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West Springfield High arrest [3 arrested in child pornography case]
Posted by: Wshs Student 1 ()
Date: January 11, 2013 02:12PM

3 students at this school where just arrested. Any reason why they couldn't call them in do the principal office and arrested them after school ended?

edit by Cary: Added "[3 arrested in child pornography case]" to the subject for list-page clarity.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/06/2013 01:15PM by Cary.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: must be serious ()
Date: January 11, 2013 02:17PM

what did they do?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Westerns ()
Date: January 11, 2013 02:18PM

Wshs Student 1 Wrote:
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> 3 students at this school where just arrested. Any
> reason why they couldn't call them in do the
> principal office and arrested them after school
> ended?

Does it matter how they were arrested? Nope. Do you think police say, "Oh well he is watching TV right now, I better let him finish that."

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: January 11, 2013 02:23PM

It really doesn't matter what time they get taken to jail.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: January 11, 2013 02:25PM

Nothing like a perp walk to put the fear of Jesus into sappy high school students.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Asswipes ()
Date: January 11, 2013 02:34PM

Yeah there's a reason why... THEY COMMITTED A CRIME THAT DICTATED THEY BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY. Fucking people these days think the police operate like the customer service dept at Apple. You break the law you go to jail on the law's terms and times. Simple as that.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: West Springfield Thugs ()
Date: January 11, 2013 03:05PM

If the Fairfax County police came to West Springfield High School and arrested three thugs, they all deserved it.

Fairfax County cops need to break some fucking skulls in Fairfax County, and fuck the hell up any thugs who need to have their lives readjusted.

Fairfax County cops, banging heads, is a good thing! It doesn't happen enough!

Fuck those three bastards. Lock their asses up for life!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: book em dano ()
Date: January 11, 2013 03:11PM

was it another food fight gone awry

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: taz ()
Date: January 11, 2013 03:22PM

Would you rather wait until they are armed and ready for the cops? The OP is a fucking idiot.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: ????? ()
Date: January 11, 2013 03:29PM

book em dano Wrote:
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> was it another food fight gone awry


WWWD - What Would Wardinsky Do?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Date: January 11, 2013 03:30PM

If you see a West Springfield High School student, arrest him. He'll know why...

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: reason ()
Date: January 11, 2013 03:40PM

It is quite common for cops to pick kids up in school for questioning and/or arrest them. Reasons?

1. Parents are not there to advocate for kids and tell them to keep their mouth shut until mom/dad calls an attorney.

2. The cops can find the kids easily in school.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: FUNdamental ()
Date: January 11, 2013 03:46PM

Can we assume they were they transfers from Westfield?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: West Springfield Degenerates ()
Date: January 11, 2013 07:38PM

Arrest all those fucking degenerates at West Springfield.

I agree, if the cops came to school to arrest them, which they obviously did, then they deserve to be locked up.

They don't need their fucking parents to protect them, either. What kind of bullshit is that? Sure, the cops knew they were 'supposedly' in school, which they were, and thankfully they got arrested.

Trouble making kids like the ones at West Springfield need to be locked up for life.

Lock up all those degenerate West Springfield bastards and throw the fucking keys away!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: spartanpride ()
Date: January 11, 2013 08:10PM

P-A-R-T-Y! Party hearty, West Springfield High. I say P-A-R-T-Y, party hearty WestSpringfield High!
And when we party, we really partyyy...and when we jam, we really jam...do that stuff, do that stuff, (clapclap), do that stuff, do that stuff (clapclap)! Go, Spartannnnnnsssssssss!

Just can't hide our Spartan Pride!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Fuck That Spartan Bullshit ()
Date: January 11, 2013 08:12PM

spartanpride Wrote:
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> P-A-R-T-Y! Party hearty, West Springfield High. I
> say P-A-R-T-Y, party hearty WestSpringfield High!
>
> And when we party, we really partyyy...and when we
> jam, we really jam...do that stuff, do that stuff,
> (clapclap), do that stuff, do that stuff
> (clapclap)! Go, Spartannnnnnsssssssss!
>
> Just can't hide our Spartan Pride!

That's why all of you Spartan assholes are getting arrested! LOL

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Stupidity ()
Date: January 11, 2013 09:29PM

I don't think 3 idiots qualify as "all of you Spartan assholes." Wow, what an idiot. Hmmm, guess that makes 4 assholes!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Fuck That Spartan Bullshit ()
Date: January 11, 2013 10:23PM

Stupidity Wrote:
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> I don't think 3 idiots qualify as "all of you
> Spartan assholes." Wow, what an idiot. Hmmm, guess
> that makes 4 assholes!


As far as I'm concerned, one West Springfield High School Spartan is as guilty as the next one.

They're all fucking criminals in West Springfield!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Hyfr ()
Date: January 12, 2013 11:22AM

What happend?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WSHS Sucks ()
Date: January 12, 2013 03:27PM

Drug dealers.

West Springfield High School is full of drug dealers.

That had to be 'the problem'.

It's ALWAYS 'the problem', at West Springfield.

That school has the most stoned and fucked up students in Fairfax County.

When school is in session, you can smell weed when you drive by WSHS.

What a fucking laugh. LOL

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: student2 ()
Date: January 12, 2013 05:28PM

Actually had nothing to do with drugs They were videotaping themselves having sex with girls and sending it to their friends

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WSHS Alum ()
Date: January 12, 2013 10:47PM

WSHS Sucks Wrote:
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> Drug dealers.
>
> West Springfield High School is full of drug
> dealers.
>
> That had to be 'the problem'.
>
> It's ALWAYS 'the problem', at West Springfield.
>
> That school has the most stoned and fucked up
> students in Fairfax County.
>
> When school is in session, you can smell weed when
> you drive by WSHS.
>
> What a fucking laugh. LOL

And we're goddamned proud of it too. You're probably some snobby LB fag.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: yr ()
Date: January 13, 2013 07:18AM

I dont get the demographic for wshs and its decline, seems pretty middle class and lots of military - why all the drug use and steep decline?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Old Spartan ()
Date: January 13, 2013 10:40AM

yr Wrote:
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> I dont get the demographic for wshs and its
> decline, seems pretty middle class and lots of
> military - why all the drug use and steep decline?

Those older neighborhoods (Orange Hunt, the homes off of Rolling south of OKM, etc.) are filled with rentals. Military families that bought cheaply and then got transferred, holding onto the property for rental income. Some of of those homes haven't been lived in by their owners for 10+ years and it shows. Properties are being managed by local realtors who turn a blind eye to the number of people living in the house. It's not the same Springfield I lived in 25 years ago, that's for sure.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: a few thoughts ()
Date: January 13, 2013 12:15PM

I would not say this is steep decline. Lots of the schools in the "wealthy" areas of FFX have drug use. And if you're talking about marijuana, that is rampant everywhere. It is true that the housing stock is aging. There are still lots of military families here and there are many older empty nesters (due to the age of the houses). The nearby plaza has more restaurants that are new (Thai, Panera, The Burger Joint, and a Whole Foods that is crammed with shoppers) and there are quite a few others (Einstein, etc.). If you go out here there are plenty of retirees and young families enjoying these eating venues. There is also the Geospatial Intelligence complex just down the road. The neighborhood behind the golf course continues to be decent as well as the Daventry section. Carleigh Parkway has some very nice homes. The Burke to Tysons bus route has just been established (and the Pentagon and Springfield metro buses have been here for a long time) and that is a big plus for this area. This is certainly not what I would describe as "steep decline". Yes, there are some confused teenagers here, but I wouldn't say there is a big violence issue. People are watching their neighborhoods.

Having said all of that, Fairfax County is urbanizing quickly. These houses will maintain or increase their values based on location. The high school will continue to offer the high end courses (AP and honors) that attract people to those homes. There will always be a lower end, but that will not matter so much if the school responds and offers challenges to all students. So far that is the case. I do fear that some of the personnel changes at the high school have not been positive in terms of attracting those higher end kinds of students (reducing the band personnel for example). Let's see what Greenfelder does. I have confidence that he will make the right decisions. It would definitely help if the school were renovated SOON. That needs to happen for people to remain confident that attention is being paid to the school and to this area of the county.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 13, 2013 01:05PM

ROFLMAO @ West Springfield's "huge decline"

in case you havent noticed, it's never been "West Beverly" - but there's nothing more off at West Springfield than at any other school.

I rank on Spartan Country yeah, but the reality is that life in that area is nicer than most of the PLANET. Yeah, it's not McLean but not everybody judges their life on the size of their dirtpatch LoLz

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: mik jager ()
Date: January 14, 2013 11:43AM

why did they get arrested??

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 14, 2013 11:47AM

I think it was cause someone got kilt
Attachments:
KILT-STW.jpg

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Anonymoussss ()
Date: January 15, 2013 06:48AM

They were arrested due to child pornography, as stated earlier. They are minors therefore it's classified as child porn

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Fully Informed ()
Date: January 15, 2013 09:46AM

I'm certainly not familiar with this case, but based on the little we know, allow me to ask a simple question.
So minors are taking pictures of minors and that's a crime?
Fact is, each citizen has the power to decide what constitutes a crime in this country: http://fija.org/

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: SpartanBBMom ()
Date: January 15, 2013 11:50AM

I'm going to have to agree with the decline of the WS area. When we moved to the DC Metro area from the west coast, with a short stint in New Jersey, WS was a great area to raise a family. Not so, now. I have a son at WSHS, as well as, a son just starting HVES. Gotta say - Yuck! The teachers are terrible. I believe it has to do with the 'new' generation of young teachers that just don't have the patience. The kids seem to have ADDHD at all levels. The PTA, talk about clique! If you're not in the 'know', they regard you as trash. Once my son graduates HS, we'll probably look to relocate elsewhere. Maybe somewhere farther west of VA.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Wshs student ()
Date: January 27, 2013 08:46PM

As a student at Wshs and from what I've heard around school and from those who knew those arrested the three in question were picking up girls and slowly getting them drunk and then would film each other having sex with her and on occasion when she passed out they would leave her were she passed out. They would then distribute the videos to those they new. This is what I have heard from around school. I honestly don't get what all the hate for Wshs is about what did we do to get such a bad reputation? Have a food fight and now this. Honestly if a senior prank and three idiots make a school "ghetto" then essentially every school in America is "ghetto".

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: January 27, 2013 08:56PM

@Student - anyone TRULY hating on Spartan Country is f**king jealous their school and neighborhood aint half what yours is, dont let it sweat you.

@Mom - lol@u thinking Robinson, Westfields, Chantilly, or any other school west of you (or heck, North, South and East of you LoLz) in THIS county is going to somehow magically have better teachers, kids with with less ADDHD or a PTA with less of a clique

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: friskydingo ()
Date: January 27, 2013 08:58PM

@Gordon

you gooo gurrrrlll!!!!!

 

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WSHS Fail ()
Date: January 28, 2013 11:09AM

Wshs student Wrote:
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> As a student at Wshs and from what I've heard
> around school and from those who knew those
> arrested the three in question were picking up
> girls and slowly getting them drunk and then would
> film each other having sex with her and on
> occasion when she passed out they would leave her
> were she passed out. They would then distribute
> the videos to those they new. This is what I have
> heard from around school. I honestly don't get
> what all the hate for Wshs is about what did we do
> to get such a bad reputation? Have a food fight
> and now this. Honestly if a senior prank and three
> idiots make a school "ghetto" then essentially
> every school in America is "ghetto".


What did you do? This is the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen. You go to a school in FFX County and you can't even use the correct form of "new" or form grammatically correct sentences.

You say they would pick up girls and slowly get them drunk, then in the same sentence you refer to "her" and "she" as if it is one girl that this happened to. Which is it, did they pick up many random girls or was it one alchoholic girl that they knew they could exploit for sex?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Wshs student ()
Date: January 28, 2013 03:27PM

I apologize for the grammatical errors, and it was many girls. Happy now?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: NOYB ()
Date: January 29, 2013 10:39PM

These are 9th and 10th graders for God's sake! The boys who are well known as superior athletes in this school and should serve as role models to all! Instead they get caught drugging the younger female victims then tape them having sex against their own will and consent (drugs that blocked memory). These tapes are proudly shared to many and become a funny joke. Nail them to the wall! May God help them too! They have just put a nail in their own coffins. Who will accept them into a university for higher education? Who will offer them a responsible position for employment? They are tarnished for life. They have a record. And at such a tender young age! Shame on those who allowed them to get to this point! And shame on those who dis the school systems here in our community. Blame the lack of guidance and lack of morals and values that these kids are receiving from their own flesh and blood! THEIR PARENTS!! It's always someone else's fault! We, as parents, are solely responsible for the well being of our children. Teachers are responsible for teaching!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Thrilled ()
Date: January 30, 2013 07:41AM

SpartanBBMom Wrote:
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> I'm going to have to agree with the decline of the
> WS area. When we moved to the DC Metro area from
> the west coast, with a short stint in New Jersey,
> WS was a great area to raise a family. Not so,
> now. I have a son at WSHS, as well as, a son just
> starting HVES. Gotta say - Yuck! The teachers
> are terrible. I believe it has to do with the
> 'new' generation of young teachers that just don't
> have the patience. The kids seem to have ADDHD at
> all levels. The PTA, talk about clique! If
> you're not in the 'know', they regard you as
> trash. Once my son graduates HS, we'll probably
> look to relocate elsewhere. Maybe somewhere
> farther west of VA.

Believe all of us when we say there is a HUGE group of parents reading this from HVES & WSHS that are thrilled at the thought of you moving out of this area Mrs. Jennifer Redick!!!!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: brandgrl ()
Date: January 30, 2013 10:20AM

In response to SpartanBBMom.

Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion. And while I won't say that I think every teacher is the best teacher at HVES, I would say there are some great teachers there. Guess what...it's that way EVERYWHERE. Have you ever taught?? Do you have a degree in education that allows you to judge how teaching fails or succeeds?

Several things here:

FIRST - It's either ADD or ADHD. I am not sure what ADDHD is. However, I would say this. Your youngest likely has one of them. No one has regarded you as trash, but we have certainly commented on the fact that your nose stays buried in a book while your son hits other kids and take their toys in the pool. Maybe, if you were actually parenting him, rather than letting him do whatever the heck he wants, then you would not get funny stares. It's not fair to him and it's not fair to the other kids.

SECOND - I don't recall EVER seeing you at a single PTA meeting. EVER. So here's the thing, once you attend one and TRY to actually talk to people and get to them, THEN you may judge if it is a clique or not. It's always amusing to have parents who NEVER volunteer and NEVER lift a finger for the school judge the VOLUNTEERS who spend countless hours at the school raising money and making sure your child has a computer in his classroom. Here's the thing sweetie, we are not in high school any longer. If you have acceptance issues that you are carrying over from your middle and high school days, don't bring them to an elementary school PTA. The fact is that many PTA people are "friends." Yes, the word here is FRIENDS. The PTA constantly encourages others to join in on the fun and NEVER turns anyone away who wants to be "in." So, here's a thought, we have a few open chair positions and would love to have you join in on helping the school. Send an email to board and let them know you want to be involved. You likely won't, because you will be sitting at home judging everyone, having never lifted a finger. Volunteer, then you can talk. Have you ever attended a county board meeting?

THIRD - Please do move. We are a community of people who help each other. You obviously don't fit in to that mold. You'd rather be a stone thrower and need to live in an area that is full of gossip and 90210 type activity. How's this - we will all help you with smiles on our faces? No one has ever deemed you trash or anyone else in this area and I don't deem you that now. But I do deem you judgmental and clueless.

As for the original thread, I hope that whatever the case is, that the school pays close attention to it and makes changes wherever they need to both HELP their students and the community. That's all that any of us can advocate for and hope for.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: ExStudent ()
Date: January 30, 2013 11:31AM

The problem is the parenting, and the coaches. Plain and simple. The coaches promote disrespecting women/girls and getting drunk, the parents don't give a shit or teach their children any personal responsibility. The kids are hardly ever held responsible for their actions and any excuse is used as a reason why they've done something wrong.

To many parents, stop not giving a shit about your kids. Teach them personal responsibility, make them get a job and pay their car insurance, gas, and a partial cell phone bill. Teach them that getting a good job is important. Stop enabling them to be fucking idiots by giving them everything for free and having no rules.

Maybe you'll see a change and they'll go to college or get a trade and be able to support themselves without moving into a house with a bunch of idiot friends. If your child works at One of the restaurants in the WS plaza area they probably smoke pot.

Get your heads out of your asses and stop making excuses for your children's mistakes. Realize that you've been failing as a parent and take charge.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: masonnation ()
Date: January 30, 2013 12:55PM

Wow, you guys are a tough bunch! Mom is just stating her opinion. Although, I don't necessarily agree with all of her assessments.

@Thrilled - Why the need to name names. Is it a fact? Totally uncalled for.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: brandgrl ()
Date: January 30, 2013 01:11PM

No, she isn't only stating her opinions.

She CLEARLY speaks on behalf of a group on their behalf. She states that they think people are trash. That's not opinion. She has no right to assume the role and speak for the group on what they think.

Everything else is her opinion.Yes.

It's actually kind of funny she is called out. It proves that the person stating these opinions is full of crap. Someone who never sets a foot in the school to help - EVER. EVER. Did I say EVER? Ah yes...EVER.

Come volunteer - then judge.



masonnation Wrote:
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> Wow, you guys are a tough bunch! Mom is just
> stating her opinion. Although, I don't
> necessarily agree with all of her assessments.
>
> @Thrilled - Why the need to name names. Is it a
> fact? Totally uncalled for.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: HV/WSParent ()
Date: January 30, 2013 06:32PM

Wow, I just can't refrain from weighing in on this ...

I couldn't agree more @brandgrl. As a former PTAer and loyal volunteer for many, many years ... it's a job! The many hours that some of us choose to put in as a volunteer and/or board member becomes like a part time job. With no pay! The rewards are huge though in other ways. Like witnessing the positive benefits and influences you help bring to not just one student but hundreds! And getting to work with good people ("friends") who feel that passion too is the icing on the cake. That's what separates you brandgrl from people like this Redick lady whoever she is? Keep up the good work!

@SpartanBBMom It's a shame that you who clearly knows nothing about the HVE school can knock the most important people involved in enriching your childs learning over there ... the teachers and the PTA! Step up and volunteer and get to know these incredibly hard working and dedicated individuals before you publicly rip them to shreads! Many of the teachers at HV are young, educated, and well deserving of the positions they hold. And they truly do have patience and love the kids they share their days with all year. Have you even shared your "Yuck" with your kids teacher(s)? Maybe there is something you can do to help make things better for him or her? Perhaps just sit in on a class or stand in as a room parent and see for yourself that it is a good school. Sitting on the sidelines in judgement of others is never a good place to be. It's gets very, very lonely.

@masonnation - truly sorry you had to see all of this and yes we are a tough bunch when we are being publicly insulted. Your Mom is wrong and this community is a great place to live. Those of us who are willing to give it a chance know best. There are plenty of good, decent, and loyal community members here that truly do care. And we don't do well with comments that have no truth or merit.

And as a WSHS parent I will say I am proud to be a Spartan! None of what happened to those 3 boys affects my life at all but it is still very sad for them and their families and most importantly their victims. What they did was not only legally wrong but morally wrong. Hopefully the system will take care of the legal wrong and somehow they can repair themselves morally.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: fair enough ()
Date: January 31, 2013 01:02AM

"A few thoughts" seems to have the most balanced and fair views. A dedicated student who is willing to put the work in (and stay out of trouble) can do well at West Springfield, and indeed many do. That is why the whining of many parents is a bit hollow. The real challenge as a parent to help your kid grab the most resources out of a school - the kid's job - to be sure - but a parent can help, mostly behind the scenes. (And for those who are college bound, the challenge of getting the most resources out of our increasingly overpriced colleges is even higher, so parental whining may even have a negative impact down the road).

I am not sure what the County will do as urbanization increases. For some reason, after initial gains in the 70's and 80's, gaps in achievement between racial groups occur virtually everywhere no matter what form of curriculum or method of instruction is adopted. Once a certain critical mass of population of low achieving groups is hit, a school really changes, and there are difficulties in attracting and retaining top performing students (and their parents, too). While there are a small minority of poor performing teachers and administrators, the vast majority in Fairfax are competent or even better and these competent personnel become the unwitting target for patters of underachievement and poor conduct, although frankly in many cases the cultural and family (and yes, IQ, too) deficiencies these kids bring don't leave school personnel with a lot of viable options. And there is no way education staff could ever be so politically incorrect as to state these truths. The achievenment gap is the elephant in the room in all of our schools, and indeed is and will be the primary cause of migrations in our suburban area, $4.00 gasoline or not.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: PTAmomWannabe ()
Date: January 31, 2013 07:08AM

brandgrl Wrote:
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> In response to SpartanBBMom.
>
> Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion. And
> while I won't say that I think every teacher is
> the best teacher at HVES, I would say there are
> some great teachers there. Guess what...it's that
> way EVERYWHERE. Have you ever taught?? Do you have
> a degree in education that allows you to judge how
> teaching fails or succeeds?
>
> Several things here:
>
> FIRST - It's either ADD or ADHD. I am not sure
> what ADDHD is. However, I would say this. Your
> youngest likely has one of them. No one has
> regarded you as trash, but we have certainly
> commented on the fact that your nose stays buried
> in a book while your son hits other kids and take
> their toys in the pool. Maybe, if you were
> actually parenting him, rather than letting him do
> whatever the heck he wants, then you would not get
> funny stares. It's not fair to him and it's not
> fair to the other kids.
>
> SECOND - I don't recall EVER seeing you at a
> single PTA meeting. EVER. So here's the thing,
> once you attend one and TRY to actually talk to
> people and get to them, THEN you may judge if it
> is a clique or not. It's always amusing to have
> parents who NEVER volunteer and NEVER lift a
> finger for the school judge the VOLUNTEERS who
> spend countless hours at the school raising money
> and making sure your child has a computer in his
> classroom. Here's the thing sweetie, we are not in
> high school any longer. If you have acceptance
> issues that you are carrying over from your middle
> and high school days, don't bring them to an
> elementary school PTA. The fact is that many PTA
> people are "friends." Yes, the word here is
> FRIENDS. The PTA constantly encourages others to
> join in on the fun and NEVER turns anyone away who
> wants to be "in." So, here's a thought, we have a
> few open chair positions and would love to have
> you join in on helping the school. Send an email
> to board and let them know you want to be
> involved. You likely won't, because you will be
> sitting at home judging everyone, having never
> lifted a finger. Volunteer, then you can talk.
> Have you ever attended a county board meeting?
>
> THIRD - Please do move. We are a community of
> people who help each other. You obviously don't
> fit in to that mold. You'd rather be a stone
> thrower and need to live in an area that is full
> of gossip and 90210 type activity. How's this - we
> will all help you with smiles on our faces? No one
> has ever deemed you trash or anyone else in this
> area and I don't deem you that now. But I do deem
> you judgmental and clueless.
>
> As for the original thread, I hope that whatever
> the case is, that the school pays close attention
> to it and makes changes wherever they need to both
> HELP their students and the community. That's all
> that any of us can advocate for and hope for.

Wow Bandgrl - your PTA sounds like a load of fun! I'm pretty clueless, myself, and I would love to have a friend like you!! It's so wonderful that you would be willing to diagnose my kid for me and do it with a smile on your face, too. Not everyone appreciates the hard work and many sacrifices that you make, but I do. It's a crying shame that more people are not willing to lift a finger to support your cause. Shame on you SpartanBB.

Most of the PTAs are boring places where you have to devote your time doing piddly things like stuffing take home folders, organizing events, helping out in the library, etc. Sounds like Bandgrl and her posse have gotten into the real *meat* of the situation - you go grl.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Bystanderr ()
Date: January 31, 2013 11:25AM

How did this get into a debate about PTAs....BORING! Housewives get off this forum! Leave the menfolk to their work.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: PTAmomWannaBe ()
Date: January 31, 2013 12:41PM

Bystanderr Wrote:
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> How did this get into a debate about
> PTAs....BORING! Housewives get off this forum!
> Leave the menfolk to their work.

Oh, I'm pretty sure that there were some "menfolk" involved in that little cat fight (or at least they didn't sound like REAL PTA parents). Just tryin' to liven things up a bit...

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: HappyFeet ()
Date: January 31, 2013 04:25PM

Wa-Wa-Wa You women are a bunch of whiners!
Hubbie not there to rub your feet? Save your preaching for the choir. I guess that's what happens when your marriage sucks.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: PTAmomWannabe ()
Date: January 31, 2013 04:36PM

HappyFeet Wrote:
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> Wa-Wa-Wa You women are a bunch of whiners!
> Hubbie not there to rub your feet? Save your
> preaching for the choir. I guess that's what
> happens when your marriage sucks.

I'll preach to whatever choir I want to preach to bozo. Anyways I got bigger fish to fry than your lame azz. Toot-a-loo.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Lawyer ()
Date: January 31, 2013 04:51PM

I am attorney who currently represents 2 of the victims in this case. We are trying to locate the others. My office is preparing a multi-million dollar lawsuit that will name the young men involved, their parents, the FCPS system, and any other individuals involved in hopes of getting proper compensation for the victims. These young ladies have been severly traumatized by this incident and will face years of counseling and therapy! Their innocence was stolen by the young men responsible and their lives have been changed forever! My hope is to have the young men responsible pay compensation (through wage garnishments) to these young ladies for the rest of their lives, so they never forget this incident!

If anyone knows the victims in this terrible incident, please have them contact me.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: S&W ()
Date: January 31, 2013 05:03PM

@ Lawyer

"I am attorney ..."

Really?

Should we send a check to a bank in Nigeria?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Slur Pee ()
Date: January 31, 2013 05:33PM

Nooo I yam thinnking youu should pay at thee 7-11....pleeze watch out for camel poo...

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: NBC 4 ()
Date: February 01, 2013 07:19PM

@Lawyer Hello, We're following up the story tonight if you could please give us a phone call at 202-885-4111. Thank you!!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: February 01, 2013 07:23PM

FAIRFAX, Va. - Three students at West Springfield High School have been arrested and accused of running a child exploitation ring.


The students are teenage boys, two 16-year-olds and a 15-year-old.

The alleged victims are six girls, also teenagers, attending local area high schools.

We have learned the child exploitation ring was first uncovered at West Springfield High School last November. After a one-month investigation, Fairfax County Police arrested three students at the high school on January 11. The charged students are said to be student athletes.

The students allegedly drugged the girls, had sex with them, videotaped the entire episode and then distributed the tapes.

The students are charged with possession, reproduction, distribution, solicitation and facilitation of child pornography.

Police can't give a lot of details about what happened because these are all juveniles involved.

Police say all the victims and suspects knew each other. Police don't know if there are more alleged victims.

The investigation is ongoing



Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/20938492/3-west-springfield-high-school-students-arrested#ixzz2JhExWeG6

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WHAT Else is new ()
Date: February 01, 2013 07:42PM

When is this school not in the news?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Jesus Phreak ()
Date: February 01, 2013 07:52PM

"child exploitation ring"

"The students allegedly drugged the girls, had sex with them, videotaped the entire episode and then distributed the tapes."





Pretty epic. These kids will be legandary at West Springfield for years to come. I bet those girls will be attending one of the local private schools for the remainder of their high school years.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: NebraskaMom ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:00PM

My child said the three boys are STILL IN SCHOOL!?! They are walking around like they own the place. The entire student body is talking about it! Why has Principal Greenfelder not suspended them?? Is this acceptable at West SpringField? I am sure they will make this story info a Lifetime movie in the future!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: wbow ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:02PM

NebraskaMom Wrote:
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> My child said the three boys are STILL IN
> SCHOOL!?! They are walking around like they own
> the place. The entire student body is talking
> about it! Why has Principal Greenfelder not
> suspended them?? Is this acceptable at West
> SpringField? I am sure they will make this story
> info a Lifetime movie in the future!


Its interesting students saw them get arrested. and they are still in this school.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WSHS STUDENT ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:05PM

NebraskaMom Wrote:
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> My child said the three boys are STILL IN
> SCHOOL!?! They are walking around like they own
> the place. The entire student body is talking
> about it! Why has Principal Greenfelder not
> suspended them?? Is this acceptable at West
> SpringField? I am sure they will make this story
> info a Lifetime movie in the future!


SHE's right. I guess they wanted to keep in the down low. but since is on the news meida those kids won't come back monday.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: JustMyTwoCents ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:18PM

Pretty strange stuff going on up at West Springfield. And these kids are only sophomores? Wow.

Apparently one of the kids that was arrested is a heavily recruited, standout football and baseball player who's biggest seasons were ahead of him.

Something like this happening really makes a parent of a high school student (especially girl) wonder where their kid is at all times.

However, I noticed the media refer to the girls as "victims" which I feel shows somewhat of a situational bias. Nobody except those directly involved knows exactly what happened and it is human nature to take seldom details and run with them, often jumping to hasty conclusions.

Whatever the case may be, this is a black eye for West Springfield and really the worst imaginable. Despite all the controversy that came along with Wardinski's tenure, nothing of this magnitude (or relatively close) ever came about. And please do not mention the food fight, that was harmless compared to this incident.

One has to wonder if it is a generational thing rather than a school administrative issue. Maybe I am naive, but I honestly was not aware that 15 year olds were doing these kinds of things....

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Ya Boy ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:24PM

All dudes in high school think about is having sex with girls. These guys took it to another level. And I am sure these girls aren't exactly innocent either.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: WSstudent ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:26PM

All of you are stupid, the girls involved in the sex tapes walk around as if they were never involved in being taped. As far as the school goes it really isn't that bad, yes there are kids that screw up but that is NOT the whole school. You guys are only getting the skin on top of the orange and not the orange it's self. Stop acting like this school is such a bad place when it truly isn't.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: John_Doe ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:28PM

Reading this story reminded me a lot of that 1995 film "Kids". You would be very surprised what your kids are doing at relatively young ages.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Knowall ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:28PM

Every school has there share of sluts just move on and continue with your hating lives

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: bugslife ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:35PM

There are well behaved polite students at WSHS.

There are well behaved athletes at WSHS.

There are some very good educators at WSHS.

Lack of parenting is why situations like this happen.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: More Complete ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:35PM

WSstudent Wrote:
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> All of you are stupid, the girls involved in the
> sex tapes walk around as if they were never
> involved in being taped.

Not sure I understand your point.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Bill C. ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:37PM

Where are the videos?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: West springfield student ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:38PM

I go to the school and have answers to any question about the issue.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: CALL NBC ()
Date: February 01, 2013 08:40PM

West springfield student Wrote:
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> I go to the school and have answers to any
> question about the issue.


phone call at 202-885-4111. Thank you!! YOu will remain anonymous

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: EX WSHS Student ()
Date: February 01, 2013 09:07PM

I can't vouch for everyone at west Springfield high, but were generally NOT thugs. Stoners? mabey a little bit. Everyone enjoys weed. Get over it. The 3 boys that got arrest are the exact opposite acually. They are athletes and quite popular. I personally know the 3 boys that were arrested in school. And I know exactly how it feels. I was taken out of class and arrested just a few weeks before their incedent occurred. It's not fun obviously, but the school really tries to manipulate you to get you in the largest amount of trouble possible. The reason the 3 kids did not get suspended or expelled from school is because they didn't do anything illegal inside school. The school should not have any jurisdiction over this becase it simply doesn't involve the school. I do completely understand why parents don't want the 3 kids in school with their own kids. But if they parent their kids well enough, then kids will know well enough to not talk to these boys or anyone that is involved in illegal activities. It's wrong what these boys but kicking them Out of school which is possibly one of the only positive places they have is not the answer.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: player ()
Date: February 01, 2013 09:31PM

ben armstrong?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Disappointed in HVES PTA ()
Date: February 01, 2013 09:32PM

I just have to say that I too have experienced HVES PTAs obnoxious ways. These women do not make anyone want to join. They are a group who only speak to each other. I have contacted FCPS and put a formal complain in place about this. They are destroying HV and should be ashamed of themselves. It's fine to have friendships but they make people feel very very unwelcome. Hopefully a new Principal will come in and take care of them next year. Nightmares!

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Wshs alumn ()
Date: February 01, 2013 09:44PM

Wshs has had it's fair share of issues over the past years. Anything from kids daring each other to drink chemicals in chem for money to accidentally setting trash cans on fire;food fights, bomb threats, suicides,drugs, and now this.
Fox got something wrong however. The girls were not drugged, but drunk. They all drank willingly. I honestly feel bad for everyone involved in this mess.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Concerned Parent :/ ()
Date: February 01, 2013 09:54PM

can someone confirm what player said? is Ben Armstrong one of the boys involved? i hate to name drop people but he has had his struggles and he is close with my son, id like confirmation please.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Corey Gonzalez ()
Date: February 01, 2013 09:57PM

hahaha this is funny as hell, these girls were hoes, these guys did nothing but do what most teens do and that is drink and try to get girls in bed. lucky for them these girls were willing, anyone find it odd that these girls didnt report it? only reason people know about this is because the tape got out...my thing is , if these girls are as innocent as LAWYER claims why would they not tell? these young mens lives hang in the balance and with child porn charges hanging over there heads, i hope the truth comes out and they get a fair trial.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: danknasty ()
Date: February 01, 2013 10:01PM

when i attended WSHS it was all about Weed. 04-08 . we partied hard, listened to mr.griffen try to get with our girls, we did drugs, but we all graduated. my question is whats the big deal with all this shit about WSHS kids being thugs? thugs drop out, we stay in to party , there is a major diff.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: FRedsxn ()
Date: February 01, 2013 10:02PM

I BELIEVE BEN ARMSTRONG WAS ONE OF THE YOUNG MEN INVOLVED.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Carl's jr ()
Date: February 01, 2013 10:53PM

There are no heavily recruited players at WSHS so all these posts are lies by old men in oakton.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Old school ()
Date: February 01, 2013 11:25PM

I've been here over thirty years and you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: The smart one ()
Date: February 01, 2013 11:26PM

Any questioning done with a minor without a parnt or guardian present is inadmissable in court.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: stud] ()
Date: February 01, 2013 11:30PM

The smart one Wrote:
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> Any questioning done with a minor without a parnt
> or guardian present is inadmissable in court.

I herd they where arrested on January 11th, year of lord of 2013. Not sure why they are talking about it now. but I think they talked to their parents after they where arrested, typical fcps

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: twitteriu ()
Date: February 01, 2013 11:36PM

Look at Fernando
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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: PleaseRespectTheirRights ()
Date: February 02, 2013 12:46AM

To the MODERATOR:

Please edit out these kids' names. Let this discussion carry on WITHOUT naming underage kids, either accused or alleged victims.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Jesus Phreak ()
Date: February 02, 2013 12:49AM

Concerned Parent :/ Wrote:
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> can someone confirm what player said? is Ben
> Armstrong one of the boys involved? i hate to name
> drop people but he has had his struggles and he is
> close with my son, id like confirmation please.


Bitchhhh, if he is close to your son, then ask your son! I'm sure at this point it is obvious to any West Springfield student paying attention who the students were.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Jesus Phreak ()
Date: February 02, 2013 12:50AM

PleaseRespectTheirRights Wrote:
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> To the MODERATOR:
>
> Please edit out these kids' names. Let this
> discussion carry on WITHOUT naming underage kids,
> either accused or alleged victims.


not likely to happen

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Student77 ()
Date: February 02, 2013 02:26AM

No your sons friend was not involved in this.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: spartanalum ()
Date: February 02, 2013 02:42AM

@oldschool go back to oakton ya old head and hop off! these girls shouldn't have put themselves in that situation.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: kdog ()
Date: February 02, 2013 06:45AM

FUCKIN RAISE YOUR KIDS CORRECTLY AND THEY WILL NOT BE "THUGS" lol. We live in burke/West springfield and the closest thing to a thug I know is...........immagrants WHICH MOST ARE HARD WORKING. SHIT MOST OF YOU PARENTS ARE PROBABLY SMOKING TOO! Such a shame all of you put on your cape and mask before you go out EVERYDAY. And if it were girls being taken to get drunk! WHOS FAULT IS IT?!?!?! THE PARENTS TELLING THEIR KIDS ONE SIMPLE WORD which is "okay" honey!
DONT SIT HERE AND BITCH ABOUT HOW FCPS NEEED TO CRACK DOWN.....Take care of your kids and worry about yourself rather than others....YOU ARE TO BUSY WORRYING ABOUT HOW THE AREAS DOING WHILE YOUR KIDS ARE RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSES GETTING HIGH OR DRUNK.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Oh Noes ()
Date: February 02, 2013 06:45AM

Three West Springfield High School students have been arrested and charged in a child exploitation ring.

The boys are accused of getting teenage girls drunk and making sex tapes. The tapes were made sometimes after the girls had passed out.

The accused teenagers were arrested at West Springfield High School on January 11. One of them is 15 years old. The other two are 16 years old.

Fairfax County police say the accused students victimized six local teenage high school girls in an online porn distribution ring. Some of the girls attended West Springfield High School.

All the suspects and all the alleged victims knew each other.

The sex tapes were reportedly shared among students both on and offline.

It isn't clear when the tapes were made, but the case came to light when a school resource officer learned about sex tapes going around at the school on November 29, 2012. The discovery triggered a police investigation.

The teenage boys are charged with possession, reproduction, distribution, solicitation and facilitation of child pornography.

Police aren't sure if there are more alleged victims.

The accused could face more charges as the investigation continues.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: bugslife ()
Date: February 02, 2013 07:35AM

Students names shouldn't be posted!

What happened is wrong, let the legal system take care of this situation.

West Springfield high is a good school with a lot of community support and pride.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: bugslife ()
Date: February 02, 2013 07:42AM

PTA Drama

In the big scheme of life......is this something to worry about?

I hope this is the only thing that you ever have to stress over.

Filing a formal complaint to the county........they have bigger thinigs on their plate than this.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: need a reality check ()
Date: February 02, 2013 09:03AM

stud] Wrote:
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> I herd they where arrested on January 11th, year
> of lord of 2013. Not sure why they are talking
> about it now. but I think they talked to their
> parents after they where arrested, typical fcps


So the cops show up with an arrest warrant and the principal's supposed to stop the cops so he can call the parent? How exactly is he supposed to do that? I am sure the police would be happy to wait in the teacher's lounge until the parents make their way down to school to watch their kids get arrested.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: West Springfield mom ()
Date: February 02, 2013 09:41AM

Wow, if convicted will these boys be on the Child Molester registry?

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: UDA ()
Date: February 02, 2013 09:51AM

And if the video was shared online, anyone who has the video on a computer or other device is in possession of child porn.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: annie oakley ()
Date: February 02, 2013 10:51AM

even if you erase the tape off your computer it will always be traceable. You all can't hide forever.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Bullshit Choir ()
Date: February 02, 2013 11:32AM

West Springfield mom Wrote:
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> Wow, if convicted will these boys be on the Child
> Molester registry?

Usually for minors convicted of sex offenses they're placed on the sex offender registry for a term of years, like 10 years or so. If they keep their noses clean, then their names come off the registry.

I see that the choir is already warming up with the usual bullshit refrain of "they're good kids, they shouldn't have their lives ruined forever" that's so popular in Fairfax county.

The TRUTH is that the little fucking scumbags who pull this kind of shit laugh about the bullet they figuratively dodged when the expensive attorneys their parents hire manage to get them off with a slap on the wrist. I predict that these kids will be no different.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Old school ()
Date: February 02, 2013 11:39AM

These kids need to be prosecuted.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Blam ()
Date: February 02, 2013 12:20PM

I remember when West Springfield was just a place where you got your head smashed in with a hammer.. or you were thrown through one of those wire reinforced windows. Perhaps one or 2 kids ODed or got killed in car accidents..

Now a child pornography ring? My my, have the times changed..

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: Bulldoggy ()
Date: February 02, 2013 12:34PM

FUNdamental Wrote:
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> Can we assume they were they transfers from
> Westfield?


Can we asssume you are still in your Mom's basement, eating poptarts and playing video games? Time to grow up, your 30.

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Re: West Springfield High arrest
Posted by: spartanalum ()
Date: February 02, 2013 01:00PM

both the boys and girls were embarrassed and traumatized. The boys will be registered as sex offenders for years and that will be enough. They just need to be given a shit load of community service hours.

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