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Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 16, 2006 09:08PM


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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: MrDoctor ()
Date: January 16, 2006 09:10PM

what a shithead
ugly bitch



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/16/2006 09:11PM by MrDoctor.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 16, 2006 11:24PM

"THOMAS ","HEATHER "," ","038"," 14822","MILLICENT ","CT","CENTREVILLE ","VA","11/29/2004","PT LARC-OTHER "

I wonder if this is the same woman?

petty larceny??? She's an old lady, I wonder what she did to get that charge..

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 16, 2006 11:34PM

OK it's the same lady.. she's going down hard with a prior like that...

I was able to mostly answer my own question. The complaintant on her larceny charge is JC Penny's. Why you would even steal from there is anyone's guess.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: MrDoctor ()
Date: January 17, 2006 01:08AM

does that store even exist anymore

reston pm

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: stinkypoon ()
Date: January 17, 2006 11:09AM

let's see here... she has a mullett, is a 38 yr old grandmother (used to be, at least), and steals from department stores. when did fairfax county start importing trailer trash? i thought we were transitioning to illegal immigrants.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 17, 2006 04:18PM

I think it is time to make Granny the victim of Shaken Bitch Syndrome.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 17, 2006 05:35PM

She was not "imported". She has lived here for years.

Does anyone know what the process is? I would have thought something would have been reported today on the status (ex. guilty or innocent plea, bail set, etc.). She has not even shown up on any of the Fairfax County websites. Just wondering.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: MrDoctor ()
Date: January 17, 2006 05:59PM

damn 38 yr old grandmother, i wonder what her daughter looks like and how old

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 17, 2006 06:12PM

Her daughter is 19.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 17, 2006 06:13PM

good call momto4, it happened long enough ago where it should be available info

maybe it's a domestic and juvenile court case (domestic because she killed her granddaughter)? those may not get disclosed to the public in the same "sound the trumpets" way the ticket search gets it done with all of our common misdeeds.

BTW that lady is 40 going on 70. I can't believe she's only a decade older than me. 38 and a gramma, that's fucking wierd.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 17, 2006 06:22PM

No. She is charged with Involuntary Manslaughter in the General District Court.

Anyone care to call the magistrate in Fairfax and find out if she was released on bail?

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 17, 2006 06:23PM

Also, it happened long ago enough, but she was just charged and turned herself in on Friday.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 18, 2006 12:02AM

ehh... as far as i figure, one less screw up in the world. idiocy breeds idiocy. i guess that baby should have shut the fuck up.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2006 12:02AM by Gravis.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 18, 2006 06:15PM

To bad no one told your parents that little tidbit of info.

I know that you do not really believe that and you are just trying to incite negativity. That one little snap is all I will respond to any of your nasty comments.

A five day old baby needs to be remembered and that "Grandmother" needs to be punished. I know you are not cold hearted and feel the same way. Your smartass comments are forgiven.

Take it easy.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 18, 2006 06:48PM

Holy shit

I wonder if it was a rape baby or a crack baby or something? Those crack babies never shut up, it's enough to drive you to murder.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: January 18, 2006 10:16PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> Holy shit
>
> I wonder if it was a rape baby or a crack baby or
> something? Those crack babies never shut up, it's
> enough to drive you to murder.


I take it you are the father of several crack babies, judging from your firsthand experinece. It would certainly explain your lust for Dupont Circle man crack.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 19, 2006 01:54PM

that made zero sense...

your comments would have more bite if they made sense.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 19, 2006 04:34PM

Just found out she is out of jail. Do not know if it is on bail or what. I hope she enjoys her time being free and goes back in soon.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 19, 2006 04:56PM

She just needs a stern talking-to about Shaken Baby Syndrome.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: stinkypoon ()
Date: January 19, 2006 10:37PM

look at her picture. something tells me she is living testimony to the effects of Shaken Baby Syndrome

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 19, 2006 11:34PM


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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: MrDoctor ()
Date: January 19, 2006 11:47PM

Crissmis Noelle Reese Jones

damn that name sounds like a christmas carol

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: PaperPusher ()
Date: January 20, 2006 12:01AM

Anyone want to wager that it wasn't the grandmother who did the shaking? My guess is that the mother did the shaking but the grandma would rather go to jail for it than see her daughter go.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: MrDoctor ()
Date: January 20, 2006 12:03AM

i believe it, a 19 year old kid that names their child crissmiss noelle resse.. yup
crackheads

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 21, 2006 02:17AM

Momto4 Wrote:
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> Just found out she is out of jail. Do not know if
> it is on bail or what. I hope she enjoys her time
> being free and goes back in soon.

she's not out of jail. as the article ( http://www.timescommunity.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15960492&BRD=2553&PAG=461&dept_id=507243&rfi=8 ) says:
"Thomas is being held without bond in the Fairfax County Jail awaiting trial at 1:30 p.m. Feb. 7 in Juvenile and Domestic Relations District Court."


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 21, 2006 11:12AM

I found that article and posted it on here after I said that. When I called the jail that day, they told me "She is no longer here." Well, guess they were wrong, or the paper is.


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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Genevieve ()
Date: January 21, 2006 12:38PM

Momto4,

Do you have some sort of personal involvement in this case?

Don't get me wrong, it is very tragic and whoever did the shaking needs to be punished- beyond the death of a baby and public humiliation.

But you are almost obsessively following the case- and even called the jail!

Am I missing something?

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: qwert ()
Date: January 21, 2006 12:42PM

Genevieve Wrote:
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> Momto4,
>
> Do you have some sort of personal involvement in
> this case?
>
> Don't get me wrong, it is very tragic and whoever
> did the shaking needs to be punished- beyond the
> death of a baby and public humiliation.
>
> But you are almost obsessively following the case-
> and even called the jail!
>
> Am I missing something?

I had the same thought . . .

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: WashingToneLoc-ian ()
Date: January 21, 2006 01:47PM

Momto4 Wrote:
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> I found that article and posted it on here after I
> said that. When I called the jail that day, they
> told me "She is no longer here." Well, guess they
> were wrong, or the paper is.
>
>



I echo the others. Get a life.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: January 21, 2006 08:15PM

Yes, I have personal involvement.
I posted originally to see if I could get info about the system from anyone here. Seemed to me when I read other topics, people followed the police goings on quite closely and maybe could help me out. I can see by the immaturity of the posters here that for the most part, there are just a bunch of kids here wanting to know where to get drugs and trying to be more obnoxious then the next punk to post. My mistake for thinking Fairfax Underground might have all different types of Fairfax residents represented. I guess I was the ignorant one for not thinking about the name "Fairfax Underground." After all, the slimiest of things hang out underground. This apparently is no exception.
17 years ago, this evil woman put my 3 month old in the hospital with major head injuries. I have personal involvement. I want her put away for as long as posable.
I will be gone from this site. As I said, I thought there might be someone here who could maybe give me info, and I needed to vent. Sorry to interrupt your "important" discussion of where to get your next fix and why the police are pulling over that guy to give him a ticket.
Take care.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: mad max, JD ()
Date: January 21, 2006 08:26PM

"posable"? Good riddance. Free internet sites are not the place to get any kind of reliable information on matters that are of any importance to you. Tough shit, I need a fix.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Genevieve ()
Date: January 21, 2006 09:01PM

Well perhaps Momto4 would have gotten more help if she had been up front about her interest in the first place. If someone put my kid in the hospital (not that I actually have kids) I'd want them severely punished. I can understand that.

In the meantime, I am going back to being slimy. Time for one of my famous keylime margaritas...mmmmm.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 22, 2006 08:25AM

indeed... when you do not state that you are looking for further information there is not much chance you will find any.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: TRICKIE ()
Date: January 22, 2006 03:42PM

I feel sorry for Mom of4. Having some monster abuse a child in her care must be awful. I can certainly understand why Mom of4 was interested in this case. I only hope that years before, this irresponsible caretaker ( grandmother) was reported to authorities for her actions.

On the other hand, I think this Fairfax Underground is a very informative web site. Much of the information is reliable and helpful. Sure you may have to weed through some of the posts but overall, the writers are helpful and entertaining. And I certainly do not consider myself a slimy denizen of the underground looking for my next fix. Also we are not all kids. I am in my fifties!!!

Trickie

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: January 22, 2006 06:55PM

I think momto4 is the real monster here. She left her child in the hands of a dangerous psychopath, perhaps knowingly. She is shameful and her children should be made wards of the state for their own safety.

Now, where can I score some coke? And a bag of weed.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 23, 2006 03:35AM

RESton Peace,
  your insight continues to amaze even the toughest critic. i for one would like to welcome our new slanderous overlord.

really though... i need some brown sugar bad... im seriously fiending. it's especially hard since my cokehead cat keeps stealing my money. RESton Peace, perhaps my cat can get you the hookup but he's more likely to steal your cash.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: xoxox ()
Date: January 23, 2006 12:23PM

you guys are really hard on poeple. Momto4 obviously does care about her kids. if i can recall she had mentioned loosing contact with this monster. she probably also didnt think this lady was going to have another oppertunity to hurt another child, let alone KILL one. do you not see that she cares about that baby? and she didnt even know it. amazing.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: shithead ()
Date: January 23, 2006 12:26PM

momto4 gives some great head. That toothless bitch really knows howe to polish the nob. Kudos to her and her molarless dome.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: stinkypoon ()
Date: January 23, 2006 03:15PM


you, shithead, are a bottom-feeder. you exist for no other reason than to make the world a worse place.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: shithead ()
Date: January 24, 2006 04:42PM

Stinky, I should have added that your mother loves the cock almost as much as Momto4. Congrats on being her offspring, douchebag.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: James ()
Date: January 25, 2006 12:53PM

Stinkypoop, you are also a bottom feeder - your comments are uncalled for and immature. Get a life, fatty.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Paul ()
Date: January 25, 2006 12:57PM

If we could see Stinkypoon, he would be a testament to Shaken Baby Syndrome!!!!!!

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: rush ()
Date: January 05, 2007 01:47PM

yo shes a fuckin bitch ass pussy fer killin the baby
she deserves to die and fuckin burn in hell ill even kill her cuz no one deserves to have no chance to live
shes a bithch ass dick suckin bitch
peace out a-town

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: § ()
Date: January 05, 2007 04:12PM

Here's a little diddy about Grannys some of you might recall.....

Yea..
Ah yea...
Agh yea this one's dedicated to all
the ladies in the front , the back
All the older ladies out there
lookin' nice, you know who you are
whoo...

I need you, boomin' granny
I said I want you, boomin' granny
Boomin' granny, boomin' granny
Boomin' granny, good and plenty

Well it might sound odd, it might sound corny
But here's some sex rhymes for those that are horny
For your boomin' granny with the boomin' system
Said I love ya won't leave ya so you got to listen
See I'm talkin' about the way that I'm feeling
You're so lovely lengthy and so appealing
A sassy sophisticated sexy lady
Well I'm 26 and you're 80
The clock is ticking so you better not front
We can go downtown and we could smoke some blunt
Well you're a Golden Girl, just like Bea Arthur
Just turn down the lights so we can go farther

Boomin' granny, boomin' granny
Boomin' granny, good and plenty

Because I saw ya at the check out line
You dropped your coupons and you were looking fine
Sophisticated, and so mature
I couldn't really care if you're 50 or 74
Because I want ya, and I need ya
Hey boomin' granny you could be my teacher
And I could be your pet, bet
Listen old lady I'm gonna make ya sweat!
I know I'm younger, and your much older
You look so nice on my Chevy Nova
I'm gonna take her to the low rider show, and flaunt ya
I gotta tell ya lady I said I want ya, boomin' granny

Because I need you boomin' granny
Boomin' granny, boomin' fanny
Boomin' granny, good and plenty


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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 06, 2007 01:38PM

seriously, keep the posting of lyrics restricted to your own stupid ass journal.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: SaMiViMa ()
Date: January 10, 2007 08:59PM

Apparently, she got away with it. Very sad.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: § ()
Date: January 11, 2007 11:41AM

Gravis Wrote:
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> seriously, keep the posting of lyrics restricted
> to your own stupid ass journal.


I do what I please you fat, hungry chinchilla. -§

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: January 11, 2007 01:02PM

SaMiViMa Wrote:
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> Apparently, she got away with it. Very sad.


do you have a link to an article stating something to that affect?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: SaMiViMa ()
Date: January 11, 2007 09:25PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> SaMiViMa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Apparently, she got away with it. Very sad.
>
> do you have a link to an article stating something
> to that affect?


No article. Just the arrest listing. States she got a ticket for "passing on the right" at the end of October. Kinda hard to do if your in jail I would think.
It's just sad. That's all.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: September 21, 2007 12:06AM


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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Bob James ()
Date: September 21, 2007 06:36AM

Okay, guys, let's drop the black humor. A tragedy has occurred and a child appears to have been murdered--let's wait for the court's ruling. If this woman has a history of child abuse, I hope that others will advise the district attorney. One may surmise that this woman (pictured) has had a hard life and was likely abused herself, not that is any explanation for killing a child.
Attachments:
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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Tia2 ()
Date: September 21, 2007 09:56AM

Are you kidding me? Bob, it seems like you are asking us to show some sympathy or even empathize with this woman....

"An autopsy was performed and, according to Turner, it revealed multiple abrasions and contusions on Crissmis's face, head, neck and torso, plus optic-nerve hemorrhages characteristic of shaken babies.
There was bleeding around the baby's liver, small intestine, diaphragm and pancreas, and one-fourth of the total amount of blood in her body was found in her abdominal cavity. Cause of death was "trauma to the head and torso, caused by multiple blows."


She and her daughter should receive the same kind of beating the 5 day old child received - then they should be locked up for life!

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: September 21, 2007 10:22AM

Tia, do not question the wisdom of Bob James. He has seen "Zeitgeist: The Movie". He understands these things.

Tia2 Wrote:
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> Are you kidding me? Bob, it seems like you are
> asking us to show some sympathy or even empathize
> with this woman...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2007 10:23AM by TheMeeper.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: SaMiViMa ()
Date: September 21, 2007 01:17PM

Hey Momto4, PM me if you read this.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Genevieve ()
Date: September 21, 2007 02:27PM

I bet it was the mother, not the grandmother. I mean who names their child Crissmis Noelle?

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: wtf ()
Date: September 25, 2007 08:58PM

I was discussing this case with some friends of mine. They said that the prosecution can still pursue charges against this woman's daughter despite the deal. Does anyone know, is this true?

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: City Smith ()
Date: October 03, 2007 08:52AM

wtf Wrote:
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> I was discussing this case with some friends of
> mine. They said that the prosecution can still
> pursue charges against this woman's daughter
> despite the deal. Does anyone know, is this true?


I don't think they can go after the daughter. Don't they have to put the deal in writing? And if the grandmother keeps up her end by pleading guilty, they have to keep their's by leaving the daughter alone. Wouldn't it void the deal if they went after the daughter? Even though they'd have an (basically) open and shut case with the daughter putting what she did in writing. I would have a least hoped for aggravated child abuse or something.

Either way, they are both very sick and I hope that that girl never has another kid. Sad thing is, she's still young and probably will. They should both sit and rot in a jail cell. Damn.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Tia2 ()
Date: October 03, 2007 10:46AM

Murder does not have a statute of limitations does it? If it does not, maybe they will send the grandmother to jail and when she finally dies, they will go after the daughter as the agreement will be void, won't it?


In any event, I agree that they both need to be punished to the full extent of the law!

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: October 04, 2007 12:18AM

Tia2 Wrote:
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> Murder does not have a statute of limitations does
> it?


it does not. on another note, you can convict two different people of the same crime.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: McMuffin ()
Date: October 05, 2007 07:29AM

Gravis Wrote:
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> Tia2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Murder does not have a statute of limitations
> does
> > it?
>
> it does not. on another note, you can convict two
> different people of the same crime.


They can't charge the daughter with murder. By both the mother's and grandmother's testimony, the baby was alive when placed in the crib.
That poor little 5 day old. Abused by both of her primary caregivers in the first night home from the hospital. I do hope they find a way to charge the mother. That baby never had a chance.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Tia2 ()
Date: October 05, 2007 09:52AM

McMuffin Wrote:
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> Gravis Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tia2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Murder does not have a statute of limitations
> > does
> > > it?
> >
> > it does not. on another note, you can convict
> two
> > different people of the same crime.
>
>
> They can't charge the daughter with murder.

Why not?

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: McMuffin ()
Date: October 05, 2007 12:24PM

Tia2 Wrote:
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> McMuffin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gravis Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Tia2 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Murder does not have a statute of
> limitations
> > > does
> > > > it?
> > >
> > > it does not. on another note, you can
> convict
> > two
> > > different people of the same crime.
> >
> >
> > They can't charge the daughter with murder.
>
> Why not?

She didn't kill the baby. She may have contributed to her death, but as I said in my next sentence, both grandmother and mother said the baby was not dead when the mother put her back in her crib. Grandmother then says she got up to feed the baby later and that is when grandmother shook the baby.
I agree with someone above who said something about charging the mother with aggravated child abuse or something.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Tia2 ()
Date: October 05, 2007 12:43PM

OK

(2) people stab a man.
When they leave, the man is alive
When his wife comes home, she finds him dead

Is the LAST PERSON who stabbed him the only one charged?

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: McMuffin ()
Date: October 05, 2007 02:07PM

Tia2 Wrote:
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> OK
>
> (2) people stab a man.
> When they leave, the man is alive
> When his wife comes home, she finds him dead
>
> Is the LAST PERSON who stabbed him the only one
> charged?


What you say makes sense. I just figure that getting her for murder would be harder. I think that if I were on the jury, I would not be able to find her guilty because her direct action did not lead to the death. I would hope they'd go for something else because they have a better chance.

Doesn't matter anyway because they have a deal with the grandmother.

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Re: Grandmother Charged in death of infant
Posted by: Momto4 ()
Date: December 20, 2007 08:09PM


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