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Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Ken (not Barbie) ()
Date: March 12, 2013 01:06PM

Good news for Fairfax's own Ken "the cooch" Cuccinelli. Bill Bolling will not mount a 3rd party - independent run for the Governor's mansion.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/03/12/bill-bolling-a-no-on-run-for-governor/?hpid=z3

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: beavis ()
Date: March 12, 2013 02:43PM

better news for the democrats.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: not for ffx general forum ()
Date: March 12, 2013 02:44PM

this does not belong in ffx general forum

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Ken (not Barbie) ()
Date: March 12, 2013 02:49PM

beavis Wrote:
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> better news for the democrats.


Nah. Polls showed Bolling hurt the cooch and would have given the election to McAuliffe. This puts the cooch back in the drivers seat and it's his election to win or lose without a 3rd party taking from his base. This is better news for Cuccinelli.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Disagree ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:03PM

not for ffx general forum Wrote:
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> this does not belong in ffx general forum


Ken is a Fairfaxian. I would also argue that a gubernatorial election has a significant impact on Fairfax considering nearly 15% of Virginia's electorate live in Fairfax County

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: webb Revisited ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:16PM

It's also relevant to Fairfax because the county will again give the Democratic candidate the margin needed to win the election.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: you failed ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:23PM

Disagree Wrote:
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> not for ffx general forum Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > this does not belong in ffx general forum
>
>
> Ken is a Fairfaxian. I would also argue that a
> gubernatorial election has a significant impact on
> Fairfax considering nearly 15% of Virginia's
> electorate live in Fairfax County

this is not what the original post was about. you're making a stretch to make this fit the category and you have failed in your meager attempt.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: you failed ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:24PM

webb Revisited Wrote:
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> It's also relevant to Fairfax because the county
> will again give the Democratic candidate the
> margin needed to win the election.


see response above.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Below_Me ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:28PM

you failed Wrote:
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> see response above.

Who failed? Do some mirror lookin', Buddy.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: move thread to Off Topic ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:30PM

Ken (not Barbie) Wrote:
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> Good news for Fairfax's own Ken "the cooch"
> Cuccinelli. Bill Bolling will not mount a 3rd
> party - independent run for the Governor's
> mansion.
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/
> 2013/03/12/bill-bolling-a-no-on-run-for-governor/?
> hpid=z3


Nice try, but no cigar for you. Just because that asshole hails from Fairfax does not make this a Fairfax General Forum worthy thread. These belong in Off Topic.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: lil bitches are catfighting ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:33PM

Let Cary decide. Arguing over what belongs in the General Forum and what is Off topic is gay.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:42PM

Not sure it really makes any difference. Convntional wisdom was that Bolling would split the Republican vote leaving McAuliffe to win with a Democratic plurality, but I think it just as likely that Bolling and McAuliffe would split the anti-Cuccinelli vote.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: nohopefordopes? ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:48PM

lil bitches are catfighting Wrote:
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> Let Cary decide. Arguing over what belongs in the
> General Forum and what is Off topic is gay.


dumb fuckers posting their wannabe pundit political shit all over ffx general affects everyone here, you nut muncher.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: lil bitches are catfighting ()
Date: March 12, 2013 03:56PM

nohopefordopes? Wrote:
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> lil bitches are catfighting Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let Cary decide. Arguing over what belongs in
> the
> > General Forum and what is Off topic is gay.
>
>
> dumb fuckers posting their wannabe pundit
> political shit all over ffx general affects
> everyone here, you nut muncher.


You are way too emotionally invested in this website if anything posted on it affects you, queer boy.

You need therapy.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: butthead ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:11PM

Ken (not Barbie) Wrote:
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> beavis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > better news for the democrats.
>
>
> Nah. Polls showed Bolling hurt the cooch and
> would have given the election to McAuliffe. This
> puts the cooch back in the drivers seat and it's
> his election to win or lose without a 3rd party
> taking from his base. This is better news for
> Cuccinelli.

the gop just lost twice running guys significantly to the left of cuccinelli. How will he attract voters that wouldn't even go for allen or romney? Especially now that he's made a name for himself as a right-wing spokesmodel.

it's mcAuliffe election to lose now. Which he could, but he'll have to be a pretty bad politician.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Below_Me ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:18PM

butthead Wrote:
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> it's mcAuliffe election to lose now. Which he
> could, but he'll have to be a pretty bad
> politician.

You never want to underestimate Terry-Boy's ability to turn a silk purse into a sow's ear.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: NDKJ3 ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:37PM

webb Revisited Wrote:
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> It's also relevant to Fairfax because the county
> will again give the Democratic candidate the
> margin needed to win the election.


That's not a good thing.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: haHAhahHa ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:43PM

Lookit these FAGS in here getting all wonky on each others dicks! Nothing but a bunch of cum gargling homos in here! Have fun sucking each other off you bunch of faggots!

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: wtfiswrongwithpeople ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:45PM

You people are stupid and so is Cuccinelli. This idiot Republican will be another Republican in a line of Republican Failures. All Mcdonnell's did was raise taxes unconstitutionally and unfairly on Norther Virginia. Now you want Mr. redistrict to disenfranchise northern Virginia and Mr. spend your time challenging the Affordable Health Care Act to the Supreme Court and Mr. Forced Ultra Sound as our fucking Governor.

The only successful Governors we've have been Democrats and now their respectable Senators held in high esteem.

I just wish you fuckers would leave my state alone and stop hindering its potential. You've done fucked up the country.

Not to mention, the Sequestor and heavy disproportional cuts affect our specific county more than anything else.

Foaming at the mouth rabid Republican dogs know not what they do. Someone stop the madness. When will the damage end.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Progressive RINO = GOP loss ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:48PM

butthead Wrote:
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>
> the gop just lost twice running guys significantly
> to the left of cuccinelli. How will he attract
> voters that wouldn't even go for allen or romney?
> Especially now that he's made a name for himself
> as a right-wing spokesmodel.
>
> it's mcAuliffe election to lose now. Which he
> could, but he'll have to be a pretty bad
> politician.

This seems to be a common misconception.

GOP candidates like Romney didn't lose because they were too far to the right, they lost because they were too far to the left. Many moderate voters didn't see much of a difference between Romney and Obama (probably correct) so better the devil you know. And many conservative voters just stayed home because they didn't want to vote for another progressive RINO.

And as far as George Allen goes...well George Allen just plain sucks. I don't know how he got the nomination because I didn't meet a single Repub that was enthusiastic about voting for him. And if the base doesn't care, why should anyone else?

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: yeahwewillsee ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:53PM

The only hope Republicans have and will ever have is if people don't vote. They are at odds with the interests of the vast majority of the nation. All they have are old white men that are mad at the world for not obeying their intention to lead the country to it's demise along with their own.

These mid terms won't be the like 2010, we're coming out, we're voting, you will experience another disappointing evening defining another four years.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: yeahwewillsee ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:55PM

And as far as George Allen goes. George Allen was a corporate funded power house. He was shown the door twice because what he and Republicans stand for these days. Over a multitude of elections now the policies of Republicans has been overwhelmingly rejected by the American people and yet you still have people proclaiming they need to double down. We will see.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: same lame dick asshole? ()
Date: March 12, 2013 04:58PM

Is this the same broke dick homo having a convo with himself pretending to be multiple posters AGAIN? Holy shit what a retard.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Date: March 12, 2013 05:01PM

Progressive RINO = GOP loss Wrote:
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> GOP candidates like Romney didn't lose because
> they were too far to the right, they lost because
> they were too far to the left.

Wrong. Mittens lost because to win the nomination, he was forced to tack so hard & far to the right that he was unable to believably regain the political center. It also made Mittens look like a flip-flopper on many issues. Of course, being caught on tape telling the truth about not giving a damn about half of the country didn't help either.
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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: badum ()
Date: March 12, 2013 05:11PM

where did he relieve himself?

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: RadicalCooch ()
Date: March 12, 2013 05:16PM

He's trying to position himself to relieve himself on us. Haven't you heard of trickle down economics?

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: beavis ()
Date: March 12, 2013 05:23PM

Progressive RINO = GOP loss Wrote:
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> butthead Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > the gop just lost twice running guys
> significantly
> > to the left of cuccinelli. How will he attract
> > voters that wouldn't even go for allen or
> romney?
> > Especially now that he's made a name for
> himself
> > as a right-wing spokesmodel.
> >
> > it's mcAuliffe election to lose now. Which he
> > could, but he'll have to be a pretty bad
> > politician.
>
> This seems to be a common misconception.
>
> GOP candidates like Romney didn't lose because
> they were too far to the right, they lost because
> they were too far to the left. Many moderate
> voters didn't see much of a difference between
> Romney and Obama (probably correct) so better the
> devil you know. And many conservative voters just
> stayed home because they didn't want to vote for
> another progressive RINO.
>
> And as far as George Allen goes...well George
> Allen just plain sucks. I don't know how he got
> the nomination because I didn't meet a single
> Repub that was enthusiastic about voting for him.
> And if the base doesn't care, why should anyone
> else?

well, i guess we'll find out. But i don't think that argument makes any sense, I don't see how the "base" can ever win an election in Va by itself, it's way too small now. Cuc has to attract others, and that's going to be a hard sell. Or the Dems have to not show-up, which isn't going too happen with Cuc running. and they will have tons of money.

McA is going to have to help him. he could;he's unproven....

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: CuccinelliWillLose ()
Date: March 12, 2013 05:29PM

Mark my words. If George Allen lost just for saying "Macaca." Cuccinelli is history.


Cuccinelli told priests to disobey the law if they don't like ObamaCare, Cuccinelli is a huge wack job with a mouth without limit. Bad combination. He'll be talking about rape and forced ultra sounds or whatever. Odd's are he'll make a fool of himself and lose out of sheer national embarrassment. If he is extremely careful and some how does become Governor the national embarrassment part will still suffice.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: ya big dummy ()
Date: March 12, 2013 05:36PM

CuccinelliWillLose Wrote:
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> Odd's are he'll make a fool
> of himself

Sort of like you? Odd's what? What does Odd possess?

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Give me a break ()
Date: March 12, 2013 07:10PM

yeahwewillsee Wrote:
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> Over a multitude of elections now
> the policies of Republicans has been
> overwhelmingly rejected by the American people and
> yet you still have people proclaiming they need to
> double down. We will see.

Two presidential elections in a row is a multitude?

You consider 50% to 47% to be "overwhelming"?

You do realize the Repubs still have a strong majority in the House right?

Give me a break. Quit parroting everything you hear the biased media say and think for yourself.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: geryrymanderer ()
Date: March 12, 2013 07:21PM

You lost by 2 million votes in the house. Gerrymandering and disenfranchising is nothing to be proud of.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Yap yap ()
Date: March 12, 2013 07:28PM

geryrymanderer Wrote:
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> You lost by 2 million votes in the house.
> Gerrymandering and disenfranchising is nothing to
> be proud of.


WTF are you talking about proggie yap dog?

Doesn't even make sense.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: The Dem Way ()
Date: March 12, 2013 07:40PM

geryrymanderer Wrote:
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> You lost by 2 million votes in the house.
> Gerrymandering and disenfranchising is nothing to
> be proud of.


+1. Massive voter fraud and voter registration fraud are things to be proud of!

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Vast majority? Uh huh. ()
Date: March 12, 2013 07:46PM

Give me a break Wrote:
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> yeahwewillsee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Over a multitude of elections now
> > the policies of Republicans has been
> > overwhelmingly rejected by the American people
> and
> > yet you still have people proclaiming they need
> to
> > double down. We will see.
>
> Two presidential elections in a row is a
> multitude?
>
> You consider 50% to 47% to be "overwhelming"?
>
> You do realize the Repubs still have a strong
> majority in the House right?
>
> Give me a break. Quit parroting everything you
> hear the biased media say and think for yourself.

Also republicans currently hold the governor's office in 30 states.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Ken (not Barbie) ()
Date: March 12, 2013 07:53PM

geryrymanderer Wrote:
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> You lost by 2 million votes in the house.
> Gerrymandering and disenfranchising is nothing to
> be proud of.


this means nothing. Obama lost the majority of House districts (thus the general view that the democrats have only a small chance of winning back the House in 2014). Because of gerrymandering, many democrat districts now vote 70% plus for democrats as republicans move out of those districts. Thus, you get places like NY and CA that skew the totals because they are voting at 70% or more for the democrat canidates.

Remember in VA in 2011 when republicans won 60% of the vote for the state senate but only tied in the number of seats. Now there's something definitely wrong there but I doubt you cared about it.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 12, 2013 09:45PM

Nice map but we don't count vote according to acreage owned. You won the farm, hill billy and inbred vote thanks for the map to prove it.

Somehow you pretend piling Democrat voters into districts with retards themselves for representatives safe from challenge and accountability is a good thing.

People is what matters sir. That's what our Democratic Republic is meant to reflect. Not man made districts for political and electoral leverage. Your comments spew a lack of principle and decency to me. I pity you and your corrupting ways. LoL. May God continue to bring shame on all those filthy scoundrel men that wish to tilt our democratic process away from the will of the people. LoL I'm not done wait. May God strike down on all whom tarnish the very fabric which has held our country unified and undeterred by not respecting the basic concept of one man and one vote.

You are grasping for anything in your last throws in the face of irreversible decline. I pity you.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: zero personality ()
Date: March 12, 2013 09:58PM

Gerrymanderer for Governor! -besides, Kenny will be too busy appealing the courts strike down of the anti-sodomy law.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: I Give Up ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:27PM

Carpetbagger vs Nutjob. Time to leave the ole commonweal' for a couple of years I guess...

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: TellerofTruth ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:39PM

It's funny how people are so blinded by party lines.

We in Virginia have benifited from the success of the current Gov.
Obama is a failure all around other than individual concerns over personal singular issue. I'm this or that, so I vote dem.
Fewer Americans put anything before themselves and this is why we are on the downhill slide.

One little example; how come every Occupy, legalize marijuana, pro-choice, Gay-Lesbian, Transgender Obama voter hasn't been screeming/protesting over his use of drones policy on Americans. Because they'd eat a sh%t sandwich if they wanted bread.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: zero personality ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:40PM

I Give Up Wrote:
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> Carpetbagger vs Nutjob. Time to leave the ole
> commonweal' for a couple of years I guess...

Terry McCauliffe has lived in McLean for 20 years. How does that make him a "carpetbagger"? -discuss
Ken Cuccinelli is a "Nutjob" -no need to discuss

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:43PM

TellerofTruth Wrote:
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> It's funny how people are so blinded by party
> lines.
>
> We in Virginia have benifited from the success of
> the current Gov.
> Obama is a failure all around other than
> individual concerns over personal singular issue.
> I'm this or that, so I vote dem.
> Fewer Americans put anything before themselves and
> this is why we are on the downhill slide.
>
> One little example; how come every Occupy,
> legalize marijuana, pro-choice, Gay-Lesbian,
> Transgender Obama voter hasn't been
> screeming/protesting over his use of drones policy
> on Americans. Because they'd eat a sh%t sandwich
> if they wanted bread.


Name the success's, just saying he has been successful doesn't make it so. I can name McDonnell's failings and the successes of his Democratic predecessors in contrast.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: I Give Up ()
Date: March 12, 2013 11:00PM

Twenty years in McLean, with half of that in the pay of the Clintons does not constitute Virginian or Virginians' best interest to me.

Don't trust or like him, and I think his agenda is just blind ambition...

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Derp de Jour ()
Date: March 12, 2013 11:08PM

Gerrymanderer Wrote:
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> Nice map but we don't count vote according to
> acreage owned. You won the farm, hill billy and
> inbred vote thanks for the map to prove it.
>
> Somehow you pretend piling Democrat voters into
> districts with retards themselves for
> representatives safe from challenge and
> accountability is a good thing.
>
> People is what matters sir. That's what our
> Democratic Republic is meant to reflect. Not man
> made districts for political and electoral
> leverage. Your comments spew a lack of principle
> and decency to me. I pity you and your corrupting
> ways. LoL. May God continue to bring shame on all
> those filthy scoundrel men that wish to tilt our
> democratic process away from the will of the
> people. LoL I'm not done wait. May God strike
> down on all whom tarnish the very fabric which has
> held our country unified and undeterred by not
> respecting the basic concept of one man and one
> vote.
>
> You are grasping for anything in your last throws
> in the face of irreversible decline. I pity you.


You're a dumbass.

First, you act like Dumbocrats haven't gerrymandered districts? lol!

Second, we never have had a a one-man, one-vote democracy. Fortunately for you since if it wasn't for NYC and coastal CA, Dems wouldn't never win any national elections.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 12, 2013 11:12PM

I'd worry about holding on to Texas and North Carolina if I were you, Virginia, Florida and Ohio seem to be a distant memory for you.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: March 12, 2013 11:25PM

The Dem Way Wrote:
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> geryrymanderer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You lost by 2 million votes in the house.
> > Gerrymandering and disenfranchising is nothing
> to
> > be proud of.
>
>
> +1. Massive voter fraud and voter registration
> fraud are things to be proud of!

It's funny, if Romney had won the election, nobody would've said a thing about voter fraud. 2000 involved quite a bit of voter fraud, but it's not politically convenient to bring that up.

Romney lost for a lot of reasons. Voter fraud was not one of them.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: To everything, turn, turn ()
Date: March 12, 2013 11:31PM

Gerrymanderer Wrote:
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> I'd worry about holding on to Texas and North
> Carolina if I were you, Virginia, Florida and Ohio
> seem to be a distant memory for you.


Not for me, I'm not dumb enough to hitch up to either party.

Everything circles around. The Dems are on their typical kids in the candy store spree at the moment. Once they've spent all of the money and keep asking for more and people start to see the cost and consequences, things will swing back the other way again. Obamacare and ignoring Medicare/Medicaid/SS will cause some very big bills to come due soon and Uncle Ben is pretty much out of cash to prop things up much more as he's done to date. If you think that the Republican Party looks like it's in rough shape now, you should have seen the Dems after Carter.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: March 12, 2013 11:48PM

To everything, turn, turn Wrote:
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> Everything circles around. The Dems are on their
> typical kids in the candy store spree at the
> moment. Once they've spent all of the money and
> keep asking for more and people start to see the
> cost and consequences, things will swing back the
> other way again. Obamacare and ignoring
> Medicare/Medicaid/SS will cause some very big
> bills to come due soon and Uncle Ben is pretty
> much out of cash to prop things up much more as
> he's done to date. If you think that the
> Republican Party looks like it's in rough shape
> now, you should have seen the Dems after Carter.

The Democrats held on to the House for Reagan's two terms. They lost control of the Senate, but never had fewer than 45 seats.

I would argue that people who vote split-ticket are idiots. You're electing people who will work against the other guy you're voting for.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Ross ()
Date: March 12, 2013 11:59PM

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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>
> The Democrats held on to the House for Reagan's
> two terms. They lost control of the Senate, but
> never had fewer than 45 seats.

And? They wouldn't get the Presidency again until Clinton. The only reason that he was elected then was because of Perot.


> I would argue that people who vote split-ticket
> are idiots. You're electing people who will work
> against the other guy you're voting for.


Disagree. It provides a limiter which keeps either party from running too far in either direction. At least in the past we could still get important things done. Which is how it should work and is much of the value of an opposition party. But you're likely too young to remember that.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Young Curmudgeon ()
Date: March 13, 2013 12:46AM

Ross Wrote:
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> And? They wouldn't get the Presidency again until
> Clinton. The only reason that he was elected then
> was because of Perot.

Mondale was a lamb for the slaughter. The DNC knew that he would be slaughtered; Reagan was too popular. Also, selecting Geraldine Ferraro didn't help his case.

> Disagree. It provides a limiter which keeps
> either party from running too far in either
> direction. At least in the past we could still
> get important things done. Which is how it should
> work and is much of the value of an opposition
> party. But you're likely too young to remember
> that.

Probably am. I study history, however. I would argue that there is some value in having a united government. The minority party still can check the majority's power. For example, in 2008, the Republicans controlled the Supreme Court and enough of the Senate to stop anything from happening. The minority does have power, just it has to know how to use it.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 13, 2013 01:31AM

The intention of our form of government with checks and balances between branches was to limit the power of any given branch and to also force the government to compromise and reach solutions through debate and dialogue. Republicans are not interested in this concept of governance.

They reserve the right to restrict the ability to govern and filibuster any attempts at legislation. They are perfectly content with the negative impact this may have in the country because it seems more comfortable for them politically to blame the current presidency for the results. Although this recently proved to be unsuccessful at the polls, they are still unable to change this failed political strategy.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Brainwashed ideologues ()
Date: March 13, 2013 02:44AM

Gerrymanderer Wrote:
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> The intention of our form of government with
> checks and balances between branches was to limit
> the power of any given branch and to also force
> the government to compromise and reach solutions
> through debate and dialogue. Republicans are not
> interested in this concept of governance.
>
> They reserve the right to restrict the ability to
> govern and filibuster any attempts at legislation.
> They are perfectly content with the negative
> impact this may have in the country because it
> seems more comfortable for them politically to
> blame the current presidency for the results.
> Although this recently proved to be unsuccessful
> at the polls, they are still unable to change this
> failed political strategy.


Bullshit. The democrats have a long record of doing exactly the same thing. Reid himself was the master of that strategy. lol

In particular, note how his approach to the issue seems to have changed with having the majority and a Dem President in office. Even then he's continued to do so in order to keep Republican motions from the floor.


REID'S FILIBUSTER RECORD

Year (Congress) Votes/Total Obstruction Rate
2012 (112-2) 6/34 17.6%
2011 (112-1) 6/33 18.2%
2010 (111-2) 9/51 17.6%
2009 (111-1) 3/35 8.6%
2008 (110-2) 16/47 34.0%
2007 (110-1) 13/57 22.8%
2006 (109-2) 11/31 35.5%
2005 (109-1) 10/19 52.6%
2004 (108-2) 12/23 52.2%
2003 (108-1) 21/22 95.5%
2002 (107-2) 7/39 17.9%
2001 (107-1) 1/19 5.3%
2000 (106-2) 7/19 36.8%
1999 (106-1) 22/32 68.8%
1998 (105-2) 6/21 28.6%
1997 (105-1) 14/23 60.9%
1996 (104-2) 23/29 79.3%
1995 (104-1) 14/21 66.7%
1994 (103-2) 2/22 9.1%
1993 (103-1) 0/20 0%
1992 (102-2) 4/28 14.3%
1991 (102-1) 5/20 25%
1990 (101-2) 8/15 53.3%
1989 (101-1) 2/9 22.2%
1988 (100-2) 2/20 10%
1987 (100-1) 1/23 4.3%
Career >> 225/712 31.6%


RECENT FILIBUSTERS

SEP 22, 2012: CLOTURE ON THE MOTION TO PROCEED AGREED TO
n to Proceed S. 352

SEP 22, 2012: CLOTURE MOTION AGREED TO
.J.Res. 11

SEP 19, 2012: CLOTURE ON THE MOTION TO PROCEED AGREED TO
n to Proceed H.J.Res. 11

SEP 11, 2012: CLOTURE MOTION AGREED TO
. 345

AUG 2, 2012: CLOTURE MOTION REJECTED
. 341

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 13, 2013 03:30AM

Now I know you Republicans have a really really tough time with facts. And I know usually you Republicans like to cover your abhorrent unprecedented actions with irrelevant disinformation. But I believe this is the chart you should refer to when determining the historic nature of the Senate filibuster and comparing it to how it used today by the Republican party.
Attachments:
chart-filibuster-maddow.jpg

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: TellerofTruth ()
Date: March 13, 2013 04:37AM

Gerrymanderer,
He has repeatedly balanced Virginia’s budget without raising taxes. That's one thing you cant say for your Dems.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 13, 2013 04:45AM

TellerofTruth Wrote:
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> Gerrymanderer,
> He has repeatedly balanced Virginia’s budget
> without raising taxes. That's one thing you cant
> say for your Dems.

That's not true. In fact he has raised multiple taxes. Especially on Northern Virginia in violation of our state constitution. These include sales, real estate and lodging taxes. Funny how you guys can't even get the facts straight with your cheap shots. Oh yeah, he also increased fee's for driving fuel efficient vehicles.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Greentech Shade ()
Date: March 13, 2013 10:33AM

Below_Me Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> butthead Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > it's mcAuliffe election to lose now. Which he
> > could, but he'll have to be a pretty bad
> > politician.
>
> You never want to underestimate Terry-Boy's
> ability to turn a silk purse into a sow's ear.


Terry shipped poential Virginia jobs to Mississippi. For a man that will run on a platform that calls for bringing jobs to VA, that isn't a good thing. Plus, there is something really shady going on at his company Greentech. Once people start digging and the facts get out there, it may very well sink his candidacy.

Tip of the iceberg:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/561607-gta-nov-2009.html#document/p8/a87238

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: From Another Liberal ()
Date: March 13, 2013 10:39AM

Greentech Shade Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Below_Me Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > butthead Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > it's mcAuliffe election to lose now. Which
> he
> > > could, but he'll have to be a pretty bad
> > > politician.
> >
> > You never want to underestimate Terry-Boy's
> > ability to turn a silk purse into a sow's ear.
>
>
> Terry shipped poential Virginia jobs to
> Mississippi. For a man that will run on a
> platform that calls for bringing jobs to VA, that
> isn't a good thing. Plus, there is something
> really shady going on at his company Greentech.
> Once people start digging and the facts get out
> there, it may very well sink his candidacy.
>
> Tip of the iceberg:
>
> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/561607-gta
> -nov-2009.html#document/p8/a87238

Ralph Nader on Terry McAuliffe:

“He threatens, he promises, he cajoles, he jokes, he charms, he intimidates. He really is not someone who should be governor and in possession of the public’s trust.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe#2004_Election

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 13, 2013 12:04PM

Oh Bob McDonnell did raise taxes? Cant dispute that? Guess we Republicans really do stand for nothing. Wrong he raised regressive taxes meant to affect the poor but I've already gone down a the road of trying to explain that one to you and not worth it. So, I know, let's just focus on Terry Mcfuckface instead. I'll say this much. Terry McAulliffe is a go getter that thinks outside the box and looks for tangible results like John Warner and Tim Kaine before him. All Cuccinelli is gonna do is pick fights for four years, fuck our state up a little and embarrass nationally an few times. Then he's gonna raise taxes on the middle class in Northern Virginia too like McDonnell and pretend he accomplished something.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Greentech Shade ()
Date: March 13, 2013 12:20PM

Gerrymanderer Wrote:
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> Oh Bob McDonnell did raise taxes? Cant dispute
> that?

Are you all there mentally? You do realize that there are multiple people posting in this thread. I didn't need to get into a pissing match with you about McDonnell raising taxes. He did raise taxes. I don't necessarily agree with you that they violate the state Constitution though.

> Guess we Republicans really do stand for
> nothing.

A broad sweeping generalization and an incorrect conclusion based upon the evidence presented. But hey, name calling is the Dem way.

> Wrong he raised regressive taxes meant to
> affect the poor but I've already gone down a the
> road of trying to explain that one to you and not
> worth it.

Actually, some of the taxes will disproprtionally be placed on the more wealthy people.

> So, I know, let's just focus on Terry
> Mcfuckface instead. I'll say this much. Terry
> McAulliffe is a go getter that thinks outside the
> box and looks for tangible results like John
> Warner and Tim Kaine before him. All Cuccinelli is
> gonna do is pick fights for four years, fuck our
> state up a little and embarrass nationally an few
> times.

Good money says you didn't read the documents. They don't paint McCaulliffe in a very flattering light. There is something rotten in Denmark about this new company of his. I think the voters deserve to know if his company is a scam or not.

> Then he's gonna raise taxes on the middle
> class in Northern Virginia too like McDonnell and
> pretend he accomplished something.

Tying Cuccinelli to McDonnell is a weak exercise. Cuccinelli opposed the transportation plan.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Gerrymanderer ()
Date: March 13, 2013 12:41PM

Cuccinelli opposes the McDonnell Transportation Plan just like McDonnell opposed raising taxes when he was running for Governor. I understand.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Greentech Shade ()
Date: March 13, 2013 12:46PM

Gerrymanderer Wrote:
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> I understand.


You can fit what you undertand on the head of a pin. You havemore than made that clear here. Tell us what McAulliffe stand for....

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: Talking Pointus Interuptus ()
Date: March 13, 2013 02:37PM

Gerrymanderer Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Now I know you Republicans have a really really
> tough time with facts. And I know usually you
> Republicans like to cover your abhorrent
> unprecedented actions with irrelevant
> disinformation. But I believe this is the chart
> you should refer to when determining the historic
> nature of the Senate filibuster and comparing it
> to how it used today by the Republican party.


Your graph, like most of the rest of your crap, is bogus.

Here are better breakdowns with actual back-up from the Brennan Center, which certainly is not a conservative source.

http://www.brennancenter.org/publication/curbing-filibuster-abuse#graphs

The low percentage of passage has been on a continuing decline for many years. You can clearly see the effect of Reid's use of the filibuster during Bush's first term. This newly claimed "obstructionist" BS on the part of Republicans amounts to only a few percent difference and is roughly in line with the overall trend since the rules were changed. The fact is that, given the new rules, both parties have increasingly taken advantage of what is for the minority a more effective way to exert its influence, and, overall, the Senate has been an increasingly less productive place generally prior to blaming the current minority.


Filibuster_graph1.png


The largest jump came during the 110th Congress prior to Obama's term, mostly due to Reid's actions.


Filibuster_graph2.png


You can see the same as used to block Bush's judicial appointments.


Filibuster_graph5.png


A further primary reason for the increased number of filibusters during Reid's leadership is him not permitting minority amendments to any bills, which is the primary case where it has been employed.


Filibuster_graph7.png


If you want somebody to blame for increased use of the filibuster, then you don't have to look any further than Reid himself.

And, once again, your uninformed blind partisan talking point BS gets shot down by facts.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: 4GP9c ()
Date: December 03, 2016 02:18PM

Ken (not Barbie) Wrote:
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> Good news for Fairfax's own asshole Ken "the cooch"
> Cuccinelli. Bill Bolling will not mount a 3rd party
> independent run for the Governor's mansion.

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Re: Cuccinelli relieved
Posted by: V ()
Date: September 08, 2020 05:11PM

Gerrymanderer Wrote:
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> Nice map but we don't count vote according to
> acreage owned. You won the farm, hill billy and
> inbred vote thanks for the map to prove it.
>
> Somehow you pretend piling Democrat voters into
> districts with retards themselves for
> representatives safe from challenge and
> accountability is a good thing.
>
> People is what matters sir. That's what our
> Democratic Republic is meant to reflect. Not man
> made districts for political and electoral
> leverage. Your comments spew a lack of principle
> and decency to me. I pity you and your corrupting
> ways. LoL. May God continue to bring shame on all
> those filthy scoundrel men that wish to tilt our
> democratic process away from the will of the
> people. LoL I'm not done wait. May God strike
> down on all whom tarnish the very fabric which has
> held our country unified and undeterred by not
> respecting the basic concept of one man and one
> vote.
>
> You are grasping for anything in your last throws
> in the face of irreversible decline. I pity you.

The first post of the most glorious Gerrymanderer2. Gerry for Governor!

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