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Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: CrashBandakoot ()
Date: March 11, 2013 10:34PM

I66EB PRI TP rt50
six PTs / FFX PD OFFICER iNVOLVED

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: engirsh ()
Date: March 11, 2013 10:45PM

I-66 Eastbound Puerto Rican Immigrant Toilet Paper Route 50
Six Chrysler PT Cruisers and an FCPD Officer involved?

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: ffx yuppie //m5 ()
Date: March 11, 2013 10:51PM

I-66 Eastbound Paleontological Research Institution Route 50
Six post traumatic Somalians, Fairfax county police department officer involved

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: wowsers ()
Date: March 11, 2013 11:00PM

**Fairfax County**
Fairfax
Box : 4001
Channel : 4 Charlie
Call : Accident with Injuries
Location : I-66 EB, Prior to Rt.50
Details : Six Pts, Ffx P.D. Officer Involved
Command : BC403
Time : 22:31

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: wowsers ()
Date: March 11, 2013 11:00PM


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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: Dispatch 3432 ()
Date: March 11, 2013 11:07PM

I66 Eastbound Pedestrians Resisting Interrogation Taser Pronto Route 50
Six Persons Tasered / Fairfax County Police Officer Involved

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: 9uhyy ()
Date: March 11, 2013 11:13PM

I heard an officer almost got hit while doing a routine stop.

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: March 12, 2013 05:31AM

http://www.wtop.com/149/3247712/Local-officer-child-injured-in-Monday-night-crash

Sounds like FCPD was on a traffic stop and someone was rubbernecking.

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: CuriousJorge ()
Date: March 12, 2013 12:27PM

So many questions..



Do we have pics of this Dianna Holloway? Facebook links?

Have we ruled out the possibility that fisting is involved?

Is the cop car ok?

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Fairfax County Cops try to buy off the press with kiddie rides
Posted by: Gunnardeed ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:11PM

A journalist should report that the Fairfax County cops arrested 2,600 people for drunk driving last year. That is what a journalist should do. The role of the press, after all, is to report issues that need attention. But the role of the press is also to publicly hold government leaders accountable to the people and that can’t be done if government is using the media as a tool for its own self-praise or if individuals in government are using the press as a means of self-promotion to advance their career, to say, police chief as an example.
The other vital role the press plays in a free society is to educate citizens so they can make informed decisions on pertinent issues and this is done by asking questions. As an example, in regard to the drunk driving story, a good journalist will ask, “How many of those arrests resulted in conviction?” because Fairfax County cops justify themselves through a body count. A good journalist would also ask:
“In how many of those cases did the cop fail to show up in court?"
“And how many of those cases were simply tossed out of court?”
“Who was stopped? White people? Black people? Asians? Latinos? ”
The good journalist should examine that side of the issue because racial profiling by the police is a serious national issue.
The good journalist would also put the arrests in perspective. There are about 5,600,000 people in the greater Washington DC Area and in one year Fairfax County police arrested 0.0004 of them for drunk driving. In a county of 1,200,000 citizens, the 2600 arrests would total less than 0.002% of the population.
Drunk driving arrests are down 2.5 nationwide in 2011 and 2012. In fact, in the past two decades drunk driving fatalities have declined by 35% in the general population and almost 60% in the teen driver population.
So with those facts in mind, facts that were not covered in the story, why were there so many Fairfax cops trying to arrest drunk drivers on a recent Saturday night, enough so that “the lights atop Fairfax County Police Department cruisers along Leesburg Pike lit up the night sky like swarms of blue fireflies".
Poor management seems to be the answer. Shouldn't the cops be doing something more productive and less intrusive to the community? (A community where less than 9% of the force lives.)
The summation of the drunk driving story appeared to be one of two things; one that the story was that drunk driving is a non-issue because arrests for drunk driving are down. So what was the point of reporting this story at all?
The other slant may have been a cop glorification feature piece which was based on the baseless claim by the Fairfax County Police that they lowered drunk driving in the county through sobriety checkpoints, directed patrols and business compliance checks.
The problem is that slant discounts reality based on the facts above.
But there was a story here if the journalist had taken it one step further, one step into the uncomfortable, and had asked the cops (and thereby the reading public) if they see any danger in randomly stopping citizens to find out what they can be arrested for.
A journalist should ask if those random “sobriety checkpoints” touted by the Fairfax County cops, have a place in a democratic society. Should cops be stopping people they suspect of committing a crime based on magical and slightly scary “sixth sense” as one cop claimed to have, when it comes to spotting drunk drivers?
Even more disturbing than that is the fact that the cop in question has an engineering degree from Virginia Tech but would have to work the third shift in a bedroom community “sensing” drunks on the road.
The journalist could have asked the obvious question…..if drunk driving barely scratches the judicial surface then why are the cops turning out in force to address this secondary issue. This could have led to two very obvious answers, both are generally assumed to be true by the general public. One is that the cops are bored and don’t have much else to do and the other is money. Drunk driving fines range from $250 to $1,000, ($625 average fine X 2600 fines=$1,625,000). All of that revenue is poured into the county coffers and eventually into the behemoth budget of the Fairfax County Police.

Is there any truth to this commonly held rumor? We don’t know because the reporter failed to go that far. However, we do know that the cop who would rather work nights has a “lucky flower” in the car's visor.
Move over Carl Bernstein, there’s a new gunslinger in these here parts.
But it was Bernstein who said it best. The reporter’s job is to "achieve the best obtainable version of the truth" and, I would add, the best obtainable version of the truth for the public’s good and not for the benefit of the government’s profile. It is crucial that the press be an outsider and never, ever, under any circumstances share the same aims as government, the legislature, religion or commerce. The only responsibility the reporter has is to their own standards and ethics. This is no small thing because the free press is part of a larger right of free expression, a right that the public assumes that the press will help to protect.
So in that light, a good journalist would ask “Is this story free PR for cops at the expense of the free press?” And if the answer, even vaguely, appears to be “yes” then that is a very serious infringement on the role of the press in a free society and should not be taken lightly, no matter how innocuous the story.
The craft of reporting, and it is a craft, is found in the reporter's ability to research, to ask questions, to observe, to sift through self –serving propaganda disguised as news and then to place it in context so that the public can evaluate where the truth is. All of that makes the reporter the community's witness to the process of government. Crossing the line makes the reporter part of the government. So what was this drunk driver story?
The press is a powerful instrument which must exist independently from the other main centers of power in society because, among other things, it is often in the best interests of those other power centers to control or quash the press.
This rule of separation is especially true in dealing with the well-heeled Fairfax County Police Department, which is widely considered to be the least transparent law enforcement agency in the state of Virginia. The Fairfax County Police have failed, repeatedly, to show that they understand the simple truth that the free flow of information is a civic responsibility because information, even when it makes a department look bad, is the fuel of democracy. Instead, the department has mastered the art of avoiding public scrutiny by simply refusing to deal with the press….unless the press wants to do a fluff & kisses piece about them. And that’s what is wrong with plopping down the non-issue drunk driving feature piece. Reporting balanced news is vital to the health and well-being of a democracy as is the cop’s responsibility to inform the public that pays them. When journalists start backsliding down that very slippery slope by writing glory stories when the cops don’t deserve it, it is dangerous, unethical and sets a very bad precedent.
It’s about integrity. If the reporter loses their integrity they have lost everything and they have lost it forever, for themselves and their publication and it is easy to lose integrity because the damn thing about a free press is that the fight to keep the press free never ends. Rather it is a battle that is never won because the prize is much too valuable for other powers not to want to control it and to manipulate it. And those battles to keep the free press free are rarely epic, rather they are tiny skirmishes, say, as an example, a police department noted for playing a one sided game, trying to get a local reporter to skim over the facts and avoid the comfortable questions and write what they want to see in print.

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Fairfax County Cops got your money
Posted by: Gunnar deed ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:13PM

Stuck in traffic because we don’t have enough roads? No, you’re stuck in traffic because the cops got your road improvement money.

The cops in McLean spent $20,000,000 of your money...…money that won’t go to schools or road improvements or a library……because they wanted to make a few improvements to their office space. Twenty million dollars’ worth of improvement. Constructing a new building would have cost less.

“The roof has been leaking for years and we don’t have anywhere to park our cruisers,” said Supreme Allied Commander Janickey.

Leaky roofs? Oh come on. The red necks you hire never knew a roof didn’t leak until they came way north to Fairfax County. How do you think they got water into the house?

When we in the non-millionaire class have a leaky roof we don’t build a new $20,000,000 home. We repair the roof. You call a roof guy, he shows up with a hammer or something and closes the leaks and you pay him.

So are we clear, Mister Howl? You repair the roof you don’t build a new building. I don’t care what “That’s Gerry with G Dearie” Hyland told you.

The second “good” reason Commander Spendthrift has to build a $20, 000, 000 addition to the existing police station (while salivating at the possibility of building a second station a few blocks away) is parking.

That’s right. There is a parking shortage at red neck central so the morons are spending $20, 000,000 of your money on their home improvements.

“We don’t have anywhere to park our cruisers” Super Commandant Janickey whined.

Well, just park like you do at home back in Prince William County where almost 90% of you live….park on the front lawn next to the ole truck up on cinder blocks that don’t still work no how.

Star Fleet Commander Janickey apparently thinks we are all blind and can’t see through the open chain link fence around the McLean police station with its half empty parking lot and two dozen unused police cars sitting idly within.

Want more room in your half empty lot? Get rid of the two dozen cop cars you don’t use, that’ll give you room in your parking lot. Here’s another idea to make more room. Get rid of some of the 180 people you have on staff. You could get by with half that number of people on staff and you know it.

Since this is obviously a case of the police out of control we went straight to the bastion of control in Fairfax County, the board of supervisors.

“If I had a backbone, I’d stand up to these cops” said McLean area Supervisor John W. Foust “instead I’m going to pretend this isn’t an outrage and pray it goes away. If it doesn’t we’ll just toss more money at it until it does go away.”

“And I’ll be there to catch it,” said Sharon “show me the money” Bulova, although no one asked her.

“Of course they can have two new police stations and twenty four new cops for a crime problem that doesn’t exist!” said Supervisor “Gerry with G” Hyland. “Money is not an issue. I have spent my entire life in government and in those many years of avoiding real work I have learned that when you need more money you simply send someone out to the magic money tree to get it. And that’s exactly what we’ll do here. The people should kneel before the police to show how grateful they are. I’m always on my knees when it comes to the cops.”

In other words, the board of supervisors, the people you elected to protect your interests, have nothing to say on the issue.

So as you sit in traffic, late for everything and burning gas remember the words of Commander and Spend Janickey who said, “It’s a good time to be at the McLean station.” And he’s right. Life for your local police is very, very good.

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: Big Dog ()
Date: March 12, 2013 10:44PM

Sorry got lost in your bs ur complaining about the mclean stationgeting a new roof or up date when the op was about a cop making a traffic stop and then getting hit by a drunk, mom with 2 kids in the car.

Ref cars in the parking lot I doubt that all of the shifts are on the street at the same time so guessing those extra cars are just that...cops not on the street but maybe working the overnight or mornings.

180 people on staff guessing three shifts 7 days a week what 20 plus guys on a shift i doubt that 180 people work in the building cops don't work out of the stations any more.

as for The cops in McLean spent $20,000,000 of your money...…money that won’t go to schools or road improvements or a library... guessing you forgot that all that money was on some bond referendum that you probably didn't show up to vote for or against.

Now quit your bitchin and go back to your video games and next time you see a cop or military troop thank them for their service.

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: response ()
Date: March 13, 2013 12:18PM

You should have someone write that in English for you, it would probably be very moving

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: Anderson Cooper ()
Date: March 13, 2013 12:56PM

CuriousJorge Wrote:
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> So many questions..
>
>
>
> Do we have pics of this Dianna Holloway? Facebook
> links?
>
> Have we ruled out the possibility that fisting is
> involved?
>
> Is the cop car ok?

Did the Toyota driver get away without being ticketed? Is he able to sue Fairfax Co and the officer since the squad car hit the Toyota? Did he ask for Ashcraft & Gerel at the moment of impact?

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Re: Fairfax County Cops try to buy off the press with kiddie rides
Posted by: Terrence Tirade ()
Date: March 13, 2013 01:56PM

Gunnardeed Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> A journalist should report that the Fairfax County
> cops arrested 2,600 people for drunk driving last
> year. That is what a journalist should do. The
> role of the press, after all, is to report issues
> that need attention. But the role of the press is
> also to publicly hold government leaders
> accountable to the people and that can’t be done
> if government is using the media as a tool for its
> own self-praise or if individuals in government
> are using the press as a means of self-promotion
> to advance their career, to say, police chief as
> an example.
> The other vital role the press plays in a free
> society is to educate citizens so they can make
> informed decisions on pertinent issues and this is
> done by asking questions. As an example, in regard
> to the drunk driving story, a good journalist will
> ask, “How many of those arrests resulted in
> conviction?” because Fairfax County cops justify
> themselves through a body count. A good journalist
> would also ask:
> “In how many of those cases did the cop fail to
> show up in court?"
> “And how many of those cases were simply tossed
> out of court?”
> “Who was stopped? White people? Black people?
> Asians? Latinos? ”
> The good journalist should examine that side of
> the issue because racial profiling by the police
> is a serious national issue.
> The good journalist would also put the arrests in
> perspective. There are about 5,600,000 people in
> the greater Washington DC Area and in one year
> Fairfax County police arrested 0.0004 of them for
> drunk driving. In a county of 1,200,000 citizens,
> the 2600 arrests would total less than 0.002% of
> the population.
> Drunk driving arrests are down 2.5 nationwide in
> 2011 and 2012. In fact, in the past two decades
> drunk driving fatalities have declined by 35% in
> the general population and almost 60% in the teen
> driver population.
> So with those facts in mind, facts that were not
> covered in the story, why were there so many
> Fairfax cops trying to arrest drunk drivers on a
> recent Saturday night, enough so that “the
> lights atop Fairfax County Police Department
> cruisers along Leesburg Pike lit up the night sky
> like swarms of blue fireflies".
> Poor management seems to be the answer. Shouldn't
> the cops be doing something more productive and
> less intrusive to the community? (A community
> where less than 9% of the force lives.)
> The summation of the drunk driving story appeared
> to be one of two things; one that the story was
> that drunk driving is a non-issue because arrests
> for drunk driving are down. So what was the point
> of reporting this story at all?
> The other slant may have been a cop glorification
> feature piece which was based on the baseless
> claim by the Fairfax County Police that they
> lowered drunk driving in the county through
> sobriety checkpoints, directed patrols and
> business compliance checks.
> The problem is that slant discounts reality based
> on the facts above.
> But there was a story here if the journalist had
> taken it one step further, one step into the
> uncomfortable, and had asked the cops (and
> thereby the reading public) if they see any danger
> in randomly stopping citizens to find out what
> they can be arrested for.
> A journalist should ask if those random
> “sobriety checkpoints” touted by the Fairfax
> County cops, have a place in a democratic
> society. Should cops be stopping people they
> suspect of committing a crime based on magical and
> slightly scary “sixth sense” as one cop
> claimed to have, when it comes to spotting drunk
> drivers?
> Even more disturbing than that is the fact that
> the cop in question has an engineering degree from
> Virginia Tech but would have to work the third
> shift in a bedroom community “sensing” drunks
> on the road.
> The journalist could have asked the obvious
> question…..if drunk driving barely scratches the
> judicial surface then why are the cops turning out
> in force to address this secondary issue. This
> could have led to two very obvious answers, both
> are generally assumed to be true by the general
> public. One is that the cops are bored and
> don’t have much else to do and the other is
> money. Drunk driving fines range from $250 to
> $1,000, ($625 average fine X 2600
> fines=$1,625,000). All of that revenue is poured
> into the county coffers and eventually into the
> behemoth budget of the Fairfax County Police.
>
> Is there any truth to this commonly held rumor? We
> don’t know because the reporter failed to go
> that far. However, we do know that the cop who
> would rather work nights has a “lucky flower”
> in the car's visor.
> Move over Carl Bernstein, there’s a new
> gunslinger in these here parts.
> But it was Bernstein who said it best. The
> reporter’s job is to "achieve the best
> obtainable version of the truth" and, I would add,
> the best obtainable version of the truth for the
> public’s good and not for the benefit of the
> government’s profile. It is crucial that the
> press be an outsider and never, ever, under any
> circumstances share the same aims as government,
> the legislature, religion or commerce. The only
> responsibility the reporter has is to their own
> standards and ethics. This is no small thing
> because the free press is part of a larger right
> of free expression, a right that the public
> assumes that the press will help to protect.
> So in that light, a good journalist would ask
> “Is this story free PR for cops at the expense
> of the free press?” And if the answer, even
> vaguely, appears to be “yes” then that is a
> very serious infringement on the role of the press
> in a free society and should not be taken lightly,
> no matter how innocuous the story.
> The craft of reporting, and it is a craft, is
> found in the reporter's ability to research, to
> ask questions, to observe, to sift through self
> –serving propaganda disguised as news and then
> to place it in context so that the public can
> evaluate where the truth is. All of that makes the
> reporter the community's witness to the process
> of government. Crossing the line makes the
> reporter part of the government. So what was this
> drunk driver story?
> The press is a powerful instrument which must
> exist independently from the other main centers of
> power in society because, among other things, it
> is often in the best interests of those other
> power centers to control or quash the press.
> This rule of separation is especially true in
> dealing with the well-heeled Fairfax County Police
> Department, which is widely considered to be the
> least transparent law enforcement agency in the
> state of Virginia. The Fairfax County Police have
> failed, repeatedly, to show that they understand
> the simple truth that the free flow of information
> is a civic responsibility because information,
> even when it makes a department look bad, is the
> fuel of democracy. Instead, the department has
> mastered the art of avoiding public scrutiny by
> simply refusing to deal with the press….unless
> the press wants to do a fluff & kisses piece about
> them. And that’s what is wrong with plopping
> down the non-issue drunk driving feature piece.
> Reporting balanced news is vital to the health and
> well-being of a democracy as is the cop’s
> responsibility to inform the public that pays
> them. When journalists start backsliding down that
> very slippery slope by writing glory stories when
> the cops don’t deserve it, it is dangerous,
> unethical and sets a very bad precedent.
> It’s about integrity. If the reporter loses
> their integrity they have lost everything and they
> have lost it forever, for themselves and their
> publication and it is easy to lose integrity
> because the damn thing about a free press is that
> the fight to keep the press free never ends.
> Rather it is a battle that is never won because
> the prize is much too valuable for other powers
> not to want to control it and to manipulate it.
> And those battles to keep the free press free are
> rarely epic, rather they are tiny skirmishes, say,
> as an example, a police department noted for
> playing a one sided game, trying to get a local
> reporter to skim over the facts and avoid the
> comfortable questions and write what they want to
> see in print.


Dudde, just pay your ticket , get over it and quit hating, thats 20 minutes of your life you aint getting back.

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Re: Another significant car crash involving FCPD
Posted by: Stephen ()
Date: March 14, 2013 12:28PM

Time for people to email their delegate and demand these drunks be taken off the road for life.

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