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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Nope ()
Date: February 04, 2013 07:00PM

Good one. Since you're so informed, can you please clarify what most girls expect to be doing going to a male friends house in the middle of the night and drinking? News flash: it's a lot easier for an embarrassed teenage girl to play a victim than admitting to her shocked parents that she had sex at such a young age.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: FIVE YEARS ()
Date: February 04, 2013 07:02PM

According to Title 18, Chapter 110, Section 2552A (6), a minor can be charged because he or she “knowingly distributes, offers, sends, or provides to a minor any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, where such visual depiction is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.”

As previously mentioned, such charges carry a minimum sentence of five years in a federal prison. Additionally, if a minor has been convicted of such charges on a previous case, the punishments will be more severe.

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I wonder if these punks will be calling these girls whores in court, as they are looking at FIVE YEARS in the slammer.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Commenter one ()
Date: February 04, 2013 07:04PM

How about everyone stop making accusations before all the information is out and available until passing judgemement. What you think you know does not matter only the actual facts matter, so please wait until after the trial and investigation are complete before you attack anyone.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Fuck you loser! ()
Date: February 04, 2013 09:07PM

Eric Speer thought he was such a tough guy....FUCKING LOSER. He was bound to ruin his life eventually. This is a kid that said something like "I think I used to be a 23 year old black man selling crack to middle schoolers." Lol I'd love to hear that bitch drop the wigger act now that shit is "real." Eh, maybe his parents will put up enough money to get him out of it like the Renzis or the Abassis. Go to hell Eric

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Parentb ()
Date: February 04, 2013 10:00PM

Letter from the Principal
Dear WSHS Parents & Guardians, Many of you may have heard through various news reports over the weekend that several West Springfield High School students were arrested here at school on January 11 in connection with their involvement in a child exploitation case. As this is an ongoing police investigation, we are directing all questions about the arrests to Fairfax County Police. I want to be very clear that while arrests were made here at school the students did not engage in any of these alleged behaviors at school or during school hours. The charges that are pending all revolve around alleged inappropriate activity that occurred outside of school over an extended period of time.

The allegations were first brought to the attention of School Resource Officer Plazio in November and the police investigation was subsequently launched. Our task is to maintain business as usual at WSHS. We are here to care for and educate all our students. I want to express my regrets that our school was dragged into this story. The reports clearly do not reflect the positive learning environment that students, parents and staff have created at our school. Thank you for your continued support of WSHS.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Wshs spartan student ()
Date: February 04, 2013 10:31PM

Ben Armstrong wasn't involved. The kids who were involved are Andrew cox, Eric Speer, and Tyler Uhlman. The only one I feel bad about is Tyler because he really is a good guy he just has trouble making the right decisions. The girl's involved knew exactly what was happening and some of them even kept coming back so I feel no remorse for the ones who did. It's also ironic that the one's suing them are the ones who continued to "hang out" with them for several weekends straight. However, these video tapes were never distributed, only a few of their friends saw them and everyone else just talked about them.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Judge Jury Executioner ()
Date: February 04, 2013 10:41PM

Wshs spartan student Wrote:
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> Ben Armstrong wasn't involved. The kids who were
> involved are Andrew cox, Eric Speer, and Tyler
> Uhlman. The only one I feel bad about is Tyler
> because he really is a good guy he just has
> trouble making the right decisions. The girl's
> involved knew exactly what was happening and some
> of them even kept coming back so I feel no remorse
> for the ones who did. It's also ironic that the
> one's suing them are the ones who continued to
> "hang out" with them for several weekends
> straight. However, these video tapes were never
> distributed, only a few of their friends saw them
> and everyone else just talked about them.





Blah blah blah. Sorry kid, they are all scumbags. Hang em!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Wshs spartan student ()
Date: February 04, 2013 10:48PM

@judge Jury Executioner: that's probably the most pathetic thing I've ever heard. Do you realize what century we are in? We don't hang rapists anymore, what we need to do is give them a chance to reform and if not, they must deal with the consequences of their actions. You need to educate yourself before you speak.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Student ()
Date: February 04, 2013 10:52PM

First off I just want to say almost all of you are possibly the most ignorant group of people I have ever witnessed in one place. I think everyone would appreciate it if you were to just simply get your heads out of your asses and stop listening to every little lie the media tells you.

Some facts..
-these were in no fact rapes. First off all girls gave consent to having sex, second most occurances were done at the boys houses so the girls had to willingly travel, third these girls all new about the videos either before, during or afterwards. Basically meaning, and realize these videos were shot 6-12 months ago, they had all the time in the world to complain about rape, abuse, etc but they didn't because they didn't mind.
-alcohol was the only drug involved. There was no marijuana or roofies present. Plus both girls and guys were and had been drinking.
-no girls were unconscious during any acts of sexual intercourse. Yes they were all heavily intoxicated but the boys were as well.

Now I get it, everyone here is all high and mighty and WSHS is simply full of degenerates that will account for nothing in their of so shitty lives but really you all need to get off your fucking high chair. We have a few fuck ups at our school, we're damn well not perfect and shit, we have a fucking horrible building but for gods sake we are most definitely not the worst.

So please everyone, get your facts straight before you start to gossip like little middle schoolers. Most of you are adults, fucking act like it.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: .... ()
Date: February 04, 2013 10:53PM

While I do agree that what these boys did was wrong, I do feel that the girls are not entirely innocent victims. Let's be honest, these kids have known each other for some time and this was not the first time they party together or the first time they have sex or engage in underage drinking. While what these boys did was wrong the parents of all the kids involved are the ones that are really at fault. I know that kids will find a way to get alcohol but don't make it accessible at home. Question your kids about their whereabouts and get to know their friends parents. Yes, I know that kids will lie and try to get over on us but its our jobs as parents to keep our kids safe. This should serve as a reminder to all of us as parents to keep the lines of communication open with our kids.

I know that everyone looks for other people to blame but it's really an opportunity to look at ourselves and make some adjustments.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: James ()
Date: February 04, 2013 10:56PM

FIVE YEARS Wrote:
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> According to Title 18, Chapter 110, Section 2552A
> (6), a minor can be charged because he or she
> “knowingly distributes, offers, sends, or
> provides to a minor any visual depiction,
> including any photograph, film, video, picture, or
> computer generated image or picture, whether made
> or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other
> means, where such visual depiction is, or appears
> to be, of a minor engaging in sexually explicit
> conduct.”
>
> As previously mentioned, such charges carry a
> minimum sentence of five years in a federal
> prison. Additionally, if a minor has been
> convicted of such charges on a previous case, the
> punishments will be more severe.
>
> **************************************************
> *************
>
> I wonder if these punks will be calling these
> girls whores in court, as they are looking at FIVE
> YEARS in the slammer.


Thanks legal expert. One problem. You are citing federal law. Juveniles, especially 15 and 16 year olds, are never charged with federal crimes.

They will be prosecuted in the county courts and nothing will come of this. They may change schools but they aren't going to jail.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: parent() ()
Date: February 04, 2013 11:06PM

wow,student() has a point.but the student() should also show some respect and tone down his language here.the boys still committed a crime of distributing the videos of minors having sex to others.yeah they were intoxicated but they knew what they were doing when they passed the video around.bad judgment on the boys part and thats what got them to the situation they are in rite now..

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: J.J.J. ()
Date: February 04, 2013 11:21PM

Wshs spartan student Wrote:
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> @judge Jury Executioner: that's probably the most
> pathetic thing I've ever heard. Do you realize
> what century we are in? We don't hang rapists
> anymore, what we need to do is give them a chance
> to reform and if not, they must deal with the
> consequences of their actions. You need to educate
> yourself before you speak.


You must not read much....besides, rapists cannot be reformed. Why stick up for these scumbags? They have you and every other dumb fuck at WSHS kissing their spoiled, bratty asses. Wise up. Your friends are lower than dirt. I bet they won't be so tough in hell.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Student ()
Date: February 04, 2013 11:31PM

J.J.J. Wrote:
>
> You must not read much....besides, rapists cannot
> be reformed. Why stick up for these scumbags?
> They have you and every other dumb fuck at WSHS
> kissing their spoiled, bratty asses. Wise up.
> Your friends are lower than dirt. I bet they
> won't be so tough in hell.


Why is this word "rapists" being thrown around without concern? Please understand before you begin to criticize. And yet again you somehow believe that 3 students reflect upon 2500 of us. Honestly where do you guys get this load of crap from.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Lolz ()
Date: February 04, 2013 11:40PM

@student

You must be new here....go to bed kid, it's past your bedtime child. Lol

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Tough Luck ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:16AM

Feel pretty bad for Tyler. As the other kid pointed out, he really is a good guy he's just a bit misunderstood and is known to make some stupid decisions. He's made his bed and now he'll have to sleep in it but its pretty tough to see a nice guy who was actually well liked around WS go through all of this. I'm hoping all he has to do is change schools and maybe some community service. Not sure about the other 2, but Tyler isnt as bad a guy as he may come off as or this thread makes him sound.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Karma ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:26AM

Tyler is fine but I don't feel bad for Eric at all. He is a cocky asshole that thinks he is god's gift to the rest of us. Doesn't surprise me one bit the kid screwed up this badly. Anyways, karmas a bitch man and when ur at JDC for the next couple years think about all the kids uve fucked with over the years. The world has a way of working itself out.

Don't drop the soap asshole (pun intended)

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Free Will is failing ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:26AM

Okay maybe rape is a bit strong to use for underage amoral goofballs in this age of bull shit rationalization. How about purveyors of child porn?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Ws junior ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:31AM

Lmao give Ben a little bit more credit. All he did was best the shit out of some kid cause he owed him money, he didnt have sex with girls and tape it.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Deuces ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:37AM

I see no way any of these 3 ever step back inside WSHS again and if they do be ready for parents (especially those with daughters) to protest and raise hell.

As for the class as a whole, I'm scared for what the future holds considering barley any of these kids can even drive right now. Can't imagine what their senior year is going to be like when partying, drinking, and having sex is the norm. These few seem way ahead of the game and have set standards pretty damn high for their classmates.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Way Too Far ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:45AM

TooFar: Most people who seem to know most about this situation have refuted the claim that the girls involved were unwilling

Student: -these were in no fact rapes. First off all girls gave consent to having sex

Student: -no girls were unconscious during any acts of sexual intercourse.

Surely if you are "most people" who "know most" then you have watched the videos? And must agree that someone must have edited out the consent, willingness, and conscious parts.

Or, you might just be full of shit.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: likewise ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:48AM

You know, I'm completely surprised to see so much intolerance and misunderstanding among the adults who are receiving their information from this thread. Calling out an entire school and even going as far to calling an entire county incompetent for a few students actions is just absurd. The fact of the matter is, no one truly knows the immediate situation beside the ones actually involved so making irrational assumptions about the rest of the students and the staff is uncalled for. West Springfield may be a slight dilapidated and be subject to a few "bad" students but what high school in America isn't? On the whole, West Springfield has a great student body that shares in value and pride. So please, leave this situation to the professionals and refrain from drawing conclusions on obviously skewed information.

P.S. As for the adults on here talking about how bad the students are, I would love you to try taking the same AP-filled course load as the students are expected to take now and lets see how well you do. Please. I dare you.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Wake up parents ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:49AM

If this isn't a wake up call to parents to get their oblivious heads out of their asses i don't know what is. These 3 boys and the 5-6 girls are definitely NOT the only high school kids in the area doing stuff like this.

The only difference is that they produced evidence of it but the actual actions of these boys and girls (sneaking out, drinking cheap liquor, possibly smoking marijuana, and hooking up with the opposite sex) is happening ALL THE TIME at ALL SCHOOLS.

Know where your kids are, don't buy bullshit lies they will try to tell, and punish them hard as hell if they mess up.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Palmate ()
Date: February 05, 2013 02:22AM

likewise Wrote:
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> P.S. As for the adults on here talking about how
> bad the students are, I would love you to try
> taking the same AP-filled course load as the
> students are expected to take now and lets see how
> well you do. Please. I dare you.


You dare me to take an AP class? What a cunt.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: EricS ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:04AM

We know who squealed to the Resource Officer at WS. Trust me when I say, when this is over you're dead. And I mean dead. You have ruined our lives and our futures and you will pay the ultimate price! Hope you will still feel it was worth it when you are six feet under! Nobody will be able to protect you! No matter where you go, we will find you!

edit by Cary: This user has a history of troll posts. The author's name is almost certainly impersonating one of the athletes allegedly involved. Take this post with a grain (mound) of salt.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/06/2013 07:54PM by Cary.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Shocking ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:11AM

I'm shocked that Eric Speer would agree to do these videos, what with his baby penis condition and all. Does he know he's not black yet? Funny how it's always the over-privledged white kids...dont worry Eric, you have daddy's attention now :)

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: gt3 ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:28AM

I,m sure this happens all the time with kids not that it makes it right. Let's hear posts from other schools. Sexting has been going on for some time. How about the kids who make up fake Facebook sites and use this to post or rip others to shreds.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Andrew ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:56AM

REMOVED OUR NAMES FROM THIS SITE NOW

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Lolz ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:59AM

Andrew Wrote:
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> REMOVED OUR NAMES FROM THIS SITE NOW




Andrew? I think it's actually Eric. Someone as insecure as him must be going nuts over this "blog." Lolzz

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: tGbCJ ()
Date: February 05, 2013 09:04AM

Well well,this certainly tops the Katie Ward case. 8-)

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: MYOPINION ()
Date: February 05, 2013 09:35AM

No they were not suspended from sports. I was shocked on Saturday night to see one of the accussed playing basketball on the opposing team from my son. His parents were right there in the bleachers and didn't act like anything was wrong. They also didn't pay any attention to their son playing the game!! Just talked the entire time. What does that tell you??

If it were my son, he would be grounded for life!!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: FU BITCH ()
Date: February 05, 2013 09:38AM

MYOPINION Wrote:
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> No they were not suspended from sports. I was
> shocked on Saturday night to see one of the
> accussed playing basketball on the opposing team
> from my son. His parents were right there in the
> bleachers and didn't act like anything was wrong.
> They also didn't pay any attention to their son
> playing the game!! Just talked the entire time.
> What does that tell you??
>
> If it were my son, he would be grounded for life!!


YOU NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE NAMES

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: ToolsYouCanUse ()
Date: February 05, 2013 09:40AM


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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: a reader ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:11AM

Could Have Been Wrote:
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> Uhlman can probably kiss
>
> Not sure about the other two, but he was an
> extremely talented and physically large specimen.
>
> is definitely a blow
>
> handle yourself

I saw what you did here with this post

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WaPo ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:45AM

Lawyer,

We're putting together a story about the arrests and would like to talk to you. 703-383-5111

Best,

The Washington Post

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: hear a pin drop at WSHS ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:53AM

Other than the belated announcement from the WSHS principal, there has been radio silence in this community.

Where is the outrage and disgust from this community?

Anyone? PTA? Parents? Teachers?

Are you all about preserving whatever reputation your school had that you won't speak out about the sexual violence that has occurred?

Seriously?

I'm sure St Bernies will be packed on Sunday with you guys all praising God and claiming to be upstanding, caring citizens....what a joke.

Anyone willing to condemn these horrible acts against young girls?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Not Yet ()
Date: February 05, 2013 11:02AM

hear a pin drop at WSHS Wrote:
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> Other than the belated announcement from the WSHS
> principal, there has been radio silence in this
> community.
>
> Where is the outrage and disgust from this
> community?
>
> Anyone? PTA? Parents? Teachers?
>
> Are you all about preserving whatever reputation
> your school had that you won't speak out about the
> sexual violence that has occurred?
>
> Seriously?
>
> I'm sure St Bernies will be packed on Sunday with
> you guys all praising God and claiming to be
> upstanding, caring citizens....what a joke.
>
> Anyone willing to condemn these horrible acts
> against young girls?

No I am not. Despite the situation looking really bad for these 3 boys, all we have to go off of is MyFoxDC's extremely biased report. Wait until more details and information comes out then label these kids as rapists or whores. As of now most word of mouth is speculation and nothing more.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: blogger ()
Date: February 05, 2013 11:21AM

hear a pin drop at WSHS Wrote:
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> I'm sure St Bernies will be packed on Sunday with
> you guys all praising God and claiming to be
> upstanding, caring citizens....what a joke.
>
> Anyone willing to condemn these horrible acts
> against young girls?

Maybe they are condemning it here Einstein.

Just because parents don't picket in front of the school before all the facts are known doesn't make those parents rapists you idiot. The perps were arrested, let the justice system work its stuff.

I love these "let's get a mob together and burn them!" idiots, with their pitchforks and torches and self-righteousness. The one I quoted posted a note on some public web forum criticizing people who don't complain outside their houses. Hypocritical and idiotic.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: MYOPINION ()
Date: February 05, 2013 11:26AM

What does that mean?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Pay attention ()
Date: February 05, 2013 11:27AM

EricS and company,

See the thing is, you can delete your twitter account or lock it, but your postings and pictures are still visible to those who know how to access them. Just as an example:

http://twicsy.com/i/Pvz2Nc

And I'm pretty sure most people know how to use google cache.

This is one of the many reasons you should not post revealing pictures and videos of others online ... you violate their privacy for a really long time.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: who are you?? ()
Date: February 05, 2013 11:36AM

>
> No I am not. Despite the situation looking really
> bad for these 3 boys, all we have to go off of is
> MyFoxDC's extremely biased report. Wait until more
> details and information comes out then label these
> kids as rapists or whores. As of now most word of
> mouth is speculation and nothing more.


What was "biased" about the Fox Report? Do share.

More details WON'T be coming out nitwit---this will be tried in juvenile court it looks like-UNFORTUNATELY.

Are you suggesting that these choirboys did nothing wrong? Did they not break the law?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Record ()
Date: February 05, 2013 11:50AM

hear a pin drop at WSHS Wrote:
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> Other than the belated announcement from the WSHS
> principal, there has been radio silence in this
> community.>
> Where is the outrage and disgust from this
> community?>
> Anyone? PTA? Parents? Teachers>
> Are you all about preserving whatever reputation
> your school had that you won't speak out about the
> sexual violence that has occurred?>
> Seriously?>
> I'm sure St Bernies will be packed on Sunday with
> you guys all praising God and claiming to be
> upstanding, caring citizens....what a joke.>
> Anyone willing to condemn these horrible acts
> against young girls?

In agreement, but recent events have shown that when something this repugnant happens around Fairfax County, few people are able to address the issue. Many people prefer to shut down/pretend it's not happening in their own neighborhood. Perhaps it is to preserve a reputation, or perhaps they are not comfortable with the challenges it causes. But FCPS contributes to this atmosphere. Many administrators seem incapable of doing the morally correct job unless they are beaten over the head with a list of laws or that requires them to do the right thing.

It's ultimately all a job of spin and image for them.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: .... ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:21PM


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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: the bitchs ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:24PM

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Foodie ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:28PM

Does Eric eat? Doesn't look like it...ol skeletor ass

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: who? ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:28PM

^^ "The bitches" is too vague. Are they the wronged maidens in this modern Fairfax County drama?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Irving ()
Date: February 05, 2013 12:29PM

Did these students go to Irving Middle School?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Glen Ridge ()
Date: February 05, 2013 02:09PM

Similar thing happened to kids at my HS in Glen Ridge NJ. They didnt film it but had the 'sex party' anyway. The girl involved had learning disabilities. Very rich suburb but their daddy's money could not save the hijinks of those dumb boys. Good. Ruined their lives and justly so.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Randy Spheres ()
Date: February 05, 2013 02:59PM

Do any of these amoral goofballs have parents in the porn industry?
Or perhaps the parents are too busy driving some oversized SUV and thinking how to score an oversized McMansion in Great Falls? Leave the parenting to the school's which is really stupid. Being a parent takes a little effort but remember if they grow up not giving a shit about you(gimme gimme syndrome does not count) they just might take care of your old decrepit body when you hit 70 and not shove you in nursing home. Large majority of nursing homes are hell on earth on your way to see the higher power in the universe. Come on upwardly mobile parent just maybe you won't be a 1%- er.

Oh yeah, the love and respect of a child is a wonderful thing and it helps society. But who gives a shit anymore right

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: parents beware ()
Date: February 05, 2013 03:18PM

The media referenced up to 6 victims and suggested that there might be more. These parents need to keep an eye on these girls for signs of depression, etc.

There have been a number of cases where young girls humiliated by such public viewing have taken their lives.

On the outside they might be joking around and saying it's not a big deal--but inside they could be really hurting.School psychologists should be keeping a very close watch on these girls.

Let's pray this story doesn't get any uglier or more tragic than it already is.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Georgia ()
Date: February 05, 2013 03:45PM

Some people claim the girls "knew what they were doing" and they were willing participants. As if that makes it all so normal. How likely is it that six teenaged girls were happy and willing to be videotaped having sex and having the recordings distributed to other people?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WTOP ()
Date: February 05, 2013 03:46PM

w00t! Fairfax Underground cited as a source from WTOP:

http://wtop.com/149/3218310/Fairfax-Co-students-busted-in-porn-case

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: February 05, 2013 03:47PM

@stupidity - to call a child stupid for getting hit by a car as they play in their neighborhood is absolutely insane.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Parent of a WSHS Junior ()
Date: February 05, 2013 03:52PM

No Son knew about it in Jnuary he said 20 girls involved. Lets wait for the outcome of court, they wont release details since all are Juveniles. Or do we want a Witch hunt over this? Just look at the Conn. shooting, No Automatic weapons where used in that, but look at the state of the nation over Gun Control. Chill Peeps.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: February 05, 2013 03:54PM

20 girls??? I don't believe that for a second ... have you looked at these guys pictures??? No way.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: hey idiot parent of WSHS Jr ()
Date: February 05, 2013 03:56PM

How about you chill?

I don't think the choices are a witch hunt and don't give a shit.

Surely reasoned adults can settle somewhere in between these two extremes.

Pathetic attempt at comparing this to Newtown and gun control.

I bet you are just a super de dooper parent given your idiotic comments.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: great advice from WSHS parent ()
Date: February 05, 2013 04:04PM

The tormented Staten Island teenager who killed herself by jumping in the path of a train was bullied to death by classmates after she had sex with four football players, police sources said Thursday.

Felicia Garcia, a 15-year-old freshman at Tottenville High School, was driven to her death when two classmates blabbed about the encounters — and she learned that it had been recorded.

“Kids are saying she had sex with some guys from the football team at a party after the game,” said a friend of the doomed girl who asked not to be identified. “Later on they wouldn't leave her alone about it. They just kept bullying her and bullying her.”

After the weekend, the bullying sent Felicia into the final tailspin in a long-troubled life.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Met ()
Date: February 05, 2013 04:15PM

great advice from WSHS parent Wrote:
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> The tormented Staten Island teenager who killed
> herself by jumping in the path of a train was
> bullied to death by classmates after she had sex
> with four football players, police sources said
> Thursday.
>
> Felicia Garcia, a 15-year-old freshman at
> Tottenville High School, was driven to her death
> when two classmates blabbed about the encounters
> — and she learned that it had been recorded.
>
> “Kids are saying she had sex with some guys from
> the football team at a party after the game,”
> said a friend of the doomed girl who asked not to
> be identified. “Later on they wouldn't leave her
> alone about it. They just kept bullying her and
> bullying her.”
>
> After the weekend, the bullying sent Felicia into
> the final tailspin in a long-troubled life.


This is sad. Some people say "teens are always looking for sex" or that these kids are willing participants in sex acts and they know what they are getting into. Then a story like this comes along, and it shows that some teens may become sexually active because they think it will make them more popular, but it actually leads to depression and low self-esteem.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: lilswamp ()
Date: February 05, 2013 04:27PM

Whatever happend to innocent until proven guilty? People are forgeting that in this County, you do have rights - to remain silent and to have an attorney. Let a judge or jury determine what should happen. No one knows for sure at this point if the girls were willing participants. They were teenagers. It is not as if the boys were sending pictures of six year olds.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Andrew M. ()
Date: February 05, 2013 04:28PM

There is absolutely no chance that the girls would have been cool with being videotaped. It just defies belief.

To surreptitiously film them and then distribute the vidoes to your friends in an attemp to impress them is a premeditated and disgusting act, and has almost certainly caused all sorts of emotional and pyschological trauma for the girls involved. They are not even close to being emotionally mature enough to be able to handle this type of betrayel and cruelty from someone they trusted. This should not be minimized or rationalized away. I realize some of the posters on here are clearly high schoolers or middle schoolers themselves, but that does not excuse any attempt to justify or trivialize how harmful and mean these boys actions were.

Child p*rn charges seem misguided, but the perpetrators should be punished with prejudice. Nothing less than a few months in JDC will do this case justice.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Parent of a WSHS Junior ()
Date: February 05, 2013 04:35PM

hey idiot parent of WSHS Jr Wrote:
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> How about you chill?
>
> I don't think the choices are a witch hunt and
> don't give a shit.
>
> Surely reasoned adults can settle somewhere in
> between these two extremes.
>
> Pathetic attempt at comparing this to Newtown and
> gun control.
>
> I bet you are just a super de dooper parent given
> your idiotic comments.



I had 3 daughters Graduate from WSHS, OPHS and LBSS all virgins, even had my wife meet the cops at a house party of the youngest Daughters. and have 2 Boys in school WSHS and Elem, and can say I keep track of my Kids 24/7 so pretty sure I can speak from Authority, No most parents aren't doing their jobs keeping track of their kids. I had my 17 year old son turn himself into the cops for breaking into a school bus, but he knows know it was the right thing to do now. These kids will have enough trouble in the days and months to come, they are not getting a free ride. But as Adults we are not helping the situation by allowing Speculation to run wild. Call me a Tyrant, but all my son had to deal with for breaking and entering is an Aversion Process, the other 3 have all gone back for the original charge, so I feel I have succeeded in getting him on the right path. Call me a super de dooper parent I will go with that.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Wtf?? ()
Date: February 05, 2013 04:41PM

lilswamp Wrote:
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> Whatever happend to innocent until proven guilty?
> People are forgeting that in this County, you do
> have rights - to remain silent and to have an
> attorney. Let a judge or jury determine what
> should happen. No one knows for sure at this
> point if the girls were willing participants.
> They were teenagers. It is not as if the boys
> were sending pictures of six year olds.


This is the court of public OPINION, not a court of LAW. Those rules don't apply here.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Seriously? ()
Date: February 05, 2013 05:29PM

Stop putting pictures of 14-16 year olds on this public forum.

Do you not realize that whoever put that swim team picture up is unnecessarily associating 3 girls with this scandal? All to make one of the kids look like a "pimp" that gets ass. Cool. Cut that shit out now. Even posting names of the boys is fucked up..theyre sophomores for crying out loud. I've counted 2 people be wrongly accused on this forum...ever hear of libel? I can't stop y'all losers who have nothing better to do from talking about this on here but quit name dropping and putting identifiable pictures up.

Move on and let it play out. Bickering on here isn't going to do shit.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: rapper g ()
Date: February 05, 2013 05:49PM

andrew cox was really involved? damn.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: former Irving ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:06PM

Found them in the yearbook at Irving.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Saddened ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:18PM

I know the Speer family - nice family - wouldn't associate something like this with them....

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: sgfdgfd ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:23PM

seems like an awful lot of crime at WSHS, I didn't think the food fight was a big deal, and then there was the big party with a stabbing and now this, seems like too much.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: This Actually Happened ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:25PM

Nobody go near that Fiat parked at the school, it has two decaying greaseball bodies inside!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Biff ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:40PM

Don't get hung up on whether minor on minor violence/exploitation/whatever should be prosecuted. Morally and legally this would be rape...sorry, alleged rape.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Notta Popo ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:54PM

EricS Wrote:
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> We know who squealed to the Resource Officer at
> WS. Trust me when I say, when this is over you're
> dead. And I mean dead. You have ruined our lives
> and our futures and you will pay the ultimate
> price! Hope you will still feel it was worth it
> when you are six feet under! Nobody will be able
> to protect you! No matter where you go, we will
> find you!


Wow, making anonymous death threats on Fairfax Underground. You sure have balls. Teeny tiny shriveled ones.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: A Parent ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:56PM

The girls in that picture are just three girls on the swim team not any of the victims. They had nothing to do with the arrest or the three boys. Whoever posted that picture should take it down immediately since it is sending the wrong impression. This forum is making a bad situation much worse by implying that the girls in the photo had anything to do with this and is incredibly irresponsible.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: AAU? ()
Date: February 05, 2013 06:56PM

If these accusations were against an AAU coach, he would be suspended immediately.

Against a player? Also immediately suspended. But someone will have to bring the names to the attendtion of AAU management. They will do their best to ignore it until that happens.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: chu chi ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:13PM

"Videotape"? "film"? What century are you from?!?

Andrew M. Wrote:
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> There is absolutely no chance that the girls would
> have been cool with being videotaped. It just
> defies belief.
>
> To surreptitiously film them and then distribute
> the vidoes to your friends in an attemp to impress

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Herb Cohen ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:19PM

the bitchs Wrote:
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> .... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > http://twicsy.com/i/iQkxfd


Does Eric have a Jew fro?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: gfer ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:53PM

Randy Spheres Wrote:
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> Or perhaps the parents are too busy driving some
> oversized SUV and thinking how to score an
> oversized McMansion in Great Falls?

Leave Great Falls out of this!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Mrs. E ()
Date: February 05, 2013 08:56PM

Those poor girls. They have to be at that school, facing the embarrassment of being involved in such a scandal. Plus they have to face their perpetrators every day. Why are these boys allowed to be at school? Can't they be sent to an alternative location for juvenile delinquents?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: fcps dad ()
Date: February 05, 2013 09:02PM

Georgia Wrote:
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> How likely is it
> that six teenaged girls were happy and willing to
> be videotaped having sex and having the recordings
> distributed to other people?

You are trying to apply your growing up in the 80's or 90's attitude to kids of today.

My 6th grader is getting assignments to create Facebook and Twitter pages - the schools are pushing the social media on kids at a very young age. Throw in the FLE sessions, which leave absolutely nothing to the imagination. From what they cover in elementary school, I'm pretty sure they'll be covering oral and anal by 8th grade. You should not be surprised by sex tapes by 10th grade - and girls willingly participating shouldn't shock you either.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WSRes ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:01PM

EricS Wrote:
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> We know who squealed to the Resource Officer at
> WS. Trust me when I say, when this is over you're
> dead. And I mean dead. You have ruined our lives
> and our futures and you will pay the ultimate
> price! Hope you will still feel it was worth it
> when you are six feet under! Nobody will be able
> to protect you! No matter where you go, we will
> find you!


If EricS really wrote this, congrats. In addition to the other charges against you, you've now added the illustrious charge of communicating a threat, a Class 6 felony.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: JohnnyLaw ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:24PM

There is a lot more to this case than has been reported here and what has been leaked to media. The boys' families have hired attorney's and are not talking. Some of the victims have stated that they knew about the taping before it happened and willingly participated. The VA Law previously cited applies in this case and will have dire consequences to the boys involed, and possibly to some of the victims as well.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: TGBWC ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:34PM

fcps dad Wrote:
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> Georgia Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How likely is it
> > that six teenaged girls were happy and willing
> to
> > be videotaped having sex and having the
> recordings
> > distributed to other people?
>
> You are trying to apply your growing up in the
> 80's or 90's attitude to kids of today.
>
> My 6th grader is getting assignments to create
> Facebook and Twitter pages - the schools are
> pushing the social media on kids at a very young
> age. Throw in the FLE sessions, which leave
> absolutely nothing to the imagination. From what
> they cover in elementary school, I'm pretty sure
> they'll be covering oral and anal by 8th grade.
> You should not be surprised by sex tapes by 10th
> grade - and girls willingly participating
> shouldn't shock you either.

Aren't people supposed to be at least 13 to have a Facebook page?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: ?? ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:36PM

View the new article at Washingtonpost.com

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: EliteAndBeyond ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:42PM

You are actually clueless, i play sports with 2 of them and i know for a fact that wasnt even close to what happened. Good try though

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Bang13 ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:45PM

I wish you all would stop being so fcking ignorant about this whole situation. There were no drugs involved in this ordeal. The girls willingly drank and had sex the the boys. However, they were not aware that they were being filmed. This situation happen long ago and the only reason it had resurfaced is because one of the girls current boyfriend asked her to press charges. THEY WILLINGLY DRANK AND WILLINGLY HAD SEX. It'a not rape if it is consensual. No one forced the alcohol into their mouths or forced them into bed. Like that one bitch Hannah Montana says: everybody makes mistakes, everybody has those days. The past is the past. Grow the fuck up. There are kids who are really being raped and molested at this very moment and you're worried about 3 NOVA kids who got it in with a few easy girls. Congrats.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Use Tor, Prevent Trouble ()
Date: February 05, 2013 10:58PM

WSRes Wrote:
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> EricS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We know who squealed to the Resource Officer at
> > WS. Trust me when I say, when this is over
> you're
> > dead. And I mean dead. You have ruined our
> lives
> > and our futures and you will pay the ultimate
> > price! Hope you will still feel it was worth
> it
> > when you are six feet under! Nobody will be
> able
> > to protect you! No matter where you go, we
> will
> > find you!
>
>
> If EricS really wrote this, congrats. In addition
> to the other charges against you, you've now added
> the illustrious charge of communicating a threat,
> a Class 6 felony.

There is no way Eric posted this. It is simply an anonymous troll, looking to stir up the pot a little more.

Hopefully, he remembered to use the Tor Browser bundle while he was doing it so that the cops hit a dead end when they try and trace his IP address. Otherwise, he's going to get a fun visit some evening soon from Fairfax's finest.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: LB ()
Date: February 06, 2013 01:31AM

Silly me, here I was thinking Caleb Henderson screwed up bad with his DUI a little down the street.

These guys take the cake.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: February 06, 2013 01:32AM

Bang13 Wrote:
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> I wish you all would stop being so fcking ignorant
> about this whole situation. There were no drugs
> involved in this ordeal. The girls willingly drank
> and had sex the the boys. However, they were not
> aware that they were being filmed. This situation
> happen long ago and the only reason it had
> resurfaced is because one of the girls current
> boyfriend asked her to press charges. THEY
> WILLINGLY DRANK AND WILLINGLY HAD SEX. It'a not
> rape if it is consensual. No one forced the
> alcohol into their mouths or forced them into bed.
> Like that one bitch Hannah Montana says: everybody
> makes mistakes, everybody has those days. The past
> is the past. Grow the fuck up. There are kids who
> are really being raped and molested at this very
> moment and you're worried about 3 NOVA kids who
> got it in with a few easy girls. Congrats.

+1

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: skankster ()
Date: February 06, 2013 06:13AM


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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WSHS Jockocracy ()
Date: February 06, 2013 06:58AM

skankster Wrote:
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> FFXU mentioned in WaPo
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/teen-sex-video
> s-dont-warrant-criminal-charges-defense-attorneys-
> say/2013/02/05/933a7f9a-6fc4-11e2-8b8d-e0b59a1b8e2
> a_story.html

"Although the lawyer, Rodney G. Leffler, acknowledged that the behavior was stupid and hurtful, he argued that they do not warrant the criminal charges that have been filed."

Of course Leffler's gonna spew this line of bullshit, because he's being well-paid to do so. He's playing the same tune they always play when middle-class white kids get themselves in a fuckton of trouble in Fairfax county: "They're really good kids. We don't want to ruin their lives over this one incident."

The problem is, it isn't just one incident. Larry, Moe and Curly did this shit over eleven months to no fewer than six girls from three different schools and made a total of at least ten videos.

That doesn't sound like "Oops, I fucked up just this once."

It sounds like a prolonged pattern of criminal behavior over an extended period of time by a gang of thuggish punks who thought they could do whatever the fuck they wanted because they were members of West Springfield High School's jockocracy.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Mandingo ()
Date: February 06, 2013 07:49AM

Anyone have a link to the vids?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: duhhhhhh ()
Date: February 06, 2013 09:54AM

Just a note for everyone attempting to give these boys a free pass on their activities by claiming the girls were willing participants:

In the Commonwealth of Virginia there is a minimum age set for when someone can consensually agree to having sex.

It doesn't matter if the victim has had sex 500 other times. It doesn't matter if the victims drove themselves to the house. It doesn't matter if the victims said "yes, please have sex with me, videotape it and then freely pass that videotape around school". None of that matters. If even one of those victims is under the age of consent in Virginia, these guys are fucked.

Guys: This is a life lesson in how your poor decisions, particularly in regards to how you interact with women, will turn around and fuck your whole life up.

Even if you don't do something criminal or immoral, be careful about what you allow yourself to get caught up in. Do not allow yourselves to be put in a position where your actions can be misconstrued, exagerrated or questioned because it will come back to bite you in the ass eventually.

You need to be a gentleman to every woman or girl you encounter, at all times, always, no matter what. First off, it's the right thing to do. Secondly, if you don't and you are consistently dickish to the women in your life, eventually it's going to get you locked up. You might not even get locked up for the REALLY dickish things you do, and might end up getting locked up over a fake story laid out by some girl just trying to get back at you for some other dickish move you did. It doesn't matter. Eventually it will get you.

Just a warning. Take it for what it's worth.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: None* ()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:00AM

That age of consent in Va is 15.....

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: No Shit Sherlock ()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:06AM

Sounds to me like their brilliant lawyers essentially admitted that their clients clearly broke the law. The law is very clear. Creating nude images of anyone under the age of 18 is illegal. Showing those images or sharing them with mothers is distribution, which is also illegal.

These three asshats aren't "victims" as their asshat lawyers claim. As confirmed by their asshat lawyers, they made the same stupid decison at least 10 times over a period of 11 months. Good luck convincing a judge in juvenile court that this is nothing more than "kids being kids."

The law is very clear and these three asshats broke the law. Hopefully the parents of all teenagers will take this opportunity to make their kids aware of this so their kids don't make the same stupid decisions that these three asshats made.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: duhhhhhh ()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:20AM

None* Wrote:
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> That age of consent in Va is 15.....

I don't know about that, it sounds like the 15 thing is only in specific instances where both partners are between 15 and 17:

The age of consent in Virginia is 18, with a close in age exception that allows teenagers aged 15 to 17 to engage in sexual acts but only with a partner younger than 18. However, the legislation is not clear-cut, and the details are discussed below:

Any penetrative sexual act other than penile-vaginal intercourse is defined in Virginia law as 'sodomy.' Section 18.2-361 of the Code of Virginia entitled "Crimes against nature" states in part;

"If any person carnally knows in any manner any brute animal, or carnally knows any male or female person by the anus or by or with the mouth, or voluntarily submits to such carnal knowledge, he or she shall be guilty of ... felony..."

In addition, any sexual intercourse outside marriage is defined in Virginia law as 'fornication.' Section 18.2-344 of the Code of Virginia entitled "Crimes against nature" states;

"Any person, not being married, who voluntarily shall have sexual intercourse with any other person, shall be guilty of fornication, punishable as a Class 4 misdemeanor."

The courts of Virginia have ruled that these statutes are not invalid under the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas since that case only applied to adults, and the age of majority in Virginia is 18. This means that those 18 and above involved in consensual activity in private may have a defense in court, but those under 18 do not.

Section § 18.2-63 of the Code refers to minors younger than 15, while § 18.2-371 is about 15-, 16- and 17-year-olds.

Section 18.2-63 states in part:

"If any person carnally knows, without the use of force, a child thirteen years of age or older but under fifteen years of age, such person shall be guilty of ... felony ... For the purposes of this section, (i) a child under the age of thirteen years shall not be considered a consenting child and (ii) "carnal knowledge" includes the acts of sexual intercourse, cunnilingus, fellatio, analingus, anal intercourse, and animate and inanimate object sexual penetration."

Consensual sex where one partner is 15, 16 or 17 and the other is over 18 is a class 1 misdemeanor.

§ 18.2-371. Causing or encouraging acts rendering children delinquent, abused, etc.; penalty; abandoned infant. Any person 18 years of age or older, including the parent of any child, who (i) willfully contributes to, encourages, or causes any act, omission, or condition which renders a child delinquent, in need of services, in need of supervision, or abused or neglected as defined in § 16.1-228, or (ii) engages in consensual sexual intercourse with a child 15 or older not his spouse, child, or grandchild, shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.'


However, and this goes back to my part about being a dick somehow coming back to bite you.... recording these girls and distributing it is a dick move, period. It's depraved. It shows callous disregard for others.

Even if the boys were 17 and the girls were 15/16 and THAT aspect of things was legit, there's a whole series of other crimes they can be charged with regardless of consent. Essentially, the act of having sex may not fall under statutory rape, but in the end, they are still going to get fucked royally for being dicks to these girls.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: for comparison ()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:32AM

A year ago five kids from Lee/Hayfield were arrested for child sex trafficing. Granted they were 23-25 but the law went after them hard. Some got 15 year prison sentences.

One of the boys simply drove the girls to locations where they had sex---he received NO MONEY. And he got 10 years.

I predict that these kids are going to be made examples for all the kiddies in FCPS land. Cops are sick of the sexting and they will use this to send a message.

These kids are screwed.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Whos this ()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:40AM

WHile I have the communities attention, back in July a kid from either Irving, WSHS or LBSS broke into 16 cars in West Springfield. if anyone recognizes him call FCPD. at around 1:25 am in the video may be a cleaner shot. The police have the video but as far as we know no one was identified. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE2KoSHeIJs
Attachments:
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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: None* ()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:41AM

The age of consent in Va is 15 when referring to rape or not....

What that means is, if a consenting female 15 or older wants to have sex with an adult (18 or older) and does so willingly, the only thing the adult can be charged with is contributing to the delinquency of a minor (misdemeanor) but not rape (Felony).

There are varying degrees of penalties on sex with ages 13-15 and if the offender is 3 years or older.....etc...etc....you would need a lawyer to sort out that shit, but consenting 15 or older is a misd.

Sex with 12 or younger is rape regardless of any consent or anything else.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: judicial square ()
Date: February 06, 2013 10:42AM

I had to laugh at the Washington Post article this morning, especially the attorney part. Attorneys will cry if their client gets tried by the media but on the flip side will use the media to gain sympathy for their guilty party. Some of the higher priced attorneys are pretty good at getting their clients off but most of it is overpriced hand holding and their publicity moves make their employer think they are working their ass for them. I agree with the above poster. Unless they get one one the lamer liberal judges, these kids are going to be poster children for a large and spreading epedemic .

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Attorneys for Def's ()
Date: February 06, 2013 12:28PM

Interesting fact - defense attorney was lawer for defendents in sniper cases, and has a daughter at Lake Braddock. Wonder if he is thinking of her as he defends these 3 who like to hook up, video, and share with everyone what they did with girls close to his daughters age, with at least one of the females coming from Lake Braddock according to the Washington Post article.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Former WSHS student-athlete ()
Date: February 06, 2013 12:53PM

I think it's comical that most of the parents posting on this forum are calling for the kids, and I repeat KIDS, to be charged to the maximum sentences and some wackos are even calling for their execution. Which is disgusting that you would call for 3 teenage kids executions based off of the accusations that people are carelessly throwing around. And if this happened to one of your kids I guarantee you would be upset, embarrassed and worried that they might have ruined their chance at a bright future. There is a reason we live in the United States where the basis of our legal system is "innocent until proven guilty". And last time I checked the investigation and trial is still ongoing, which means for you half-wit self proclaimed know-it-alls, that they haven't been proven guilty and they are facing charges based on allegations of sex exploitation.
Also, I don't understand why people are jumping to the conclusion that these boys raped the girls because they were both intoxicated by alcohol. Their is a reason the police did not arrest and charge them with rape, and also, why the victims are not pressing charges for rape. Now for all of you woman posting on the site about how they were exploited when they were drunk I have a question. Unless you've never drank and never experienced college than this doesn't pertain to you. So all of you woman have never willingly drank alcohol at a party or with friends and hooked up with a guy who also was drinking? I seriously doubt it, so stop with the accusations that these boys drugged them. I'm in college and I know what ruffies and other drugs do to people, it's not a pretty sight, they are pretty much lifeless. And if their was video evidence of the guys having sex with passed out girls than they would've been charged with rape as well. And if they were passed out on alcohol the police would be able to tell in the videos.
And by no means am I saying what they allegedly did is alright and acceptable. If what these boys did is proven to be true, than yes they should be charged with the appropriate sentences. By no means is it ok to video tape a girl and exploit her by soliciting it to people.

Now with all that being said it disgusts me that all these people are posting on here about how terrible the students, staff, parents and community are at West Springfield. Sure their are going to be the kids who get involved in drugs and associate with the wrong people in high school. News flash that happens everywhere. But to call West Springfield a bunch of degenerates and low life's is ignorant. Just look at the statistics of students graduating, getting AP honors, receiving scholarships, etc. You'd shut your mouth real quick. And that goes for all the high schools in Fairfax County and their prestige. Their is a reason it is the best public school county in America. And to label a school and community as terrible because of 3 kids getting arrested is laughable. The west springfield community is great.
And it's sad to see the good spartan students, the school, the spartan baseball and football programs be dragged in the mud because of this.

PS: They were not phenomenal athletes

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Hey former student ()
Date: February 06, 2013 01:03PM

Off subject, but did you pass English at WSHS? You failed to learn "there" and "their" and "they're".

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