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Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: February 10, 2013 09:00AM

I remember a threat to post the IP addresses of the posters in some threads, presumably to out people that were playing different roles in the thread.

Reading someone arguing with or fellating themselves doesn't do much for the site.

Is there some way to identify unique posters without displaying personally identifying information?

One idea I have is a hash of the IP address in the message header. It can correlate postings to a single address without giving up the address itself.

Like anything on the internet, there's a way around it. It takes a level of knowledge and effort that may keep the amateurs and uninspired from doing it.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: HASHID ()
Date: February 10, 2013 09:22AM

The IPs are already located in each post for the administrator of the forum to see. I personally don't see what the advantage would be to the community/users of this forum to see a unique identifier or HASHID for anonymous users to know which anonymous user is a duplicate of another.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: You dont? ()
Date: February 10, 2013 09:30AM

You gotta be fuckin kidding me you dont?

People literally are starting troll threads, then pretending to be a stereotypic character of the troll subject to make their case. Its classic Hannity and Colmes strategy.

For instance.

OP
Black people keep stealing all of my money with their welfare and food stamps.


INYERHOOD
Shut up OP, Imma take yer Moneyz and smokes my cracks

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: You did and you didn't ()
Date: February 10, 2013 09:36AM

GRAMMAR POLICE
There is only one m in Imma. Thank you for your support.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: Olde Farte, II ()
Date: February 10, 2013 09:37AM

As an unregistered multiple ID poster I have no problem with an irreversible hash of my IP being posted along with my varied posts. If it is unknown that the hash is perfect (never a duplicate hash for different IPs) then a caveat accompanying the hashed IP saying something clearly to that effect might be suggested.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: Olde Farte, II ()
Date: February 10, 2013 09:47AM

Ahem...w.r.t. that last post of mine...and on second thought...

Since there are a limited number of IP addresses and it would mot be impossible to imagine crazies hashing every single one of them to try to match hashed value to IP, perhaps a seed for the hashing algorithm should be kept 'secret" OR the hashed value used to index a "secret" table containing a contrived ID that has nothing to do with the hashed value.

Or something.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: post message ()
Date: February 10, 2013 10:43AM

post message 1

post message 2

post message 3


would that include wnrsm various aliases

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: SiriusB ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:02PM

I guess folks will be converging now on all the libraries to try and root out all the regulars who like two levels of anonymity to do their trolling and posting, not to speak of all the group homes with 20-30 users to each working computer. Good luck with that one!

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: faggot police ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:08PM

wnrsm Wrote:
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> I remember a threat to post the IP addresses of
> the posters in some threads, presumably to out
> people that were playing different roles in the
> thread.
>
> Reading someone arguing with or fellating
> themselves doesn't do much for the site.
>
> Is there some way to identify unique posters
> without displaying personally identifying
> information?
>
> One idea I have is a hash of the IP address in the
> message header. It can correlate postings to a
> single address without giving up the address
> itself.
>
> Like anything on the internet, there's a way
> around it. It takes a level of knowledge and
> effort that may keep the amateurs and uninspired
> from doing it.
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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:11PM

You dont? Wrote:
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> You gotta be fuckin kidding me you dont?
>
> People literally are starting troll threads, then
> pretending to be a stereotypic character of the
> troll subject to make their case. Its classic
> Hannity and Colmes strategy.
>
> For instance.
>
> OP
> Black people keep stealing all of my money with
> their welfare and food stamps.
>
>
> INYERHOOD
> Shut up OP, Imma take yer Moneyz and smokes my
> cracks


just outta curiosty - when has this actually happened? link us a thread, bro!

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:22PM

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2013 12:45AM by chuckhoffmann.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: M5 yuppie ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:31PM

I will be lucky to see embedding enabled again in my lifetime, no way IP hashes will happen.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: "He's pissed!" ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:40PM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > just outta curiosty - when has this actually
> > happened? link us a thread, bro!
>
> It's happened in the West Springfield High arrest
> [3 arrested in child pornography case] thread at
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/108
> 5735.html. Cary marked the 30 (!) posts in that
> thread from a FiOS user with an edit notice that
> the poster was spreading misinformation, and in
> some of the post you can clearly see the user is
> responding to other messages he himself created.
>
> That being said, I think that a "hide all messages
> from this poster" option which was keyed to the
> user's IP address would be a much more useful
> feature than simply hashing an IP address.
> However, I can say with a fair amount of certainty
> that Cary will implement neither.
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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: February 10, 2013 12:41PM

@chuck - thanks =) missed that in all the hub-bub

and yeah, I agree - I cant see Cary wanting to violate the anonymity part of this site.................

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: February 10, 2013 11:54PM

How about a serial number for the IP address instead of a hash?

Every unique IP address increments the counter by one. The arbitrary nature of IP addresses coming in and those addresses not being disclosed will prevent direct association with the actual IP address.

Another thing it could prevent... someone using the same name as an unregistered OP.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: 11111111111 ()
Date: February 11, 2013 03:41AM

wnrsm Wrote:
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> How about a serial number for the IP address
> instead of a hash?
>
> Every unique IP address increments the counter by
> one. The arbitrary nature of IP addresses coming
> in and those addresses not being disclosed will
> prevent direct association with the actual IP
> address.
>
> Another thing it could prevent... someone using
> the same name as an unregistered OP.

The whole point of ffxu is to be 100% anonymous. DUh

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: Olde Farte, II ()
Date: February 11, 2013 08:38AM

11111111111 Wrote:
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> The whole point of ffxu is to be 100% anonymous.
> DUh

Anonymity is not violated by associating the same posting address to different IDs.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: February 11, 2013 08:39AM

11111111111 Wrote:


>
> The whole point of ffxu is to be 100% anonymous.
> DUh


+1

Some posters don't realize they are arguing with themselves. LOL
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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: February 11, 2013 03:36PM

I'm not challenging anonymity. I'm challenging the ability for a single anonymous poster to appear to be many different anonymous posters.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: 11111111111 ()
Date: February 11, 2013 03:38PM

wnrsm Wrote:
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> I'm not challenging anonymity. I'm challenging
> the ability for a single anonymous poster to
> appear to be many different anonymous posters.

I see what you mean. That doesn't affect anonymity at all!

Sorry about crudely saying "duh" earlier. I think this is a great idea. Everybody that opposes it is an asshole AND a moron - a dangerous combination.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: 22222222222 ()
Date: February 11, 2013 03:38PM

I think the OP is an awesome human being.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: ffxRULZ ()
Date: February 11, 2013 03:39PM

That's the best idea I've heard since they banned Miz.

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Re: Cary - How hard would it be to create IP hashes?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: February 11, 2013 03:40PM

Thanks for the genuine support.


Oh wait, I need to wait around for a few hours before replying to myself.

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