas, accidentally shot his girlfriend, Ashley Walters, 21, in the face, killing her, after his gun went off during a tussle with another man last week, local police say.
North Carolina man Christopher Stanlane, 34, was on the couch in his Fairmont home wiping down the weapon when it fired at around 4 p.m. on Sunday, striking his namesake in the back of the head.
Whiskey Dalton Welcome Williams, 20 pictured, of Dalton, Texas, accidentally shot his girlfriend, Ashley Walters, 21, in the face, killing her, after his gun went off during a tussle with another man last week, local police say.
North Carolina man Christopher Stanlane, 34, was on the couch in his Fairmont home wiping down the weapon when it fired at around 4 p.m. on Sunday, striking his namesake in the back of the head.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
more happy gun stories
()
Date: March 26, 2013 12:20PM
A Florida teen fatally shot his 12-year-old brother because he mistook the boy for a home invader, according to police in Orlando.
The older boy, 16, was home alone on Friday when the younger sibling arrived at the house. Concerned that someone had broken in, the older boy picked up a gun, ABC News reports.
“He heard some noises and he called out for his brother and he didn’t answer and so then his brother startled him,” said Orlando Police Department Detective Mike Moreschi, according to WFTV.
The older boy, 16, was home alone on Friday when the younger sibling arrived at the house. Concerned that someone had broken in, the older boy picked up a gun, ABC News reports.
“He heard some noises and he called out for his brother and he didn’t answer and so then his brother startled him,” said Orlando Police Department Detective Mike Moreschi, according to WFTV.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Third rate standing.
()
Date: March 26, 2013 02:13PM
more happy gun stories Wrote:
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> A Florida teen fatally shot his 12-year-old
> brother because he mistook the boy for a home
> invader, according to police in Orlando.
>
> The older boy, 16, was home alone on Friday when
> the younger sibling arrived at the house.
> Concerned that someone had broken in, the older
> boy picked up a gun, ABC News reports.
>
> “He heard some noises and he called out for his
> brother and he didn’t answer and so then his
> brother startled him,” said Orlando Police
> Department Detective Mike Moreschi, according to
> WFTV.
And all we get is some cross dressing scared of his teenage neighbor shooting in the back? How come NoVa always gets the losers? Parhetic.
-------------------------------------------------------
> A Florida teen fatally shot his 12-year-old
> brother because he mistook the boy for a home
> invader, according to police in Orlando.
>
> The older boy, 16, was home alone on Friday when
> the younger sibling arrived at the house.
> Concerned that someone had broken in, the older
> boy picked up a gun, ABC News reports.
>
> “He heard some noises and he called out for his
> brother and he didn’t answer and so then his
> brother startled him,” said Orlando Police
> Department Detective Mike Moreschi, according to
> WFTV.
And all we get is some cross dressing scared of his teenage neighbor shooting in the back? How come NoVa always gets the losers? Parhetic.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
I feel safer
()
Date: March 26, 2013 02:40PM
A Washington state father killed his adult daughter and left his son fighting for life after shooting them both in the head as they slept 'to get rid of their demons.'
Michael League, 69, shot Danielle Faucett, 43, and Dennis League, 46, at around 3:30 a.m. on Sunday morning at his house in Puyallup, while his grandchildren slept just feet away.
He father then called 911 and confessed to shooting his children before threatening to take his own life.
On the heart-breaking call, League said, crying: 'I just committed a father's worst sin. I just shot my daughter in the head and my son in the head. I had to put them out of their misery and get rid of their demons. I'm going to have to shoot myself.'
Michael League, 69, shot Danielle Faucett, 43, and Dennis League, 46, at around 3:30 a.m. on Sunday morning at his house in Puyallup, while his grandchildren slept just feet away.
He father then called 911 and confessed to shooting his children before threatening to take his own life.
On the heart-breaking call, League said, crying: 'I just committed a father's worst sin. I just shot my daughter in the head and my son in the head. I had to put them out of their misery and get rid of their demons. I'm going to have to shoot myself.'
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 26, 2013 02:56PM
Are these shooting incident posts supposed to be some sort of comparison to the Sterling incident or just wacko liberal spewage?
None of these incidents are anything like what happened in Sterling. Apples/Oranges.
None of these incidents are anything like what happened in Sterling. Apples/Oranges.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
no victims here
()
Date: March 26, 2013 03:10PM
A burglar fled empty-handed after a Tulsa homeowner fired a handgun at him early Tuesday.
The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm around 1:20 a.m., police said.
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On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30, an intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder violently forced his way into the home, then attacked the woman inside before the homeowner shot him in the chest multiple times.
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Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of a habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was shot by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted burglary Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County Sheriff’s Office.
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On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on what’s believed to have been an attempted burglary in Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast of Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The homeowner called 911 after shooting the intruder with a single shot that killed him.
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Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in North Carolina refused to be a victim when three men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that the homeowner shot one of the men in the neck, sending him to the hospital.
Sheriff’s deputies confirmed that a home invasion had occurred in a home located near the rural intersection of FM Watts and Peacock Road in Columbus County, about 150 miles southeast of Charlotte and about 50 miles from the east coast.
The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm around 1:20 a.m., police said.
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On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30, an intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder violently forced his way into the home, then attacked the woman inside before the homeowner shot him in the chest multiple times.
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Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of a habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was shot by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted burglary Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County Sheriff’s Office.
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On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on what’s believed to have been an attempted burglary in Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast of Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The homeowner called 911 after shooting the intruder with a single shot that killed him.
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Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in North Carolina refused to be a victim when three men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that the homeowner shot one of the men in the neck, sending him to the hospital.
Sheriff’s deputies confirmed that a home invasion had occurred in a home located near the rural intersection of FM Watts and Peacock Road in Columbus County, about 150 miles southeast of Charlotte and about 50 miles from the east coast.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Blowtorch999
()
Date: March 26, 2013 03:25PM
no victims here Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A burglar fled empty-handed after a Tulsa
> homeowner fired a handgun at him early Tuesday.
>
> The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North
> Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the
> homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm around
> 1:20 a.m., police said.
>
>
> -------
>
> On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30, an
> intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina
> home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder
> violently forced his way into the home, then
> attacked the woman inside before the homeowner
> shot him in the chest multiple times.
>
> -------
>
> Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the
> Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of a
> habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was shot
> by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted burglary
> Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County
> Sheriff’s Office.
>
> -------
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on what’s
> believed to have been an attempted burglary in
> Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast of
> Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the
> homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The
> homeowner called 911 after shooting the intruder
> with a single shot that killed him.
>
> -------
>
> Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in
> North Carolina refused to be a victim when three
> men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that the
> homeowner shot one of the men in the neck, sending
> him to the hospital.
>
> Now we're talking! Score for the good guys!
-------------------------------------------------------
> A burglar fled empty-handed after a Tulsa
> homeowner fired a handgun at him early Tuesday.
>
> The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North
> Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the
> homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm around
> 1:20 a.m., police said.
>
>
> -------
>
> On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30, an
> intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina
> home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder
> violently forced his way into the home, then
> attacked the woman inside before the homeowner
> shot him in the chest multiple times.
>
> -------
>
> Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the
> Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of a
> habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was shot
> by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted burglary
> Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County
> Sheriff’s Office.
>
> -------
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on what’s
> believed to have been an attempted burglary in
> Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast of
> Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the
> homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The
> homeowner called 911 after shooting the intruder
> with a single shot that killed him.
>
> -------
>
> Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in
> North Carolina refused to be a victim when three
> men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that the
> homeowner shot one of the men in the neck, sending
> him to the hospital.
>
> Now we're talking! Score for the good guys!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
ICit2
()
Date: March 26, 2013 03:33PM
no victims here Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A burglar fled empty-handed after a Tulsa
> homeowner fired a handgun at him early Tuesday.
>
> The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North
> Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the
> homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm around
> 1:20 a.m., police said.
>
>
> -------
>
> On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30, an
> intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina
> home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder
> violently forced his way into the home, then
> attacked the woman inside before the homeowner
> shot him in the chest multiple times.
>
> -------
>
> Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the
> Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of a
> habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was shot
> by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted burglary
> Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County
> Sheriff’s Office.
>
> -------
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on what’s
> believed to have been an attempted burglary in
> Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast of
> Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the
> homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The
> homeowner called 911 after shooting the intruder
> with a single shot that killed him.
>
> -------
>
> Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in
> North Carolina refused to be a victim when three
> men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that the
> homeowner shot one of the men in the neck, sending
> him to the hospital.
>
> Sheriff’s deputies confirmed that a home
> invasion had occurred in a home located near the
> rural intersection of FM Watts and Peacock Road in
> Columbus County, about 150 miles southeast of
> Charlotte and about 50 miles from the east coast.
Why doesn't the mainstream/liberal press report these stories? :)
-------------------------------------------------------
> A burglar fled empty-handed after a Tulsa
> homeowner fired a handgun at him early Tuesday.
>
> The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North
> Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the
> homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm around
> 1:20 a.m., police said.
>
>
> -------
>
> On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30, an
> intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina
> home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder
> violently forced his way into the home, then
> attacked the woman inside before the homeowner
> shot him in the chest multiple times.
>
> -------
>
> Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the
> Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of a
> habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was shot
> by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted burglary
> Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County
> Sheriff’s Office.
>
> -------
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on what’s
> believed to have been an attempted burglary in
> Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast of
> Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the
> homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The
> homeowner called 911 after shooting the intruder
> with a single shot that killed him.
>
> -------
>
> Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in
> North Carolina refused to be a victim when three
> men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that the
> homeowner shot one of the men in the neck, sending
> him to the hospital.
>
> Sheriff’s deputies confirmed that a home
> invasion had occurred in a home located near the
> rural intersection of FM Watts and Peacock Road in
> Columbus County, about 150 miles southeast of
> Charlotte and about 50 miles from the east coast.
Why doesn't the mainstream/liberal press report these stories? :)
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Is he pleased with himself
()
Date: March 26, 2013 03:47PM
So let's assume our Sterling Dirty Harry is in his late 40's and has owned a gun for 15 years.
All these years he has been waiting...hoping....just once...he could kill somebody.
Instead he shoots an innocent kid who wandered into his house by mistake.
Was it worth it?
All these years he has been waiting...hoping....just once...he could kill somebody.
Instead he shoots an innocent kid who wandered into his house by mistake.
Was it worth it?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
sure was
()
Date: March 26, 2013 03:50PM
Is he pleased with himself Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So let's assume our Sterling Dirty Harry is in his
> late 40's and has owned a gun for 15 years.
>
> All these years he has been
> waiting...hoping....just once...he could kill
> somebody.
>
> Instead he shoots an innocent kid who wandered
> into his house by mistake.
>
> Was it worth it?
How do we know the kid is innocent? What if the kid had a criminal motive? Yeah, it is worth it to know that when the time comes, you can protect your family.
-------------------------------------------------------
> So let's assume our Sterling Dirty Harry is in his
> late 40's and has owned a gun for 15 years.
>
> All these years he has been
> waiting...hoping....just once...he could kill
> somebody.
>
> Instead he shoots an innocent kid who wandered
> into his house by mistake.
>
> Was it worth it?
How do we know the kid is innocent? What if the kid had a criminal motive? Yeah, it is worth it to know that when the time comes, you can protect your family.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
The man of the second
()
Date: March 26, 2013 04:02PM
Blowtorch999 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> no victims here Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A burglar fled empty-handed after a Tulsa
> > homeowner fired a handgun at him early Tuesday.
> >
> > The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North
> > Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the
> > homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm
> around
> > 1:20 a.m., police said.
> >
> >
> > -------
> >
> > On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30,
> an
> > intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina
> > home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder
> > violently forced his way into the home, then
> > attacked the woman inside before the homeowner
> > shot him in the chest multiple times.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the
> > Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of
> a
> > habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was
> shot
> > by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted
> burglary
> > Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County
> > Sheriff’s Office.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on
> what’s
> > believed to have been an attempted burglary in
> > Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast
> of
> > Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the
> > homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The
> > homeowner called 911 after shooting the
> intruder
> > with a single shot that killed him.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in
> > North Carolina refused to be a victim when
> three
> > men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that
> the
> > homeowner shot one of the men in the neck,
> sending
> > him to the hospital.
> >
> > Now we're talking! Score for the good guys!
And your military record? Where did you tour?
Blowtorch was your handle?
-------------------------------------------------------
> no victims here Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A burglar fled empty-handed after a Tulsa
> > homeowner fired a handgun at him early Tuesday.
> >
> > The owner of a home in the 1500 block of North
> > Yukon Avenue encountered the burglar after the
> > homeowner was awakened by his burglar alarm
> around
> > 1:20 a.m., police said.
> >
> >
> > -------
> >
> > On Friday evening, March 8, just before 6:30,
> an
> > intruder broke into a Landrum, South Carolina
> > home, Greenville Online reports. The intruder
> > violently forced his way into the home, then
> > attacked the woman inside before the homeowner
> > shot him in the chest multiple times.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Jose Martin Olivares, 45, of Slaton, is in the
> > Lubbock County Jail on a charge of burglary of
> a
> > habitation with a $20,000 bond. Olivares was
> shot
> > by a Slaton homeowner during an attempted
> burglary
> > Saturday night, according to the Lubbock County
> > Sheriff’s Office.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 13, WHNT reported on
> what’s
> > believed to have been an attempted burglary in
> > Albertville, Alabama, about 50 miles southeast
> of
> > Huntsville. However, the burglar was met by the
> > homeowner who was armed with a shotgun. The
> > homeowner called 911 after shooting the
> intruder
> > with a single shot that killed him.
> >
> > -------
> >
> > Early Sunday morning, March 24, a homeowner in
> > North Carolina refused to be a victim when
> three
> > men broke into his home. WECT TV6 reports that
> the
> > homeowner shot one of the men in the neck,
> sending
> > him to the hospital.
> >
> > Now we're talking! Score for the good guys!
And your military record? Where did you tour?
Blowtorch was your handle?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Taint
()
Date: March 26, 2013 04:26PM
> an innocent kid who wandered into his house by mistake
wandered into his house by mistake? Hardly. He destroyed a window screen in order to open and climb through a window.
wandered into his house by mistake? Hardly. He destroyed a window screen in order to open and climb through a window.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
An act of destruction
()
Date: March 26, 2013 04:40PM
Puddin Taint Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > an innocent kid who wandered into his house by
> mistake
>
> wandered into his house by mistake? Hardly. He
> destroyed a window screen in order to open and
> climb through a window.
OMG, a window screen. That deserves more than one bullet in the back.
Should of taken the kid outside and doused the body with a flamable liquid.
Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
The shooting was justifiable when window screens are involved.
-------------------------------------------------------
> > an innocent kid who wandered into his house by
> mistake
>
> wandered into his house by mistake? Hardly. He
> destroyed a window screen in order to open and
> climb through a window.
OMG, a window screen. That deserves more than one bullet in the back.
Should of taken the kid outside and doused the body with a flamable liquid.
Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
The shooting was justifiable when window screens are involved.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
pow
()
Date: March 26, 2013 04:49PM
An act of destruction Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Puddin Taint Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > an innocent kid who wandered into his house
> by
> > mistake
> >
> > wandered into his house by mistake? Hardly.
> He
> > destroyed a window screen in order to open and
> > climb through a window.
>
> OMG, a window screen. That deserves more than one
> bullet in the back.
> Should of taken the kid outside and doused the
> body with a flamable liquid.
> Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
> The shooting was justifiable when window screens
> are involved.
The shooting is justifiable when someone fails to heed your warnings and advances toward your family members. But, you are stupid, so you don't understand that.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Puddin Taint Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > an innocent kid who wandered into his house
> by
> > mistake
> >
> > wandered into his house by mistake? Hardly.
> He
> > destroyed a window screen in order to open and
> > climb through a window.
>
> OMG, a window screen. That deserves more than one
> bullet in the back.
> Should of taken the kid outside and doused the
> body with a flamable liquid.
> Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
> The shooting was justifiable when window screens
> are involved.
The shooting is justifiable when someone fails to heed your warnings and advances toward your family members. But, you are stupid, so you don't understand that.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 26, 2013 04:55PM
Is he pleased with himself Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So let's assume our Sterling Dirty Harry is in his
> late 40's and has owned a gun for 15 years.
>
> All these years he has been
> waiting...hoping....just once...he could kill
> somebody.
>
> Instead he shoots an innocent kid who wandered
> into his house by mistake.
>
> Was it worth it?
That has to be the most ignorant statement Ive ever read. Are you a mental retard? Ive owned various guns for over 15 years and I hope and pray I never have to use one on another person. But I will if I have to. And if you break into my house at 230am, I guess we will find out if my prayers have power over my common sense. I sure hope not.
And I keep asking.......how does anyone know this was a "mistake"?
-------------------------------------------------------
> So let's assume our Sterling Dirty Harry is in his
> late 40's and has owned a gun for 15 years.
>
> All these years he has been
> waiting...hoping....just once...he could kill
> somebody.
>
> Instead he shoots an innocent kid who wandered
> into his house by mistake.
>
> Was it worth it?
That has to be the most ignorant statement Ive ever read. Are you a mental retard? Ive owned various guns for over 15 years and I hope and pray I never have to use one on another person. But I will if I have to. And if you break into my house at 230am, I guess we will find out if my prayers have power over my common sense. I sure hope not.
And I keep asking.......how does anyone know this was a "mistake"?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
illogical
()
Date: March 26, 2013 05:08PM
So you clowns believe that the destruction of the screen and opening of the window caused an alarm to go off?
And yet, that does not deter our 16 year old??
Absurd.
And then you believe that he proceeded thru the house and ignored both verbal warnings and a warning shot?
Seriously? Seriously?
NO DRUNK PERSON WHO IS CAPABLE OF WALKING WOULD PROCEED.
NOBODY.
Rambo better come up with a more believable story.
Where the hell is the 911 tape?
And yet, that does not deter our 16 year old??
Absurd.
And then you believe that he proceeded thru the house and ignored both verbal warnings and a warning shot?
Seriously? Seriously?
NO DRUNK PERSON WHO IS CAPABLE OF WALKING WOULD PROCEED.
NOBODY.
Rambo better come up with a more believable story.
Where the hell is the 911 tape?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 26, 2013 05:17PM
illogical Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So you clowns believe that the destruction of the
> screen and opening of the window caused an alarm
> to go off?
>
> And yet, that does not deter our 16 year old??
>
> Absurd.
>
> And then you believe that he proceeded thru the
> house and ignored both verbal warnings and a
> warning shot?
>
> Seriously? Seriously?
>
> NO DRUNK PERSON WHO IS CAPABLE OF WALKING WOULD
> PROCEED.
>
> NOBODY.
>
> Rambo better come up with a more believable
> story.
>
> Where the hell is the 911 tape?
Rambo doesnt have to come up with anything. His story is the ONLY story.
-------------------------------------------------------
> So you clowns believe that the destruction of the
> screen and opening of the window caused an alarm
> to go off?
>
> And yet, that does not deter our 16 year old??
>
> Absurd.
>
> And then you believe that he proceeded thru the
> house and ignored both verbal warnings and a
> warning shot?
>
> Seriously? Seriously?
>
> NO DRUNK PERSON WHO IS CAPABLE OF WALKING WOULD
> PROCEED.
>
> NOBODY.
>
> Rambo better come up with a more believable
> story.
>
> Where the hell is the 911 tape?
Rambo doesnt have to come up with anything. His story is the ONLY story.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
lol whut!^
()
Date: March 26, 2013 05:19PM
illogical Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So you clowns believe that the destruction of the
> screen and opening of the window caused an alarm
> to go off?
>
> And yet, that does not deter our 16 year old??
>
> Absurd.
>
> And then you believe that he proceeded thru the
> house and ignored both verbal warnings and a
> warning shot?
>
> Seriously? Seriously?
>
> NO DRUNK PERSON WHO IS CAPABLE OF WALKING WOULD
> PROCEED.
>
> NOBODY.
>
> Rambo better come up with a more believable
> story.
>
> Where the hell is the 911 tape?
Who cares. One dead burglar, one alive and innocent homeowner.
-------------------------------------------------------
> So you clowns believe that the destruction of the
> screen and opening of the window caused an alarm
> to go off?
>
> And yet, that does not deter our 16 year old??
>
> Absurd.
>
> And then you believe that he proceeded thru the
> house and ignored both verbal warnings and a
> warning shot?
>
> Seriously? Seriously?
>
> NO DRUNK PERSON WHO IS CAPABLE OF WALKING WOULD
> PROCEED.
>
> NOBODY.
>
> Rambo better come up with a more believable
> story.
>
> Where the hell is the 911 tape?
Who cares. One dead burglar, one alive and innocent homeowner.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
I shot Jesse James
()
Date: March 26, 2013 05:19PM
The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West II shot him in the back.
No warning shot and know vocal warning.
It's the American way.
No warning shot and know vocal warning.
It's the American way.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Taint
()
Date: March 26, 2013 07:39PM
> OMG, a window screen. That deserves more than one
> bullet in the back.
> Should of taken the kid outside and doused the
> body with a flamable liquid.
> Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
> The shooting was justifiable when window screens
> are involved.
No, my simpleton friend. I'm simply pointing out how ludicrous the statement that he just 'wandered into the house' is. He wandered into the house like Hitler wandered into France.
What justified shooting the kid in the back? This:
"Any person who lawfully occupies a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when the other person has unlawfully entered the dwelling, having committed an overt act toward the occupant or another person in the dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he or another person in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily injury."
> bullet in the back.
> Should of taken the kid outside and doused the
> body with a flamable liquid.
> Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
> The shooting was justifiable when window screens
> are involved.
No, my simpleton friend. I'm simply pointing out how ludicrous the statement that he just 'wandered into the house' is. He wandered into the house like Hitler wandered into France.
What justified shooting the kid in the back? This:
"Any person who lawfully occupies a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when the other person has unlawfully entered the dwelling, having committed an overt act toward the occupant or another person in the dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he or another person in the dwelling is in imminent danger of bodily injury."
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Tainted
()
Date: March 26, 2013 08:21PM
Puddin Taint Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > OMG, a window screen. That deserves more than
> one
> > bullet in the back.
> > Should of taken the kid outside and doused the
> > body with a flamable liquid.
> > Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
> > The shooting was justifiable when window
> screens
> > are involved.
>
> No, my simpleton friend. I'm simply pointing out
> how ludicrous the statement that he just 'wandered
> into the house' is. He wandered into the house
> like Hitler wandered into France.
>
> What justified shooting the kid in the back?
> This:
>
> "Any person who lawfully occupies a dwelling is
> justified in using any degree of physical force,
> including deadly physical force, against another
> person when the other person has unlawfully
> entered the dwelling, having committed an overt
> act toward the occupant or another person in the
> dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he
> or another person in the dwelling is in imminent
> danger of bodily injury."
Is the forum to take seriously a poster who refers to them self as
"puddin taint"?
-------------------------------------------------------
> > OMG, a window screen. That deserves more than
> one
> > bullet in the back.
> > Should of taken the kid outside and doused the
> > body with a flamable liquid.
> > Destroying window screens is simply deplorable.
> > The shooting was justifiable when window
> screens
> > are involved.
>
> No, my simpleton friend. I'm simply pointing out
> how ludicrous the statement that he just 'wandered
> into the house' is. He wandered into the house
> like Hitler wandered into France.
>
> What justified shooting the kid in the back?
> This:
>
> "Any person who lawfully occupies a dwelling is
> justified in using any degree of physical force,
> including deadly physical force, against another
> person when the other person has unlawfully
> entered the dwelling, having committed an overt
> act toward the occupant or another person in the
> dwelling, and the occupant reasonably believes he
> or another person in the dwelling is in imminent
> danger of bodily injury."
Is the forum to take seriously a poster who refers to them self as
"puddin taint"?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Aint
()
Date: March 26, 2013 08:29PM
I shot Jesse James Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West II
> shot him in the back.
> No warning shot and know vocal warning.
That's what happens when you're:
1) In someone else's house at 2:30am
2) Failing to repond to warnings to stop
3) Heading towards the room where the family is
Looks pretty guilty and threatening to me!
I'd have shot him in the back, the front, the head and the ass.
And then reloaded and started firing again.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West II
> shot him in the back.
> No warning shot and know vocal warning.
That's what happens when you're:
1) In someone else's house at 2:30am
2) Failing to repond to warnings to stop
3) Heading towards the room where the family is
Looks pretty guilty and threatening to me!
I'd have shot him in the back, the front, the head and the ass.
And then reloaded and started firing again.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Agreed
()
Date: March 26, 2013 08:37PM
Puddin Aint Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I shot Jesse James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West
> II
> > shot him in the back.
> > No warning shot and know vocal warning.
>
> That's what happens when you're:
>
> 1) In someone else's house at 2:30am
> 2) Failing to repond to warnings to stop
> 3) Heading towards the room where the family is
>
> Looks pretty guilty and threatening to me!
>
> I'd have shot him in the back, the front, the head
> and the ass.
> And then reloaded and started firing again.
+1. Quit trying to blame somebody else for a dumb drunk kid's mistake.
He fucked up and put his own damn self in a bad situation. Nothing unreasonable about the homeowner's response.
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I shot Jesse James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West
> II
> > shot him in the back.
> > No warning shot and know vocal warning.
>
> That's what happens when you're:
>
> 1) In someone else's house at 2:30am
> 2) Failing to repond to warnings to stop
> 3) Heading towards the room where the family is
>
> Looks pretty guilty and threatening to me!
>
> I'd have shot him in the back, the front, the head
> and the ass.
> And then reloaded and started firing again.
+1. Quit trying to blame somebody else for a dumb drunk kid's mistake.
He fucked up and put his own damn self in a bad situation. Nothing unreasonable about the homeowner's response.
You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Taint
()
Date: March 26, 2013 09:06PM
Tainted asks:
> Is the forum to take seriously a poster who refers to them self as
> "puddin taint"?
You certainly don't need to take me seriously, but the consequences of finding yourself on the losing side of law I cited are about as serious as it gets.
> Is the forum to take seriously a poster who refers to them self as
> "puddin taint"?
You certainly don't need to take me seriously, but the consequences of finding yourself on the losing side of law I cited are about as serious as it gets.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
A couple of innocent questions
()
Date: March 26, 2013 09:10PM
Puddin Aint Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I shot Jesse James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West
> II
> > shot him in the back.
> > No warning shot and know vocal warning.
>
> That's what happens when you're:
>
> 1) In someone else's house at 2:30am
> 2) Failing to repond to warnings to stop
> 3) Heading towards the room where the family is
>
> Looks pretty guilty and threatening to me!
>
> I'd have shot him in the back, the front, the head
> and the ass.
> And then reloaded and started firing again.
So how many rounds would you use?
What caliber?
Semi auto or revolver?
Would you allow your daughter to witness?
-------------------------------------------------------
> I shot Jesse James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West
> II
> > shot him in the back.
> > No warning shot and know vocal warning.
>
> That's what happens when you're:
>
> 1) In someone else's house at 2:30am
> 2) Failing to repond to warnings to stop
> 3) Heading towards the room where the family is
>
> Looks pretty guilty and threatening to me!
>
> I'd have shot him in the back, the front, the head
> and the ass.
> And then reloaded and started firing again.
So how many rounds would you use?
What caliber?
Semi auto or revolver?
Would you allow your daughter to witness?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Judge 5
()
Date: March 26, 2013 10:29PM
Strange case. Kid was drunk but was able to climb through window. His friends helped hoist him through wrong house. Weird. Writes rap music. Probably had ghetto vocabulary in white sterling. Complex. Chip,on shoulder. I think he was looking for trouble. Is the shooters daughter pretty? If the answer is yes than maybe he wanted a little white pussy. After all he was star athlete. Maybe there is more to story than kid getting shot in wrong house.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Wormy Mcworm
()
Date: March 26, 2013 11:19PM
The only thing, I say the ONLY thing that matters is that worms are writhing around in this kid's body, turning him into detrius.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Dick Tracy
()
Date: March 26, 2013 11:25PM
Is he pleased with himself Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Instead he shoots an innocent kid
What was he innocent of? Breaking and entering? Burglary? Underage drinking? Trespassing?
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Instead he shoots an innocent kid
What was he innocent of? Breaking and entering? Burglary? Underage drinking? Trespassing?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Probably doped out of his mind
()
Date: March 27, 2013 09:40AM
I shot Jesse James Wrote:
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> The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West II
> shot him in the back.
> No warning shot and know vocal warning.
> It's the American way.
This is Virginia, not NY or CA.
You are under no obligation to issue a verbal warning, or retreat, or any of that other nonsense. Fear of injury of death is all it takes to justify killing someone who has broken into your home.
So the homeowner gave this kid 2 extra chances to live - verbal warnings and a warning shot. He ignored them both and was killed.
Natural selection works.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West II
> shot him in the back.
> No warning shot and know vocal warning.
> It's the American way.
This is Virginia, not NY or CA.
You are under no obligation to issue a verbal warning, or retreat, or any of that other nonsense. Fear of injury of death is all it takes to justify killing someone who has broken into your home.
So the homeowner gave this kid 2 extra chances to live - verbal warnings and a warning shot. He ignored them both and was killed.
Natural selection works.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
John Wilkes Booth
()
Date: March 27, 2013 12:33PM
Probably doped out of his mind Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I shot Jesse James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West
> II
> > shot him in the back.
> > No warning shot and know vocal warning.
> > It's the American way.
>
> This is Virginia, not NY or CA.
It is acceptable to shoot someone in the back in good ole Virginia?
This was once a state on southern gentlemen where shooting someone in the back was an act of cowardice. And very bad taste.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I shot Jesse James Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dumb kid walked up the steps and Wild West
> II
> > shot him in the back.
> > No warning shot and know vocal warning.
> > It's the American way.
>
> This is Virginia, not NY or CA.
It is acceptable to shoot someone in the back in good ole Virginia?
This was once a state on southern gentlemen where shooting someone in the back was an act of cowardice. And very bad taste.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Puddin Aint
()
Date: March 27, 2013 04:22PM
A couple of innocent questions Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So how many rounds would you use?
> What caliber?
> Semi auto or revolver?
> Would you allow your daughter to witness?
My 9mm is loaded with 17-round mags, my .40 with 15-round mags.
(Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant to go in, shred
intrernal organs and not come out the other side.)
Semi auto all the way!
I'd invite my daughter to grab her gun and join in!
Next question?
-------------------------------------------------------
> So how many rounds would you use?
> What caliber?
> Semi auto or revolver?
> Would you allow your daughter to witness?
My 9mm is loaded with 17-round mags, my .40 with 15-round mags.
(Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant to go in, shred
intrernal organs and not come out the other side.)
Semi auto all the way!
I'd invite my daughter to grab her gun and join in!
Next question?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 27, 2013 04:24PM
Puddin Aint Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > (Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant to go
> in, shred
> intrernal organs and not come out the other
> side.)
>
Sounds like my 9mm Black Talons. Go thru you like a spinning saw blade ripping apart anything in it's path! You break in my house at 230am, you could experience the thrill!
-------------------------------------------------------
> > (Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant to go
> in, shred
> intrernal organs and not come out the other
> side.)
>
Sounds like my 9mm Black Talons. Go thru you like a spinning saw blade ripping apart anything in it's path! You break in my house at 230am, you could experience the thrill!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Mk3uK
()
Date: March 27, 2013 04:37PM
libtard Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This was once a state on southern gentlemen where
> shooting someone in the back was an act of
> cowardice. And very bad taste.
Ya, you are going to get shot in the back when you are warned to leave then proceed to make your way into a teenage girls room. You're so stupid it hurts.
-------------------------------------------------------
> This was once a state on southern gentlemen where
> shooting someone in the back was an act of
> cowardice. And very bad taste.
Ya, you are going to get shot in the back when you are warned to leave then proceed to make your way into a teenage girls room. You're so stupid it hurts.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Concerned citizen
()
Date: March 27, 2013 04:59PM
Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube. KId sounded like little thug from Harlem or Southeast DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc. He was very strange individual. Homeowner did the right thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a real piece of shit.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Correction Officer
()
Date: March 27, 2013 06:13PM
Concerned citizen Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube. KId
> sounded like little thug from Harlem or Southeast
> DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc. He was
> very strange individual. Homeowner did the right
> thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a real
> piece of shit.
Cheaper to shoot him than keep his ass in prison for
35+ years. Which. Is. Where. He. Was. Headed.
(Plus the cost of the 6-8 kids he'd father by as many
women.)
-------------------------------------------------------
> Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube. KId
> sounded like little thug from Harlem or Southeast
> DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc. He was
> very strange individual. Homeowner did the right
> thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a real
> piece of shit.
Cheaper to shoot him than keep his ass in prison for
35+ years. Which. Is. Where. He. Was. Headed.
(Plus the cost of the 6-8 kids he'd father by as many
women.)
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
xpHc3
()
Date: March 27, 2013 06:16PM
rap, I love rap! Where is the video I wanna watch. Please?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Ditto
()
Date: March 27, 2013 06:17PM
Correction Officer Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Concerned citizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube. KId
> > sounded like little thug from Harlem or
> Southeast
> > DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc. He
> was
> > very strange individual. Homeowner did the
> right
> > thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a
> real
> > piece of shit.
>
> Cheaper to shoot him than keep his ass in prison
> for
> 35+ years. Which. Is. Where. He. Was. Headed.
>
> (Plus the cost of the 6-8 kids he'd father by as
> many
> women.)
Kid was a douchebag. Wanted that sweet young white pussy upstairs and instead got a 40 caliber hoolow point in his back.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Concerned citizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube. KId
> > sounded like little thug from Harlem or
> Southeast
> > DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc. He
> was
> > very strange individual. Homeowner did the
> right
> > thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a
> real
> > piece of shit.
>
> Cheaper to shoot him than keep his ass in prison
> for
> 35+ years. Which. Is. Where. He. Was. Headed.
>
> (Plus the cost of the 6-8 kids he'd father by as
> many
> women.)
Kid was a douchebag. Wanted that sweet young white pussy upstairs and instead got a 40 caliber hoolow point in his back.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Philip
()
Date: March 27, 2013 06:32PM
I live less than a mile away from where this incident occurred. The houses all look exactly the same in the neighborhood. I highly doubt the young man had ill intentions when he entered the wrong house; however, if I caught someone breaking into my house at such an hour, I think I would fire first and ask questions later. The entire situation is sad, and I feel bad for everyone affected by this situation.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Christians be a shakin
()
Date: March 27, 2013 06:51PM
Concerned citizen Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube. KId
> sounded like little thug from Harlem or Southeast
> DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc. He was
> very strange individual. Homeowner did the right
> thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a real
> piece of shit.
Your mangina is showing. Try another brand of panties.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube. KId
> sounded like little thug from Harlem or Southeast
> DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc. He was
> very strange individual. Homeowner did the right
> thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a real
> piece of shit.
Your mangina is showing. Try another brand of panties.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Ditto the dildo
()
Date: March 27, 2013 06:55PM
Ditto Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Correction Officer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Concerned citizen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube.
> KId
> > > sounded like little thug from Harlem or
> > Southeast
> > > DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc.
> He
> > was
> > > very strange individual. Homeowner did the
> > right
> > > thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a
> > real
> > > piece of shit.
> >
> > Cheaper to shoot him than keep his ass in
> prison
> > for
> > 35+ years. Which. Is. Where. He. Was. Headed.
> >
> > (Plus the cost of the 6-8 kids he'd father by
> as
> > many
> > women.)
>
>
> Kid was a douchebag. Wanted that sweet young white
> pussy upstairs and instead got a 40 caliber hoolow
> point in his back.
You are hilarious. But don't move out the basement yet.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Correction Officer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Concerned citizen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Listened to the kids rap songs on youtube.
> KId
> > > sounded like little thug from Harlem or
> > Southeast
> > > DC. Nigger this nigger that, bitch,ho, etc.
> He
> > was
> > > very strange individual. Homeowner did the
> > right
> > > thing 100 percent. Kids father seems like a
> > real
> > > piece of shit.
> >
> > Cheaper to shoot him than keep his ass in
> prison
> > for
> > 35+ years. Which. Is. Where. He. Was. Headed.
> >
> > (Plus the cost of the 6-8 kids he'd father by
> as
> > many
> > women.)
>
>
> Kid was a douchebag. Wanted that sweet young white
> pussy upstairs and instead got a 40 caliber hoolow
> point in his back.
You are hilarious. But don't move out the basement yet.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
P 20
()
Date: March 27, 2013 07:17PM
Stop all this bad talk about Caleb. I live in the neighborhood and always had a positive interaction with this young man. He was very respectful and a good person. Yes he rapped. That does not make him bad. Stop this bad talk.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Correctional Officer
()
Date: March 27, 2013 07:18PM
P 20 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stop all this bad talk about Caleb. I live in the
> neighborhood and always had a positive interaction
> with this young man. He was very respectful and a
> good person. Yes he rapped. That does not make him
> bad. Stop this bad talk.
Fuck you nigger lover!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stop all this bad talk about Caleb. I live in the
> neighborhood and always had a positive interaction
> with this young man. He was very respectful and a
> good person. Yes he rapped. That does not make him
> bad. Stop this bad talk.
Fuck you nigger lover!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Bottom Line
()
Date: March 27, 2013 07:40PM
Philip Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I highly doubt the young
> man had ill intentions when he entered the wrong
> house;
Then, as oft been repeated here - HE WAS SIMPLY TOO STUPID TO LIVE!
-------------------------------------------------------
> I highly doubt the young
> man had ill intentions when he entered the wrong
> house;
Then, as oft been repeated here - HE WAS SIMPLY TOO STUPID TO LIVE!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 27, 2013 08:07PM
P 20 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stop all this bad talk about Caleb. I live in the
> neighborhood and always had a positive interaction
> with this young man. He was very respectful and a
> good person. Yes he rapped. That does not make him
> bad. Stop this bad talk.
So youre in the "Oooops, I got totally hammered and went in the wrong house window" camp? Well guess what........he may have been the perfect kid (which I doubt) but stupid things happen to stupid people. And have you listened to any cRAP music lately? You cant be a respectful person and make that shit!
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stop all this bad talk about Caleb. I live in the
> neighborhood and always had a positive interaction
> with this young man. He was very respectful and a
> good person. Yes he rapped. That does not make him
> bad. Stop this bad talk.
So youre in the "Oooops, I got totally hammered and went in the wrong house window" camp? Well guess what........he may have been the perfect kid (which I doubt) but stupid things happen to stupid people. And have you listened to any cRAP music lately? You cant be a respectful person and make that shit!
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Slupatha
()
Date: March 28, 2013 03:13AM
Stabitha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Puddin Aint Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > (Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant
> to go
> > in, shred
> > intrernal organs and not come out the other
> > side.)
> >
>
> Sounds like my 9mm Black Talons. Go thru you like
> a spinning saw blade ripping apart anything in
> it's path! You break in my house at 230am, you
> could experience the thrill!
No one would break into a losers basement so relax, have a few drinks and clean your gun.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Puddin Aint Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > (Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant
> to go
> > in, shred
> > intrernal organs and not come out the other
> > side.)
> >
>
> Sounds like my 9mm Black Talons. Go thru you like
> a spinning saw blade ripping apart anything in
> it's path! You break in my house at 230am, you
> could experience the thrill!
No one would break into a losers basement so relax, have a few drinks and clean your gun.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
The self centered Stabitha.
()
Date: March 28, 2013 05:24PM
Stabitha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Puddin Aint Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > (Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant
> to go
> > in, shred
> > intrernal organs and not come out the other
> > side.)
> >
>
> Sounds like my 9mm Black Talons. Go thru you like
> a spinning saw blade ripping apart anything in
> it's path! You break in my house at 230am, you
> could experience the thrill!
Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
The ammunition was discontinued due to health officials complaints the sharp shrouds of metal cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate your ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be injured from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Puddin Aint Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > (Both loaded with Federal Hydra-Shoks, meant
> to go
> > in, shred
> > intrernal organs and not come out the other
> > side.)
> >
>
> Sounds like my 9mm Black Talons. Go thru you like
> a spinning saw blade ripping apart anything in
> it's path! You break in my house at 230am, you
> could experience the thrill!
Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
The ammunition was discontinued due to health officials complaints the sharp shrouds of metal cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate your ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be injured from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 28, 2013 05:53PM
The self centered Stabitha. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> >
> Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
> The ammunition was discontinued due to health
> officials complaints the sharp shrouds of metal
> cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate your
> ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be injured
> from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
Cool story bro. Too bad you made it all up.
"Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT” ammunition sold later by Winchester is very similar to the Black Talon though without the black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing", though the official branding is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However, there are differences in the anatomy of the bullets which become apparent when carefully examined side by side. The hollow point cavity dimensions and angles of the meplat were altered to enhance reliability of expansion, though the basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper" refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at the tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity which allows the sharp petals to remain largely perpendicular to the wound path, unlike traditional designs where the expanding jacket petals would peel back almost completely behind the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is obvious after firing into ballistic gelatin.[13] In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT line and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further dimensional changes to the hollow point for reliable expansion, the distinctive perpendicular petals were made longer yet more rounded at the tips to retain stiffness.
The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some medical personnel were concerned that the sharp barb like tips could potentially cause tears in the surgical gloves and hands of the medical workers, exposing them to greater risk of infection,[2] however there are no documented reports of this actually happening.[10] Most jacketed bullet designs that expand expose sharp edges or corners, yet this had not been raised as an issue by any medical group previously"
And no doctors or nurse should get injured digging my bullets out of a corpse!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2013 05:58PM by Stabitha.
-------------------------------------------------------
> >
> Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
> The ammunition was discontinued due to health
> officials complaints the sharp shrouds of metal
> cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate your
> ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be injured
> from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
Cool story bro. Too bad you made it all up.
"Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT” ammunition sold later by Winchester is very similar to the Black Talon though without the black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing", though the official branding is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However, there are differences in the anatomy of the bullets which become apparent when carefully examined side by side. The hollow point cavity dimensions and angles of the meplat were altered to enhance reliability of expansion, though the basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper" refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at the tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity which allows the sharp petals to remain largely perpendicular to the wound path, unlike traditional designs where the expanding jacket petals would peel back almost completely behind the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is obvious after firing into ballistic gelatin.[13] In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT line and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further dimensional changes to the hollow point for reliable expansion, the distinctive perpendicular petals were made longer yet more rounded at the tips to retain stiffness.
The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some medical personnel were concerned that the sharp barb like tips could potentially cause tears in the surgical gloves and hands of the medical workers, exposing them to greater risk of infection,[2] however there are no documented reports of this actually happening.[10] Most jacketed bullet designs that expand expose sharp edges or corners, yet this had not been raised as an issue by any medical group previously"
And no doctors or nurse should get injured digging my bullets out of a corpse!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2013 05:58PM by Stabitha.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
FMJ
()
Date: March 28, 2013 06:01PM
Stabitha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The self centered Stabitha. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
> > The ammunition was discontinued due to health
> > officials complaints the sharp shrouds of metal
> > cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate your
> > ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be
> injured
> > from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
>
> Cool story bro. Too bad you made it all up.
>
> "Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line
> completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT”
> ammunition sold later by Winchester is very
> similar to the Black Talon though without the
> black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among
> shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for
> “Same eXact Thing", though the official branding
> is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However,
> there are differences in the anatomy of the
> bullets which become apparent when carefully
> examined side by side. The hollow point cavity
> dimensions and angles of the meplat were altered
> to enhance reliability of expansion, though the
> basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the
> Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper"
> refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at the
> tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity which
> allows the sharp petals to remain largely
> perpendicular to the wound path, unlike
> traditional designs where the expanding jacket
> petals would peel back almost completely behind
> the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is
> obvious after firing into ballistic gelatin.[13]
> In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT line
> and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further
> dimensional changes to the hollow point for
> reliable expansion, the distinctive perpendicular
> petals were made longer yet more rounded at the
> tips to retain stiffness.
>
> The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to
> civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some
> medical personnel were concerned that the sharp
> barb like tips could potentially cause tears in
> the surgical gloves and hands of the medical
> workers, exposing them to greater risk of
> infection,[2] however there are no documented
> reports of this actually happening.[10] Most
> jacketed bullet designs that expand expose sharp
> edges or corners, yet this had not been raised as
> an issue by any medical group previously"
>
> And no doctors or nurse should get injured digging
> my bullets out of a corpse!
Isn't it amazing how people can make this kind of shit up in order
to try and inject themselves into issues they don't know a damned
thing about?
-------------------------------------------------------
> The self centered Stabitha. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >
> > Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
> > The ammunition was discontinued due to health
> > officials complaints the sharp shrouds of metal
> > cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate your
> > ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be
> injured
> > from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
>
> Cool story bro. Too bad you made it all up.
>
> "Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line
> completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT”
> ammunition sold later by Winchester is very
> similar to the Black Talon though without the
> black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among
> shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for
> “Same eXact Thing", though the official branding
> is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However,
> there are differences in the anatomy of the
> bullets which become apparent when carefully
> examined side by side. The hollow point cavity
> dimensions and angles of the meplat were altered
> to enhance reliability of expansion, though the
> basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the
> Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper"
> refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at the
> tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity which
> allows the sharp petals to remain largely
> perpendicular to the wound path, unlike
> traditional designs where the expanding jacket
> petals would peel back almost completely behind
> the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is
> obvious after firing into ballistic gelatin.[13]
> In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT line
> and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further
> dimensional changes to the hollow point for
> reliable expansion, the distinctive perpendicular
> petals were made longer yet more rounded at the
> tips to retain stiffness.
>
> The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to
> civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some
> medical personnel were concerned that the sharp
> barb like tips could potentially cause tears in
> the surgical gloves and hands of the medical
> workers, exposing them to greater risk of
> infection,[2] however there are no documented
> reports of this actually happening.[10] Most
> jacketed bullet designs that expand expose sharp
> edges or corners, yet this had not been raised as
> an issue by any medical group previously"
>
> And no doctors or nurse should get injured digging
> my bullets out of a corpse!
Isn't it amazing how people can make this kind of shit up in order
to try and inject themselves into issues they don't know a damned
thing about?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
FMJ
()
Date: March 28, 2013 06:03PM
FMJ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The self centered Stabitha. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > >
> > > Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
> > > The ammunition was discontinued due to health
> > > officials complaints the sharp shrouds of
> metal
> > > cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate
> your
> > > ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be
> > injured
> > > from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
> >
> > Cool story bro. Too bad you made it all up.
> >
> > "Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line
> > completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT”
> > ammunition sold later by Winchester is very
> > similar to the Black Talon though without the
> > black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among
> > shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for
> > “Same eXact Thing", though the official
> branding
> > is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However,
> > there are differences in the anatomy of the
> > bullets which become apparent when carefully
> > examined side by side. The hollow point cavity
> > dimensions and angles of the meplat were
> altered
> > to enhance reliability of expansion, though the
> > basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the
> > Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper"
> > refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at
> the
> > tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity
> which
> > allows the sharp petals to remain largely
> > perpendicular to the wound path, unlike
> > traditional designs where the expanding jacket
> > petals would peel back almost completely behind
> > the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is
> > obvious after firing into ballistic
> gelatin.[13]
> > In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT
> line
> > and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further
> > dimensional changes to the hollow point for
> > reliable expansion, the distinctive
> perpendicular
> > petals were made longer yet more rounded at the
> > tips to retain stiffness.
> >
> > The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to
> > civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some
> > medical personnel were concerned that the sharp
> > barb like tips could potentially cause tears in
> > the surgical gloves and hands of the medical
> > workers, exposing them to greater risk of
> > infection,[2] however there are no documented
> > reports of this actually happening.[10] Most
> > jacketed bullet designs that expand expose
> sharp
> > edges or corners, yet this had not been raised
> as
> > an issue by any medical group previously"
> >
> > And no doctors or nurse should get injured
> digging
> > my bullets out of a corpse!
>
> Isn't it amazing how people can make this kind of
> shit up in order
> to try and inject themselves into issues they
> don't know a damned
> thing about?
I believe these were what the anti-Constitutionalists/Marsixts
referred to as "cop killer bullets" so they could try and
demonize.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The self centered Stabitha. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > >
> > > Black Talon ammo hasn't been sold since 2000.
> > > The ammunition was discontinued due to health
> > > officials complaints the sharp shrouds of
> metal
> > > cut surgical gloves. You should reevaluate
> your
> > > ammo. Innocent doctors and nurses might be
> > injured
> > > from your macho bullshit and paranoia.
> >
> > Cool story bro. Too bad you made it all up.
> >
> > "Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line
> > completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT”
> > ammunition sold later by Winchester is very
> > similar to the Black Talon though without the
> > black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among
> > shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for
> > “Same eXact Thing", though the official
> branding
> > is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However,
> > there are differences in the anatomy of the
> > bullets which become apparent when carefully
> > examined side by side. The hollow point cavity
> > dimensions and angles of the meplat were
> altered
> > to enhance reliability of expansion, though the
> > basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the
> > Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper"
> > refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at
> the
> > tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity
> which
> > allows the sharp petals to remain largely
> > perpendicular to the wound path, unlike
> > traditional designs where the expanding jacket
> > petals would peel back almost completely behind
> > the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is
> > obvious after firing into ballistic
> gelatin.[13]
> > In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT
> line
> > and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further
> > dimensional changes to the hollow point for
> > reliable expansion, the distinctive
> perpendicular
> > petals were made longer yet more rounded at the
> > tips to retain stiffness.
> >
> > The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to
> > civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some
> > medical personnel were concerned that the sharp
> > barb like tips could potentially cause tears in
> > the surgical gloves and hands of the medical
> > workers, exposing them to greater risk of
> > infection,[2] however there are no documented
> > reports of this actually happening.[10] Most
> > jacketed bullet designs that expand expose
> sharp
> > edges or corners, yet this had not been raised
> as
> > an issue by any medical group previously"
> >
> > And no doctors or nurse should get injured
> digging
> > my bullets out of a corpse!
>
> Isn't it amazing how people can make this kind of
> shit up in order
> to try and inject themselves into issues they
> don't know a damned
> thing about?
I believe these were what the anti-Constitutionalists/Marsixts
referred to as "cop killer bullets" so they could try and
demonize.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Cut and paste, stabitha
()
Date: March 28, 2013 07:16PM
Gee Stabitha, you be the man
Two boxes of Black Talon ammo in 10mm Auto
Black Talon is a type of ammunition that was introduced by Winchester Ammunition in 1991 primarily for law enforcement and self-defense. This hollow-point ammunition became known for its bullet's unique construction and sharp petal shape after expansion following impact with tissue or other wet media.[1] Black Talon ammunition was produced in the following calibers: 9mm Luger, 10mm Auto, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .308 Winchester, .338 Winchester Magnum, and .30-06 Springfield.
Contents [hide]
1 Overview
2 Response
3 Current status
3.1 PDX1
4 See also
5 References
[edit]Overview
Two rounds of .45ACP
The Black Talon handgun bullet is a jacketed hollow-point bullet with perforations designed to expose sharp edges upon expansion.[2] The bullet included a Lubalox coating, a proprietary oxide process.[3] Though widely misreported to be Teflon, molybdenum disulfide, or wax, the ammo has an unusual black appearance compared to other copper-jacketed or lead bullets. The black appearance was due to the oxidized copper jacket. This Lubalox coating was to protect the barrel rifling, and did not give the bullet armor-piercing capabilities. This coating is still widely used on many of Winchester's rifle bullets today.[4]
The bullet was designed in 1991 under the supervision of Alan Corzine, who at that time was VP of research and development for Winchester.[5] The round quickly developed a reputation as a very effective expanding bullet. The alleged armor-piercing notion is urban legend, and was a result of media hyperbole—rather than test or field data from actual shootings considering the short time it was on the market. Col Leonard J. Supenski of the Baltimore County police department said "It has the stopping power that police officers need and it is less likely to ricochet or go through the bad guy,"[2] something that could be said of any reliably expanding hollow-point. Despite its unique design, the Black Talon was found to be comparable in performance to conventional hollow-points. Black Talon pistol loads are not loaded to higher working pressures or higher velocities "+P" loadings for like and different calibers.
The first shooting which brought critical media attention to Black Talon was by Gian Luigi Ferri, who used Black Talon and other ammunition to shoot 15 people at a San Francisco law office in 1993; nine of whom died (the 101 California Street shootings). Dr. Boyd Stevens, the San Francisco Medical Examiner who performed the autopsies, later reported at the 1994 International Wound Ballistics Association's conference in Sacramento that the wound trauma caused by Black Talons was unremarkable and that all victims died due to penetration of a vital structure.[6]
The rifle version did not share the handgun bullet's barbed petal design and was basically a solid copper hollow-point with a hollowed out rear shank containing a lead core in a steel liner to prevent jacket rupture thus maintaining necessary penetration in tough game. This ammunition line was renamed Fail Safe.
[edit]Response
Black Talon .40S&W
The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some medical personnel were concerned that the sharp barb like tips could potentially cause tears in the surgical gloves and hands of the medical workers, exposing them to greater risk of infection,[2] however there are no documented reports of this actually happening.[10] Most jacketed bullet designs that expand expose sharp edges or corners, yet this had not been raised as an issue by any medical group previously.[original research?]
The ammunition was used by the gunman of the 1993 Long Island Railroad mass murder for his Ruger P-89 9mm pistol. In 1996 a lawsuit was subsequently filed by one of the victim's family members (McCarthy v. Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., 916 F.Supp. 366 (S.D.N.Y., 1996)) claiming that Olin Corp. should be liable for the shooting spree based on the design, manufacture, marketing, and sale of Black Talon ammunition. The claims against Olin were dismissed because it was held that the bullets were not defectively designed.[11]
In 1993 Winchester removed the ammunition from public sale,[12] but at no time was Black Talon ammunition uniformly prohibited by law. Winchester's Ranger SXT line of ammunition is of the same basic design.
[edit]Current status
Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT” ammunition sold later by Winchester is very similar to the Black Talon though without the black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing", though the official branding is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However, there are differences in the anatomy of the bullets which become apparent when carefully examined side by side. The hollow point cavity dimensions and angles of the meplat were altered to enhance reliability of expansion, though the basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper" refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at the tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity which allows the sharp petals to remain largely perpendicular to the wound path, unlike traditional designs where the expanding jacket petals would peel back almost completely behind the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is obvious after firing into ballistic gelatin.[13] In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT line and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further dimensional changes to the hollow point for reliable expansion, the distinctive perpendicular petals were made longer yet more rounded at the tips to retain stiffness.
[edit]PDX1
In 2009 Winchester-Olin released a new hollow point bullet in its Supreme Elite line of handgun ammunition called the Bonded PDX1.[14] It is similar to the Ranger SXT series and, therefore, the older Black Talon line in its structure, and is available in several calibers and loadings. The most obvious difference from the SXT is that the bonded design, meant to maintain structural integrity through difficult intermediate barriers like auto-glass, largely prevents the sharp petals from peeling away from the lead core and fully protruding into the wound track. The .40 S&W PDX1 cartridge is the primary service ammunition of the FBI.[15] The PDX1 series is also available for purchase by civilian shooters. Further, the only difference between ammunition marked "Law Enforcement" and its unmarked version is that the Federal excise tax which is normally paid by the manufacturer on certain sporting goods, firearms, and ammunition (a major source of wildlife conservation funding) is not paid. Once that tax is paid, it is perfectly legal to sell the ammo via any legal channel. There is no law that prohibits civilians from buying ammunition marked "Law Enforcement," which some of the Ranger line has printed on the box (as do other lines of ammunition.)
[edit]See also
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Black Talon
Full metal jacket bullet
Soft point bullet
Terminal ballistics
Jacketed hollow point
[edit]References
^ Carter, Gregg Lee (2002). Guns In American Society: An Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. p. 64. ISBN 978-1-57607-268-4.
^ a b c A Tax Debate Focuses on Destruction Science by Ronald Smothers, The New York Times, November 7, 1993
^ "WINCHESTER LUBALOX COATED BULLETS FACT SHEET & FAQs\"].
^ "Biting the Bullets", Op/ED in the Washington Post, January 14, 1995.
^ Hex Bullet Hi-Jinx: Taurus' capable copper bullet by Charles E. Petty, American Handgunner, March 10, 2003.
^ http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs2.htm#Black-Talon
^ "High-Tech Death From Winchester", The New York Times, November 13, 1993.
^ "These are bullets that are strictly used to maim and kill", "IN PERSON; On the Other Side of the Divide", by Debbie Galant, The New York Times, March 17, 1996.
^ "Cleverness - and luck", Evan Thomas and Russell Watson, Newsweek, May 1, 1995.
^ "[N]o injuries have been reported to medical professionals removing the bullets" in "Police use new brand of bullets Surgeon says removal may endanger doctors" by Dan R. Barber, The Dallas Morning News, July 6, 1993.
^ McCarthy v. Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., 916 F.Supp. 366 (S.D.N.Y., 1996).
^ "Winchester to Limit Sales of Controversial Bullet", by Pierre Thomas, Washington Post, November 23, 1993.
^ "Supreme Expansion Technology".
^ http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/press-releases/1781067-New-Winchester-reg-Bonded-PDX1-trade-Superior-Personal-Protection-Ammunition/
^ http://www.winchester.com/Products/handgun-ammunition/supreme-elite/bonded-pdx1/Pages/default.aspx
Two boxes of Black Talon ammo in 10mm Auto
Black Talon is a type of ammunition that was introduced by Winchester Ammunition in 1991 primarily for law enforcement and self-defense. This hollow-point ammunition became known for its bullet's unique construction and sharp petal shape after expansion following impact with tissue or other wet media.[1] Black Talon ammunition was produced in the following calibers: 9mm Luger, 10mm Auto, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .308 Winchester, .338 Winchester Magnum, and .30-06 Springfield.
Contents [hide]
1 Overview
2 Response
3 Current status
3.1 PDX1
4 See also
5 References
[edit]Overview
Two rounds of .45ACP
The Black Talon handgun bullet is a jacketed hollow-point bullet with perforations designed to expose sharp edges upon expansion.[2] The bullet included a Lubalox coating, a proprietary oxide process.[3] Though widely misreported to be Teflon, molybdenum disulfide, or wax, the ammo has an unusual black appearance compared to other copper-jacketed or lead bullets. The black appearance was due to the oxidized copper jacket. This Lubalox coating was to protect the barrel rifling, and did not give the bullet armor-piercing capabilities. This coating is still widely used on many of Winchester's rifle bullets today.[4]
The bullet was designed in 1991 under the supervision of Alan Corzine, who at that time was VP of research and development for Winchester.[5] The round quickly developed a reputation as a very effective expanding bullet. The alleged armor-piercing notion is urban legend, and was a result of media hyperbole—rather than test or field data from actual shootings considering the short time it was on the market. Col Leonard J. Supenski of the Baltimore County police department said "It has the stopping power that police officers need and it is less likely to ricochet or go through the bad guy,"[2] something that could be said of any reliably expanding hollow-point. Despite its unique design, the Black Talon was found to be comparable in performance to conventional hollow-points. Black Talon pistol loads are not loaded to higher working pressures or higher velocities "+P" loadings for like and different calibers.
The first shooting which brought critical media attention to Black Talon was by Gian Luigi Ferri, who used Black Talon and other ammunition to shoot 15 people at a San Francisco law office in 1993; nine of whom died (the 101 California Street shootings). Dr. Boyd Stevens, the San Francisco Medical Examiner who performed the autopsies, later reported at the 1994 International Wound Ballistics Association's conference in Sacramento that the wound trauma caused by Black Talons was unremarkable and that all victims died due to penetration of a vital structure.[6]
The rifle version did not share the handgun bullet's barbed petal design and was basically a solid copper hollow-point with a hollowed out rear shank containing a lead core in a steel liner to prevent jacket rupture thus maintaining necessary penetration in tough game. This ammunition line was renamed Fail Safe.
[edit]Response
Black Talon .40S&W
The ammunition was targeted by those opposed to civilian ownership of handguns.[7][8][9] Some medical personnel were concerned that the sharp barb like tips could potentially cause tears in the surgical gloves and hands of the medical workers, exposing them to greater risk of infection,[2] however there are no documented reports of this actually happening.[10] Most jacketed bullet designs that expand expose sharp edges or corners, yet this had not been raised as an issue by any medical group previously.[original research?]
The ammunition was used by the gunman of the 1993 Long Island Railroad mass murder for his Ruger P-89 9mm pistol. In 1996 a lawsuit was subsequently filed by one of the victim's family members (McCarthy v. Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., 916 F.Supp. 366 (S.D.N.Y., 1996)) claiming that Olin Corp. should be liable for the shooting spree based on the design, manufacture, marketing, and sale of Black Talon ammunition. The claims against Olin were dismissed because it was held that the bullets were not defectively designed.[11]
In 1993 Winchester removed the ammunition from public sale,[12] but at no time was Black Talon ammunition uniformly prohibited by law. Winchester's Ranger SXT line of ammunition is of the same basic design.
[edit]Current status
Winchester discontinued the Black Talon line completely in 2000. The “Ranger SXT” ammunition sold later by Winchester is very similar to the Black Talon though without the black Lubalox coating on the bullet. Among shooters, a running joke is that SXT stands for “Same eXact Thing", though the official branding is “Supreme eXpansion Technology”. However, there are differences in the anatomy of the bullets which become apparent when carefully examined side by side. The hollow point cavity dimensions and angles of the meplat were altered to enhance reliability of expansion, though the basic "reverse taper" design pioneered by the Black Talon was retained. This "reverse taper" refers to the bullet's jacket being thicker at the tip than toward the base, enhancing rigidity which allows the sharp petals to remain largely perpendicular to the wound path, unlike traditional designs where the expanding jacket petals would peel back almost completely behind the expanded lead mushroom. This difference is obvious after firing into ballistic gelatin.[13] In 2007 Winchester updated their Ranger SXT line and renamed it Ranger T-Series. Besides further dimensional changes to the hollow point for reliable expansion, the distinctive perpendicular petals were made longer yet more rounded at the tips to retain stiffness.
[edit]PDX1
In 2009 Winchester-Olin released a new hollow point bullet in its Supreme Elite line of handgun ammunition called the Bonded PDX1.[14] It is similar to the Ranger SXT series and, therefore, the older Black Talon line in its structure, and is available in several calibers and loadings. The most obvious difference from the SXT is that the bonded design, meant to maintain structural integrity through difficult intermediate barriers like auto-glass, largely prevents the sharp petals from peeling away from the lead core and fully protruding into the wound track. The .40 S&W PDX1 cartridge is the primary service ammunition of the FBI.[15] The PDX1 series is also available for purchase by civilian shooters. Further, the only difference between ammunition marked "Law Enforcement" and its unmarked version is that the Federal excise tax which is normally paid by the manufacturer on certain sporting goods, firearms, and ammunition (a major source of wildlife conservation funding) is not paid. Once that tax is paid, it is perfectly legal to sell the ammo via any legal channel. There is no law that prohibits civilians from buying ammunition marked "Law Enforcement," which some of the Ranger line has printed on the box (as do other lines of ammunition.)
[edit]See also
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Black Talon
Full metal jacket bullet
Soft point bullet
Terminal ballistics
Jacketed hollow point
[edit]References
^ Carter, Gregg Lee (2002). Guns In American Society: An Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. p. 64. ISBN 978-1-57607-268-4.
^ a b c A Tax Debate Focuses on Destruction Science by Ronald Smothers, The New York Times, November 7, 1993
^ "WINCHESTER LUBALOX COATED BULLETS FACT SHEET & FAQs\"].
^ "Biting the Bullets", Op/ED in the Washington Post, January 14, 1995.
^ Hex Bullet Hi-Jinx: Taurus' capable copper bullet by Charles E. Petty, American Handgunner, March 10, 2003.
^ http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs2.htm#Black-Talon
^ "High-Tech Death From Winchester", The New York Times, November 13, 1993.
^ "These are bullets that are strictly used to maim and kill", "IN PERSON; On the Other Side of the Divide", by Debbie Galant, The New York Times, March 17, 1996.
^ "Cleverness - and luck", Evan Thomas and Russell Watson, Newsweek, May 1, 1995.
^ "[N]o injuries have been reported to medical professionals removing the bullets" in "Police use new brand of bullets Surgeon says removal may endanger doctors" by Dan R. Barber, The Dallas Morning News, July 6, 1993.
^ McCarthy v. Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., 916 F.Supp. 366 (S.D.N.Y., 1996).
^ "Winchester to Limit Sales of Controversial Bullet", by Pierre Thomas, Washington Post, November 23, 1993.
^ "Supreme Expansion Technology".
^ http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/accessories/press-releases/1781067-New-Winchester-reg-Bonded-PDX1-trade-Superior-Personal-Protection-Ammunition/
^ http://www.winchester.com/Products/handgun-ammunition/supreme-elite/bonded-pdx1/Pages/default.aspx
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 28, 2013 07:39PM
^ haha what you thought I wrote out all that shit? You are pretty dumb.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: March 28, 2013 08:48PM
By the way, I have about 250 rounds of 9mm Black Talons. Wonder what that's worth these days?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Dick Hertz.
()
Date: March 28, 2013 08:55PM
Cut and paste, stabitha Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Gee Stabitha, you be the man
>
>
> Two boxes of Black Talon ammo in 10mm Auto
> Black Talon is a type of ammunition that was
> introduced by Winchester Ammunition in 1991
> primarily for law enforcement and self-defense.
> This hollow-point ammunition became known for its
> bullet's unique construction and sharp petal shape
> after expansion following impact with tissue or
> other wet media.[1] Black Talon ammunition was
> produced in the following calibers: 9mm Luger,
> 10mm Auto, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 Magnum, .44
> Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .308 Winchester,
> .338 Winchester Magnum, and .30-06 Springfield.
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Overview
> 2 Response
> 3 Current status
> 3.1 PDX1
> 4 See also
> 5 References
> [edit]Overview
>
Yeah, the embedded html tags and footnotes didn't fool you. LOL It was obvious that was a c&p. You're a regular Dick Tracy
-------------------------------------------------------
> Gee Stabitha, you be the man
>
>
> Two boxes of Black Talon ammo in 10mm Auto
> Black Talon is a type of ammunition that was
> introduced by Winchester Ammunition in 1991
> primarily for law enforcement and self-defense.
> This hollow-point ammunition became known for its
> bullet's unique construction and sharp petal shape
> after expansion following impact with tissue or
> other wet media.[1] Black Talon ammunition was
> produced in the following calibers: 9mm Luger,
> 10mm Auto, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 Magnum, .44
> Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .308 Winchester,
> .338 Winchester Magnum, and .30-06 Springfield.
> Contents [hide]
> 1 Overview
> 2 Response
> 3 Current status
> 3.1 PDX1
> 4 See also
> 5 References
> [edit]Overview
>
Yeah, the embedded html tags and footnotes didn't fool you. LOL It was obvious that was a c&p. You're a regular Dick Tracy
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Your Neighbor
()
Date: March 30, 2013 12:10AM
I know this guy...and he is well-educated, kind, and has dedicated much of his life to community service. He's not a redneck yahoo looking for trouble.
Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate, but the shooter did not cause the situation. The shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home, drink under age, drink to the point of being blind drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore the burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave the home, or shove past the homeowner on the way toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb. Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the shooter.
I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right now (or in the future) for both legal and personal reasons, but for the record, if you break into my house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want to, but I guarantee that you will regret waking me up in the middle of the night by breaking and entering.
If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I will "feel", because I will still be alive. You will not feel anything. You will be dead.
Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact. Guess my house.
Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate, but the shooter did not cause the situation. The shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home, drink under age, drink to the point of being blind drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore the burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave the home, or shove past the homeowner on the way toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb. Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the shooter.
I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right now (or in the future) for both legal and personal reasons, but for the record, if you break into my house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want to, but I guarantee that you will regret waking me up in the middle of the night by breaking and entering.
If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I will "feel", because I will still be alive. You will not feel anything. You will be dead.
Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact. Guess my house.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
I hope you are not.
()
Date: March 30, 2013 06:40AM
Your Neighbor Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I know this guy...and he is well-educated, kind,
> and has dedicated much of his life to community
> service. He's not a redneck yahoo looking for
> trouble.
>
> Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate, but
> the shooter did not cause the situation. The
> shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home,
> drink under age, drink to the point of being blind
> drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore the
> burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave the
> home, or shove past the homeowner on the way
> toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb.
> Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
>
> Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the
> shooter.
>
> I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right now
> (or in the future) for both legal and personal
> reasons, but for the record, if you break into my
> house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want to,
> but I guarantee that you will regret waking me up
> in the middle of the night by breaking and
> entering.
>
> If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I
> will "feel", because I will still be alive. You
> will not feel anything. You will be dead.
>
> Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact.
> Guess my house.
You are full of shit and probably drunk. Get a life, loser. Someone who is responsible doesn't post this crap at midnight.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I know this guy...and he is well-educated, kind,
> and has dedicated much of his life to community
> service. He's not a redneck yahoo looking for
> trouble.
>
> Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate, but
> the shooter did not cause the situation. The
> shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home,
> drink under age, drink to the point of being blind
> drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore the
> burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave the
> home, or shove past the homeowner on the way
> toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb.
> Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
>
> Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the
> shooter.
>
> I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right now
> (or in the future) for both legal and personal
> reasons, but for the record, if you break into my
> house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want to,
> but I guarantee that you will regret waking me up
> in the middle of the night by breaking and
> entering.
>
> If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I
> will "feel", because I will still be alive. You
> will not feel anything. You will be dead.
>
> Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact.
> Guess my house.
You are full of shit and probably drunk. Get a life, loser. Someone who is responsible doesn't post this crap at midnight.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Like post
()
Date: March 30, 2013 06:49AM
Your Neighbor Wrote:
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> I know this guy...and he is well-educated, kind,
> and has dedicated much of his life to community
> service. He's not a redneck yahoo looking for
> trouble.
>
> Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate, but
> the shooter did not cause the situation. The
> shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home,
> drink under age, drink to the point of being blind
> drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore the
> burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave the
> home, or shove past the homeowner on the way
> toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb.
> Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
>
> Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the
> shooter.
>
> I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right now
> (or in the future) for both legal and personal
> reasons, but for the record, if you break into my
> house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want to,
> but I guarantee that you will regret waking me up
> in the middle of the night by breaking and
> entering.
>
> If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I
> will "feel", because I will still be alive. You
> will not feel anything. You will be dead.
>
> Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact.
> Guess my house.
Okay post.
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> I know this guy...and he is well-educated, kind,
> and has dedicated much of his life to community
> service. He's not a redneck yahoo looking for
> trouble.
>
> Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate, but
> the shooter did not cause the situation. The
> shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home,
> drink under age, drink to the point of being blind
> drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore the
> burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave the
> home, or shove past the homeowner on the way
> toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb.
> Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
>
> Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the
> shooter.
>
> I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right now
> (or in the future) for both legal and personal
> reasons, but for the record, if you break into my
> house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want to,
> but I guarantee that you will regret waking me up
> in the middle of the night by breaking and
> entering.
>
> If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I
> will "feel", because I will still be alive. You
> will not feel anything. You will be dead.
>
> Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact.
> Guess my house.
Okay post.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
White guys now wear panties
()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:55AM
Like post Wrote:
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> Your Neighbor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I know this guy...and he is well-educated,
> kind,
> > and has dedicated much of his life to community
> > service. He's not a redneck yahoo looking for
> > trouble.
> >
> > Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate,
> but
> > the shooter did not cause the situation. The
> > shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home,
> > drink under age, drink to the point of being
> blind
> > drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore
> the
> > burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave
> the
> > home, or shove past the homeowner on the way
> > toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb.
>
> > Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
> >
> > Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the
> > shooter.
> >
> > I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right
> now
> > (or in the future) for both legal and personal
> > reasons, but for the record, if you break into
> my
> > house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want
> to,
> > but I guarantee that you will regret waking me
> up
> > in the middle of the night by breaking and
> > entering.
> >
> > If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I
> > will "feel", because I will still be alive.
> You
> > will not feel anything. You will be dead.
> >
> > Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact.
>
> > Guess my house.
>
> Okay post.
This jerk is just another fat white paranoid wannabe who feels tough because he bought a gun. And watched to many movies.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Your Neighbor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I know this guy...and he is well-educated,
> kind,
> > and has dedicated much of his life to community
> > service. He's not a redneck yahoo looking for
> > trouble.
> >
> > Yes, what happened was extremely unfortunate,
> but
> > the shooter did not cause the situation. The
> > shooter did not sneak out of his parents' home,
> > drink under age, drink to the point of being
> blind
> > drunk, break into a stranger's house, ignore
> the
> > burglar alarm, ignore verbal warnings to leave
> the
> > home, or shove past the homeowner on the way
> > toward the family bedrooms. That was all Caleb.
>
> > Caleb owns this shooting...not the homeowner.
> >
> > Seriously, Caleb's parents don't even blame the
> > shooter.
> >
> > I would hate to be in shooter’s shoes right
> now
> > (or in the future) for both legal and personal
> > reasons, but for the record, if you break into
> my
> > house tonight, I will kill you. I don't want
> to,
> > but I guarantee that you will regret waking me
> up
> > in the middle of the night by breaking and
> > entering.
> >
> > If it's a mistake, I'll feel horribly. Yes, I
> > will "feel", because I will still be alive.
> You
> > will not feel anything. You will be dead.
> >
> > Pile on cesspool lifeguards, but this is a fact.
>
> > Guess my house.
>
> Okay post.
This jerk is just another fat white paranoid wannabe who feels tough because he bought a gun. And watched to many movies.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 30, 2013 08:26AM
@White - yeah, how DARE the asshole defend his home.
HEY YOU RACIST PIECE OF FUCK! GET YOUR ASS OUT OF HERE WITH YR FUCKING IGNORANT ASS BULLSHIT!!
p.s. I notice the race-focused jackass doesnt mention the dead kid, condolences, or anything like that at all in his thread. Is ONLY focus on race
well....................also notice his MAIN focus is on that fireman's panties
Guess we all know what he REALLY wants to know about this case LoLz
pic unrelated
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HEY YOU RACIST PIECE OF FUCK! GET YOUR ASS OUT OF HERE WITH YR FUCKING IGNORANT ASS BULLSHIT!!
p.s. I notice the race-focused jackass doesnt mention the dead kid, condolences, or anything like that at all in his thread. Is ONLY focus on race
well....................also notice his MAIN focus is on that fireman's panties
Guess we all know what he REALLY wants to know about this case LoLz
pic unrelated
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
3nTLU
()
Date: March 30, 2013 09:24AM
Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @White - yeah, how DARE the asshole defend his
> home.
>
> HEY YOU RACIST PIECE OF FUCK! GET YOUR ASS OUT OF
> HERE WITH YR FUCKING IGNORANT ASS BULLSHIT!!
>
> p.s. I notice the race-focused jackass doesnt
> mention the dead kid, condolences, or anything
> like that at all in his thread. Is ONLY focus on
> race
>
> well....................also notice his MAIN focus
> is on that fireman's panties
>
> Guess we all know what he REALLY wants to know
> about this case LoLz
>
> pic unrelated
Speaking of panties, your's sure do seem to be in quite the wad this morning troll baby. Maybe "all your friends" here will give you another $10 LoLzzzzzzz.
.
Attachments:
-------------------------------------------------------
> @White - yeah, how DARE the asshole defend his
> home.
>
> HEY YOU RACIST PIECE OF FUCK! GET YOUR ASS OUT OF
> HERE WITH YR FUCKING IGNORANT ASS BULLSHIT!!
>
> p.s. I notice the race-focused jackass doesnt
> mention the dead kid, condolences, or anything
> like that at all in his thread. Is ONLY focus on
> race
>
> well....................also notice his MAIN focus
> is on that fireman's panties
>
> Guess we all know what he REALLY wants to know
> about this case LoLz
>
> pic unrelated
Speaking of panties, your's sure do seem to be in quite the wad this morning troll baby. Maybe "all your friends" here will give you another $10 LoLzzzzzzz.
.
Attachments:
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:03PM
>
> Speaking of panties, your's sure do seem to be in
> quite the wad this morning troll baby. Maybe "all
> your friends" here will give you another $10
> LoLzzzzzzz.
>
>
> .
Attachments:
> Speaking of panties, your's sure do seem to be in
> quite the wad this morning troll baby. Maybe "all
> your friends" here will give you another $10
> LoLzzzzzzz.
>
>
> .
Attachments:
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Jack406
()
Date: March 30, 2013 09:21PM
How do we know that the kid climbed the stairs, walked past the homeowner, and then was shot in the back?
Maybe he climbed in the window, heard the homeowner yell at him, and then turned to climb out the window and was shot in the back trying to leave the house.
Maybe after he shot him in the back trying to get out the window, the homeowner fired the warning shot to cover his ass.
Why is there no report from the police? I keep hearing they are trying to decide if they should charge someone. Would that be the homeowner? It can't be the kid who was murdered!
It might be the adult who allowed alcohol at a party for teens - if the adult was aware of the party.
Maybe he climbed in the window, heard the homeowner yell at him, and then turned to climb out the window and was shot in the back trying to leave the house.
Maybe after he shot him in the back trying to get out the window, the homeowner fired the warning shot to cover his ass.
Why is there no report from the police? I keep hearing they are trying to decide if they should charge someone. Would that be the homeowner? It can't be the kid who was murdered!
It might be the adult who allowed alcohol at a party for teens - if the adult was aware of the party.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Clobbersaurus
()
Date: March 30, 2013 09:42PM
Is the kid still dead? Just checking.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Dane Bramage
()
Date: March 30, 2013 09:54PM
Clobbersaurus Wrote:
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> Is the kid still dead? Just checking.
Easter isn't until tomorrow.
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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
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> Is the kid still dead? Just checking.
Easter isn't until tomorrow.
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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Clobbersaurus
()
Date: March 31, 2013 12:41AM
Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> Clobbersaurus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is the kid still dead? Just checking.
>
>
> Easter isn't until tomorrow.
I see what you did there.
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> Clobbersaurus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is the kid still dead? Just checking.
>
>
> Easter isn't until tomorrow.
I see what you did there.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Dame Brainless
()
Date: March 31, 2013 03:25PM
Dane Bramage Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Clobbersaurus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is the kid still dead? Just checking.
>
>
> Easter isn't until tomorrow.
Using a quote from Stephen King. Very original.
Read the book in high School?
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> Clobbersaurus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Is the kid still dead? Just checking.
>
>
> Easter isn't until tomorrow.
Using a quote from Stephen King. Very original.
Read the book in high School?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Your Neighbor
()
Date: April 01, 2013 11:53PM
Home invasion? By a thief or violet prior felon...who may be armed. NEVER happens!
Oh, except for these two last month:
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2013/032213armedmenarrested.htm
...and others.
But that scares me! It can't be true!!! I want mommy government to take care of me 24x7. I know they will be there in two seconds if I need them. I KNOW IT. JUST LIKE MOMMY. If no law abiding citizens have guns, then I'll be safe! Waaaaahhhhh! Mommy!!!!
Break into my home and you will die. Fact. Guess my house.
Oh, except for these two last month:
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2013/032213armedmenarrested.htm
...and others.
But that scares me! It can't be true!!! I want mommy government to take care of me 24x7. I know they will be there in two seconds if I need them. I KNOW IT. JUST LIKE MOMMY. If no law abiding citizens have guns, then I'll be safe! Waaaaahhhhh! Mommy!!!!
Break into my home and you will die. Fact. Guess my house.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Another badass with the keyboard
()
Date: April 02, 2013 07:17AM
Your Neighbor Wrote:
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> Home invasion? By a thief or violet prior
> felon...who may be armed. NEVER happens!
>
> Oh, except for these two last month:
>
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/
> 2013/032213armedmenarrested.htm
>
> ...and others.
>
>
>
>
> But that scares me! It can't be true!!! I want
> mommy government to take care of me 24x7. I know
> they will be there in two seconds if I need them.
> I KNOW IT. JUST LIKE MOMMY. If no law abiding
> citizens have guns, then I'll be safe!
> Waaaaahhhhh! Mommy!!!!
>
>
>
> Break into my home and you will die. Fact. Guess
> my house.
Everyone no's you are the internet rambo. Another anonymous poster who has watched to many movies and wants some attention. The time of your post reflects alot about you.
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> Home invasion? By a thief or violet prior
> felon...who may be armed. NEVER happens!
>
> Oh, except for these two last month:
>
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/
> 2013/032213armedmenarrested.htm
>
> ...and others.
>
>
>
>
> But that scares me! It can't be true!!! I want
> mommy government to take care of me 24x7. I know
> they will be there in two seconds if I need them.
> I KNOW IT. JUST LIKE MOMMY. If no law abiding
> citizens have guns, then I'll be safe!
> Waaaaahhhhh! Mommy!!!!
>
>
>
> Break into my home and you will die. Fact. Guess
> my house.
Everyone no's you are the internet rambo. Another anonymous poster who has watched to many movies and wants some attention. The time of your post reflects alot about you.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Bad choices catch up to you...
()
Date: April 02, 2013 09:06AM
Stabitha Wrote:
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> So youre in the "Oooops, I got totally hammered
> and went in the wrong house window" camp? Well
> guess what........he may have been the perfect kid
> (which I doubt) but stupid things happen to stupid
> people. And have you listened to any cRAP music
> lately? You cant be a respectful person and make
> that shit!
I don't buy the story that he was a good kid who never did anything like this before.
It reminds me of the Len Bias fiasco, and his mother/friends' claim that he never ever took drugs before THAT night. Sure , sure.
That kid probably snuck out of the house and got drunk every weekend. His friend that drove him home was probably trashed too. And when the toxicology report comes back I'm guessing he had more than just alcohol in his system.
BTW, where the hell is the toxicology report? Its been almost 2 weeks.
-------------------------------------------------------
> So youre in the "Oooops, I got totally hammered
> and went in the wrong house window" camp? Well
> guess what........he may have been the perfect kid
> (which I doubt) but stupid things happen to stupid
> people. And have you listened to any cRAP music
> lately? You cant be a respectful person and make
> that shit!
I don't buy the story that he was a good kid who never did anything like this before.
It reminds me of the Len Bias fiasco, and his mother/friends' claim that he never ever took drugs before THAT night. Sure , sure.
That kid probably snuck out of the house and got drunk every weekend. His friend that drove him home was probably trashed too. And when the toxicology report comes back I'm guessing he had more than just alcohol in his system.
BTW, where the hell is the toxicology report? Its been almost 2 weeks.
are y'all still going on about this?
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: April 02, 2013 09:30AM
why the FUCK do you need a tox report, Bad - everybody and their mother knows kid was drunk.
This story is as dead as .......................well, I'm not going there.
but GEEZ, ppl - get over it. Aint nothing more to say about this other than charging and prosecuting the ppl who gave those children alcohol and helped get one of them killed.
This story is as dead as .......................well, I'm not going there.
but GEEZ, ppl - get over it. Aint nothing more to say about this other than charging and prosecuting the ppl who gave those children alcohol and helped get one of them killed.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Now and Then
()
Date: April 02, 2013 09:50AM
I have a question, after the two friends helped this kid through the window, did they just leave? Didn't this kid that got shot notice that the interior of his house looked completely different? Was he that wasted? There are still a few questions circling around this that I think once answered will put this all to rest.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Hallucinogens?
()
Date: April 02, 2013 10:15AM
Now and Then Wrote:
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> I have a question, after the two friends helped
> this kid through the window, did they just leave?
> Didn't this kid that got shot notice that the
> interior of his house looked completely different?
> Was he that wasted? There are still a few
> questions circling around this that I think once
> answered will put this all to rest.
He also ignored the fact there was a stranger yelling at him to leave, and then shooting at him.
There's no way it was just alcohol, he was doped up on something. And it had to be something hard, there's no way weed did that.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I have a question, after the two friends helped
> this kid through the window, did they just leave?
> Didn't this kid that got shot notice that the
> interior of his house looked completely different?
> Was he that wasted? There are still a few
> questions circling around this that I think once
> answered will put this all to rest.
He also ignored the fact there was a stranger yelling at him to leave, and then shooting at him.
There's no way it was just alcohol, he was doped up on something. And it had to be something hard, there's no way weed did that.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
911 call
()
Date: April 02, 2013 12:59PM
Screw the tox report. WHERE THE HELL IS THE 911 TAPE???
Let's hear Rambo's warnings and shots.....
How many shots....where?? Details would be nice.
Hey Barney in Loudoun, get off your ass, and do your job.
Let's hear Rambo's warnings and shots.....
How many shots....where?? Details would be nice.
Hey Barney in Loudoun, get off your ass, and do your job.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Now and Then
()
Date: April 02, 2013 02:15PM
911 call Wrote:
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> Screw the tox report. WHERE THE HELL IS THE 911
> TAPE???
>
> Let's hear Rambo's warnings and shots.....
>
> How many shots....where?? Details would be nice.
>
> Hey Barney in Loudoun, get off your ass, and do
> your job.
Attachments:
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> Screw the tox report. WHERE THE HELL IS THE 911
> TAPE???
>
> Let's hear Rambo's warnings and shots.....
>
> How many shots....where?? Details would be nice.
>
> Hey Barney in Loudoun, get off your ass, and do
> your job.
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Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
stui
()
Date: April 02, 2013 09:14PM
Hallucinogens? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Now and Then Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have a question, after the two friends helped
> > this kid through the window, did they just
> leave?
> > Didn't this kid that got shot notice that the
> > interior of his house looked completely
> different?
> > Was he that wasted? There are still a few
> > questions circling around this that I think
> once
> > answered will put this all to rest.
>
> He also ignored the fact there was a stranger
> yelling at him to leave, and then shooting at
> him.
>
> There's no way it was just alcohol, he was doped
> up on something. And it had to be something hard,
> there's no way weed did that.
Im guessing LSD,PCP, or Heroin. If he were really just drunk he wouldnt have been able to sneak in window. This was either an attempted rape of 16 year old sleeping or the kid was on a bad acid trip. My guess is a combination of both.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Now and Then Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have a question, after the two friends helped
> > this kid through the window, did they just
> leave?
> > Didn't this kid that got shot notice that the
> > interior of his house looked completely
> different?
> > Was he that wasted? There are still a few
> > questions circling around this that I think
> once
> > answered will put this all to rest.
>
> He also ignored the fact there was a stranger
> yelling at him to leave, and then shooting at
> him.
>
> There's no way it was just alcohol, he was doped
> up on something. And it had to be something hard,
> there's no way weed did that.
Im guessing LSD,PCP, or Heroin. If he were really just drunk he wouldnt have been able to sneak in window. This was either an attempted rape of 16 year old sleeping or the kid was on a bad acid trip. My guess is a combination of both.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stabitha
()
Date: April 02, 2013 09:24PM
Does it seem this whole affair has been kinda swept under the rug and forgotten? I was hoping to hear the version of what happened from his cohorts who pushed him thru the wrong window.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
stui
()
Date: April 02, 2013 09:34PM
Stabitha Wrote:
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> Does it seem this whole affair has been kinda
> swept under the rug and forgotten? I was hoping to
> hear the version of what happened from his cohorts
> who pushed him thru the wrong window.
I used to get drunk and high in highschool but would never go home until fairly sober. At least I would try to throw up which usually works pretty good. This whole case stinks. Nothing makes sense. I think he wanted some sweet young white pussy upstairs. Nobody is that fucking stupid drunk to get hoisted through window of wrong house and think it is your house. I need more info from his so called friends who supposedly hoisted him in wrong house. What are they saying?
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> Does it seem this whole affair has been kinda
> swept under the rug and forgotten? I was hoping to
> hear the version of what happened from his cohorts
> who pushed him thru the wrong window.
I used to get drunk and high in highschool but would never go home until fairly sober. At least I would try to throw up which usually works pretty good. This whole case stinks. Nothing makes sense. I think he wanted some sweet young white pussy upstairs. Nobody is that fucking stupid drunk to get hoisted through window of wrong house and think it is your house. I need more info from his so called friends who supposedly hoisted him in wrong house. What are they saying?
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Drunk and stoned
()
Date: April 02, 2013 09:45PM
I never grew up with these cookie cutter homes of today but it MAY be possible given the small lots and likeness of these homes to be confused.
Given that how the hell did he go upstairs with an alarm blaring and still not realize he was in the wrong house. I guess we can chalk it up to him being a stupid young man.
Nobody every wants to kill someone. The owner of this home will never be the same.
Sad story.
Given that how the hell did he go upstairs with an alarm blaring and still not realize he was in the wrong house. I guess we can chalk it up to him being a stupid young man.
Nobody every wants to kill someone. The owner of this home will never be the same.
Sad story.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Stupid is as Stabitha does
()
Date: September 14, 2013 11:48PM
Stabitha Wrote:
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> I really dont think 230am with a burglar alarm
> sounding is the ideal time to introduce yourself
> to your neighbor.
>
> You cant fix stupid. Well, I take that back. In
> this case a bullet did!
2,893 posts in five months.
You're right about one thing. You can't fix stupid.
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> I really dont think 230am with a burglar alarm
> sounding is the ideal time to introduce yourself
> to your neighbor.
>
> You cant fix stupid. Well, I take that back. In
> this case a bullet did!
2,893 posts in five months.
You're right about one thing. You can't fix stupid.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
Oh Contrare
()
Date: September 15, 2013 04:49AM
Drunk and stoned Wrote:
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>
> Sad story.
Actually, it's pretty funny.
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>
> Sad story.
Actually, it's pretty funny.
Re: Sterling shooting
Posted by:
u9CCP
()
Date: December 04, 2016 07:39AM
C MAC Wrote:
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> I know we are in Fairfax, but does anyone know
> what the fuck happened with that kid getting shot
> to death? How many shots were fired? The kid
> apparently lived two houses down. Was he that
> wasted that he walked in someone elses door? Wasnt
> the front door locked? Something doesnt smell
> right.
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> I know we are in Fairfax, but does anyone know
> what the fuck happened with that kid getting shot
> to death? How many shots were fired? The kid
> apparently lived two houses down. Was he that
> wasted that he walked in someone elses door? Wasnt
> the front door locked? Something doesnt smell
> right.